| thafreak | installed updates on my linux mint 12 laptop...rebooted...they changed the desktop completely | 15:27 |
|---|---|---|
| thafreak | wtf | 15:28 |
| yano | :o | 15:28 |
| thafreak | i was all used to how it used to work, then they up and change it all on me... | 15:28 |
| paultag | what is it now? | 15:28 |
| thafreak | one of their new mate or cinnamon or something | 15:28 |
| thafreak | it doesn't act at all like gnome3 | 15:28 |
| thafreak | the one I had was like half gnome3, half gnome2 | 15:29 |
| thafreak | noe it's like straight oldschool gnome2 | 15:29 |
| paultag | legit | 15:29 |
| thafreak | but i didn't tell it to do that...not cool | 15:29 |
| paultag | it's mint | 15:29 |
| paultag | they know what you want | 15:29 |
| thafreak | yeah...they knew I was about to re-install :) | 15:29 |
| thafreak | i was going to fresh install mint 13...but not sure now | 15:30 |
| thafreak | Anyone have linux with hdmi audio working? If so, which distro? | 15:30 |
| paultag | Debian works with that | 15:31 |
| paultag | at least on the Pi | 15:31 |
| thafreak | nice, that's good to know | 15:32 |
| paultag | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgYkpk9nJnE | 15:32 |
| paultag | sweet daddy yankee | 15:32 |
| thafreak | I think my CC just got charged by Allied Electronics for my pi order | 15:32 |
| thafreak | where can i buy a viewtron | 15:37 |
| paultag | inorite? | 15:37 |
| thafreak | i think this guy is who jack donaghe character is based... | 15:38 |
| thafreak | used netboot installer to set uop new temp desktop for myself... | 15:40 |
| thafreak | couldn't decide which desktop to install | 15:40 |
| thafreak | so I installed them all | 15:40 |
| paultag | fail | 15:40 |
| thafreak | well, except for kubuntu | 15:40 |
| thafreak | just xfce, lxde, and reg unity or whatever | 15:40 |
| thafreak | meh, I like variety :) | 15:40 |
| paultag | debian + hairy candy | 15:41 |
| thafreak | what's that again....awesome based | 15:41 |
| paultag | yeah | 15:41 |
| paultag | @ http://archive.pault.ag/ | 15:41 |
| thafreak | no thanks | 15:41 |
| thafreak | imma play some games on this bitch | 15:41 |
| paultag | I don't get it :) | 15:41 |
| paultag | you can float windows | 15:41 |
| paultag | and it can do full-screen correctly | 15:41 |
| thafreak | don't really feel like learning a new windowing paradigm...unity was exhausting enough | 15:42 |
| thafreak | hence the reason I put xfce and lxde on here | 15:42 |
| * paultag shrugs | 15:42 | |
| paultag | lxde is bleh | 15:42 |
| paultag | xfce is great | 15:42 |
| thafreak | maybe later...when i have free time... | 15:42 |
| thafreak | so like when I'm retired | 15:42 |
| thafreak | which I originally wanted to be almost retired by now... | 15:43 |
| thafreak | not seeming to make my life goals happen | 15:43 |
| paultag | i'll be retired soon enough | 15:43 |
| thafreak | instead, I'm trying to setup Alfresco, and a pile of other java based crap for a bunch of scientists | 15:43 |
| paultag | I'm such an old man | 15:44 |
| thafreak | so I'm thinking about setting up my own school... | 15:44 |
| thafreak | or more like an academy | 15:44 |
| thafreak | actually more like a guild | 15:44 |
| thafreak | for sysadmins... | 15:45 |
| thafreak | so people can learn the way of sysadminery much like people of old learned carpentry or blacksmithery | 15:45 |
| thafreak | or farmery | 15:45 |
| paultag | aye | 15:45 |
| thafreak | or alchemy | 15:45 |
| thafreak | actually, it's more like alchemy | 15:46 |
| paultag | I wonder if I can retire by 30. | 15:46 |
| thafreak | good luck | 15:46 |
| thafreak | i have a friend who did... | 15:46 |
| thafreak | for a while | 15:46 |
| thafreak | but he had a better paying job than you...and nothing to do with his money | 15:46 |
| paultag | thafreak: I'm about to buy a condo in the next few months, I think. | 15:46 |
| paultag | I should be able to pay that off quickly enough | 15:47 |
| thafreak | then you won't retire for a while :) | 15:47 |
| thafreak | uh huh... | 15:47 |
| paultag | move to ohio | 15:47 |
| thafreak | paying it off is only half the battle | 15:47 |
| paultag | meh | 15:47 |
| thafreak | need income to pay for repairs/maintenance | 15:47 |
| paultag | I am more then able | 15:47 |
| thafreak | owning sucks | 15:47 |
| paultag | I worked consturction | 15:47 |
| paultag | there's not much I can't do | 15:48 |
| thafreak | so you won't be retired, you'll just be a handyman... | 15:48 |
| thafreak | part time | 15:48 |
| paultag | not bad. | 15:48 |
| paultag | I'd be fine with that | 15:48 |
| thafreak | then do it | 15:48 |
| thafreak | don't get in a relationship though | 15:48 |
| thafreak | ever | 15:48 |
| thafreak | or you won't retire till your 60+ | 15:49 |
| paultag | mmm. | 15:49 |
| thafreak | you need to be celebit in order to retire by 30 I think | 15:49 |
| Cheri703 | .... | 15:50 |
| thafreak | you might be able to pull off 35-40, if you're at least sterrile | 15:50 |
| thafreak | what, tesla was celebit...that dude was badass | 15:50 |
| Cheri703 | yeah, you'd think that "I make $x, <significant other> makes $y, therefore together we should have $(x+y)!" but...that doesn't ever seem to happen | 15:51 |
| paultag | yar | 15:51 |
| paultag | because expenses go up a bit :) | 15:51 |
| paultag | (dates, gifts, etc) | 15:51 |
| thafreak | yep, plus more people who rely on you, more income you need...bigger house, extra cars...blah | 15:51 |
| thafreak | well yeah, that too | 15:51 |
| paultag | I'm going to stick with Porches. The kids can be stuffed in the back. | 15:52 |
| thafreak | think about it...to retire by 30, you need enough money to keep you going for another 60-100years | 15:52 |
| paultag | erm, Porsches | 15:52 |
| paultag | thafreak: I'll move to Ohio | 15:52 |
| Cheri703 | even "I have a roommate, and together as a roommate we have $(x+y) so significant other replacing roommate should be equal" yeah...no | 15:52 |
| thafreak | still.... | 15:52 |
| paultag | thafreak: sell my condo, get a mansion | 15:52 |
| thafreak | 60+ years of income needs to be coming from somewheres | 15:52 |
| paultag | drugs | 15:52 |
| paultag | I can sell drugs | 15:52 |
| Cheri703 | especially if you are with someone who has VASTLY VASTLY different money habits than you >_> | 15:52 |
| paultag | Cheri703++ | 15:53 |
| thafreak | then your not retired :) | 15:53 |
| thafreak | selling drugs is still working | 15:53 |
| paultag | thafreak: all the drugs will make it seem like fun | 15:53 |
| * Cheri703 is a saver, husband is...not | 15:53 | |
| thafreak | you don't want to retire...you want to become tesla | 15:53 |
| paultag | mmmm. | 15:53 |
| thafreak | as do I... | 15:53 |
| paultag | I'd love to be a F/OSS hermit | 15:53 |
| paultag | like Joey Hess | 15:53 |
| thafreak | he worked...for himself, inventing awesome stuff | 15:53 |
| paultag | and joey | 15:54 |
| thafreak | barely scraping by though | 15:54 |
| thafreak | same different...only not as earth shattering... | 15:54 |
| thafreak | but who can live up to tesla's brain | 15:54 |
| Cheri703 | I am trying to learn about "The Bug Genie" and set up a support workflow :s | 15:57 |
| thafreak | paultag: your new mission, build a viewtron style UI using curses or something for the PI... | 15:59 |
| thafreak | bug genie? is it f/oss? | 15:59 |
| thafreak | paultag: call the project: rasptron | 16:00 |
| Cheri703 | yeah www.thebuggenie.com | 16:00 |
| thafreak | rasptron 2000 | 16:00 |
| thafreak | I'm looking for a good general ticket system | 16:00 |
| Cheri703 | I don't know if this is good yet, but it's got LOTS of features :) | 16:00 |
| Cheri703 | looks pretty decent | 16:00 |
| paultag | thafreak: hahaha | 16:01 |
| paultag | that'd be boss | 16:01 |
| thafreak | yes...yes it would | 16:01 |
| thafreak | hmm...might give bug genie a try for work | 16:02 |
| thafreak | so, it's not just bug tracking, it's basically project management too | 16:04 |
| thafreak | basically, it seems to be a php version of trac | 16:04 |
| thafreak | I'm not happy with redmine...maybe this will be better than redmine...that would be awesome | 16:05 |
| thafreak | I know I've asked this before, but what is everyone's graphics card preferences these days... | 17:03 |
| thafreak | looking to get a pci-e 16x card, lower end, no more than $50 | 17:04 |
| thafreak | i know nvidia's exist at that price, but is AMD better? | 17:04 |
| canthus13 | Depends on what you're wanting it for. you can definitely find an intel card in that range. (Yes. intel.. I have an MSI X3000 card...) | 17:21 |
| canthus13 | There are quadros that price... they're used, though. | 17:22 |
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| === Unit193 is now known as Guest32817 | ||
| TheMaster | Guest53503: Mind if I ask why debian testing/unstable switched wget to gnutls rather than openssl? | 23:14 |
| Guest53503 | TheMaster: license issues, why, what's up | 23:15 |
| Guest53503 | omg I'm a guest | 23:15 |
| === Guest53503 is now known as paultag | ||
| TheMaster | Was wondering, have more issues with that one so recompiled and figured maybe I should finally ask. | 23:15 |
| === paultag is now known as Guest94632 | ||
| Guest94632 | the fsck | 23:16 |
| TheMaster | Need to identify, services were doen. | 23:16 |
| TheMaster | down. | 23:16 |
| Guest94632 | oh, aye | 23:16 |
| === Guest94632 is now known as taggerdoodles | ||
| taggerdoodles | this'll do until nickserv stops acting up | 23:17 |
| TheMaster | It's good now, though you may need /ns release paultag mylittlepony | 23:18 |
| taggerdoodles | aye | 23:18 |
| TheMaster | Chances of it going back to openssl? | 23:18 |
| taggerdoodles | TheMaster: http://people.gnome.org/~markmc/openssl-and-the-gpl.html | 23:19 |
| taggerdoodles | TheMaster: OpenSSL can't be used with GPGPL code | 23:19 |
| canthus13 | taggerdoodles... Heh. | 23:19 |
| taggerdoodles | due to a advertiseing thigner | 23:19 |
| taggerdoodles | fucking lag | 23:20 |
| taggerdoodles | canthus13: :) | 23:20 |
| taggerdoodles | canthus13: and old nick of mine | 23:20 |
| taggerdoodles | TheMaster: rebuilding for personal use is just fine, since you don't redistrib | 23:20 |
| TheMaster | Other than scp. ;) | 23:21 |
| TheMaster | And dang. | 23:21 |
| taggerdoodles | TheMaster: (and neither clasuse kicks in) | 23:21 |
| taggerdoodles | clause* | 23:21 |
| taggerdoodles | TheMaster: I can help you write an apt-get source script to rebuild with openssl if you need to | 23:21 |
| taggerdoodles | but it won't be distributed like that, since it's not legal | 23:21 |
| TheMaster | Though you may not like it, I built 1.14 with openssl on sid, and put it on wheezy. | 23:22 |
| taggerdoodles | hehehe | 23:22 |
| taggerdoodles | you know sbuild works, aye? :) | 23:22 |
| taggerdoodles | it'll be fine now that're in freeze for the most part, th | 23:23 |
| TheMaster | .14 because I need a feature, and openssl becuase gnutls had a few issues with some sites, namely https://wiki.ubuntu.com | 23:23 |
| taggerdoodles | aye | 23:23 |
| TheMaster | pianobar, with a couple others and now wget I build, so not much. | 23:25 |
| taggerdoodles | TheMaster: if you install all your build-deps, and replace gnutls with openssl, you should be able to apt-get source package --compile | 23:25 |
| taggerdoodles | TheMaster: then dpkg -i the resulting deb | 23:25 |
| taggerdoodles | should | 23:26 |
| taggerdoodles | not sure what wonky shit some other maintainers do | 23:26 |
| TheMaster | That's at least worth a try in a VM, I put openssl in the ./configure options. | 23:26 |
| taggerdoodles | yeah, you might have to | 23:27 |
| andygraybeal_ | so scp isn't going to be in ubuntu? | 23:27 |
| taggerdoodles | but iirc they're compat | 23:27 |
| andygraybeal_ | i'm confused! | 23:27 |
| taggerdoodles | andygraybeal_: I doubt seriously we'd loose scp | 23:27 |
| andygraybeal_ | what all are we losing? | 23:28 |
| taggerdoodles | I dunno | 23:29 |
| taggerdoodles | nothing, I think | 23:29 |
| taggerdoodles | this thing has existed for a long time | 23:29 |
| andygraybeal_ | ah nevermind then im' confused. | 23:29 |
| andygraybeal_ | ignore me :) | 23:29 |
| taggerdoodles | kk | 23:29 |
| taggerdoodles | /ignore andygraybeal_ ALL | 23:29 |
| andygraybeal_ | ahhah | 23:29 |
| * taggerdoodles updates desktop-base | 23:29 | |
| TheMaster | s/andygraybeal_/*!*@ubuntu/member/unit193/ | 23:29 |
| taggerdoodles | :) | 23:30 |
| TheMaster | Would do you good.... | 23:30 |
| TheMaster | :D | 23:30 |
| TheMaster | taggerdoodles: Is there a chance that I could get gnutls working with the sites that it currently doesn't? Or should I actually look this up? ;) | 23:33 |
| taggerdoodles | TheMaster: I don't know -- I've never had a problem with it, and I only know of the legal issues because of the DD bootcamp | 23:33 |
| taggerdoodles | I can research it in an hour or two if it's really a problem | 23:34 |
| TheMaster | wget -dO /dev/null https://wiki.ubuntu.com for example, I hit it in wheezy and sid, though wheezy will have another issue because of SNI. | 23:34 |
| taggerdoodles | ERROR: The certificate of `wiki.ubuntu.com' is not trusted. | 23:35 |
| taggerdoodles | The certificate's owner does not match hostname `wiki.ubuntu.com' | 23:35 |
| taggerdoodles | hahaha, cool | 23:35 |
| TheMaster | Second isn't a real problem. | 23:35 |
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