| mejo | hi | 07:21 |
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| mejo | does unity2d support the feature to scale windows by dragging them to the desktop borders? | 07:35 |
| mejo | in unity3d this feature can be configured through compiz, but unity2d doesn't use compiz. | 07:35 |
| sil2100 | mejo: hi, sadly, unity-2d didn't yet support this feature | 07:36 |
| sil2100 | So it's not possible to configure it in any way I'm afraid | 07:36 |
| mejo | bummer! | 07:37 |
| mejo | thanks for your help anyway. it's much appreciated | 07:38 |
| duflu | mejo, sil2100: That's a compiz feature. So you can have it in Unity2D if you start plain compiz. | 07:39 |
| mejo | duflu: thanks. | 07:45 |
| mejo | is it ok to ask here for hardware support questions? I'm searching for a graphics board where open source drivers support dual-head unity3d with high resolution out of the box. | 07:45 |
| duflu | mejo: AFAIK, any modern Intel, Nvidia or ATI/AMD chip will work. | 07:46 |
| mejo | I'm wondering whether this is possible with the ati radeon hd 6450 and open source radeon driver. | 07:47 |
| duflu | mejo: However, I personally recommend the drivers in this order: intel, radeon, nvidia, fglrx, nouveau | 07:47 |
| mejo | duflu: thanks. currently I use a rather oldish radeon x1550, and only very low resolution was supported with radeon driver and unity3d in dual-head mode. thus I was forced to switch to unity2d. and performance is really bad. response times are usually very high. | 07:48 |
| mejo | duflu: unfortunately intel graphics are only available as part of the cpus, right? or do pcie graphics boards with intel chips exist? | 07:49 |
| duflu | mejo: I have not tested multimonitor with radeon for a long time so can't comment. But radeon with a single 1920x1200 is excellent (HD 5450 I think) | 07:49 |
| duflu | mejo: Yes, Intel is only with CPUs | 07:49 |
| duflu | mejo: And performance, especially multimonitor, will get a serious boost when compiz 0.9.8.0 is officially released for 12.10 | 07:50 |
| mejo | thanks, that's an important hint | 07:52 |
| sil2100_ | andyrock: hi! | 08:36 |
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| andyrock | sil2100_, hey | 08:36 |
| sil2100 | andyrock: I'm just looking at bug #1035951 on precise | 08:36 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1035951 in unity (Ubuntu Precise) "[Regression] Hideous low-res icon when using the HUD with autohide enabled." [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1035951 | 08:36 |
| sil2100 | And I can't really reproduce it there on precise unity | 08:37 |
| sil2100 | andyrock: are there some specific steps on getting it reproducible? | 08:37 |
| sil2100 | andyrock: I enabled auto-hide and the HUD icons look good | 08:37 |
| andyrock | sil2100, which graphic card? | 08:38 |
| sil2100 | andyrock: nvidia | 08:38 |
| duflu | sil2100: Try setting an odd launcher icon size | 08:38 |
| andyrock | duflu, sil2100 with 48 I can see that problem | 08:38 |
| duflu | Hmm, that's not very odd | 08:39 |
| andyrock | duflu, the probelm was the we were passing to IconRender | 08:39 |
| andyrock | width: x | 08:39 |
| andyrock | and | 08:39 |
| andyrock | height: x+1 | 08:39 |
| duflu | andyrock: Yeah I saw your code | 08:39 |
| duflu | andyrock: Still, are we using nearest filtering there? It should be linear filtering surely... | 08:40 |
| andyrock | duflu, i'm quite sure there is an if condition to select the filtering | 08:40 |
| andyrock | most of time we use nearest | 08:40 |
| andyrock | i tried to force linear filtering passing the wrong width and height | 08:42 |
| duflu | andyrock: In the dash it looks like we're using linear. I can't think why you'd use nearest on the launcher... | 08:42 |
| andyrock | and the icon looked much better | 08:42 |
| duflu | Yes, it will :) | 08:43 |
| andyrock | duflu, ask Jason :) | 08:43 |
| sil2100 | Well, still can't really reproduce it here ;) Is it intel specific? | 08:43 |
| sil2100 | Since even with odd sized icons, they still look good to me | 08:43 |
| andyrock | sil2100, shame on you! you cannot reproduce a bug :P | 08:45 |
| sil2100 | :< | 08:45 |
| sil2100 | Someone else needs to review this one I'm afraid | 08:45 |
| andyrock | sil2100, i can make a ppa and ask the bug reporter to "review" it | 08:46 |
| sil2100 | popey: hi! | 08:47 |
| sil2100 | popey: can you fire up your precise machine for a moment ;) ? | 08:47 |
| popey | I'm on precise now | 08:48 |
| popey | we talking dogfooding or vm testing? | 08:48 |
| sil2100 | popey: awesome - I just need you to reproduce a bug | 08:48 |
| sil2100 | ;) | 08:48 |
| popey | ok | 08:48 |
| sil2100 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1035951 | 08:48 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1035951 in unity (Ubuntu Precise) "[Regression] Hideous low-res icon when using the HUD with autohide enabled." [Medium,In progress] | 08:48 |
| popey | nice description | 08:48 |
| popey | i like the word "hideous" in bugs | 08:48 |
| sil2100 | hehe | 08:48 |
| popey | it only happens if you have the launcher above 32px | 08:50 |
| popey | i.e. it doesn't happen if you do have the launcher at 32px | 08:50 |
| OwaisL_ | Hey | 08:50 |
| OwaisL_ | Is unity from staging working right now? It segfaults for me http://paste.ubuntu.com/1158636/ | 08:50 |
| sil2100 | I was changing the size to 37 and I still had a nice icon | 08:51 |
| popey | hmm, yeah, 38 is okay | 08:51 |
| sil2100 | OwaisL_: on quantal? | 08:51 |
| OwaisL_ | sil2100, yep | 08:51 |
| popey | sil2100, yeah, gets worse from about 48 up | 08:51 |
| popey | and 48 being the default, i guess that's why it's noticed | 08:52 |
| sil2100 | OwaisL_: didn't try upgrading today, but yesterday it was fine | 08:52 |
| sil2100 | popey: well, I couldn't reproduce it - but if you can, can I send you some really hacked up packages to check if it helps? | 08:52 |
| popey | sure thing | 08:52 |
| sil2100 | popey: they're made so that they're easily removable, i.e. the version number is lower than the current version | 08:53 |
| OwaisL_ | hmm, I had the same problem yesterday. Stuck with gnome-shell :( | 08:53 |
| popey | sil2100, only affects some apps | 08:53 |
| popey | e.g. xchat | 08:53 |
| sil2100 | OwaisL_: hm, it seems to crash in a very strange place | 08:53 |
| sil2100 | popey: priv | 08:56 |
| popey | got it! | 08:56 |
| andyrock | sil2100, popey, firefox and chromium icons should have this problem too | 08:59 |
| popey | ah i see it in ff too | 09:01 |
| * popey reboots to test new packages | 09:01 | |
| sil2100 | Ok, officially 5.0 is broken it seems | 09:04 |
| sil2100 | It seems CMake is failing on "Schema validation error" every time | 09:05 |
| sil2100 | Because of the usage of the deprecated /desktop/ path in schemas? | 09:05 |
| popey | sil2100, yeah, that package seems better | 09:06 |
| sil2100 | popey: \o/ | 09:06 |
| sil2100 | Now we just need to fix the 5.0 trunk again | 09:08 |
| sil2100 | Strange thing | 09:15 |
| sil2100 | mmrazik: hi! The 5.0 builder and merger runs on quantal? | 09:16 |
| mmrazik | sil2100: good question. let me check. | 09:16 |
| sil2100 | mmrazik: since I noticed all merges in the unity/5.0 branch started failing due to a warning from glib-compile-schemas - which, what I see, only happens on quantal, on my precise chroot (and precise glib-compile-schemas) this does not | 09:17 |
| mmrazik | sil2100: seems to be some quantal/precise mix :-/ | 09:19 |
| sil2100 | Since I'm not sure if changing the paths from /desktop/ to others right now is a good idea | 09:20 |
| sil2100 | hm, so I need to find a way to silence this | 09:20 |
| mmrazik | sil2100: the builds are failing because of it? | 09:20 |
| sil2100 | mmrazik: yes, all merges fail because of this | 09:21 |
| mmrazik | uh oh.. this sucks. | 09:21 |
| sil2100 | i.e. https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/automerge-unity/1058/console | 09:21 |
| sil2100 | Because CMake does a schema validation during setup | 09:21 |
| mmrazik | sil2100: I would prefer move it (SRU branch) from the unity-merger VM to our new setup in jenkins rather than fixing it there | 09:22 |
| mmrazik | the setup there is IMO not really designed in a way to support this easily | 09:22 |
| mmrazik | it probably could be fixed but I'm not too keen to dig into that code | 09:22 |
| sil2100 | mmrazik: no problem, I understand that - but I'm sure a switch to the new setup would take some time, right? | 09:23 |
| mmrazik | yep | 09:23 |
| sil2100 | For now I'll try to fix it up some other way | 09:23 |
| mmrazik | ok | 09:23 |
| sil2100 | mmrazik: just to be sure - there's no easy way of forcing the meerger to use the precise version of libglib2.0-bin during building? | 09:32 |
| mmrazik | sil2100: nothing comes to my mind right now | 09:34 |
| mmrazik | let me check something | 09:34 |
| mmrazik | sil2100: I would like to go for lunch | 09:37 |
| mmrazik | sil2100: I can change it now and potentially break everything | 09:37 |
| mmrazik | sil2100: and you won't be able to fix it | 09:37 |
| mmrazik | sil2100: or I can try to do it after lunch | 09:37 |
| sil2100 | mmrazik: no problem, bon apetit! Since I still have some ideas of my own ;) | 09:38 |
| mmrazik | sil2100: I'll ping you once I'm back | 09:38 |
| mmrazik | it shouldn't be that hard actually | 09:38 |
| sil2100 | mmrazik: I have an ugly hack for this if anything, but I would prefer using it as a last resort | 09:47 |
| mmrazik | sil2100: I'm back. Is there a MP I can approve to test things? | 10:27 |
| sil2100 | mmrazik: yes, one moment | 10:27 |
| sil2100 | mmrazik: https://code.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/fix-lp-998752-stable/+merge/119486 <- for instance this one is safe | 10:27 |
| sil2100 | Oh, wait | 10:28 |
| sil2100 | It just got merged o_O | 10:28 |
| mmrazik | yes ;) | 10:28 |
| sil2100 | Did you fix something? | 10:28 |
| sil2100 | :) | 10:28 |
| sil2100 | Since I tried merging it like 30 minutes ago, I thought it will fail | 10:29 |
| sil2100 | (again) | 10:29 |
| mmrazik | sil2100: I was eating my lunch. I didn't touch anything. | 10:29 |
| mmrazik | weird | 10:29 |
| sil2100 | Ok, so hm, let's try another one that recently failed | 10:30 |
| sil2100 | https://code.launchpad.net/~brandontschaefer/unity/detail-mode-last-active-window-fix-SRU/+merge/119763 ? | 10:30 |
| mmrazik | sil2100: the real problem is actually the -proposed part | 10:30 |
| mmrazik | it is building on precise with the quantal-proposed | 10:30 |
| mmrazik | which might bring stuff in | 10:30 |
| mmrazik | let me try to fix/approve | 10:30 |
| sil2100 | Ok, thanks! | 10:30 |
| mmrazik | sil2100: will take a while. I can not really control what the unity-merger box picks up and right now its building some quantal branch. | 10:36 |
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| sil2100 | mmrazik: ok, thanks :) | 11:09 |
| Andy80 | hi | 11:44 |
| Andy80 | what is lightdm-qt used for? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~lightdm-team/lightdm/trunk/files/head:/liblightdm-qt/ was it used for Unity-2D or is it part of LightDM anyway? | 11:45 |
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| sil2100 | Trevinho: hi! | 12:40 |
| marco | I see that https://code.launchpad.net/~vanvugt/compiz/fix-1021104/+merge/115466 was committed, bu I still experience bug #1021104 on my Quantal vm. Will the fix come in a later compiz release? | 13:08 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1021104 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Severe damage artefacts and flickering when using LLVMpipe" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1021104 | 13:08 |
| c10ud | marco, wait for "Fix Released" | 13:09 |
| marco | c10ud: Thanks! Any estimate on when this will happen or a next version will be released? | 13:10 |
| c10ud | marco, no idea, I'm not in the team, but considering quantal is under heavy development i guess soon | 13:10 |
| marco | nice to know that. Thanks! | 13:11 |
| seb128 | marco, in the next week or so | 13:27 |
| sil2100 | Mirv: the packages you prepared, do they include the revision with the above fix? ^ | 13:29 |
| marco | seb128: Thanks! Nice to know that. | 13:29 |
| Mirv | sil2100: yes | 13:33 |
| Mirv | and the current PPA to test would be https://launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/+archive/prerelease since that doesn't include unity snapshot but instead only compiz snapshot plus unity 6.2 branch | 13:33 |
| Mirv | for anyone wanting to test latest compiz developments + gsettings migration | 13:33 |
| sil2100 | Test on your own responsibility though! | 13:34 |
| Mirv | of course :) | 13:34 |
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| sil2100 | Trevinho: piiing | 14:34 |
| dadolino | hi to | 14:42 |
| dadolino | all | 14:42 |
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| sil2100 | Hello | 14:58 |
| dadolino | how are you | 15:00 |
| dadolino | I need help i use | 15:00 |
| dadolino | ubuntu 12.10 | 15:00 |
| dadolino | and chrome brows | 15:00 |
| dadolino | how I can protect my self from wisiting wrong web sites | 15:00 |
| dadolino | and that | 15:00 |
| balloons | Mirv, sil2100, popey et la; The call for testing your compiz and gsettings changes is out: http://www.theorangenotebook.com/2012/08/call-for-testing-compiz-unity.html | 15:42 |
| balloons | omer, also note I added your request for the multi-monitor bug triaging :-) | 15:42 |
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| om26er | balloons, hey just read, thanks :-) | 16:43 |
| om26er | bschaefer, hey! | 16:43 |
| bschaefer | om26er, hello! | 16:44 |
| om26er | bschaefer, could you please approve this https://code.launchpad.net/~om26er/unity/test_alt_arrowkeys/+merge/120255 | 16:44 |
| bschaefer | om26er, yes I can | 16:44 |
| om26er | i removed the / so its all good now | 16:44 |
| bschaefer | om26er, did the actual fix already land? | 16:45 |
| om26er | bschaefer, no, it didn't ofcourse, but you can land it now :-) | 16:46 |
| bschaefer | bschaefer, well it looks like it's just an AP test | 16:46 |
| bschaefer | om26er, ^ | 16:46 |
| bschaefer | geez im tired | 16:46 |
| * bschaefer was wondering why it's just an AP test | 16:47 | |
| om26er | bschaefer, hah yes it just a manual-test -> Autopilot conversion ;-) | 16:47 |
| bschaefer | om26er, oo ok :), I was thinking you had a manual test and thomi forced you to do a AP test :) | 16:48 |
| sil2100 | Mirv: ^ | 16:49 |
| bschaefer | om26er, cool, approved :) | 16:52 |
| om26er | bschaefer, awesome, thanks :-) | 16:53 |
| bschaefer | om26er, np! | 16:53 |
| nmarques | anyone that can help me with the PointBarrier patches on Xorg required for Unity? | 16:55 |
| bschaefer | nmarques, hmm I have't seen that in a long time...I think you need libxfixes or something like that... | 16:56 |
| bschaefer | nmarques, IIRC libxfixes-dev | 16:56 |
| bschaefer | but im not 100% | 16:56 |
| nmarques | bschaefer, yeap, that's one side | 17:07 |
| nmarques | bschaefer, but for what I've seen there's also patching involved on xorg-x11-server and on xorg-x11-proto | 17:07 |
| nmarques | I need to gather all this info so I can contact Stephan Dirscher (Xorg maintainer on SUSE) so he can analyze and see if we can include it | 17:07 |
| nmarques | he's really a cool guy and he is very flexible with patches, so as long as I know exactly what is involved to pass him, we should be ok with those patches :) | 17:08 |
| bschaefer | nmarques, hmm well im unsure past that then sadly :(. Its been a while since I saw that problem | 17:09 |
| nmarques | bschaefer, well 6.2.0 doesn't build without those patches :) anyway you know who maintains xorg on ubuntu so I can mail him ? | 17:11 |
| nmarques | bschaefer, or should I risk on unity devel mailing list or equivalent ? | 17:12 |
| bschaefer | nmarques, hmm not off the top of my head, #ubuntu-desktop would be a good place to ask a few hours ago | 17:12 |
| bschaefer | but I would think that mailing list would help | 17:12 |
| nmarques | bschaefer, thx :) | 17:18 |
| nmarques | bschaefer, for the rest I have most of the stuff properly built and updated, so once this is fixed, it's a few days for integration and hopefully we're fine :) | 17:18 |
| bschaefer | nmarques, np, and awesome :) | 17:19 |
| bschaefer | wish I could have been more helpful haha | 17:19 |
| nmarques | bschaefer, you were trust me :) about the utouch stack the other day and nux | 17:22 |
| bschaefer | nmarques, well awesome then | 17:23 |
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| bobweaver | Hello there I want to package up NUX within unity is this possible ? | 17:28 |
| bobweaver | so I can take it out of the cmakelist.txt as a depends | 17:29 |
| bobweaver | Ok where to go to get *good* documention on how to NUX works and how I can make Unity and NUX into one package | 17:34 |
| bobweaver | seems like it is just C++ libs | 17:34 |
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| semitones | Hello unity developers | 20:01 |
| semitones | I'd like to find out what processes are delaying login time (from lightDM to usable desktop) -- I'm not familiar with the different logs that might help me. What logs or resources would help? | 20:02 |
| popey | semitones, maybe run bootchart? | 20:09 |
| semitones | popey -- I have bootchart logs, but they don't give very much detail about errors, etc. | 20:09 |
| popey | how long does it take to get from lightdm to usable desktop? | 20:10 |
| semitones | i've timed it between 15 and 20 seconds | 20:11 |
| semitones | if you'd like to see a bootchart: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootCharting?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=Phixtop-linux-precise-20120719-1.png | 20:11 |
| semitones | I wish there were a guide to reading these | 20:13 |
| popey | so you logged in after about 50s? | 20:14 |
| popey | that looks to be where you typed your password | 20:14 |
| semitones | how can you tell? that looks about right -- there's a lull in cpu activity | 20:17 |
| popey | you can see where gnome-session starts | 20:17 |
| popey | that happens after you login | 20:18 |
| popey | you see unity greeter before that, that's the login screen | 20:18 |
| semitones | ok -- it looks like gnome-settings is using a bit of cpu -- maybe something is misconfigured there... | 20:18 |
| popey | doesn't look like it to me | 20:19 |
| popey | do you have some usb sticks or devices attached? | 20:19 |
| semitones | usually not | 20:19 |
| semitones | practically never while i log in | 20:20 |
| popey | how much ram does it have? | 20:20 |
| semitones | 4 gb | 20:20 |
| popey | there's quite a lot of IO there | 20:20 |
| semitones | it looks like dconf-service is using a lot of disk | 20:21 |
| popey | check_new_release takes a long while | 20:21 |
| semitones | i wouldn't be surprised if the hard disk is half-worn out by now | 20:21 |
| semitones | hmm i don't even see that | 20:25 |
| bobweaver | davidcalle, I am trying out what is on the staging ppa and all I got to say is Great Job both you and Micheal (and other) | 21:18 |
| bobweaver | I wish I would have know that you all where doing this I know vala | 21:19 |
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| semitones | does~/ .gconf regenerate if I delete it? I'm trying to restore default gconf settings | 22:11 |
| Ikey | better to log out first, and remove the .gnome2 directory too | 22:12 |
| Ikey | do it from a tty maybe | 22:13 |
| semitones | does .gnome2 contain anything important | 22:14 |
| semitones | i'm backing up regardless | 22:15 |
| soliloquy1 | I'd like to run Unity on top of my Xubuntu desktop to get a global menu, but I would not like to use the launcher or the rest of Unity. I have successfully run the entire Unity plugin on top of my Xfce desktop (I use compiz anyway), but is there a way to disable all of the other features of Unity *besides* the global menu? Thanks so much. | 22:29 |
| semitones | Sweet! I deleted .gnome2, .gconf, and .gconfd, and my login time has gone from 15 seconds to 3 seconds. Woot! Huge Success!!! | 22:50 |
| Ikey | :D | 22:52 |
| Ikey | sorry for not replying got way distracted | 22:52 |
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