[05:41] <kanliot> running the QQ daily something seriously wrong with graphics in my vm
[07:50] <noskcaj> i'm considering upgrading to quantal on my main ubuntu machine, could this damage anything?
[14:33] <Worf> Would here be a good place to discuss linux-image-3.5.0-11-generic ? Maybe i'm missing something obvious, but i tried a minimal ubuntu install with debootstrap and with mentioned kernel, and i have all kinds of hardware support issues. Like no mouse device, harddisk devices missing, network card missing, ...
[14:34] <smartboyhw> No.
[14:34] <patdk-wk> you probably want the kernel team
[14:34] <smartboyhw> #ubuntu-kernel
[14:34] <Worf> trying, thanks
[14:44] <smartboyhw> Is balloons on vacation today?
[14:47] <phillw> idk, just installing 10.04.4 as requested to then update to 12.04.1
[14:47] <smartboyhw> ...
[14:51] <njin> phillw, smartboyhw, hallo
[14:52] <smartboyhw> njin: o/
[14:52] <phillw> hiyas njin
[14:55]  * balloons floats
[14:55] <smartboyhw> balloons: I got someone talking about package testing in #ubuntu+1
[14:55] <smartboyhw> Bug 1039518
[14:57] <balloons> ok, looks like a ppc bug
[14:57] <balloons> and he's on lubuntu.. that's good
[14:57] <phillw> balloons: I disagree... it's not good :P
[14:57] <balloons> phillw, lol
[14:57] <smartboyhw> lol
[15:00] <smartboyhw> balloons: What testing are you doing now?:)
[15:00] <balloons> something new
[15:01] <smartboyhw> balloons: What new???:_)
[15:01] <balloons> always new and exciting
[15:01] <balloons> you'll see soon enough..
[15:01] <smartboyhw> balloons: You're not telling me "what" = ?
[15:01] <balloons> I will
[15:02] <smartboyhw> balloons: Would you please tell me using PM?:);)
[15:02] <phillw> I'll go and allocate that bug to the lubuntu team are made aware of it.
[15:02] <balloons> smartboyhw, lol.. you'll find out in a moment
[15:02] <phillw> s/to/so
[15:02] <smartboyhw> ...
[15:02] <smartboyhw> balloons: What do you mean IN A MOMENT?
[15:02] <balloons> phillw, good plan :-)
[15:02] <smartboyhw> Actually, why do you guys use s/../..?
[15:03] <balloons> phillw,  I was saying good he's on lubuntu since there's a ppc contingent of users there
[15:03] <balloons> smartboyhw, s/../../ is shorthand for regex find and replace
[15:03] <davmor2> smartboyhw: man sed
[15:07] <phillw> balloons: he seems to have raised a duplicate... bug 1039518 and bug 1025815
[15:07] <smartboyhw> Uh oh
[15:08] <phillw> I'll mark the latter a dup of the 1st and email the L-QA mailing list so that they're aware.
[15:08] <smartboyhw> I did already
[15:09] <smartboyhw> phillw: E-mail the QA list
[15:09] <smartboyhw> I did the mark duplicate
[15:09] <phillw> I see now, I'll let the L-QA peoplel know of it.
[15:09] <smartboyhw> Thanks
[15:11] <phillw> sent.
[15:18] <phillw> balloons: as ubuntu 10.04.4 update has been tested, do you want me to to do the kubuntu ones?
[15:19] <smartboyhw> phillw: You should, balloons will be super happy
[15:19] <balloons> phillw, I'm sure the kubuntu folks would appreciate that very much!
[15:19] <balloons> the high bug found on ubuntu was for the global menu
[15:19] <smartboyhw> phillw: If you can try to test a Ubuntu Studio 12.04.1 build
[15:19] <balloons> doesn't affect kubuntu
[15:19] <phillw> I'll just zsync up my iso.
[15:19] <smartboyhw> ok
[15:20] <smartboyhw> balloons: Where's my link now:_)
[15:23] <smartboyhw> balloons: Where's my link of the new feature???
[15:26] <phillw> smartboyhw: it takes about 1.5 hours to grab an iso, about 30 mins to install and then however long it is for an update!
[15:26] <smartboyhw> phillw: It takes me 10 minutes to grab an iso, 20 minutes to install, then 30 minutes to update
[15:27] <phillw> the advantages for a fast b/band link!
[15:27] <smartboyhw> phillw: I'm using WiFi
[15:27] <smartboyhw> If I'm on broadband I can download it within 2 minutes
[15:30] <smartboyhw> So, phillw, you're chair again tmr
[15:30] <phillw> indeed :)
[15:38] <balloons> smartboyhw, http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/08/call-for-testing-compiz-unity.html
[15:39] <smartboyhw> Thanks
[15:43] <balloons> smartboyhw, bah
[15:43] <balloons> don't use the listed ppa
[15:44] <balloons> smartboyhw, k fixed
[15:44] <balloons> :-)
[15:45] <smartboyhw> OK
[15:45] <balloons> ppa:timo-jyrinki/prerelease is the proper ppa
[15:51] <smartboyhw> Anyway, balloons, I wonder: Who manages the QA Trackers?
[15:52] <balloons> stgraber has been the primary developer of the site. There are several individuals who help manage the iso tracker, and package tracker
[15:52] <jibel> balloons, does the PPA includes a working version of llvmpipe ?
[15:52] <smartboyhw> Wow wow wow, can I help too? (Kidding, I am new)
[15:53] <jibel> in other words, can I try it on VMs and pandaboards ?
[15:54] <balloons> jibel, yes I believe it does..
[15:54] <balloons> i'm not sure on the pandaboard.. but I was also going to try :-)
[15:54] <balloons> I suppose a vm first makes sense
[15:55] <smartboyhw> Yeah, it's ll'vm'pipe:D
[15:55] <smartboyhw> balloons: See my kidding line?:)
[15:55] <jibel> balloons, thanks. I'll give it a try
[15:56] <balloons> jibel, k let me know how it goes
[15:57] <balloons> I won't be able to try it out rightnow
[15:57] <smartboyhw> I'm always kidding!
[15:57] <balloons> smartboyhw, lol
[15:57] <balloons> getting late eh?
[15:58] <smartboyhw> balloons: I mean the line 15 lines above:D also I'm sleeping soon
[16:02] <smartboyhw> balloons: Why do you choose the nick balloons?:D
[16:04] <balloons> smartboyhw, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twenty-One_Balloons
[16:04] <smartboyhw> Uh..................................................................................
[17:34] <balloons> ok, so am I crazy, or has nautilus always been branded "Files"?
[17:35] <xnox> balloons: "always" = it did appear in quantal and had a page-sread on "OMG! Ubuntu Nautilus has changed!"
[17:36] <xnox> so it's fairly recent
[17:36] <balloons> xnox, ahh.. I missed the zomg! world is ending article
[17:36] <balloons> :-) found a renaming bug though
[17:41] <xnox> balloons: outside of terminal, emacs, thunderbird and browser I don't notice much stuff, if not OMG!Ubuntu.
[17:41] <xnox> balloons: i notice that fontconfig is complaining about <test> in it's directives, but not "Nautilus" -> "Files" rename.
[17:42] <balloons> yes.. I just got hit with fontconfig error again
[17:42] <balloons> and oddly, I noticed the grammar error: Having multiple values in <test> isn't supported and may not works as expected
[17:43] <balloons> works instead of work
[17:43] <xnox> TELL ME ABOUT IT! =)
[17:50] <xnox> is it just me or quantal daily-live cd doesn't boot on amd64 into graphical display at all
[17:50] <xnox> ?
[17:51] <balloons> xnox using what?
[17:51] <xnox> balloons: kvm / libvirt
[17:52] <balloons> xnox, no 3d support
[17:52] <balloons> no desktop
[17:52] <xnox> =))))))))))))) brilliant
[17:52] <xnox> balloons: ubiquity debconf interface hear I come
[17:52] <balloons> xnox, ubiquity should work
[17:52] <balloons> run install ubuntu
[17:53] <balloons> don't run try before installing..
[17:53] <balloons> although, I have no idea if that's loading 3d bits or not.. the installer does not
[17:53] <balloons> I'm testing the llvmpipe right now, starting from an old daily quantal iso.. see if the vm works again'
[17:55] <xnox> balloons: nope. I just get boot up messages on the console and that's it.
[17:55] <xnox> and then it just sits there displaying me those.
[17:56] <balloons> xnox.. then hmm
[17:56]  * balloons wonders if something is more broken
[17:56] <xnox> balloons: 20120821 image
[17:57] <balloons> I haven't zsynced quantal today
[17:57] <balloons> still running through precise
[17:59] <balloons> jibel, I installed the ppa on quantal vm, I'm running unity
[17:59] <balloons> seems to work fine
[18:02] <balloons> ohh yes.. I purged the ppa and went back to default
[18:02] <balloons> yea.. it's definitely a difference :-) -- hah!
[18:05] <phillw> any kubuntu testers about for a bit help with a test case?
[18:23] <phillw> balloons: the 10.04 upgrade for kubuntu is pointing to legacy, which is also pointing to out of date wiki pages, any ideas where I should start? There is a wiki page with the correct information.
[18:24] <balloons> phillw, ping Scottk, riddell, or darkwing..
[18:24] <balloons> hmm none in here
[18:24] <balloons> try #kubuntu-devel
[18:25] <balloons> ahh I see you in there
[18:25] <balloons> shadeslayer can also help
[18:25] <phillw> balloons: it is he who has given me the instructions to get me going :)
[18:26] <balloons> ah-ha
[18:26] <phillw> I can get to 12.04 now, then I can add on the 12.04.1
[18:27] <phillw> 50 minutes to upgrade
[18:28] <phillw> I'll be glad to get these two done for kubuntu, lubuntu does owe them quite a few favours from when lubuntu was still very new and not adopted.
[18:37] <njin> bug 1037515
[19:28] <balloons> njin, ?
[19:28] <balloons> ohh.. lookey there
[19:29] <njin> balloons, is the blocker for the installer
[19:30] <balloons> njin yes very much so
[19:30] <balloons> my guess is the compiz work will fix this
[19:31] <njin> balloons, but the unity test mean to install something or I already have it installed in my quantal fully updated ?
[19:32] <balloons> you need to install from a ppa
[19:32] <balloons> it's unity 6.2, but packaged with a new compiz and new control center
[19:32] <njin> ok, going to install then, thanks
[20:21] <njin> balloons, is disabled the feature to move the window with Alt+right click ??
[20:23] <balloons> njin, whoa
[20:23] <balloons> I didn't even notice
[20:23] <njin> uh, a bug
[20:23] <balloons> oh yes
[20:24] <njin> ok I open a report then
[20:26] <balloons> yea, link it here
[20:26] <balloons> I'll add myself and confirm :-)
[20:28] <njin> balloons, do you know a way to run apport with non original packages (ppa)
[20:29] <balloons> you should be able to in this case njin
[20:29] <balloons> ubuntu-bug unity
[20:29] <balloons> is it not working?
[20:29] <njin> i run ubuntu-bug compiz
[20:29] <njin> :-)
[20:29] <njin> trying
[20:30] <balloons> you can hit 'yes' to report against compiz :-)
[20:30] <balloons> and it works
[20:31] <njin> :-s
[20:44] <njin> one moment there's a bug in the tag and it won't upload
[20:45] <njin> balloons, bug 1039730 ,thanks
[20:46] <balloons> njin, thanks!
[20:47] <balloons> njin did you report in the tracker someplace? it would help in this case I think
[20:48] <njin> I will complete the test then I report it on the tracker
[20:54] <jibel> balloons, can you tell me what you're testing, how, and how it crashes ?
[20:55] <balloons> jibel.. I'm using 32-bit, manual partitioning
[20:56] <balloons> i think it might be the memory bug already mentioned.. I'm not positive
[20:56] <balloons> since it's locking, I can't see the locks, other than the scrolling traceback as it flies by
[20:56] <balloons> *logs
[20:57] <jibel> balloons, desktop 32bit ?
[20:57] <balloons> sorry yes, desktop 32bit
[20:57] <jibel> balloons, how much memory in your VM ?
[20:57] <balloons> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039405 is the bug in question
[20:58] <jibel> balloons, anything like 'page allocation failure' in /var/log/syslog ?
[20:58] <balloons> jibel, checking.. lol yep, it's set to 256mb..
[20:58] <jibel> heh
[20:58] <balloons> odd I've been running all day just fine.. seems 32bit isn't so happy
[20:58] <balloons> I must have shrunk it at some point
[20:59] <balloons> the manual partitioning must put it over the edge
[20:59] <balloons> if you autoinstall it has enough free mem I'm guessing
[20:59] <jibel> balloons, nope with 512MB it crashes on i386
[20:59] <balloons> odd.. it worked for me I thought..
[20:59] <jibel> unless you install directly and not from a live session
[21:00] <balloons> ohh.. well I guess I was doing alt images all day, so :-)
[21:00] <balloons> ok, so gotta finish this install now and then test the recuse for it
[21:00] <jibel> balloons, BTW rescue mode is ok
[21:00] <balloons> ohh.. well then ;-0
[21:00] <njin> oh yes, i remember edubuntu precise with this problem
[21:04] <balloons> well at least i've got a 32bit vm i'll save now as well
[21:06] <njin> ok, see you tomorrow, I go goodnight
[21:06] <jibel> good night njin
[21:10]  * jibel testing ltsp on amd64
[21:12] <balloons> jibel, looks like that's everything then for precise, n'est pas/
[21:12] <balloons> ?
[21:13] <jibel> balloons, I'm re-running tests where there is only 1 result submitted by a non-proven testers
[21:13] <jibel> balloons, just to make sure we didn't miss something
[21:17] <jibel> I'll do a couple of non-english installations too
[21:18] <balloons> is your head spinning yet? :-)
[21:18] <jibel> balloons, on i386 we only have results from victor and he's chinese it'd be nice to test something like spanish or german
[21:19] <balloons> jibel, I'm seeing most of the images have been set as release
[21:19] <balloons> linky?
[21:19] <balloons> I can manage french.. spanish or german would be a stretch
[21:19] <balloons> I did have fun doing an italien install.. but eh, I know the boxes by heart anyway
[21:20] <jibel> balloons, where do you see images set as release ?
[21:21] <balloons> sorry.. vocab, vocab
[21:22] <balloons> jibel, they were marked for a respin I take it
[21:23] <balloons> the point was.. they are missing from the tracker atm :-)
[21:23] <balloons> so I don't see i386 right now
[21:24] <jibel> balloons, you lost me
[21:24] <jibel> balloons, am I on the right page http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds ?
[21:25]  * balloons goes to look @ the pad
[21:25] <balloons> jibel.. wow
[21:25]  * balloons had the "tested" status unchecked on the filters
[21:25] <balloons> so most of the images were "gone" ;-)
[21:26] <jibel> phew :)
[21:26] <balloons> yea..
[21:26] <balloons> so I thought they were releasing or respinning ore something
[21:26] <balloons> I looked in the tracker, got more confused.. checked the pad, and scrollback
[21:26] <balloons> ...
[21:26]  * balloons clicks the tickbox
[21:26] <balloons> hey! everything is back!
[21:26] <jibel> anyway, doing a french install with network and german without network
[21:27] <jibel> balloons, fantastic ! ;)
[21:27] <balloons> ok, clearly I need 5 mins.. I'm going to get some water
[21:47] <jibel> balloons, ltsp on amd64 OK, non-english on i386 OK
[21:47] <jibel> now finishing DVD amd64
[22:15] <phillw> balloons: how is you testing going?
[22:15] <phillw> *your*
[22:17] <balloons> rolling along
[22:19] <balloons> i had to take 5
[22:19] <balloons> see above
[22:19] <balloons> hah
[22:19] <phillw> can you try the 10.04.04 kubuntu AMD64 --> 12.04, it is just failing for me with the system complaining that there are too many errors for it keep logged :'(
[22:19] <balloons> I was spent
[22:19] <balloons> u on real hw or vm?
[22:19] <phillw> I'm about beat now, also. I've tried... amd failed
[22:19] <phillw> VM, VNC that has worked okay in the past.
[22:20] <phillw> I'm using Virtual Machine Manager 0.9.0
[22:21] <phillw> It is what I use on the SII server to hold VM's and test. Not sure what is going wrong :(
[22:22] <phillw> lvm areas set up as usual. The initial install goes in fine. It is the update that crashes and burns.
[22:23] <phillw> *upgrade*, not the initial update.
[22:24] <jibel> phillw, can you file a bug against update-manager and attach the content of /var/log/dist-upgrade ?
[22:24] <jibel> I'll have a look
[22:25] <phillw> jibel yeah, I'll pull the files off, Is an attachment of the whole directory okay?
[22:25] <phillw> as in tar'ed up?
[22:26] <jibel> phillw, it's okay
[22:26] <phillw> okies, let me try get it off the VM :P
[22:36] <jibel> phillw, paste the bug number in the channel once you have it
[22:36] <jibel> bed time for me
[22:36] <jibel> good night everyone
[22:38] <balloons> night jibel
[22:38] <balloons> phillw, still dl'ing the iso
[22:40] <balloons> ugh.. only dvd's?
[22:40] <balloons> I can't do that..