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TheHumanScienceanybody here familiar with initramfs?  So i was trying install 10.04 on a netbook and it got hung on 95% of the installation forever so like an impatient kid I yanked it out of the usb port.07:10
TheHumanSciencehow do i get the usb flash to install?07:10
brendandcjwatson - a while back you gave me a preseed key which you said might be necessary to make our preseeds work with the new server installer. do you have it handy?08:41
cjwatsonIt would have been something to do with live-installer/net-image08:41
cjwatsonbrendand: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/08/03/%23ubuntu-installer.html08:42
brendandcjwatson, does the positioning of the key particularly matter?08:51
cjwatsonThe order of entries in preseed files never matters.08:53
cjwatsonIt's setting a bunch of database rows, not executing a bunch of commands.08:53
babyfaceFailed to install quantal alternate iso, and I filed a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1039970   anybody has a look on it?09:09
ubot2`Ubuntu bug 1039970 in debian-installer "failed to install quantal alternate iso : xserver-xorg-video-all : Depends: xserver-xorg-video-modesetting but it is not installable" [Undecided,New]09:09
cjwatsonbabyface: it's not an installer bug when packages are uninstallable.09:14
cjwatsonThat's a package that needs to be moved to main.09:15
cjwatsonHarass the X people instead :-)09:16
xnoxev: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/7fQxmUtg-r-5i23t6FM51urGEc56OROEzDhHMfso_OU?feat=directlink09:54
xnoxev: resize widget showing only one label....09:54
evxnox: weird10:01
evI wonder what broke that10:01
xnoxev: z-order of the magical frame in gtk3? switch from VBox to simply Box?10:02
jibelxnox, bug 95948610:03
ubot2`Launchpad bug 959486 in ubiquity "install alongside doesn't show which partition is which" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/95948610:03
xnoxjibel: yeah, I am trying to fix it =) but ran out of options, so asking ev who hopefully knows more of that code =)10:03
xnoxev: the rest is acient. I did add/remove checkboxes. I also did change the logic such that it doesn't show that page if there is only one drive & it's simply fire and install.10:04
xnoxev: but it did show logo & text when it's simple use_disk.10:04
evxnox: hard to say. I'd suggest instrumenting it to make sure the PartitionBoxes are getting a decent size in ResizeWidget's do_draw10:08
evand that the image is actually getting set from the right path in PartitionBox10:08
evxnox: you shouldn't need to go through all of the installer for this10:09
evjust write a small program to create a Gtk window, stuffing the resize widget in it and wire it up10:09
xnoxok.10:09
ogra_ cjwatson xnox ... anyone an opinion on bug 1037515 ?10:51
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1037515 in ubiquity "ubiquity-dm crashed with MissingProgramError in run(): No window manager found (tried metacity, xfwm4, matchbox-window-manager, openbox-lubuntu, openbox)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103751510:51
ogra_(would be good to get the installer working again soon)10:52
cjwatsonFor now, maybe we should explicitly depend on the WMs we support10:53
* ogra_ isnt sure if metacity is unwanted completely or something 10:53
cjwatsonFor 12.10, I suspect we want to make it work with unity10:53
ogra_that means we can drop arm10:53
cjwatsonThat's a desktop problem, not an installer problem10:53
ogra_(unless the llvmpipe tests result in something positive which is very very unlikely)10:54
cjwatsonIf unity doesn't support arm, you aren't getting a working desktop on arm anyway10:54
ogra_well, the current plan was to have ubiquity run in 2D and tick the third party drivers box automatically10:54
ogra_so the desktop will have the necessary GLES bits but the installer doesnt need them10:55
cjwatsonLook, I don't really want to have this discussion: how about you assume that when I say unity I mean "unity or whatever 2D bits are available"10:55
ogra_the point is there are none and ubiquity-dm isnt a desktop thing imho10:56
cjwatsonIt kind of is if it's starting a desktop10:56
cjwatsonAnyway I don't see why metacity can't remain as a fallback10:56
ogra_k10:57
cjwatsonI don't want to get into the desktop wars :)10:57
ogra_haha10:57
* ogra_ is in the middle of them 10:57
ogra_right between the fronts :)10:58
cjwatsonhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1160599/ - how about that?10:59
ogra_wow, thats a lot of WMs, but yeah, if it works11:00
cjwatsonThat's the set supported by ubiquity-dm11:01
ogra_in the long term i think x-window-manager-gl would be a good idea though .... but more a debian thing11:01
cjwatsonSure, this is a stopgap to some extent11:01
ogra_oh, how about compiz ?11:02
ogra_if it works, you probably want it11:03
ogra_not sure there is any fallback detection though11:03
cjwatsonThat would involve a change to ubiquity-dm too11:03
cjwatsonI'm not keen to change more than necessary right now to get things working again11:03
ogra_ah, so there is no autodetecttion, good then11:03
* ogra_ thought we might just be hitting the fallback mechanism and break in that11:04
cjwatsonNo, ubiquity-dm has a hardcoded list of WMs it knows about11:04
cjwatsonSo x-window-manager was basically bogus anyway11:04
ogra_k11:04
ogra_heh, yeah11:04
cjwatsonNot that I'm saying this is good design, but ...11:04
ogra_it works :)11:05
cjwatsonIsh11:05
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