| nathwill | night folks. off to find some blackberries for pickin' | 01:00 |
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| blkperl | tgm4883: you mean that ppa thats no longer maintained? | 02:28 |
| tgm4883 | blkperl, no, in the official repos | 02:45 |
| tgm4883 | its old | 02:45 |
| bkerensa | tgm4883: Maybe whoever maintained it got busy? | 06:03 |
| bkerensa | Im sure they would sponsor a upload if you wanna update the package :) | 06:04 |
| philballew | you could switch to chrome if you just want an easy fix | 06:44 |
| tgm4883 | bkerensa, I'm just wondering why we don't/can't do syncs from debian for it? | 14:06 |
| tgm4883 | since debian has more recent versions | 14:06 |
| nathwill | tgm4883, you're referring to chromium still? | 16:18 |
| tgm4883 | nathwill, yes | 16:19 |
| tgm4883 | nathwill, well, chromium-browser | 16:19 |
| nathwill | right | 16:19 |
| MaskilPDX | Morning all | 16:20 |
| nathwill | so i think part of the issue with chromium has been the super-rapid pace of development, that's not really a good fit for the typical software inclusion process | 16:20 |
| tgm4883 | morning | 16:20 |
| tgm4883 | nathwill, please see FireFox | 16:20 |
| nathwill | tgm4883, yeah, i totally agree | 16:20 |
| nathwill | just commenting on the reasoning for the current state | 16:20 |
| nathwill | tgm4883, there should really be targeted "high use" applications that have their own delivery channel that you can turn on in the software center ("Prefer current to stable?") | 16:21 |
| nathwill | i'd include ff, chromium, thunderbird, gimp, etc | 16:22 |
| tgm4883 | nathwill, I agree, although there kinda is now | 16:22 |
| tgm4883 | extras allows updates to the released version | 16:22 |
| nathwill | hrm | 16:22 |
| tgm4883 | stuff has to go in /opt | 16:23 |
| tgm4883 | not sure the other requirements | 16:23 |
| nathwill | yeah that's a terrible place to install things | 16:23 |
| tgm4883 | but that is what things submitted to developer.ubuntu.com go in | 16:23 |
| nathwill | yep. doesn't mean it's right. | 16:23 |
| tgm4883 | hmm | 16:24 |
| tgm4883 | it loosly fits the definitions | 16:24 |
| tgm4883 | /opt This directory should contain add-on packages that contain static files. | 16:24 |
| nathwill | so aside from the fact that it's superfluous, my major objection to /opt is that it's generally mounted on the same partition as root | 16:25 |
| tgm4883 | Default partitioning in Ubuntu is the same is it not? | 16:25 |
| tgm4883 | everything in one partition | 16:25 |
| nathwill | which causes problems. especially when we're pushing big (gigs) commercial apps down | 16:25 |
| tgm4883 | I don't recall if /home is a different partition | 16:25 |
| bkerensa | tgm4883: I see | 19:05 |
| bkerensa | nathwill: My fiancee is going to kill me soon if I don't offload this server :) any chance on Thursday you might want to hold onto it for a bit? | 19:12 |
| bkerensa | :D | 19:12 |
| bkerensa | imho if we don't hear back from PSU soon perhaps it might be best to consider Plan B | 19:12 |
| nathwill | sure thing bkerensa, let's meet up for lunch/dinner on thursday? | 19:14 |
| nathwill | and we can do the swap then | 19:14 |
| nathwill | then i can load the hard drives and get the base installed | 19:14 |
| bkerensa | nathwill: uhh the debian beering? | 19:14 |
| bkerensa | :) | 19:14 |
| bkerensa | Maybe you can swing by and I can put it in your trunk and we can go to the beering? | 19:15 |
| bkerensa | slangasek: that is still going on thursday right? | 19:15 |
| bkerensa | tgm4883: any interest in being a banner keeper? :) | 19:19 |
| tgm4883 | bkerensa, I could possibly, I don't go to many events that you aren't already at though | 19:20 |
| bkerensa | tgm4883: yeah but you are in our second most active city :) so if someone needed the banner you could offload it much easier :) | 19:21 |
| tgm4883 | true | 19:21 |
| nathwill | oh, even better | 19:24 |
| bkerensa | tgm4883: you planning for UDS? | 19:36 |
| tgm4883 | bkerensa, I've applied for sponsorship | 19:36 |
| bkerensa | So I imagine you will go :) | 19:37 |
| tgm4883 | I can hope :) | 19:37 |
| tgm4883 | maybe slangasek gets a vote? | 19:37 |
| bkerensa | he does | 19:37 |
| bkerensa | :) | 19:37 |
| tgm4883 | Vote for tgm4883! | 19:37 |
| bkerensa | All Team Managers do | 19:37 |
| bkerensa | :) | 19:37 |
| bkerensa | Kernel, Foundations, Security, Desktop, Server/Cloud, Community and then sabdfl | 19:38 |
| tgm4883 | cool | 19:38 |
| bkerensa | The hotel and convention center in copenhagen looks amazing | 19:39 |
| tgm4883 | yea looks pretty nice | 19:39 |
| c_smith | bkerensa, you know how you asked if my issue with my Iconia Tab was fixable? here's an XDA Dev post about that issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1845699 so essentially, I was fishing with dynamite. | 20:15 |
| bkerensa | nathwill: I have a interview with PuppetLabs Thursday | 21:31 |
| bkerensa | ;) | 21:31 |
| nathwill | bkerensa, good luck! | 21:32 |
| bkerensa | nathwill: I know right :P its with a VP even ;p | 21:33 |
| nathwill | the guy we met at the release party? | 21:35 |
| bkerensa | nathwill: nah that "was" their Community Manager | 21:38 |
| bkerensa | ;) | 21:38 |
| bkerensa | Guess what job I applied for? | 21:38 |
| bkerensa | ;) | 21:38 |
| nathwill | hey slangasek, any insight on the debian perl policy saying "no daemons" ? | 21:38 |
| bkerensa | "Community Manager" ;) | 21:38 |
| nathwill | rofl | 21:38 |
| bkerensa | lol | 21:38 |
| nathwill | i see | 21:38 |
| slangasek | nathwill: I don't see anything like that in the perl policy I have here? | 21:39 |
| nathwill | k, i'll see if i can find it again. was reading through it last night at home (diff pc) | 21:41 |
| nathwill | slangasek: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/first.en.html#choose my mistake, this section is not specific to perl | 21:53 |
| nathwill | it just says "don't package daemons", which is even cooler | 21:53 |
| slangasek | nor is it part of Policy | 21:54 |
| slangasek | it's just a set of recommendations for getting started on contributing to Debian | 21:54 |
| nathwill | gotcha | 21:56 |
| bkerensa | nathwill: Lucky Lab has a Taster for $8.50 its great | 21:57 |
| nathwill | slangasek, you have any intuition on why there would be a 'no-daemons' recommendation? i thought it was a curious request. | 21:57 |
| nathwill | bkerensa, i look forward to visiting, it seems to be a popular destination | 21:57 |
| slangasek | nathwill: sure, because there are lots of security concerns and lots of other policy requirements around integration of startup scripts, so all other things being equal a daemon is not the best place to start | 22:03 |
| nathwill | slangasek, ok. that seems a sensible comment then. thanks. | 22:04 |
| nathwill | omfg. i never thought i'd say it, but i miss freebsd | 23:38 |
| c_smith | nathwill, why? | 23:38 |
| nathwill | c_smith, rhel migration is going poorly :( | 23:38 |
| c_smith | one thing I never got is the unholy war between BSD and Linux. | 23:39 |
| c_smith | nathwill, ah, makes sense. | 23:39 |
| c_smith | *holy war. | 23:39 |
| c_smith | not unholy..... | 23:39 |
| nathwill | lol | 23:40 |
| nathwill | they compete in the same space, competition's healthy :) | 23:41 |
| c_smith | ah, I see. | 23:41 |
| c_smith | but a lot of people turn it into some holy war. | 23:41 |
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