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| AlanBell | morning all | 06:48 |
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| diplo | Morning all | 07:07 |
| christel | GOOD MORNING :D | 07:21 |
| BigRedS | Good Morning! | 07:33 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | shh | 07:43 |
| christel | aww | 07:43 |
| diplo | :P | 07:45 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | shiny :-) http://www.baserock.com/ | 07:55 |
| === KillerJim|Away is now known as KillerJim | ||
| popey | morning | 08:07 |
| DJones | Argh, stupid tesco bank, only works with IE | 08:08 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Hey - Windows 8 sounds just like Unity ;-) http://www.pcgamesn.com/article/why-i-m-uninstalling-windows-8 | 08:09 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 08:10 |
| popey | "It took me nearly half an hour to work out how to turn off my PC." | 08:12 |
| popey | GNOME Shell! | 08:12 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | lol | 08:12 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | it sounds great eh? | 08:12 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | "If you’re using Metro apps, there is no clock | 08:14 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | FFS. " | 08:14 |
| JamesTait | Good morning all! :) | 08:18 |
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| christel | GOOD MORNING JamesTait my beautiful beautiful person! <3 | 08:29 |
| diplo | Happy mood today christel :) | 08:31 |
| christel | why yes my lovely diplo :D | 08:32 |
| christel | it is a WONDERFUL day! | 08:32 |
| diplo | I need to feel like that, really must start my CV this week and find a new job! | 08:32 |
| daubers | diplo: You can have mine if you want.... | 08:33 |
| diplo | If you weren't so far away daubers I'd jump at it :/ | 08:33 |
| daubers | Just need to fend off the "We need you to go to Amsterdam for a week to help with this trade show" rubbish | 08:33 |
| diplo | With my kids it just puts that issue on me of flexibility | 08:33 |
| christel | nono, jump on it anyway! you'd be closer to all us cool people :D | 08:33 |
| JamesTait | christel: I think you must have me confused with someone else. :-P | 08:34 |
| christel | haha | 08:34 |
| christel | not at aaaalllll | 08:34 |
| JamesTait | christel: How are you, my lovely? | 08:36 |
| diplo | I have debated moving lot's of times, just interferes Mondays with school/swimming lessons, other than that I'm good with moving. | 08:36 |
| diplo | Apart from moving kids away from friends etc | 08:36 |
| diplo | Not got much holding me locally. | 08:36 |
| christel | JamesTait: i am VERY LOTS OF WELL (!?) :D | 08:37 |
| JamesTait | christel: Well that sounds good. :) Have you been drinking? :-P | 08:38 |
| christel | diplo: *nod* they are young enough to be able to settle down quickly after a move and make new friends etc i assume :) | 08:38 |
| christel | JamesTait: hahaha nO! | 08:38 |
| diplo | yeah defo | 08:38 |
| diplo | Anyone here have any knowledge of the east of Spain ? | 08:39 |
| christel | move to spain! i'll come visit and sunbathe! :D | 08:39 |
| diplo | Los Montesinos, Valencia, Spain in particular area | 08:39 |
| diplo | Just down from Alicante, been offered a flat for a week for free, just anyone recommend places around that area for a single bloke to do for a week :) | 08:40 |
| diplo | Rarely had abroad holidays in years and never on my own | 08:40 |
| soreau | diplo: drink and avoid getting mugged | 08:41 |
| diplo | heh soreau, defo one of my plans. I heard Barcelona was bad for that not the rest of the country | 08:41 |
| dutchie | daubers: not having fun at work? :( | 08:44 |
| christel | oh nice | 08:48 |
| daubers | dutchie: Too much going on, too much change requiring me to relearn my job! | 08:57 |
| daubers | While still doing my old job | 08:57 |
| diplo | daubers: that was my issue at my last job, and all the extra hours they wanted me to do for free | 08:57 |
| daubers | diplo: I don't necessarily have that problem, as things like holiday days are quite lax (can get a lot of time in leiu as long as it doesn't get it in the way of stuff) | 08:59 |
| dutchie | daubers: :( not much fun | 08:59 |
| daubers | diplo: It's just that I've never been tought how to manage! Thats now most of what I do :( | 09:00 |
| daubers | oh well, residential course in october to learn | 09:01 |
| diplo | daubers: Also one of my issues, I was temp manager for 6 months, learnt a lot in those 6 months | 09:02 |
| diplo | Now I don't have any of that, but just don't enjoy my work, | 09:03 |
| daubers | heh :) | 09:08 |
| dwatkins | diplo: I'm starting to feel like that in the rather large company I'm currently at. | 09:11 |
| diplo | :/ | 09:19 |
| dwatkins | there just seems to be too much work to do, or things to put right | 09:20 |
| diplo | yeah that was my old issue | 09:20 |
| diplo | The month before I left I basically wasn't in any projects so I basically fixed everyones niggles for a month | 09:21 |
| diplo | The guys have said since that most of the support issues disappeared after that | 09:21 |
| diplo | Wondering whether I should have stayed :D | 09:21 |
| dwatkins | I don't have access to the source, so I'm constantly fighting fires and dealing with other people having not dealt with things in a timely manner. | 09:33 |
| diplo | :/ | 09:35 |
| diplo | What do you do as a job dwatkins, still quite suprised by people who idle in here who are not in the IT industry | 09:35 |
| dwatkins | I'm in tech support, diplo. | 09:35 |
| diplo | Everything, or server side ? | 09:36 |
| dwatkins | server or client - I support a couple applications which can have issues on either. | 09:36 |
| dwatkins | ..and in three languages (French, German and English) | 09:37 |
| diplo | Oh fun, are you bilingual(sp??) | 09:37 |
| dutchie | this is quite a d-based conversation | 09:37 |
| dutchie | tab completion must be a pain | 09:37 |
| dwatkins | kinda, I can hold a conversation in any of my languages, although my grammar isn't too brilliant sometimes. | 09:38 |
| dwatkins | d-based, dutchie? | 09:38 |
| dutchie | Daubers Dwatkins and Dutchie | 09:38 |
| dwatkins | ah yes :) | 09:38 |
| dwatkins | I just see white, green and deep green ;) | 09:38 |
| diplo | and diplo! | 09:39 |
| * diplo feels left out :D | 09:39 | |
| dwatkins | you're the green one, diplo | 09:39 |
| diplo | heh | 09:40 |
| dutchie | ah yes, sorry diplo | 09:40 |
| dwatkins | I might move back down south, to the M4 corridor (seeing as my family is all there) | 09:43 |
| diplo | That's me dwatkins | 09:43 |
| diplo | I'd rather get work in a SMB being the sole IT guy i reckon, get my hands back on etc | 09:43 |
| dwatkins | yeah, I worked for a startup company back in the 'dotcom bubble' days, it was great fun. | 09:44 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 10:02 |
| dutchie | another d! | 10:12 |
| dutchie | maybe we have Displaced all others | 10:12 |
| diplo | lol | 10:19 |
| DJones | Do What? | 10:22 |
| Darael | What's this? | 10:26 |
| Mez | popey / AlanBell - looks like we've got the go-ahead here to do the Global Jam for all three days ... though not too sure how many people would be interested. | 10:27 |
| AlanBell | excellent | 10:28 |
| popey | yay | 10:28 |
| popey | we could do a live link up | 10:29 |
| popey | hangout | 10:29 |
| === AlanBell changed the topic of #ubuntu-uk to: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is publicly archived http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Mailing List http://tinyurl.com/uukml | Support Guidelines http://tinyurl.com/uuksupport | You don't have to start with "d" to be here, but it helps | Global Jam soon! | ||
| AlanBell | popey: want a polycom communicator for that? | 10:36 |
| mattt | jamjamjam! | 10:37 |
| mattt | Mez: where's the jam going to be at ? | 10:37 |
| diplo | AlanBell: heh at topic | 10:38 |
| dutchie | :D | 10:39 |
| dutchie | (the only appropriate smiley) | 10:39 |
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| popey | sardines on toast for lunch.. nom nom nom | 11:32 |
| diplo | Oh god no! Stay away | 11:38 |
| diplo | :) | 11:38 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | phew. | 11:38 |
| * TheOpenSourcerer will probably pick up a Tesco Curry on the way to the office he thinks | 11:39 | |
| diplo | Now that sounds nice :) | 11:39 |
| * AlanBell likes to eat sardines when there is nobody else in the house to complain about it | 11:39 | |
| * diplo is going to give the HairyDieters low cal curry a go soon, just printed out the recipe. | 11:40 | |
| popey | yeah, everyone left when i opened the tin | 11:40 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Except Sky I should think. | 11:40 |
| diplo | lol popey, things should be banned unless in open areas | 11:40 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Pilchards | 11:40 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Kippers | 11:40 |
| diplo | :( | 11:40 |
| AlanBell | diplo: let me know how it goes, I am on a bit of a diet | 11:41 |
| AlanBell | AlanBell-- | 11:42 |
| diplo | Will do, my mum bought the book a couple of days ago so will be 'borrowing' that as well | 11:43 |
| diplo | Going to try and make some variations of the indian dishes for a Indian night at my gaff soon for some friends. If they taste ok i will share that aswell :) | 11:44 |
| AlanBell | also take a picture of your spicerack :) | 11:44 |
| diplo | I really must one day, well it's a cupboard but I will.. | 11:45 |
| daubers | diplo: Oooh.. I keep meaning to watch that problem | 11:46 |
| * daubers went and saw the Hairy Bikers being filmed | 11:47 | |
| * TheOpenSourcerer and the Mrs are thinking of doing the 2 in 7 <600 calorie fasting diet - as shown on Horizon the other week. | 11:48 | |
| diplo | yeah i saw a few people on G+ doing the 600 cal diet | 11:49 |
| diplo | They seem to think it works | 11:49 |
| AlanBell | that is what I am doing | 11:50 |
| diplo | Well let me know how that goes, I need to start excersing more but dieting is defo another place i need to work at | 11:51 |
| AlanBell | 600 or so yesterday, probably going to try not to eat masses on other days too | 11:51 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | I like the idea you eat what you want for the other 5 days :-) | 11:51 |
| TheOpenSourcerer | Cool - a Hoverbike. http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/47008/star-wars-hover-bike-becomes-reality | 11:54 |
| Pendulum | TheOpenSourcerer: I'm considering trying paleo as I have friends who've had amazing luck with it not just for weight, but for overall health. I decided it was a possible thing to try after I found a recipe for a paleo-diet-friendly chocolate cake. Otherwise I've had my best luck with Weight Watchers, especially if I ignore their suggestion for carb levels and go lower carb, higher protein. But even falling off WW pretty spectacularly post-surg | 11:58 |
| dwatkins | I just started a low-carb diet, seems to be working fine so far: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Neris-Indias-Idiot-Proof-Diet-From/dp/0141027436 | 12:08 |
| dwatkins | Carbs raise insulin levels, which causes the body to store fat more. | 12:08 |
| dwatkins | It's less about how much you eat than what you eat. | 12:09 |
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| Pendulum | dwatkins: out of curiousity have you gotten the "carb flu" from your diet? | 12:36 |
| dwatkins | Pendulum: no, but I've been travelling, and havn't been able to stick to it strictly yet. | 12:39 |
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| bigcalm_laptop | Ello :) | 17:45 |
| popey | bug 1040206 | 17:53 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 1040206 in xorg (Ubuntu) "nvidia binary driver doesn't support XRandR 1.2/1.3" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040206 | 17:53 |
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| Dave2 | This channel has a nice round number of people in it | 18:59 |
| penguin42 | 2^power of the people | 19:00 |
| DJones | 128 is a round number? | 19:00 |
| penguin42 | very | 19:00 |
| penguin42 | DJones: It's 2^7 | 19:02 |
| penguin42 | bah, someone's spoiled it | 19:03 |
| AlanBell | anyone got any further thoughts on places to go for a christmas event? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2012-August/034895.html | 19:09 |
| === KillerJim is now known as KillerJim|Away | ||
| SuperEngineer | hmmm... concerned: downloaded the iso from the "Get Ubuntu Now" link on homepage. lsb_release shows what I thought it might from the iso name... it's still 12.04[.0] | 19:44 |
| SuperEngineer | I thougfht 12.04.1 was now current? | 19:44 |
| SuperEngineer | [can someone give popey a nudge towards that & do canonical a favour pretty please] | 19:46 |
| popey | nope | 19:47 |
| popey | tomorrow is 12.04.1 day | 19:47 |
| zleap | ohh | 19:47 |
| zleap | cool | 19:47 |
| SuperEngineer | hah so | 19:47 |
| SuperEngineer | thanks popey - thought it was already official from the hype | 19:48 |
| popey | heh | 19:48 |
| zleap | popey, i may download then so i install the latest version | 19:49 |
| popey | its only 12.04 with updates | 19:50 |
| popey | so if you already have 12.04 and update it, you're already running 12.04.1 | 19:50 |
| AlanBell | it is not a terribly exciting release, it just means if you happen to be installing 12.04 from tomorrow onwards you don't have as big an update as soon as it is installed | 19:51 |
| popey | 12.10 though... thats very exciting! :D | 19:51 |
| SuperEngineer | AlanBell: it just means when I update sister's pooter she doesn't huff & puff watching massive updates... that makes it life preserving ;) | 19:52 |
| AlanBell | not really | 19:53 |
| AlanBell | it is just a one-shot benefit | 19:53 |
| AlanBell | 12.10 is exciting, but it isn't the least bit exciting in virtualbox at the moment :( | 19:53 |
| SuperEngineer | [so is a cpr machine] ...same purpose ;) | 19:54 |
| SuperEngineer | medic to patient: look this cpr kit is a one shot cure, or would you like to stay here while we pray for you | 19:57 |
| popey | AlanBell, bug 1040240 | 20:08 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 1040240 in unity (Ubuntu) "unity_support_test chooses software, should use hardware driver" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040240 | 20:08 |
| popey | can you confirm that | 20:08 |
| AlanBell | I will try the workaround on bug 1021104 | 20:21 |
| lubotu3 | Launchpad bug 1021104 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Severe damage artefacts and flickering when using LLVMpipe" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1021104 | 20:21 |
| bigcalm_laptop | Hi kids | 20:27 |
| brobostigon | hi bigcalm_laptop | 20:27 |
| bigcalm_laptop | What have I been missing while in noisy London? | 20:28 |
| AlanBell | popey: so with the workaround (full screen redraws every frame) I am seeing llvmpipe rendered unity 3d? | 20:36 |
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| bigcalm_laptop | Silly nickserv | 20:43 |
| penguin42 | bigcalm_laptop: Yes, it just prodded me as well | 20:44 |
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| SuperEngineer | Nickserve is now known as Nickserve___11456332ti8w34-femjszbdp;ko ;) | 20:45 |
| popey | yes AlanBell | 20:45 |
| AlanBell | popey: I am pretty impressed by the performance then | 20:46 |
| popey | it's going to get a bit better | 20:46 |
| AlanBell | should be better without doing the full redraws | 20:46 |
| popey | yeah, but what CPU do you have? | 20:46 |
| AlanBell | core i3 mobile | 20:46 |
| popey | which has a 3d capable GPU | 20:46 |
| ahayzen | Hi, does anyone know what the crossover resolution is between when the dash is fullscreen as default and when it isn't? Many Thanks, Andy | 20:46 |
| AlanBell | model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz | 20:47 |
| bigcalm_ | Hotel wifi is so bad I'm better off with my 3g connection | 20:47 |
| popey | ahayzen, yeah, it's in our tests.. one mo | 20:47 |
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| AlanBell | popey: sure, it should be good when it uses the real drivers, but I wanted to see llvmpipe working anyhow | 20:48 |
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| bigcalm_laptop | Only good thing about London is the H+ connection I'm getting | 20:48 |
| popey | no, i mean, imagine you have a machine which is _not_ 3d capable | 20:48 |
| popey | it's likely to be older than i3 | 20:48 |
| AlanBell | yes, probably | 20:48 |
| popey | ergo less performant than you're seeing | 20:49 |
| AlanBell | an older thing might have a decent CPU though, a server for example | 20:49 |
| popey | you don't find many people running desktops interactively on servers | 20:50 |
| ahayzen | popey, Thanks :) | 20:50 |
| AlanBell | sure, but there isn't much else that isn't at all 3d capable | 20:51 |
| popey | ahayzen, can't find it.. it's either 800x600 or 1024x768 | 20:51 |
| popey | sure there is.. | 20:51 |
| popey | arm | 20:51 |
| popey | :) | 20:51 |
| AlanBell | err, isn't that going to use openGL es accellerated in hardware? | 20:52 |
| ahayzen | popey, Thanks ... was looking at laptops and was wondering if 1366x768 would be fullscreen or not | 20:52 |
| ahayzen | popey, fullscreen is scary on a 1920x1080 display ;) | 20:52 |
| popey | oh, no | 20:53 |
| popey | i have 1366x768 | 20:53 |
| Dave2 | 1366x768 :( | 20:53 |
| popey | AlanBell, hope so, GLES should land soon | 20:53 |
| ahayzen | so 1366x768 is fullscreen? | 20:53 |
| popey | no | 20:54 |
| AlanBell | ahayzen: if you maximise the dash, but not normally | 20:54 |
| AlanBell | probably 600 vertical is the fullscreen dash by default, it then won't display the shortcut overlay on long hold of the super key either | 20:54 |
| ahayzen | ok cause i prefer unity in non-fullscreen :) | 20:55 |
| ahayzen | Thanks guys...quick response as usual :) | 20:56 |
| daubers | Evening | 21:47 |
| mgdm | Hi | 21:48 |
| daubers | It's late and I'm still up! | 21:52 |
| bigcalm_laptop | Evening | 21:52 |
| bigcalm_laptop | Can I go home now please? | 21:52 |
| bigcalm_laptop | My unit tests look fabulous, sadly I don't understand half of them | 21:53 |
| dwatkins | I long for unit tests. | 21:54 |
| bigcalm_laptop | dwatkins: you are strange then :P | 21:54 |
| bigcalm_laptop | mgdm: 7/9 people on our course are now using phpStorm. I'm using the demo, seems quite nice. Any experience yourself? | 21:55 |
| dwatkins | bigcalm_laptop: imagine a large application with some changes made to it, the 'QE' team test the functionality immediately surrounding those changes, but don't notice something else that's affected because it's further away | 21:55 |
| bigcalm_laptop | dwatkins: it's nice that you have time and budget for writing tests :D | 21:56 |
| dwatkins | I'm not certain unit tests would be the solution, but I feel there's something lacking there. | 21:56 |
| mgdm | bigcalm_laptop: no, 'cos it's quite pricey, and I'm fairly happy with Vim | 21:56 |
| dwatkins | bigcalm_laptop: yeah, that's probably why the entire application isn't tested. I just wish it could be done in an automated fashion so the issue which arose could have been detected | 21:56 |
| popey | BigRedS, how you finding sparkleshare? | 21:59 |
| daubers | http://ubuntuone.com/367PRPf2OdLpB5fEq5QXve <- An evening well spent | 22:00 |
| bigcalm_laptop | Silly t-mobile | 22:02 |
| dwatkins | very nice, daubers :) | 22:12 |
| * dwatkins wishes he still lived in Reading so he could join in | 22:12 | |
| BigRedS | popey: Just filed a bug, pondering another :) | 22:14 |
| BigRedS | but it works once set up | 22:14 |
| BigRedS | quite like it | 22:14 |
| BigRedS | While I'm here, though, Launchpad tells me that Sparkleshare bugs go in Gnome's bugzilla, but the Sparkleshare site says to file them on GitHub. Where should I point this out? | 22:14 |
| bigcalm_laptop | File a bug | 22:15 |
| * bigcalm_laptop hides | 22:15 | |
| * bigcalm_laptop feels as helpful as davmor2 | 22:16 | |
| bigcalm_laptop | popey: can you make this? :) http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1906/detail/ | 22:18 |
| * popey clicks | 22:20 | |
| popey | I'll tell you once I get past the launchpad oops :) | 22:24 |
| bigcalm_laptop | :D | 22:28 |
| * bigcalm_laptop slithers off to bed | 22:32 | |
| dutchie | o/ | 22:43 |
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