[07:13] <alo21> hi
[07:14] <alo21> mvo: hi... can I ask you something else about Ubuntu Software Center?
[07:14] <mvo> alo21: sure
[07:14] <mvo> alo21: good morning
[07:16] <alo21> mvo: I found the describprion (called 'text'), but it is a string... I am looking for a widget such as Gtk.Label or something similat. Thanks
[07:16] <alo21> similar*
[07:18] <mvo> alo21: right, check the PangoLayout subclass there
[07:45] <alo21> mvo: I found just string type. I noticed that you used Pango to set text. I supposed this text is in widget; in which widget is it?
[07:45] <alo21> drawarea? label?
[10:35] <alo21> hi
[13:40] <brendand> as of today when i try to install a quantal server image, network autoconfiguration fails
[13:40] <brendand> tried with yesterdays image and it doesn't happen
[16:37] <intgr> Hey, there's a bug edit war going on at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1039998 ... bots?
[16:37] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1039998 in linux "perf top (linux-tools) cannot find debug info for some gstreamer plugins" [Medium,Confirmed]
[16:38] <intgr> Brad Figg (brad-figg) ... affects: affects: linux-meta (Ubuntu) → linux (Ubuntu)
[16:38] <intgr> Joseph Salisbury (jsalisbury) ... affects: linux (Ubuntu) → linux-meta (Ubuntu)
[16:38] <intgr> Repeated a few times
[16:44] <jsalisbury> intgr, yeah.  I'm going to look into it.
[16:50] <ambidextrvs> Hi, how can I log the output of the boot process in order to debug a kernel panic?
[16:51] <intgr> ambidextrvs: netconsole is one way... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Netconsole  http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/networking/netconsole.txt
[16:54] <ambidextrvs> intgr: thanks, I'll look into it.
[18:02] <tvizzle> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1039979 I think this goes to Wishlist
[18:02] <ubot2`> Ubuntu bug 1039979 in update-manager "Avoid automatic apt-get update on mobile broadland" [Undecided,New]
[18:03] <penguin42> yeh
[18:05]  * TheLordOfTime yawns
[18:06] <TheLordOfTime> i'm not certain that can be implemented
[18:06] <TheLordOfTime> here's my reasoning:
[18:06] <TheLordOfTime> How would the system interpret it to be mobile broadband?
[18:06] <TheLordOfTime> s/it/a network interface/
[18:06] <TheLordOfTime> for all intents and purposes, network traffic looks the same regardless of ethernet, wifi, or mobile broadband.
[18:06] <TheLordOfTime> tvizzle:  penguin42:  ^
[18:07] <TheLordOfTime> yes, it would be a wishlist, but i'm not certain that's even a valid "wishlist" item.
[18:08] <tvizzle> ya, i agree that the system wouldn't be able to interpret
[18:09] <TheLordOfTime> while I will set this as Wishlist and Triaged, I will add my comments accordingly.
[18:10] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: Network manager knows what it's connected to and the other apps can probably ask it
[18:11] <TheLordOfTime> penguin42:  see my additional comments on the bug
[18:11] <TheLordOfTime> i added that i'm not certain you can find out, unless networkmanager or wicd or others have system/api calls for that
[18:11] <penguin42> nod
[18:12] <TheLordOfTime> i'm not a network-manager or wicd or $given_network_management_software expert, but i do know that if such calls do not exist, then the system can't really interpret what is/isnt mobile broadband, wifi, ethernet, etc.
[18:13] <TheLordOfTime> i've marked it as wishlist/triaged.  i should *probably* see if there's an upstream project...
[18:13] <TheLordOfTime> update-manager... is that a GNOME upstream project...?
[18:13] <penguin42> TheLordOfTime: Even if there isn't already an API on network-manager for it, it doesn't seem an unreasonable thing to add
[18:14] <TheLordOfTime> indeed.
[18:14] <TheLordOfTime> that's why i didnt include the last line i had :P
[18:14] <TheLordOfTime> about it not being a valid item :P
[18:15]  * penguin42 was about to look in update-manager, but it's segging on my kubuntu install....