[00:02] <danielbot> hi... there are many folks out on the net wondering why kubuntu sound works, except for video playback, I'm one of them
[00:02] <danielbot> I think this situation started around ubuntu 10.10
[00:17] <danielbot> in other words, mpg321 has sound, mplayer doesn't
[01:02] <JNutts> Hi. I'm having an issue getting the kubuntu installer to run. I boot into the cd and select "start kubuntu." At this point the system will go to a black screen with a flashing cursor. After about 5 minutes the cd stops spinning. Nothing will happen from this point on. Any advice?
[01:03] <JNutts> Trying to install 12.04
[01:04] <danielbot> jhutts, I usually install normal ubuntu from CD, then apt-get install kubuntu-full
[01:05] <JNutts> danielbot : i'll have to try that then. thanks!
[01:06] <danielbot> you can be pretty sure that once your ubuntu is up and running, installing kubuntu is easy
[01:07] <danielbot> and that way you get to enjoy gnome for a short time also :)
[02:22] <RadSurfer> in Dolphin, Folders is showing hidden .folders, is there a way to turn that OFF?
[02:23] <RadSurfer> doh! right-click on USER ... lol
[02:23] <RadSurfer> or HOME folder
[03:56] <Leakout> wow
[03:56] <Leakout> anyone here?
[03:56] <Leakout> say something?
[03:57] <Leakout> hey
[03:57] <Leakout> say something?
[04:46] <MerlynKorr> is there a way to obtain a channel list here?
[04:46] <MikeFair> what app are you using
[04:47] <MerlynKorr> Quassel IRC
[04:48] <MikeFair> Right Click on Kubuntu IRC -> Show Channel List
[04:48] <MikeFair> click "Show Channels"
[04:48] <MikeFair> otherwise the generic IRC command is /list but you really don't want to use that
[08:29] <lordievader> Good morning
[08:42] <Qantourisc> What network manager does Kubuntu us ?
[08:42] <Qantourisc> *use
[09:26] <bacso_edina> hali
[09:27] <bacso_edina> ubuntu-ra kubuntu-t tudnék rakni úgy hogy a progik megmaradjanak?
[09:27] <hateball> !hu
[09:28] <bacso_edina> srry
[09:28] <hateball> :)
[09:28] <bacso_edina> thx bye :D
[09:33] <mat619> Hey folks. I'm currently trying to implement a little script that pings the gateways of all our company's establishments and rings the system bell if one fails to respond, since we have a lot of network provider issues lately
[09:34] <mat619> Kubuntu 12.04 doesn't seem to have an audible system bell though - echo -e "\a" doesn't make any sound. How can I fix that?
[09:34] <mat619> i already removed pcspkr from the module blacklist and manually loaded it, didn't help
[09:35] <hateball> mat619: Are you running the script in Konsole?
[09:36] <hateball> mat619: Because then you need to "customize notifications" and set the bell to some alert you like
[09:37] <hateball> by default I think it will only show a popup notification, in a focused window
[10:00] <Riddell> mat619: you can install sox and use the "play" command
[10:16] <ramchandra> I use pacat /dev/urandom to have **really** irritating bell
[10:16] <ramchandra> it sometimes makes your heart skip a beat even
[10:26] <grvrulz> hello all
[10:26] <grvrulz> I accidentally deleted my home partition while trying to install androidx86, and now i cant log in
[10:28] <grvrulz> can anyone help?
[10:44] <mat619> hateball: sorry, been afk - that sheds some light in the dark, thx for the tip
[10:44] <nfk> if i want to install on lvm2, i need the alt cd, correct?
[10:44] <mat619> just found out that my system doesn't play any sound at all anymore since I swapped the graphic card and set the default sound device to HDMI output, as intended
[10:45] <hateball> hehe
[10:46] <mat619> nice. really nice. *rolling eyes*
[10:47] <mat619> ok, so gotta fix that first. any idea what's going on? I've set HDMI as default output for all categories in the phonon control module
[10:47] <mat619> no sound output whatsoever though
[10:48] <nfk> mat619, uh... it's doable is the only thing i can say off the bat
[10:48] <nfk> it depends on both video driver having support for it and alsa/pulseaudio not messing up
[10:49] <nfk> i reckon you should start with finding how well does your video driver support audio over hdmi
[10:49] <nfk> and if it should support it then look into pulseaudio's hdmi support or something
[10:49] <hateball> mat619: I've only played a tiny bit with HDMI with my intel system, and it refuses to play sound unless I also send the video over hdmi
[10:50] <mat619> hateball: oh. that's bad. since I don't have any other sound card in this system (not even onboard, since it's a server hardware based system)
[10:50] <nfk> mat619, okay, i remembered a bit, you might have to write a custom profile for pulseaudio
[10:50] <hateball> Well I'm not saying it can't be done
[10:50] <nfk> there should be some docs on that but i'm sort of bussy
[10:50] <hateball> Just... yeah
[10:50] <nfk> *busy
[10:51] <mat619> nfk: it's a GeForce 210 runnin on the default open source nvidia driver (nouveau, was it?)
[10:51] <nfk> yes
[10:51] <nfk> mat619, i don't know how well nouveau supports this
[10:51] <mat619> nfk: k, will read a bit... thanks.
[10:51] <nfk> also kubuntu might have some silly old version of nouveau
[10:51] <nfk> mat619, try asking in #nouveau maybe
[10:51] <mat619> the onboard speaker would be fine too, though, if it's usable
[10:52] <mat619> for now all I need is the system to make some noise if any gateway goes down
[10:52] <nfk> mat619, then set the onboard sound adapter as default in phonon
[10:52] <nfk> and if that doesn't help, try installing pavucontrol
[10:52] <nfk> or was it pavucontroller?
[10:52] <mat619> can't monitor a ping script all the time, and am not always sitting in front of the computer
[10:53] <hateball> How come you don't set up nagios or something instead?
[10:53] <mat619> nfk: no, I don't mean the onboard sound card - this system doesn't have one. i mean the plain old system beeper
[10:53] <nfk> mat619, that's probably not handled by pulseaudio
[10:53] <mat619> hateball: we have nagios running, but in another subnet, and setting up two separate systems would be overkill
[10:53] <nfk> mat619, konsole has a way to route that to the real sound system, tho
[10:54] <nfk> but it's a separate thing from what i remember
[10:54] <mat619> nfk: well I could still run the script on one of the vttys then I guess
[10:54] <nfk> mat619, or just disable that rerouting, it might not even be on by default
[10:54] <nfk> and make sure the system isn't trying to suppress them in the first place
[10:54] <mat619> HAHA! speaking of vTTYs... there the onboard speaker actually works!
[10:55] <nfk> also maybe alsa had a "beeper" that intercepts them
[10:55] <mat619> jeez I'm stupid, could've tried that before, since i enabled pcspkr...
[10:55] <nfk> mat619, then it's probably console intercepting it
[10:55] <nfk> mat619, try xterm or something
[10:55] <nfk> and if it works there then it's almost certainly konsole
[10:56] <mat619> nfk: it's ok if the script runs on a vtty, switching from ctrl+alt+f7 to i. e. f2 and back isn't that much of a hassle, really - I hope I rarely have to watch another gateway become unavailable anyway
[10:57] <anqxyr> Hi. I have a bit of a problem, maybe someone here could help me with it.
[10:57] <hateball> !anyone
[10:57] <mat619> we've had our fair share of construction equipment ripping copper and fibre channel cables apart this year... even for the next three years in advance I guess
[10:57] <nfk> mat619, btw, if the tty of your choice and x11 have different users then the active one will get access to the real sound hardware
[10:57] <anqxyr> I have, on sda1, kubuntu 12.04 that I've upgraded from 11.something months ago, and it works fine
[10:57] <mat619> nfk: I'm logged in on both
[10:57] <nfk> that is, consolekit sets the user of the active seat as the user for /dev/snd/* nodes
[10:58] <anqxyr> on sda2 I have just installed kubuntu 12.04 from newly downloaded official iso
[10:58] <nfk> it shouldn't affect the pc speaker of course
[10:59] <anqxyr> and in the new system my monitor turns off spontaneously, regardless whether I'm doing anything at the moment or not
[11:00] <anqxyr> and it won't start until I completely power off and then power on the computer
[11:00] <anqxyr> all energy-saving and screensaving stuff are turned off too
[11:01] <nfk> doesn't sound terribly fun
[11:01] <nfk> could you use kubuntu and forget about ubuntu?
[11:01] <Whiz2> Kubuntu 12.04LTS using both LiveDVD, and HDD install crashes minutes after loading the desktop. mouse freezes, then black screen. I've checked power supply, hard drives (all), DVD drive, RAM, USB ports, and changed video cards. Any idea what might be causing this issue?
[11:01] <nfk> wait
[11:01] <nfk> sorry
[11:01] <nfk> both are kubuntu
[11:01] <nfk> :psyduck:
[11:01] <anqxyr> yup
[11:02] <FloodBotK1> nfk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:02] <anqxyr> in theory they should work exactly the same
[11:02] <nfk> anqxyr, start by comparing video drivers, i guess
[11:03] <nfk> and for good measure also if uname -a is the same
[11:04] <nfk> anqxyr, what video driver and video hardware do you have?
[11:05] <anqxyr> wait a moment, let me check
[11:06] <nfk> ah, so you didn't build it yourself
[11:07] <anqxyr> I did, but it was years ago and stopped caring and forgot the specs since then
[11:07] <anqxyr> video card is Radeon HD 4850
[11:09] <anqxyr> and what is the easiest way to check what the current drivers are?
[11:14] <nfk> anqxyr, hmm..
[11:14] <nfk> i suppose lspci -k might do the trick
[11:15] <nfk> anqxyr, though you might also need to take a look at /var/log/X.0.log to make sure what x11 part of driver is used
[11:15] <nfk> eerr
[11:16] <nfk> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:17] <anqxyr> yeah, I know, I was looking at it already, I just can't figure out what the results mean
[11:17] <anqxyr> it loads vesa, but it also loads ati and radeon
[11:17] <anqxyr> it can't use several drivers simultaneously, can it?
[11:18] <anqxyr> lspci says that the kernel driver in use is fglrx_pci, and I'm not sure that it is even a video driver
[11:20] <hateball> fglrx is ati video
[11:21] <anqxyr> oh, good, that clarifies it a bit
[11:22] <anqxyr> I think I'll just save everything it says, then reboot into the new system and see if there is anything different
[11:22] <anqxyr> thanks for the help
[11:25] <nfk> hateball, fglrx is the proprietary driver
[11:25] <hateball> nfk: Not saying otherwise
[11:25] <nfk> ati and radeon both sound like the open source drivers but i might be wrong
[11:26] <nfk> hateball, you implied it goes hand in hand with ati while from what i recall that's a name of an xf86 open source driver (not the current gallium type radeon)
[11:26] <nfk> well, radeon has both gallium and classic of course
[11:34] <Whiz2> Kubuntu 12.04LTS using both LiveDVD, and HDD install crashes minutes after loading the desktop. mouse freezes, then black screen. I've checked power supply, hard drives (all), DVD drive, RAM, USB ports, and changed video cards. Any idea what might be causing this issue?
[11:40] <susundberg> Whiz2: you mean you get normal graphical interface up and running nicely until at some point it freezes?
[11:41] <Whiz2> susundberg yes within only a few minutes of active use, it freezes and the monitor goes into a power saving state
[11:42] <Whiz2> i have to hold the power button or flip the switch on the power supply to turn off the system at that point
[11:42] <susundberg> sounds very weird. other OS's have worked fine with the same hardware i guess?
[11:42] <Whiz2> last OS before this was Windows XP pro SP3 which had no issues
[11:43] <Whiz2> as far as I am aware there had been no other OS on the system before XP
[11:43] <susundberg> i would guess for graphical driver bug but thats just longshot
[11:43] <Whiz2> well i'm about to the point i'm ready to swap out the motherboard for an older all-in-one board that I've had sitting around... lotta work, but I'd like to make the system work
[11:45] <Whiz2> the only error i've ever seen was when i presed the power button for only a moment. the screen came back on, system tried to shut down and I always got an I/O init failure on the hard drive (no matter which IDE channel)
[11:46] <Whiz2> and doesn't matter which of the 3 hard drives i use on which slot. still same result. I thought it might be graphics, but changing out the card for a different one didn't resolve the issue
[11:51] <Whiz2> susundberg: would it use the same graphics drivers for 3 different cards?
[11:53] <susundberg> Whiz2: it might if thay are all from say nvidia
[11:53] <Whiz2> hang on i will see what they are
[11:53] <susundberg> Whiz2: you could also try to use some other distro livecd and see if its stable
[11:53] <susundberg> ram checking you have made with memcheck i guess?
[11:54] <susundberg> if the HD would be failing then it would still not power down the display afaik
[11:54] <susundberg> or it might be some other card that you have attached that is causing troubles -- making kernel to crash
[11:54] <susundberg> like wireless card or so
[11:55] <Whiz2> ram checking was with memtest during grub boot for nearly 5 hours, and no errors. Hard drive is not the cause for sure. and wireless is USB
[11:56] <Whiz2> no other cards in the system
[11:59] <Whiz2> looks like the videocards are all ATI. With one of them, even the liveDVD wouldn't get past the initial splash screen (before the window pops up to try or install) even after an hour
[12:02] <susundberg> i would suggest first trying without wireless, if no help, google for the cards and known problems
[12:04] <Whiz2> i'll try without the wireless and if it crashes again, i think i will just swap out the mainboard and be done with it lol
[12:32] <rethus> howto suspend 2 disk in kubuntu 12.04 ?
[12:47] <Whiz2> rethus: click on the K menu, and choose system settings. From there, go into power management. if there is anot a check in the box for "Suspend Session" place one there and a drop down menu will appear on the right. Click on that and tell me if you see "Hibernate" in the list of options.
[12:50] <rethus> but suspend session is not 2disk ?
[12:50] <Whiz2> If hibernate is in that drop down menu, then yes it is. it will suspend your session to disk, and when you boot your system, it should prompt you to login and then return you to where you left off
[12:51] <Whiz2> similar to the hibernate feature of windows
[12:52] <rethus> re
[12:52] <rethus> k, isn't what i need
[12:52] <rethus> i need a complete turn off of the pc
[12:52] <rethus> suspend2disk
[12:52] <Whiz2> hibernate will do that. hibernate saves your session to the hard drive then powers off your computer
[12:53] <rethus> i have try sudo pm-hibernate
[12:53] <rethus> pc doesn't going realy down
[12:54] <rethus> do some work... but don't turn of...
[12:54] <rethus> is there a log for it, so i could see whats wrong?
[12:54] <Whiz2> are you running from a hard drive, or from a live CD/DVD?
[12:54] <rethus> hss
[12:54] <rethus> hdd
[12:54] <Whiz2> hmmm as far as logs, I can't help you with that.
[12:56] <Whiz2> give me a moment, let me restart my kubuntu computer (not this one) and I will see if mine works like what you're asking about
[12:56] <rethus> k. don't wonder if i'm off between... cause i keep on trying here :)
[12:56] <rethus> will come back soon than... only in minutes
[12:56] <Whiz2> no worries
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:57] <Whiz2> morning
[12:58] <SIR_Taco> rethus: /var/log/pm-suspend.log has the logs for suspend and hibernate
[13:03] <goodtime> idk i had some trouble with that but i just reinstalled so i reboot fast now
[13:04] <goodtime> i realy had to reformat
[13:04] <goodtime> and i got rid of win7 pro so i got my space back
[13:05] <goodtime> turns out win7 kills your hdd pretty good
[13:05] <Whiz2> yeah windows 7 requires a good deal of hard disk space
[13:06] <BluesKaj> goodtime, I'm running W7 dual boot on one of my drives without any trouble
[13:06] <goodtime> yeah screw that ill find or make some cool games instead
[13:06] <goodtime> i was
[13:06] <goodtime> then
[13:06] <goodtime> things went wrong real fast
[13:06] <BluesKaj> !enter
[13:06] <goodtime> yeah i was all happy bootin good
[13:07] <Whiz2> which did you install first? windows 7 or Kubuntu?
[13:07] <goodtime> then i tryed unetbootin to get backtrack5
[13:07] <goodtime> lol what a mess
[13:08] <goodtime> lets just say i reinstalled and everything is peachy
[13:08] <goodtime> im running ubuntu12.04 with a kde plasma gui
[13:08] <Whiz2> ok, but just like BluesKaj, I ran a windows 7/Kubuntu dual boot without issues
[13:08] <goodtime> smooth once again
[13:09] <goodtime> theres should be no issues
[13:09] <BluesKaj> goodtime, are you here to ask a question or just comment about W7?
[13:09] <goodtime> grub is updated and win7 is ok but i just didnt have any luck i guess
[13:10] <goodtime> no no im saying that im running better without it now
[13:10] <goodtime> BluesKaj:
[13:10] <goodtime> im a linux guy belive me
[13:10] <goodtime> i hate win7
[13:11] <SIR_Taco> there's probably a channel for that topic
[13:11] <goodtime> but i need it for other reasons so ill just get some chear pc for that
[13:11] <Whiz2> agreed. i don't think this is the place to talk about that, unless you want assistance with the dual booting issues
[13:11] <goodtime> sorry if im off topic
[13:12] <Whiz2> Hmmm when I choose hibernate on my system all it does is lock it. Doesn't suspend it to disk. oh well...
[13:13] <goodtime> no im here to support linux based questions and maybe get some linux based answers is i need
[13:13] <BluesKaj> even boot repair will sometimes fail to restore the the W7 mbr and grub , but the tutorials on the net are mostly accurate, for grub restore
[13:13] <goodtime> fi i need*
[13:13] <goodtime> if*
[13:13] <goodtime> sorry
[13:13] <BluesKaj> using the live cd
[13:13] <Whiz2> generally if you install linux after windows 7, there is no issue
[13:18] <goodtime> yeah install linux first
[13:18] <goodtime> if you install win7 you wont get in
[13:18] <goodtime> i never did anyhow
[13:19] <Whiz2> no... install windows first, then linux, because windows overwrites the GRUB MBR, but when you install windows first, and then install linux after, GRUB will add your windows install to the list of operating systems automatically
[13:19] <rethus> re
[13:19] <rethus> k, seems to work now
[13:19] <goodtime> you should get the partition manager to install how much space you want to install the os
[13:20] <rethus> now i only need a way to hibernate if i have inactivvity > 1 hour.
[13:20] <rethus> where can i set this?
[13:20] <goodtime> should be easy
[13:20] <goodtime> its mutipil choice
[13:21] <SIR_Taco> rethus: should find the option under System Settings -> Power Management
[13:21] <rethus> goodtime: where can i set it?
[13:21] <Whiz2> rethus: click on the K menu, go to System settings, click on Power Management. Place a check in the "Suspend Session" box and from the drop down menu, choose "Hibernate" and set the timer for 60 minutes.
[13:21] <gry> hi, quassel package appears to be broken now, I started it with default settings but it still displays "%1" instead of nick in the /whois at times
[13:21] <gry> (first and last lines of whois)
[13:22] <rethus> k. i'll try it
[13:22] <goodtime> good luck
[13:23] <rethus> whiz2: but in german i only have suspend, shutdown and screenlock
[13:23] <kbroulik> lol havent even finished entering my name and password and the installer is already done copying (SSD POWER! :D)
[13:24] <gry> (does this happen to other folk with quassel on 12.04?)
[13:25] <rethus> i only use pidgin
[13:27] <Whiz2> rethus then I'm sorry I don't know. I'm in the USA, so I don't know anything about German systems.
[13:28] <rethus> I#ll try and see
[13:39] <siro> ciao
[13:39] <siro> !list
[13:58] <Whiz2> my issue has been resolved. it was the particular wireless USB adapter I was using.
[14:06] <BluesKaj> Whiz2, yes some USB wifi adapters can be difficult to configure on Linux
[14:11] <Whiz2> BluesKaj: the hardware was automatically configured by the system, but after a few minutes it would hang the entire system.
[14:11] <BluesKaj> and what was your solution , Whiz2
[14:12] <BluesKaj> ?
[14:12] <Whiz2> switching to a different USB wifi adapter brand/model seems to have resolved the issue.
[14:12] <BluesKaj> ok :)
[14:13] <Whiz2> which tells me either kubuntu 12.04LTS doesn't like that brand/model, or there is a actual issue with that particul piece of hardware
[14:15] <BluesKaj> Whiz2, which adapter was it ?
[14:16] <Whiz2> the problem adapter was Linksys compact wireless-G usb network adapter with Speedboost WUSB54GSC
[14:17] <BluesKaj> did you find out which driver was needed Whiz2 ?
[14:19] <Whiz2> i didn't even see which driver it used. linux configured the drivers automatically
[14:23] <naujokellis> haha
[14:24] <naujokellis> yra lietuviu ?
[14:24] <BluesKaj> Whiz2, no I mean the problematic adapter
[15:12] <Whiz2> BluesKaj: The problem adapter is the one i'm talking about. Linux setup the drivers on it's own. I dunno much about drivers on linux. I'm still learning
[15:13] <BluesKaj> most of just google the name and model number driver
[15:13] <BluesKaj> Whiz2,^
[15:14] <genii-around> Usually vendor:device  code is extremely useful
[15:14] <BluesKaj> for linux thay is
[15:14] <BluesKaj> yeah genii-around , good point I forgot about that
[15:20] <Whiz2> hmmm i added a line to fstab as follows: LABEL=Web /media/Web ext4 default 0 2 but during bootup i got an error and it didn't mount. I did this following info in the man pages for fstab, and mount so i'm confused on why it failed. before i could open it in dolphin and it would mount on it's own, but i'd rather it mount on boot. did i do something wrong?
[15:22] <Whiz2> to further this, i try to mount it like before in Dolphine now and i get the error that only root can mount that device
[15:23] <phunyguy_work> perhaps default should be "defaults"
[15:23] <phunyguy_work> not "default"
[15:23] <phunyguy_work> Whiz2: ^^
[15:23] <Whiz2> hmmm ok then the man pages have a typo. i'll try that
[15:24] <phunyguy_work> WAIT
[15:24] <Whiz2> actually my 3rd device also has "default" and it mounted just fine
[15:24] <phunyguy_work> you forgot the device
[15:24] <phunyguy_work> you didnt include what you are mounting, only the mountpoint and label
[15:24] <Whiz2> no... the man pages specify that you can use LABEL-<label> in place of dev
[15:25] <phunyguy_work> really...?
[15:25] <Whiz2> sorry LABEL=<label>
[15:25] <Whiz2> yes
[15:25] <phunyguy_work> interesting
[15:25] <genii-around> Is the volume name of the drive "Web" ?
[15:25] <Whiz2> yes that's how it shows in the partition manager
[15:26] <genii-around> Hm. Probably I'd use the UUID instead
[15:26] <Whiz2> i don't know the UUID
[15:26] <genii-around> sudo blkid    should tell you
[15:26] <Whiz2> I'm going to test something... gonna comment it out then reboot and try with dolphin again
[15:27] <phunyguy_work> that will work
[15:27] <phunyguy_work> i promise
[15:27] <phunyguy_work> lol
[15:27] <Whiz2> uh oh... my earlier problem has surfaced again :(
[15:29] <Whiz2> looks like i'm going to have to just swap out the mainboard to solve my hanging issue from earlier
[15:29] <phunyguy_work> hmmm mine mounted fine with LABEL=<label> - but that is just a manual mount -a, not a reboot
[15:30] <Whiz2> give me a bit to swap mainboards and i will boot up and test my theory again lol
[15:42] <compaq> hi can anyone tell me how to adjust the sound system is hdmi, video card my ati radeon Mobility HD 4250 HD driver is installed it works PERFECT now, but no settings of multimedia-channel HD and the sound is quite weaker than windows 7 and there was sound and HD audio in kubuntu analog duplex
[15:54] <doctorpepper> can anyone please  help me ,  i have an issue with phonon gstreamer. i have no sound . this issue hitting only on user on the system
[15:57] <BluesKaj> doctorpepper, does the prefered device list in phonon show any devices that work with the twest button , also make sure your alsmixer ctrls are all turne up and not muted (MM)
[15:57] <BluesKaj> alsamixer
[15:58] <doctorpepper> actually if i use the vlc backend everthing works fine so nothing is muted
[15:59] <BluesKaj> yeah , vlc backend is more audio format frieindly as well
[15:59] <doctorpepper> but when using gstreamer backend  none of the devices works
[16:00] <doctorpepper> and only for one user  other user dont have  this issue
[16:01] <doctorpepper> the vlc backend  has only one thing missing : support for mpris2 and nowplaying
[16:02] <doctorpepper> BluesKaj: any idea how can i fix this problem
[16:06] <doctorpepper> BluesKaj: are you here ?
[16:06] <Walzmyn> doctorpepper: I found the package "pavucontrol" (pulse audio volumn control) to help me when I was having sound issues
[16:08] <doctorpepper> Walzmyn: actually sound works fine  unless  i use gstreamer-backend and this happens only with one user on the system
[16:08] <Walzmyn> doctorpepper: yeah, this app lets you change settings for each application that's making sound, got more options than kmix/alsa sound. It might just help you find the issue - might not
[16:13] <wolf60> ciao a tutti
[16:13] <wolf60> !list
[16:21] <Promethes> how to connect to webdav using dolphin? i am trying to connect to my owncloud, trying to add network folder->webdav, i filled all the fields and nothing. Anyone?
[16:23] <doctorpepper> Walzmyn:  i just switched to gstreamer backend and i get the following message "the audio playback default does not work falling back to default."
[16:25] <Korba> @Promethes just open the adress bar and fill it with something like this webdavs://webdav.example.org/
[16:26] <BluesKaj> have you set the playback device in phonon >preferred devices , and in pavucontrol as well , doctorpepper ?
[16:28] <Korba> @Promethes or terminal: sudo mount -t davfs https://webdav.example.org /mountpunkt
[16:28] <Promethes> korba: nothing happens, i see empty dolphin window, when i try to create a file dolphin gives me error 400. In firefox i can successfully go to my webdav resource
[16:29] <doctorpepper> yes
[16:30] <BluesKaj> doctorpepper, I'm on several differnt chats , if you have an answer for someone pls use his/her nick , thanks
[16:31] <doctorpepper> BluesKaj: yes
[16:32] <BluesKaj> doctorpepper, have you checked alsamixer as "user" . make sure all ctrls are up and not muted (MM)
[16:33] <BluesKaj> and what chip is listed in alsamixer , doctorpepper ?
[16:34] <doctorpepper> BluesKaj: i checked alsamixer every is at full power on alsamixer
[16:35] <doctorpepper> BluesKaj:   Card : HDA intel  chip: IDT 92HD75B2X5
[16:35] <BluesKaj> what does aplay -l  show , doctorpepper?
[16:36] <doctorpepper> BluesKaj:  card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]
[16:36] <doctorpepper>   Subdevices: 1/1
[16:36] <doctorpepper>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[16:36] <BluesKaj> doctorpepper, sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[16:37] <doctorpepper> BluesKaj:  the module is already loaded
[16:37] <BluesKaj> doctorpepper, you probly have to reboot
[16:38] <doctorpepper> i will try to reboot and get back to you
[16:38] <BluesKaj> you don't know that for sure doctorpepper , either way there's no output unless the module is incorrect
[16:38] <Shura_> Hi, I'm aware i'm probably in the wrong place for that, but is there some news about vivaldi tablet ?
[16:39] <BluesKaj> you're right , Shura_ this is the wrong room
[16:42] <Korba> Promethes try it without the webdav://webdav.example.org/ Anyway i have to go im sry
[16:42] <jussi> someon want to give me a nice short guide to using dd to back up my HDD as a i,g file to an external usb disk?
[16:42] <jussi> .img file I meant
[16:43] <genii-around> jussi: Is the hd smaller than the external disk?
[16:43] <jussi> genii-around: yep
[16:43] <doctorpepper> BluesKaj:  rebooting  did nothing
[16:44] <genii-around> jussi: Then just like: sudo dd if=/dev/sda  of=/media/usb-drive/path/filename.img     ... substitute dev names and /media paths accordingly...
[16:45] <jussi> genii-around: sure, so the whole drive thign wont include backing up the USB which is mounted in the drives file structure?
[16:47] <genii-around> jussi: No, it's not copying things inside of the file structure like links or so on, just bit-for-bit what's on /dev/sda ( or whichever drive )
[16:47] <genii-around> eg: It doesn't care about filesystem
[16:49] <genii-around> jussi: Ideally though you'd want to do this operation on an unmounted drive, since some of the data can be changing on it as you are trying to image it
[16:49] <genii-around> Work, back in 5-10
[16:50] <jussi> genii-around: ok nice. andw will I somehow be able to use this file to drop onto another PC then?
[16:59] <BluesKaj> doctorpepper, have you setup pavucontrol as someone suggested earlier ?
[17:01] <doctorpepper> BluesKaj: i have just observed  a strange thing . the user that has issue   doesnt have same configuration   as the other users . alot  of devices  are showing in systemsettings >multimedia  whereas  other user  have only one  entry  in the configuration
[17:03] <doctorpepper> BluesKaj: yes
[17:04] <BluesKaj> doctorpepper, then that person has configured the audio setup . perhaps using pavucontrol settings anf pulseaudio settings in phonon "Audio Hardware Setup" tab
[17:04] <BluesKaj> anf=and
[17:05] <doctorpepper> BluesKaj:  no  its the kubuntu default setup   created adduser
[17:06] <doctorpepper> the user that has issue  is a user  that  have been migrated  from several distros
[17:08] <genii-around> jussi: Yes, if you have another hd which is same size or larger, you can just basically use the reverse to copy it to that one. eg: sudo dd if=/media/wherever/filename.img of=/dev/sda      (as example )
[17:09] <genii-around> jussi: If the new drive is larger, you can then use gparted to adjust the size and make it take up the whole disk again, etc
[17:10] <cooper_> Hi, someone could help me please? I'm trying to sync my iPhone with Amarok. Don't why but my iPhone is mount as a camera. I found something on the web who requiere to create a *.fdi I have really no idee how I'm suppose to create it :S
[17:12] <cooper_> sorry deco :P
[17:13] <jussi> genii-around: ok, I suppose that means I have to do that operation from a live CD?
[17:16] <cooper_> Other question, how come my passeword su and sudo aren't the same? I set only one passeword when I install Kubuntu -_-
[17:18] <jussi> cooper_: su is the root password which is randomised in *ubuntu. sudo is giving your user privelidges, and there fore is your user password
[17:19] <jussi> (assuming you su to root etc)
[17:19] <cooper_> Ok i found the answer myself :P But still have the same problem. Don't know how to create a fdi file
[17:20] <jussi> cooper_: "sudo -i" will give you a root terminal.
[17:20] <cooper_> jussi : nice, thanks you :D
[17:22] <cooper_> jussi: I still cannot create a fdi file, I tried with "Kate" in etc/hal/fdi/policy but the access is denied....
[17:23] <jussi> cooper_: try sudo nano /etc/hal/fdi/policy
[17:25] <cooper_> jussi: what's the command to create a file?
[17:26] <jussi> cooper_: what file do you need to create?
[17:26] <cooper_> jussi: a fdi file
[17:26] <jussi> cooper_: which one specifically
[17:27] <cooper_> jussi: <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
[17:27] <cooper_> <deviceinfo version="0.2">
[17:27] <cooper_>   <device>
[17:27] <cooper_>     <match key="info.udi" string="$/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_5ac_12a0_77b75db9a226e63ea633c452e5311b55c4da836e_if0">
[17:27] <cooper_>        <merge key="info.ignore" type="bool">true</merge>
[17:27] <cooper_>     </match>
[17:27] <FloodBotK1> cooper_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:27] <cooper_> jussi: i was muted haha
[17:28] <cooper_> jussi: something for the iphone : info.udi
[17:28] <cooper_> jussi: can't show you in that chan, too long... I was muted :P
[17:29] <genii-around> jussi: For both operations, livecd is preferable... for making the image you can also remount the drive read-only with something like sudo mount -o remount ,ro /  ( for root filesystem as an example )
[17:29] <genii-around> ( and copy it then without being on livecd )
[17:30] <cooper_> jussi: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=978623 Is what I'm trying to do but some trouble with create a fdi file
[17:31] <genii-around> jussi: Apologies on lag, work is requiring much of my time right now
[17:32] <danielbot> Hi, my sound works but not with video. A large number of kubuntu users report this problem on the web, but without solutions. Any ideas?
[17:33] <danielbot> The issue seems to start with 10.10, and seems to be related to pulseaudio
[17:33] <danielbot> before 10.10, I had sound with my videos
[17:35] <cooper_> I have a trouble to create a fdi file. I didn't found nothing to help me on the web. Could anyone explain me how to do it? Here the tutorial I'm trying to do : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=978623
[17:40] <cooper_> Hi, someone could help me? My iphone is mount as a camera, I have really no idee how to change that.
[17:49] <coyote> s
[17:52] <genii-around> Hm
[18:01] <PtitGNU> Hi :)
[18:01] <PtitGNU> does someone can make a little test on a 12.04 x86_64 (not x86_32) ? With rekonq or konqueror, go to http://www.google.be and try to change the language (nl/fr/de/en). Does it works ? Then _disable_ the rekonq/konqueror cache and try again...
[19:11] <PtitGNU> does someone can make a little test on a 12.04 x86_64 (not x86_32) ? With rekonq or konqueror, go to http://www.google.be and try to change the language (nl/fr/de/en). Does it works ? Then _disable_ the rekonq/konqueror cache and try again...
[19:17] <jussi> genii-around: still about?
[19:17] <genii-around> jussi: Somewhat :-)
[19:18] <jussi> genii-around: If I do a whole volume rather than just a partition it still works, right?
[19:18] <jussi> ie. /dev/sda as opposed to /dev/sda1
[19:18] <genii-around> jussi: The usual way is to do the entire disk
[19:18] <jussi> genii-around: and if I have only done the one partition, is that an issue?
[19:19] <genii-around> jussi: Yes, sda is actually better than sda1
[19:19] <jussi> genii-around: Im actually swapping 2 pc's...
[19:20] <genii-around> jussi: You can't really restore just one partition that was copied ... the better thing is just to do the entire disk, then dd it back to new drive, extend the partition again after with gparted if it's larger.
[19:21] <genii-around> ( because the main partition table is at the beginning of the drive, so just getting sda1 off doesn't tell where it begins on the disk, where it ends, etc )
[19:21] <jussi> genii-around: problem is, I dont want the whole disk (ie. I dont want windows as well ;) )
[19:21] <jussi> I wonder if I can just swap the HDD's
[19:21] <jussi> hrm
[19:22] <genii-around> jussi: Probably can just swap the drives, don't see why not
[19:22] <jussi> genii-around: need to see if dell and HP put any random suprises in their laptops...
[19:42] <Whiz2> hmmm i added a line to fstab as follows: LABEL=Web /media/Web ext4 default 0 2 but during bootup i got an error and it didn't mount. I did this following info in the man pages for fstab, and mount so i'm confused on why it failed. before i could open it in dolphin and it would mount on it's own, but i'd rather it mount on boot. to further this, i try to mount it like before in Dolphine now and i get the error that only root can mount that devi
[19:52] <genii-around> Whiz2: Does the directory /media/Web exist?
[19:54] <Whiz2> genii-around: i just did some checking, and it did, so i use sudo bash and deleted it, then uncommented the line and rebooted, same error.
[19:57] <Whiz2> after reboot, /media/Web exists, even though i deleted it, but the drive is not mounted to it.
[19:57] <genii-around> Whiz2: If you use the drive's UUID instead, does that work?
[19:57] <Whiz2> how do i find the drive's UUID?
[19:58] <genii-around> Whiz2: sudo blkid
[20:00] <genii-around> Whiz2: Then you use it like: UUID=73ef1624-8922-41bd-a946-1fbe06434324  /media/Web ext4 default 0 2        in the fstab ( this is an arbitrary uuid for example purpose)
[20:00] <genii-around> Whiz2: But /media/Web  will need to pre-exist
[20:01] <genii-around> work, back in 3-5 minutes
[20:05] <Whiz2> boot time mounting for /media/Web still fails even with the UUID
[20:07] <genii-around> Whiz2: Very odd. But you can manually mount it?
[20:07] <yarinse> hi
[20:08] <Whiz2> yes as long as that line is commented out in fstab, otherwise i get a error that it can only be mounted as root
[20:08] <yarinse> ayuda con copiar home corriendo u12.04 desde un pendrive... alguien me dice como hacerlo?
[20:10] <yarinse> me da error:  splicing file : input/output error
[20:10] <Whiz2> maybe i should try the "user" option along with default?
[20:11] <genii-around> !es | yarinse
[20:12] <Whiz2> nope the user option changed nothing
[20:13] <genii-around> Whiz2: If the line is not commented out in fstab, and you do: sudo mount /media/Web                it mounts ok or chokes?
[20:14] <genii-around> Bleh, apologies but work needs me again for a bit. Will return however
[20:15] <Whiz2> it mounts successfully that way with the line active, just not at boot time... gonna test something
[20:26] <genii-around> Whiz2: Conceivably the drive is not ready for mounting until after the fstab is read. This could happen if it's driver is not loaded at that point for instance ( like usb_storage or something )
[20:27] <Whiz2> it's an internal drive. i just removed the partition and recreated it. testing to see if that fixes it
[20:31] <Whiz2> even changing persmissions of the volume to 777 didn't work...
[20:59] <Whiz2> genni-around you still abouts?
[21:00] <Whiz2> genii-around you still abouts? (correcting the name lol)
[21:22] <genii-around> Whiz2: I will be back at my computer in 5-7  minutes, just wrapping up my work right now.
[21:33]  * genii-around makes a fresh pot of coffee
[21:35] <Whiz2> genii-around you will be happy to know i've resolved the drive issue
[21:35] <genii-around> Whiz2: For completeness, what turned out to be the issue?
[21:36] <Whiz2> first step was to remove and recreate the partition. second was to change volume permissions to 777 and third was to remove the "default" option because apparently ext4 doesn't recognize that mount option
[21:37] <genii-around> Ah. So probably just the "default" likely the underlying problem.
[21:38] <Whiz2> doubt it was the original cause because originally dolphin would tell me that only root could mount it
[21:38] <Whiz2> after recreating the partition and changing permissions it still errored out and checking the log for it gave me that bit about default
[21:39] <Whiz2> dolphin gave a completely different eror the second time around
[21:39] <genii-around> Well, that is normally the case. That admin/root is needed to mount a drive, unless users is specified.
[21:39] <Whiz2> it didn't mount it even with users
[21:39] <genii-around> Whiz2: `Hm. I think is supposed to be "defaults" with an "s" at the end
[21:40] <Whiz2> "default" is a filesystem independant option, and is used for my 3rd drive which is ntfs
[21:41] <genii-around> In my fstab I have ext4 partitions being mounted with option "defaults" and not "default", and it seems to work fine. eg: UUID=07582673-e63c-4b54-822b-59714d685910 /home           ext4    defaults        0       2
[21:42] <Whiz2> then that means the man pages for fstab and mount have a typo
[21:44] <genii-around> Whiz2: I just checked them both here but in both defaults is plural and not singular
[21:44] <Whiz2> weird oh well. maybe i read it wrong then... but "default" seems to work fine for ntfs
[21:45] <genii-around> The main thing is that it's working now as expected.
[21:46] <Whiz2> :)
[21:46] <genii-around> Whiz2: If you want a particular user to be able to write on there, you should probably make a subdirectory which is recursively owned by that user
[21:48] <Whiz2> i plan on using the drive as the root of a webserver
[21:49] <Whiz2> i'm having configuration problems with apache2, but unless you wanna take that on, i don't think that is for this channel lol
[21:50] <kbroulik> how can I make kwin_gles  insteadof kwin my default window manager?
[21:50] <genii-around> Whiz2: Yeah that's probably better for #ubuntu-server or #httpd
[22:01] <genii-around> kbroulik: System Settings... Default Applications... Window Manager
[22:02] <kbroulik> genii-around: awesome! never noticed that window manager was in there as well. thanks!
[22:02] <genii-around> kbroulik: You're welcome!
[22:02] <kbroulik> genii-around: hmm that "use different window manager" is greyed out
[22:02] <kbroulik> it probably doesnt differentiate between kwin and kwin_gles?
[22:03] <genii-around> kbroulik: Mine was greyed out too until I installed kde-window-manager-gles for testing purposes, then it became an option
[22:03] <kbroulik> I am already running on it. probably need sycoca update, mom
[22:04] <kbroulik> nope didnt help
[22:04] <genii-around> Or maybe swap back to kwin, then it may become an option from there
[22:05] <genii-around> bleh, phone.
[22:05] <kbroulik> no luck :(
[22:05] <kbroulik> let me restart :)
[22:07] <kbroulik> didnt change anything
[22:11] <Torch> kbroulik: did you try update-alternatives x-window-manager?
[22:14] <genii-around> As a last resort you can manually add it to /usr/bin/startkde on line 443/444
[22:15] <genii-around> ( In that general area, anyhow )
[22:16] <kbroulik> ah, startkde says "if the KDEWM environment variable is set, it will use it as kde window manager"
[22:16] <kbroulik> so, I guess I will be setting this variable :)
[22:17] <genii-around> Yes, exactly
[23:17] <mr-rich> Ok, upgrade to 12.04 went smooth(ly) ... TV card: Pic, but no sound. Brooktree 878 (very old). Checked Phonon, alsamixer & mixer settings ...
[23:17] <mr-rich> any ideas?
[23:35] <netrunner_> Hola
[23:36] <netrunner_> es primera vez que entro, hay laguien online?
[23:37] <szal> !es | netrunner_
[23:38] <netrunner_> ok gracias
[23:39] <netrunner_> hola
[23:39] <netrunner_> es la primera vez que entro, hay alguien online?
[23:39] <szal> still no Spanish in here please
[23:41] <netrunner_> pensé que habia entrado a ubuntu en español
[23:42] <szal> that may well be the case, but you obviously didn't switch to it
[23:42] <SIR_Taco> mr-rich: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_WinTV-Go         (same chipset, has step-by-step for setting it up)
[23:44] <mr-rich> SIR_Taco: it worked fine in 11.10. have a cable hooked up to the line it on the MB ... still no sound.
[23:44]  * mr-rich sighs
[23:45]  * mr-rich needs to break open the piggy bank and buy a new TV card ...
[23:45] <SIR_Taco> mr-rich: does the following show you any results in the console?: lsmod | grep  snd-bt87x
[23:45] <mr-rich> last time all it took was un-muting the line and it worked ...
[23:46] <mr-rich> checking
[23:47] <mr-rich> SIR_Taco: that doesn't but lsmod | grep snd_bt87x does ... :)
[23:47] <SIR_Taco> mr-rich: ok, that's a good start
[23:48] <mr-rich> SIR_Taco: pic, no sound ...
[23:48] <mr-rich> dammit ... gotta go pick up the wife ... bbl
[23:48] <SIR_Taco> ok