=== catbus3 is now known as catbus-afk [05:41] running the QQ daily something seriously wrong with graphics in my vm [07:50] i'm considering upgrading to quantal on my main ubuntu machine, could this damage anything? === _salem is now known as salem_ === fader_ is now known as fader === smartboyhw_w8 is now known as smartboyhw [14:33] Would here be a good place to discuss linux-image-3.5.0-11-generic ? Maybe i'm missing something obvious, but i tried a minimal ubuntu install with debootstrap and with mentioned kernel, and i have all kinds of hardware support issues. Like no mouse device, harddisk devices missing, network card missing, ... [14:34] No. [14:34] you probably want the kernel team [14:34] #ubuntu-kernel [14:34] trying, thanks [14:44] Is balloons on vacation today? [14:47] idk, just installing 10.04.4 as requested to then update to 12.04.1 [14:47] ... [14:51] phillw, smartboyhw, hallo [14:52] njin: o/ [14:52] hiyas njin [14:55] * balloons floats [14:55] balloons: I got someone talking about package testing in #ubuntu+1 [14:55] Bug 1039518 [14:55] Launchpad bug 1039518 in gecko-mediaplayer (Ubuntu) "gecko-mplayer / gnome-mplayer 1.0.6 do not work on ppc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039518 [14:57] ok, looks like a ppc bug [14:57] and he's on lubuntu.. that's good [14:57] balloons: I disagree... it's not good :P [14:57] phillw, lol [14:57] lol [15:00] balloons: What testing are you doing now?:) [15:00] something new [15:01] balloons: What new???:_) [15:01] always new and exciting [15:01] you'll see soon enough.. [15:01] balloons: You're not telling me "what" = ? [15:01] I will [15:02] balloons: Would you please tell me using PM?:);) [15:02] I'll go and allocate that bug to the lubuntu team are made aware of it. [15:02] smartboyhw, lol.. you'll find out in a moment [15:02] s/to/so [15:02] ... [15:02] balloons: What do you mean IN A MOMENT? [15:02] phillw, good plan :-) [15:02] Actually, why do you guys use s/../..? [15:03] phillw, I was saying good he's on lubuntu since there's a ppc contingent of users there [15:03] smartboyhw, s/../../ is shorthand for regex find and replace [15:03] smartboyhw: man sed [15:07] balloons: he seems to have raised a duplicate... bug 1039518 and bug 1025815 [15:07] Launchpad bug 1039518 in gecko-mediaplayer (Ubuntu) "gecko-mplayer / gnome-mplayer 1.0.6 do not work on ppc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039518 [15:07] Launchpad bug 1025815 in gecko-mediaplayer (Ubuntu) "gecko package for ppc is broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1025815 [15:07] Uh oh [15:08] I'll mark the latter a dup of the 1st and email the L-QA mailing list so that they're aware. [15:08] I did already [15:09] phillw: E-mail the QA list [15:09] I did the mark duplicate [15:09] I see now, I'll let the L-QA peoplel know of it. [15:09] Thanks [15:11] sent. [15:18] balloons: as ubuntu 10.04.4 update has been tested, do you want me to to do the kubuntu ones? [15:19] phillw: You should, balloons will be super happy [15:19] phillw, I'm sure the kubuntu folks would appreciate that very much! [15:19] the high bug found on ubuntu was for the global menu [15:19] phillw: If you can try to test a Ubuntu Studio 12.04.1 build [15:19] doesn't affect kubuntu [15:19] I'll just zsync up my iso. [15:19] ok [15:20] balloons: Where's my link now:_) [15:23] balloons: Where's my link of the new feature??? [15:26] smartboyhw: it takes about 1.5 hours to grab an iso, about 30 mins to install and then however long it is for an update! [15:26] phillw: It takes me 10 minutes to grab an iso, 20 minutes to install, then 30 minutes to update [15:27] the advantages for a fast b/band link! [15:27] phillw: I'm using WiFi [15:27] If I'm on broadband I can download it within 2 minutes [15:30] So, phillw, you're chair again tmr [15:30] indeed :) [15:38] smartboyhw, http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/08/call-for-testing-compiz-unity.html [15:39] Thanks [15:43] smartboyhw, bah [15:43] don't use the listed ppa [15:44] smartboyhw, k fixed [15:44] :-) [15:45] OK [15:45] ppa:timo-jyrinki/prerelease is the proper ppa [15:51] Anyway, balloons, I wonder: Who manages the QA Trackers? [15:52] stgraber has been the primary developer of the site. There are several individuals who help manage the iso tracker, and package tracker [15:52] balloons, does the PPA includes a working version of llvmpipe ? [15:52] Wow wow wow, can I help too? (Kidding, I am new) [15:53] in other words, can I try it on VMs and pandaboards ? [15:54] jibel, yes I believe it does.. [15:54] i'm not sure on the pandaboard.. but I was also going to try :-) [15:54] I suppose a vm first makes sense [15:55] Yeah, it's ll'vm'pipe:D [15:55] balloons: See my kidding line?:) [15:55] balloons, thanks. I'll give it a try [15:56] jibel, k let me know how it goes [15:57] I won't be able to try it out rightnow [15:57] I'm always kidding! [15:57] smartboyhw, lol [15:57] getting late eh? [15:58] balloons: I mean the line 15 lines above:D also I'm sleeping soon [16:02] balloons: Why do you choose the nick balloons?:D [16:04] smartboyhw, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Twenty-One_Balloons [16:04] Uh.................................................................................. [17:34] ok, so am I crazy, or has nautilus always been branded "Files"? [17:35] balloons: "always" = it did appear in quantal and had a page-sread on "OMG! Ubuntu Nautilus has changed!" [17:36] so it's fairly recent [17:36] xnox, ahh.. I missed the zomg! world is ending article [17:36] :-) found a renaming bug though [17:41] balloons: outside of terminal, emacs, thunderbird and browser I don't notice much stuff, if not OMG!Ubuntu. [17:41] balloons: i notice that fontconfig is complaining about in it's directives, but not "Nautilus" -> "Files" rename. [17:42] yes.. I just got hit with fontconfig error again [17:42] and oddly, I noticed the grammar error: Having multiple values in isn't supported and may not works as expected [17:43] works instead of work [17:43] TELL ME ABOUT IT! =) [17:50] is it just me or quantal daily-live cd doesn't boot on amd64 into graphical display at all [17:50] ? [17:51] xnox using what? [17:51] balloons: kvm / libvirt [17:52] xnox, no 3d support [17:52] no desktop [17:52] =))))))))))))) brilliant [17:52] balloons: ubiquity debconf interface hear I come [17:52] xnox, ubiquity should work [17:52] run install ubuntu [17:53] don't run try before installing.. [17:53] although, I have no idea if that's loading 3d bits or not.. the installer does not [17:53] I'm testing the llvmpipe right now, starting from an old daily quantal iso.. see if the vm works again' [17:55] balloons: nope. I just get boot up messages on the console and that's it. [17:55] and then it just sits there displaying me those. [17:56] xnox.. then hmm [17:56] * balloons wonders if something is more broken [17:56] balloons: 20120821 image [17:57] I haven't zsynced quantal today [17:57] still running through precise [17:59] jibel, I installed the ppa on quantal vm, I'm running unity [17:59] seems to work fine [18:02] ohh yes.. I purged the ppa and went back to default [18:02] yea.. it's definitely a difference :-) -- hah! [18:05] any kubuntu testers about for a bit help with a test case? [18:23] balloons: the 10.04 upgrade for kubuntu is pointing to legacy, which is also pointing to out of date wiki pages, any ideas where I should start? There is a wiki page with the correct information. [18:24] phillw, ping Scottk, riddell, or darkwing.. [18:24] hmm none in here [18:24] try #kubuntu-devel [18:25] ahh I see you in there [18:25] shadeslayer can also help [18:25] balloons: it is he who has given me the instructions to get me going :) [18:26] ah-ha [18:26] I can get to 12.04 now, then I can add on the 12.04.1 [18:27] 50 minutes to upgrade [18:28] I'll be glad to get these two done for kubuntu, lubuntu does owe them quite a few favours from when lubuntu was still very new and not adopted. [18:37] bug 1037515 [18:37] Launchpad bug 1037515 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity-dm crashed with MissingProgramError in run(): No window manager found (tried metacity, xfwm4, matchbox-window-manager, openbox-lubuntu, openbox)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1037515 [19:28] njin, ? [19:28] ohh.. lookey there [19:29] balloons, is the blocker for the installer [19:30] njin yes very much so [19:30] my guess is the compiz work will fix this [19:31] balloons, but the unity test mean to install something or I already have it installed in my quantal fully updated ? [19:32] you need to install from a ppa [19:32] it's unity 6.2, but packaged with a new compiz and new control center [19:32] ok, going to install then, thanks [20:21] balloons, is disabled the feature to move the window with Alt+right click ?? [20:23] njin, whoa [20:23] I didn't even notice [20:23] uh, a bug [20:23] oh yes [20:24] ok I open a report then [20:26] yea, link it here [20:26] I'll add myself and confirm :-) [20:28] balloons, do you know a way to run apport with non original packages (ppa) [20:29] you should be able to in this case njin [20:29] ubuntu-bug unity [20:29] is it not working? [20:29] i run ubuntu-bug compiz [20:29] :-) [20:29] trying [20:30] you can hit 'yes' to report against compiz :-) [20:30] and it works [20:31] :-s [20:44] one moment there's a bug in the tag and it won't upload [20:45] balloons, bug 1039730 ,thanks [20:46] Launchpad bug 1039730 in Unity "Cannot move window with Alt+Right click" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039730 [20:46] njin, thanks! [20:47] njin did you report in the tracker someplace? it would help in this case I think [20:48] I will complete the test then I report it on the tracker [20:54] balloons, can you tell me what you're testing, how, and how it crashes ? [20:55] jibel.. I'm using 32-bit, manual partitioning [20:56] i think it might be the memory bug already mentioned.. I'm not positive [20:56] since it's locking, I can't see the locks, other than the scrolling traceback as it flies by [20:56] *logs [20:57] balloons, desktop 32bit ? [20:57] sorry yes, desktop 32bit [20:57] balloons, how much memory in your VM ? [20:57] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1039405 is the bug in question [20:57] Ubuntu bug 1039405 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Precise) "Lockups when running vm's with 768MB of memory" [Undecided,New] [20:58] balloons, anything like 'page allocation failure' in /var/log/syslog ? [20:58] jibel, checking.. lol yep, it's set to 256mb.. [20:58] heh [20:58] odd I've been running all day just fine.. seems 32bit isn't so happy [20:58] I must have shrunk it at some point [20:59] the manual partitioning must put it over the edge [20:59] if you autoinstall it has enough free mem I'm guessing [20:59] balloons, nope with 512MB it crashes on i386 [20:59] odd.. it worked for me I thought.. [20:59] unless you install directly and not from a live session [21:00] ohh.. well I guess I was doing alt images all day, so :-) [21:00] ok, so gotta finish this install now and then test the recuse for it [21:00] balloons, BTW rescue mode is ok [21:00] ohh.. well then ;-0 [21:00] oh yes, i remember edubuntu precise with this problem [21:04] well at least i've got a 32bit vm i'll save now as well [21:06] ok, see you tomorrow, I go goodnight [21:06] good night njin [21:10] * jibel testing ltsp on amd64 [21:12] jibel, looks like that's everything then for precise, n'est pas/ [21:12] ? [21:13] balloons, I'm re-running tests where there is only 1 result submitted by a non-proven testers [21:13] balloons, just to make sure we didn't miss something [21:17] I'll do a couple of non-english installations too [21:18] is your head spinning yet? :-) [21:18] balloons, on i386 we only have results from victor and he's chinese it'd be nice to test something like spanish or german [21:19] jibel, I'm seeing most of the images have been set as release [21:19] linky? [21:19] I can manage french.. spanish or german would be a stretch [21:19] I did have fun doing an italien install.. but eh, I know the boxes by heart anyway [21:20] balloons, where do you see images set as release ? [21:21] sorry.. vocab, vocab [21:22] jibel, they were marked for a respin I take it [21:23] the point was.. they are missing from the tracker atm :-) [21:23] so I don't see i386 right now [21:24] balloons, you lost me [21:24] balloons, am I on the right page http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/230/builds ? [21:25] * balloons goes to look @ the pad [21:25] jibel.. wow [21:25] * balloons had the "tested" status unchecked on the filters [21:25] so most of the images were "gone" ;-) [21:26] phew :) [21:26] yea.. [21:26] so I thought they were releasing or respinning ore something [21:26] I looked in the tracker, got more confused.. checked the pad, and scrollback [21:26] ... [21:26] * balloons clicks the tickbox [21:26] hey! everything is back! [21:26] anyway, doing a french install with network and german without network [21:27] balloons, fantastic ! ;) [21:27] ok, clearly I need 5 mins.. I'm going to get some water === salem_ is now known as _salem [21:47] balloons, ltsp on amd64 OK, non-english on i386 OK [21:47] now finishing DVD amd64 === Ursinha` is now known as Ursinha === jibel_ is now known as jibel [22:15] balloons: how is you testing going? [22:15] *your* [22:17] rolling along [22:19] i had to take 5 [22:19] see above [22:19] hah [22:19] can you try the 10.04.04 kubuntu AMD64 --> 12.04, it is just failing for me with the system complaining that there are too many errors for it keep logged :'( [22:19] I was spent [22:19] u on real hw or vm? [22:19] I'm about beat now, also. I've tried... amd failed [22:19] VM, VNC that has worked okay in the past. [22:20] I'm using Virtual Machine Manager 0.9.0 [22:21] It is what I use on the SII server to hold VM's and test. Not sure what is going wrong :( [22:22] lvm areas set up as usual. The initial install goes in fine. It is the update that crashes and burns. [22:23] *upgrade*, not the initial update. [22:24] phillw, can you file a bug against update-manager and attach the content of /var/log/dist-upgrade ? [22:24] I'll have a look [22:25] jibel yeah, I'll pull the files off, Is an attachment of the whole directory okay? [22:25] as in tar'ed up? [22:26] phillw, it's okay [22:26] okies, let me try get it off the VM :P [22:36] phillw, paste the bug number in the channel once you have it [22:36] bed time for me [22:36] good night everyone [22:38] night jibel [22:38] phillw, still dl'ing the iso [22:40] ugh.. only dvd's? [22:40] I can't do that..