[04:46] <Squirm> morning
[04:49] <nlsthzn> FTR - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/TeamReports/12/August
[05:41] <superfly> Maaz: tell Kilos I e-mailed the sales lady yesterday
[05:41] <Maaz> superfly: Got it, I'll tell Kilos on freenode
[05:43] <DigiGram> good morning all
[05:44] <DigiGram> wow I see what the meeting said about #ubuntu-ae not having critical mass....
[05:44] <DigiGram> maybe they don't have any late night, early morning users...
[05:46] <superfly> Or they just don't have lots of folks, like nlthzn said :-P
[05:48] <DigiGram> yeah but I meant, only 3 users online currently
[06:02] <Kilos> morning geeks. lurkers included
[06:04] <DigiGram> thanx for including me :)
[06:04] <DigiGram> moring Kilos
[06:05] <Kilos> lol hiya DigiGram 
[06:05] <DigiGram> I see I didn't miss much last night
[06:06] <Kilos> nope was much to discuss actually
[06:15] <Kilos> hi Trixar_za 
[06:16] <Trixar_za> Hey Kilos
[06:16] <Squirm> oh look, people are awake
[06:16] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[06:24] <superfly> Ohi latecomers
[06:34] <Kilos> hi superfly nlsthzn 
[06:34] <Kilos> ty superfly 
[06:34] <nlsthzn> o/ uncle Kilos 
[06:42] <nlsthzn> posted this earlier but all the ZA peeps where still sleeping :p - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/TeamReports/12/August
[06:42] <nlsthzn> feel free to add what ever isn't there yet for the month ;)
[06:43] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday 
[06:43] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[07:16] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[07:23]  * Squirm yawns
[07:25] <Trixar_za> Hmmm
[07:25] <Trixar_za> You know, if you have a group of SliTaz Linux users, it would be called a SLUG
[07:25] <Squirm> lol
[07:26] <Squirm> I belong to a SLUG
[07:26] <Squirm> cept it stands for Surrey Linux User Group
[07:26] <Squirm> :P
[07:32] <DigiGram> and I belong to Potch Linux User Group... so we are PLUG
[07:37] <Trixar_za> There are also distros that start with M
[07:37] <Trixar_za> so if you drop the L
[07:37] <Trixar_za> you get MUG
[07:38] <Trixar_za> Which would probably be perfect for South Africa
[07:38] <Trixar_za> :P
[07:38]  * Trixar_za runs
[07:41] <psydroid> hi Kilos
[07:43] <Squirm> lol
[07:43] <DigiGram> Mandriva Unix Group basicly?
[07:46] <Kilos> hehe
[07:47] <psydroid> morning Squirm DigiGram Trixar_za and all those who are still asleep
[07:47] <DigiGram> morning
[07:47] <psydroid> or probably at work :)
[07:47] <Trixar_za> Morning psydroid
[07:48] <Squirm> hi psydroid 
[07:51] <Kilos> heres a funny one lads. everytime i install anything from my archives with aptitude or synaptic they say do you wanna install this untrusted app etc and i gotta answer y twice and yes  then install continues
[07:52] <Kilos> and i chowned them archives to see if it helps
[07:54] <DigiGram> but apt and co works with a type of public key doesn't is?
[07:56] <Kilos> i dunno wassup
[07:56] <Kilos> 12.04 also battles with my external
[07:57] <DigiGram> external formatted as?
[07:57] <DigiGram> NTFS?
[07:57] <Kilos> first stands and thinks for 5 mins before any action takes place
[07:57] <Kilos> ext4
[07:57] <DigiGram> ah
[07:57] <Kilos> everything
[07:57] <DigiGram> that sucks
[07:57] <Kilos> maverick on same pc and using same ports flies
[08:32] <Squirm> that's strange
[08:32] <Squirm> Kilos: maybe your external is slightly faulty
[08:32] <Squirm> does it come up in `dmesg` when you plug it in?
[08:33] <Kilos> i dunno Squirm it works well with maverick and 11.04
[08:33] <Kilos> i have even saved everything there and formatted from 12.04 and it goes slow to replace stuff
[08:34] <Squirm> hmm
[08:34] <Kilos> no message at all just busy checking something please wait
[08:34] <Squirm> and how does it work with something like a flashdrive?
[08:40] <Kilos> fine
[08:41] <Kilos> but still not as fast as maverick. drag and drop from stick is instant with maverick 12.04 seems to move things slower
[08:44] <Squirm> maybe they have a problem with a usb driver?
[08:44] <Squirm> strange though that it works in an older version
[08:45] <Kilos> yeah
[08:56] <jrgns> morning all
[09:02] <Kilos> hi jrgns 
[09:03] <jrgns> Kilos: i am actually late this morning
[09:04] <Kilos> hehe
[09:05] <Kilos> we forgive you, never mind
[10:40] <Squirm> need
[10:40] <Squirm> today
[10:40] <Squirm> to
[10:40] <Squirm> end
[10:49]  * Kilos falls of chair
[10:50] <superfly> Kilos: of chair? is that like a new name?
[10:50] <Kilos> offfffff
[10:50] <superfly> don't you mean, "off"?
[10:51] <Kilos> 12.04 auto connected to 8ta
[10:51] <Kilos> off off off superfly 
[10:53] <Kilos> was comtemplating another clean install, then thought lets see the gnome fallback thing first
[10:54] <Kilos> looks like maverick and can make lotsa workspaces but no right click add to panel function
[10:54] <Kilos> so i rebooted to get back to unity and it auto connected to 8ta for the first time
[10:58] <Kilos> betcha no one clan explain why
[10:59] <Kilos> can
[11:00] <Kilos> still dont believe it, will try again
[11:00] <Kilos> bbl
[11:06] <Kilos> hooooweeee before desktop fully open nm connected
[11:06]  * Kilos dances a jig
[11:13] <Kilos> superfly, ian is installing kubuntu 12.04 on work pc with their win7
[11:13] <Kilos> so there is some progress
[12:25]  * Squirm yawns
[12:25] <Squirm> 2 hours left
[12:25] <Kilos> hehe so early
[12:25]  * Squirm watches the seconds tick by
[12:29] <jrgns> apparently, before cellphones, the telephone exchange at an university in Johannesburg was flooded by calls to 1026 (the telkom time service) the closer to 16:30 it got
[12:30] <jrgns> that's for you, Squirm
[12:30] <Kilos> hehe
[12:30] <Kilos> clock watcher
[12:32] <Squirm> lol
[12:34] <Squirm> and now
[12:34] <Squirm> I have the time in the centre of the top of my monitor
[12:34] <Kilos> lol
[12:34] <Squirm> and every irc message is timestamped
[12:34] <Kilos> it goes slower when you watch it
[12:34] <jrgns> how do i do that in xchat? the timestamps
[12:34] <Squirm> I know
[12:34] <jrgns> it's the one thin i mess
[12:35] <jrgns> miss
[12:35] <jrgns> thing
[12:35] <jrgns> dammit!
[12:35] <Kilos> oh jrgns gosettings
[12:35] <Squirm> Settings
[12:35] <Squirm> Preferences
[12:35] <Squirm> Tex Box
[12:35] <Squirm> Text*
[12:35] <jrgns> duh
[12:35] <jrgns> found it
[12:35] <Squirm> at the bottom
[12:35] <Squirm> [%H:%M:%S] 
[12:35] <jrgns> i've looked at that dialog box multiple times
[12:35] <jrgns> never saw it. guess i was a bit hasty
[12:36] <jrgns> thnx
[12:36] <Squirm> that's mine. I like the seconds too :)
[12:36] <Kilos> Squirm, you remember that or you use xchat
[12:36] <jrgns> ocd much?
[12:36] <Squirm> Kilos: I use xchat
[12:36] <Kilos> ah
[12:36]  * jrgns sets his timestamp format to [%H:%M:%S] 
[12:37] <jrgns> what does the greeting bot Kilos use?
[12:37] <Kilos> xchat as well
[12:37] <Kilos> tried quassel Konversation etc but xchat be kiff
[12:37] <jrgns> btw, who wrote Maaz?
[12:38] <Squirm> I've only really used irssi, mirc and xChat
[12:38] <Kilos> cocooncrash, and vhata methinks
[12:38] <Kilos> quassel is close as is Konversation
[12:38] <Squirm> anyways
[12:38]  * Squirm goes to find something to do to make time fly
[12:39]  * Squirm finds a clock to throw out of his window
[12:39] <Kilos> jrgns, and the weed is involved with them too
[12:39] <jrgns> k, kewl
[12:39] <jrgns> thnx
[12:39] <Kilos> yw
[12:40] <Kilos> and we now waiting for kbmonkey to give us a script he wrote to make Maaz and them do greetings to newcomers as well
[12:40] <Kilos> then i can just lurk as well
[12:42] <DigiGram> my first Python app with gui was one I called Tjila, a countdown timer to tell you how many hours are left until you can leave work, then at the last 2 hours it goed to minutes and the last 5min it counts down in seconds
[12:42] <DigiGram> big popup when the time is 16:15 or whatever you set it to be hehe
[12:43] <Kilos> rofl
[12:43] <DigiGram> and anything after that and before 7:00 the next morning it justs asks you why you are here...
[12:45] <Kilos> yo drussell good news
[12:47] <Kilos> inetpro, not even a comment
[12:47] <Kilos> ??
[12:48] <Kilos> no greeting inna morns or anything
[12:48] <Kilos> sjoe
[12:48] <Kilos> well, your morns, our lunch time
[12:49] <drussell> Kilos: hey, how's it going?
[12:49] <Kilos> good ty drussell and you?
[12:50] <drussell> Kilos: heh... a bit dopey... recovering from an operation yesterday
[12:50] <Kilos> tried the gnome classic bit here in 12.04, couldnt right click add to panel so rebboted into unity and nm connected on its own
[12:50] <Kilos> what op drussell ??
[12:51] <Kilos> you too young to have ops
[12:51] <Kilos> tonsels and appendix only
[12:52] <drussell> Kilos: hehehe had two difficult wisdom teeth removed, but they had to remove a chunk of my jawbone to get to them... so general aesthetic and knocked out
[12:52] <drussell> Kilos: ahh good news with the nm connection
[12:52] <Kilos> ouch, soup for a while\
[12:52] <drussell> Kilos: yup, liquids and mushy stuff for a bit
[12:52] <Kilos> sjoe
[12:59] <inetpro> Kilos: you talkin to me?
[12:59] <inetpro> ehlo everyone
[12:59] <Kilos> lol lo pro
[12:59] <inetpro> Maaz: coffee on
[12:59]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[12:59] <Kilos> about you actually
[12:59] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[12:59] <Maaz> Kilos: Alrighty
[12:59] <Kilos> Maaz, with rusks
[12:59] <Maaz> There is a packet of Ouma's in the cupboard Kilos help yourself
[13:00]  * Kilos shares with inetpro 
[13:00] <inetpro> eh thanks Kilos
[13:00] <inetpro> now /me is really craving for rusks
[13:01] <Kilos> haha
[13:03] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos!
[13:03] <Kilos> Maaz, danke
[13:03] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[13:04] <DigiGram> Maaz is awesome
[13:04] <Kilos> yeah maaz rocks
[13:27] <jrgns> lol
[13:29] <Kilos> Maaz, you rock
[13:29] <Maaz> Well, what do you expect from a mean Python bot Kilos
[13:44] <jrgns> Maaz, have a nice day
[13:44] <Maaz> jrgns: Huh?
[13:45] <jrgns> Maaz, I'm being polite
[13:45] <Maaz> jrgns: Sorry...
[13:45] <jrgns> lol
[13:45] <jrgns> cheers all
[13:47] <Kilos> hmm
[14:51] <Kilos> bbl
[15:58] <nuvolari> :> apple-cat: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-AI29UiS0qLQ/UDM_BjgAmtI/AAAAAAAADxU/thdQftMzsK8/w497-h373/apple%252Bcat.jpeg
[16:50]  * Squirm yawns
[16:51] <Kilos> evening all. i hope you all safe at home with supper nearly inna tummy
[16:52] <nuvolari> hi oom Kilos :>
[16:53] <Kilos> lo nuvolari 
[16:54] <Kilos> jy kan more aand so proe proe aan die pekel
[16:56] <HawkiesZA> Evening everyone
[16:56] <Kilos> hi Cantide 
[16:57] <Kilos> hi HawkiesZA 
[16:57] <HawkiesZA> Yo Kilos 
[16:57] <Cantide> evening '-'
[16:57] <HawkiesZA> Does anyone know of any photographers who use Ubuntu?
[16:58] <Kilos> whew everyone on ubuntu with a cellphone
[16:58] <Cantide> HawkiesZA, I might know one
[16:58] <Cantide> but not so well - he's in CT and i've never met him personally
[16:58] <nuvolari> hello HawkiesZA 
[16:58] <Kilos> i go eat
[16:59] <Kilos> bbl
[16:59] <nuvolari> howdy Cantide 
[16:59]  * nuvolari gaan nuus kyk
[16:59] <Cantide> he's definitely a photographer, but his use of Ubuntu is questionable - not sure if he uses it as his main OS
[16:59] <Cantide> hi nuvolari :)
[16:59] <nuvolari> why is it questionable Cantide ?
[16:59] <Cantide> i've seen him comment on Ubuntu on FB
[16:59] <nuvolari> howdy magespawn 
[17:00] <Cantide> but i got the impression that he was just testing it out
[17:00] <Cantide> HawkiesZA, why do you ask?
[17:00] <magespawn> howdy nuvolari
[17:00] <nuvolari> :-/
[17:00] <magespawn> howdy all
[17:00]  * nuvolari is an amateur photographer
[17:00] <nuvolari> HawkiesZA: ^^
[17:00]  * Cantide wishes he had a better camera and more free time
[17:01] <HawkiesZA> Cantide,  I'm trying to figure out what they use for photo processing. 
[17:01] <nuvolari> ooh :>
[17:01] <Cantide> aha
[17:01] <nuvolari> you'll love it: darktable
[17:01] <HawkiesZA> I've used it :/
[17:01] <HawkiesZA> The workflow kinda irks me
[17:01] <nuvolari> didn't like it?
[17:01] <nuvolari> pfft. then I can't help
[17:01] <Cantide> lol
[17:01] <nuvolari> it rocks IMO
[17:02] <Cantide> all i know is GIMP, and even that not so well
[17:02] <nuvolari> besides that I use gimp
[17:02] <HawkiesZA> And then I found Aftershot Pro and its really cool (trial version)...But it's kinda against the whole Open philosophy
[17:02] <nuvolari> Cantide: when you get used to darktable it's excellent
[17:02] <HawkiesZA> Maybe I just need to spend more time with Darktable
[17:03] <Cantide> HawkiesZA, where are you from?
[17:03] <nuvolari> erk, I mean HawkiesZA :P
[17:03] <Cantide> nuvolari, i figured :p
[17:04] <nuvolari> HawkiesZA: I doubt you'll find anything more powerful on Linux than darktable
[17:04] <nuvolari> I used to use LightZone
[17:05] <nuvolari> but that was proprietary and I had an illegal registration :P 
[17:05] <nuvolari> darktable was the only software to match and now surpass the functionality
[17:06] <HawkiesZA> Cantide, Pretoria
[17:06] <nuvolari> it has been discontinued as the developer started working for apple
[17:06] <Cantide> aha, just curious :p
[17:06] <HawkiesZA> Why? Do I have to watch out for stalkers now?
[17:06] <Cantide> the friend in CT is into birding, so i thought it too strange a coincidence
[17:06] <Cantide> lol
[17:06] <Cantide> I'm in Durbs, and I only stalk Korean girls >_>
[17:06] <HawkiesZA> No worries for me then
[17:07] <Cantide> yup
[17:07] <HawkiesZA> phew
[17:07] <nuvolari> Cantide: do you stalk coffee shops too?
[17:07] <nuvolari> we're planning an Ubuntu meet for this weekend
[17:07] <Cantide> occasionally - but only on Wednesdays
[17:07] <nuvolari> not confirmed yet
[17:07] <Cantide> oh
[17:07] <Cantide> in Durban?
[17:07] <nuvolari> durbs/north coast
[17:07] <HawkiesZA> nuvolari, Hrm...I'll give Darktable another go. Maybe the workflow grows on me, but so far it seems very jumpy. Lots of back-and-forth
[17:08] <nuvolari> gateway probably
[17:08] <Cantide> nuvolari, oh it's possible for me to go
[17:08] <Cantide> but i have 4 assignments due in 2 weeks
[17:08] <Cantide> :<
[17:08] <Cantide> so i'm planning to stay indoors :'(
[17:09] <nuvolari> HawkiesZA: it's a bit worrying in the beginnig, but once you get the hang of it, you can customize the plugings to your favourites section and have everything you need in 1 place
[17:09] <nuvolari> Cantide: meh, ok, maybe next time
[17:10] <nuvolari> HawkiesZA: also take into consideration that it's under very active development, so things change now and then
[17:10] <magespawn> on that note nuvolari I am trying to get my Durban trip organized for Saturday.
[17:10] <nuvolari> magespawn: whoot! great news
[17:10] <nuvolari> magespawn: if you have it organized, we can't back out
[17:11] <magespawn> there are somethings to be decided but looks like it should be okay.
[17:12] <Cantide> nuvolari, what time / day would this Ubuntu meet be scheduled for?
[17:12] <nuvolari> Cantide: I believe it will be Saturday in the afternoon
[17:12] <Cantide> eh
[17:13] <nuvolari> 1 to 2 to 3 hours :P depending on how much we have to talk about
[17:13] <Cantide> Saturday morning is Gartenfest, Saturday evening is rugby
[17:13] <Cantide> but i should be studying all weekend
[17:13] <Cantide> haha
[17:13] <Cantide> oh, and my dad is using the car in the afternoon -.-v
[17:13] <Cantide> out of luck :<
[17:13] <magespawn> you do not have to stay for the full time but longer is better of course
[17:13] <nuvolari> no problem... we now know where your priorities are... *cough*
[17:14] <magespawn> where do you stay cantide?
[17:14] <Cantide> Gateway is kinda far for me, so it would take a while travelling as it is
[17:14] <Cantide> Queensburgh
[17:14] <nuvolari> is that north or south?
[17:15] <Cantide> south (relevant to Gateway)
[17:15] <Cantide> umm
[17:15] <Cantide> basically between Durban and Pinetown
[17:15] <nuvolari> north of durbs?
[17:15] <Cantide> west of Durbs
[17:15] <nuvolari> eek :-/
[17:15] <nuvolari> that's far
[17:15] <Cantide> yeah :-S
[17:16] <nuvolari> hrr! we are so far apart in Kzn
[17:16] <Cantide> it's about a 45 minute drive up the N2
[17:16] <nuvolari> it really sucks
[17:16] <Cantide> maybe a bit more
[17:16] <Cantide> yeah :/
[17:16] <Cantide> Ubuntu meet would be cool :)
[17:16] <Cantide> next time '-'
[17:16] <nuvolari> yeah, in 3 years I have been to 1 :-/
[17:16] <smile> hi all :)
[17:17] <Cantide> hello
[17:17] <nuvolari> howdy smile :)
[17:17] <Cantide> Darktable looks interesting :)
[17:17] <smile> nuvolari: :D
[17:17] <magespawn> I will have to go to central Durban first thing to pick up equipment from a supplier, so you could come with me to the meet, then you would just need a way of getting home Cantide
[17:18] <smile> how are you nuvolari ;)
[17:18] <magespawn> hey smile
[17:18] <smile> heey :)
[17:18] <Cantide> magespawn, thanks for the offer, but getting home might be an issue :/
[17:18] <nuvolari> doing well thank you smile! How are you doing?
[17:18] <Cantide> regardless, I think i should stay home and study :<
[17:18] <magespawn> well keep it in mind if something changes
[17:18] <Cantide> sure :)
[17:19] <smile> nuvolari: I am okay. Tooth hurting ;)
[17:19] <magespawn> brb fish one time
[17:21] <Kilos> whew you guys can chat
[17:22] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[17:22] <Kilos> smile :)
[17:23] <superfly> evening slowpokes
[17:23] <smile> Kilos: ! :)
[17:23] <Kilos> hi superfly 
[17:31] <nuvolari> storietyd
[17:31] <nuvolari> ek is later terug
[17:31] <Kilos> hehe
[17:32] <Kilos> he is becoming square eyed from all the idiot box watching
[17:40] <Kilos> hi Pankreas 
[17:40] <Pankreas> Evening Kilos 
[17:40] <Kilos> you didnt blow up your pc?
[17:41] <Kilos> or you still on winsucks
[17:42] <Pankreas> Hahahaha, no, not yet, been hectically busy at work... Wow, impressed....  Spell checking in irc... No, chatting from xchat on ubuntu
[17:42] <Pankreas> My internet connection for some reason only connects to the edge network......
[17:43] <Pankreas> so, frustratingly slow, or at least slower than what i'm used to.
[17:44] <Kilos> that must be the local tower
[17:44] <Kilos> what sp you using?
[17:44] <Kilos> mtn here by me is only edge as well
[17:44] <Kilos> Pankreas, try 8ta
[17:45] <Pankreas> Mtn, aswell... might be the tower, or they are throttling me.
[17:46] <Kilos> no they very slack with upgrading to 3g
[17:46] <Kilos> get an 8ta sim and try that
[17:46] <Kilos> they cheap\
[17:47] <Kilos> and good service
[17:47] <Kilos> and get a 2g +1g night surfer for R146
[17:47] <Cantide> i'm happy with my 8ta :)
[17:47] <Pankreas> might do that.
[17:48] <Pankreas> evening Cantide 
[17:48] <Cantide> good evening ^o^
[17:49] <Pankreas> Thats not bad. But I got that uncapped deal from mtn. I have been using it. lol.
[17:50] <Kilos> lol they catch people. i see they advertising a 3g modem with 2g a month for R149 tonight on the idiot box
[17:50] <Kilos> but on edge itsucks
[17:50] <Kilos> good boy
[17:50] <CanStudy> ^^;;;;
[17:50] <CanStudy> tomorrow evening i may not study so much
[17:51] <CanStudy> because a parcel is arriving from Korea
[17:51] <CanStudy> so i'd better get the studying done tonight ^-^;;
[17:51] <Kilos> lol
[17:51] <Pankreas> sound interesting
[17:51] <Kilos> CanStudy, whats in the parcel?
[17:52] <CanStudy> assorted Korean snacks
[17:52] <Kilos> yummy
[17:52] <CanStudy> like kimchi, gim, yanpa rings etc.
[17:52] <Kilos> you can study while chomping as well
[17:52] <CanStudy> and hopefully some other things ^^;
[17:52] <Pankreas> nice
[17:52] <CanStudy> sure, but i need to send an email of thanks, and perhaps chat a little to the sender
[17:52] <Kilos> lol
[17:53]  * CanStudy is hoping for some epic cup noodles
[17:53] <CanStudy> oh yeah, study time now :)
[17:53] <smile> CanStudy: good luck ;)
[17:53] <CanStudy> thanks :-S
[17:54] <CanStudy> got 4 assignments to do before the 3rd of September...
[17:54] <CanStudy> time is not on my side :p
[17:54] <Pankreas> Yeah, good luck. What are you studying btw?
[17:54] <Kilos> then get busy CanStudy 
[17:54] <CanStudy> right now, linguistics
[17:55] <CanStudy> The effects of Eurocentrism on language usage in Africa ._.
[17:55] <Pankreas> Right. 
[17:55] <Kilos> superfly, hows the family?
[17:55] <Kilos> say hi to the yank for me
[17:57] <Kilos> just woke up Pankreas you remembered xchat
[17:57] <Kilos> hehe
[17:57] <superfly> Kilos: alles fine
[17:57] <Kilos> good ty superfly 
[18:00] <Squirm> lo
[18:00] <Pankreas> lol, well done. Kilos. I also figured out out to share the internet connection with my laptop via the wired connection, so that I can use the software, on the laptop to connect the android phone, via the wireless connection
[18:00] <Kilos> lo Squirm 
[18:00] <Kilos> well done Pankreas 
[18:01] <Kilos> hi psydroid 
[18:01] <Pankreas> Ty Kilos 
[18:01] <Pankreas> Brb
[18:07] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[18:07] <magespawn> back like a boomarang
[18:07] <Kilos> you been scarce hey magespawn 
[18:07] <magespawn> yeah there is this little thing called work that keeps getting in the way
[18:08] <Kilos> lol
[18:09] <Kilos> you need a few more rhino horns to get ahead
[18:09] <magespawn> not entirely sure why I have to keep doing it but there we go
[18:10] <Kilos> methinks everyone has the same problem
[18:11] <magespawn> nah some ppl have trust funds or winning lotto tickets, I have neither of those yet
[18:11] <Kilos> hahaha
[18:12] <CanStudy> or illicit rhino-horn trade >_>
[18:12] <Kilos> go study
[18:12] <CanStudy> somehow i got a raise last week, and less hours, too
[18:12] <CanStudy> oh yeah
[18:12] <Kilos> nosy brat
[18:12]  * CanStudy scurries off
[18:12] <Kilos> hehe
[18:12] <magespawn> that is quite risky
[18:13] <Kilos> yeah not worth it magespawn 
[18:13] <magespawn> too many bullets flying around for my likeing
[18:13] <CanStudy> mining is not much safer >_>
[18:13] <magespawn> not these days
[18:14] <Kilos> magespawn, whats your bots name again and why she dont visit my channel
[18:14] <Kilos> i got qp rocking with the daily build package
[18:15] <magespawn> was gc but I took her of the server when I redid the install
[18:15] <Kilos> oh ya gc
[18:15] <Kilos> my sieve is getting old
[18:15] <Kilos> leeks lots
[18:15] <Kilos> leaks as well
[18:16] <magespawn> lol
[18:16] <magespawn> not doing too badly considering
[18:17] <Kilos> i get lotsa help from my friends
[18:17] <magespawn> we all get by with a little help from our friends
[18:18] <Kilos> nuvolari, has become a tv addict
[18:19] <magespawn> man the people who write computer books really know their topic but they could make it a sight easier and more entertaining to read
[18:19] <Kilos> too factual
[18:19] <magespawn> i think that most of the time you could cut the number of pages by half
[18:20] <CanStudy> sounds like the book i'm busy reading ._.
[18:20] <Kilos> most of it is explaining how to get where you actually do something
[18:20] <magespawn> they walk you through a linux install step by step with explanations for each thing that happens
[18:21] <magespawn> for eg 9 pages for a basic red hat sever install 
[18:22] <magespawn> Network + textbook
[18:22] <Kilos> doesnt it install from the cd like ubuntu?
[18:22] <Kilos> is the 9 pages the setting up
[18:23] <magespawn> as far as I know, never tried with red hat
[18:23] <Kilos> dont forget books have to explain to the uninformed how to do it as well
[18:23] <magespawn> mm true I suppose
[18:24]  * smile listens to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA3DNlBMNL0
[18:24] <magespawn> I would imagine that most ppl who get this far have already done at least one install of their own, but I could be wrong on that
[18:25] <Kilos> most peeps wouldnt even think about installing a server
[18:25] <Kilos> thats why there are IT companies
[18:26] <magespawn> still trying to get my head around ip addresses and subnet masks, and ip v6
[18:26] <magespawn> thats true Kilos
[18:26] <Pankreas> um, Kilos..... 
[18:27] <Kilos> yes Pankreas 
[18:27] <magespawn> the setting up of a new system is relatively simple, but when you have to work on somebody else's system with data that cannot be lost then the steaks go up
[18:27] <Pankreas> Sorry, you did say most people.... 
[18:28] <Kilos> lol
[18:28] <Kilos> yip magespawn thats why data recovery guys make a living too
[18:28] <Pankreas> I would have install ubuntu server, just to play around, and figure things out.
[18:29] <magespawn> thats is what the wife keeps telling me
[18:30] <Kilos> Pankreas, you can still . but get used to ubuntu desktop first
[18:30] <nuvolari> the whut whut?
[18:30] <nuvolari> ek is nie 'n addict nie oom
[18:31] <nuvolari> 4de kabinet wys net 1x 'n week
[18:31] <Kilos> hehe
[18:31] <Kilos> is dit die ding op 2 nuvolari 
[18:31] <nuvolari> Kilos: ja oom :>
[18:31] <smile> bye
[18:31] <Kilos> toods smile
[18:31] <nuvolari> bye smile 
[18:32] <Kilos> kip lekker
[18:32] <smile> dankie! :D
[18:32] <Kilos> kip =slang for sleep
[18:32] <smile> ;)
[18:32] <Pankreas>  I should actually get an extra pc for that... as magespawn mention, I have data that I would not like to lose. Yip, getting used to is the better option.
[18:32] <Pankreas> cheers smile 
[18:32] <smile> thanks Pankreas 
[18:33] <Kilos> Pankreas, there is lotsa info in the man pages too
[18:33] <nuvolari> oh hi! didn't see you there Pankreas 
[18:33] <liver> howdy buddy
[18:33] <Pankreas> lol
[18:33] <liver> :P
[18:34] <Kilos> haha
[18:34] <Kilos> Pankreas, type in a terminal man xchat
[18:34] <Pankreas> Who else is here?
[18:34] <Kilos> or man anything you need info on
[18:34] <Kilos> just about
[18:35] <Pankreas> Pankreas,  is normally the last to be noticed...... liver lol
[18:35] <Kilos> some are busy working and others are just lurking
[18:35] <Pankreas> nice one Kilos , thanks
[18:36] <Kilos> yw
[18:36] <Kilos> i battle to understand most of it
[18:36] <Kilos> thats why im here
[18:36] <Pankreas> liver, how you?
[18:37] <Pankreas> right Kilos , I should actually be busy sleeping
[18:37] <Kilos> lol
[18:38] <Pankreas> o right. excuse me a second.
[18:48] <liver> Pankreas: I'm good, how are you? functional?
[18:51] <Kilos> night guys , sleep tight. see you all tomorrow
[18:51] <nuvolari> night oom Kilos 
[18:51] <nuvolari> lekeer slaap :>
[18:51] <nuvolari> *lekker
[18:52] <Kilos> danie seun
[18:52] <CanStudy> night Kilos :)
[18:52] <magespawn> cheers kilos
[18:54] <magespawn> anybody know how to use telnet to login in to a dlink router?
[19:55] <magespawn> good night all