[05:35] <cob-olp> hi
[05:35] <cob-olp> what "Ubuntu TV Testcard" is?
[05:38] <cob-olp> is it some newer release of Ubuntu TV ported to 12.04?
[12:42] <tgm4883> cob-olp, no it's a tv testcard
[12:42] <tgm4883> cob-olp, further, wherever you saw it surely has descriptions and screenshots
[12:43] <tgm4883> actually i'm unsure if the weekly updates links to an info page
[12:44] <tgm4883> it didn't, but now the LP page links to the myapps page
[14:13] <smartboyhw> Yo bobweaver
[14:14] <bobweaver> Hello smartboyhw  how are you today ?
[14:14] <smartboyhw> Fine
[14:14] <bobweaver> my gf is making me clean house today I am going to toss 4 servers
[14:14] <smartboyhw> jhodapp is not replying about Ubuntu TV QA for a WEEK.
[14:15] <bobweaver> what do you mean ?
[14:15] <smartboyhw> Please look at past logs
[14:15] <bobweaver> like you have been asking the same question for a week and not getting answered ?
[14:15] <bobweaver> if so what is the question maybe I can help
[14:16] <smartboyhw> Don't worry, I will ask jhoadapp
[14:16] <bobweaver> ok
[14:16] <bobweaver> jhodapp,  is a good dude a busy but good dude I am sure that there is a reason for it
[14:17] <smartboyhw> OK
[14:17] <bobweaver> maybe there is no QA team yet and you should form it ?
[14:17] <smartboyhw> No, they have a internal QA guy, jhodapp is trying to contact him
[14:18] <bobweaver> ahh yeah in cases like this I go full steam ahead
[14:18] <bobweaver> helps
[14:18] <bobweaver> kinda
[14:18] <bobweaver> people get paid for stuff like this you know
[14:18] <smartboyhw> Oh, I'm too young to be employed
[14:18] <bobweaver> look at it like this
[14:19] <bobweaver> everyone keeps telling me stop writing in QML and QT code because it is not going to matter in the long run
[14:19] <bobweaver> but ...
[14:19] <bobweaver> the more I make and the more videos that I make the more attention ubuntu tv gets
[14:19] <jhodapp> smartboyhw, I asked Martin if he could think of anything...at this time there isn't much to help out on but...leading up to UDS at the end of October and defining the features for 13.04, there will be many things. So please stick around and joining in the conversation (or come to UDS if you can).
[14:19] <bobweaver> the more attention that UBuntu tv gets maybe the faster unity push will happen :)
[14:20] <bobweaver> see it is a win win
[14:20] <smartboyhw> OK, I'll be attending remotely
[14:20] <jhodapp> excellent!
[14:20] <bobweaver> I want to go to uds ;(
[14:20] <smartboyhw> bobweaver: Just attend remotely:)
[14:20] <jhodapp> bobweaver, you applied for sponsorship, right?
[14:21] <bobweaver> jhodapp,  will cooke did for me
[14:21] <bobweaver> but it is more about $ passports and planning
[14:21] <bobweaver> right
[14:21] <jhodapp> nice, I'm not sure when Canonical decides who gets sponsorship, but I imagine it'd be soon
[14:21] <smartboyhw> Anyone participating in the dev week this week?
[14:22] <jhodapp> bobweaver, go ahead and get your passport now if you don't have one, it costs more if you have to rush order it
[14:22] <bobweaver> cool jhodapp  will do
[14:22] <bobweaver> jhodapp,  happy about unity preview ?
[14:22] <jhodapp> yes indeed
[14:22] <jhodapp> a very nice feature
[14:23] <bobweaver> me too there are lot bugs and there is need for workarounds but that is expected
[14:23] <bobweaver> over all 7 out of 10 from me
[14:23] <jhodapp> glad you like it, they are still in active development
[14:24] <bobweaver> 9 out of ten if they would use different screenshots then the ones in screenshot.debian.net there old
[14:24] <bobweaver> qt creator is from like 1.X
[14:24] <bobweaver> i have filled bugs
[14:24] <jhodapp> ah nice
[14:25] <bobweaver> this will be easy to plug in for TV
[14:25] <bobweaver> after RE the code last night
[14:25] <bobweaver> it will be easy
[14:25] <bobweaver> just gots to get my vala skillz a little bit higher
[14:26] <jhodapp> you and me both ;)
[14:26] <smartboyhw> :)
[14:27] <bobweaver> see it is not that much of a change to unity as it is the lens and scopes
[14:27] <bobweaver> just adding vala snipets here and there that is what I see
[14:28] <bobweaver> I am going to raise hell over on #ubuntu-unity and see if I can get anywhere with learning how a --force-tv would work
[14:28] <smartboyhw> bobweaver: Don't raise HELL:)
[14:29] <bobweaver> lol
[16:09] <bobweaver> http://rochester.craigslist.org/sys/3222120230.html
[16:09] <bobweaver> am I cutting myself short ?
[16:11] <smartboyhw> bobweaver: Give me one for free!
[16:11] <bobweaver> lol
[16:11] <bobweaver> maybe I will ask for $10 usd for all my old servers
[16:11] <bobweaver> they are p3
[16:12] <bobweaver> I should just toss them
[16:13] <smartboyhw> bobweaver: Bye for now, sleep!
[16:17] <bobweaver> lol the harddrive that is in this thing is from a old tivo
[16:19] <bobweaver> I think that little fucker marked it as spam
[16:19] <tgm4883> !language
[16:19] <tgm4883> !slap popey
[16:22] <ogra_> undeserved !
[16:23] <bobweaver> sorry tgm4883  did not know that you where that sensitive
[16:23] <bobweaver> I will watch it
[16:23] <tgm4883> bobweaver, I'm not
[16:23] <tgm4883> but it violates the CoC
[16:23] <bobweaver> Oh
[16:23] <tgm4883> and if I have to follow the CoC in this channel, so does everyone else ;)
[16:23] <bobweaver> the thing that gets re-wrote daily
[16:24] <bobweaver> j/k
[16:24] <tgm4883> possibly, but that is one of the points that usually stays
[16:24] <bobweaver> dude I just found a syswtem 76 for 150 online
[16:24] <bobweaver> cragslist
[16:24] <bobweaver> also this http://rochester.craigslist.org/sys/3184638912.html
[16:24] <bobweaver> wish I would have waited
[16:25] <tgm4883> heh, that is the exact card I just took out of my backend
[16:25] <bobweaver> Sorry he droped the price to 120 Oo
[16:25] <bobweaver> System 76 Starling Linux netbook - $120
[16:25] <bobweaver> I better buy that
[16:25] <bobweaver> try for the trade first
[16:26] <bobweaver> Ubuntnu tv for it
[16:26] <bobweaver> passport or system 76 computer
[16:26] <bobweaver> passport or system 76 computer
[16:26] <bobweaver> umm.....
[16:26] <bobweaver> this is hard
[16:28] <tgm4883> bobweaver, do you have a laptop?
[16:28] <bobweaver> yeah I just bought it
[16:29] <tgm4883> bobweaver, have you used a netbook for an extended period of time?
[16:29] <bobweaver> but it is not a system 76
[16:29] <bobweaver> that is all I use besides the TV that is
[16:29] <bobweaver> I think that that is right
[16:29] <tgm4883> I'd probably stick with a laptop then
[16:29] <bobweaver> why do you say that ?
[16:29] <bobweaver> just wondering ?
[16:30] <bobweaver> see here is the thing
[16:30] <bobweaver> I do not think that I am going to be accepted for sponsorship
[16:30] <tgm4883> well, my situation probably differs from most other people. I've recently removed my desktop system (removed monitor/keyboard/mouse), leaving me only a netbook and tablet
[16:31] <tgm4883> the netbook isn't much fun to develop on, I think i'll have to plug a keyboard/mouse/monitor into it to do anything descent
[16:31] <tgm4883> keyboard is just too small
[16:31] <tgm4883> plus i've got the tablet for anything I'd usually use the netbook for anyway
[16:32] <tgm4883> bobweaver, regarding UDS, IDK when the signup ends ( mhall119 might know), but I don't think you'd be able to get a passport in time if you applied for the passport after being accepted to UDS
[16:32] <tgm4883> so it's a bit of a gamble
[16:32] <tgm4883> IIRC, takes 4-6 weeks for a passport?
[16:33] <mhall119> the time for applying for sponsorship ended on Monday, the engineering managers are voting on people now
[16:33] <tgm4883> ah
[16:33] <tgm4883> mhall119, so it's too late for me to send a bottle of bubbley to all the engineering managers?
[16:33] <mhall119> but tgm4883 is right, you should have your passport ready, don't wait on getting confirmation or you likely won't have enough time
[16:33] <mhall119> tgm4883: no, they are still voting.
[16:33] <mhall119> tgm4883: you'll want to next-day it though
[16:34] <tgm4883> I should have put that on my application
[16:34] <tgm4883> "will buy beer for all engineering managers at UDS if accepted"
[16:34] <bobweaver> phone
[16:52] <bobweaver> thanks mhall119
[16:53] <bobweaver> the only thing is is that I am super poor lol if I am to spend that money on passport and then not get in .....
[16:53] <bobweaver> I mean I guess I will have a passport
[16:53] <bobweaver> though
[16:54] <bobweaver> er spelling hard situation
[17:08] <mhall119> yeah, unfortuately a password is a pre-requisite, and they can sometimes take a long time to gt
[17:08] <mhall119> get
[17:08] <mhall119> the more time you have, though, the cheaper it is.  They charge more if you need it processed in a hurry
[17:58] <bobweaver> Wow the servers went fast I got like 10 or 15 emails for them in like 10 or 15 minutes time
[17:58] <bobweaver> http://rochester.craigslist.org/zip/3222277583.html
[19:27] <bobweaver> So many options to weigh I am confused and my dev/null is about to explode !
[19:27] <bobweaver> :)
[20:04] <bobweaver> mhall119,  again thanks for the heads up. I have not heard back from the system 76 guy but I put a G away for my passport and travel (incase) I mihg tbe able to get overnight
[20:05] <bobweaver> s| mihg tbe| might be
[20:06] <bobweaver> If I can buy that will drop my savings to 880
[20:10] <mhall119> IIRC, my passport was < $100
[20:10] <mhall119> and if you get sponsored, Canonical will pay for your flight and hotel stay
[20:12] <mhall119> you'll need to pay out-of-pocket for meals (breakfast and lunch is provided on the days of UDS itself, and dinner to on some days), but you can file for reimbursement after the event
[20:12] <mhall119> you don't have to pay for provided meals, but you won't get reimbursed for meals that are provided, even if you choose to eat somewhere else
[20:13] <tgm4883> mhall119, you get per diem for dinner
[20:14] <tgm4883> or at least you used to
[20:14] <tgm4883> and.... now I've read your comment again
[20:14] <tgm4883> never mind me
[20:15] <mhall119> :)
[20:16] <mhall119> I usually assume lunch+dinner on the flight there, lunch+dinner on the flight back,and 2-3 dinners during the week
[20:17] <mhall119> though last UDS, I think dinner was provided all but one night
[20:17] <tgm4883> mhall119, in orlando it was because of the various events
[20:17] <tgm4883> pizza and stuff
[20:17] <mhall119> I was talking SF
[20:18] <mhall119> I drove home every night when it was in Orlando
[20:18] <tgm4883> yea I didn't go to Oakland
[20:18] <tgm4883> I didn't want to pack my 9
[20:18] <mhall119> it wasn't that bad
[20:18] <tgm4883> I know, I actually had just switched jobs so it was bad timing
[20:18] <mhall119> though we did have SWAT outside the hotel the day I arrived, on account of the Occupy protests
[20:19] <tgm4883> nice
[20:25] <jhodapp> my passport was about $90
[20:25] <tgm4883> mine was $120 a few weeks ago
[20:25] <tgm4883> it was my first one
[20:25] <jhodapp> must have raised the price
[20:25] <tgm4883> also, I hate the post office now
[20:25] <jhodapp> now? I always have
[20:25] <jhodapp> :)
[20:26] <tgm4883> s/now/more/
[20:26] <jhodapp> I usually get a smile when I go to FedEx/UPS, when I go to the post office I feel like I did something wrong the moment I set foot in the door
[20:32] <mhall119> tgm4883: did you pay for faster processing?
[20:32] <mhall119> IIRC, I had a $120 option to get it faster
[20:33] <tgm4883> mhall119, no, it's suppose to only take 4-6 weeks
[20:33] <mhall119> but I had enough time to go slow and cheap
[20:33] <mhall119> (relatively cheap anyway)
[20:33] <tgm4883> http://travel.state.gov/passport/fees/fees_837.html
[20:33] <mhall119> hmm, seems the did raise the price then
[22:25] <bobweaver> thansk agin to all
[22:25] <bobweaver> again
[22:27] <bobweaver> ang I was trowing out some out sofa's because we got new ones and slammed my hand on the wall so now my right hand is now purple and put it this way I have 5 fingers on my left that work great and 2 on right
[22:27] <bobweaver> well at least qwerty for left handers
[22:28] <bobweaver> I wish that this dude would get back to me about the system 76 I want it !!
[22:30] <bobweaver> that is great that canoincal pays for hotel I was going to go couchsurffing
[22:30] <bobweaver> well if it happens that is
[22:34] <bobweaver> man I really want to get that atom system76 and make it into my remote for my tv