[04:46] morning [04:49] FTR - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/TeamReports/12/August [05:41] Maaz: tell Kilos I e-mailed the sales lady yesterday [05:41] superfly: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode === DigiGram_away is now known as DigiGram [05:43] good morning all [05:44] wow I see what the meeting said about #ubuntu-ae not having critical mass.... [05:44] maybe they don't have any late night, early morning users... [05:46] Or they just don't have lots of folks, like nlthzn said :-P [05:48] yeah but I meant, only 3 users online currently [06:02] morning geeks. lurkers included [06:04] thanx for including me :) [06:04] moring Kilos [06:05] lol hiya DigiGram [06:05] I see I didn't miss much last night [06:06] nope was much to discuss actually === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [06:15] hi Trixar_za [06:16] Hey Kilos [06:16] oh look, people are awake [06:16] hi Squirm [06:24] Ohi latecomers [06:34] hi superfly nlsthzn [06:34] ty superfly [06:34] o/ uncle Kilos [06:42] posted this earlier but all the ZA peeps where still sleeping :p - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/TeamReports/12/August [06:42] feel free to add what ever isn't there yet for the month ;) [06:43] hiya maiatoday [06:43] hi Kilos [07:16] hi psydroid [07:23] * Squirm yawns [07:25] Hmmm [07:25] You know, if you have a group of SliTaz Linux users, it would be called a SLUG [07:25] lol [07:26] I belong to a SLUG [07:26] cept it stands for Surrey Linux User Group [07:26] :P [07:32] and I belong to Potch Linux User Group... so we are PLUG [07:37] There are also distros that start with M [07:37] so if you drop the L [07:37] you get MUG [07:38] Which would probably be perfect for South Africa [07:38] :P [07:38] * Trixar_za runs [07:41] hi Kilos [07:43] lol [07:43] Mandriva Unix Group basicly? [07:46] hehe [07:47] morning Squirm DigiGram Trixar_za and all those who are still asleep [07:47] morning [07:47] or probably at work :) [07:47] Morning psydroid [07:48] hi psydroid [07:51] heres a funny one lads. everytime i install anything from my archives with aptitude or synaptic they say do you wanna install this untrusted app etc and i gotta answer y twice and yes then install continues [07:52] and i chowned them archives to see if it helps [07:54] but apt and co works with a type of public key doesn't is? [07:56] i dunno wassup [07:56] 12.04 also battles with my external [07:57] external formatted as? [07:57] NTFS? [07:57] first stands and thinks for 5 mins before any action takes place [07:57] ext4 [07:57] ah [07:57] everything [07:57] that sucks [07:57] maverick on same pc and using same ports flies === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [08:32] that's strange [08:32] Kilos: maybe your external is slightly faulty [08:32] does it come up in `dmesg` when you plug it in? [08:33] i dunno Squirm it works well with maverick and 11.04 [08:33] i have even saved everything there and formatted from 12.04 and it goes slow to replace stuff [08:34] hmm [08:34] no message at all just busy checking something please wait [08:34] and how does it work with something like a flashdrive? [08:40] fine [08:41] but still not as fast as maverick. drag and drop from stick is instant with maverick 12.04 seems to move things slower [08:44] maybe they have a problem with a usb driver? [08:44] strange though that it works in an older version [08:45] yeah [08:56] morning all [09:02] hi jrgns [09:03] Kilos: i am actually late this morning [09:04] hehe [09:05] we forgive you, never mind [10:40] need [10:40] today [10:40] to [10:40] end [10:49] * Kilos falls of chair [10:50] Kilos: of chair? is that like a new name? [10:50] offfffff [10:50] don't you mean, "off"? [10:51] 12.04 auto connected to 8ta [10:51] off off off superfly [10:53] was comtemplating another clean install, then thought lets see the gnome fallback thing first [10:54] looks like maverick and can make lotsa workspaces but no right click add to panel function [10:54] so i rebooted to get back to unity and it auto connected to 8ta for the first time [10:58] betcha no one clan explain why [10:59] can [11:00] still dont believe it, will try again [11:00] bbl [11:06] hooooweeee before desktop fully open nm connected [11:06] * Kilos dances a jig [11:13] superfly, ian is installing kubuntu 12.04 on work pc with their win7 [11:13] so there is some progress [12:25] * Squirm yawns [12:25] 2 hours left [12:25] hehe so early [12:25] * Squirm watches the seconds tick by [12:29] apparently, before cellphones, the telephone exchange at an university in Johannesburg was flooded by calls to 1026 (the telkom time service) the closer to 16:30 it got [12:30] that's for you, Squirm [12:30] hehe [12:30] clock watcher [12:32] lol [12:34] and now [12:34] I have the time in the centre of the top of my monitor [12:34] lol [12:34] and every irc message is timestamped [12:34] it goes slower when you watch it [12:34] how do i do that in xchat? the timestamps [12:34] I know [12:34] it's the one thin i mess [12:35] miss [12:35] thing [12:35] dammit! [12:35] oh jrgns gosettings [12:35] Settings [12:35] Preferences [12:35] Tex Box [12:35] Text* [12:35] duh [12:35] found it [12:35] at the bottom [12:35] [%H:%M:%S] [12:35] i've looked at that dialog box multiple times [12:35] never saw it. guess i was a bit hasty [12:36] thnx [12:36] that's mine. I like the seconds too :) [12:36] Squirm, you remember that or you use xchat [12:36] ocd much? [12:36] Kilos: I use xchat [12:36] ah [12:36] * jrgns sets his timestamp format to [%H:%M:%S] [12:37] what does the greeting bot Kilos use? [12:37] xchat as well [12:37] tried quassel Konversation etc but xchat be kiff [12:37] btw, who wrote Maaz? [12:38] I've only really used irssi, mirc and xChat [12:38] cocooncrash, and vhata methinks [12:38] quassel is close as is Konversation [12:38] anyways [12:38] * Squirm goes to find something to do to make time fly [12:39] * Squirm finds a clock to throw out of his window [12:39] jrgns, and the weed is involved with them too [12:39] k, kewl [12:39] thnx [12:39] yw [12:40] and we now waiting for kbmonkey to give us a script he wrote to make Maaz and them do greetings to newcomers as well [12:40] then i can just lurk as well [12:42] my first Python app with gui was one I called Tjila, a countdown timer to tell you how many hours are left until you can leave work, then at the last 2 hours it goed to minutes and the last 5min it counts down in seconds [12:42] big popup when the time is 16:15 or whatever you set it to be hehe [12:43] rofl [12:43] and anything after that and before 7:00 the next morning it justs asks you why you are here... [12:45] yo drussell good news [12:47] inetpro, not even a comment [12:47] ?? [12:48] no greeting inna morns or anything [12:48] sjoe [12:48] well, your morns, our lunch time [12:49] Kilos: hey, how's it going? [12:49] good ty drussell and you? [12:50] Kilos: heh... a bit dopey... recovering from an operation yesterday [12:50] tried the gnome classic bit here in 12.04, couldnt right click add to panel so rebboted into unity and nm connected on its own [12:50] what op drussell ?? [12:51] you too young to have ops [12:51] tonsels and appendix only [12:52] Kilos: hehehe had two difficult wisdom teeth removed, but they had to remove a chunk of my jawbone to get to them... so general aesthetic and knocked out [12:52] Kilos: ahh good news with the nm connection [12:52] ouch, soup for a while\ [12:52] Kilos: yup, liquids and mushy stuff for a bit [12:52] sjoe [12:59] Kilos: you talkin to me? [12:59] ehlo everyone [12:59] lol lo pro [12:59] Maaz: coffee on [12:59] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [12:59] about you actually [12:59] Maaz, coffee please [12:59] Kilos: Alrighty [12:59] Maaz, with rusks [12:59] There is a packet of Ouma's in the cupboard Kilos help yourself [13:00] * Kilos shares with inetpro [13:00] eh thanks Kilos [13:00] now /me is really craving for rusks [13:01] haha [13:03] Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos! [13:03] Maaz, danke [13:03] Bitteschön [13:04] Maaz is awesome [13:04] yeah maaz rocks [13:27] lol [13:29] Maaz, you rock [13:29] Well, what do you expect from a mean Python bot Kilos [13:44] Maaz, have a nice day [13:44] jrgns: Huh? [13:45] Maaz, I'm being polite [13:45] jrgns: Sorry... [13:45] lol [13:45] cheers all [13:47] hmm [14:51] bbl [15:58] :> apple-cat: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-AI29UiS0qLQ/UDM_BjgAmtI/AAAAAAAADxU/thdQftMzsK8/w497-h373/apple%252Bcat.jpeg [16:50] * Squirm yawns [16:51] evening all. i hope you all safe at home with supper nearly inna tummy [16:52] hi oom Kilos :> [16:53] lo nuvolari [16:54] jy kan more aand so proe proe aan die pekel [16:56] Evening everyone [16:56] hi Cantide [16:57] hi HawkiesZA [16:57] Yo Kilos [16:57] evening '-' [16:57] Does anyone know of any photographers who use Ubuntu? [16:58] whew everyone on ubuntu with a cellphone [16:58] HawkiesZA, I might know one [16:58] but not so well - he's in CT and i've never met him personally [16:58] hello HawkiesZA [16:58] i go eat [16:59] bbl [16:59] howdy Cantide [16:59] * nuvolari gaan nuus kyk [16:59] he's definitely a photographer, but his use of Ubuntu is questionable - not sure if he uses it as his main OS [16:59] hi nuvolari :) [16:59] why is it questionable Cantide ? [16:59] i've seen him comment on Ubuntu on FB [16:59] howdy magespawn [17:00] but i got the impression that he was just testing it out [17:00] HawkiesZA, why do you ask? [17:00] howdy nuvolari [17:00] :-/ [17:00] howdy all [17:00] * nuvolari is an amateur photographer [17:00] HawkiesZA: ^^ [17:00] * Cantide wishes he had a better camera and more free time [17:01] Cantide, I'm trying to figure out what they use for photo processing. [17:01] ooh :> [17:01] aha [17:01] you'll love it: darktable [17:01] I've used it :/ [17:01] The workflow kinda irks me [17:01] didn't like it? [17:01] pfft. then I can't help [17:01] lol [17:01] it rocks IMO [17:02] all i know is GIMP, and even that not so well [17:02] besides that I use gimp [17:02] And then I found Aftershot Pro and its really cool (trial version)...But it's kinda against the whole Open philosophy [17:02] Cantide: when you get used to darktable it's excellent [17:02] Maybe I just need to spend more time with Darktable [17:03] HawkiesZA, where are you from? [17:03] erk, I mean HawkiesZA :P [17:03] nuvolari, i figured :p [17:04] HawkiesZA: I doubt you'll find anything more powerful on Linux than darktable [17:04] I used to use LightZone [17:05] but that was proprietary and I had an illegal registration :P [17:05] darktable was the only software to match and now surpass the functionality [17:06] Cantide, Pretoria [17:06] it has been discontinued as the developer started working for apple [17:06] aha, just curious :p [17:06] Why? Do I have to watch out for stalkers now? [17:06] the friend in CT is into birding, so i thought it too strange a coincidence [17:06] lol [17:06] I'm in Durbs, and I only stalk Korean girls >_> [17:06] No worries for me then [17:07] yup [17:07] phew [17:07] Cantide: do you stalk coffee shops too? [17:07] we're planning an Ubuntu meet for this weekend [17:07] occasionally - but only on Wednesdays [17:07] not confirmed yet [17:07] oh [17:07] in Durban? [17:07] durbs/north coast [17:07] nuvolari, Hrm...I'll give Darktable another go. Maybe the workflow grows on me, but so far it seems very jumpy. Lots of back-and-forth [17:08] gateway probably [17:08] nuvolari, oh it's possible for me to go [17:08] but i have 4 assignments due in 2 weeks [17:08] :< [17:08] so i'm planning to stay indoors :'( [17:09] HawkiesZA: it's a bit worrying in the beginnig, but once you get the hang of it, you can customize the plugings to your favourites section and have everything you need in 1 place [17:09] Cantide: meh, ok, maybe next time [17:10] HawkiesZA: also take into consideration that it's under very active development, so things change now and then [17:10] on that note nuvolari I am trying to get my Durban trip organized for Saturday. [17:10] magespawn: whoot! great news [17:10] magespawn: if you have it organized, we can't back out [17:11] there are somethings to be decided but looks like it should be okay. [17:12] nuvolari, what time / day would this Ubuntu meet be scheduled for? [17:12] Cantide: I believe it will be Saturday in the afternoon [17:12] eh [17:13] 1 to 2 to 3 hours :P depending on how much we have to talk about [17:13] Saturday morning is Gartenfest, Saturday evening is rugby [17:13] but i should be studying all weekend [17:13] haha [17:13] oh, and my dad is using the car in the afternoon -.-v [17:13] out of luck :< [17:13] you do not have to stay for the full time but longer is better of course [17:13] no problem... we now know where your priorities are... *cough* [17:14] where do you stay cantide? [17:14] Gateway is kinda far for me, so it would take a while travelling as it is [17:14] Queensburgh [17:14] is that north or south? [17:15] south (relevant to Gateway) [17:15] umm [17:15] basically between Durban and Pinetown [17:15] north of durbs? [17:15] west of Durbs [17:15] eek :-/ [17:15] that's far [17:15] yeah :-S [17:16] hrr! we are so far apart in Kzn [17:16] it's about a 45 minute drive up the N2 [17:16] it really sucks [17:16] maybe a bit more [17:16] yeah :/ [17:16] Ubuntu meet would be cool :) [17:16] next time '-' [17:16] yeah, in 3 years I have been to 1 :-/ [17:16] hi all :) [17:17] hello [17:17] howdy smile :) [17:17] Darktable looks interesting :) [17:17] nuvolari: :D [17:17] I will have to go to central Durban first thing to pick up equipment from a supplier, so you could come with me to the meet, then you would just need a way of getting home Cantide [17:18] how are you nuvolari ;) [17:18] hey smile [17:18] heey :) [17:18] magespawn, thanks for the offer, but getting home might be an issue :/ [17:18] doing well thank you smile! How are you doing? [17:18] regardless, I think i should stay home and study :< [17:18] well keep it in mind if something changes [17:18] sure :) [17:19] nuvolari: I am okay. Tooth hurting ;) [17:19] brb fish one time [17:21] whew you guys can chat [17:22] hi magespawn [17:22] smile :) [17:23] evening slowpokes [17:23] Kilos: ! :) [17:23] hi superfly [17:31] storietyd [17:31] ek is later terug [17:31] hehe [17:32] he is becoming square eyed from all the idiot box watching [17:40] hi Pankreas [17:40] Evening Kilos [17:40] you didnt blow up your pc? [17:41] or you still on winsucks [17:42] Hahahaha, no, not yet, been hectically busy at work... Wow, impressed.... Spell checking in irc... No, chatting from xchat on ubuntu [17:42] My internet connection for some reason only connects to the edge network...... [17:43] so, frustratingly slow, or at least slower than what i'm used to. [17:44] that must be the local tower [17:44] what sp you using? [17:44] mtn here by me is only edge as well [17:44] Pankreas, try 8ta [17:45] Mtn, aswell... might be the tower, or they are throttling me. [17:46] no they very slack with upgrading to 3g [17:46] get an 8ta sim and try that [17:46] they cheap\ [17:47] and good service [17:47] and get a 2g +1g night surfer for R146 [17:47] i'm happy with my 8ta :) [17:47] might do that. [17:48] evening Cantide [17:48] good evening ^o^ [17:49] Thats not bad. But I got that uncapped deal from mtn. I have been using it. lol. [17:50] lol they catch people. i see they advertising a 3g modem with 2g a month for R149 tonight on the idiot box [17:50] but on edge itsucks === Cantide is now known as CanStudy [17:50] good boy [17:50] ^^;;;; [17:50] tomorrow evening i may not study so much [17:51] because a parcel is arriving from Korea [17:51] so i'd better get the studying done tonight ^-^;; [17:51] lol [17:51] sound interesting [17:51] CanStudy, whats in the parcel? [17:52] assorted Korean snacks [17:52] yummy [17:52] like kimchi, gim, yanpa rings etc. [17:52] you can study while chomping as well [17:52] and hopefully some other things ^^; [17:52] nice [17:52] sure, but i need to send an email of thanks, and perhaps chat a little to the sender [17:52] lol [17:53] * CanStudy is hoping for some epic cup noodles [17:53] oh yeah, study time now :) [17:53] CanStudy: good luck ;) [17:53] thanks :-S [17:54] got 4 assignments to do before the 3rd of September... [17:54] time is not on my side :p [17:54] Yeah, good luck. What are you studying btw? [17:54] then get busy CanStudy [17:54] right now, linguistics [17:55] The effects of Eurocentrism on language usage in Africa ._. [17:55] Right. [17:55] superfly, hows the family? [17:55] say hi to the yank for me [17:57] just woke up Pankreas you remembered xchat [17:57] hehe [17:57] Kilos: alles fine [17:57] good ty superfly [18:00] lo [18:00] lol, well done. Kilos. I also figured out out to share the internet connection with my laptop via the wired connection, so that I can use the software, on the laptop to connect the android phone, via the wireless connection [18:00] lo Squirm [18:00] well done Pankreas [18:01] hi psydroid [18:01] Ty Kilos [18:01] Brb [18:07] hey Kilos [18:07] back like a boomarang [18:07] you been scarce hey magespawn [18:07] yeah there is this little thing called work that keeps getting in the way [18:08] lol [18:09] you need a few more rhino horns to get ahead [18:09] not entirely sure why I have to keep doing it but there we go [18:10] methinks everyone has the same problem [18:11] nah some ppl have trust funds or winning lotto tickets, I have neither of those yet [18:11] hahaha [18:12] or illicit rhino-horn trade >_> [18:12] go study [18:12] somehow i got a raise last week, and less hours, too [18:12] oh yeah [18:12] nosy brat [18:12] * CanStudy scurries off [18:12] hehe [18:12] that is quite risky [18:13] yeah not worth it magespawn [18:13] too many bullets flying around for my likeing [18:13] mining is not much safer >_> [18:13] not these days [18:14] magespawn, whats your bots name again and why she dont visit my channel [18:14] i got qp rocking with the daily build package [18:15] was gc but I took her of the server when I redid the install [18:15] oh ya gc [18:15] my sieve is getting old [18:15] leeks lots [18:15] leaks as well [18:16] lol [18:16] not doing too badly considering [18:17] i get lotsa help from my friends [18:17] we all get by with a little help from our friends [18:18] nuvolari, has become a tv addict [18:19] man the people who write computer books really know their topic but they could make it a sight easier and more entertaining to read [18:19] too factual [18:19] i think that most of the time you could cut the number of pages by half [18:20] sounds like the book i'm busy reading ._. [18:20] most of it is explaining how to get where you actually do something [18:20] they walk you through a linux install step by step with explanations for each thing that happens [18:21] for eg 9 pages for a basic red hat sever install [18:22] Network + textbook [18:22] doesnt it install from the cd like ubuntu? [18:22] is the 9 pages the setting up [18:23] as far as I know, never tried with red hat [18:23] dont forget books have to explain to the uninformed how to do it as well [18:23] mm true I suppose [18:24] * smile listens to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA3DNlBMNL0 [18:24] I would imagine that most ppl who get this far have already done at least one install of their own, but I could be wrong on that [18:25] most peeps wouldnt even think about installing a server [18:25] thats why there are IT companies [18:26] still trying to get my head around ip addresses and subnet masks, and ip v6 [18:26] thats true Kilos [18:26] um, Kilos..... [18:27] yes Pankreas [18:27] the setting up of a new system is relatively simple, but when you have to work on somebody else's system with data that cannot be lost then the steaks go up [18:27] Sorry, you did say most people.... [18:28] lol [18:28] yip magespawn thats why data recovery guys make a living too [18:28] I would have install ubuntu server, just to play around, and figure things out. [18:29] thats is what the wife keeps telling me [18:30] Pankreas, you can still . but get used to ubuntu desktop first [18:30] the whut whut? [18:30] ek is nie 'n addict nie oom [18:31] 4de kabinet wys net 1x 'n week [18:31] hehe [18:31] is dit die ding op 2 nuvolari [18:31] Kilos: ja oom :> [18:31] bye [18:31] toods smile [18:31] bye smile [18:32] kip lekker [18:32] dankie! :D [18:32] kip =slang for sleep [18:32] ;) [18:32] I should actually get an extra pc for that... as magespawn mention, I have data that I would not like to lose. Yip, getting used to is the better option. [18:32] cheers smile [18:32] thanks Pankreas [18:33] Pankreas, there is lotsa info in the man pages too [18:33] oh hi! didn't see you there Pankreas === nuvolari is now known as liver [18:33] howdy buddy [18:33] lol [18:33] :P [18:34] haha [18:34] Pankreas, type in a terminal man xchat [18:34] Who else is here? [18:34] or man anything you need info on [18:34] just about [18:35] Pankreas, is normally the last to be noticed...... liver lol [18:35] some are busy working and others are just lurking [18:35] nice one Kilos , thanks [18:36] yw [18:36] i battle to understand most of it [18:36] thats why im here [18:36] liver, how you? [18:37] right Kilos , I should actually be busy sleeping [18:37] lol [18:38] o right. excuse me a second. [18:48] Pankreas: I'm good, how are you? functional? === liver is now known as nuvolari [18:51] night guys , sleep tight. see you all tomorrow [18:51] night oom Kilos [18:51] lekeer slaap :> [18:51] *lekker [18:52] danie seun [18:52] night Kilos :) [18:52] cheers kilos [18:54] anybody know how to use telnet to login in to a dlink router? [19:55] good night all