| jbicha | balloons: hey, how do I force apport to let me report a bug from the compiz-gsettings ppa? | 01:52 |
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| jbicha | I believe I have APPORT_IGNORE_OBSOLETE_PACKAGES set | 01:53 |
| shadeslayer | \o | 02:23 |
| phillw | jbicha: have you tried ubuntu-bug compiz | 02:45 |
| phillw | jbicha: if that does not work, then remove the ppa, reinstall and report against the ppa | 02:46 |
| phillw | (as in ppa purge) | 02:46 |
| phillw | jbicha: I cannot find it on the central QA area, I do apologise; we are getting things transferred over. the current one for dealing with errant ppa's is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/PPA_Testing | 02:53 |
| jbicha | the ppa purge idea is interesting, I'll try that next time | 02:56 |
| phillw | It's most likely my fault that it has not been added onto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities as we were discussing about documenting 'ad-hoc' testing, and it does appear to have slipped under our radar.... I'm sorry. | 03:01 |
| phillw | In my feeble defence, we really are stretched with testing. We have a QA meeting this afternoon, I'll bear this example in mind for the fact we MUST have correct & upto date information for the good people who actually test. | 03:03 |
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| smartboyhw | phillw: If you are here: How is your upgrade testing going?:) | 12:02 |
| phillw | smartboyhw: for kubuntu? We have a confirmation of the complete fail. | 12:08 |
| smartboyhw | phillw: Oh....That's sad | 12:08 |
| phillw | smartboyhw: it's not that bad, at least they have a better idea of the failure. | 12:09 |
| smartboyhw | phillw: Hmm... | 12:09 |
| smartboyhw | Hmm, still no good with the testing status of Ubuntu Studio 12.04.1 images, only me and len-dt tested it, and that was because we are team member there:( | 12:15 |
| phillw | just waiting for kubuntu-devel to ask me what they want me to do next. I've preppped up daddy server for them | 12:16 |
| smartboyhw | phillw: Daddy server? BTW, aren't you supposed to be in Lubuntu?:) | 12:16 |
| phillw | lubuntu has its ticks, we have just about got enough testers. | 12:17 |
| smartboyhw | phillw: What do you mean by "we have just got enough testers?" Who are the testers? Want to know | 12:18 |
| phillw | smartboyhw: daddy server is the 16G version of http://www.kimsufi.co.uk/ | 12:18 |
| smartboyhw | phillw: You mean there's not enough people in testing Kubuntu? | 12:18 |
| phillw | smartboyhw: our list is https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa/+members which includes some 'main' QA people. | 12:19 |
| smartboyhw | OK, thanks. | 12:20 |
| smartboyhw | phillw: Is it that we will be talking a hell lot about 12.04.1 testing on today's QA meeting?:-) | 12:22 |
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| phillw | smartboyhw: it does need to have a chat about. | 12:29 |
| smartboyhw | phillw: Ready to be chair?:) | 13:36 |
| balloons | evening njin :-) | 14:23 |
| njin | hallo balloons :-) good morning | 14:24 |
| balloons | if you'd like, we're having the weekly meeting in #ubuntu-meeting right no | 14:26 |
| balloons | *now | 14:26 |
| smartboyhw | njin; Come | 14:26 |
| njin | balloons, just back from biking, I'm sweating like a fountain, but I follow the meeting | 14:26 |
| smartboyhw | And see if you can understand what phillw's saying about the testcases:) | 14:26 |
| balloons | njin.. biking is fun! | 14:26 |
| balloons | off-road or on-road? | 14:26 |
| njin | yes | 14:26 |
| njin | off road | 14:27 |
| njin | better mountain biking | 14:29 |
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| smartboyhw | OK, so, the MASSIVE FAILURE that phillw has experienced during testing. | 14:55 |
| njin | I cannot remeber all this failure upgrading from Uby 10.04 to 12.04 | 14:56 |
| smartboyhw | I never tested it, since I hate old releases:( | 14:57 |
| smartboyhw | I like NEW! | 14:57 |
| njin | and it was also an hardware test | 14:57 |
| phillw | jibel: the failures on 10.04.4 --> 12.04 overloaded the error reporting system, the logs of my coversations are on #kubuntu-devel | 14:57 |
| njin | smartboy, the new is on the upgrade logistic...;-) | 14:57 |
| balloons | njin, yes upgrades seemed to go really smooth this time around | 14:57 |
| phillw | jibel: it was confirmed on VM very late (read as in the early hours for myself) | 14:58 |
| smartboyhw | BTW, look at the e-mail a guy just sent to the qA mail list | 14:59 |
| phillw | I cannot therefore give a tick to the iso-tracker. | 14:59 |
| njin | downloading images to test an upgrade | 14:59 |
| smartboyhw | Not downloading, will sleep soon:( | 14:59 |
| njin | I wiil upgrade ubuntu amd 64 | 15:01 |
| njin | balloons, the bug with the LP is due to a tilde in the tags, I've specified in the mail that i?ve sent to carla, but still waiting approval... | 15:05 |
| balloons | waiting approval? | 15:06 |
| njin | yes, every letter I send to the list has to wait | 15:06 |
| balloons | njin, thanks for helping her out.. I haven't seen the reply | 15:06 |
| balloons | why is it giving you a wait? | 15:06 |
| njin | dunno | 15:06 |
| balloons | u a non-member? | 15:06 |
| njin | Post by non-member to a members-only list | 15:07 |
| balloons | ahh | 15:07 |
| smartboyhw | Subscribe to it NOW | 15:07 |
| smartboyhw | :) | 15:07 |
| balloons | perhaps your email isn't the same when replying | 15:07 |
| balloons | as when you recieve the message | 15:07 |
| balloons | https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-qa | 15:07 |
| njin | ah, probably | 15:07 |
| balloons | I'm not an admin, so actually I can't help :-) | 15:08 |
| smartboyhw | oh | 15:08 |
| balloons | njin I would just subscribe to the list with the same address your sending your reply with | 15:08 |
| balloons | that should fix it | 15:08 |
| njin | ok, thanks | 15:08 |
| balloons | jibel, can you approve njin's post to ubuntu-qa?? | 15:09 |
| jibel | balloons, done | 15:11 |
| njin | jibel, thanks | 15:12 |
| phillw | balloons: you mean you're not an admin on ubuntu-qa? Most peculiar | 15:12 |
| njin | balloons, still naving the new compiz installed ? | 15:12 |
| smartboyhw | jibel: Give balloons an admin seat in ubuntu-qa:) | 15:12 |
| balloons | njin, yes I still do | 15:13 |
| njin | yes, one for him and one for his dog | 15:13 |
| roadmr | woof | 15:13 |
| smartboyhw | njin: Are you the official teaser of balloons' dog/:) | 15:13 |
| njin | can you repèroduce two more bugs ? | 15:13 |
| balloons | njin, yes.. shoot | 15:14 |
| njin | bug 1040042 | 15:15 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1040042 in Unity "Desktop menubar don't appear when mouse hover panel or when Alt+F and others shortcuts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040042 | 15:15 |
| njin | 1040036 | 15:15 |
| njin | bug 1040036 | 15:15 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1040036 in Unity "grid compiz plugin run without reason" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040036 | 15:15 |
| smartboyhw | phillw: You mean an upgrade or what for Ubuntu Studio at 12.10? | 15:17 |
| balloons | phillw, did you tarball up the logs from the kubuntu installs for jibel? | 15:18 |
| * balloons will attempt to confirm | 15:18 | |
| phillw | balloons: alas no, the VM failed all external connections after the upgrade (it was on my local machine), that is why I said that they could use the last spare SII server VM and uploaded both the 10.04.4 iso's to it. | 15:20 |
| smartboyhw | phillw: Reply to PM | 15:20 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: PM | 15:21 |
| * njin nothing :-( | 15:21 | |
| balloons | njin | 15:21 |
| smartboyhw | njin: :( | 15:21 |
| balloons | yep, both happened for me | 15:21 |
| njin | good, thanks for the verify | 15:22 |
| balloons | we should add some deescription to bug 1040036 | 15:22 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1040036 in Unity "grid compiz plugin run without reason" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040036 | 15:22 |
| njin | there are other two but are already confirmed | 15:22 |
| balloons | it's a bit confusing.. but the screencast explained it | 15:22 |
| smartboyhw | phillw: Reply to PM, please | 15:23 |
| njin | balloons, it is really a strange issue, becouse sometimes when reporducing the applications on tha launcher autostarts | 15:24 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: Sent the e-mail to the testcase admin team using Launchpad:) I understand how it works now, thanks for link | 15:31 |
| balloons | smartboyhw, sure | 15:31 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: I'll list you as my mentor in my Wiki page tmr:) | 15:32 |
| njin | jibel, sorry...again...Post by non-member to a members-only list | 16:00 |
| jibel | njin, you can post to the list with the address you subscribed or subscribe with the address that is currently moderated | 16:03 |
| njin | so i cannot use @ubuntu.com and have to use hotmail.com ? | 16:06 |
| smartboyhw | njin: Subscribe both! | 16:06 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: Look at PM | 16:07 |
| njin | this thing makes me sad, we don't have a mail address, evern depend on others | 16:08 |
| njin | we have the cloud and not the mail | 16:10 |
| njin | balloons, I'm too sad, I stop testing in protest !! | 16:11 |
| balloons | ahh njin :-( | 16:12 |
| smartboyhw | Off to bed now! | 16:12 |
| balloons | njin, yes subscribe using both email addresses | 16:12 |
| balloons | night smartboyhw | 16:13 |
| njin | smartboyhw sleep with his pc ? | 16:13 |
| balloons | I know I do :-) | 16:13 |
| smartboyhw | njin: I'll quit soon | 16:13 |
| njin | ok balloons | 16:14 |
| njin | smartboyhw, good sleep | 16:14 |
| smartboyhw | Bye njin | 16:14 |
| smartboyhw | And balloons | 16:14 |
| smartboyhw | And jibel | 16:14 |
| njin | jibel, sorry again, another mail address to authorize, but when we can have our own mail service without depend on others? | 16:20 |
| njin | I'm crying, I want the mail service , boooo | 16:21 |
| jibel | phillw, I tried a kubuntu upgrade from 10.04.4 + updates to latest precise and it succeeded. Only failure I got was a crash of Kbuildsycoca, it was not fatal and I dismissed the error dialog | 16:46 |
| phillw | jibel: good :) | 16:49 |
| phillw | jibel: so it just needs docoumenting as 'cancel the crash'? | 16:51 |
| phillw | bbs. need to reboot into lubuntu | 16:52 |
| cking | pgraner, ping | 17:11 |
| pgraner | cking, pong | 17:14 |
| cking | pgraner, hi, I'm assembling the power measuring rig but I seem to be missing a power clamp, apparently one was ordered for me a few weeks ago. Was that done? If so, is there a tracking number for the order | 17:15 |
| pgraner | cking, gema had it, she would have any tracking | 17:16 |
| cking | pgraner, hrm, she sent me a package with some of the kit - OK I will pursue this and track it down somehow, thanks | 17:17 |
| pgraner | cking, oh the clamp | 17:17 |
| pgraner | cking, sorry, just hit me | 17:17 |
| cking | yep, the clampy thing | 17:18 |
| pgraner | cking, the one I ordered was a US one not UK so we didn't send it to you. | 17:18 |
| pgraner | cking, Just buy one (I found them on Amazon) and expense | 17:18 |
| cking | pgraner, ah, in which case I'd better order one right away. OK | 17:18 |
| pgraner | cking, I'll let ogasawara know | 17:18 |
| pgraner | cking, sorry, I should have let you know sooner | 17:19 |
| cking | pgraner, no worries, I've been on vacation and then tied up over this week, so we've not lost too much time, I will sort it out | 17:19 |
| pgraner | cking, cool | 17:20 |
| njin | !net-split | 17:55 |
| njin | ! net split | 17:56 |
| njin | !net split | 17:56 |
| jibel | balloons, and all don't start testing newest alternates are broken | 17:58 |
| balloons | jibel, ohh? | 17:58 |
| balloons | can we mark for re-build and update notification? | 17:58 |
| njin | jibel, thanks | 18:01 |
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| patdk-wk | more testing needed? new round? | 18:48 |
| skaet | patdk-wk, there's a fresh set of alternate images (Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu) that need to be tested. | 19:06 |
| balloons | yes.. | 19:13 |
| balloons | jibel, can you take care of the amd64+mac? I know your connection is so so today | 19:16 |
| balloons | heck you may be gone... | 19:16 |
| njin | balloons, have you tried upgrade lucid - precise ? | 19:19 |
| balloons | njin, I'm going to get the alt iso's retested | 19:20 |
| balloons | then i'll try the upgrade | 19:21 |
| balloons | I didn't do an alt upgrade yet though, no | 19:21 |
| balloons | still syncing atm | 19:21 |
| njin | mine is nopt working, it won't propose the upgrade and i've found this now: bug 1040002 | 19:21 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1040002 in linux (Ubuntu) "lucid upgrade to precise amd64 universe failed: E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040002 | 19:21 |
| balloons | njin ohh no | 19:22 |
| njin | probably the upgrade are loked I don't know | 19:22 |
| njin | locked | 19:22 |
| balloons | njin, hop over onto #ubuntu-release | 19:23 |
| balloons | njin, did this happen on what iso? | 19:23 |
| balloons | er.. lol.. upgrade test, right :-) | 19:23 |
| njin | lol | 19:23 |
| njin | ok, asking on release chan | 19:24 |
| balloons | njin, looks like the bug needs more info | 19:24 |
| balloons | perhaps you can provide it | 19:24 |
| balloons | can you run apport-collect? | 19:24 |
| njin | surely, but dunno if it is related, i've to look indeep | 19:25 |
| balloons | i mean.. it's broken "live" in front of you | 19:25 |
| balloons | we'll see what they think | 19:25 |
| njin | balloon, is expexted as the upgrade is locked for the LTS user till 12.04.1 release | 19:28 |
| balloons | ahh yes.. | 19:28 |
| jibel | njin, this is a generic error message. Can you please file a new bug against update-manager and attach the content of /var/log/dist-upgrade | 19:29 |
| balloons | we knew that :-) | 19:29 |
| jibel | njin, it is not an expected message | 19:29 |
| njin | jibel, no I0m not the reporter of the bug, mine just don't suggest to upgrade to precise | 19:29 |
| jibel | and don't add the logs to the bug reported by victor as they are very likely caused by different issues | 19:29 |
| jibel | njin, ah ok, I understood you got the same error message | 19:30 |
| jibel | sorry | 19:30 |
| njin | no, thanks egual | 19:30 |
| jibel | balloons, I'm back! | 19:30 |
| balloons | jibel, salut mon ami! | 19:31 |
| jibel | heh | 19:31 |
| jibel | I'll do mac after other alternates | 19:31 |
| balloons | Je pense que je suis fou | 19:32 |
| njin | balloons, yes, but haw we can test the upgrade ?? | 19:32 |
| balloons | je me sens fou.. | 19:32 |
| balloons | meric jibel | 19:33 |
| njin | balloons, meilleur feu que bill gates | 19:33 |
| balloons | njin, tres drole! | 19:33 |
| njin | let see if today i can complete a test | 19:37 |
| njin | syncing the server | 19:38 |
| njin | baloons, if I manually edit the sources.list to upgrade to Precise is considered a valid test ? | 19:43 |
| njin | balloons:^^ | 19:43 |
| njin | so we can observe the upgrade | 19:44 |
| balloons | njin, ask jibel how he does it | 19:44 |
| balloons | I would do it that way.. but it doesn't test the upgrade manager though | 19:44 |
| jibel | njin, it is invalid | 19:44 |
| njin | ok | 19:45 |
| jibel | njin, open a terminal and run: | 19:45 |
| balloons | jibel , do you enable proposed? | 19:45 |
| jibel | update-manager -d | 19:45 |
| jibel | or | 19:45 |
| jibel | do-release-upgrade -d | 19:45 |
| njin | trying | 19:45 |
| jibel | balloons, not anymore | 19:45 |
| jibel | automated tests are testing -proposed and -updates | 19:45 |
| jibel | but for the release I'm manually testing -updates | 19:46 |
| balloons | k | 19:46 |
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| njin | I abort the test, too many time with slow connection, retry tomorrow, now go to slep, goodnight everybody | 20:19 |
| trijntje | ping balloons: why isn't the orange notebook blog present on planet.ubuntu.com? I think that would be a great way to attract more testers | 20:19 |
| balloons | goodnight njin | 20:19 |
| balloons | trijntje, it should be | 20:19 |
| balloons | perhaps they booted me :-p | 20:20 |
| balloons | lol.. yes, I still see myself there :-) | 20:20 |
| trijntje | oh, my bad, sorry. I usually check the planet daily, but I've somehow missed all posts. Unlucky I guess | 20:22 |
| balloons | trijntje, wow | 20:23 |
| balloons | yea, totally possible though | 20:23 |
| balloons | I use an rss reader | 20:23 |
| balloons | very easy to miss otherwise | 20:23 |
| balloons | for a long time it wasn't listed.. I just became a member in june | 20:23 |
| balloons | so I'm still fresh! | 20:23 |
| trijntje | maybe I should 'invest' in an rss reader ;) | 20:24 |
| trijntje | yeah, I was surprised to see you've been a member for such a short time, seeing how you've build up this QA community in such a short time! | 20:25 |
| balloons | trijntje, to me membership is confirmation of what you've already done and are continuing to do ;-) | 20:30 |
| balloons | that said, don't let membership (or lack of!) keep you from accomplishing things! | 20:31 |
| balloons | I am proud to stand and be counted as a member, but that doesn't hinder anyone from contributing imho | 20:31 |
| balloons | interesting.. I found a bug in rescue mode | 20:34 |
| trijntje | It's a nice badge of honour, and you get a @ubuntu.com email, which looks cool. I only applied because I needed the space on people.ubuntu.com for hosting localised Dutch iso images | 20:38 |
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| trijntje | i'm off, have a nice day everybody | 20:46 |
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| jibel | skaet, balloons ubuntu alternate i386, amd64 and mac is almost done. I didn't review rescue and memtest in the last set | 22:29 |
| balloons | jibel, i've been playing with rescue :-) | 22:29 |
| balloons | it works fine for one disk installation. I'm playing around with multiple disks/partitions | 22:29 |
| jibel | balloons, yep, I've seen your bug but honestly I don't feel like trying to reproducing it now :) | 22:30 |
| balloons | jibel, I can't reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1040297 | 22:30 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1040297 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Rescue mode doesn't execute shell agsint proper partition" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 22:30 |
| balloons | I wou;dn't worry about it.. I tried on the same instance.. couldn't do it | 22:31 |
| jibel | balloons, maybe a pebcak then | 22:31 |
| balloons | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1040306 seems to be an issue | 22:32 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1040306 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Rescue mode doesn't reinstall grub with all operating systems" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 22:32 |
| balloons | i'm still playing around with iterating it over and over | 22:33 |
| jibel | balloons, ok, I see you enjoy it, good luck and good night ! | 22:37 |
| balloons | :-) yes | 22:37 |
| balloons | good night | 22:38 |
| balloons | ok, I'm done playing.. I think 1040306 is valid.. not a showstopper | 22:42 |
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| phillw | psivaa: hiyas | 23:38 |
| psivaa | phillw hello | 23:39 |
| phillw | hi psivaa, I tried 10.04.4 kubunut --> 12.04 and it failed. | 23:40 |
| phillw | I was only doing it as a tick box excercise and did not imagine that it could fail so bad :( | 23:41 |
| phillw | psv | 23:42 |
| phillw | psivaa: , I do ask that you be patient, this test cycle has been a tough one. Don't give up, things will get better :) | 23:44 |
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