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davidcallemhr3, I can now confirm : results deduplication, merging and sorting from multiple scopes, work perfectly from Python.10:04
mhr3davidcalle, awesomeness ;)10:04
davidcallemhr3, yeah, I even found a way to have ultrafast deduplication10:05
mhr3davidcalle, could i get you to test it with the flow renderer as well?10:05
mhr3davidcalle, heh, cool :)10:05
davidcallemhr3, sure.10:05
mhr3davidcalle, and yea, open a bug then10:06
davidcallemhr3, doesn't work with flow, opening bug10:12
mhr3davidcalle, thx10:13
davidcallemhr3, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/104000510:16
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1040005 in Unity "Merge Strategy changes don't modify Flow renderer results" [Undecided,New]10:16
jellhi11:02
jellhi11:02
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jellis there some way to capture click on appindicator icon?11:03
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jelli have some menu connected with .set_menu, but 'show' event on this menu seems to be not emited11:04
njinHallo, which is the name of the orange tranparent window ?11:53
popeynjin, don't think it has a name, it's the grid compiz plugin that does it.11:57
njinpopey, thanks11:57
jellis this a right place for asking about how to program something for appindicator?12:07
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bilalTrevinho: there?12:23
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bobweaverIs there plans to remove the unity-panel ?13:47
bobweaveror am I right in thinking that this is a bug ?13:47
bobweaverhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/104006213:47
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1040062 in Unity "Unity panel is not working at all " [Undecided,New]13:47
popeybobweaver, it probably crashed13:48
bobweaverpopey,  on boot up ?13:49
bobweaverI will look at boot log13:49
bobweaverthanks13:49
bobweaverpopey,  take a look at the screen shot that I uploaded with that bug you will see that the name of the app is still there (top left) but the memmenu the cog and everything else is gone13:50
popeybobweaver, check ~/.xsession-errors13:51
popeyyes, i did :)13:51
popey /usr/lib/unity/unity-panel-service has probably died13:51
bobweaverthanks you are always 2 steps ahead if me :)13:51
popeynah, I just always click whatever links people throw at me on irc :D13:51
bobweaverlol13:51
bobweaveryeah not looking good13:51
bobweaver(unity-panel-service:8323): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.compiz.unityshell' is not installed13:52
bobweaverTrace/breakpoint trap (core dumped)13:52
bobweaveralso the screen shots in the perview should not be comming from screenshot.debian.net13:52
popeythat;'d do it13:53
bobweaverthouse are super super old13:53
bobweaverlike qt creator shot is like from qt 1.X13:53
bobweaverwe are now on 2.513:53
bobweaverit is misleading to the enduser13:53
popeyfile a bug :)13:53
popeyi think you can submit new screenshots13:54
bobweaverhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/104006913:54
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1040069 in Unity "Unity preview screenshots from debian look like crap" [Undecided,Opinion]13:54
bobweavernope I have tried many times13:54
bobweaverbecause it is not what it looks like i  debian it gets rejected13:55
popeyyour bug doesn't actually show the problem13:55
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popeyi see no screenshot highlighting the issue13:55
bobweaverI will take and upload13:55
bobweaverthanks again popey13:55
popeyso a) calling something "crap", b) not providing evidence, generally leads to people not giving it the priority you might like13:55
popeyballoons, mhall119 did we ever have a community call for updated screenshots?13:56
popeyfor USC etc13:56
bobweaverok so now it is not even showing screenshots13:56
bobweaverin unity-preview13:56
bobweaverlike glib has crashed I should reboot13:57
bobweaverbrb13:57
bobweaverthanks again popey13:57
popeyno anytime13:57
mhall119popey: screenshots of what?13:58
popeypreviews of apps in USC13:59
bobweaverworking again after reboot14:02
bobweaverscreenshots pictures from debian that is14:03
popeybobweaver, where are you seeing them?14:05
bobweaveryeah I am uploading pics aws14:05
bobweaveroh I am seeing them n the unity preview14:05
bobweaverin *14:05
bobweaverright click14:05
bobweaverhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/1040069/+attachment/3271804/+files/Screenshot%20from%202012-08-22%2010%3A02%3A06.png14:05
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1040069 in Unity "Unity preview screenshots from debian look like crap" [Undecided,Opinion]14:06
bobweaverI wonder if I can change name of that ?14:06
popeyawesome!14:06
bobweaverthere we go changed from crap to bad :)14:06
popey"old" :)14:06
popeynice one, thanks bobweaver14:06
bobweaverlol yeah I used that in 2008 :;)14:07
bobweaverI wish that I would have know that team unity was doing this there is a ton of stuff that  I can help out with14:08
bobweaverpopey,  changing from bad to "old"14:09
bobweaverthanks again14:09
bobweaverI would love to take screenshots all day long and upload if that helps14:11
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bobweaverHello there I am really really I mean really into Ubuntu TV I am held back by the fact that Unity has no way of saying --force-tv, I want to know what I can do to help this14:30
bobweaverwho is working on this ?14:30
bobweaverwhat would a game plan with it be ?14:31
bobweaverlike in QT it is a form factor that gets called can this happen with unity 3d ?14:31
bobweaverunity --force-tv14:31
bobweaverI keep spinning my dang wheels like here is a example14:32
bobweaver1) more I make qt the more it gets tossed14:32
bobweaver2) if I paint over Unity3d to make it look and feel like Ubuntu TV then there is no --force-tv14:33
bobweaverso that is where I am stuck14:33
bobweaverWhat do I do ?14:33
bobweaverLike I love the New Unity-previews and I can see that working in the TV but not with out a core stuctor14:34
bobweaverI do not work for cananical so even If I do make my own it will mean nothing14:35
bobweaverSo I *BEG* of you please let me in the loop14:35
bobweaverI know C++ real well and also python vala c the list goes on forever14:35
bobweaverI just want to have a great tv14:36
bobweaverand Have been asking this same question for 3 months NOW14:36
bobweaverI dont know what else I can do ...14:36
bobweaverI am practically on my knees Begging someone to trow me a bone14:37
bobweaverATP14:37
popeybobweaver, i dont know the answer to your question, I know that today everyone has their head down because it's feature freeze14:37
popeyperhaps a mail to the unity list?14:37
tedgIsn't there a #ubuntu-tv channel?14:37
popeythere is, but I don't think people there will necessarily be able to detail answers either14:38
bobweavertedg,  I am on that channel alot and have asked that there also thanks14:38
popeyprobably unity-dev list14:38
bobweaverAll I want to do is help :)14:38
tedgI don't think it's going to be --force-tv though.14:38
tedgWe really want the UI to be more dynamic, like not restarting Unity to change.14:38
bobweaverI have many mnay many ideas about that including some that have to do with julius and vox14:39
bobweaverubuntu one as a remote control (aka use it to control the tv also sell movies and what not and SD )14:40
bobweaversceduals Direct that is14:40
bobweaverschedulesdirect *14:40
bobweaverI mean how cool would it be to be able to launch your tv from anywhere where there is ubuntu one14:41
bobweaver(mythweb + altered code + USSO)14:42
smartboyhwbobweaver: Cry to the dev's in #ubuntu-release or #ubuntu-dev is better14:42
bobweaverthere are 2 people at ubuntu-dev lol14:43
smartboyhwMaybe the wrong channel14:43
smartboyhw#ubuntu-devel?14:43
popeysmartboyhw, no, that's not right14:43
smartboyhwI don't know?!?!?!14:43
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bobweaverthanks everyone I do 1 respect you thoughts and 2) think that you are awesome for talking back to me. But I have a feeling that this is more then that and I am going to have to picket in order to get anwser I mean I have asked for 3 months now14:45
popeyyou're presuming someone knows the answer14:45
popey:)14:45
bobweavercorrect14:45
popeythat's not always the case14:45
smartboyhwpopey: Er14:46
bobweaverthanks for the heads up popey  you my fine sir are awesome !14:46
smartboyhw#ubuntu-devel worked for me14:46
popeybut I'd certainly start discussions like this on the unity-design or unity-dev lists14:46
popeysmartboyhw, for design based unity decisions #ubuntu-devel isn't the right place, the mailing list is14:47
bobweaverwill do popey14:47
smartboyhwHmm14:47
bobweaverI still do not see how ubuntu phone is going to run on Unity 3d and not 2d but that is a whole different story sorry OTF14:48
popeybobweaver, magic14:48
smartboyhwpopey: LOl14:48
bobweaverpopey,  lol is Ayatana still going or should I send to different mailing list ?14:49
bobweaverThis is the address that I have unity-design@lists.launchpad.net14:50
popeyeither that or unity-dev14:51
popeydepending on your questions14:51
bobweavercool popey  I guess my real question is where do I go from here ? how to make Ubuntu TV with Unity 3d and who is working on this So I can communicate with them14:53
sil2100Trevinho: hi!15:36
sil2100Trevinho: are you around?15:36
davidcallemhr3, do you know if the libunity fixes for merge strategy are already in distro?15:53
seb128davidcalle, they are not, I just pinged him and sil2100 to get a release out ;-)15:54
davidcalleseb128, thanks :)15:54
seb128davidcalle, yw15:54
mhr3davidcalle, seb128, all changes that were needed were in dee15:55
davidcallemhr3, ok15:56
mhr3and unity itself of course15:57
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mhall119mhr3: is the staging PPA fixed now?16:30
mhall119no more gschema bugs16:30
mhall119I'd like to try the previews again16:30
mhr3staging ppa is never fixed :)16:31
mhr3it just *sometimes* works16:31
mhall119heh, ok, fair enough16:31
mhall119do the parts that were not working before work now?16:31
mhr3well, some parts got fixed, other got more broken16:35
mhr3mhall119, just be patient :)16:35
* mhall119 isn't very good at being patient16:36
mhall119mhr3: can you check the build instructions on http://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity/ and let me know if they're still accurate16:36
mhr3mhall119, can it wait till next week pls?16:37
mhall119thumper: do you want me to remove the Unity 2D buid instructions from unity.ubuntu.com?16:37
mhall119mhr3: sure sure, no rush16:37
mhr3mhall119, cool, pls remind me then16:37
mhall119will do16:37
thumpermhall119: it is still in 12.04, so potentially worth leaving, but with caveats16:37
mhall119thumper: ok, I'll put a note at the top that it's being dropped starting in 12.10, and make a mental note to remove it after we release16:38
bobweaverI have the stagging ppa being used on my computer and it seems to work alright16:48
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sdhhello all, i wonder if anybody running something close to default unity on ubuntu 12.04 can help me confirm some weird behaviour i'm seeing17:54
sdhif i have several windows open for one application, and switch between them with alt-`, i get strange behaviour17:56
sdhif i press alt, tap `, keep holding alt... the windows reorder as my focus shifts through17:58
sdhit's hard to explain but if anybody can spare a minute to check for me, i can explain more :)17:58
bschaefersdh, that should be fixed!18:00
bschaeferin the next update at lease18:00
sdhah, is it known?18:02
sdhi tried looking on launchpad but couldn't figure a good set of search terms18:02
bschaefersdh, this is what you're looking for :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/103566818:03
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1035668 in unity (Ubuntu Precise) "[SRU regression] alt-grave not switching to next window unless 'grave' pressed twice" [High,Fix committed]18:03
bschaefersdh, it also causes that reordering you see18:03
sdhyou are a star, thank you18:04
* sdh reads18:04
bschaeferhaha np :)18:04
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sdhbschaefer: many thanks for your help... having resisted unity for a long time, i am trying to bear with it now. so far things are going well and your help is appreciated :)18:18
bschaefersdh, you're welcome and that's great to hear :)18:19
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sdhso, as i understand the bug entry, the fix has been committed and will come in 12.04.2, is that right?18:23
bschaefersdh, yeah, in 5.16? I think, which should get released soon18:25
sdhbschaefer: thanks - i don't fully understand the ubuntu release mechanisms! will that come down soon if i am daily doing apt-get update/apt-get dist-upgrade ?18:27
bschaefersdh, no worries, Im still getting use to it :) and yup that is where you'll get it!18:28
sdhbschaefer: cool, thanks. maybe if i get time i'll try to read around the topic a bit, thanks again :)18:29
bschaefersdh, np! Here is the list of SRU fixes going in. When it says Fix Released then you are able to get it: https://launchpad.net/unity/+milestone/5.16.018:29
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