[00:02] hi... there are many folks out on the net wondering why kubuntu sound works, except for video playback, I'm one of them [00:02] I think this situation started around ubuntu 10.10 === matteo is now known as Guest60751 [00:17] in other words, mpg321 has sound, mplayer doesn't === crys is now known as Tita [01:02] Hi. I'm having an issue getting the kubuntu installer to run. I boot into the cd and select "start kubuntu." At this point the system will go to a black screen with a flashing cursor. After about 5 minutes the cd stops spinning. Nothing will happen from this point on. Any advice? [01:03] Trying to install 12.04 [01:04] jhutts, I usually install normal ubuntu from CD, then apt-get install kubuntu-full [01:05] danielbot : i'll have to try that then. thanks! [01:06] you can be pretty sure that once your ubuntu is up and running, installing kubuntu is easy [01:07] and that way you get to enjoy gnome for a short time also :) === OutToC is now known as MobiusTape [02:22] in Dolphin, Folders is showing hidden .folders, is there a way to turn that OFF? [02:23] doh! right-click on USER ... lol [02:23] or HOME folder === CQ_ is now known as CQ [03:56] wow [03:56] anyone here? [03:56] say something? [03:57] hey [03:57] say something? [04:46] is there a way to obtain a channel list here? [04:46] what app are you using [04:47] Quassel IRC [04:48] Right Click on Kubuntu IRC -> Show Channel List [04:48] click "Show Channels" [04:48] otherwise the generic IRC command is /list but you really don't want to use that === wook is now known as Guest50637 === mandragor is now known as weedar [08:29] Good morning [08:42] What network manager does Kubuntu us ? [08:42] *use [09:26] hali [09:27] ubuntu-ra kubuntu-t tudnék rakni úgy hogy a progik megmaradjanak? [09:27] !hu [09:27] Magyar nyelvű segítséget az #ubuntu-hu csatornán talál [09:28] srry [09:28] :) [09:28] thx bye :D [09:33] Hey folks. I'm currently trying to implement a little script that pings the gateways of all our company's establishments and rings the system bell if one fails to respond, since we have a lot of network provider issues lately [09:34] Kubuntu 12.04 doesn't seem to have an audible system bell though - echo -e "\a" doesn't make any sound. How can I fix that? [09:34] i already removed pcspkr from the module blacklist and manually loaded it, didn't help [09:35] mat619: Are you running the script in Konsole? [09:36] mat619: Because then you need to "customize notifications" and set the bell to some alert you like [09:37] by default I think it will only show a popup notification, in a focused window === ubuntu is now known as Guest92179 [10:00] mat619: you can install sox and use the "play" command [10:16] I use pacat /dev/urandom to have **really** irritating bell [10:16] it sometimes makes your heart skip a beat even [10:26] hello all [10:26] I accidentally deleted my home partition while trying to install androidx86, and now i cant log in [10:28] can anyone help? [10:44] hateball: sorry, been afk - that sheds some light in the dark, thx for the tip [10:44] if i want to install on lvm2, i need the alt cd, correct? [10:44] just found out that my system doesn't play any sound at all anymore since I swapped the graphic card and set the default sound device to HDMI output, as intended [10:45] hehe [10:46] nice. really nice. *rolling eyes* [10:47] ok, so gotta fix that first. any idea what's going on? I've set HDMI as default output for all categories in the phonon control module [10:47] no sound output whatsoever though [10:48] mat619, uh... it's doable is the only thing i can say off the bat [10:48] it depends on both video driver having support for it and alsa/pulseaudio not messing up [10:49] i reckon you should start with finding how well does your video driver support audio over hdmi [10:49] and if it should support it then look into pulseaudio's hdmi support or something [10:49] mat619: I've only played a tiny bit with HDMI with my intel system, and it refuses to play sound unless I also send the video over hdmi [10:50] hateball: oh. that's bad. since I don't have any other sound card in this system (not even onboard, since it's a server hardware based system) [10:50] mat619, okay, i remembered a bit, you might have to write a custom profile for pulseaudio [10:50] Well I'm not saying it can't be done [10:50] there should be some docs on that but i'm sort of bussy [10:50] Just... yeah [10:50] *busy [10:51] nfk: it's a GeForce 210 runnin on the default open source nvidia driver (nouveau, was it?) [10:51] yes [10:51] mat619, i don't know how well nouveau supports this [10:51] nfk: k, will read a bit... thanks. [10:51] also kubuntu might have some silly old version of nouveau [10:51] mat619, try asking in #nouveau maybe [10:51] the onboard speaker would be fine too, though, if it's usable [10:52] for now all I need is the system to make some noise if any gateway goes down [10:52] mat619, then set the onboard sound adapter as default in phonon [10:52] and if that doesn't help, try installing pavucontrol [10:52] or was it pavucontroller? [10:52] can't monitor a ping script all the time, and am not always sitting in front of the computer [10:53] How come you don't set up nagios or something instead? [10:53] nfk: no, I don't mean the onboard sound card - this system doesn't have one. i mean the plain old system beeper [10:53] mat619, that's probably not handled by pulseaudio [10:53] hateball: we have nagios running, but in another subnet, and setting up two separate systems would be overkill [10:53] mat619, konsole has a way to route that to the real sound system, tho [10:54] but it's a separate thing from what i remember [10:54] nfk: well I could still run the script on one of the vttys then I guess [10:54] mat619, or just disable that rerouting, it might not even be on by default [10:54] and make sure the system isn't trying to suppress them in the first place [10:54] HAHA! speaking of vTTYs... there the onboard speaker actually works! [10:55] also maybe alsa had a "beeper" that intercepts them [10:55] jeez I'm stupid, could've tried that before, since i enabled pcspkr... [10:55] mat619, then it's probably console intercepting it [10:55] mat619, try xterm or something [10:55] and if it works there then it's almost certainly konsole [10:56] nfk: it's ok if the script runs on a vtty, switching from ctrl+alt+f7 to i. e. f2 and back isn't that much of a hassle, really - I hope I rarely have to watch another gateway become unavailable anyway [10:57] Hi. I have a bit of a problem, maybe someone here could help me with it. [10:57] !anyone [10:57] A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll. [10:57] we've had our fair share of construction equipment ripping copper and fibre channel cables apart this year... even for the next three years in advance I guess [10:57] mat619, btw, if the tty of your choice and x11 have different users then the active one will get access to the real sound hardware [10:57] I have, on sda1, kubuntu 12.04 that I've upgraded from 11.something months ago, and it works fine [10:57] nfk: I'm logged in on both [10:57] that is, consolekit sets the user of the active seat as the user for /dev/snd/* nodes [10:58] on sda2 I have just installed kubuntu 12.04 from newly downloaded official iso [10:58] it shouldn't affect the pc speaker of course [10:59] and in the new system my monitor turns off spontaneously, regardless whether I'm doing anything at the moment or not [11:00] and it won't start until I completely power off and then power on the computer [11:00] all energy-saving and screensaving stuff are turned off too [11:01] doesn't sound terribly fun [11:01] could you use kubuntu and forget about ubuntu? [11:01] Kubuntu 12.04LTS using both LiveDVD, and HDD install crashes minutes after loading the desktop. mouse freezes, then black screen. I've checked power supply, hard drives (all), DVD drive, RAM, USB ports, and changed video cards. Any idea what might be causing this issue? [11:01] wait [11:01] sorry [11:01] both are kubuntu [11:01] :psyduck: [11:01] yup [11:02] nfk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [11:02] in theory they should work exactly the same [11:02] anqxyr, start by comparing video drivers, i guess === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:03] and for good measure also if uname -a is the same [11:04] anqxyr, what video driver and video hardware do you have? [11:05] wait a moment, let me check [11:06] ah, so you didn't build it yourself [11:07] I did, but it was years ago and stopped caring and forgot the specs since then [11:07] video card is Radeon HD 4850 [11:09] and what is the easiest way to check what the current drivers are? [11:14] anqxyr, hmm.. [11:14] i suppose lspci -k might do the trick [11:15] anqxyr, though you might also need to take a look at /var/log/X.0.log to make sure what x11 part of driver is used [11:15] eerr [11:16] /var/log/Xorg.0.log [11:17] yeah, I know, I was looking at it already, I just can't figure out what the results mean [11:17] it loads vesa, but it also loads ati and radeon [11:17] it can't use several drivers simultaneously, can it? [11:18] lspci says that the kernel driver in use is fglrx_pci, and I'm not sure that it is even a video driver [11:20] fglrx is ati video [11:21] oh, good, that clarifies it a bit [11:22] I think I'll just save everything it says, then reboot into the new system and see if there is anything different [11:22] thanks for the help === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [11:25] hateball, fglrx is the proprietary driver [11:25] nfk: Not saying otherwise [11:25] ati and radeon both sound like the open source drivers but i might be wrong [11:26] hateball, you implied it goes hand in hand with ati while from what i recall that's a name of an xf86 open source driver (not the current gallium type radeon) [11:26] well, radeon has both gallium and classic of course [11:34] Kubuntu 12.04LTS using both LiveDVD, and HDD install crashes minutes after loading the desktop. mouse freezes, then black screen. I've checked power supply, hard drives (all), DVD drive, RAM, USB ports, and changed video cards. Any idea what might be causing this issue? [11:40] Whiz2: you mean you get normal graphical interface up and running nicely until at some point it freezes? [11:41] susundberg yes within only a few minutes of active use, it freezes and the monitor goes into a power saving state [11:42] i have to hold the power button or flip the switch on the power supply to turn off the system at that point [11:42] sounds very weird. other OS's have worked fine with the same hardware i guess? [11:42] last OS before this was Windows XP pro SP3 which had no issues [11:43] as far as I am aware there had been no other OS on the system before XP [11:43] i would guess for graphical driver bug but thats just longshot [11:43] well i'm about to the point i'm ready to swap out the motherboard for an older all-in-one board that I've had sitting around... lotta work, but I'd like to make the system work [11:45] the only error i've ever seen was when i presed the power button for only a moment. the screen came back on, system tried to shut down and I always got an I/O init failure on the hard drive (no matter which IDE channel) [11:46] and doesn't matter which of the 3 hard drives i use on which slot. still same result. I thought it might be graphics, but changing out the card for a different one didn't resolve the issue [11:51] susundberg: would it use the same graphics drivers for 3 different cards? [11:53] Whiz2: it might if thay are all from say nvidia [11:53] hang on i will see what they are [11:53] Whiz2: you could also try to use some other distro livecd and see if its stable [11:53] ram checking you have made with memcheck i guess? [11:54] if the HD would be failing then it would still not power down the display afaik [11:54] or it might be some other card that you have attached that is causing troubles -- making kernel to crash [11:54] like wireless card or so [11:55] ram checking was with memtest during grub boot for nearly 5 hours, and no errors. Hard drive is not the cause for sure. and wireless is USB [11:56] no other cards in the system [11:59] looks like the videocards are all ATI. With one of them, even the liveDVD wouldn't get past the initial splash screen (before the window pops up to try or install) even after an hour [12:02] i would suggest first trying without wireless, if no help, google for the cards and known problems [12:04] i'll try without the wireless and if it crashes again, i think i will just swap out the mainboard and be done with it lol === cryptfu_ is now known as Guest85189 [12:32] howto suspend 2 disk in kubuntu 12.04 ? [12:47] rethus: click on the K menu, and choose system settings. From there, go into power management. if there is anot a check in the box for "Suspend Session" place one there and a drop down menu will appear on the right. Click on that and tell me if you see "Hibernate" in the list of options. [12:50] but suspend session is not 2disk ? [12:50] If hibernate is in that drop down menu, then yes it is. it will suspend your session to disk, and when you boot your system, it should prompt you to login and then return you to where you left off [12:51] similar to the hibernate feature of windows [12:52] re [12:52] k, isn't what i need [12:52] i need a complete turn off of the pc [12:52] suspend2disk [12:52] hibernate will do that. hibernate saves your session to the hard drive then powers off your computer [12:53] i have try sudo pm-hibernate [12:53] pc doesn't going realy down [12:54] do some work... but don't turn of... [12:54] is there a log for it, so i could see whats wrong? [12:54] are you running from a hard drive, or from a live CD/DVD? [12:54] hss [12:54] hdd [12:54] hmmm as far as logs, I can't help you with that. [12:56] give me a moment, let me restart my kubuntu computer (not this one) and I will see if mine works like what you're asking about [12:56] k. don't wonder if i'm off between... cause i keep on trying here :) [12:56] will come back soon than... only in minutes [12:56] no worries [12:57] Hi all [12:57] morning [12:58] rethus: /var/log/pm-suspend.log has the logs for suspend and hibernate === mck182_ is now known as mck182 [13:03] idk i had some trouble with that but i just reinstalled so i reboot fast now [13:04] i realy had to reformat [13:04] and i got rid of win7 pro so i got my space back [13:05] turns out win7 kills your hdd pretty good [13:05] yeah windows 7 requires a good deal of hard disk space [13:06] goodtime, I'm running W7 dual boot on one of my drives without any trouble [13:06] yeah screw that ill find or make some cool games instead [13:06] i was [13:06] then [13:06] things went wrong real fast [13:06] !enter [13:06] Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [13:06] yeah i was all happy bootin good [13:07] which did you install first? windows 7 or Kubuntu? [13:07] then i tryed unetbootin to get backtrack5 [13:07] lol what a mess [13:08] lets just say i reinstalled and everything is peachy [13:08] im running ubuntu12.04 with a kde plasma gui [13:08] ok, but just like BluesKaj, I ran a windows 7/Kubuntu dual boot without issues [13:08] smooth once again [13:09] theres should be no issues [13:09] goodtime, are you here to ask a question or just comment about W7? [13:09] grub is updated and win7 is ok but i just didnt have any luck i guess [13:10] no no im saying that im running better without it now [13:10] BluesKaj: [13:10] im a linux guy belive me [13:10] i hate win7 [13:11] there's probably a channel for that topic [13:11] but i need it for other reasons so ill just get some chear pc for that [13:11] agreed. i don't think this is the place to talk about that, unless you want assistance with the dual booting issues [13:11] sorry if im off topic [13:12] Hmmm when I choose hibernate on my system all it does is lock it. Doesn't suspend it to disk. oh well... [13:13] no im here to support linux based questions and maybe get some linux based answers is i need [13:13] even boot repair will sometimes fail to restore the the W7 mbr and grub , but the tutorials on the net are mostly accurate, for grub restore [13:13] fi i need* [13:13] if* [13:13] sorry [13:13] using the live cd [13:13] generally if you install linux after windows 7, there is no issue [13:18] yeah install linux first [13:18] if you install win7 you wont get in [13:18] i never did anyhow [13:19] no... install windows first, then linux, because windows overwrites the GRUB MBR, but when you install windows first, and then install linux after, GRUB will add your windows install to the list of operating systems automatically [13:19] re [13:19] k, seems to work now [13:19] you should get the partition manager to install how much space you want to install the os [13:20] now i only need a way to hibernate if i have inactivvity > 1 hour. [13:20] where can i set this? [13:20] should be easy [13:20] its mutipil choice [13:21] rethus: should find the option under System Settings -> Power Management [13:21] goodtime: where can i set it? [13:21] rethus: click on the K menu, go to System settings, click on Power Management. Place a check in the "Suspend Session" box and from the drop down menu, choose "Hibernate" and set the timer for 60 minutes. [13:21] hi, quassel package appears to be broken now, I started it with default settings but it still displays "%1" instead of nick in the /whois at times [13:21] (first and last lines of whois) [13:22] k. i'll try it [13:22] good luck [13:23] whiz2: but in german i only have suspend, shutdown and screenlock [13:23] lol havent even finished entering my name and password and the installer is already done copying (SSD POWER! :D) [13:24] (does this happen to other folk with quassel on 12.04?) [13:25] i only use pidgin [13:27] rethus then I'm sorry I don't know. I'm in the USA, so I don't know anything about German systems. [13:28] I#ll try and see [13:39] ciao [13:39] !list [13:39] siro: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ». === pjoe_afk is now known as pjoe [13:58] my issue has been resolved. it was the particular wireless USB adapter I was using. [14:06] Whiz2, yes some USB wifi adapters can be difficult to configure on Linux [14:11] BluesKaj: the hardware was automatically configured by the system, but after a few minutes it would hang the entire system. [14:11] and what was your solution , Whiz2 [14:12] ? [14:12] switching to a different USB wifi adapter brand/model seems to have resolved the issue. [14:12] ok :) [14:13] which tells me either kubuntu 12.04LTS doesn't like that brand/model, or there is a actual issue with that particul piece of hardware [14:15] Whiz2, which adapter was it ? [14:16] the problem adapter was Linksys compact wireless-G usb network adapter with Speedboost WUSB54GSC [14:17] did you find out which driver was needed Whiz2 ? [14:19] i didn't even see which driver it used. linux configured the drivers automatically [14:23] haha [14:24] yra lietuviu ? [14:24] Whiz2, no I mean the problematic adapter === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 === sazary_ is now known as sazary [15:12] BluesKaj: The problem adapter is the one i'm talking about. Linux setup the drivers on it's own. I dunno much about drivers on linux. I'm still learning [15:13] most of just google the name and model number driver [15:13] Whiz2,^ [15:14] Usually vendor:device code is extremely useful [15:14] for linux thay is [15:14] yeah genii-around , good point I forgot about that [15:20] hmmm i added a line to fstab as follows: LABEL=Web /media/Web ext4 default 0 2 but during bootup i got an error and it didn't mount. I did this following info in the man pages for fstab, and mount so i'm confused on why it failed. before i could open it in dolphin and it would mount on it's own, but i'd rather it mount on boot. did i do something wrong? [15:22] to further this, i try to mount it like before in Dolphine now and i get the error that only root can mount that device [15:23] perhaps default should be "defaults" [15:23] not "default" [15:23] Whiz2: ^^ [15:23] hmmm ok then the man pages have a typo. i'll try that [15:24] WAIT [15:24] actually my 3rd device also has "default" and it mounted just fine [15:24] you forgot the device [15:24] you didnt include what you are mounting, only the mountpoint and label [15:24] no... the man pages specify that you can use LABEL-