| === jonathan__ is now known as jjesse-phone | ||
| jjesse-phone | Ok this is cool on IRC through quassel with the core running on my netbook | 02:27 |
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| jjesse-phone | Now need to configure router to allow it through | 02:31 |
| === jjesse-phone is now known as jjesse-android | ||
| jjesse-android | This works very well in both my phone on wifi and my nexus 7 | 02:40 |
| snap-l | New version of Version Control with Git is out. | 02:43 |
| rick_h_ | broumorning | 11:20 |
| rick_h_ | oops morning | 11:20 |
| snap-l | It's a brouumorning everywhere | 11:46 |
| rick_h_ | heh | 11:46 |
| rick_h_ | started to reply to brousch using make last night but he was offline so tab complete failed | 11:47 |
| rick_h_ | and had that in the input for this morning | 11:47 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I hate that | 11:47 |
| snap-l | Why can't he idle on channel like everyone else? | 11:47 |
| rick_h_ | there he is | 11:56 |
| brousch | Who? | 12:01 |
| rick_h_ | you | 12:02 |
| rick_h_ | I was talking to myself after you left last night when I saw your makefile comment | 12:02 |
| brousch | Hah, sorry | 12:02 |
| brousch | I'm just using your epic Bookie Makefile to scrape out things I need | 12:03 |
| rick_h_ | hah, sorry | 12:03 |
| rick_h_ | start with the smaller ones | 12:03 |
| brousch | No, that one is good | 12:03 |
| rick_h_ | https://github.com/mitechie/breadability/blob/master/Makefile | 12:03 |
| rick_h_ | is lighter and easier | 12:03 |
| brousch | Do you have anything where you read a config to set things up? | 12:04 |
| brousch | Such as the location of the venv on my system would depend on a line in a config file | 12:04 |
| brousch | Or would the Makefile call a Python script that does all the config stuff? | 12:05 |
| rick_h_ | well everything is based off the bookie.ini, which is a copy of sample.ini | 12:05 |
| rick_h_ | and that's passed to all the commands that need it | 12:05 |
| rick_h_ | why the bookie makefile has a BOOKIE_INI or whatever it is | 12:05 |
| brousch | Ah, so when you call a command that needs some config, you pass it the location of the ini | 12:06 |
| brousch | Nice | 12:06 |
| rick_h_ | right | 12:07 |
| rick_h_ | and you can override the ini by changing your make command | 12:07 |
| rick_h_ | make BOOKIE_INI=test.ini run_something | 12:07 |
| rick_h_ | and then the command runs with a different ini file to run that command | 12:07 |
| brousch | That is slick | 12:08 |
| rick_h_ | yea so see: | 12:09 |
| rick_h_ | BOOKIE_INI = bookie.ini | 12:09 |
| rick_h_ | SAURL = $(shell grep sqlalchemy.url $(BOOKIE_INI) | cut -d "=" -f 2 | tr -d " ") | 12:09 |
| rick_h_ | I actually pull out the sqlalchemy url from the ini that's being used for some stuff | 12:10 |
| rick_h_ | and then launch celery background process (for example) | 12:10 |
| rick_h_ | run_celery: BOOKIE_INI=$(BOOKIE_INI) $(CELERY) --pidfile celeryd.pid & | 12:10 |
| brousch | cool | 12:11 |
| brousch | See, I need the epic Bookie Makefile ;) | 12:14 |
| rick_h_ | lol | 12:15 |
| rick_h_ | well if you get stuck let me know. I do some nutsy stuff in there that can throw off new users | 12:15 |
| brousch | I'm not sure how far I'll get on it. Basically as I find a command I have typed a few times I'm adding it in there | 12:16 |
| rick_h_ | good go | 12:17 |
| rick_h_ | try to keep it organized though | 12:17 |
| rick_h_ | keep like things together | 12:17 |
| rick_h_ | makes it easier to manage | 12:17 |
| rick_h_ | testing things, setup/install things, untilities, etc | 12:17 |
| brousch | What is this testing you speak of? | 12:17 |
| rick_h_ | yea right, never mind. Just stick them in the same file one after another without any comments | 12:18 |
| rick_h_ | and call them all things like: do_more | 12:18 |
| brousch | Hey! Like the rest of my code! | 12:18 |
| rick_h_ | :P | 12:18 |
| brousch | Does order matter? | 12:18 |
| rick_h_ | so yes and no | 12:19 |
| rick_h_ | make | 12:19 |
| rick_h_ | without any arguments will run the first target | 12:19 |
| rick_h_ | aside from that, no not really. Order whatever makes sense | 12:19 |
| brousch | So the first target should be help | 12:19 |
| rick_h_ | generally it's a clean and build | 12:20 |
| snap-l | Convention is generallt that make by itself will build | 12:20 |
| rick_h_ | yea | 12:20 |
| rick_h_ | notice my first command is all | 12:20 |
| brousch | I don't like that convention | 12:20 |
| rick_h_ | which will setup things | 12:20 |
| snap-l | It's a grand convention | 12:20 |
| rick_h_ | right, that's what you're saying. Definitely don't do it this way :P | 12:21 |
| snap-l | handed down for generations | 12:21 |
| rick_h_ | otherwise people will start to wonder about you | 12:21 |
| snap-l | and they will start the proceedings for your excommunication | 12:21 |
| rick_h_ | ssssh, he's not supposed to know those meetings are going on | 12:21 |
| snap-l | I would have thought the catering bill we're sticking him with would have given it away? | 12:22 |
| rick_h_ | it's in the mail still | 12:22 |
| brousch | Must be a lot more people involved than I thought | 12:22 |
| snap-l | damn front office | 12:22 |
| rick_h_ | I sent it via the bounched returned address method | 12:22 |
| snap-l | Ah, good call | 12:22 |
| snap-l | I would have just done a direct invoice | 12:23 |
| rick_h_ | I assumed he auto shredded those | 12:23 |
| rick_h_ | this way it looks like he wrote it | 12:23 |
| snap-l | And that's why you're the Senior Excommunicator | 12:23 |
| snap-l | VP | 12:23 |
| snap-l | and I'm just the Operator | 12:26 |
| snap-l | with the Pocket Calculator | 12:26 |
| Blazeix | rick_h_: saw your tweet about CHC. we were planning to meet at the older caribou, weren't we? | 12:32 |
| rick_h_ | Blazeix: I talked with my neighbords who are cruise regulars and they say we'll be fine | 12:34 |
| rick_h_ | bah, neighbors | 12:34 |
| rick_h_ | Blazeix: so since we already didn't pay/show up on one week I'd rather go there if we can | 12:34 |
| snap-l | OK, so Woodward? | 12:38 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: rgr | 12:39 |
| snap-l | Because I think Julie at MH is going to save us a table otherwise. | 12:39 |
| rick_h_ | yea, after talking with my neighbors I got wondering if we'd lose any reservations/issues with the woodward place not paying back to back weeks | 12:39 |
| rick_h_ | since they assured me it clears out rather keep the normal schedule | 12:40 |
| rick_h_ | if if they're wrong...then everyone can hang me from the flag pole for screwing up again | 12:40 |
| snap-l | heh | 12:40 |
| snap-l | We won't hang you from the flagpole | 12:40 |
| snap-l | THat would be too easy. ;) | 12:41 |
| brousch | Hang him by his leopard-print thong | 12:44 |
| * rick_h_ schedules a stop at the summer set mall on my way to CHC tonight | 12:45 | |
| Blazeix | rick_h_: ok, cool. i won't be able to make it anyway, just wanted to double-check :) | 12:59 |
| Blazeix | the manager at the old CHC was going to reserve some tables for us, we should probably cancel that. | 12:59 |
| Blazeix | i can call and do that if nobody else has done that yet | 13:01 |
| rick_h_ | Blazeix: that'd be great. I was going ot bug snap-l since he was close and has chatted with her | 13:03 |
| rick_h_ | but if you can that would be awesome, appreciate it | 13:03 |
| Blazeix | ok, cancelled, i think. the person i spoke to had no idea that the tables were being held | 13:09 |
| Blazeix | since i imagine that it was just an informal thing | 13:09 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I think that was just the person we tend to see there | 13:09 |
| rick_h_ | right | 13:09 |
| Blazeix | so the person left a note that we don't need them held. | 13:09 |
| rick_h_ | cool thanks Blazeix | 13:09 |
| jrwren | if anyone is in AA, I'll be going to fanzoo tech tonight for their thing. | 13:10 |
| jrwren | last month i worked on ubuntu-docs, and that pull request just sat idle, so I won't contribute to that again. | 13:11 |
| rick_h_ | ugh | 13:11 |
| jrwren | idle pull requests are disheartening, but I'm positive. I learned a lot generating it. I just need to find something else. | 13:12 |
| rick_h_ | yea, greg-g was just talking about that last night | 13:12 |
| jrwren | oh? | 13:13 |
| jrwren | where at? g+? | 13:13 |
| rick_h_ | irc | 13:13 |
| jrwren | what channel? | 13:13 |
| rick_h_ | he was hitting refresh on some pull request over and over | 13:13 |
| rick_h_ | in here I thought | 13:13 |
| jrwren | oh. yeah, afternoon. | 13:13 |
| jrwren | last night to me is post-6pm :) | 13:13 |
| rick_h_ | ah, well I didn't recall to be exact :P | 13:14 |
| jrwren | its all good. i was being a time pedant. | 13:15 |
| snap-l | Blazeix: Thanks, good sir | 13:16 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: You have my mobile number, right? :) | 13:25 |
| snap-l | or at least the GV number? ;) | 13:26 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: yea | 13:26 |
| rick_h_ | I had it last time just misread my phone or something | 13:26 |
| snap-l | test, please. ;) | 13:26 |
| * snap-l changed the location again | 13:28 | |
| snap-l | recv | 13:28 |
| snap-l | tx | 13:32 |
| snap-l | Apparently my Squeezebox is in a trippy mood | 14:02 |
| snap-l | Rildrim followed by Ozric Tentacles | 14:02 |
| snap-l | I'm not complaining | 14:02 |
| greg-g | rick_h_: jrwren good news, the pull request was accepted while I slept :) | 14:10 |
| snap-l | greg-g: Awesome news. | 14:11 |
| greg-g | g'morning, btw | 14:11 |
| greg-g | snap-l: so its been two years of OMC? | 14:11 |
| snap-l | Yep. Started on 2010 | 14:11 |
| snap-l | http://openmetalcast.com/2010/08/17/open-metalcast-episode-1-open-the-gates/ | 14:11 |
| greg-g | crazy!! | 14:12 |
| snap-l | Yeah, no kidding | 14:12 |
| greg-g | and awesome. I love it. | 14:12 |
| greg-g | :) | 14:12 |
| snap-l | Thank you. :) | 14:12 |
| brousch | A watched pull request is never merged | 14:13 |
| snap-l | Would love to talk to someone at CC about what I've discovered. :) | 14:13 |
| snap-l | ie: places like bandcamp get musicians thinking about CC | 14:14 |
| snap-l | and places like FMA are essentially where the computer folks play musicians. ;) | 14:14 |
| snap-l | (FMA = Free Music Archive) | 14:15 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I did not realize OMC was that old | 14:16 |
| snap-l | Yep, now it's in the terrible twos. ;) | 14:16 |
| greg-g | quit your whinning | 14:16 |
| ColonelPanic001 | congrats | 14:16 |
| snap-l | Thank you. | 14:16 |
| snap-l | greg-g: :-P | 14:16 |
| greg-g | bbian | 14:17 |
| greg-g | s/n/b/ | 14:17 |
| brousch | NextDayvideo is publishing a bunch of PyConAU videos now | 14:29 |
| rick_h_ | *sigh* | 14:29 |
| === brousch_ is now known as brousch | ||
| jrwren | Error: Settings cannot be imported, because environment variable DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE is undefined. | 14:50 |
| jrwren | ^^^ why doesn't it just deafult to settings and then if that doesn't exist error? | 14:50 |
| rick_h_ | because django and their 'magic settings' crap is irritating | 14:51 |
| jrwren | indeed. | 14:51 |
| rick_h_ | "oh that's a default setting, it's not listed" | 14:51 |
| jrwren | there are some nice things about their settings system, but nothing python doesn't give for free anyway | 14:51 |
| rick_h_ | "oh, well the order the setting files are collapsed isn't what you think" | 14:51 |
| jrwren | oh, i'm fine with default settings and implicity | 14:51 |
| rick_h_ | "oh, just set this setting, which isn't in the docs, but if you check the source..oh that's these two settings then you're set" | 14:52 |
| rick_h_ | I seemed to keep running up against crazy settings fun | 14:52 |
| jrwren | i've heard their docs got a lot better in 1.3 release. | 14:52 |
| jrwren | or was it 1.4? | 14:52 |
| rick_h_ | this was in June | 14:52 |
| jrwren | oh. | 14:53 |
| rick_h_ | after 1.4 | 14:53 |
| jrwren | hell if I know then. | 14:53 |
| rick_h_ | :) | 14:53 |
| jrwren | i'm working on projects on 1.2 | 14:53 |
| rick_h_ | yea, I railed out against how everyone says the docs are so great but I kept finding the docs/source not sync'ing | 14:53 |
| brousch | You can specify a settings file with --settings=/path/to/your/settings | 14:53 |
| rick_h_ | but I'm a hater, so I was using it wrong :P | 14:53 |
| brousch | That works on syncdb, runserver, etc | 14:53 |
| jrwren | test? | 14:54 |
| rick_h_ | the test runner auto ignores some settings stuff by the way | 14:54 |
| rick_h_ | ...grumble... | 14:54 |
| jrwren | yup | 14:55 |
| rick_h_ | one day I'm going to write a book about my inlaws | 15:07 |
| rick_h_ | that's my retirement plan I think | 15:07 |
| greg-g | if only Yehuda Moon was still not subscription only, wolger, snap-l and jrwren would love this one www.yehudamoon.com/index.php?date=2012-08-22 | 15:09 |
| greg-g | (its a $1/mo subscription for 3 comics/wk) | 15:09 |
| snap-l | I could still see it | 16:04 |
| greg-g | oh, really? they may have made the switch to open again | 16:07 |
| greg-g | oh, no, that didn't work | 16:08 |
| greg-g | weird, that link isn't being dealt with intelligently | 16:08 |
| greg-g | apparenlty, if you aren't logged in, you get to see each monday's comic (press previous, it goes back a week). | 16:09 |
| snap-l | Ah, well cool that I could see it | 16:09 |
| snap-l | not sure I'd pay $1 a week for it. :) | 16:09 |
| greg-g | Also, apparenlty, if you load a url for a non-Monday comic and you aren't logged in, you just see the previous monmday's | 16:09 |
| snap-l | month, rather. | 16:09 |
| jrwren | i heard aws's new thingy described as being super expensive for recovery. so maybe I'll stick with s3 | 17:00 |
| rick_h_ | yea, guess the recovery pricing is on some strange per day quota setup | 17:09 |
| snap-l | Leave it to Amazon to cone up with strange pricing | 17:12 |
| greg-g | how expensive? | 17:14 |
| rick_h_ | the one example on TC I think was $2k expensive | 17:16 |
| * greg-g should look at that | 17:20 | |
| rick_h_ | http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/08/glacier/ | 17:22 |
| rick_h_ | is the article that sets up the nightmare scenario | 17:22 |
| === JonathanS is now known as JonathanD | ||
| === _stink__ is now known as _stink_ | ||
| === Blazeix_ is now known as Blazeix | ||
| snap-l | Quick sqlalchemy question: how do I return two values from a query? | 20:07 |
| snap-l | I'm looking to do something like "select id, max(somedate) from foo where ..." | 20:07 |
| jcastro | rick_h_: ok I've spent a few nights investigating home automation | 20:11 |
| jcastro | I am ready for next nerd brain-dump | 20:11 |
| jrwren | snap-l: what would that query even do? | 20:24 |
| jrwren | about 1/2 way down the page on literal sql: http://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/rel_0_7/orm/tutorial.html | 20:27 |
| jrwren | most ORMs don't support projections since it doesn't work with identity map, which is part of the point of using an ORM | 20:27 |
| jrwren | as soon as you are projecting you are in a special world where the orm is used only as a sql generation tool. | 20:28 |
| Blazeix | snap-l: also see http://docs.sqlalchemy.org/en/rel_0_7/orm/tutorial.html#counting | 20:35 |
| Blazeix | the second codeblock | 20:35 |
| Blazeix | oh, i was assuming you're doing a max(somedate) over a grouping | 20:37 |
| snap-l | n/m. I think I'm on to somethihng | 20:38 |
| snap-l | or I'm on something. | 20:38 |
| waldo323_ | jcastro, what have you found out so far? | 20:40 |
| rick_h_ | jcastro: heading out to CHC, drop what you think and I'll reply when I get there | 22:07 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: bring it to CHC and I can see if I can help | 22:07 |
| snap-l | rick_h_: n/m, fugured itout | 23:15 |
| rick_h_ | snap-l: cool | 23:15 |
| jrwren | rick_h_: any reason pyinotify instead of watchdog ? | 23:40 |
| rick_h_ | jrwren: no, just that watchdog had some limitation I think | 23:40 |
| rick_h_ | watchdog can run a command, but doesn't have access at the raw files I think? I'd have to look again | 23:40 |
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