[00:00] <jagginess> semitones, if you type "pwd<enter>" that gives you a hint
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> pwd   print working directory
[00:00] <jagginess> semitones, try the builtin "basename" command
[00:00] <semitones> jagginess: ok, thanks
[00:00] <semitones> soliloquy1: maybe ls can be configured to do that -- I'll have to check
[00:01] <jagginess> semitones, "help test<enter>" you'd probably want to use a test if there's a file in existence
[00:01] <ubuntu_> does NFS have the ability to do other things then just file sharing.... like can it do the equivalent of the smb/cifs protocal which does much more then just file sharing. i.e printers , AD , ...etc
[00:02] <semitones> jagginess: pwd worked. What am I using help test to accomplish?
[00:02] <marcus_> any one know why fglrx dotn working if its compiled right instaled right etc eetc etc
[00:02] <marcus_>  no errors in  build logs
[00:02] <jagginess> semitones, that's just a hint table for bash scripting
[00:03] <casey> kubuntu and xubuntu are just ubuntu with some packages installed, it's pretty misleading really.
[00:03] <marcus_> so?
[00:03] <marcus_> is damn 2 am here and i rly want to go to bed
[00:03] <Farfy> ljack: downloading now, about 6 minutes
[00:03] <ljack> Farfy: OK.
[00:03] <no-n> is there a terminal program that tells you whether you need to restart to complete an upgrade?
[00:03] <marcus_> so is anyone even close to tell me how to install this stupid ati drivers on 3.5 kerbel or not
[00:04] <jagginess> no-n, only really need to reboot if you installed a new kernel
[00:04] <no-n> okay
[00:04] <ljack> Farfy: I'm not 100% sure if this will work, but there will be no harm in trying and at least it'll update your drivers.
[00:04] <jagginess> no-n, if the menu doesnt refresh (sometimes it happens), simply relogin
[00:04] <no-n> "the menu"?
[00:04] <jagginess> no-n, y
[00:04] <soliloquy1> marcus_: ljack can probably help you, but he's dealing with another driver issue this instant - if you wait, he may be able to help you too
[00:05] <jagginess> no-n, sometimes the menu (or the dock whatever unity uses), doesnt always refresh.. a relogin doesnt hurt..
[00:05] <no-n> oh, right
[00:05] <no-n> I'm using i3
[00:05] <marcus_> oki doki
[00:05] <Farfy> ljack: willing to try anything at this point, really wanna get this going, ty for the help
[00:05] <ljack> marcus__: Oh I'll help you install a driver.
[00:05] <marcus_> but soliloquy1 i rly read everything in google and dont find anyone who got this crap working on lubudubu with 3.5 kernel
[00:05] <soliloquy1> marcus_: unfortunately drivers are one of those things I'm dreadful at fixing.
[00:05] <ljack> If that's what you need.
[00:05] <ljack> marcus_: What is the problem?
[00:06] <soliloquy1> what are you trying to do precisely - I don't understand??
[00:06] <ljack> xperiamaniac: How'd it go?
[00:06] <xperiamaniac> am back and it did not help :)
[00:06] <soliloquy1> xperiamaniac: what happened?
[00:06] <marcus_> ljack:  problem is after i download from ati site patch it  make deb install deb's reboot
[00:06] <marcus_>  fglrx dotn works
[00:06] <xperiamaniac> no luck
[00:06] <marcus_> and build log dont show any errors
[00:06] <ljack> :(
[00:06] <xperiamaniac> took me almost 20 mins to load to the desktop
[00:06] <soliloquy1> yeah, I thought so. unity 2d is a resource hog. try LXDE. bummer though!
[00:07] <ljack> marcus_: Can't you just download the run file for your driver?
[00:07] <marcus_> [   765.008] (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules/extra-modules.dpkg-tmp/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xorg/extra-modules/extra-modules.dpkg-tmp/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: undefined symbol: noXFree86DRIExtension
[00:07] <soliloquy1> LXDE is the lightest desktop environment out there, xperia.
[00:07] <ljack> And run it to install and bam, it's done.
[00:07] <marcus_> ljack:  i did
[00:07] <marcus_>  without patch for 3.5 its not even compiling
[00:07] <soliloquy1> and what happened then, marcus?
[00:07] <soliloquy1> when you patched it, I mean
[00:07] <soliloquy1> what's the error - pastebin them, please
[00:07] <marcus_> i compiled it
[00:07] <soliloquy1> you could be missing a dependency?
[00:07] <marcus_>  installed seems without errors
[00:07] <soliloquy1> and then doesn't run??
[00:07] <marcus_>  but after reboot fglrx dont works
[00:08] <soliloquy1> uhuh.
[00:08] <marcus_> only error is in xorg logs
[00:08] <xperiamaniac> ho do i get LXDE?
[00:08] <marcus_> the one i pasted
[00:08] <soliloquy1> why are you trying to run fglrx?
[00:08] <ljack> xperiamaniac: Open up the Ubuntu Software Center, search for "LXDE" and click on install.
[00:08] <TeamRocket1233c> LXDE or Xfce.
[00:08] <soliloquy1> xperiamaniac: ubuntu software center
[00:08] <marcus_> soliloquy1:  laptop duble ati cards?
[00:08] <xperiamaniac> okies
[00:08] <xperiamaniac> lemmi chk
[00:08] <marcus_> my laptop is freeking to hot withotu  this drivers
[00:09] <marcus_>  on normal its going insane hot
[00:09] <marcus_> i compensate it by messing with cpu freqs but its not a solution
[00:09] <ljack> marcus_: Go to a better channel like ##linux, more advanced users are there for better support.
[00:09] <ljack> Or #debian.
[00:09] <TeamRocket1233c> xperiamaniac: sudo apt-get install lxde-desktop
[00:09] <marcus_> hmm
[00:10] <TeamRocket1233c> xperiamaniac: Or sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[00:10] <marcus_> kinda i can ask on sabayon but its ubuntu distro problem not any other xD
[00:10] <TeamRocket1233c> xperiamaniac: Either command installs LXDE.
[00:10] <xperiamaniac> the thing is i am unable to execute any applications in ubuntu as well
[00:10] <soliloquy1> ljack: yeah #debian (pretend you're running debian) or ##linux will have a better bet
[00:10] <soliloquy1> how are you talking to us xperiamaniac?
[00:10] <xperiamaniac> thru windows
[00:10] <xperiamaniac> xp
[00:11] <xperiamaniac> got pidgin installed
[00:11] <xperiamaniac> :P
[00:11] <soliloquy1> if it's really not working, you can boot into command line mode and do sudo apt-get install lubuntu desktop that way
[00:11] <xperiamaniac> :)
[00:11] <ljack> xperiamaniac: In that case, you'll have to install Lubuntu using Wubi.
[00:11] <xperiamaniac> hmmm
[00:11] <xperiamaniac> workin on it
[00:11] <soliloquy1> let me just tell you how to do that
[00:11] <xperiamaniac> :)
[00:11] <TeamRocket1233c> xperiamaniac: Either burn off a Lubuntu LiveCD or a Xubuntu LiveCD and try it out and see how it goes.
[00:11] <soliloquy1> ljack: you can add the lxde to ubuntu using wubi?
[00:11] <ljack> xperiamaniac: When it says Desktop Enviroment, set it to Lubuntu
[00:12] <TeamRocket1233c> xperiamaniac: You'll need at least FreeISOBurner in order to burn off the disc though.
[00:12] <devvie> Speaking of Wubi installs... Would anyone here know how to recover or "undelete" files from a Wubi install of Ubuntu in a hard-drive that says it's empty?
[00:12] <ljack> soliloquy1: No, but you can install Lubuntu using Wubi.
[00:12] <soliloquy1> ljack: so essentially do a clean install?
[00:12] <ljack> Yep
[00:12] <TeamRocket1233c> Although my fave lightweight distro is probably #!.
[00:13] <Guest81082> can anybody tell me how to view the files I have "synched" on ubuntu One?
[00:13] <soliloquy1> xperiamaniac: I think ljack is right and lubuntu via wubi is your best bet - your current ubuntu is apparently very trashed, so I would just startover
[00:13] <soliloquy1> teamrocket1233c: it's What??? #!?
[00:13] <ljack> Farfy: Download complete?
[00:13] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: #! = Crunchbang.
[00:13] <xperiamaniac> hmmmm
[00:14] <xperiamaniac> started the lubuntu download thru wubi...
[00:14] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: Installed it as a replacement for Win98 on my sad, sorry-ass 13-yr-old PC, and it works great on the little resources it has.
[00:14] <xperiamaniac> :)
[00:14] <ljack> xperiamaniac: Okay
[00:14] <xperiamaniac> lets see how dat goes...
[00:14] <Farfy> ljack: done downloading, shall i install?
[00:14] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: Put Crunchbang on a basic Vista-era PC, and it would fly.
[00:14] <xperiamaniac> Thanks a lot guys... :)
[00:14] <soliloquy1> teamrocket1233c: yeah, it looks great.
[00:14] <ljack> xperiamaniac: Then, you can just launch Lubuntu; it's pretty light so you shouldn't have any problems.
[00:14] <soliloquy1> xperiamaniac: no problem
[00:14] <xperiamaniac> :)
[00:14] <soliloquy1> yeah, it should be smooth sailing from here
[00:15] <f00bar80> v1c3, how to check/disable/ makes resolv.conf the used dns source
[00:15] <soliloquy1> and lxde is pretty nice and easy to use
[00:15] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: Only uses 50 megs of RAM when idling too, on 128 megs, that's half your RAM, but on 2 gigs or more, that's barely any RAM being used at all.
[00:15] <xperiamaniac> was also downloadin the server edition for ma desktop
[00:15] <xperiamaniac> :)
[00:15] <soliloquy1> that could be a big part of your issue, xperia - if you were running server flavor ubuntu!
[00:15] <ljack> Farfy: Okay, open terminal and type in "sudo" and enter you password. Then type "cd Downloads" then "./<name of file"
[00:15] <xperiamaniac> nah
[00:15] <Guest81082> I signed up with UbuntuOne and synched everything, but now I can't access the stuff that should be in my UbuntuOne folder in the cloud.
[00:16] <ljack> xperiamaniac: lol
[00:16] <Farfy> ljack: sure thing, just a moment
[00:16] <xperiamaniac> i am downloadin dat on the desktop
[00:16] <xperiamaniac> dis one is da laptop wid 512 mb
[00:16] <xperiamaniac> O:-)
[00:16] <xperiamaniac> lol
[00:16] <marcus_> fuck it im going bakc to sabayon on #buuntu are only noobs who got no clue .. on #debian i got -v cuz its not ubuntu and i got ubuntu
[00:16] <marcus_>  this is stupid
[00:16] <ljack> marcus_: Fine...
[00:17] <ljack> But Ubuntu is made for newer users to Linux.
[00:17] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: Especially when compared to the likes of Vista which uses I think half a gig of RAM when idling, but when you have a lot of software running on it, it uses up to a gig, which is half your RAM when running on 2 gigs.
[00:17] <ljack> I said, you can use a more advanced channel...
[00:17] <v1c3> f00bar80, i dont know how to or if its possible.. think about using wicd an removing networkmanager.
[00:17] <soliloquy1> marcus_:  ##linux is your best bet
[00:18] <devvie> Can anyone here help with recovering/"undeleting" files, or is there a channel that would have more experience with that? :x
[00:18] <Jordan_U> !undelete | devvie
[00:18] <tbruce> \quit ba-bye
[00:19] <tbruce> \quit
[00:19] <rimbaud> anyone here uses amnesic incognito live system?
[00:19] <devvie> Jordan_U: Thanks, I'll read that now!
[00:19] <Jordan_U> devvie: You're welcome.
[00:19] <Farfy> ljack: permission denied
[00:19] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: Basically, Vista or Win7 requires at least 2 gigs to run decently, and you'd be better off using that much RAM with Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Mint, or the GNOME Shell or KDE spins of Fedora, Crunchbang or Lubuntu I think requires only 128 megs to run efficiently, and I think 256 megs with Xubuntu.
[00:19] <ljack> Fafry
[00:20] <ljack> Farfy: try "sudo ./[name of driver].run"
[00:20] <xperiamaniac> did you have the files on your computer at any point of time?
[00:20] <Farfy> ljack: k
[00:20] <TeamRocket1233c> soliloquy1: I know Crunchbang will run efficiently on 128 megs 'cause that's how much the box I have it installed on has.
[00:21] <Guest81082> thanks alot.
[00:21] <ljack> CrunchBang for me uses only about 80MB without any programs running.
[00:21] <xperiamaniac> devvie:did u have the files on your computer at any point of time?
[00:21] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: When I looked at the Conky with nothing running, it was using 50 megs.
[00:21] <Farfy> ljack: command not found
[00:21] <ljack> Yes I sometimes can get as low as that too.
[00:22] <devvie> xperiamaniac: Yeah, everything is still there - The hard-drive just lost all of its partitions.
[00:22] <ljack> Farfy, okay, in that case just double click the file. xD
[00:22] <ljack> It should work.
[00:22] <Jordan_U> Farfy: ljack: Installing the driver that way should never be the first thing to do. First try installing the drivers via the "Additioinal Drivers" tool (jockey-gtk).
[00:22] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Now if you were to build up a minimalist Ubuntu setup from a base command-line install...
[00:23] <ljack> Jordan_U: no harm in installing the proper driver...
[00:23] <anxel> hola
[00:23] <anxel> alguien me puede ayudar con una cosa
[00:23] <anxel> ?
[00:23] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Which is basically what I would do if I didn't wanna use either Xubuntu or Lubuntu while still having a low-resource OS...
[00:23] <ljack> anxel: Please speak English here.
[00:24] <anxel> ok
[00:24] <ljack> TeamRocket1233c: So would I.
[00:24] <Jordan_U> ljack: Yes, there is. Among other things it will break when Farfy tries to update his system. The "proper" driver is the one packaged and tested for Ubuntu.
[00:24] <ljack> Jordan_U: Both still can be done.
[00:25] <ljack> Farfy: Any luck?
[00:25] <Jordan_U> !es | anxel
[00:25] <Farfy> ljack: white box opens, named *filename (~/Downloads) -gedit, sits there does nothing, cant close it
[00:25] <Jordan_U> ljack: Both what can still be done?
[00:25] <ljack> Farfy: uh, just do what Jordan_U says then
[00:26] <anxel> I have Lubuntu and let me know how I can navigate with permissions to copy files to the folder / home
[00:26] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Seriously though a Ubuntu setup with X+Fluxbox, no login manager, a terminal window for software installation, Thunar for the file manager, and Dillo for the browser, would barely use up anything, and would probably use less than a stock Crunchbang install.
[00:26] <ljack> I'd say about 30MB for that TeamRocket1233c.
[00:26] <Farfy> ljack: ive tried using the Additional drivers before, switched it to the 'recommended' driver, no change
[00:26] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Plus it would just look cool.
[00:26] <ljack> Yep
[00:26] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Fluxbox actually looks really cool.
[00:26] <ljack> Farfy: :(
[00:27] <Jordan_U> Farfy: I presume that you rebooted after enabling the driver?
[00:27] <ljack> TeamRocket1233c: I've never actually tried it. Is it like Openbox?
[00:27] <_Tristan> I've been using aptitude since forever, and apparently it's fucked up my packages (using 12.04). Is there a way to unfuck it?
[00:27] <Farfy> Jordan_U: yes
[00:27] <Jordan_U> Farfy: Can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[00:27] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Basically, it's pretty much a refined Openbox.
[00:27] <Jordan_U> !language | _Tristan
[00:28] <Farfy> Jordan_U: Im not able to use the ubuntu machine for much, talking to you on my windows machine and moving back and forth, is there a way to export that to a file i can send to windows machine to paste?
[00:28] <Jordan_U> _Tristan: Aptitude doesn't work properly with multi-arch. What problem are you seeing specifically?
[00:28] <_Tristan> my bad. I meant.. uh... fudge :)
[00:28] <CAkEBAll> anyone on?
[00:28] <Trekking82> Hello, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 from the LiveCD. Is there a GUI program that will enable me to use GPG? (GUI for encrypting/decrypting messages, etc) :)
[00:28] <_Tristan> Jordan_U: wine1.5 cannot be upgraded because of some wine1.5-1386:1386 boulderdashery
[00:28] <ljack> CAkEBAll: Yes.
[00:28] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: And you just can't beat the look of a Fluxbox desktop with an open terminal window slaving away installing software or whatever.
[00:29] <CAkEBAll> does anyone know
[00:29] <CAkEBAll> how to stop
[00:29] <CAkEBAll> ubuntu from dimming
[00:29] <CAkEBAll> every 10 seconds
[00:29] <Jordan_U> _Tristan: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get upgrade"?
[00:29] <_Tristan> Jordan_U: sure, in just a minute
[00:29] <WeThePeople> cakeball, that might be your screen saver
[00:29] <ljack> TeamRocket1233c: I will install it. :P
[00:29] <CAkEBAll> how do i disable it
[00:29] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Terminal window installation is not only quicker and uses less resources than Synaptic, but it gives you a lot of geek points and just looks sick.
[00:30] <WeThePeople> cakeball, what distro u using
[00:30] <ljack> TeamRocket1233c: Using the Terminal feels powerful. :D
[00:30] <CAkEBAll> ubuntu
[00:30] <CAkEBAll> 12.04
[00:30] <CAkEBAll> LTS
[00:30] <CAkEBAll> 32 bit
[00:30] <FloodBot1> CAkEBAll: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:30] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Well, burn off a Ubuntu minimal install disc, do a base command-line install, and then set it up for a minimalist Fluxbox desktop.
[00:30] <Trekking82> Will Seahorse enable me to encrypt/decrypt plaintext messages?
[00:31] <Hamatto> test
[00:31] <Jordan_U> Farfy: It is already a file (at the path /var/log/Xorg.0.log) which you can copy to your Windows machine. Is the Ubuntu machine connected to the network? Installing ssh might make things a lot easier.
[00:31] <ljack> TeamRocket1233c: I will have to do it tomorrow.
[00:31] <WeThePeople> cakeball, idk in 12.04 but in 10.04 to acces the screensaver gui its in system, preferences
[00:32] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: The only command that would really be needed in that situation would be sudo apt-get install. Pretty much about as easy as doing a default Ubuntu install, you just gotta do a little more work to get a desktop set up.
[00:32] <Trekking82> Can someone please help me with GPG encryption on Ubuntu 12.04?
[00:33] <ljack> TeamRocket1233c: I suppose the minimal .iso comes with the login manager and needed stuff?
[00:33] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Screwed around with that last year on Ubuntu Server 11.10, it pretty much works the same way a base command-line install of the desktop version would when it comes to setting up a GUI.
[00:35] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: And if you want a graphical login manager, you have to install it yourself when going with a base command-line install, otherwise, login via the command-line and pull up the GUI from there with startx.
[00:35] <Trekking82> Am I in the right place to ask for help with setting up GPG?
[00:35] <ljack> Ah I'd rather login using the command line.
[00:36] <Dr_Willis> !minimal
[00:36] <Budd> Trekking82: this is a reasonable place to ask.
[00:36] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: I personally wouldn't use a login manager in that case anyways 'cause it's unneeded.
[00:36] <ljack> Yep.
[00:36] <critt> Could I get some help with the System updates? Just updated now my cairo=dock won't load on startup. Have searched for workarounds. Nothinging working.
[00:36] <_Tristan> Jordan_U: this isn't exactly what you asked for... but I think it counts as helpful: http://pastebin.com/vgC7XX4k
[00:36] <Farfy1> jordan_u:  says pastebin unrecognized command
[00:36] <ljack> Just would take up disk space and take longer to start.
[00:36] <Farfy1> ohh nm
[00:37] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Now I don't mind a graphical login manager though.
[00:37] <ljack> Trekking82: Ask in ##linux please, you will get better support for that kind of thing. :)
[00:37] <Trekking82> Thanks :)
[00:37] <lauratika> how can i check if there is an issue with plugins on my browser... cant play videos from some pages.
[00:38] <Degorth> hello everyone, I'm trying to resurrect an old Eee PC 701 4g with linux, is there a version of ubuntu suited for 800x480 screens?
[00:38] <Jordan_U> _Tristan: OK. It looks like apt-get doesn't have any problem. So just use apt-get instead of aptitude from now on.
[00:38] <ljack> Trekking82: /j ##linux
[00:38] <_Tristan> Jordan_U: what about all if the :i386 stuff?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> Degorth: all are, you could use Lubuntu as the panel is quite thin
[00:39] <Degorth> ActionParsnip, what if some windows are cut off at the bottom, preventing access to OK or Cancel buttons?
[00:39] <Farfy1> jordan_u: http://pastebin.com/H0CQshFZ
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> Degorth: also, it is light so will use fewer resources :)
[00:39] <Jordan_U> _Tristan: That's expected. wine is a 32 bit only application, and depends on 32 bit libraries. The :i386 means that it's refferring to the 32 bit version of the package rather than the 64 bit one.
[00:39] <Farfy1> jordan_u: that is the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file
[00:39] <_Tristan> oh, I see
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> Degorth: hold ALT and you can drag from any part of the application window
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> Jordan_U: what is weird is that I have packages install on my 32bit OS which state :i386 very funny
[00:40] <Degorth> ActionParsnip, thank you!
[00:41] <kantlivelong> any bumblebee users here?
[00:41] <lauratika> anyone?
[00:42] <ljack> lauratika: What, you cannot watch videos?
[00:42] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: OK, the Ubuntu setup I'm suggesting would be unstoppable on a Core 2 Extreme and 4 gigs of RAM. XD
[00:42] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: You could open up every program installed on that setup, it wouldn't slow down a bit.
[00:43] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: And hell, Win7 works perfectly on that setup and it's a way bigger resource hog.
[00:43] <lauratika> on certain webpages
[00:43] <lauratika> in 2 browser
[00:43] <lauratika> opera and chromium
[00:43] <ljack> lauratika: Install flash.
[00:44] <lauratika> i have it already... wanna know if there are any plugins installed
[00:44] <lauratika> not
[00:44] <ljack> TeamRocket1233c: You have that system??
[00:44] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: My class at school upgraded from a AMD-based Optiplexes that ran XP to Intel-based Precisions running Win7.
[00:44] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: I wish I had a system like that though.
[00:45] <ljack> TeamRocket1233c: Same. I only have a dual core 1GHz CPU.
[00:45] <ljack> But 4GB RAM and a decent graphics card...
[00:45] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Might get lucky some day and find a Core 2 Extreme-based PC with 4 gigs of RAM at a local pawn shop for a decent price that has nothing installed on it, 'ya never know.
[00:46] <ljack> :)
[00:46] <Budd> Is there a non-Google-branded  version of Chromium for ubuntu?
[00:46] <kaushal> Hi
[00:46] <critt> Why Can't Ubuntu Leave you personal settings alone when we do upates?
[00:47] <kaushal> is there way to get summary of df -h command output?
[00:47] <zykotick9> Budd: "chromium" shouldn't be google "branded", it might be the defaults for most stuff (but that should be changable)
[00:47] <kaushal> similar to the one like free -mot
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> ljack: 4Gb and a dual core cpu is more than I have
[00:47] <zykotick9> critt: actually it does.  ~ (or /home/foo) aren't touched by updates
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> critt: it does
[00:47] <ljack> ActionParsnip: What do you have?
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> critt: the settings in $HOME are untouched
[00:47] <kaushal> ActionParsnip: hi
[00:48] <lauratika> Budd iron browser
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> ljack: single core sempron @ 1.6Ghz with 2Gb DDR2 and onboard Nvidia 6150LE
[00:48] <critt> I updated and Now my Cairo-dock wont load at startup.
[00:48] <TeamRocket1233c> ActionParsnip: My tech school classrooms has that hardware for its PC arsenal for the most part.
[00:48] <kaushal> is there way to get summary of df -h command output similar to the one like free -mot
[00:48] <Budd> zykotick9: I get many prompts to log in to Google, which I have no intention of doing, and the extensions page points me to the google "store".
[00:48] <ljack> ActionParsnip: Self build?
[00:48] <zykotick9> critt: but version changes/updates can break old config files (problem i have with people saving all of /home when they update)
[00:48] <TeamRocket1233c> ActionParsnip: The dual-core CPU and 4 gigs of RAM, I mean.
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> ljack: its an ASUS P1-AH2 pundit, I just slung in CPU, RAM and HDD
[00:49] <zykotick9> Budd: if you won't like google, don't support them by using chromium... or worse chrome.
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> critt: maybe the old config is not compatible with the old settings
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> critt: try launching it from terminal, it may give clues
[00:49] <TeamRocket1233c> ActionParsnip: Practically the whole classroom was upgraded to dual-core Precisions with 4-gigs of RAM that run Win7. And we use Chrome instead of IE for the standard browser now.
[00:49] <critt> zykotick9 It still shows my cairo-dock in the startup configs
[00:49] <devvie> Jordan_U: Thanks! ddrescue seems to at least be able to copy the hard-drive! It should be a bit easier from now on. ^^
[00:49] <girffe> Hi, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04, and just rebooted, and the window manager doesn't seem to be working. Instead of bringing me to a login screen, it brings me to tty1. When I press alt+Ctrl+F7, it says starting LightDM display manager, but doesn't have any sort of GUI. typing 'sudo restart lightdm' in tty6 says restart can't find the process, and sudo start lightdm just has the same problem (tty7 says starting LightDM, but no GUI). Anyo
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> TeamRocket1233c: yeah I need a new system soon, looking at a fit pc or similar :)
[00:50] <TeamRocket1233c> ActionParsnip: Got dual monitors in addition. VERY useful for listening to Labsim videos while trying to find info on Linux certs or whatever.
[00:50] <critt> I can launch from term.. but closes after I close term
[00:50] <zykotick9> critt: sorry i don't have any relevant info for your issue.  but updates don't touch home folder stuff...
[00:50] <ljack> TeamRocket1233c: Most our computers use Win XP with like 512MB RAM and we use IE.
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> TeamRocket1233c: haha 1 screen for 4 systems here :)
[00:50] <zykotick9> critt: alt+f2 then start cairo
[00:51] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: We WERE using AMD-based Optiplexes that ran XP and I THINK had the same amount of RAM that the system I'm currently using has.
[00:51] <critt> zykotick9 I see.. I can start it from unity dock but thats not my issue.
[00:51] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: And IE8 for the browser.
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> critt: what is the issue then?
[00:51] <girffe> It says [OK] after starting LightDM, then says checking battery state, it doesn't have an OK after battery. I'm running this on a desktop
[00:51] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Would rather use Firefox instead of Chrome, but at least Chrome's a step up from IE.
[00:51] <ljack> Windows XP was good, while it was alive.
[00:52] <ljack> And yes I also prefer Firefox to Chromium.
[00:52] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: At least Chrome's better than IE.
[00:52] <critt> ActionParsnip It stopped launching at startup after I did a system update
[00:52] <hico> hallo ubuntu 2012 was good
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> critt: try removing the startup item and readd it
[00:52] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Not the biggest fan of Chrome, but hate IE.
[00:53] <ljack> Same with me.
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> critt: you may need to make a small script to run the dock if compiz is not loaded fast enough
[00:53] <critt> ActionParsnip can try that.
[00:53] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: Opera's kinda meh.
[00:54] <critt> Script beyond my pay grade lol
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> critt: I can bash you one out, what is the command to run cairo?
[00:54] <TeamRocket1233c> ljack: I assume Chromium's roughly the same as Chrome, and the same with Iceweasel when compared to Firefox, hadn't used Dillo yet.
[00:54] <lauratika> opera is good but lately is bahaving like an ass...
[00:54] <critt> On Sec
[00:54] <ljack> Opera is a bit... well unstable.
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> opera is great, as is chrome
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> opera mini on android is sweeeeeet
[00:55] <wilee-nilee> ActionParsnip, cario will start with cairo-dock
[00:56] <TeamRocket1233c> I'm currently using FF11, which isn't the most recent FF out there, but hella better than FF3, which originally came with the Vista install this system came with.
[00:57] <zykotick9> TeamRocket1233c: actually chrome is based off of chromium source code (chromium is the development version, it gets the features first).  but because google owns the code, it can be dual-licensed opensource and propritary by the owner - google.
[00:57] <TeamRocket1233c> zykotick9: And Iceweasel is...
[00:57] <critt> ActionParsnip     Name: GLX-Dock (Cairo-Dock with OpenGL)    Command : cairo-dock    Comment : Cairo-Dock with OpenGL (hardware acceleration)
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> critt: http://pastebin.com/pydCQbqi
[00:58] <critt> sorry
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> critt: ah, then modify the command to:  cairo-dock
[00:58] <zykotick9> TeamRocket1233c: mozilla doesn't allow debian to use the art/name (with understandable reasons actually - but i still side with debian)
[00:58] <TeamRocket1233c> zykotick9: So it's basically re-branded Firefox.
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> critt: obviously delete the current startup item
[00:59] <zykotick9> TeamRocket1233c: yes - iceweasel is re-branded firefox.  but chrome is closed-source version based on open source code :( chromium
[00:59] <critt> ActionParsnip the command is cairo-dock already
[00:59] <TeamRocket1233c> zykotick9: And if Mozilla don't allow Debian to use the Firefox art/name, and Ubuntu's Debian-based, shouldn't Ubuntu at least have Iceweasel in the repos along with the honest-to-god Firefox?
[01:00] <zykotick9> TeamRocket1233c: if they wanted they could.  they wouldn't want to - "free software" has no place in ubuntu/canonical's priorities (it used too...)
[01:00] <whoobrien> Hey, random question on xmodmap: can I rebind a key "foo" so that it's basic press is the "ctrl+bar" press of some other key "bar"?  For instance, I want to rebind the Fwd/Back keys to be ctrl+pgup and ctrl+pgdn (tab jumps in webpage).
[01:01] <TeamRocket1233c> zykotick9: Meh, whatevers anyways.
[01:07] <critt> ActionParsnip created the script gonna go give it a try.. Thanks
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> critt: np, its not a hard script at all, as you can see
[01:07] <ActionParsnip> critt: its nothing you don't know how to do
[01:07] <critt> Nah but still above my grade LOL. Thanks a bunck se ya in a bit
[01:08] <marcus_> ?
[01:11] <webdeveloper1010> hola
[01:11] <webdeveloper1010> ¿alguien que hable español?
[01:11] <bazhang> !es
[01:12] <TeamRocket1233c> zykotick9: Well, whatever, you want a lightweight browser, Dillo's it.
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> TeamRocket1233c: arora is light too
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> TeamRocket1233c: midori is light too
[01:13] <ActionParsnip> TeamRocket1233c: and QupZilla
[01:13] <rypervenche> HA
[01:13] <kantlivelong> anyone here get ginn working?
[01:13] <rypervenche> Was just about to mention that one ActionParsnip.
[01:14] <TeamRocket1233c> ActionParsnip: I think Dillo might be the lightest.
[01:14] <rypervenche> Qupzilla is pretty cool. Very fast.
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> Kazehakase used to be around but i think its dead
[01:15] <TeamRocket1233c> And you can run most standard websites on Dillo too, right?
[01:16] <amr_> how to install latest gnome (3+) on ubuntu 12.-4?
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> amr_: its default installed
[01:17] <amr_> what !!! then how to access it?
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> amr_: you are using it when you run apps like nautilus and so forth
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> amr_: unity is a shell for Gnome
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> amr_: are you wanting a Gnome2 like desktop by any remote chance?
[01:18] <amr_> then I think I mean some other shell
[01:18] <halem> hey
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> amr_: gnome-shell is another shell, as is gnome-panel
[01:18] <lauratika> does qupzilla works with out kde?
[01:18] <TeamRocket1233c> amr_: How 'bout Cinnamon or MATE?
[01:18] <amr_> no I will search for a screan shot for what I mean and will post the link just a min
[01:18] <ActionParsnip> amr_: cool
[01:18] <TeamRocket1233c> amr_: Both DE's are available for Ubuntu.
[01:19] <blitz__> Whenever I boot into Ubuntu, it brings up the loading screen (with the dots), but instead of giving me a login screen, it sends me to tty1. When I switch to tty7, it has no GUI, and the second last message is "Starting LightDM Display Manager", followed by [OK]. Any idea how I can fix it?
[01:19] <hoyang> how to switch gnome3 to gnome2? or gnome2 look-and-feel.
[01:19] <klync> blitz__: do `grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log`
[01:19] <hoyang> ubuntu 12.04lts
[01:19] <Farffy> anyone here want to take a crack at helping with video driver issues?
[01:19] <danielboston26> blitz__: do you have xwindows installed?
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> hoyang: install gnome-panel, log off then log into the new session
[01:19] <klync> blitz__: you will see *at least* one line of output, explaining why I recommend doing that
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> hoyang: gnome2 is dead
[01:20] <hoyang> is dead?
[01:20] <zykotick9> TeamRocket1233c: want and uber-light browser (based on webkit), try uzbl ;)
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> hoyang: no longer developed by the gnome team
[01:21] <blitz__> klync: It says failed to initialize NVIDIA kernel module, and later says "screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration"
[01:21] <amr_> here is what I mean http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rOl-9x3hF-k/TZ0n24hTSZI/AAAAAAAAAHE/2aRsr8_u7fY/s800/gnome-3-desktop.jpg
[01:21] <TeamRocket1233c> ActionParsnip: Hey, you want GNOME 2, get MATE.
[01:21] <amr_> gnome 3
[01:21] <hoyang> mate?
[01:21] <zykotick9> !notunity | hoyang
[01:21] <blitz__> klync: I tried deleting (and backing up) xorg.config earlier, but it didn't fix it
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> TeamRocket1233c: yeah, if you want to reduce support
[01:21] <TeamRocket1233c> ActionParsnip: It's basically re-branded GNOME 2.
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> amr_: thats gnome shell
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> TeamRocket1233c: yes but its not supported here
[01:22] <blitz__> danielboston26: somewhat new to linux, what do you mean? I haven't installed anything on top of/in place of the default Unity
[01:22] <zykotick9> hoyang: that gnome-panel is the gnome2 like environment
[01:22] <bazhang> TeamRocket1233c, unsupported PPA.
[01:22] <amr_> so how to install it on my ubuntu 12
[01:22] <Farffy> anyone help with video issues?
[01:22] <hoyang> aha! classic.
[01:22] <bazhang> Farffy, ask a real question
[01:22] <klync> blitz__: if you have nvidia's drivers (not the stock "nouveau" driver), and upgraded your kernel, you'll need to re-run the nvidia-installer as root to get the modules recompiled; then reboot and all should be well
[01:22] <TeamRocket1233c> ActionParsnip: It's available on Ubuntu, along with Cinnamon.
[01:22] <danielboston26> blitz__: xwindows is the gui
[01:22] <hoyang> emulator?
[01:22] <bazhang> TeamRocket1233c, and it's NOT supported as was said
[01:22] <ActionParsnip> !find cinnamo
[01:22] <danielboston26> blitz__:  as long as you did not install ubuntu server xwindows should be installed by default
[01:23] <TeamRocket1233c> !find cinnamon
[01:23] <TeamRocket1233c> !find cinnamon-desktop
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> TeamRocket1233c: its not in the official repos so it's not supported here
[01:23] <zykotick9> the icons, art is support though :p
[01:23] <TeamRocket1233c> ActionParsnip: OK.
[01:24] <amr_> how to install gnome shell 3 on ubuntu 12
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> amr_: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[01:24] <danielboston26> amr sudo apt-get install gnome 3
[01:24] <Farffy> ok. installed ubuntu, changed video driver to recommended driver using additional hardware.  i can log into my account, left side of screen is 'off screen' and the right side is shown.  black fills rest of space.  i can sometimes get to actual desktop doing sudo lightdm restart, but cant lately.  when switching between term and desktop, they overlap and i see what i type on both.
[01:24] <zykotick9> amr_: look at the !notunity factoids above
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> amr_: then log off and log in to the new session
[01:24] <bazhang> danielboston26, thats not correct
[01:24] <TeamRocket1233c> !find fluxbox
[01:24] <Eddy_> Hello all! :)
[01:24] <blitz__> klync: I didn't upgrade my kernel myself, unless it was in one of the automatic updates Ubuntu does, but before the error, when I booted it would say something about monitor configuration being wrong, and my left monitor was configured to be on the right, I'd have to fix it every time I rebooted. Can't think of anything I did since then that should have broken anything
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> amr_: user desires gnome shell
[01:24] <danielboston26> arm or just search ubuntu software center for gnome
[01:24] <bazhang> TeamRocket1233c, /msg ubottu
[01:24] <klync> danielboston26: without an X server lightdm wouldn't install, and blitz__ wouldn't get the "starting lightdm..." msg. there's an error in the xorg.0.log that shows it's a problem w the driver
[01:25] <blitz__> danielboston26: Yeah, I did a standard install, and it's been working fine until today
[01:25] <danielboston26> ah i missed that aprt
[01:25] <blitz__> I also tried reinstalling lightdm via apt-get, but it didn't change anything
[01:25] <klync> blitz__: well, i don't know how your system's setup, but yes, kernel updates are pushed with all other updates; third-party drivers are not.... can you pastebin the entire output of that command?
[01:25] <TeamRocket1233c> How would Mint + LXDE work out?
[01:26] <Eddy_> Quick question. Does anyone know what sort of functionality is lost when connecting to an Exchange 2010 server via Ubuntu (using Thunderbird or any other mail software)? Does the calendar still work? including meeting invites etc..
[01:26] <bazhang> !ot | TeamRocket1233c
[01:26] <danielboston26> blitz__:  in that case it sounds like a driver issue
[01:26] <blitz__> pastebin would be difficult given that I'm stuck in CLI mode, one sec, though, the output isn't long
[01:26] <danielboston26> Eddy_: i wasn't aware you do connect to exchange on linux
[01:26] <zykotick9> !pastebinit
[01:27] <Eddy_> danielboston26, a google search shows me that you can using Thunderbird. But wasnt sure if you still get all the functionality offered by Exchange 2010
[01:27] <klync> Eddy_: if you're not using MAPI, you're using IMAP, so yes, you lose calendars, address book, etc
[01:27] <blitz__> "Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module. Please see the system's kernel log for additional error messages and consult the NVIDIA README for details. ***Aborting***"
[01:27] <danielboston26> Eddy_: im not sure ive never done it
[01:27] <blitz__> then on a new line:
[01:27] <Eddy_> yup, im using MAPI. So no Linux MAPI support?
[01:27] <klync> Eddy_: there's a mapi plugin for tbird and for evolution, but I've never gotten either to work
[01:27] <lauratika> how can i asign plugin path to chrome?
[01:27] <blitz__> "Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration."
[01:27] <zykotick9> Eddy_: Exchange is not a mail server/client - it's so much more (or less?)
[01:27] <Eddy_> klync, thanks mate. I will look in to those plugins
[01:27] <klync> Eddy_: i have no idea if ubuntu ships them or if you'd need to compile from source
[01:27] <danielboston26> Eddy_: why not use google sync?
[01:28] <danielboston26> Eddy_: or is this for work?
[01:28] <ActionParsnip> Eddy_: or theemail web interface on exchane
[01:28] <blitz__> Should I just try updating nvidia drivers and see if it fixes the issue?
[01:28] <zjhui1> hi , when i install some package on ubuntu 11.10 , it comes error with mesaage like : /usr/include/stdint.h:27:24: error: bits/wchar.h: No such file or directory  .  etc.
[01:28] <danielboston26> blitz__: thats what i would do
[01:28] <Eddy_> danielboston26, this is for the company I work for. So using anything else isnt possible
[01:28] <bazhang> zjhui1, install how
[01:28] <zjhui1> should i lose some package on the system >
[01:28] <danielboston26> Eddy_: ya
[01:29] <kbuel> danielboston26, check out davmail
[01:29] <zjhui1> bazhang: what install how mean ?
[01:29] <danielboston26> Eddy_: in that case i would use windows in a vm on linux
[01:29] <blitz__> danielboston26: any idea how to do so from CLI?
[01:29] <klync> Eddy_: windows in a vm (eg virtualbox) might be the best solution, but feel free to look for those plugins first
[01:29] <amr_> hello ,I installed the gnome shell but it not like this >>http://www.h-online.com/open/slideshow/bilderstrecke_1616673.html?back=1614860;back_page=1;image=2
[01:29] <bazhang> zjhui1, which package  and what installation method = install how
[01:29] <danielboston26> blitz__: not sure of the exact syntax but you can use apt-get
[01:29] <Eddy_> danielboston26, klync. That may be the best way to go. Thanks guys
[01:29] <blitz__> danielboston26: initially I'd just gone to their site for it, is it in the Ubuntu repos or would I have to install lynx or something?
[01:29] <kbuel>  danielboston26, i use thunderbird plus davmail to obtain all the features of our corporate exchange server
[01:30] <klync> O_o
[01:30] <danielboston26> blitz__: i believe it is in the ubuntu repo
[01:30] <Farffy> i installed ubuntu, changed video driver to recommended driver using additional hardware.  i can log into my account, left side of screen is 'off screen' and the right side is shown.  black fills rest of space.  i can sometimes get to actual desktop doing sudo lightdm restart, but cant lately.  when switching between term and desktop, they overlap and i see what i type on both.  how can i fix the video drivers to correctly display des
[01:30] <danielboston26> blitz__: you need need to install the propreitary repo
[01:30] <zjhui1> bazhang: i tried to install gentoo prefix on ubuntu 11.10 , and when i use the sime portage to install the gcc , than it comes error
[01:31] <danielboston26> blitz__: as nvidia does not open source their drivers
[01:31] <zykotick9> zjhui1: lol
[01:31] <bazhang> zjhui1, you are trying to use portage with Ubuntu?
[01:31] <blitz__> danialboston26: If by that you mean multiverse, then yeah I already have it enabled
[01:31] <usuario> hi, i need help to install  scaner on my RICOH aficio mp c2500 my GNU-linux  do , not detec :-(
[01:31] <amr_> hello ,I installed the gnome shell but it not like this >>http://www.h-online.com/open/slideshow/bilderstrecke_1616673.html?back=1614860;back_page=1;image=2
[01:31] <danielboston26> kbuel wasn't aware of that but i have no need for exchange
[01:31] <zjhui1> bazhang: hmm...yes.
[01:31] <danielboston26> amr what do you mean?
[01:32] <bazhang> zjhui1, thats not going to work
[01:32] <kbuel> danielboston26, sorry I must have come into the conversation late
[01:32] <danielboston26> amr it doesn't look like the screen shot
[01:32] <bazhang> usuario, try simplescan
[01:32] <klync> amr_: we saw your msg the first time; if you're not getting a response, try rephrasing or giving us more info
[01:32] <danielboston26> kbuel yes someone else was asking about exchange on linux i was just saying i wasn't aware of a way to do it
[01:32] <amr_> check the link ,this is what i want my desk top to look like, so I install the gnome shell but when I log to it I didn't found it like this
[01:32] <usuario> bazhang ,don work  xsane
[01:32] <blitz__> danielboston26: klync: the repo seems to be nvidia-current, but when I type 'sudo apt-get install nvidia-current', it says it's already on the latest version
[01:32] <bazhang> amr_, yes, no need to repeat
[01:32] <amr_> klync: okay thank you
[01:33] <amr_> bazhang: sorry again
[01:33] <klync> blitz__: try `sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-current`
[01:33] <bazhang> usuario, what about simplescan
[01:33] <Erin> Does writing 0's to a computer HD make it safe to sell ?
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> amr_: set the wallpaper to the gnome default and you will
[01:33] <danielboston26> erin how many times?
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> Erin: yes
[01:33] <usuario> bazhang ; simple scan,  dont  detect :-(
[01:33] <Erin> I am on the second pass now using DD to write them.
[01:33] <amr_> actionParsnip: no it's not about the wallpaper man
[01:33] <Farffy> i need help fixing a video driver.  i used recommended driver from Additional drivers.  i cannot correctly display the desktop (one half 'off screen') and cannot switch between terminal and desktop without the terminal 'leaking' to the desktop can anyone help
[01:33] <Erin> I
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> amr_: well, i cant see your screen...
[01:34] <danielboston26> Erin i would do a 7 pass
[01:34] <zjhui1> bazhang: gentoo has a project called gentoo-prefix, that is tried to let portage work on other linux distribute
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> amr_: so you'll have to fill me in
[01:34] <danielboston26> Erin anything above 7 is overkill
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> danielboston26: its not needed nowadays
[01:34] <bazhang> zjhui1, was that brought over to ubuntu? got a link?
[01:34] <KAsp3rd> Evening everyone.
[01:34] <kbuel> Erin, check out the shred application
[01:34] <ActionParsnip> Erin: a single pass is fine
[01:34] <klync> gentoo is *so* hardcore. they're like the samuel l. jackson of distros
[01:34] <danielboston26> what isn't ActionParsnip
[01:34] <amr_> ActionParsnip: just tell me how to make my desktop look like this, i just installed ubuntu 12.04
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> danielboston26: 7 sweeps of data change to delete data
[01:35] <zjhui1> bazhang:  http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/prefix/bootstrap-solaris.xml
[01:35] <blitz__> ok, ran that, going to try restarting
[01:35] <danielboston26> ActionParsnip: im paranoid :-P
[01:35] <KAsp3rd> Quick quest for y'all... Any idea on how to see what it eating up my free space on sdb? (running cli only)
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> amr_: the window theme will be the same, the wallpaper will need adding
[01:35] <zjhui1> bazhang: some one has successed to install that on ubuntu 11.10
[01:35] <Farffy> are there other channels i can go to, to get help w/ my issue?
[01:35] <danielboston26> ActionParsnip: you know how MI5 gets rid of data?
[01:35] <Erin> ActionParsnip, well i've done two already I just want to make sure no one gets my credit card number etc.
[01:35] <bazhang> zjhui1, link please
[01:35] <klync> KAsp3rd: recursively do `du -h`
[01:35] <ActionParsnip> danielboston26: it achieves nothing extra the more sweeps you do
[01:35] <klync> KAsp3rd: or, do `find ` with a size arg as a predicate
[01:36] <zjhui1> bazhang: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/prefix/bootstrap-solaris.xml that is
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> Erin: there is no data on the drive
[01:36] <Erin> ActionParsnip, ok cool. thanks
[01:36] <KAsp3rd> klync: over 2tb will take forever :( lol
[01:36] <danielboston26> ActionParsnip: they do a 35 pass write on a drive then shred the drive into tiny little pieces then they take the pieces and lock them in a vault
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> amr_: if you have a default install, that is all that needs changing
[01:36] <danielboston26> now thats paranoia
[01:36] <usuario> somody now to emulate drivers on gnu-linux ?
[01:37] <klync> ActionParsnip: if you write zeros, then random, then zeros, that helps. certain forensic tools can reconstruct partial data based on residual magetization of the platters
[01:37] <blitz__> klync: danielboston26: still the same problem, unfortunately
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> klync: not with newer drives, its not needed
[01:37] <Erin> danielboston26, alot easier to just drop thermite on the drive or put it in a blast furnace..... LOL
[01:37] <danielboston26> usuario: can you use complete sentences to ask a question
[01:37] <bazhang> lets get back on topic of ubuntu support please
[01:37] <Erin> How do I write random data to the drive using DD ?
[01:37] <Erin> I'd like to do one pass of that then.
[01:38] <Farffy> what other channels are available on this irc server that i can find support for my issues?
[01:38] <danielboston26> usuario: you ask did not use correct english
[01:38] <bazhang> !alis | Farffy have a search
[01:38] <klync> KAsp3rd: well, you can try more targeted searching than just doing `du` on every folder; like, look in /var, look in /home (esp for hidden dotfiles / folders)
[01:38] <danielboston26> farffy whats your issue?
[01:38] <usuario> i need intall scaner, helpe
[01:39] <Farffy> danielboston26: for the 5th time..........
[01:39] <Farffy> danielboston26: i installed ubuntu, changed video driver to recommended driver using additional hardware.  i can log into my account, left side of screen is 'off screen' and the right side is shown.  black fills rest of space.  i can sometimes get to actual desktop doing sudo lightdm restart, but cant lately.  when switching between term and desktop, they overlap and i see what i type on both.  how can i fix the video drivers to corre
[01:39] <klync> ActionParsnip: sure, i may not be up to date. if i'm really concerned about the data being recovered forensically, i'm not going to wipe it and sell it. more like erin's recommendation
[01:39] <danielboston26> usuario: do you not speak english? you are not asking anything that i can make sense of
[01:39] <zykotick9> Farffy: what video card?  from terminal "lspci | grep -i vga"
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> klync: its simply not needed with newer drives
[01:39] <bazhang> danielboston26, thats enough
[01:39] <Erin> Yea I am not worried about the FBI or something. I am just trading some guy this laptop for an SSD cause I got a new laptop and want an SSD :-)
[01:40] <danielboston26> farffy: sounds like a driver issue
[01:40] <klync> Erin: woot! :D
[01:40] <Farffy> yes...i know its a driver issue, im trying to get help with fixing it
[01:40] <HACKhalo2> is it possible to wake a computer up from sleep mode using an ssh command?
[01:40] <Xanather> hello
[01:40] <usuario> i need help, to install scaner on LAN, how todo that ?
[01:40] <Blue1> HACKhalo2: yes wake on lan
[01:40] <klync> HACKhalo2: no, but you can use wake-on-lan
[01:41] <Farffy> zykotic9: i am not on that machine, moving back and forth between this and that one, its an nvidia 7950 gt, i have a pastebin of /var/log/Xorg.log if you need that as osmeone else requested it earlier
[01:41] <Erin> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda bs=1M      is that safe to do to write random data to an HD?
[01:41] <bazhang> usuario, is it listed as being supported?
[01:41] <zykotick9> HACKhalo2: a computer can't be running an ssh server while it's "asleep"
[01:41] <bazhang> !hcl | usuario
[01:41] <klync> Erin: you may lose entropy, but urandom won't lock up your system at least
[01:41] <HACKhalo2> klync Blue1, I'm guessing that's a BIOS thing, not a Ubuntu thing
[01:42] <Erin> klync, "entropy" ? I am booted off a live-usb so writing to that drive should be no issue just finished second pass of 0's
[01:42] <Blue1> HACKhalo2: you install wakeonlan
[01:42] <Blue1> HACKhalo2: then ssh to the mac address
[01:42] <Blue1> HACKhalo2: well wakeonlan to the mac address
[01:42] <HACKhalo2> ah
[01:44] <jagginess> Blue1, mac as in macid address?
[01:44] <jagginess> ?
[01:44] <Farffy> danielboston26: any suggestion?
[01:44] <Erin> WOW writing random data is alot slower than writing 0's, 60 MB/S  for 0's vs 10 MB/S for random data :-)
[01:44] <jagginess> you ssh to the ip address, not the mac address :/
[01:44] <Blue1> HACKhalo2: so sudo apt-get  install wakeonlan   --- then wakeonlan <mac_address_goes_here>
[01:44] <danielboston26> farffy none that i can think of
[01:44] <usuario> bazhang ;  no exit my  scaner  "RICOH aficio mp c2500"   on  "https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScannersRicoh"
[01:44] <HACKhalo2> ok
[01:44] <zjhui1> bazhang: something like these ? https://github.com/npinto/gentoo-prefix-bootstrap
[01:44] <usuario> what can i do ??
[01:45] <usuario> :'(
[01:45] <bazhang> usuario, it may not be supported then. you may wish to check canon for drivers
[01:45] <jagginess> usuario, i is spelled in caps
[01:45] <HACKhalo2> I can't do the apt-get install on this laptop (running archlinux), but I'll do it on my desktop (running Ubuntu
[01:45] <jagginess> ^
[01:45] <ebolla> How do you use modprobe to find the driver being used for a device?  (guess I need to know what ubuntu is calling it as well)
[01:46] <klync> ok, so my issue is grub: i have several kernels installed, and i do `grep -i menuentry` /boot/grub/grub.cfg and pick the one I want (counting from zero), then do `update-grub` after setting that num in /etc/default/grub, then check that the kernel i want is still in that position, but when i reboot, I _cannot_ land on that kernel. I *can* see that it's still there in /boot/ though. anything i'm missing?
[01:46] <Blue1> HACKhalo2: please note that I am running ubuntu 10.04 and debian squeeze, so I don't know if apt-get still works in the current release.
[01:46] <HACKhalo2> i use pacman
[01:46] <HACKhalo2> so
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> HACKhalo2: so your issue is in arch?
[01:46] <usuario> What has to do ricoh with canon?
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> ebolla: sudo lshw | less     will show you all hardware, plu the module driving it
[01:46] <HACKhalo2> well, it's still Ubuntu related (I need my arch laptop to wake up my Ubuntu desktop before a git commit)
[01:47] <jagginess> Blue1, the tools are still the same
[01:47] <ebolla> ActionParsnip:  Thank you.
[01:47] <bazhang> usuario, ok, check ricoh for drivers, my mistake
[01:47] <ActionParsnip> HACKhalo2: i see, well do you have WOL setup in arch?
[01:47] <Blue1> jagginess: thanks - -
[01:47] <HACKhalo2> ActionParsnip working on that now
[01:47] <Blue1> HACKhalo2: iirc you have to enable wake on lan in the bios as well
[01:48] <usuario> on oficial page of RICOH , dont do a drver for GNU-linux :-(     ,    only for window$ and MAC
[01:48] <ActionParsnip> HACKhalo2: if you install wakeonlan package, you can send magicpackets to systems
[01:49] <Darkenvy> who knows much about photorec?
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> !info photorec
[01:49] <Darkenvy> Im trying to recover a file and it wants me to wait 52 hours after I already just waited 2 hours
[01:50] <Darkenvy> Actionparsnip, dont do the bot on me, im asking for personal help from a human -_-
[01:50] <Darkenvy> I have researched as much as I can find out on photorec
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: it was my own education, thanks
[01:50] <Darkenvy> aaah, your right its not directed to me lol
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: yep
[01:51] <Darkenvy> I dont like being botted and it happens a lot
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: many users ask the same thing a lot
[01:51] <MindALot> Can I safely recreate a boot sector if I delete the partition with the current boot sector in it ?
[01:51] <Darkenvy> photorec help recovers files that are in deleted partitions or deleted files
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> MindALot: sure, you can boot to liveCD and instate grub using a simple chroot
[01:51] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man1/photorec.1.html   <--- Darkenvy have a read
[01:51] <ebolla> ActionParsnip:  Would you happen to have any experience with HPT raid controllers under Ubuntu?
[01:51] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: why not use your backups?
[01:52] <MindALot> ActionParsnip: will that find a currently installed linux partition (that wasn't deleted) ?
[01:52] <Darkenvy> I thought I backuped an important virtual machine, but it was just the savestate -_-
[01:52] <ubuntu_> is there any openldap gui tools that allow you to create LDAP entries  ca dn ,...etc records thru gui out there
[01:52] <Darkenvy> yes thats what im doing mindAlot
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> Darkenvy: oooh painful
[01:53] <jagginess> MindALot, juse use gparted live cd, makes it safe
[01:53] <Darkenvy> I reinstalled ubuntu on the same partition over and the file is in the same location
[01:53] <MindALot> Darkenvy: cool
[01:53] <jagginess> MindALot, you trying to use gpt instead of dosmbr?
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> MindALot: if you can mount the partition, you can make it bootable etc
[01:53] <MindALot> I haven't removed anything yet
[01:53] <MindALot> I have ubuntu installed twice
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> MindALot: if the drive is big etc then it will take a long time
[01:53] <MindALot> but the first one is 32 bit, and has the boot record
[01:53] <MindALot> the second is the one I want to keep
[01:53] <ActionParsnip> ebolla: sorry, no
[01:53] <MindALot> I want to remove the first, and still use the second
[01:54] <jagginess> MindALot, ya, you'll need to boot off the one you want to keep and do ->grub-install /dev/<your hd>
[01:54] <MindALot> it's a SSD, about 40 gig for each partition
[01:54] <ebolla> ActionParsnip:  No biggy.  not a lot of raid users in here that use ubuntu from what I've seen ;)
[01:54] <MindALot> oh, I can install grub to my current partition...
[01:55] <MindALot> what happens if I do that without deleting the other one, how does the BIOS choose which 'grub' to load ?
[01:55] <jagginess> MindALot, why not the mbr?
[01:55] <alexi5> hello
[01:55] <usuario> heloow
[01:55] <usuario> ask
[01:55] <jagginess> MindALot, are they both ext4 partitions with just ubuntu on them?
[01:55] <MindALot> I think so, hold on
[01:55] <ahhughes> is there a command line way to switch between windows... or bring one window to top, or even switch desktop's?
[01:56] <alexi5> which is the best laptop that has the best linux (ubuntu support)  HP dv6t , lenovo T520 or a 2011 mac book pro ?
[01:56] <MindALot> booth are ext4
[01:56] <MindALot> one has the boot flag
[01:56] <MindALot> and the other I'm currently running (is mount point /)
[01:56] <jagginess> ahhughes, you have to logout and then log back in for a different desktop
[01:57] <jagginess> ahhughes, or you can use the "switch user" if you want to come back from your current desktop
[01:57] <jagginess> MindALot, bootflags arent used by linux
[01:57] <klync> alexi5: there was a site, "linuxlaptop.org" or something like that, that kept a db of different hardware reports
[01:57] <MindALot> how do I find where grub was run from at boot time ?
[01:57] <alexi5> thanks
[01:58] <jagginess> MindALot, so do whatever you want with the ubuntu you want to wipeout (of course be booted in the ubuntu you want before anything)--- once that ubuntu is gone, do grub-install /dev/<drive> on the current on that's already booted
[01:58] <klync> alexi5: sorry, i checked ... what i typed is crap link farming...
[01:58] <klync> alexi5: http://www.linux-laptop.net/
[01:58] <ahhughes> jagginess: I think I am not explaining myself... I think I mean workspaces... I have 1 desktop with 4x workspaces yes? assuming yes... then I want to switch workspaces or alternatively switch focus between two windows.
[01:58] <usuario> dont  work    ---->             linuxlaptop.org
[01:59] <alexi5> thanks Klync
[01:59] <MindALot> alright, thanks !!
[01:59] <klync> usuario: sorry ^^
[01:59] <jagginess> ahhughes, ya.. there's the systemsettings/keyboard, then look on the shortcuts tab :/
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> ahhughes:  theres keyboard shortcuts.. press/hold the super key to see them
[01:59] <jagginess> ahhughes, there's a good# shortcuts for workspaces..
[01:59] <Dr_Willis> ahhughes:  windows-# to stitch btween the top 5 or so apps on the left side panel
[01:59] <jagginess> ahhughes, i would know little of unity, but i'm suspecting it's the same place
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> Press-hold-super = shows keyboard shortut... needs to be In letters on the default wallpaper. :)
[02:00] <ahhughes> cool, trying to work out a way that I can run a VM on "Workspace #2" and swtich between them.
[02:00] <maladore> Can anyone help with a partitioning error?
[02:00] <Dr_Willis> Noticeing a lot of 'tutorial' type helper features on the New android phone of the wifes...  Unity should borrow some of the ideas. ;)
[02:01] <MindALot> jagginess: grub-install is failing
[02:01]  * klync 's jaw drops on trying Dr_Willis' advice "press/hold the super key". that should be the #1 response to all the unity haters
[02:01] <MindALot> "attempting to install grub to a partitionless disk or to a partition"
[02:01] <jagginess> MindALot, try it as root or with sudo (also it may be wise to do an ->update-grub2<enter> which  updates grub.cfg)
[02:01] <Dr_Willis> klync:  yep. :) i just happened to notice it one day.. i rembered it being mentioned as a feature i never really tried.
[02:01] <MindALot> oh, just had to use the root drive
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> made me actually put away my old old keyboards with no super keys..
[02:02] <three18ti> !ask
[02:02] <jagginess> MindALot, what drive is it? /dev/sda?
[02:02] <WeThePeople> is it possible to download a vimeo video through the terminal
[02:02] <Dr_Willis> Night all
[02:02] <MindALot> it was /dev/sdb3 - I removed the 3
[02:02] <MindALot> and it worked
[02:02] <three18ti> !patience
[02:03] <jagginess> MindALot, /dev/sdb3 isnt the drive, it's a partition.. /dev/sdb is the sector 0 of the drive, this is where the mbr is
[02:03] <MindALot> let's see if it boots
[02:03] <MindALot> thanks !
[02:04] <maladore> can anyone help with a partioning error?
[02:04] <bazhang> maladore, whats the real question
[02:04] <jagginess> maladore, maybe your harddrive is physicaly "screwed"
[02:04] <maladore> trying to make a swap on the 1 gig left. and it only goes to extend and won't format
[02:04] <jagginess> maladore, .
[02:05] <jagginess> maladore, an extended partition cannot hold a format to it from any Oses
[02:05] <maladore> yes but it won't go logical
[02:05] <maladore> using the new gparted
[02:05] <jagginess> maladore, extended partition can only contain logical partitions
[02:05] <jagginess> maladore, what you mean?
[02:06] <klync> maladore: can you pastebin the current layout (eg sfdisk -l)?
[02:06] <jagginess> maladore, what's inside the ext partition?
[02:06] <MindALot> jagginess: that worked, or it didn't change anything.
[02:06] <maladore> Well trying to make a swap.. when i use gparted  yes.. i tried that but i wouldn't work
[02:06] <jagginess> MindALot, did you do "update-grub2<enter>" ?
[02:06] <MindALot> hrm.. I wonder if there is an easy way to clean up the boot selecltion
[02:06] <MindALot> update-grub2 ?
[02:06] <maladore> one logical is the only way to do it.. but it is unreadable and get crypt errors
[02:06] <jagginess> MindALot, then you can reboot :/
[02:06] <jagginess> MindALot, y. (i hinted it would help to update grub.cfg)
[02:07] <MindALot> ohh, cool
[02:07] <jagginess> MindALot, grub.cfg gets read when grub starts from the bios
[02:07] <MindALot> thanks !
[02:07] <klync> MindALot: i saw a gtk util for managing grub while searching the other day, but can't remember the name :/ it's in a 3rd party apt repo
[02:07] <MindALot> still have to remove some other installs
[02:08] <jagginess> maladore, what operation is failing, you should be able to tell
[02:08] <jagginess> (click on the detail arrows)
[02:09] <maladore> Well when i booted before after a fresh install and update it gave me crypt swap error. i tried using gparted to fix this error. and it won't go to swap anymore. don't tell me i have to reinstall to specify that partition again
[02:10] <jagginess> maladore, can you see my last text?
[02:10] <jagginess> lol.. I never mentioned about reinstalling anything, you must be on drugs or something
[02:10] <maladore> about the operation failing?
[02:10] <bazhang> maladore, this is an encrypted system?
[02:10] <jagginess> maladore, you said you're using gparted.
[02:11] <maladore> no. not at the moment will be later
[02:11] <maladore> yes.
[02:11] <jagginess> maladore, in gparted, you can see detail messages about operations..
[02:11] <jagginess> ok bye.
[02:11] <maladore> hold on i will run it again
[02:11] <jagginess> so you said you're using a tool, but you mean "future". You got my times messed up.
[02:11]  * jagginess takes a starktrek enterprise to full warptime throttle
[02:12]  * klync watches jagginess increase jiggyness
[02:12] <maladore> error informing the kernel about modifications to partition /dev/sda2 failed to add partion 2 device busy.
[02:12] <jagginess> maladore, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[02:13] <jagginess> ^
[02:13] <jagginess> maladore, unless you are actually already using gparted live cd, sometimes it hooks to the swap partition, you'll have to "unmount" it (you can unmount it with gparted, rt-click it)
[02:14] <ZeroNeutron> Hi by doing a apt-get update on ubuntu 12.04 keeps giving me warning failed to get canonical release error
[02:14] <maladore> probably because sda1 is boot..
[02:14] <jagginess> maladore, you can't partition something that is currently "mounted"-- meaning a current running OS. In the future this will be possible in linux, but doesnt look like anytime soon.
[02:14] <maladore> should I mount iso or burn and boot?
[02:15] <klync> maladore: yes
[02:15] <klync> err, the latter
[02:15] <maladore> alrighty that is what i thought but i am still kinda new to ubuntu.. this is alot more fun the windows ever was hahah
[02:15] <klync> heh
[02:15] <jagginess> maladore, are you using wubi by any chance?
[02:16] <maladore> no gave that up before I started i replaced windows.
[02:16] <jagginess> maladore, "/" doesnt say loopback does it? (fdisk -l<enter>)
[02:16]  * jagginess uses live gparted on usb
[02:17] <maladore> it doesn't report anything about the drives just gives prompt
[02:18] <ZeroNeutron> Hi by doing a apt-get update on ubuntu 12.04 keeps giving me warning failed to get canonical release error
[02:18] <maladore> I can use start up disk and create it on usb but the computer refuses to boot from usb. has it in bios but won't do it.
[02:18] <bazhang> ZeroNeutron, please pastebin the full error at paste.ubuntu.com
[02:18] <jagginess> maladore, you don't know how to burn in linux?
[02:19] <maladore> Yeah I know brasero and such.. i can do that.. but i was having trouble with usb mounting onthe last time i was checking out linux systems
[02:25] <sandprickle> I know how to configure SysVinit runlevels in, say CentOS, but how do I configure runlevels in Upstart?
[02:26] <sgronblo> Did netstat get some change to its command flags recently. None of the examples I find online seem to be working.
[02:27] <sgronblo> They all seem to contain p which gives me derp derp you need to specify an argument for p
[02:28] <jagginess> sgronblo, ss supersedes netstat
[02:28] <bazhang> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man8/netstat.8.html   sgronblo seems unchanged
[02:29] <jagginess> sandprickle, not sure but maybe you'll want to look at update-rc.d and see the output of it
[02:29] <sgronblo> Ok, I'll look into it some more. Thanks.
[02:29] <jagginess> sandprickle, i dont know if "update-rc.d" is supposed to be the norm, i'm betting it's going to be succeeded by something in ubuntu in the coming releases
[02:31] <klync> so there's a new one: firefox crashed, and now whenever i launch it it crashes on the recovery screen. clearly reading *something* corrupted in ~/
[02:32] <jagginess> klync, startup firefox in safemode, maybe its a plugin
[02:32] <klync> jagginess: crash happened when i was wheel-scrolling a text howto, but i'll try that
[02:32] <sandprickle> jagginess: thanks I'll check that out
[02:37] <TeamRocket1233c> I G2G for the night, I'll be back whenever, bye! -wave-
[02:37] <klync> jagginess: well, it was one of the several plugins i disabled. thanks. time to add back one by one...
[02:38] <heyuxiang> is it possbile to make debian looks like ubuntu but without ubuntu logo ?
[02:38] <klync> heyuxiang: that sounds more like a #debian question :P
[02:38] <heyuxiang> yep
[02:40] <maladore> Okay jagginess Wish Me luck
[02:40] <klync> heyuxiang: and ubuntu _works_ differently from debian (even though that's its base), so really aren't you asking "how do I make my debian desktop kick-butt?"
[02:44] <estudiante> hola
[02:44] <bazhang> !es | estudiante
[02:45] <estudiante> hi
[02:45] <estudiante> have
[02:46] <bazhang> estudiante, ubuntu support question?
[02:48] <maladore> Jagginess: i still run into cryptswap error on boot asking to either manual add or skip
[02:50] <ryan__> MSG
[03:12] <davicho> Hola a todos
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> adv
[03:12] <CanAnon__> hellooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I need some hellllppppp
[03:12] <darkbishop> shoot.
[03:12] <CanAnon__> its re: ubuntu server+samba
[03:13] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|CanAnon__
[03:13] <CanAnon__> im trying to setup a file server, but basically the issue is, the samba share wont work, or even let me connect to it, unless I have an SSH connection open :\
[03:14] <CanAnon__> when I have am connected to it via SSH it works fine
[03:14] <MindALot> FYI - windows 8 is mean to Ubuntu, and boot-repair doesn't like to be run from a 32 bit ubuntu from USB when fixing a drive with a 64 bit ubuntu.
[03:14] <CanAnon__> buuut thats rather inconvenient
[03:16] <linelevel> Hi guys. I successfully got my iPod into Disk Mode, but when I plug it into my USB port, it gets mounted in Read-Only mode. How do I fix this?
[03:17] <Nautilus> if I want to run a check on an ext3 filesystem, the OS partition, do I do that with: "shutdown -F now" then reboot?  Or is there a better way?
[03:20] <CanAnon__> anyone :\
[03:21] <Jordan_U> !fsck | CanAnon__
[03:21] <CanAnon__> i dont think thats gonna fix my samba share :P
[03:22] <CanAnon__> but thanks doods
[03:22] <Nautilus> thats for me I think :)
[03:22] <CanAnon__> haha
 does anybody know of away on linux to run mssql queries i.e t-sql queries
[03:22] <Jordan_U> CanAnon__: Sorry, that was meant for Nautilus
[03:22] <Nautilus> ty
[03:22] <ubuntu_> or if it is even possible
[03:22] <CanAnon__> ha its all good dood, any tips for a samba share that wont work unless an SSH connection is open?
[03:29] <Nautilus> !lamp
[03:29] <CanAnon__> ca
[03:29] <CanAnon__> scary
[03:31] <iManassah> hello
[03:31] <azend> If I'm getting serious I/O errors like this, should I just give up and decide the sd card is pooched?
[03:31] <azend> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1160132/
[03:31] <azend> iManassah: hi
[03:32] <cfhowlett> azend: doesn't look good for the home team...
[03:32] <CanAnon__> anyone a samba expert?
[03:34] <pyrokinetic> hi there folks. looking for some assistance installing 12.04 on my laptop....if anyone could help I'd greatly appreciate it.
[03:34] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: what's the issue?
[03:34] <dpwegener> I've had a number of instances of desktop crashes recently.  Each time I receive a popup upon login following the crash.  I go through the dialogs until it gets to a page that says precise is no longer under development and I need to use technical support to fix the problem.  It then gives me a link to tech support that lead me to this irc channel.  I need help figuring out what is crashing and why
[03:35] <Nautilus> dpwegener: one thing to start with is running MemTest
[03:35] <pyrokinetic> brb
[03:35] <pyrokinetic> sorry.
[03:36] <dpwegener> When I try running MemTest, I get command not found
[03:36] <azend> cfhowlett: sdb becomes sdc when sdb gets too many errors
[03:36] <cfhowlett> dpwegener: reboot.  memtest is a boot option in grub
[03:36] <azend> udev restarts the sd card
[03:36] <azend> or something does at least
[03:37] <cfhowlett> azend: wait.  you're telling me ubuntu is reassigning the device from sdb to sdc?  NEVER heard of any thing like that.
[03:38] <nitrohax> how does one make swapon by defualt?
[03:38] <azend> cfhowlett: yup
[03:39] <pyrokinetic> back now....sorry about that. can I still tell you my problem cfhowlett or are you busy?
[03:39] <cfhowlett> azend: above my pay grade.  stay in channel and ask again.  I've NO idea.
[03:39] <azend> cfhowlett: just tried to dd /dev/zero onto the drive and it switched to sdd
[03:39] <azend> sudo dd bs=1M if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc
[03:39] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: details
[03:39] <cfhowlett> azend: too weird for me and above my current level of proficiency.  Sorry.  Ask in channel.
[03:39] <azend> I should probably post on launchpad but I don't really know where to ask
[03:40] <cfhowlett> !launchpad|azend
[03:41] <r0llz> When I connect via wireless and use dhcp automatic I cannot connect to my smb network shares, if I choose dhcp address only I can connect to the shares, but no longer have internet access
[03:41] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: trying to install ubuntu onto my laptop but my laptop has 4 partitions. sda1, sda2, sda3 and sda4 (one of them is like a recovery thing or something for windows) ....anyway. whenever I try and resize my windows partition I get this message "An error occured while writing the changes to the storage devices"....it then is impossible to quit out of the partitioner/installer and I must reboot. rinse and repeat everytime I
[03:42] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: ok, first things first: you DID md5sum check that iso you downloaded, right?
[03:42] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: in truth? no. I got it forever ago from the website so I assumed everything was as it should be? :\
[03:43] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: *slappeth upsideth headeth*  always hash check.  you're downloading gigs of data that MUST be right or strange things happen.  15 seconds of caution vs. *** amount of frustration
[03:43] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|pyrokinetic:
[03:44] <Nautilus> whats a good swap partition size for a 30G main partition?  Primary or logical?
[03:44] <cfhowlett> Nautilus: conventional wisdom seems to be swap = 2 times system ram
[03:44] <Nautilus> 4G enough?  2G ram
[03:44] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: so alright. assuming I do the md5 check and everything is fine......then what?
[03:44] <cfhowlett> Nautilus: yep
[03:45] <r0llz> When I connect via wireless and use dhcp automatic I cannot connect to my smb network shares, if I choose dhcp address only I can connect to the shares, but no longer have internet access
[03:45] <Nautilus> Logical partition?
[03:45] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: kinda betting that is where the issue lies.  Please verify.
[03:45] <r0llz> I'm stumped
[03:46] <cfhowlett> Nautilus: logical
[03:46] <cfhowlett> r0llz: details
[03:47] <r0llz> cfhowlett, 802.11n dlink router, hp laptop running unbuntu 12.04 with gnome3, remind me what pertinent nfo im leaving out
[03:48] <cfhowlett> r0llz: ... okay.  and the problem is?
[03:48] <r0llz> cfhowlett, When I connect via wireless and use dhcp automatic I cannot connect to my smb network shares, if I choose dhcp address only I can connect to the shares, but no longer have internet access
[03:49] <cfhowlett> r0llz: ah.  excellent description but, sadly, I've no smb experience to speak of.  Stay in channel, ask again.  also, maybe check in with #ubuntu-server
[03:54] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: how can I check my md5 from within linux? I'm running off a livecd (usb image actually) but have the .iso on my windows partition. I don't want to have to go all the way back onto windows just to check the md5. but I can't seem to find the file through ubuntu?
[03:54] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|pyrokinetic:
[03:55] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: in linux command line, navigate to the iso and run the check
[03:55] <howardgrigg> hi guys - I'm new to ubuntu and managing a server, I've installed a 2TB drive and copied about 9GB of media onto it but it's showing as 6% used
[03:55] <howardgrigg> I'm just wondering if I'm missing something or...
[03:56] <danielboston26> howardgrigg: whats your question?
[03:56] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: easy cheat, open a window navigator, open command line.  type your md5sum command and drag and drop the iso onto the terminal line.  the command will then point to the right location and begin the check
[03:56] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: what is the command line code again? thanks for all this btw.
[03:57] <SJr> I have an out of date package that really wants sun-java6-jdk to be installed. Is there a way I can create a dummy package for it.
[03:57] <SJr> alternatively can I just pretend the package isn't installed, it's buggy and did everything already.
[03:57] <howardgrigg> danielboston26, lol not sure… is there a good program for managing disks and filesystems that i could install on ubuntu-server?
[03:58] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[03:59] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: so my suggestion; don't bother with command line navigation to the iso.  Just type md5sum drag-n-drop-iso-here
[03:59] <danielboston26> howardgrigg: not sure
[04:00] <danielboston26> howardgrigg: check ubuntu software center for disk managerment
[04:01] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: I did that, just like you said md5sum and dragged my iso to the terminal window, hit enter and then nothing. :\
[04:01] <ParkerR> pyrokinetic, Where is the iso located?
[04:01] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: it takes a bit of time to process?
[04:02] <earspliT> exit
[04:02] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: /media/B6068B36068AF6A1/Users/pyrokinetic/Downloads/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso
[04:02] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: I got a string of characters this time
[04:03] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: check the download page and you'll find the md5sum list.  your output should match...
[04:04] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: matches fine to the ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso version
[04:06] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: ok.  Making a suggestion you won't necessarily like; download the alternate installer.  Why?  A bit more manual control and more feedback.  You getting kicked out of the desktop installer without a more detailed error message leaves few options.
[04:06] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: I
[04:06] <pyrokinetic> whoops
[04:07] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: I figured that could be a possibility. a crappy possibility it is though. :( but I understand. what is the speed like? speed vs using a livecd I mean.
[04:08] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: alternate installer will install ubuntu just like desktop.  The INSTALL experience will be different ... and require you to pay a bit closer attention to what you're doing.
[04:09] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: ooh. are we talking about wubi? or something else?
[04:10] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: absolutely not.  (btw wubi is NOT recommended for permanent install - only testing).  The alternate installer is a text based setting, so no pretty ubuntu graphics to look at while you're getting set up.  Output will be the same ubuntu as you would install with ubuntu desktop iso.
[04:12] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: alternate is a bit more hands on and less handholding than you would have with the desktop iso scenario
[04:12] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: alright. gotcha. my next question is this....when I look through my partitions through gparted it shows my windows partition (the biggest partition) as being unused. yet when I look through files through the menu system I can see all my files I'd normally see through windows. just to clarify....regardless of what gparted says....THAT is the partition I need to shrink...yes?
[04:13] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: correct.
[04:13] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: alright, thank you for your help. :D any tips on where I can get more info for this alternate install?
[04:14] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: you should also have a windows recovery partition and possibly a system manufacturer partition, e.g Dell, HP, etc.  FWIW, I killed my windows recovery.
[04:14] <lauratika> videos wont load fully or will take very long time, on any browser my speed 350kb
[04:14] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: I'll tell you what I have, hold on..
[04:16] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: I have "System" ...."Recovery" ...."HP Tools".....and the other partition has all my files, including my Windows folder. the System folder is the one concerning me, it has two folders..."Boot" and "System Volume Information"
[04:16] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: when I needed to reinstall windows, I downloaded the iso from digitalriver.com (microsoft's official source), burned a usb and reinstalled.
[04:17] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: windows 7, right?
[04:17] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: correct.
[04:17] <Stralytic> anyone know of any irc channels discussing windows 8? ;)
[04:18] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: don't touch the System Reserved folder.
[04:19] <cfhowlett> Stralytic: ask in #windows
[04:19] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: I don't have a 'System Reserved' folder, just 'System'....(folder...partition...one or the other, it shows up like a drive.)
[04:20] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: right.  don't touch.
[04:20] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: need I mention; back up critical windows data?
[04:20] <Stralytic> cfhowlett: now there's an idea, i though a linux channel would be more helpful than a windows one though :D
[04:21] <cfhowlett> Stralytic: I know there's a win8 developer forum, so irc seems likely.  good luck
[04:21] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: I think that might be quite a wise move. but to clarify....for the millionth time...so I don't end up beating my computer to death....the partition I want to shrink is the one with all my files I'd typically see/use in windows....yes?
[04:22] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: correct.
[04:22] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: relax.  you can breath now.
[04:23] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: alrighty. I can so totally do this. right. I shall do it. guess I better flick over to windows to start downloading the alternative and such.
[04:23] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: do you have a dualboot tutorial that you're following?
[04:25] <Nautilus> anyone know if this is a good tutorial for installing NoMachine (NX) on 12.04?  http://www.humans-enabled.com/2012/04/how-to-install-freenx-server-on-ubuntu.html
[04:25] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: I had a tutorial, yeah. it was working fine until I hit my first stumbling block. I find it frustrating as all hell......I've wanted to use linux for YEARS and I've yet to be successful. so maybe this will be the one.
[04:25] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: but I don't have a tutorial for this alternate version.
[04:25] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: consider virtualbox
[04:26] <Nautilus> yea, a VM would be nice
[04:26] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: I've used it. but it's just a tease and I find it too limiting. I want to unleash my computer's potential! ...or something.
[04:26] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: understood
[04:27] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: so far as the alternate installer, it follows a similar sequence as the graphic installer but no, uh, graphics.  take your time, think things through and you should be just fine.
[04:28] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: thanks so much for your help. I really do appreciate it. :D
[04:28] <cfhowlett> pyrokinetic: no worries, mate.  Have fun, be safe.
[04:29] <pyrokinetic> cfhowlett: and you! toodles for now!
[04:32] <Nautilus> just installed 12.04 (I'm use to 10.04).  How do I open Terminal?
[04:32] <bazhang> Nautilus, control alt T
[04:33] <Nautilus> bazhang: yowza. any path thropugh the GUI?
[04:33] <bazhang> Nautilus, what about alt f2 gnome-terminal
[04:35] <com12> hello
[04:35] <com12> i carnt get my usb floppy drive to work
[04:35] <osk004> hello :)
[04:36] <com12> anyone there?
[04:36] <Nautilus> bazhang: ok, command input there, but I'm not one for remembering kbd shortcuts.
[04:37] <pollard777> com12, you are sure that your floppy work ok on other system?
[04:37] <com12> pollard777, yes it does work on other systems
[04:38] <Nautilus> bazhang: oh cool, it's in the toolbar now
[04:38] <com12> pollard777, is comes up in disk utillity but doesnt read the floppy disk
[04:40] <pollard777> com12, I do not know, wait for another guy to help you. Be patient.
[04:40] <com12> pollard777,  ok
[04:42] <qmr> Any idea why when choosing 'ubuntu' session I don't get Unity menu thing or a proper window bar ???
[04:50] <[1]red> i need help installing with raid
[04:50] <[1]red> can anyone here help?
[04:58] <langhun> Where to get the chat history in the channel?
[04:58] <[1]red> no one?
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> !log | langhun
[05:00] <lotuspsychje> !raid | [1]red
[05:00] <Nautilus> anyone here use NX?  I'm moving to 12.04 and having questions
[05:01] <iManasseh> hi Nautilus - what's the prob
[05:02] <Nautilus> iManassah: new install of 12.04 and just installed ssh & NX, then logged in from another box and all I see is the desktop background.
[05:02] <GreenEmber> i just installed a new graphics card and now it is running in low graphics mode and when i try to open the nvidia-settings app it says im not using the nvidia module. do i need to get a different module for this new card?
[05:03] <Nautilus> iManassah: NX 3.5 server, NX 3.4.x on my Windows box I'm using to log in
[05:04] <iManasseh> no Unity launcher icons?
[05:05] <Nautilus> nope.  ohhhh, Compiz is crashing after boot.
[05:06] <Nautilus> so maybe that's breaking graphic display?
[05:07] <Nautilus> is tere a way I can disable Compiz for now?
[05:07] <iManasseh> lol - Once in a while I'll have a prob with Compiz...login as 2d?
[05:08] <Nautilus> oh, lemme see if I can figure out how.  I did read a note about that
[05:09] <iManasseh> well, I don't think NX is capable of using Compiz completely.
[05:09] <Nautilus> iManassah: I don't know where to set that? In my client connection?
[05:09] <iManasseh> you can reset the Unity from the terminal...
[05:10] <Nautilus> i think I need that 2d login, but dunno where/how to find it's settings.  server, client?
[05:10] <iManasseh> set what?
[05:10] <iManasseh> um, try client...
[05:10] <iManasseh> i'm not 100% sure
[05:10] <Nautilus> didnt see it there.
[05:11] <GreenEmber> what do i need to do to remove my old graphics driver and get the new one?
[05:11] <Nautilus> iManassah: oh, looking at this now:  http://www.humans-enabled.com/2012/04/how-to-install-freenx-server-on-ubuntu.html
[05:12] <viriya> hello all i want to ask I use ubuntu but can not print, why?
[05:12] <cfhowlett> viriya: did you configure your printer?
[05:13] <viriya> how
[05:13] <iManasseh> Nautilus - hang tight...
[05:13] <viriya> i use hp deskjet 2566
[05:13] <cfhowlett> viriya: system>settings>Printers
[05:13] <cfhowlett> viriya: still have to configure that in ubuntu...
[05:13] <ermygawd> hello guys
[05:13] <ermygawd> my ubuntu is borked
[05:14] <cfhowlett> ermygawd: greetings - borked how?
[05:14] <ermygawd> cfhowlett: i dont have graphical boot for some reason so i dunno if my system is checking discs
[05:14] <ermygawd> but even starting in safeX does not work
[05:14] <ermygawd> i cannot do anything
[05:14] <Nautilus> iManassah: I did create a file (locally) that I see on my remote session, so that's cool.  I guess I just don't have the top and left tool bars
[05:14] <iManasseh> Nautilus:  I'm not sure buddy...i'm stumped
[05:14] <cfhowlett> ermygawd: can you login at all?
[05:14] <viriya> after printing
[05:15] <ermygawd> i did however drop to root and dhclient
[05:15] <Nautilus> s'ok, I'm getting there :)
[05:15] <Nautilus> iManassah: thanks!
[05:15] <ermygawd> cfhowlett: no if I could log in i wouldnt be here
[05:15] <iManasseh> no prob, sorry i wasn't more help
[05:15] <viriya> halo
[05:15] <iManasseh> awesome nick by the way
[05:15] <cfhowlett> ermygawd: viriya we see you.
[05:15] <ermygawd> any ideas
[05:16] <cfhowlett> !patience|viriya:
[05:16] <viriya> after printing?
[05:16] <cfhowlett> ermygawd: try this; change your boot options to show verbose boot and you can see what's happening during bootup
[05:16] <ermygawd> cfhowlett: nice, what file is that?
[05:16] <viriya> sory i am from indonesia
[05:17] <cfhowlett> ermygawd: version of ubuntu you're running?
[05:17] <ermygawd> brb
[05:17] <ermygawd> for some reason ctrl+alt+number is not working
[05:17] <cfhowlett> viriya: you have to configure your printer or no printing.
[05:18] <root_> ummm.. how do I get my ubuntu version/
[05:18] <root_> ?
[05:18] <cfhowlett> root_: lsb_release -a
[05:19] <ermygawd> 12.04
[05:19] <ermygawd> how do i start the grpahica manger?
[05:19] <ermygawd> if not startx anymore
[05:19] <cfhowlett> ermygawd: see this for boot up messages  http://utcc.utoronto.ca/~cks/space/blog/linux/Ubuntu1204VerboseBoot
[05:19] <ermygawd> lol
[05:20] <ermygawd> i am in irssi
[05:20] <ermygawd> i cannot use web browser
[05:20] <ermygawd> is there a more simple method?
[05:20] <Jordan_U> ermygawd: sudo service lightdm start
[05:20] <ermygawd> good idea Jordan_U
[05:20] <ermygawd> thx bru
[05:22] <Jak_Atackka> Hello, I need some help with cfdisk
[05:23] <Jak_Atackka> Hello?
[05:24] <cfhowlett> !patience|Jak_Atackka:   we c u...
[05:25] <Jak_Atackka> Okay. I've already checked the website (as well as Google) and I keep running into a problem that seemingly nobody else has
[05:25] <upset> Is there a note-taking application for ubuntu where I can write in a margin besides my notes?
[05:25] <rollitup> Hi I have been experiencing strange behavior on my Ubuntu desktop, like the wrong keys keep appearing on the screen, applications keep opening up like the calculator , could this be a hack attempt ?
[05:26] <cfhowlett> rollitup: possibly but I'd check my keyboard settings first to ensure it's configured correctly
[05:26] <rollitup> everything keeps happening in a Ghostly manner
[05:26] <rollitup> i am not even touching the keyboard
[05:26] <upset> rollitup: Perhaps it is broken
[05:26] <upset> rollitup: Did you spill anything on it?
[05:27] <upset> rollitup: Is it old?
[05:27] <rollitup> no
[05:27] <cfhowlett> upset: children and/or other users near by?
[05:27] <upset> cfhowlett:??
[05:27] <cfhowlett> hmm>upset
[05:27] <cfhowlett> hmm >upset
[05:28] <upset> Again, method of taking notes in ubuntu where I can add things in the margin?
[05:28] <upset> Or annotate my notes in some way
[05:29] <upset> Besides xournal
[05:29] <cfhowlett> upset: several note options in software center...
[05:30] <upset> cfhowlett: Thanks, I know. But I don't know which, if any, allow you to write in the margins or on the side somehow
[05:30] <upset> cfhowlett: Most are actually for memos or sticky notes in the first place
[05:30] <sgo11> why is there only python-distribute-doc package and no python-distribute? if so, how to install python-distribute? thanks.
[05:30] <cfhowlett> upset: ok.  I've only used my default xubuntu note package so can't recommend anything...
[05:31] <upset> cfhowlett: Ah. C'est la vie
[05:34] <upset> No way to write side notes in any ubuntu program? Agh.
[05:35] <rollitup> sorry cfhowlett am back now there was someone at the door
[05:35] <rollitup> i have no childrens here
[05:36] <rollitup> but do u think it could be the keyboard
[05:36] <upset> rollitup: Easily
[05:36] <upset> Could simply be faulty
[05:36] <cfhowlett> rollitup: ok.  well, if you're sure there has been no liquid contamination, the keyboard settings are correct, the keyboard works and is plugged in and no keys are stuck ...
[05:36] <upset> rollitup: plug in another keyboard and see if the ghostly things still happen
[05:37] <cfhowlett> upset: then I don't know what to tell you ....  But here's a test. Create or login as another user and see if the issue continues.
[05:37] <rollitup> yes upset
[05:37] <upset> cfhowlett: Don't tell me! Tell fruit rollup
[05:37] <cfhowlett> rollitup: happens with another keyboard then it's NOT the keyboard.
[05:38] <upset> Late guys, there's a pagestyle called marginalia that I've discovered
[05:38] <rollitup> yes i have to go to the stores to get a new keyboard now
[05:38] <cfhowlett> upset: sorry, got confused there.  Dual screen dyslexia ...
[05:38] <upset> Too hardcore for me. I only have so many eyeballs
[05:38] <upset> Goodbye
[05:39] <rollitup> is there a safe mode in ubuntu ?
[05:40] <keanne> hi anyone running gammu, gammu-smsd in ubuntu?
[05:40] <FishFace> Holding down the SHIFT key before your normal boot screen comes up will give you options.
[05:41] <Wuffy> I know when dual booting, there is a safe mode of ubuntu listed in Grub. I'me a bit of a neophyte, but  if you do as Fish Face said, the grub loader will show up, and give you options for safe mode
[05:42] <keanne> i've been trying to use the runonreceive, running manually works but using gammu-smsd doesnt. log shows it was ran fine. i was wondering if there is an ubuntu specific like permission issues
[05:47] <MerlynKorr> I keep getting locked out from system admin actions where i know dern well that i am logged as one and that the code is correct. what can i do to bypass it in the instance whEre it asks for the passcode to do so in users and groups?
[05:50] <MerlynKorr> hello?
[05:51] <laolin> hello
[05:52] <MerlynKorr> did you see my description of my problem?
[05:53] <MerlynKorr> hello?
[05:53] <schwert> what are you trying to do?
[05:53] <PiNinja> I just got a new net gear wireless adapter, would it be possible to download the driver on windows then install it on ubuntu?
[05:54] <schwert> MerlynKorr, are you just looking for the sudo commands to do a task that you cant do through the GUI
[05:54] <MerlynKorr> im trying to get any admin actions done any various thing....
[05:54] <schwert> what does that mean?
[05:55] <MerlynKorr> the passcode doesnt let me do it/them.
[05:55] <schwert> if you type 'sudo ls' into console
[05:55] <schwert> and it asks you for a password
[05:55] <schwert> can you put in the correct password
[05:55] <schwert> ?
[05:55] <MerlynKorr> the passcode is refused.
[05:55] <schwert> what is the message that it returns?
[05:55] <MerlynKorr> under any and all actions the passcode is refused,
[05:56] <schwert> then unless some magic is happening, it is the wrong password
[05:56] <schwert> and I dont have any answers for you
[05:56] <schwert> apologies
[05:56] <MerlynKorr> schwert the passcode comes back as "invalid password"
[05:56] <schwert> so you are in the sudoers file
[05:57] <schwert> and you are putting the wrong password in
[05:57] <schwert> that is all I can tell you
[05:57] <MerlynKorr> actually i dont do it in terminal.
[05:57] <MerlynKorr> its within the normal os area.
[05:58] <MerlynKorr> and every t9ime i try to input and enter the code, the dern machine gives an er that amounts to password refusal.
[05:59] <schwert> not sure what to tell you
[05:59] <MerlynKorr> it happens on both of my machines.
[05:59] <MerlynKorr> i was told by this machine to report it as a bug.
[06:00] <MerlynKorr> both machines have given the err statement.
[06:00] <passing_ruffian> maybe you should try in the terminal with the sudo command
[06:01] <frybye> Hi - when opening virtualbox I got a note about a new version (4.1.20) being available and a link to download it from virtualbox.org Do I need to uninstall the old one first?
[06:01] <MerlynKorr> i have an anylist type question and it is: can pdf files do that to this computer?
[06:02] <frybye> - I assume this is just as much an ubuntu question as particularly vbox related...
[06:02] <MerlynKorr> see... i tried it in sudo at the terminal level already and no dice.
[06:03] <MerlynKorr> thank you anyway and can anyone point me to where i can report the bug?
[06:04] <passing_ruffian> frybye: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=921670
[06:05] <MerlynKorr> hello?
[06:05] <sdkfsd324> how do I graphics?
[06:06] <Gallomimia> the same way you type?
[06:06] <MerlynKorr> never mind
[06:06] <MerlynKorr> thankls tho.
[06:07] <Gallomimia> so... why does sheldon cooper from big bang theory say ubuntu is his favorite distro while he abhors windows 7 for its more user friendly GUI? isn't ubuntu the most friendly interface of the linux world?
[06:07] <sdkfsd324> thanks
[06:08] <frybye> passing_ruffian: thanks...
[06:12] <mfilipe> is there any way to put my pictures of the Shotwell in my compose message in the Thunderbird?
[06:18] <vamp774> mfilipe:  you may be able to just drag and drop
[06:19] <Ascavasaion> How do I do a release upgrade?
[06:20] <cihhan> Hi all! How can I learn when a package in repo was updated? Xen hypervisor was giving some problems in my system and I wonder if they have updated the package.
[06:21] <Antares> Ascavasaion, does it show up along with the other updates?
[06:21] <Ascavasaion> No, and I am sure it should because I am still on 10.04.
[06:22] <Antares> Have you tried some console commands?
[06:23] <hateball> Ascavasaion: Go into the settings of the update-manager and check that it actually looks for release-upgrades
[06:25] <asalways> hello guys
[06:25] <popsul_> hi
[06:25] <witchmaster> hi
[06:25] <asalways> i have a question here. how can i run gui apps wihtout desktop enviroemnt
[06:26] <hateball> asalways: Start an X session, tell your apps to run there. Question is why? :p
[06:26] <popsul_> asalways, not is way
[06:26] <asalways> i know i must have x server and gtk libraries which i alreadt have.
[06:26] <Vink> Hello! I'm trying to install 12.04 on a different machine and it's not working. Specifically, I couldn't use the default option of installing everything in one place, because grub could not be installed. A friend said that some systems can't handle having the boot thing in the same place.
[06:26] <popsul_> i think
[06:26] <Ascavasaion> hateball: I have, nothing comes up.  I chose LTS updates, and nothing.
[06:27] <Vink> And now it's even worse because I have too little understanding of how partitioning works.
[06:27] <asalways> hateball: i have started my machine  from konsole  and run X then i set the DISPLAY: 0 then i ran my app but it showed me an error
[06:27] <Antares> Ascavasaion, I haven't tried going from 10.04 personally, but have you tried something like this http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-04-from-ubuntu-10-04-via-the-terminal/?ModPagespeed=noscript ?
[06:27] <hateball> Ascavasaion: you could try running, from the cli, "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[06:28] <hateball> Ascavasaion: that would be "do-release-upgrade -p"
[06:28] <Gallomimia> partitioning is not as complicated as you think. it's not a difficult concept at all to grasp. perhaps you are questioning why and failing to understand that. it may be that no one quite understands the why of partitioning schemes in linux installs ;)
[06:29] <hateball> asalways: Well without the exact error it's hard to tell :) Some apps may look if you're running $Environment and refuse to run on bare X, etc
[06:29] <Gallomimia> vink what state is the machine you're trying to install upon in right now?
[06:30] <asalways> Error unable to initialize GTK+. is DISPLAY set properly . i set DISPLAY 0
[06:30] <asalways> ahh. i think i know da the solution
[06:30] <Vink> Gallomimia: It's in a pretty bad state. :P Well, I can use the installation CD but when I try to install I can't even get back to the partitioning part, so clearly I've messed things up.
[06:31] <Ascavasaion> hateball: I am doing that... will it automatically jump to the newest LTS?
[06:32] <hateball> Ascavasaion: I *think* so, since that should be the latest proposed upgrade
[06:32] <Ascavasaion> hateball: Okay, thank you.
[06:32] <hateball> Ascavasaion: It should tell you before it starts, either way
[06:32] <Vink> I can get to the "Preparing to install Ubuntu" step, but when I press Continue it just keeps "thinking" and doesn't get anywhere.
[06:33] <Gallomimia> ugh that's bad. what state was it in before you ever put a ubuntu liveCD in it?
[06:34] <Gallomimia> was there another OS installed? Is there still? is there any files on there you would rather not lose?
[06:34] <Vink> Obviously I had no problems continuing earlier. This happened after one of my failed partitioning attempts. The installer said there was an error and that I should reboot and so I did.
[06:35] <Vink> Well, the previous owner had a suspicious windows 7. That worked while I downloaded and burned the installation CD.
[06:35] <Gallomimia> obviously its recommended to backup important files before trying an install. is this a problem? cause my next advice is to completely blast the drive in question. erase it completely and don't put any partitions on it. then run installer again. anyone else got advice?
[06:35] <Gallomimia> oh it's a fresh acquisition. nothing you need on the drive
[06:36] <Gallomimia> best way to fix this problem from this point is to boot from the liveCD and use some tools to tinker with the partitions
[06:36] <Vink> Yes, fresh for me at least, but it's not a brand new machine.
[06:36] <Gallomimia> yeah no one cares how old it is. the only concern right now is the potential to lose a ton of data you can't afford losing
[06:37] <Vink> Right. Some tools to tinker you say?
[06:37] <Gallomimia> there's partition tools in the gui. parted i think?
[06:38] <Gallomimia> and i suggest unpartitioning the drive, or fast-formatting it. or something like that. remove any grub bootloaders bootsectors stuff like that
[06:38] <Gallomimia> get rid of it all and attempt a clean install from step 1 again
[06:39] <Vink> Using alt+f2 and searching parted I find parted_devices and parted_server. Shall I use the former, then?
[06:40] <hateball> Vink: It's more likely to be called "Disk utility" or some such
[06:40] <hateball> Vink: Although it's probably gparted. Even if parted works as well. as does shred.
[06:41] <Vink> hateball: Thanks. I'm not used to this no-menu thing, though. How do I find it?
[06:41] <hateball> Vink: alt+f2, type "disk..." should find it, I'd think
[06:42] <hateball> Vink: failing that, launch a terminal, run gparted from there :p
[06:42] <Vink> I'll try the terminal.
[06:43] <Vink> Haha! Says gparted requires root privileges.
[06:44] <Vink> How do I get that on a LiveCD?
[06:45] <howardgrigg> hey guys I'm trying to use apt-get but I'm getting lots of errors like  Something wicked happened resolving 'au.archive.ubuntu.com:http'
[06:45] <zevon> howdy everyone
[06:45] <Vink> howdy zevon
[06:46] <Vink> Is there a way to get root privileges on a LiveCD?
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> howardgrigg:did you try sudo apt-get update?
[06:48] <howardgrigg> lotuspsychje, yea that's what is giving the error
[06:48] <Vink> Oh, nevermind, sudo gparted worked.
[06:50] <Vink> Now how do I unpartition everything?
[06:51] <MonkeyDust> Vink  what do you mean?
[06:53] <Vink> MonkeyDust, I messed up the partitioning. So I'd like to remove everything and start again from scratch. So using the LiveCD, I started gparted and would like to know how to proceed.
[06:53] <hateball> Vink: You should be able to choose some like "create new partition table"
[06:53] <MonkeyDust> Vink  simply delete all partitions, backup first if needed
[06:53] <OnlyMAJ> i have problem with RecordMy Desktop !
[06:54] <hateball> !details | OnlyMAJ
[06:54] <FallGuy44> Hi, anybody around?
[06:54] <jalexandru> FallGuy44: yes ... almost 1.6k of us
[06:54] <OnlyMAJ> hateball: i'm running ubuntu 12.04 and i want to use record mydesktop
[06:55] <FallGuy44> My goodness, that's a lot of people.
[06:55] <OnlyMAJ> hateball: i have dell lotop inspiron N5010
[06:55] <MonkeyDust> OnlyMAJ  keep it one line please
[06:55] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: you have issues installing? using ? do you get an error?
[06:56] <Vink> OK, now the raided thing is unallocated, sdb is also unallocated, sda has a problem, says "can't have a partition outside the disk!".
[06:56] <MonkeyDust> ah raid, missed that part
[06:57] <OnlyMAJ> recordMyDesktop doesnt capture screen correctly ! just some part of screen capture after encoding .
[06:57] <Vink> I don't even know what raid is, to be honest.
[06:57] <FallGuy44> A person on a website has posted his Public GPG key. It's just plaintext, it's not a "key file" or anything. How do I use that key to create an encrypted message for him?
[06:58] <chuck> anybody here familiar with initramfs?
[06:59] <FallGuy44> Is anybody here familiar with the use of GPG?
[07:00] <Vink> Quick wikipedia reading, it's something that combines several disk drives into one logical unit. I guess that makes things more complicated? So what do I do next?
[07:00] <vamp774> Vink:  if you dont know what it is you dont need it
[07:00] <Vink> vamp774, can I remove it somehow?
[07:00] <vamp774> You wont be using RAID if you arent familiar with it
[07:01] <vamp774> Im unsure of specificaly what you're trying to do as I came into the discussion halfway
[07:01] <vamp774> Vink: you got a new PC with windows on it right?
[07:01] <OnlyMAJ> i have ubuntu 12.04 on my dell N5010 lotop.i want to use recordmydesktop.after capturing just some part of screen are visible and other area doesn't captured correcty . issue ???
[07:02] <Vink> vamp774, Oh, sorry. I messed up something with the partitioning when trying to install Ubuntu 12.04.
[07:02] <Vink> vamp774, Yes, I bought a machine from a family member who bought it from a friend, and it had windows.
[07:03] <TheHumanScience> So i was trying install 10.04 on a netbook and it got hung on 95% of the installation forever so like an impatient kid I yanked it out of the usb port.
[07:03] <vamp774> Vink:  How many partitions do you need?  If you're just using ubuntu you only need 1
[07:03] <OnlyMAJ> MonkeyDust: i have ubuntu 12.04 on my dell N5010 lotop.i want to use recordmydesktop.after capturing just some part of screen are visible and other area doesn't captured correcty . issue ???
[07:03] <vamp774> Vink:  just hit use entire disk
[07:03] <TheHumanScience> Now I can't install anything without getting the initramfs
[07:03] <Vink> vamp774, one would be OK for me.
[07:04] <vamp774> Vink:  you probably dont want someone elses windows copy on your machine
[07:04] <vamp774> lol
[07:04] <TheHumanScience> Am i in the right place for this question?
[07:04] <vamp774> Vink: Ubuntu desktop?
[07:04] <MonkeyDust> OnlyMAJ  can't help, never used recordmydestop
[07:04] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: have you tried recording at different resolutions?
[07:04] <MonkeyDust> OnlyMAJ  or try kazam
[07:04] <OnlyMAJ> MonkeyDust: tnx
[07:04] <Vink> vamp774, Right, I don't. :) But using the entire disk didn't work, so then I tried partitioning and now it's messed up.
[07:05] <Ascavasaion> hateball: It is updating to maverick which is 10.10 :(  So much for 12.04.  and if it has to do the update in stages it is going to be downloading Gigs! :(
[07:05] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: changing my screen resolution ???
[07:05] <vamp774> Vink:  I havent used ubuntu 12.04 yet I still prefer pre-Unity era
[07:05] <cihhan> I'm having some problems with XEN installation. I installed it and I have 24GB mem. However, I get the following error when I boot XEN kernel: not enough memory relocate dom0 kernel image
[07:05] <cihhan> Any ideas?
[07:05] <vamp774> Vink:  What do you mean the entire disk doesnt work?
[07:05] <Vink> vamp774: When I tried to use the entire disk, there was a fatal error when it tried to install grub.
[07:05] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: yes, try it to see if it makes any differences...
[07:06] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: wait...
[07:06] <TheHumanScience> any help, please?
[07:06] <Vink> vamp774: A friend said some systems can't handle having grub in the same place as everything, that's why I tried the partitioning alternative.
[07:06] <MonkeyDust> TheHumanScience  start with a question
[07:06] <vamp774> Vink:  hmm.  I've had ubuntu on many machines, versions, old pieces of junk too.  never seen that...let me think for a sec
[07:06] <TheHumanScience> I did...
[07:07] <TheHumanScience> anybody here familiar with initramfs?
[07:07] <TheHumanScience> So i was trying install 10.04 on a netbook and it got hung on 95% of the installation forever so like an impatient kid I yanked it out of the usb port.
[07:07] <Vink> Well, I suppose I could try again now that I removed things with gparted.
[07:08] <vamp774> Vink:  You should still be able to boot from the LiveCD regardless
[07:09] <Vink> vamp774: Yes, I'm using the LiveCD on that machine.
[07:09] <vamp774> Are you installing Desktop I assume? not server?
[07:09] <vamp774> I have no idea where gparted is in that
[07:09] <Vink> Yes, desktop.
[07:09] <vamp774> i usually use the drag and drop feature
[07:09] <Vink> OK, things are happening now, that's good.
[07:09] <vamp774> in the "wizard" for installing ubuntu
[07:09] <vamp774> lol
[07:10] <vamp774> I really hate doing dual boots
[07:10] <vamp774> so otherwise i just wipe the disk
[07:10] <vamp774> Ubuntu requires swap space too
[07:11] <vamp774> so you would have to take that into consideration if you wanted to manually partition
[07:11] <vamp774> but you only need 1 partition so just make your life easy and let ubuntu do the work
[07:11] <Vink> I'm trying entire disk again now.
[07:11] <vamp774> ok
[07:12] <Vink> So we'll see if that grub error reappears in a few minutes.
[07:13] <vamp774> vink:  Grub is a bootloader btw.  Incidentally I've messed up Windows bootloaders good times
[07:13] <TheHumanScience> I asked a question but still got no answer
[07:13] <soman> Hi all! What is xubuntu? Is it 1 in 1 as Ubuntu but with other graphic shell?
[07:13] <DJones> soman: Yes, it uses the XFCE desktop
[07:14] <DJones> !xubuntu | soman
[07:14] <Vink> vamp774: Yes, that much I knew at least, that it's a bootloader. :)
[07:14] <soman> It also supported by Canonical?
[07:14] <vamp774> lol
[07:15] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: correct . when i select an area on screen it run correctly.but can i do that with whole screen ???
[07:15] <vamp774> If you did in fact mess that up you would have to use tools on the LiveCD
[07:15] <vamp774> ( which is how I fixed 7 )
[07:15] <vamp774> and almost had a heartattack
[07:15] <Vink> vamp774, Yes, I used gparted from the LiveCD and deleted everything.
[07:16] <TheHumanScience> anybody here familiar with initramfs?
[07:17] <Vink> It's installing now. IIRC, the grub error happened towards the end.
[07:17] <vamp774> Aw man that stinks.  you have to wait for the entire installation to finish then get an error
[07:18] <Vink> Ah, there it is again!
[07:18] <vamp774> ok another idea
[07:18] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: you should be able to do it for the whole screen to, I checked some forms and in some cases it needed a patch to work on some graphic card ... I don't know in your case how you can fix this but it is caused by your graphic card
[07:18] <Vink> Unable to install GRUB in /dev/sda. Executing 'grub-install /dev/sda' failed. This is a fatal error.
[07:18] <schnuffle> Vink: what kind of error?
[07:18] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: forums*
[07:18] <vamp774> bootloader errors
[07:19] <vamp774> wiping and putting on ubuntu clean
[07:19] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: i check with kazam.it work correctly !
[07:19] <vamp774> ( vink is )
[07:19] <schnuffle> Vink: you cloud try to install grub manually
[07:19] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: thnx.
[07:19] <Vink> OK, I click OK on the error alert.
[07:19] <kristian_> My computer works rather strange: The interface kind'a works "half"... Keyboard mostly works while the mouse clicks doesn't. I can press alt+F2 and open a program, and run a terminal etc. But I cannot press anything with the left mouse button. If I press alt+F2 and enter firefox, i can press enter, but not click the "run" button with the mouse. However sometimes the middle mouse button works...
[07:19] <vamp774> Vink:  Can you boot into anything now lol?
[07:19] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: another question ???
[07:20] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: go ahead...
[07:20] <kristian_> It's the same if I run distribution * from a livecd (*=linux mint xfce, linux mint kde, opensuse kde...)
[07:20] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: when i start lampp then ubuntu doesn't shutdown correctly .issue ???
[07:21] <Vink> This is what it says next: Bootloader install failed. Sorry, an error occurred and it was not possible to install the bootloader at the specified location. How would you like to procees? Choose a different device to install the bootloader on [or] Continue without a bootloader. [or] Cancel the installation.
[07:21] <Vink> s/procees/proceed/
[07:21] <vamp774> continue w/out bootloader sounds like a bad idea
[07:21] <Gallomimia> uh... hm.
[07:21] <schnuffle> Vink: how is your harddisk layout?
[07:21] <Gallomimia> well it's the only option
[07:22] <schnuffle> Vink: Without a bootloader you can install it later
[07:22] <Gallomimia> it's by the installer's default. i presume?
[07:22] <MonkeyDust> Vink  type sudo fdsik -l|pastebinit and paste the url here
[07:22] <Vink> The preselected option is to choose a different device, but that might be just because it's the first option.
[07:22] <schnuffle> Vink: are you sure sda is your correct HDD
[07:23] <Vink> schnuffle: no... also, there's a raid thing.
[07:23] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: " ubuntu doesn't shutdown correctly" it goes to log in screen? or what happens?
[07:23] <schnuffle> Vink: Do what MonkeyDust suggested
[07:23] <Gallomimia> yeah then we'll know some info. is this a raid you're installing onto?
[07:23] <Gallomimia> explains why there is trouble installing an MBR
[07:24] <Vink> MonkeyDust, I can't paste because it's a different machine from this one.
[07:24] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: crash on loader screen and stop there while i shutdown manually !
[07:25] <Vink> But I suppose I can try typing it...
[07:25] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: http://www.apachefriends.org/f/viewtopic.php?p=57328 it seems to be a bug
[07:25] <vamp774> Gallominia:  I asked Vink earlier and he isn't setting up a RAID
[07:26] <vamp774> Vink recieved a pc from a friend and is attempting to get ubuntu on it
[07:28] <Vink> fdsik: command not found [pastebinit is not installed either]
[07:29] <vamp774> VinkL  Just to be clear you are walking through the GUI setup and its asking you language etc. right?
[07:29] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: i work with computer after starting lampp but after my work when i shutdown it doesn't shutdown and stop on dark pink screen while i shutdown maually with power button .
[07:29] <Gallomimia> someone spelled fdisk wrong.
[07:29] <Vink> vamp774, Yes, it did ask for language and keyboard etc.
[07:29] <Vink> Oh, fdisk, OK.
[07:29] <Gallomimia> pastebinit is probably not on your livecd
[07:30] <Gallomimia> so just leave the | out and pastebin what you see.
[07:30] <Vink> OK, I'll try that.
[07:31] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: I don't have a quick solution for this: you can probably search for the lampp pid number and kill it at shutdown but I don't know if this is a viable solution...
[07:32] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: i think it's a problem with graphic card.because i can't hibernate in any way too !!!!
[07:33] <Vink> pastebin.com/f4VGdh2c
[07:34] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: might be... you can start with that; searching for a solution to upgrade the software for your graphic card.... research it and see if you can get extra info...
[07:35] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: ok.thnx anyway. can i ask another one ????
[07:35] <vamp774> I've gotten boot errors going ubuntu to windows ( shhh! ) but not the other way
[07:36] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: you can ask as many questions as you want I you can address to the whole chat room; if somebody else knows how to help they will do it... :)
[07:36] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: ;-)
[07:37] <mehdi> ey guys i installed windows 8 and i cant boot my linux   i just did sudo grub-install but now i cant boot non of my OS wat should i do?
[07:37] <FallGuy44> Does anybody in here know anything about GPG or Seahorse?
[07:37] <FallGuy44> If not, where should I go?
[07:37] <vamp774> goody more boot erros
[07:38] <Vink> Maybe there's a boot error club to join?
[07:38] <vamp774> Putting windows on after ubuntu Windows tries to put its bootloaders there
[07:38] <vamp774> lol
[07:38] <vamp774> you may need a recovery disc for windows
[07:38] <FallGuy44> GPG is encryption. Does anybody know anything about encryption?
[07:38] <vamp774> I have had that happen
[07:39] <OnlyMAJ> mehdi: try with a live  linux and  change grub settings !
[07:39] <hateball> !anyone | FallGuy44
[07:39] <Vink> So... any advice on what I should do next?
[07:39] <FallGuy44> Oh, ok.
[07:40] <FallGuy44> I've loaded some public keys into Seahorse. How do I encrypt a .txt file?
[07:40] <vamp774> Vink:  im looking at the webpage ( pastebin )
[07:40] <CorruptDropbear> Well, I guess that kinda works
[07:40] <vamp774> This goes a bit out of my leauge i was hoping the other guy would reply again lol
[07:41] <vamp774> Yeah this RAID stuff needs to go away you arent using RAID trust me
[07:41] <Vink> I don't know how to make it go away.
[07:41] <CorruptDropbear> QUESTION: If i have no unity bars, how do I restart unity without it giving me a hissy fit?
[07:41] <vamp774> From what I understand RAID is multiple disks
[07:41] <CorruptDropbear> i'm currenty unable to see the top taskbar or anything
[07:41] <vamp774> Rapid Array of Inexpensive DIsks or something if i remeebr
[07:42] <CorruptDropbear> just my desktop
[07:42] <vamp774> *redundant
[07:42] <vamp774> *independant
[07:42] <vamp774> You have 1 disk
[07:42] <vamp774> this is an issue
[07:42] <vamp774> lol
[07:42] <vamp774> Vink: When is it asking you to do raid?
[07:43] <vamp774> You hit entire disk right? NOT select manually
[07:43] <OnlyMAJ> anyone know php irc rooms ????
[07:43] <xiukun> drupal_mail() ,  How can I judge whether a Email has been sent successfully ?
[07:43] <Vink> It's not asking me to do raid. Yes, I picked entire disk.
[07:43] <vamp774> Then what comes up; sorry its almost 4am here....
[07:44] <OnlyMAJ> can anybody say some famous php irc rooms ????
[07:44] <FallGuy44> Are there any other programs I could use in Ubuntu to encrypt a message with GPG?
[07:44] <auronandace> !alis | OnlyMAJ
[07:44] <mehdi> OnlyMAJ: i just did grub-install and i cant boot any of my OSes wat should i do?
[07:44] <FallGuy44> Besides Seahorse, which apparently doesn't do that?
[07:44] <Vink> It selects the raid thing, I think. But I'm still at the Bootloader install failed-dialogue.
[07:44] <MonkeyDust> OnlyMAJ  #php is very famous, even I know it
[07:44] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: can I pm you?
[07:44] <Vink> Someone said I could continue without the bootloader and install it later?
[07:45] <CorruptDropbear> Spamming it again: I currently can see nothing but the desktop, windows have no bar above them, no unity sidebar. What do?
[07:45] <Gallomimia> vink: as near as i can tell, something's totally fuctup.
[07:45] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: about  ???
[07:45] <vamp774> I don't know how that would work Vink, it needs it to bootstrap the OS
[07:45] <jalexandru> OnlyMAJ: I assume you have php questions :)
[07:45] <Gallomimia> that's about all it tells me on the pastebin you sent. i think it's failing to assemble the raid prior to attempting to boot from it.
[07:46] <vamp774> What other options besides RAID?
[07:46] <Gallomimia> or attempting to install a bootable OS
[07:46] <MonkeyDust> CorruptDropbear  try alt-f2 unity --reset
[07:46] <vamp774> You literally cannot do a RAID you have 1 disk
[07:46] <Vink> Gallomimia: :( Can anything be done?
[07:46] <Gallomimia> yeah. what it comes down to here is... do you need to raid this system? why?
[07:46] <vamp774> This is like a family pc right?
[07:46] <CorruptDropbear> I can't get anything with alt-2
[07:46] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: ok. i wanna know more about MVC. do you know some practices about that ????
[07:46] <CorruptDropbear> alt-f2
[07:47] <Vink> Let me try cancelling the installation and see what it says at the selection step.
[07:47] <CorruptDropbear> monkeydust: can't get anything with alt-f2, nothing appears
[07:47] <MonkeyDust> CorruptDropbear  start from the beginning, what were you doing before you came here
[07:47] <Vink> No, no.
[07:47] <FallGuy44> Is there another time of day where this chatroom is more populated?
[07:47] <Gallomimia> typically the only reason to raid is for speed, and do you ultimately need that? i think not. unraid the disks and install on one.
[07:47] <Vink> Wait, it warns that this may leave my computer unable to boot.
[07:47] <Gallomimia> it's already unable to boot.
[07:47] <vamp774> exactly
[07:47] <no-n> amixer reports that my sound is mono. how do I make it stereo?
[07:47] <Vink> Gallomimia, Sure, but how do I unraid?
[07:47] <vamp774> you can from the CD howveer
[07:48] <vamp774> it means your hard disk
[07:48] <d1rkp1tt> Hi Guys, I have a site running with postgres, python, apache, django ... and I want to have a quick and easy install/recovery process other than imaging the server. I would like to script the install of these parts. Can anyone point me in the right direction of the best way to do this?
[07:48] <Gallomimia> raids are... finnickey.
[07:48] <W4sp> FallGuy44: Encryption can be achived with GPG/GnuPG.
[07:48] <CorruptDropbear> First I tried to install Nvidia's latest drivers through the command prompt, turning off X and lightdm, then there was an error with starting x so I had to uninstall Nvidia drivers.
[07:48] <CorruptDropbear> Startx now works, but no unity appears.
[07:48] <vamp774> I've installed several versions of ubuntu yet I dont remember it asking me for a RAID setup
[07:49] <CorruptDropbear> so I just get a desktop. can open windows
[07:49] <FallGuy44> w4sp: Is that the name of the program? I have Seahorse already... it appears to hold keys but not actually do anything with them.
[07:49] <Vink> I never asked to raid. It was just there already.
[07:49] <CorruptDropbear> can't move them, that's pretty much it
[07:49] <Gallomimia> d1rkp1tt: i would just write a script that installs all the packages you want. the ones you listed pretty much. do some lookups on the ubuntu website of package names which are appropriate, and make very very good and frequent backups of the config files involved.
[07:50] <d1rkp1tt> Gallomimia, Thanks, mostly I am just wondering about the question and answer parts for postgres for example
[07:50] <d1rkp1tt> Gallomimia, How to tackle those with responses when scripting
[07:50] <Vink> OK, Installation type, I select Erase disk and install Ubuntu.
[07:50] <OnlyMAJ> mehdi: check your boot drive that is grub installed there ????
[07:50] <Gallomimia> Vink: must be in the BIOS. consider donkeying around with bios settings for awhile. maybe even resetting to factory settings?
[07:51] <Vink> Then on Select drive there is only one alternative, which is Raided.
[07:51] <Gallomimia> d1rkp1tt: i do believe there are options in scripts to provide answers to those. man apt-get
[07:51] <d1rkp1tt> Gallomimia, Thanks for that
[07:51] <Gallomimia> as far as i know there's an option to always answer yes, but that's probably not what you want
[07:51] <Vink> Gallomimia: BIOS... OK, anything in particular I should look for there?
[07:52] <Gallomimia> the scripts to provide root passwords and things like that? yeah maybe that can be scripted. suggest you look for details in the actual postgres package
[07:52] <Gallomimia> someone somewhere has scripted that. guaranteed.
[07:52] <coraxx> Anybody with IPTABLES knowledge --> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -j SNAT --to-source $PUBLIC188  ....is that correct and how do I add a paramter that makes sure only this rules apply to one specific internal ip adress ?
[07:53] <d1rkp1tt> Thanks
[07:53] <Gallomimia> im also a noob when it comes to ubuntu. still learning, but there's options in dpkg (a part of apt-get) which allow you to re-run config scripts such as for postgres
[07:53] <W4sp> FallGuy44: Seahorse is to store keys. Often, those programs are referred to as 'wallet' or 'keyring' and manages keys. Your desire is to encrupt the file. GnuPG, GPG (GPL), PGP (commercial), OpenPGP (a standard) is the choice when it comes to encryption.
[07:54] <Gallomimia> so, i'm assuming that those options allow you to specify responses? or... something.
[07:54] <Gallomimia> or perhaps the solution lies in making it skip that script, running it manually later, or scripting the setup yourself with canned responses.
[07:54] <OnlyMAJ> MonkeyDust: #php is on freenode ???
[07:54] <Gallomimia> everything is on freenode.
[07:54] <CorruptDropbear>  First I tried to install Nvidia's latest drivers through the command prompt, turning off X and lightdm, then there was an error with starting x so I had to uninstall Nvidia drivers. startx now works, but just brings me to a desktop. Windows do not have any topbar, no unity taskbar.
[07:55] <d1rkp1tt> Gallomimia, Yeah not sure, just trying to read up on it now
[07:55] <Gallomimia> good luck! i am going to sleep...
[07:55] <vamp774> Vink:  still there?
[07:56] <theadmin> I'm going to be right back, resizing partitions...
[07:57] <Vink> vamp774, Yes, trying to find something about raid in BIOS setup.
[07:57] <vamp774> Not to be rude but I am almost certain you will not solve this via BIOS
[07:57] <vamp774> whatever you do do not flash the bios
[07:57] <Vink> vamp774, or something about resetting to factory settings.
[07:58] <vamp774> OK so im watching a vid to see what ur looking at
[07:58] <Vink> vamp774, OK. Then how do I remove the raid thing?
[07:58] <vamp774> ( havent installed in a few months )
[07:58] <vamp774> The guy clicks erase and use entire disk
[07:58] <vamp774> I rememeber this
[07:58] <Vink> Did that.
[07:58] <vamp774> then he selects the disk
[07:59] <Vink> But then it selects raided disk. No other option available.
[07:59] <vamp774> From the drop menu correct?
[07:59] <MonkeyDust> OnlyMAJ  type /join #php to find out
[07:59] <Vink> Only one alternative there, so it's preselected.
[08:00] <theadmin> Actually, nevermind, I'm back
[08:00] <OnlyMAJ> MonkeyDust: it doesn't work for me !!!!
[08:00] <vamp774> Then you click install now and it fails at the end right?
[08:00] <MonkeyDust> OnlyMAJ  maybe you have to register in nickserv
[08:01] <OnlyMAJ> MonkeyDust: #php Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited !!!
[08:01] <MonkeyDust> OnlyMAJ  maybe you have to register in nickserv
[08:01] <DJones> !register | OnlyMAJ Some channels need a registered nick to be able to join,
[08:02] <vamp774> vink:  hmm
[08:02] <vamp774> reading some threads on ubuntu forum
[08:02] <vamp774> if the rest of the OS installed correctly
[08:03] <vamp774> you should probably attempt to install grub manually or somehow fix the corrupter bootloader
[08:03] <vamp774> this is why its not related to your BIOS
[08:05] <Vink> So install grub manually, you say?
[08:05] <vamp774> VInk:  unlesss your controller is RAID  ( bios ? )
[08:05] <vamp774> your HDD controller?
[08:05] <Vink> How do I check that?
[08:05] <vamp774> spam delete as your pc starts
[08:05] <vamp774> go into bios
[08:06] <vamp774> poke around and make sure your hard disk controller is not on RAID
[08:06] <vamp774> it should say IDE or AHCI
[08:06] <vamp774> instead
[08:07] <Vink> OK. I didn't see anything about raid there.
[08:07] <vamp774> What is it set to
[08:07] <vamp774> your SATA controller?
[08:08] <vamp774> unless you see stuff like Primary slave etc
[08:08] <monkeyaewtr> hlleeeeeeeeeeeeo
[08:08] <monkeyaewtr> anyone herrrrrrrre
[08:09] <W4sp> monkeyaewtr: We can see you.
[08:09] <monkeyaewtr> ohai
[08:09] <monkeyaewtr> so I'm having an issue with ubuntu
[08:10] <W4sp> !ask | monkeyaewtr
[08:10] <theadmin> !ask | monkeyaewtr
[08:11] <monkeyaewtr> While attempting to install mysql-server (via apt-get install mysql-server) I'm getting this error: groupadd: cannot lock /etc/group; try again later. I'm logged in as root and I removed all the *.lock files after googling them. What should I do?
[08:11] <theadmin> monkeyaewtr: You're logged in as root? That sounds wrong.
[08:11] <monkeyaewtr> whoami returns root.
[08:12] <W4sp> monkeyaewtr: You should not log in as root. Instead, use 'sudo <command>'.
[08:12] <theadmin> monkeyaewtr: Are you sure you're on a valid Ubuntu install? Because, well, Ubuntu's not supposed to have an enabled root account.
[08:12] <theadmin> !sudo | monkeyaewtr
[08:12] <W4sp> monkeyaewtr: Is your question related to Ubuntu?
[08:12] <vamp774> Vink:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1955993
[08:12] <monkeyaewtr> yeah, I'm in 12.04 LTS
[08:12] <vamp774> Havent read all the way through but it looks like your situation
[08:13] <W4sp> monkeyaewtr: Then how come that you are able to login as 'root'?
[08:13] <monkeyaewtr> I honestly have no idea, this is my first time running it, I usually run Debian
[08:14] <W4sp> monkeyaewtr: Why do you remove all .lock files?
[08:15] <monkeyaewtr> I googled the issue before I came here, people were having the same error and apparently it was because they had a /etc/group.lock file
[08:15] <monkeyaewtr> I removed it; didn't work for me though
[08:15] <W4sp> FallGuy44: Seahorse is to store keys. Often, those programs are referred to as 'wallet' or 'keyring' and manages keys. Your desire is to encrupt the file. GnuPG, GPG (GPL), PGP (commercial), OpenPGP (a standard) is the choice when it comes to encryption.
[08:16] <OnlyMAJ> jalexandru: i wanna know more about MVC in php. can you help me in login process ???
[08:16] <auronandace> W4sp: he left
[08:17] <W4sp> auronandace: :-( Another hit-and-run. Thanks for letting me know as I do not monitor JOINS NICKS QUITS.
[08:17] <auronandace> W4sp: if you can't tab complete the nick then they aren't here
[08:17] <MonkeyDust> W4sp  same here, there's also MODES and PARTS to be ignored
[08:18] <W4sp> auronandace: I know. It takes me some time to type. By then the person must have left.
[08:19] <W4sp> MonkeyDust: Yeah, same here too. I don't like it that some come in and expect an answer before they have hit their enter key. :-(
[08:20] <MonkeyDust> <3 irssi
[08:20] <SpiritusSancti> Alright, this is an Ubuntu Help room, Correct?
[08:20] <tjadc> Hello, how would I go about creating a process that can be controlled by a particular group ?
[08:20] <DJones> SpiritusSancti: Yep
[08:20] <theadmin> SpiritusSancti: You are correct.
[08:21] <SpiritusSancti> Okay... I need some assistance with Uninstallation.
[08:21] <theadmin> SpiritusSancti: Ubuntu is not a program, you can't "uninstall" it.
[08:21] <SpiritusSancti> I find Ubuntu unuseful to my daily use.
[08:21] <W4sp> MonkeyDust: OT: I'm very much an irssi girl.
[08:21] <theadmin> SpiritusSancti: Unless you used the Windows installer that is
[08:21] <SpiritusSancti> Well, I have it Multi booted.
[08:21] <SpiritusSancti> Its not within Win7.
[08:21] <SpiritusSancti> when i try to delete the partition, it will not let me.
[08:21] <theadmin> SpiritusSancti: To remove Ubuntu, you 1) Delete the Ubuntu partition, 2) Remove GRUB and place another bootloader.
[08:22] <SpiritusSancti> I've tried doing so.
[08:22] <theadmin> SpiritusSancti: You can't remove it from within Ubuntu, you have to do it from elsewhere. Try removing it from within Windows?
[08:22] <SpiritusSancti> However, it wants me to check the System Event Log Viewer, for an error.
[08:23] <politron> Hi there
[08:24] <politron> somebody with Ubuntu 12.04 and that is using Itellij can help me? I'm trying to put a Oracle JDK version of Java in my JAVA_HOME but with echo JAVA_HOME+Path is not working
[08:24] <politron> and the catch is that because I need Install Maven2 and this has dependencies with OpenJDK when I install Maven2 he install and put as main Java version the OpenJDK
[08:24] <politron> so bottom line
[08:25] <politron> how can I change one version of Java to another one without remove the other one in Ubuntu????
[08:25] <W4sp> politron: This is probably down to where you put the environment variable and whether you use your gnome-terminal as 'login shell'.
[08:25] <politron> I put in my .bashrc
[08:25] <InstantKrimson> SpiritusSancti: boot with ubuntu live cd/usb-stick, run gparted, remove the linux partition(s), boot back to windows and you should be able to create new NTFS partitions to reclaim the unused space
[08:25] <politron> but I'm gonna try to put in envioronmnets file as well
[08:25] <theadmin> politron: update-alternatives --set java /path/to/jdk/you/want/to/use
[08:26] <SpiritusSancti> Is there a way to do this, WITHOUT putting something on a disk?
[08:26] <SpiritusSancti> or will my phone work as a usb substitute?
[08:26] <theadmin> SpiritusSancti: Remove the Ubuntu partition from within Windows...
[08:26] <theadmin> SpiritusSancti: You do have Windows.
[08:26] <SpiritusSancti> I have windows.
[08:27] <SpiritusSancti> But it won't let me remove it from within.
[08:27] <politron> theadmin, error: alternative /usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.6.0_29/ for java not registered, not setting.
[08:27] <theadmin> SpiritusSancti: Start -> right-click Computer -> Manage -> Volume management. Use that.
[08:27] <theadmin> politron: Okay, try "sudo update-alternatives --config java", it will give you a menu instead
[08:28] <geirha> that only sets the jre I think
[08:28] <SpiritusSancti> I do not have a "Volume Management" option.
[08:28] <InstantKrimson> Disk management?
[08:28] <SpiritusSancti> Yeah, that.
[08:28] <InstantKrimson> try that
[08:28] <SpiritusSancti> I have.
[08:28] <SpiritusSancti> I've tried deleting the partition.
[08:28] <politron> theadmin, I will remember this command man!
[08:28] <SpiritusSancti> but it will now allow me.
[08:28] <politron> theadmin, thanks!
[08:28] <geirha> politron: update-java-alternatives --list    from that list, pick the one you want (first column), and run  sudo update-java-alternatives --set <that value>
[08:29] <politron> thanks everybody
[08:30] <InstantKrimson> SpiritusSancti: was it here you got that "check System Event Log Viewer"
[08:31] <SpiritusSancti> When i went to delete the volume of the Linux Ubuntu partition I got the "Check System Event Log Viewer"
[08:32]  * W4sp wonders why vi .bashrc | .bash_profile can't be used anymore to set a simple ENV variable.
[08:32] <InstantKrimson> OK, if you still have the "computer management" window open, expand Event Viewer -> Windows Logs -> System and see if you can get a more detailed error message
[08:33] <theadmin> W4sp: It can, surely, but java is complicated.
[08:34] <geirha> W4sp: because bash is not involved in the login process (when logging in graphically)
[08:34] <Vink> When installing Ubuntu 12.04 from a LiveCD, and getting a Bootloader install failed-error, how do I install grub manually instead?
[08:34] <geirha> W4sp: environment variables should be set in ~/.pam_environment or ~/.profile
[08:35] <SpiritusSancti> This is what it tells me "The Multimedia Class Scheduler service entered the running state."
[08:35] <theadmin> Vink: sudo grub-install --no-floppy --root-directory /path/to/your/linux/drives/mountpoint /dev/sda, make sure /boot is mounted.
[08:36] <aymen-12> bonjour
[08:37] <theadmin> Vink: Or you can install "bootrecovery" from APT, it's a graphical tool to manage GRUB
[08:37] <Vink> theadmin: I can do that on a LiveCD? Thanks!
[08:37] <theadmin> Vink: Sure you can.
[08:38] <theadmin> Vink: Oh, pardon me, it's "bootrepair".
[08:39] <InstantKrimson> SpiritusSancti: Doesn't sound like the right error message, you should look at some of the other messages
[08:39] <InstantKrimson>  you should get a cheap 1-2 GB usb stick and use it as a live-"cd" or burn a disk, it will probably be easierto remove the partion(s) that way, rather than troubleshooting Windows
[08:39] <SpiritusSancti> is there a way to use my phone, as a usb?
[08:40] <SpiritusSancti> that is a 4gb.
[08:40] <Tweety_> hello
[08:40] <SpiritusSancti> it has the 4gb memory stick.
[08:40] <Atlas> should work somehow
[08:40] <Vink> Have to go to work now. Thanks for all the support!
[08:41] <geirha> SpiritusSancti: It is possible to do it from within Ubuntu itself, but requires using some not-so-friendly cli tools
[08:41] <SpiritusSancti> that would work best.
[08:41] <geirha> SpiritusSancti: And you'll need a windows cd or recovery partition to overwrite the boot loader afterwards
[08:41] <SpiritusSancti> ugh.
[08:42] <SpiritusSancti> Is it possible to use my phone?
[08:42] <SpiritusSancti> as the usb, for the uninstallation?
[08:43] <heisenmink> SpiritusSancti: don't you have an usb key?
[08:43] <SpiritusSancti> no.. :/
[08:43] <SpiritusSancti> i use my phone as a usb.
[08:43] <heisenmink> SpiritusSancti: it all depends on whether your BIOS can access your phone as an usb drive without additional OS-dependant drivers
[08:44] <niwaheri> niwaheri
[08:44] <heisenmink> SpiritusSancti: you could certainly try
[08:44] <SpiritusSancti> i feel so technologically retarded.
[08:44] <SpiritusSancti> -.-
[08:45] <heisenmink> SpiritusSancti: don't. You will learn :)
[08:45] <SpiritusSancti> guess i'll give it a shot, eh.
[08:45] <InstantKrimson> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[08:46] <SpiritusSancti> InstantKrimson: what is this?
[08:46] <MonkeyDust> SpiritusSancti  we all started where you are now
[08:46] <InstantKrimson> guide to install ubuntu on USB/your phone
[08:47] <SpiritusSancti> You guys.....
[08:47] <SpiritusSancti> Y'all get paid for this?
[08:47] <MonkeyDust> SpiritusSancti  no
[08:47] <heisenmink> no
[08:47] <theadmin> InstantKrimson: Most phones aren't valid USB flash drives, they act weird.
[08:47] <SpiritusSancti> hmm..
[08:47] <SpiritusSancti> you should.
[08:47] <theadmin> InstantKrimson: Android, for instance, appears as *two* separate devices, not to mention that neither of them appear to be partitioned.
[08:47] <SpiritusSancti> I have the LG chocolate Touch?
[08:48] <InstantKrimson> yupp, I recomend buying a cheep 2 gb usb or burn to CD, but.....
[08:48] <SpiritusSancti> good enough?
[08:48] <cairne> Yea wouldn't it try to load the phone os instead I know grub gets mad when I leave my android plugged in at boot
[08:48] <SpiritusSancti> with the 4gb mem card.
[08:48] <SpiritusSancti> OH WELL.
[08:48] <SpiritusSancti> I'm gonna try it,.
[08:48] <SpiritusSancti> if you don't hear back from me.
[08:49] <SpiritusSancti> I managed to screw my computer.
[08:49] <cairne> If anything will prolly screw up phone lol
[08:49] <MonkeyDust> SpiritusSancti  you mean ubuntu, not the computer
[08:51] <jasonz> does anyone know how to enable email notification in claw email?
[08:52] <rax-> I've created rsa keys and transferred the public one to a remote server. I can login without being promoted for a password and have added that same user to visudo with nopasswd option, which seems to be working BUT when I try to run anything like ssh <user>@<host> sh script.sh it asks for the sudo password
[08:53] <woozly> guys, how to tar files into one archive, by wildcard?
[08:54] <woozly> tar 'iproc*'
[08:55] <llutz> woozly: tar cf foo.tar file*
[08:55] <woozly> thanks!
[08:56] <namoamitabuddha> How can I input symbols such as "ā"
[09:07] <theadmin> woozly: Note that tar offers no compression. If you want a compressed archive, use: tar cjf f.tar.bz2 iproc*
[09:07] <woozly> Oh.. thank you!!!
[09:08] <politron> somebody can tell me how can I introduce a sh script in the unity tool bar????
[09:18] <caB00T> Anyone has experience with debugging? I can't seem to get kdbg to work, but I reckon it's because I'm in a gnome enviorment? I'm in Ubuntu 11.04 I think.
[09:19] <caB00T> When I give it breakpoints it just ignores them...
[09:19] <blackshirt> kdbg?
[09:19] <blackshirt> Why not use gdb
[09:19] <caB00T> It's just a front end for it I think, for some graphical mambo jumbo.
[09:21] <theadmin> caB00T: Well, the fact that you're in Gnome doesn't really change anything, KDE apps work fine in any desktop most of the time. Just saying.
[09:23] <caB00T> It's the output I need theadmin, I am new to the enviorment.
[09:23] <caB00T> Just occured it could be that.
[09:23] <theadmin> caB00T: Well, try using another frontend or plain gdb
[09:23] <eutheria> without copying files into /usr/share where can i put wall papers in my user dir?
[09:24] <caB00T> Ok, I'm restarting the machine now, will pop you the error, maybe it'll tell you something. Ofc, can always use plain gdb...
[09:24] <cebor> hi my ubuntu 12.04 wont start the normal unity desktop since yesterday, it automaticly starts ubuntu 2d  :/
[09:24] <cebor> dont know why and how to fix it
[09:24] <harald_> cebor: at the login prompt, you can choose which desktop environment you want to login into
[09:25] <cebor> i know
[09:25] <cebor> but it starts unity 2d, even i choose "unity"
[09:26] <blackshirt> cebor, is your graphic cards capable to run all of them?
[09:26] <cebor> yes
[09:26] <cebor> since yesterday all works fine
[09:26] <cebor> i did not change anything in my system, only normal updates
[09:27] <cebor> is there a cmd to force start unity
[09:28] <blackshirt> unity --replace
[09:29] <krytarik> eutheria, just place them into the "Pictures" directory, located at the top-level of your home directory.
[09:29] <eutheria> Kryptron, i guess that will do
[09:30] <eutheria> no point in fighting the system
[09:30] <azi`_> is it normal to recieve 5-20 new updates each day?
[09:30] <theadmin> azi`_: Not really... Maybe once a week... Ubuntu's not a fast distro in that regard
[09:31] <caB00T> Ok, so, when I am using KDbg, I can't seem to stop at breakpoints. I get the following error in the terminal: "Warning: GDB: Failed to set controlling terminal: Operation not premitted" Can anyone help please?
[09:32] <blackshirt> what application you try to debug
[09:33] <caB00T> An example program from "ASsembly Language Step By Step...", just a "Hello World" thing, first line of code.
[09:33] <caB00T> But instead of stopping on the first instruction I just run trough program and get the error.
[09:34] <azi`_> theadmin: i am getting like 5-20 updates each day.. i am wonderig if i've gotten compromised or something
[09:34] <blackshirt> i think you was make a kernel call
[09:34] <me-1> hi...is Ubuntu going to optimized to be used in very high resolution like that of MBP ratina...?
[09:35] <vamp774> caB00T:  when i use GDB I compile with debug flags
[09:36] <caB00T> Hm...
[09:36] <vamp774> When I used g++ i compiled with the debug flag parameter
[09:37] <vamp774> or gcc, cc whichever
[09:38] <vamp774> try g++ <filename.cpp> -g   ( just assuming c++ )
[09:38] <me-1> has anybody installed ubuntu on macbook pro ratina...?
[09:38] <caB00T> I am doing assembly.
[09:38] <caB00T> Does it work with it?
[09:38] <theadmin> !patience | me-1
[09:38] <heisenmink> me-1: I've heard it's not very good atm, one sec let me find the link
[09:39] <vamp774> caB00T: oh I thought you were using GDB ( GNU debugger )
[09:40] <caB00T> Yes, with KDgb for the graphical stuff.
[09:40] <caB00T> GNU is doing internal stuff.
[09:40] <heisenmink> me-1: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=apple_mbpr_linux&num=4
[09:40] <vamp774> Then you need to compile with debug flags
[09:40] <caB00T> But I think it's just KDgb that fails.
[09:40] <vamp774> regardless of language
[09:40] <caB00T> Aha, ok... So, let me give you the line.
[09:40] <caB00T> It's rebooting, just tell me what to add. I am just following a book...
[09:41] <caB00T> nasm -f elf -g -F stabs eatsyscall.asm ?
[09:41] <vamp774> eh, Im mostly a c++ guy , I know when i write stuff in linux
[09:41] <caB00T> I appreciate the effort a lot, even if we don't solve it. :)
[09:42] <vamp774> :)
[09:42] <vamp774> i hate assembly
[09:42] <vamp774> but it looks like ur command is NASM?
[09:42] <vamp774> google what the debug parameter is for that
[09:42] <caB00T> Mhm, gdb is for debugging only in this case... :p
[09:43] <vamp774> right
[09:43] <me-1> heisenmink,  thank you for link
[09:43] <vamp774> when you compile you need this parameter
[09:43] <vamp774> not with gdb
[09:43] <vamp774> gdb needs it to to be compiled with these "flags " tho
[09:44] <vamp774> My guess is because otherwise it would be easier to dissasemble software you bought
[09:45] <caB00T> Mhm, ok... Googling into it...
[09:45] <vamp774> http://www.nasm.us/doc/nasmdoc2.html
[09:46] <vamp774> I would think your book should have some info too.  they make you pay $50 asnd throw you at the wolves
[09:47] <caB00T> Ye, kinda sux...
[09:51] <robocop33> shucks
[09:53] <caB00T> Well, I compiled it in a different format and now I at least see the green triangle, but seems to be passing the breakpoint non the less...
[09:54] <vamp774> make sure you're setting breakpoints properly then if gdb is happy now
[09:54] <TheRedMood_> Hey
[09:54] <TheRedMood_> Just using the ubuntu channel to show some of my classmates irc.
[09:54] <TheRedMood_> Any good words to them?
[09:54] <caB00T> Yo yo
[09:54] <caB00T> Greetings from Montenegro. p
[09:54] <caB00T> :p
[09:54] <vamp774> cant really remember but i think for breakpoints in gdb it is break <line>
[09:54] <vamp774> in c++ i did like break main
[09:54] <vamp774> or something
[09:55] <Catfish> hello folks
[09:55] <caB00T> In this KDbg is just clicking, like in Visual Studio or w/e.
[09:55] <vamp774> to start at the main program
[09:55] <caB00T> Just draws a red circle.
[09:55] <vamp774> Havent used KDbg
[09:55] <vamp774> just DB
[09:55] <vamp774> *GDB.
[09:55] <Catfish> do you know of a very very light weight C++ IDE so that I can run my C++ code
[09:55] <Catfish> with any bells and whistles
[09:56] <vamp774> GDB was purely command line
[09:56] <caB00T> Ye, but this thing is good for assembly to view easily all the register values and what not...
[09:56] <caB00T> Either way, if it does not start to work I'll switch to it.
[09:56] <vamp774> gotcha
[09:57] <TheRedMood_> Can someone throw up something really linux kernel related so i can be cool infront of my classmates
[09:57] <Raji> Hello Everyone, I want to configure squirrel mail for lan on ubuntu 12.04. For that i have downloaded squrrel mail 1.4.2.2. I have started the procedures but nothing worked. I have apache as a web server. Do i have to install imap and smtp or its already instal;led. Please help
[09:57] <Catfish> GOING TWICE, do you know of a very very light weight C++ IDE so that I can run my C++ code
[09:57] <vamp774> Isnt drinking cool anymore?
[09:58] <caB00T> Dev-C++ from bloodshed.net ?
[09:58] <vamp774> I have used Dev but I do not know if it is "light weight"
[09:59] <hateball> !ot
[09:59] <vamp774> free is a good price thought
[09:59] <Catfish> and don I have to download anything extra? caB00T
[09:59] <vamp774> Cat fish:  make sure you get it WITH MingW
[09:59] <vamp774> or else you just get the IDE and no compiler
[09:59] <Catfish> hmm, okay
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> !ide | Catfish
[09:59] <Dr_Willis> I just use Geany.
[09:59] <Raji>  <Raji> Hello Everyone, I want to configure squirrel mail for lan on ubuntu 12.04. For that i have downloaded squrrel mail 1.4.2.2. I have started the procedures but nothing worked. I have apache as a web server. Do i have to install imap and smtp or its already instal;led. Please help
[10:00] <caB00T> Dunno really, I used Visual Studio most of my life, compared to that it's fucking light weight. :)
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> !info fte
[10:00] <caB00T> It's a few megs, nice enviorment, all you need is therre.
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> depends on your needs really.. if an IDE  is missing the one feature you want/need.. well.. its going tobe annoying for you
[10:01] <vamp774> Yes do not get a visual studio express if you are looking for light weight
[10:02] <vamp774> VIsual Studios uninstaller is so awful too
[10:02] <caB00T> Indeed. :)
[10:05] <hateball> Raji: You need something like Dovecot, here is a good read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Squirrelmail
[10:05] <Raji> hateball: thanks
[10:11] <Ascavasaion> What version is Natty?
[10:13] <compdoc> 11.04
[10:13] <Ascavasaion> compdoc: Thank you.
[10:18] <hje841> how do I install a Canon LBP-800 printer in 12.04?
[10:19] <hje841> I have the LPT-USB cable
[10:21] <hje841> I'm following this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CanonCaptDrv190 but the canon guide is illuding me
[10:22] <bekks> hje841: And whats your specific problem?
[10:23] <kesco_Martix> Does AVG support Ubuntu X64?
[10:23] <bekks> kesco_Martix: Ask AVG :)
[10:23] <bekks> You mean that virus scanner, dont you?
[10:23] <kesco_Martix> OK.Thanks.
[10:23] <kesco_Martix> Yes.
[10:23] <mushin> rkhunter gave me some warnings :S can someone please help me figure out what they mean?
[10:24] <bekks> mushin: Pastebin the complete output please.
[10:24] <Kihokki> kesco_Martix, Try Avast! For Linux, AVG just sucks.
[10:24] <bekks> !pastebin | mushin
[10:24]  * bekks never sed a virus scanner on Linux for the last 15y.
[10:24] <bekks> *used
[10:24]  * Debolaz uses one.
[10:24] <kesco_Martix> Kihokki,But avast didn't support x64.
[10:25]  * Kihokki eats viruses
[10:25] <bekks> kesco_Martix: Why do you need a virus scanner on Linux?
[10:25] <bekks> kesco_Martix: For sharing files with Windows?
[10:26] <Calinou> why do you need a virus scanner*
[10:26] <Kihokki> Meybe he wants to scan thumbdrives just to be sure?
[10:26] <Calinou> question complete
[10:26] <viteac_> Hi
[10:26] <kesco_Martix> Yes,sometimes
[10:26] <hje841> bekks, following the instructions gives me no luck, I find no blacklist file and my printer is not on the list of supported devices (LBP-800)
[10:27] <bekks> hje841: Then you cant use that article.
[10:27] <hje841> bekks, hmm.. okay. Any ideas then?
[10:27] <bekks> hje841: I tried searching for it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1383322
[10:28] <viteac_> I wanted install some software, and when I do: ./configure I get a note: checking for gcc ... no, checking for cc... no, checking for cl... no. Configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH. How to solve this?
[10:28] <SpiritusSancti> To whomever was here trying to help me, with uninstalling my Ubuntu.
[10:28] <SpiritusSancti> Thank you very much.
[10:28] <W4sp> The surface for a potential attack on Ubuntu by a virus is zip. YOu would probably like to scan mailboxes for IMAP POP users or shared resoures as in ftp or samba.
[10:28] <SpiritusSancti> I was able to do it.
[10:28] <SpiritusSancti> :D
[10:28] <bekks> W4sp: There are more attacking vectors for viruses (even on Linux) rather than just zip.
[10:29] <nfk> does ubuntu desktop live cd still not support lvm2?
[10:29] <hje841> bekks, thanks I'll have a look
[10:29] <W4sp> :-) I meant zip as nothing actually.
[10:30] <bekks> nfk: correct.
[10:30] <Kihokki> nfk, Form your question again please. You don't make install sense :s
[10:30] <compdoc> nfk, it does not use lvm to create install partitions, but its available for creating it by hand. Maybe on the alt cd
[10:30] <geirha> viteac_: You generally want to avoid building and installing software from source. You may not be able to uninstall it cleanly. Better to look for a repository with the desired package pre-built. That said, you at least need the build-essential package installed
[10:30] <bekks> Kihokki: It perfectly makes sense.
[10:30] <hriday_> Hello everyone.
[10:30] <jose__> Hello
[10:31] <bekks> compdoc: The alternate cd is another cd than the desktop live. Thats was the question :)
[10:31] <mushin> ok here is my rkhunter.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1160570/
[10:31] <geirha> viteac_: You'll possibly need various -dev packages installed too
[10:31] <nfk> Kihokki, i'm currently on fc17 but want to get off that thing but my $HOME is on lvm2
[10:31] <nfk> so i need a distro that has lvm2
[10:31] <compdoc> bekks, gosh yur smart
[10:31] <mushin> what worries me most is that it says that sudo was changed at some point.. :S
[10:31] <nfk> and as it comes the list of those is awfully short
[10:32] <nfk> and from what i recall, ubuntu isn't one of those
[10:32] <compdoc> nfk, I use Ubuntu because it doesnt use lvm by default
[10:32] <nfk> compdoc, cool, keep doing that
[10:32] <compdoc> thanks!
[10:32] <viteac_> geirha yeah I know, however there is not a software I need in repository. BTW I know why could not configure it, I got x86_64
[10:32] <nfk> you're welcome
[10:33] <nfk> btw, i explicitly used lvm2
[10:33] <geirha> viteac_: Not even any PPAs?
[10:33] <nfk> because it's just a better idea than not using it
[10:33] <compdoc> not really
[10:33] <bekks> mushin: Whats the output of lsb_release -sc please?
[10:34] <viteac_> geirha: anyway I need badly a keylogger, I tried logkeys from repository but it seems not working
[10:34] <mushin> bekks: natty
[10:34] <bekks> mushin: You are on a virtual server, arent you?
[10:34] <mushin> bekks: correct
[10:34] <nfk> http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-install-ubuntu-over-lvm-filesystem - compdoc, is this still applicable?
[10:34] <rax-> Can someone tell me if I'm missing something in this? http://pasteit.com/18592
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[10:35] <FloodBot1> utente: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[10:35] <mushin> bekks: give it to me straight doctor :D
[10:35] <hje841> bekks, still no luck :S
[10:36] <bekks> mushin: you coulkd check packages.ubuntu.com so see wether that sudo change was an update.
[10:36] <bekks> nfk: For installing using LVM2, you can just use the alternate cd instead of the desktop live.
[10:36] <nfk> bekks, good, doing that
[10:37] <mushin> bekks: never done anything like that before - could you tell me how to go about it?
[10:38] <bekks> mushin: There is a search form for files on that page. You could use it to search for /usr/bin/sudo and see when that file was last updated officially.
[10:39] <nfk> btw, does the wm unity uses do tiling?
[10:39] <bekks> nfk: No.
[10:39] <mushin> bekks: thanks i'll check
[10:39] <k1l_> nfk: you can use a tiling addon. but its only "light-tiling"
[10:40] <nfk> k1l_, that is?
[10:41] <k1l_> its not a real tiling wm, but you can arrange the windows into 4 squares using the compiz plugin
[10:41] <nfk> k1l_, i thought unity didn't use compiz
[10:41] <mushin> bekks: sry for stupid question, but will sudo be in natty-updates under the utilities category?
[10:41] <nfk> and only 4?
[10:41] <k1l_> nfk: unity is compiz o_O
[10:41] <nfk> what would happen if i had more windows?
[10:41] <hje841> bekks, found a french site with something
[10:42] <k1l_> nfk: that is why i said: "light-tiling"
[10:42] <bekks> mushin: When there have been updates for it, yes.
[10:42] <actordc> hey
[10:43] <mushin> bekks: found it, but i can't find a timestamp for last update http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty-updates/admin/sudo
[10:44] <nfk> i take it for kubuntu i'd need alt cd too
[10:44] <k1l_> nfk: see an example here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQVkY6zMxCg
[10:44] <SiDz> kubuntu = kde ubuntu = gnomes?
[10:44] <SiDz> right?
[10:44] <bekks> mushin: You could use the changelog on the right side.
[10:45] <k1l_> SiDz: ubuntu = unity
[10:45] <SiDz> kk:)
[10:45] <k1l_> SiDz: (which is gnome3 base with the unity as shell)
[10:45] <SiDz> brb im going to install ubuntu
[10:46] <viteac_> Had anybody troubles with keylogs?
[10:46] <viteac_> I cannot start working it
[10:46] <nfk> oh god, k1l_ , fc17's gnash that i had to install myself, need gstreamer's h264 decoder, WHICH FEDORA DOESN'T HAVE
[10:47] <nfk> that was the last drop that made me go derp and look for a different distro
[10:47] <nfk> *needs
[10:48] <mushin> bekks: phew, the changlog timestamp corresponds with the log. do you know any other ways i can check for backdoors or other inconsistencies in the system? in any case thank you so much for the help :)
[10:51] <bekks> mushin: You could use the package "chkrootkit" too.
[10:57] <mushin> bekks: chkrootkit gives me nothing! thanks again
[10:59] <hriday> How to configure a server?
[10:59] <hriday> please help
[10:59] <hriday> thanks for any suggestions.
[10:59] <bekks> hriday: What exactly on "a server"? Please be more specific.
[11:00] <nfk> bekks, he's clearly running netcat shell
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[11:02] <hriday> bekks:I am using ubuntu 10.10.and now i want to configure a DNS server.
[11:02] <hriday> Can you help me
[11:02] <hriday> ?
[11:02] <MonkeyDust> hriday  you can't, 10.10 is too old, no longer valid
[11:03] <bekks> hriday: We dont know.
[11:03] <cfhowlett> !eol|hriday:   time to upgrade
[11:03] <hriday> Okay friends.
[11:03] <hriday> Thank you for your time.
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> hriday  first upgrade, then ask again
[11:03] <cfhowlett> hriday: suggest you install LTS release i.e. 12.04
[11:04] <cfhowlett> !lts|hriday:
[11:04] <hriday> Thanks ubottu
[11:04] <hriday> Thanks cfhowlett
[11:04] <cfhowlett> hriday: best of luck
[11:06] <LoonaTick> Hi. I have a partition which got corrupted due to some temporary I/O problems. When I run dumpe2fs it shows there still are a lot of inodes, but it seams the root inode is gone. The error I get: "[ 5536.757977] EXT3-fs (sda1): error: get root inode failed". When I try to repair the disk with fsck it leaves a huge lot of files in /lost+found. Anyone know how to fix my root inode?
[11:07] <sahegde> whois adac
[11:07] <bekks> LoonaTick: Thats possible only with your backup.
[11:07] <LoonaTick> bekks: I have a backup of the entire filesystem, only /var/lib/mysql was left out in the backup.
[11:07] <LoonaTick> which is the folder I'm trying to recover.
[11:08] <LoonaTick> but it's a filesystem backup, not a block backup.
[11:08] <LoonaTick> a file backup*, not a block device backup
[11:09] <LoonaTick> so, bekks, I guess that isn't of any use?
[11:09] <bekks> LoonaTick: Then most likely you will lose that folder contents.
[11:09] <LoonaTick> ok, thanks. And with the remaining of the most likely part you mean I can only recover it by examining stuff in /lost+found?
[11:10] <bekks> LoonaTick: Correct.
[11:10] <LoonaTick> thanks
[11:24] <ree> hello, my plugins in vim aren't runing when I use vim under root prev.help :))
[11:26] <Shadow`> im on ubuntu 11, got sources list dutch repo host 'oneiric main restricted', dist-upgrade would bring it to 12.04 right?
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> why are you doing that ree?
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> Shadow`: not the right way
[11:28] <Shadow`> that just shows 11.04 to 11.10 and im on 11.10
[11:28] <ree> Dr_Willis: edditing files in /var/www/ needs root
[11:28] <Dr_Willis> ree with the use of groups it dosent
[11:29] <hateball> Shadow`: if you're on 11.10 you should simply be able to use the update-manager, or do-release-upgrade
[11:30] <Shadow`> cool ill go with do-release-upgrade :) thanks
[11:30] <Shadow`> stupid thing cries that im doing it through SSH =p meh, not gonna hang in the server room for another hour or so
[11:30] <tala_> Hi, how do I edit the PATH enviornment parameter? I don't want to just add new path to it, but to change the order of some of the default stuff.
[11:33] <kandinski> how to create an ad-hoc network with 12.04?
[11:34] <troulouliou_dev> hi i have a dual boot with windows 8 rtm , when i tried to mount the win8 partition through nautilus i have en error message that says that i have to add -o remove_hiberfile to mount
[11:34] <troulouliou_dev> is it possible to configure this for nautilus
[11:34] <thinkpad> kandinski, please google !!!
[11:36] <theadmin> !ics | kandinski
[11:36] <theadmin> !google | thinkpad
[11:38] <beakor> hello mates
[11:38] <beakor> How do I double the size of my / partition, provided my disk has enough space?
[11:38] <cfhowlett> beakor: boot live usb, disk utilities>resize
[11:39] <beakor> will it delete my data?
[11:39] <Sidewinder1> Back it up anyway.
[11:39] <beakor> right I could use a fresh install in my netbook
[11:40] <cfhowlett> beakor: back up data.  always.  each time. every time.  but to answer your question, properly done it "should not"
[11:40] <Sidewinder1> Operative on the "should" not. ;-)
[11:40] <lupzz> hi, I've ubuntu 12.04 and a BCM4313 [14e4:4727
[11:40]  * Sidewinder1 Butts out..
[11:41] <cfhowlett> lupzz: and lemme guesss; no wifi
[11:41] <lupzz> however it is either slow or it does not connect at all.
[11:41] <lupzz> cfhowlett, something like that.. yeah
[11:41] <beakor> I never backup my data
[11:41] <beakor> how do I use rsync to do it?
[11:42] <jalexandru> beakor: then you are used with crying after data...
[11:42] <cfhowlett> beakor: expect unforeseen consequences
[11:42] <lupzz> suggestions?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> beakor: you can use grsync to give a GUI to rsync
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> lupzz: what wifi chip do you use?
[11:42] <Sidewinder1> Type, in terminal, man rsync or d/l grsync a front end GUI for rsync.
[11:43] <Sidewinder1> ActionParsnip, Beat me, again. ;)
[11:45] <lupzz> ActionParsnip, BCM4313 PCI id 14e4:4727
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[11:47] <kandinski> thinkpad, theadmin giving ubottu the !ics command helped more than you asking me to google
[11:48] <kandinski> thinkpad, I had googled, but got nowhere. "Internet Connection Sharing" is a term I had not looked up.
[11:48] <kandinski> theadmin: thanks!
[11:48] <theadmin> kandinski: No problem, hope you get it up
[11:49] <fff> vi
[11:50] <kandinski> so far I can't even connect to another computer's ad hoc connection
[11:50] <theadmin> fff: This is not a terminal.
[11:50] <fff> oh !
[11:50] <cfhowlett> !vi|fff
[11:51] <fff> strange
[11:53] <glauco29> what is the best to install Java RE (virtual machine) on ubuntu 11.04?
[11:54] <fff> a good question ?!
[11:55] <glauco29> what is the best way to install Java virtual machine on ubuntu 11.04?***
[11:55] <cfhowlett> !patience|glauco29:
[11:55] <jayakrishnan> apt-get install
[11:55] <theadmin> glauco29: sudo apt-get install icedtea-6-plugin # Is the way I do it. Technically, that's the browser plugin, but it pulls in the JRE anyway.
[11:56] <`4fun`> heya guys, i added a batch file to my rc.local file like this: http://pastebin.com/0R0Ayk9h but it doesnt run at boot like it should be
[11:56] <`4fun`> am i doing it wrong?
[11:56] <fff> sudo apt-get install "nom du fichier"
[11:57] <roasted> hello!
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> `4fun`: the line you added does nothing, it's a folder
[11:58] <roasted> Question - does anybody know of a way to actively sync data between two boxes 247? Think rsync, but it doesn't run based on time, or based on keystroke, but instead it just continually runs... 247... think of it like a RAID 1 mirror (sort of), but between two boxes on the LAN.
[11:58] <`4fun`> ActionParsnip, hmm how do i add it then? the batch file is called "batch03", i thought thats the right way
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> roasted: cron the rsync job to run at regular  intervals
[11:58] <theadmin> `4fun`: If it's a file, remove the trailing slash
[11:58] <theadmin> `4fun`: /usr/ is a folder. /usr is either a file or a folder, depending on a context.
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> `4fun`: then delete the end slash, the script will then run
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> `4fun`: if the script runs forever, rather than firing once, add an ampersand to the end of the line, like so:  /home/testuser/scripts/batch03 &
[11:59] <roasted> ActionParsnip: the idea is to have it active at all times, not so much scheduled. The idea here is to have two linux boxes on a LAN, no external ISP connection, and run video surveillance feeds to those two boxes. That way if mr thief jacks one box, he'll likely not realize there's a 2nd DVR on site. Problem is, cron'ing a job wouldn't fly because if it runs hourly, it'll likely miss the most important window.
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> roasted: you don't need a web connection for LAN sync
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> roasted: a cron job can run every second if you desire
[12:00] <`4fun`> ah let me gie that a try
[12:00] <roasted> ActionParsnip: I know. I meant if there was a web connection, I would just rsync the data offsite. But since we don't have a web connection, I want to LAN sync it across a 2nd box for a greater chance of retaining the footage even if a box is stolen.
[12:00] <llutz_> ActionParsnip: it cant
[12:00] <roasted> ActionParsnip: how would the command ever complete itself? I would think it would cancel out the previous job, then begin the new job, therefore negating the previous point of it running.
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: well, every minute it can
[12:01] <llutz_> ActionParsnip: true ;)
[12:01] <theadmin> Doesn't rsync have a daemon?
[12:01] <theadmin> Thought it does.
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> roasted: you can use dropbox to sync over LAN
[12:01] <llutz_> !info lsyncd | roasted look there, maybe it helps
[12:01] <roasted> ActionParsnip: dropbox... on the LAN?
[12:01] <compdoc> theadmin, I think it does to provide a server
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> roasted: sure
[12:02] <roasted> I don't know if you guys use owncloud, but I'm basically after csync functionality, which is what owncloud's client runs on...
[12:02] <roasted> I'm not sure if csync can be ran like a regular command tho.
[12:02] <roasted> I wonder if something like unison would fly?
[12:02] <llutz_> !info incron | roasted or this one
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> roasted: why not just make a file share and have it accessible as a single point, rather than syncing it?
[12:04] <roasted> ActionParsnip: the idea is to have two identical boxes on the LAN, so if one gets stolen by a thief, the video feeds still exist elsewhere.
[12:05] <roasted> ActionParsnip: otherwise I would just share it out via samba, like I do at home with my own personal surveillance setup.
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> ahh, then the timelyness isn't really critical, its just a backup
[12:05] <roasted> ActionParsnip: but actually, it is. Think about it. If a thief breaks in and within 3-5 minutes finds the DVR and steals it, I'm counting on those specific 3-5 minutes of his entrance to be on box B
[12:05] <roasted> ActionParsnip: if it's not an active sync, or an hourly sync or whatever, I could easily miss out on that time frame.
[12:06] <roasted> I'm looking into unison right now. It looks like it may fly... not sure yet...
[12:06] <`4fun`> that worked great
[12:06] <`4fun`> just one little thing
[12:07] <jrib> roasted: unison is more appropriate for a two-way sync imo
[12:07] <new2net> How can I perform security updates from my console on 12.04?  "87 packages can be updated." , "22 updates are security updates."
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> new2net: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:07] <hateball> new2net: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:07] <hateball> :D
[12:07] <roasted> jrib: I remember looking at Unison for a backup solution and I realized it wasn't what I was after (this was for a regular home backup), but now that I read more into it, it looks more like it in this particular scenario.
[12:08] <new2net> ActionParsnip, hateball, oh. I did the apt-get update, but not the "upgrade". I see, thank you
[12:09] <hateball> new2net: update will only check for new things, not install them
[12:09] <compdoc> new2net, theres an option to have apt install security updates automatically. Not sure if you can do that manually
[12:09] <`4fun`> ActionParsnip, i have part of the patch that adds a text to ipv6-status text file to confirm the script ran fine, it works if i run it manualy
[12:09] <`4fun`> but it doesnt work when it runs at boot
[12:09] <`4fun`> or does it put it in the root directory?
[12:09] <`4fun`> root user direcory i mean
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> `4fun`: did you add the absolute path of the file to update?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> `4fun`: yes, it runs as root, so if you use ~ then that will be /root not /home/username
[12:10] <roasted> jrib: only question I would have about unison... is can it run continuously 247...
[12:10] <jrib> roasted: no
[12:10] <roasted> jrib: and the hunt continues. :(
[12:11] <jrib> roasted: well I mean it won't be any different than what you would do with rsync
[12:11] <roasted> jrib: :(
[12:11] <roasted> jrib: think about rsync, but with the capability of recognizing that you just created a text file, and within seconds that text file is already on the 2nd server.
[12:11] <`4fun`> ActionParsnip, yes, the batch worked fine at boot, but this part didnt: echo IPv6 has been added at $(date) >> /home/testuser/ipv6-status
[12:11] <roasted> jrib: that's what I'm after. exactly that. :(
[12:11] <jrib> roasted: well my naive solution would be to use rsync and incron
[12:12] <roasted> jrib: what exactly is incron? Even when installed there's no man entry for it.
[12:12] <jrib> roasted: incron lets you execute programs based on filesystem events
[12:12] <glauco29> I am using 11.04, Can I upgrade to 12.04 without lose data?
[12:13] <roasted> jrib: oh, and creating a text file would = filesystem event... I would think...
[12:13] <jrib> roasted: like cron but for filesystem events
[12:13] <jrib> roasted: sure
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> glauco29: sure, as you will have made backups of data you don't want to lose
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> glauco29  yes, if you a backup or a separate /home
[12:13] <jrib> roasted: if you're only making changes on one side, I would use rsync.  If both sides can change, I would use unison
[12:13] <llutz_> !info drbd | roasted another idea
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> `4fun`: instead, try:    echo "IPv6 has been added at $(date)" | tee -a /home/testuser/ipv6-status
[12:14] <llutz_> bad idea :(
[12:14] <roasted> jrib: both sides won't be changing. there will still be a primary and secondary (primary being the one written to). I just want the secondary to be within seconds of accuracy to being identicle to the primary box.
[12:14] <roasted> jrib: fyi its "incrontab" for searching the man page... in case you're curious.
[12:15] <jrib> roasted: http://www.oriontransfer.co.nz/gems/lsync/index says "real-time synchronisation" on there; never used it myself
[12:15] <glauco29> Sorry, I told wrong
[12:15] <jrib> roasted: you'll also want to take a look at the "inotify" man page if you go the incron route
[12:16] <glauco29> I want keep my programs, for ie: Ruby, Mysql and Rails installed ActionParsnip MonkeyDust
[12:16] <`4fun`> ActionParsnip, thanks alot dude, that did it!
[12:16] <jrib> roasted: and my guess is you may have some issue if multiple rsync process spawn at the same time (a new one spawns before the last one is finished) but I'm not sure
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> `4fun`: for adding to files I suggest you use tee rather than >>. its a bit beater
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> *neater
[12:16] <roasted> jrib: agreed... hence my slight disinterest in going the traditional rsync route.
[12:16] <crueger> Hi
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> glauco29: You can upgrade but it will take a long time and take a lot of data,
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> !clone | glauco29
[12:17] <crueger> I am looking for good ways to speed up the boot process for ubuntu...
[12:17] <jrib> roasted: I would just check if a rsync process spawned by the script is already running and if it is, do nothing
[12:17] <shlafrock> does gnome shell (gnome3 ) needs accelleration ? i instaled package but when i login to gnome i still see classic gnome 2 ..
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> crueger: preload can help
[12:17] <crueger> Are there any tutorials, for example how to reduce the work which is done in the initrd?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> crueger: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> crueger  don't use eye candy (compiz) -- don't use a network manager
[12:18] <crueger> Okay, I guess I should give more detail. The system is an embedded system (pandaboard) using ubuntu core
[12:19] <SiD_> hi im having a problem setting my 2 screen resolution, im only able to have it mirrored or one screen enabled only
[12:19] <SiD_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1160695/
[12:19] <crueger> There will only be a few applications running, and they should be active all the time
[12:19] <SiD_> if i try to enable the second screen while not mirrored... the pastebin show what happen
[12:19] <SiD_> any1 can help with that?
[12:19] <glauco29> The recommended is that I install again from sketch ActionParsnip
[12:19] <glauco29> ?
[12:19] <crueger> Unfortunately the system is not running right now (I am using the board for some other tests currently), so I cannot check the output of lsb_release
[12:20] <jrib> roasted: http://www.unix.com/shell-programming-scripting/63145-rsync-script-cron-stepping-itself.html there's some discussion about that here.  Even though it's with crontab, the same solution should work
[12:20] <alek66> I want two disk to be mounted at boot time, automatically, Why don't they appear in the fstab? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1160697/ heres fstab and other info)
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> crueger: what is the output of the command I gave please
[12:20] <roasted> jrib: thanks!
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> glauco29: I would, it'll give a cleaner OS
[12:20] <roasted> jrib: your "check if running" idea is a good thought too
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> put them in the fstab if you want.
[12:21] <crueger> ActionParsnip: Unfortunaltely the system is currently doing some other tests, so I cannot test the output.. I'll reboot the board and then check
[12:21] <roasted> jrib: I'm just not sure how I would set that to run as frequently as I need. Can you set a script to run every minute in cron?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> crueger: you can open another terminal
[12:21] <crueger> Not if the board is not running ubuntu currently...
[12:21] <jrib> roasted: you could do it every minute I guess with regular cron.  Or you could do it after every relevant filesystem event using incron
[12:22] <glauco29> do you think that 12.04 LTS is worth to upgrade from sketch (LTS is a great new no)?
[12:22] <crueger> ActionParsnip: It's not for the computer I am working on, but an embedded device (which I need to reboot now)
[12:22] <roasted> jrib: I'm still looking into incron. Incron doesn't seem to let me edit the file.. even as root...
[12:22] <jrib> glauco29: what is "sketch"?
[12:22] <roasted> jrib: might be old instructions though
[12:22] <jrib> roasted: read /usr/share/doc/incron/README.Debian
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> glauco29: its supported til 2017, so you won't have to upgrade again for a long time :)
[12:22] <glauco29> from ground up
[12:23] <glauco29>  jrib
[12:23] <crueger> ok, reboot in progress
[12:23] <jrib> glauco29: you mean "scratch"?
[12:23] <InstantKrimson> sounds right...
[12:23] <crueger> ActionParsnip: It's running precise, but based on ubuntu core
[12:23] <glauco29> yeah jrib, my english is bad rs sorry
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> crueger: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89491   may help
[12:24] <crueger> ActionParsnip: So lsb_release -sc just prints "precise"
[12:24] <jrib> glauco29: no worries.  What do you have installed now?
[12:24] <kbroulik> what do I have to watch out for when installing Ubuntu on a notebook with UEFI and GPT?
[12:24] <glauco29> 11.04 with mysql, ruby and rails, just it I installed Ubunto yesterday rs
[12:25] <crueger> ActionParsnip: I'll have a look... thanks...
[12:26] <llutz_> roasted: just have a look, drbd sounds exactly as what you want to me http://goo.gl/QgnMV
[12:26] <jrib> glauco29: 11.04's support will run out in october of this year, so if you've just installed it and are considering upgrading to 12.04, I would highly recommend it (then you'll have support for 5 years)
[12:27] <roasted> llutz_: thanks, I'll look into it now!
[12:28] <crueger> ActionParsnip: This post seems to be mainly about removing uneccesary system services in ubuntu prior to upstart..
[12:28] <crueger> ActionParsnip: This post seems to be mainly about removing uneccesary system services in ubuntu prior to upstart..
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> crueger: Works here
[12:29] <crueger> ActionParsnip: I already removed all services from the old sysVinit runlevels which are not needed...
[12:29] <gitesh> Guys, I have broken my network connection settings (in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS)
[12:29] <glauco29> I will do it jrib, thank you for support (jrib, ActionParsnip)
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> gitesh: what did you do to break it?
[12:30] <gitesh> I have to use pppoeconf to set my internet connection. Not able to configure simply via GUI.
[12:31] <crueger> What would be more interesting would be some way to remove stuff from the ramdisk... I exactly know the hardware on which the system will be run and I would not object to complaining my kernel
[12:31] <`4fun`> ActionParsnip, just one last question, where do you think is the best location to put the batch file in?
[12:31] <crueger> When measuring, the system takes most time, before the ramdisk could do it's thing, and it would be great if we could get rid of that
[12:32] <crueger> argh, meant to say "compiling my kernel" not "complaining my kernel"
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> `4fun`: wherever you want, there is no best. I like to make ~/.bin   and add it to PATH and use that for my user scripts. Its not best, just how I do it
[12:33] <Kasir> What's up peeps, I making a bootable usb with Ubuntu using UNetbootin and I'm comfused what to choose from the dropdown next to distrubution, help please
[12:33] <alek66> I have two hard disks I want them to be mounted at boot time, automatically, they appear as if they were pendrives (I see the disk and have to click to mount them) Why don't they appear in the fstab? (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1160697/ heres fstab and other info)
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Kasir: look down, there is an option for ISO. The dropdown for distro you can ignore
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Kasir: be sure to MD5 test the ISO first
[12:34] <hateball> alek66: Did you add them after install, or are they perhaps using NTFS?
[12:35] <alek66> hateball: they were at installation, both ext4
[12:35] <cfhowlett> Kasir: what actionparsnip said.  15 seconds of diligence will save hours of frustration
[12:36] <Kasir> @ActionParsnip this is the biggist space between to radio I've ever seen :P, how to make the md5 test??
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> !md5
[12:36] <hateball> alek66: well unless you specified a mountpoint during install, they wont get one. you can use "sudo blkid" so get their UUIDs, then adjust fstab as you see fit
[12:37] <Kasir> @ubottu, thanks I'll check it
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> !bot | Kasir
[12:38] <Kasir> @ubottu thanks mate
[12:39] <alek66> hateball: I didnt saw a anything during install... just got asked where to install... I dont want to have a mess on the mounting situation later :S thanks
[12:39] <mobodo> what am I supposed to use in Ubuntu to configure my network? the network tool tells me it is not compatible with this version… :(
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> mobodo: what network chip do you use?
[12:41] <mobodo> ActionParsnip: Realtek RTL8111/8168B Ethernet controller
[12:41] <hateball> alek66: Well if they are removable drives it's probably not a great idea adding them to fstab
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> mobodo: let me search, what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[12:42] <alek66> hateball: both hard disks, one sata one ata
[12:42] <mobodo> ActionParsnip: "precise"
[12:42] <jalexandru> how can I know if I have pecl zip installed?
[12:42] <alek66> hateball: by doing this how do i get rid of the "click n mount" i just want one thing to
[12:42] <alek66> mount
[12:43] <hateball> alek66: Afraid I'm not familiar with that in Ubuntu (as I run Kubuntu) but there might be an option for "removable" drives to be automatically mounted, without having to edit fstab
[12:44] <hateball> alek66: I'm sure if you stick around someone else might know :)
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> mobodo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1022411   looks like you'll need to compile the driver
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> mobodo: if the system is a desktop, i'd just spend 5 quid and grab a cheap realtek thing which will work out of the box
[12:45] <mobodo> ActionParsnip: well, I can get it to work manually, it's just that for some reason the config resets everytime I reboot
[12:45] <mobodo> ActionParsnip: and I was wondering why the network tools told me it was not compatible, you're sure it'd be a driver problem?
[12:45] <mobodo> ActionParsnip: I mean, ifconfig eth1 up works fine
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> mobodo: ah, then how are you configuring it
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> mobodo: add the command in /etc/rc.local  above the exit 0 line, it will run at boot. It's not a driver issue clearly
[12:46] <alek66> hateball: they are not remomable disks.... perhaps someone later can help me, thanks :) have a good one.
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> mobodo: did you configure IP addressing in /etc/network/interfaces ?
[12:46] <mobodo> ActionParsnip: right now I use the /etc/network/interfaces file that I edit by hand, then ifconfig eth1 up, but I'm confused by all the tools on Ubuntu for networking, I think some of them overwrite my settings
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> mobodo: do you have the line:   auto eth1     in the file?
[12:47] <mobodo> ActionParsnip:  no, it's set to static ip
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> mobodo: you still need:  auto eth1   so it comes UP automatically
[12:48] <llutz_> mobodo:read " man 5 interfaces"
[12:48] <hateball> alek66: Yes I understood they are not removable. But I also understood it as you didnt want to risk messing up fstab
[12:49] <mobodo> ActionParsnip: ahh, ok!
[12:50] <mobodo> so ifup != ifconfig up?
[12:50] <llutz_> mobodo: correct
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> mobodo: add the line and reboot to test
[12:51] <sebersole> trying to get access to oracle software following steps at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Oracle  but the step `apt-get update` keeps hanging with "waiting for headers".  any ideas?
[12:51] <danny> is there a place i can find the kde icon theme i love it but i like the ui in traditional ubuntu
[12:52] <Plumblum> okey i have fucked up again :/
[12:52] <Plumblum> i can axcess my ftp/webserver/whatever
[12:53] <Plumblum> but with the name/pass i use in putty i get logged in fine
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> sebersole: maybe the server is busy or under maintenance
[12:53] <Plumblum> but i cant login with the same user/pass on my ftp server
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Plumblum: can you telnet to the FTP socket?
[12:54] <alek66> hateball: thanks man
[12:54] <Plumblum> ActionParsnip, im a beginner at this, although i have setup other ftp servers before
[12:54] <Plumblum> but could you say that in simpler english
[12:54] <mobodo> llutz_, ActionParsnip: Any idea why when running /etc/init.d/networking restart I would lose the connection again?  that seems to the be what disables my connection whenever I reboot.  Typing ifup eth1 makes it work again.
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Plumblum: IP address + port number = socket
[12:54] <sebersole> ActionParsnip: so just keep trying the steps?
[12:55] <Plumblum> ah well gimme a sec
[12:55] <sebersole> i can get to the url inbrowser just fine
[12:55] <sebersole> not sure what that means in terms of apt though
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:58] <Plumblum> when using telnet to same ip and port
[12:58] <Plumblum> connection refused
[12:58] <Plumblum> oh sorry wrong portnumber
[12:59] <Plumblum> it connects just fine
[13:00] <Plumblum> i guess he leaved
[13:00] <Plumblum> anyone else ?
[13:00] <Plumblum> i dont see why my ftp username would be different from the ssl one
[13:01] <tehnef> Plumblum: what's the problem?
[13:01] <Plumblum> neither for the password
[13:01] <Plumblum> well same acc for ssl and ftp
[13:01] <Plumblum> local users are allowed in the config
[13:01] <Plumblum> i can login fine with ssl
[13:01] <tehnef> you mean ssh
[13:01] <Plumblum> but i get 503 login incorrect with my ftp client
[13:01] <tehnef> what ftp daemon are you using?
[13:02] <Plumblum> vsftpd
[13:02] <tehnef> did you turn anonymous off?
[13:03] <tehnef> it seems to be on by default
[13:03] <llutz_> Plumblum: local_enable=true   is set?
[13:03] <Plumblum> tehnef, yep i didnt uncomment it, just set it to NO
[13:03] <Plumblum> and local_enable=YES
[13:03] <Plumblum> is it supposed to be true ?
[13:03] <Plumblum> not sure if it matters
[13:04] <llutz_> Plumblum: "yes" is fine
[13:04] <tehnef> Plumblum: btw you might want to revisit turning on FTP at all.
[13:05] <Plumblum> if i set it the other way around i can log on as anon just fine, not sure why my pass on the ftp woudl be different from the ssh one
[13:05] <Plumblum> tehnef, could you explain that :) ?
[13:05] <MatBoy> I'm building a loadbalanced Postfix cluster and I wonder with what kind of protocol I shall conect to my storag node, NFS or iSCSI
[13:05] <MatBoy> *storage
[13:06] <llutz_> Plumblum: "check if using sftp instead of ftp would be an option"
[13:06] <Kasir> guys what to put in space used to preserve files across reboots field when making a bootable iso using UNetBootin ???
[13:06] <tehnef> Plumblum: FTP all by itself is pretty insecure, freaks out on firewall/NAT, and you can generally get what you need done via SFTP, which is really just SSH
[13:07] <Sidewinder1> Mornin' BluesKaj . Hope all is well. :)
[13:07] <tehnef> MatBoy: if your storage and traffic are on the same network, NFS is your best choice
[13:08] <Plumblum> llutz, sftp would indeed be ok, but since this is my first time setting up an ubuntu server i thought i should start small, im already happy with getting everything else setup. only thing left is transfering files to/from the server so sftp or ftp does not really matter
[13:08] <llutz_> Plumblum: well, ftp without need is always a bad choice
[13:08] <tehnef> Plumblum: if ssh is enabled, SFTP is too
[13:08] <MoTec> about to setup a new vm running ubuntu to make an externally accessible ftp server where the ftp home folders are on a windows server... wish me luck :)
[13:08] <tehnef> Plumblum: meaning you don't have to do any more work
[13:09] <Plumblum> ehm i have to admit i didnt think of that
[13:10] <Plumblum> guess i only need to figure out how to use it then
[13:10] <tehnef> it's cool, we all start somewhere Plumblum ;)
[13:10] <tehnef> usually at the beginning :P
[13:10] <MoTec> Plumblum: just get WinSCP3
[13:10] <tehnef> or filezilla
[13:10] <llutz_> or lftp
[13:10] <Plumblum> tehnef, depends on who you are talking to ;) the ppl in here really differs in how they help ^^
[13:11] <Plumblum> how do i remove a program and all its config files etc ?
[13:11] <BluesKaj> hey Sidewinder1 yes , I'm fine thanks , how about you ?
[13:11] <Plumblum> last time i didnt have succes with apt-get remove
[13:11] <llutz_> Plumblum: sudo apt-get purge vsftpd
[13:11] <Plumblum> ah
[13:11] <tehnef> Plumblum: when you've seen how some people "ask" for help, not to mention the same problem again and again...sometimes the helpers can be testy
[13:11] <Sidewinder1> A-OK, so far; but it's early yet,.
[13:11] <Plumblum> tehnef, i totally agree :)
[13:11] <tehnef> Plumblum: 'apt-get purge vsftpd' will get rid of it
[13:14] <JimmyNeutron> I installed Ubuntu Server and every time I log in, I get a motd showing my CPU load, system memory, # of users logged in, IP address, etc...  How is this motd file being generated everytime I log in?  I looked inside my .bashrc file but didn't see anything obvious.
[13:15] <sebersole> anyone know whether the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Oracle are still accurate?
[13:15] <sebersole> its very recent, but have had no luck the past few days
[13:17] <Plumblum> huh
[13:17] <Plumblum> this was indeed easy
[13:17] <Plumblum> well im guess i can transfer thoose files now
[13:18] <Kasir> guys what to put in space used to preserve files across reboots field when making a bootable iso using UNetBootin ???
[13:19] <Plumblum> Kasir, i just assumed thats spaced you can use to as it says preserve files acress reboots
[13:19] <Plumblum> so i would put in as much space as i thought i would need
[13:21] <vaio> anyone using a VAIO laptop?
[13:21] <Kasir> @plumblum What is that space used for and how to calculate how much space I need?
[13:21] <|Slacker|> this is silly I can't just find the executable name of transmission in ubuntu 12.04
[13:22] <|Slacker|> just did a find and got nothing
[13:22] <Plumblum> Kasir, i honestly have no idea, im guessin files stored there would be if you were to install programs and such when you are booting from your usb key, so if you are going to just boot and play around, i would put 0 if you are going to boot play around and then install on the hdd i would still put 0 but if you are going to use it i would say 1GB or so depends on what you are going to do
[13:22] <Pici> |Slacker|: transmission-gtk
[13:23] <Plumblum> but i have noticed that the most programs (so far) are quite small
[13:23] <vaio> can anyone help with some problems with ubuntu in a vaio laptop?
[13:23] <Plumblum> so a couple of MB's would be enough
[13:23] <|Slacker|> Pici, THANKS
[13:23] <|Slacker|> oops
[13:23] <Pici> np
[13:24] <Plumblum> vaio, what problems on a vaio laptop ?, im a newb so i might not be able to help
[13:24] <Plumblum> i dont think i have ever faild to boot ubuntu though ^^
[13:24] <Plumblum> so theres still hope
[13:24] <|Slacker|> Pici, weird...it wasn`t installed in my system :p
[13:24] <vaio> well... just want to make lid actions work
[13:24] <vaio> they just don't
[13:24] <Plumblum> huh
[13:25] <Plumblum> have never experienced that or had any problems with it so :P
[13:25] <MatBoy> tehnef, thanks! Shall I connect the NFS servers to ISCSI storage direcly or store it "internally" ?
[13:25] <vaio> i've tried the gui programs... system settings, power options, g/dconf-editor... all seems fine, but lid actions do not work
[13:26] <Kasir> @Plumblum thanks mate that helped
[13:29] <Plumblum> tehnef, i got sftp working (yay) but i dont have write axcess to certain folders, permitrootlogin is set to yes, but i cant login as the user root from filezilla, should i figure out a way to do that or should i give my user the appropriate permissions for the folders im going to use ?
[13:29] <Plumblum> im thinking of /var/www
[13:29] <beta990> hi! I have a technical question. I want to make a new Ubuntu Server setup with two disk in raid 1. Now I want to use an USB-stick for the bootloader. So there is no bootloader installed on the HDD. Is this possible?
[13:29] <vaio> i am talking about the option that suspends the laptop when you close the lid , Plumblum
[13:30] <Plumblum> vaio, yep i got that, since im not sure how the computer "feels" how the lid is closed, and you said you have set everything as you wanted it
[13:30] <Plumblum> when*
[13:30] <llutz_> Plumblum: chown -R user:www-data /var/www     don't allow root to ssh (which shouldnt work on *buntu by default)
[13:31] <llutz_> Plumblum: "user" = you
[13:31] <Plumblum> llutz, thx, i got that user = me :P
[13:31] <llutz_> just to be sure...
[13:32] <danny> is there a place i can find the kde icon theme i love it but i like the ui in traditional ubuntu
[13:32] <Plumblum> llutz, always appriciated :) but thats not what i was going to ask, when necessary i use sudo, to execute cmds wich my user dont have perms for
[13:32] <vaio> Yes, and it doesn't work... it used to work with old versions of ubuntu... which i have to admitt, were a helluvalot better than 12.04...
[13:32] <Plumblum> is that like enabling root
[13:32] <Plumblum> i dont get the difference, since i dont login as root just as my user
[13:32] <slowe> Hello all, anyone run into an issue installing 12.04 LTS on a server using an LSI Logic SAS1068E RAID controller? It installs fine, but won't boot--reports "no boot device" found.
[13:33] <auronandace> Plumblum: sudo is the right way to do it
[13:33] <llutz_> Plumblum: " permitrootlogin is
[13:33] <Plumblum> auronandace, yes i have been told so, but is there really a difference between logging in as root and doing sudo ? thats what im trying to find out
[13:33] <llutz_> oops, ".. set to yes"   thats what i was referencing. it should be "no" or forced-commands-only
[13:34] <Plumblum> llutz, can i disable that and still use sudo ?
[13:34] <llutz_> Plumblum: and yes, sudo is fine
[13:34] <llutz_> Plumblum: ssh has nothing to do with sudo, so yes
[13:34] <vaio> any ideas? anyone?
[13:34] <auronandace> Plumblum: logging in as root would use the settings of root, believe me, you don't want everything running with root settings
[13:35] <Plumblum> well i guess i have to take your word on it :)
[13:35] <vaio> any linux experts around? :lol:
[13:35] <auronandace> Plumblum: using sudo uses your user's settings with root's permissions
[13:37] <llutz_> Plumblum: PermitRootLogin  just controls ssh-access for root (which would need an enabled root-account). it has no sideeffects on your normal user or sudo
[13:37] <Plumblum> llutz, that line you wrote above, shouldnt i give my user -w ? since i think i got -r already :) ?
[13:38] <llutz_> Plumblum: +w you mean? the dir should be 755 already, so no
[13:38] <Plumblum> llutz, yes i see that now, and the line as already been changed ^^
[13:40] <ix_> do you have any idea how can I test the native pdf in firefox 15 beta? I'm using it right now
[13:40] <vaio> anyone could tell me what network should i go to to get some help with ubuntu?
[13:40] <Pici> vaio: here, but you need to be patient.
[13:40] <Pici> !patience | vaio
[13:40] <Plumblum> llutz, isnt R read and W write ? i wasnt allowed to make a new dirr before but i am now, did i remove read with -R ?
[13:41] <llutz_> !permissions | Plumblum
[13:41] <llutz_> Plumblum: chown -R   is "recursive" not -read
[13:41] <slowe> If anyone has any experience/information trying to install 12.04 on a server with an LSI Logic SAS1068E RAID card, I'd appreciate it. Installs fine, sees the RAID mirrors, but then fails to boot afterward with "no boot device found". Any suggestions?
[13:41] <vaio> ubottu, i came here because all the googling in two days only turned gibberish... and believe me, whatever was posted as "working", i have tried... but nothing changed
[13:41] <Plumblum> llutz, yep thats where im looking and thats why i wrote what i did
[13:41] <blubfoo> Hi, please don't yell at me because I don't want to do what I have to do. I have to install xinetd on a ubuntu server 9.10. But 9.10 is outdated. Can someone please tell me how I can install it? Are there some "archive" repositories?
[13:41] <Plumblum> im gonna read it over in full this time
[13:42] <llutz_> Plumblum: chown and chmod are two different things, chmod -R  = recursive, chmod -r = remove-read-access (R uppercase != lowercase )
[13:42] <auronandace> vaio: have you described your problem here?
[13:43] <vaio> yes i have auronandace
[13:43] <vaio> : lid actions do not work on a vaio sz running ubuntu 12.04
[13:43] <auronandace> vaio: sorry, i missed it
[13:44] <silvio__> text
[13:44] <auronandace> vaio: hmm, not sure what to suggest sorry
[13:44] <vaio> i have tried for two days to find a workaround... it's just not happening
[13:44] <llutz_> Plumblum: /var/www should be owned by your user and the group "www-data". permissions should be 755 with exception for only those files/dirs the group "www-data" really needs to write to. www-data is the user/group the webserver runs as
[13:45] <Plumblum> llutz, oh that last part made it fall into place :)
[13:48] <jeypestylerz> Ubuntu 11.10 is the best version ever! =)
[13:48] <whitman> Anyone else installed the fonts-inconsolata package missing the 'Regular' type? I'm only able to selet from 'Italic', 'Medium', 'Bold' and 'Bold Medium'.
[13:49] <slowe> I'm having some issues with 12.04 and SAS1068E RAID controller...any suggestions? Ubuntu installs fine, but won't boot up afterward, reports "no boot device found".
[13:50] <vaio> slowe, you must have installed grub on the wrong path/device
[13:50] <compdoc> slowe, if you boot the cd or whatever, can it see the drives or controller?
[13:50] <slowe> vaio: Wouldn't GRUB go on /dev/sda1?
[13:50] <vaio> not neccessarily slowe
[13:51] <slowe> compdoc: Yes, it can see the RAID mirrors fine. Installs without any complaints, just won't boot afterward.
[13:51] <vaio> did you chose the "something else" in the installation menu?
[13:51] <slowe> vaio: Hmm...OK. On what other device should I consider installing GRUB, then?
[13:52] <vaio> there you choose the partition and select what you want to do with it, like format, etc... and then on the boot options you should select the path (drop down menu) and you should select the path "/"
[13:52] <vaio> so grub can be installed on the first sector of the disk
[13:53] <esolyt> does anyone know how can i stop smplayer from exiting fullscren when the video ends?
[13:53] <slowe> vaio: The installer asked about installing GRUB into the MBR, to which I responded yes. Shouldn't that take care of it?
[13:53] <vaio> i suppose it should...
[13:53] <llutz_> esolyt: mplayer -idle
[13:54] <Shadow`> okay, i added some entries to iptables, restarted networking and all i get now "
[13:54] <vaio> are you logged into the system you want to rescue?
[13:54] <jeypestylerz> why is so hard to install any programm in Ubuntu? >.<
[13:54] <compdoc> slowe, what size is the volume?
[13:54] <Shadow`>  is "networking stop/waiting" but the added entries arent working :/
[13:54] <vaio> i mean, where are you speaking from now
[13:54] <slowe> vaio: No, it's in the data center and I'm in my office.
[13:55] <jeypestylerz> software center... I love u
[13:55] <jeypestylerz> xD
[13:55] <slowe> compdoc: The two RAID mirrors that are presented up to Linux are roughly 158GB in size (made up of a pair of 160GB drives).
[13:55] <vaio> i think it would be best if you had the computer close to you
[13:55] <slowe> vaio: Agreed, but sometimes that isn't possible. :-)
[13:55] <jeypestylerz> xD yeah
[13:55] <compdoc> slowe, so its not a size issue. are there any other drives installed that grub might have written to?
[13:57] <slowe> compdoc: The only drives the installer recognizes are the two RAID mirrors, both of which are identical. Booting into rescue mode from the installer CD and running "fdisk -l" shows that /dev/sda has partitions, but /dev/sdb does not. That leads me to believe that everything should have been written to the first RAID mirror.
[13:57] <jeypestylerz> I'm not a fucking noob.. I know C/C++ and "shell lenguaje" but I prefer to do everything easy (if it can be easy)
[13:57] <Shadow`> friggin ubuntu, always got crap like this, jesus
[13:57] <vaio> yeah, but it would be handy
[13:57] <jeypestylerz> It's logic
[13:57] <esolyt> llutz: no thats not exactly what i want. that basically freezes it. i cant seek or do anything. i have press stop and when i do smplayer instantly exits fullscren.
[13:57] <esolyt> smplayer is the one exiting fullscreen, the solution should be on the smplayer side
[13:58] <Shadow`> how on earth can "iptables -A INPUT <IP> -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT" MAKE THE WHOLE FUCKING SERVER UNREACHABLE
[13:58] <slowe> vaio: Agreed. Even if you just have some suggested commands that I can run to try to ascertain what's going on, that would be helpful (even though I can't run them "live" and report results).
[13:58] <Pici> !language | Shadow` jeypestylerz
[13:58] <Shadow`> oh go be a lil girl somewhere else, geesh
[13:58] <lotuspsychje_> dont be rude Shadow
[13:59] <BluesKaj> Shadow`, cursing and foul language doesn't make you a man either
[13:59] <Pici> Shadow`: If you don't want to abide by our channel rules then you don't have to use the channel.
[13:59] <Shadow`> if i cant vent even a little considering this shit distro keeps giving ridiculous problems without instantly getting corrected by little girls
[14:00] <compdoc> slowe, google says this:  was simply to add "rootdelay=90" to the kernel command in the Grub menu. It simply wasn't waiting long enough for the RAID controller to initialize.
[14:00] <jeypestylerz> deep web motherfuckers.... sssh don't be silly!
[14:01] <jeypestylerz> download Tor and explore the deep of the web
[14:01] <slowe> compdoc: I found the same solution, but haven't yet tested it--wanted to see if there was something else I was missing. I'll give that a try. Thanks.
[14:01] <jeypestylerz> mhuajajaja
[14:01] <vaio> slowe, wanna give a look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1594052
[14:02] <vaio> you could probably select all the commands you think will do the trick, write them down and give them a try???
[14:02] <slowe> vaio: I'll have a look at that thread, but I'm doubtful it's a GRUB issue, since it doesn't even seem to get to that point. (Certainly could be wrong, though--wouldn't be the first time!)
[14:03] <slowe> vaio: I'll jot down everything I try, will likely post a blog article once I find the solution. Thanks for your help.
[14:03] <slowe> vaio: Now I'm off to the data center to try some stuff.
[14:03] <vaio> i would normally reinstall grub. not much of a geek myself, but i believe reinstalling grub would do the trick
[14:03] <slowe> vaio: I'll give that a try.
[14:03] <vaio> reinstalling in the right path
[14:04] <sebersole> so found the problem with trying to follow instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Oracle  apt is looking for amd-64 arch, but the repo only defines i386
[14:04] <vaio> was that computer supposed to be a dual boot slowe?
[14:04] <sebersole> might be a good addition to that resource so that others dont spend days on it
[14:05] <BluesKaj> vaio, reinstall grub to / , if you have separate / and /home partitions
[14:06] <designbybeck> I have an offbrand Monitor, When I try to boot from Ubuntu or Xubuntu that monitor will show the keyboard human, but that is it, the jump drive is still loading stuff
[14:06] <vaio> blueskaj... perhaps you could help me with my problem :lol:
[14:06] <vaio> related to lid actions...
[14:06] <designbybeck> but if i plug it into the Dell it works
[14:07] <designbybeck> the monitor itself works, After on another computer I loaded Uubuntu, I plugged in the monitor and it displayed the screen
[14:07] <BluesKaj> vaio, ok , not an expert on laptop behaviours
[14:08] <designbybeck> might it have something to do with the NOMODESET?
[14:08] <designbybeck> Sould I try that?
[14:08] <sebersole> and unfortunately the help page system does not allow feedback/comments
[14:08] <BluesKaj> designbybeck, yes , that could be it
[14:08] <vaio> too bad... i must be in the wrong place :(
[14:09] <designbybeck> Ok I'll go give that a try BluesKaj thank you
[14:09] <vaio> no one has even tried so far...
[14:10] <vaio> i'll change server... get out of everybody's hair
[14:10] <vaio> cheers dudes... have a nice day y'all
[14:10] <BluesKaj> vaio, I have a laptop , but i don't concern myself with lid actions/functions . If I'm ging to close it I just shutdown first
[14:12] <remmy56> does anyone know how to install the latest version of eclipse(juno)?
[14:12] <jgcampbell300> hey ... is there a way to install ubuntu with a diffrent window manager than gnome ?
[14:13] <remmy56> can I update the repository somehow so it'll update?
[14:13] <lotuspsychje_> !info lubuntu-desktop | jgcampbell300
[14:15] <Vlan> hi there
[14:15] <Vlan> i'm getting some issues with VNC managing a 12.04 server
[14:15] <Vlan> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/54535346/graphic_artefacts.png
[14:16] <compdoc> Vlan, that url is no good
[14:16] <Vlan> the funny thing is that if i enter some VM inside this server i don't get those problems, only on the host machine
[14:16] <Vlan> damnit
[14:16] <lotuspsychje_> Vlan:can you describe whats wrong?
[14:16] <Vlan> just a sec
[14:17] <kernelPanik> salve a tutti
[14:17] <kernelPanik> una domanda
[14:17] <lotuspsychje_> !it | kernelPanik
[14:17] <Prometeu> Pershendetje Mire Se Ju Gjeta Te Gjithve :))
[14:18] <lotuspsychje_> !english | Prometeu
[14:18] <Prometeu> iralian
[14:18] <Prometeu> italian
[14:18] <lotuspsychje_> !it | Prometeu
[14:19] <Vlan> i don't think that's italian :)
[14:19] <Prometeu> Ok Bye
[14:19] <lotuspsychje_> Vlan: yeah i know, beats me what it was
[14:19] <Vlan> dropbox is being an ass today
[14:19] <Vlan> what the hell
[14:20] <lotuspsychje_> Vlan:mind the language mate, try imageshack
[14:20] <sin_tax> What is a good size for an ubuntu partition?  I am partitioning an SSD for dual boot...
[14:21] <lotuspsychje_> sin_tax:depens on your needs
[14:21] <sin_tax> lotuspsychje_, light use, I will have another HDD for storage
[14:21] <gyre007> anyone here uses vmbuilder for building KVM VMs on Ubuntu host ?
[14:21] <lotuspsychje_> sin_tax:how big is the ssd and what brand?
[14:21] <jardineworks> does anyone know how I can resolve this error...
[14:21] <compdoc> gyre007, I use virt-manager
[14:21] <jardineworks> ubuntu Received response from host 192.168.1.1 with invalid source port 32768 on interface 'eth0.0'
[14:21] <sin_tax> 256GB Samsung 830 series lotuspsychje_
[14:22] <jardineworks> it's driving me nutes
[14:22] <jardineworks> nuts*
[14:22] <gyre007> compdoc, can't script it...
[14:22] <lotuspsychje_> sin_tax:i hear good reviews on that one, the 2nd Os is win7?
[14:22] <jardineworks> and there is nothing that I am reading that tells you how to solve it
[14:22] <jardineworks> just people complaining about it
[14:22] <sin_tax> lotuspsychje_, yes
[14:23] <lotuspsychje_> sin_tax:i would defenatly use ubuntu only on it 64bit :p
[14:23] <lotuspsychje_> sin_tax:but in your case you could split 50-50 maybe?
[14:23] <sin_tax> I'll give that a shot
[14:23] <lotuspsychje_> sin_tax:what holds you to use ubuntu only?
[14:24] <cadaverys> Hi
[14:24] <sin_tax> lotuspsychje_, .NET development, Adobe Creative Suite, Adobe Lightroom, gaming
[14:25] <lotuspsychje_> sin_tax: on an ssd you could run virtual machine win7 or wine
[14:25] <sin_tax> yes but I have a feeling that word work well save for gaming lotuspsychje_
[14:26] <lotuspsychje_> !info playonlinux | sin_tax
[14:26] <Jotek> Hello everybody! Which system is faster? Xubuntu or Lubuntu?
[14:26] <WeeJay> #sadpacket good morning
[14:26] <lotuspsychje_> Jotek:lubuntu is more lightweight
[14:27] <designbybeck> Jotek:  I've just played with both and I'd recommend Xubuntu
[14:27] <lotuspsychje_> Jotek:but there are even more lightweighter systems then lubuntu
[14:27] <Jotek> lotuspsychje_: i noticed that xubuntu is litle more faster
[14:27] <designbybeck> but yes, like lotuspsychje_ said Jotek Lubuntu is lighter, but I didn't seem much difference overall on speed
[14:27] <Jotek> is this possible, guys, to xubuntu work better?7
[14:27] <lotuspsychje_> jotek:all depends on the system of course
[14:28] <compdoc> gyre007, what are you doing with the script?
[14:29] <lotuspsychje_> Jotek:it all depends on system and your needs mate
[14:29] <cam-sex30> c2c?
[14:29] <Vlan> compdoc:  http://imageshack.us/f/855/artefacts.png/
[14:29] <gyre007> compdoc, uif I want to provision 10 VMs without any supervision and go for a coffee :)
[14:29] <Jotek> lotuspsychje_: i am running on pc (x86) and just want a fast system
[14:30] <mneptok> Jotek: "better" is a subjective thing. both Xubuntu and Lubuntu have Live disc images. try both.
[14:30] <compdoc> Vlan, what vnc server and what client
[14:30] <Vlan> compdoc: server: winXP, host 12.04
[14:31] <Vlan> Ultra VNC viewer
[14:31] <Vlan> if i enter VM hosts there are no those issues
[14:31] <jano_> can somebody tell me why computer doesnt start to OS after chosen the value in GRUB menu? could this be reported in logs??
[14:32] <Vlan> even tho the install and the settings were the same
[14:32] <lotuspsychje_> Jotek:like mneptok says, the fastest one for your system wins
[14:32] <compdoc> gyre007, using virt-manager, you can set up the vm as you like it, then using virsh export the config to an easy to edit xml file. once you have the file you can create new vmc all you want. just need to manage the names and mac addresses
[14:32] <compdoc> *vm's
[14:32] <Jotek> lotuspsychje_: so I have to try both of them again :P thanks
[14:33] <lotuspsychje_> jano_:if you got dualboot with win7, you might wanna try sudo update grub
[14:33] <lotuspsychje_> Jotek:its hard to say from here wich one will run smoother for your system and needs
[14:34] <jano_> lotuspsychje_, I tried sudo update grub, but it didnt help, only win7 starts...
[14:34] <gyre007> via vmbuilder I dont have to deal with MAC addresses...
[14:34] <Vlan> compdoc: i've been told that i have to disable some graphic settings, but i don't understand why it's working just fine inside VM machines of that server
[14:34] <jano_> lotuspsychje_, I ve chosen grub installed on usb key
[14:34] <gyre007> at least up until now I didnt have to...
[14:34] <gyre007> not sure how to export stuff to XML or whatever you're saying but it sure sounds cool
[14:34] <jano_> lotuspsychje_, grub starts, but linux starts only sometimes, so I must restart it twice or so
[14:34] <lotuspsychje_> jano_:what happens when choosing ubuntu?
[14:35] <compdoc> Vlan, I use vnc4server on the host, and have used ultravnc or realvnc client without issues
[14:35] <jano_> lotuspsychje_, black screen with cursor blinking
[14:36] <lotuspsychje_> jano_:maybe its trying to boot something from the stick instead of the actual hd?
[14:36] <luftikuss> /var/log/dpkg.log shows the last row as: "2012-08-22 15:03:59 status not-installed linux-source-3.2.0 <none>," What does here mean »none«?
[14:36] <jano_> lotuspsychje_, it is /dev/sda1 value chosen, so I think it should accept sda1 with ubuntu
[14:37] <lotuspsychje_> jano_:maybe you could try to fix ubuntu with the livecd?
[14:37] <jano_> lotuspsychje_, thanks I ll try it
[14:37] <MoTec> What package(s) do I need to install on a base server load to access a file share on a windows box?
[14:38] <llutz_> MoTec: smbclient
[14:38] <MoTec> llutz_: thanks
[14:38] <luftikuss> !dualboot jano_
[14:38] <nightwalkerkg> Does Android have a irc chanell o freenode ?
[14:38] <llutz_> !alis | nightwalkerkg
[14:39] <luftikuss> !dualboot > jano_
[14:43] <Vlan> compdoc: now i'll try that
[14:45] <gyre007> compdoc, im looking into what you mentioned...
[14:46] <compdoc> gyre007, the virsh command is dumpxml
[14:49] <gyre007> let me see
[14:49] <gyre007> su basically...you dump the xml...and what do you next ?
[14:49] <mohanohi> hi..
[14:49] <gyre007> I mean if you are going to provision a new VM
[14:49] <mohanohi> is it possible to run a program imposing limited ram?
[14:50] <mohanohi> i mean to limit a program to use only 500mb of ram
[14:50] <compdoc> gyre007, edit the xml and see how its laid out. make changes and then create vms with it
[14:50] <gyre007> compdoc, but how :)
[14:51] <luftikuss> mohanohi: Nor exactly your target, but please get to know the NICE parameter.
[14:51] <gyre007> that's the question im asking....
[14:51] <compdoc> virsh create /tmp/foo_new.xml
[14:51] <gyre007> with vmbuilder I basically run it and it downloads all packages of the OS im building automatically from particular repo
[14:51] <gyre007> I see
[14:51] <mohanohi> luftikuss : ok.. i will try to learn that first :) thank you for the reply..
[14:52] <compdoc> gyre007, oh, you want to install the os each time?
[14:52] <gyre007> compdoc, and how do you handle the MAC address problem then ?
[14:52] <gyre007> compdoc, well...initially I wanted to...
[14:52] <gyre007> :)
[14:52] <compdoc> its easy to generate new macs
[14:52] <gyre007> but I guess there's an easier way to do this
[14:53] <compdoc> you'll face that problem no matter how you create a vm - two VMs cannot have the same mac
[14:53] <vaio> having some problems with laptop lid actions, vaio sz/ubuntu 12.04... any ideas, anyone?
[14:53] <gyre007> when I used vmbuilder it somehow randomizes it...
[14:53] <luftikuss> vaio: Get informed about pm-utils
[14:53] <compdoc> prolly so
[14:54] <mneptok> vaio: how much swap space do you have, and how much physical memory?
[14:54] <Vlan> compdoc: I got it: those VNC artefacts are due to some graphic settings enabled on the host. do you know how can i disable fancy graphic under 12.04?
[14:54] <vaio> luftikuss... why don't you just slag me off?
[14:54] <gyre007> so how does this work...you call virsh created template.xml and it generates new VM from where ?
[14:54] <compdoc> gyre007, creating a vm and installing the OS each time from scratch is going to take lots of time and cpu use
[14:54] <vaio> mneptok, 2GB
[14:54] <gyre007> im a virtualization N00B
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> guys, after a fresh intall, i can no longer login in ubuntu, it always fall back to the lightdm screen -- i'm in windows now -- hints & tips? grub or bios setting or so?
[14:55] <mneptok> vaio: 2GB for both?
[14:55] <compdoc> Vlan, try unity 2d
[14:55] <gyre007> compdoc, yeah I know...thats why im looking into what you are saying :)
[14:55] <luftikuss> vaio: '~$ dict 'slag off'; No definitions found for "slag off".'
[14:56] <vaio> 2 gb swap, 18GB physical... 2gb ram, 2.4GHz
[14:56] <Vlan> compdoc: did you have to do that with vnc4server or it does support 3D?
[14:56] <compdoc> gyre007, create one image with the OS, and clone it all you want. the xml file will define names and macs, so the image does what you want
[14:57] <compdoc> Vlan, I think its done with the xstartup file in the .vnc folder
[14:57] <mneptok> vaio: suspending a machine will almost certainly require >1.1*RAM. you have to flush RAM when suspending. also, suspend and hibernate support varies widely depending on how an OEM implemented it.
[14:57] <mohanohi> luftikuss : does nice command limits the usage of ram of the particular software?
[14:57] <gyre007> compdoc, now the question is how do I create an OS image...can I use virsh for that too ? I mean...now that I have one VM running...i should be able to generate image from that I guess...
[14:58] <luftikuss> mohanohi: Yes.
[14:58] <mneptok> vaio: IOW, 2GB swap for 2GB RAM may not be enough. and it may not work at all.
[14:58] <llutz_> mohanohi: no
[14:58] <compdoc> gyre007, the image is a file that can be copied if the vm is shutdown. but you can also clone the OS within the vm using clonezilla, or a program like that
[14:58] <vaio> mneptok, my RAM is 2GB... while flushing the RAM rings no bells to me...
[14:58] <mohanohi> llutz_: was wondering.. :(
[14:59] <compdoc> Vlan, I can show you my xstartup file
[14:59] <mneptok> mohanohi: the kernel can do memory allocation far better than us. :)
[14:59] <llutz_> mohanohi: "ulimit" might do what you need
[14:59] <W4sp> win 3
[14:59] <mohanohi> llutz_: i want to limit the amount of ram used for a particular software. Can you please tell?
[14:59] <vaio> i never new that they are as important
[14:59] <mohanohi> llutz_: oh..
[14:59] <mohanohi> llutz_: ok.. i will give a try
[15:00] <luftikuss> mohanohi: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nice_%28Unix%29
[15:00] <vaio> these options used to work on an ubuntu version installed within windows with wubi, on a 15GB piece of HD
[15:00] <mohanohi> mneptok: a particular software is eating all of my ram and making my ubuntu slow..
[15:00] <mneptok> vaio: it's the same on all OSes. when you suspend, power to the physical RAM is cut. the contents have to go somewhere or they get lost. it gets paged out to disk.
[15:00] <mneptok> !linuxatemyram
[15:00] <vaio> what do you suggest mneptok?
[15:01] <gyre007> compdoc, so it's the "tmpZ2yf6n.qcow2" file...
[15:01] <mneptok> grrr...
[15:01] <Tike> Hello
[15:01] <mohanohi> luftikuss: it only deals with cpu usage i think.. not on limiting ram..
[15:01] <mneptok> !ram | mohanohi
[15:01] <Tike> Is it posible to boot Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop via USB Flash Drive?
[15:01] <compdoc> gyre007, sounds like
[15:01] <mneptok> vaio: do you *need* suspend? is hibernate enough?
[15:01] <vaio> 18GB partition, 2GB swap, 2GB ram... isn't that enough for ubuntu to run properly?
[15:02] <luftikuss> mohanohi: You are right. I am sorry. My apologies.
[15:02] <gyre007> now I have to figure out how to randomize Mac address and what command to run to generate new vm using that image and the xml template
[15:02] <vaio> i cannot even think of "hibernation"... it is deactivated
[15:02] <mohanohi> luftikuss: np :)
[15:02] <mohanohi> mneptok: taking a look, thank you :)
[15:02] <vaio> i've had problems with it before, and never managed to fix it, so i've not tried since
[15:03] <Lorra> Hi everybody! I have a local website running on apache2 and I would like to type something like mysite in the address bar of my browser and get my site like if the actual url of the site would be http://localhost/candyshop I would like to type candyshop and get it. To do this I thought I could modify /etc/hosts, any suggestions on how I could do that?
[15:03] <vaio> also, hibernation is disabled in this system...
[15:03] <mneptok> vaio: again ... suspend requires a minimum swap of >1.1*RAM.
[15:03] <Jacruth> hi guys, why I can't remove a file as a sudo? It says it is readable only
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> guys & dolls, after a fresh intall, i can no longer login in ubuntu, it always fall back to the lightdm screen -- i'm in windows now -- hints & tips? grub or bios setting or so?
[15:03] <compdoc> Lorra, thats usualy done with a dns service on your lan
[15:03] <vaio> 1.1 or 11GB? because i already have 2GB
[15:04] <mneptok> MonkeyDust: create a new user from a TTY and see if that user can get to a GUI?
[15:04] <MonkeyDust> mneptok will try
[15:04] <mneptok> vaio: one-point-one multiplied by the amount of physical RAM
[15:05] <Lorra> compdoc, don't you get an idea on how I could do it without setting up a dns server?
[15:05] <Lorra> compdoc, *.*
[15:05] <vaio> oh... you mean i need at least 2.2 gb swap?
[15:05] <mneptok> vaio: yes. and even then it may not work at all, depending on Sony's implementation.
[15:06] <confused> why is it when I go to sleep or close my laptop, I always have to reboot to get back on line when use my computer again???
[15:06] <vaio> but it used to work without swap at all...
[15:06] <mneptok> vaio: it may require fiddling with pm-utils. it may only hibernate and not suspend.
[15:06] <compdoc> Lorra, some cable/dsl modems can let you define hosts, or if you set up your hosts file properly, that might work
[15:06] <mneptok> vaio: it worked in Linux with no swap?
[15:06] <vaio> yes. with the wubi version, installed inside windows
[15:07] <vaio> and it also used to work on a dedicated partition, without any swap whatsoever
[15:08] <vaio> close the lid, bang! suspended. open lid, resumed
[15:08] <mneptok> vaio: i have never heard of a true Linux install (not zombified Wubi stuff) not needing swap to suspend.
[15:09] <darkham> hi, i would upgrade mesa driver in 10.04 by the 7.7 to newest version with ATI R300 support
[15:09] <vaio> you're saying that if i increased swap to 3GB, it could work...
[15:09] <userFOO> win 46
[15:09] <darkham> can i do it someway?
[15:09] <mneptok> vaio: might.
[15:09] <llutz_> mneptok: suspend-to-ram (S3) needs no swap
[15:09] <mneptok> llutz_: is that in current 12.04 kernels and enabled?
[15:09]  * mneptok is lazy
[15:10] <llutz_> mneptok: idk, i don' use suspend
[15:10]  * mneptok throws a halo at llutz's groin
[15:11] <Lorra> compdoc, my modem-router doesn't allow setting host, how could the per-machine hosts file should be set, do you have any idea?
[15:13] <compdoc> Lorra, Ive never done it that way, but wouldnt it be something like:  192.168.1.34  hostname?  (usng the real ip addy of course)
[15:13] <vaio> mneptok... if i tried to enable hibernation, would that work on my current configuration
[15:14] <Lorra> compdoc, but I would like to write virtualhost name and get to a specified url on the host, like that I would need to specifiy the path..
[15:14] <compdoc> Lorra, have an example?
[15:15] <designbybeck> I have 2 laptops both with Ubuntu 12.04
[15:15] <designbybeck> I go to shut down or restart both went back to the login screen
[15:15] <designbybeck> on the login screen I tried again to restart or shut down and it didn't do anything?
[15:15] <designbybeck> has anyone else ran into this
[15:15] <luftikuss> /var/log/dpkg.log shows the last row as: "2012-08-22 15:03:59 status not-installed linux-source-3.2.0 <none>," What does here mean »none«?
[15:16] <dormito> How would I recreate the database for a openLDAP install?
[15:16] <Jacruth> hi guys, why I can't remove a file as a sudo? It says it is readable only
[15:17] <llutz_> Jacruth: does it say the file is readonly or the filesystem?
[15:17] <mohanohi> llutz_: are you sure ulimit still working?
[15:18] <BlackPanx> i have a question
[15:18] <compdoc> uh oh
[15:19] <jano_> people have you seen the funny sentence? write into command line: linux [enter] and it says Linux is not installed :D I liked it very much...
[15:19] <BlackPanx> lucid ubuntu kernel is same as squeeze/sid right ?
[15:19]  * compdoc uninstalls jano_
[15:19] <llutz_> mohanohi: i supposed its working, haven't tested yet
[15:20] <BlackPanx> i mean i have few servers on lucid and vserver patch exists for debian's squeeze kernel... can i update my ubuntu's kernel with kernel from that repository ? it's server edition LTS lucid
[15:20] <Jacruth> llutz, filesystem
[15:20] <darkham> hi, help with mesa drivers and ubuntu 10.04
[15:21] <llutz_> Jacruth: so check why the fs is readonly
[15:21] <Jacruth> is there any common reason?
[15:21] <ganster> hi
[15:21] <compdoc> BlackPanx, the kernel is updated often with apt-get, but stops once the version has end-of-life. each new version has newer kernels as well
[15:21] <llutz_> Jacruth: what filesystem is it, your / or any mounted data-fs?
[15:21] <Lorra> compdoc, yes: I have a site which is accessible at "http://myhost/mysite" I would like it to be accessible at "http://mysite" which should come up when I lazily type "mysite" in the address bar of my browser (the host serving the website is on the LAN)
[15:22] <Jacruth> llutz, it is /
[15:22] <beakor> can anyone recommend an ubuntu-based distro that works well for netbook-tier hardware?
[15:22] <Lorra> compdoc, http://myhost/mysite are names which make sense only on the LAN
[15:22] <Jacruth> In act, llutz , I can't do "sudo touch /hi.txt"
[15:23] <bazhang> !lubuntu > beakor
[15:23] <llutz_> Jacruth: reboot, if it is still ro.... check it from a live-cd using fsck
[15:23] <compdoc> Lorra, sure. I think if you define the address and name in your hosts file, it should work
[15:23] <Jacruth> okay
[15:23] <Jacruth> thanks llutz
[15:23] <ganster> my ubuntu fails  to install updates what can i do
[15:23] <darkham> how can i upgrade the 7.7 mesa drivers on ubuntu 10.04?
[15:23] <darkham> plese help
[15:24] <ganster> my ubuntu fails  to install updates what can i do  need help
[15:24] <bazhang> !details | ganster
[15:25] <Wipster> hi, how can I disable the popup options window when I try to print?
[15:25] <otkrick> Hello, world !!!
[15:26] <darkham> how can i update mesa drivers on ubuntu 10.04?
[15:26] <mohanohi> llutz_: doing ulimit -m 20000 and running an app from the same terminal didn't honour the limit :(
[15:28] <n1timur> Hello
[15:31] <darkham> can't upgrade mesa 7.7.1 drivers on ubuntu 10.04?
[15:32] <llutz_> mohanohi: ulimit -v xxx
[15:33] <bekks> darkham: Have you checked packages.ubuntu.com to see which Ubuntu provides that version?
[15:33] <darkham> bekks, the latest on 10.04 repos are the 7.7.1 that now i'm using
[15:34] <darkham> bekks, i would upgrade it, it's a little bit old
[15:34] <bekks> darkham: Then 12.04 would be the best choice.
[15:35] <darkham> bekks, i used it, but i've random freezes
[15:36] <mohanohi> llutz_: ulimit -v 100000 giving this limit, it doesn't allow my program to load at all.. saying : kdenlive: error while loading shared libraries: libQtNetwork.so.4: failed to map segment from shared object: Cannot allocate memory
[15:36] <mohanohi> llutz_: sorry for my bad english ..
[15:38] <gyre007> compdoc, do you have any handy scripty tools to do that stuff ?
[15:38] <gyre007> I found something here http://www.linuxplayer.org/2011/06/create-new-kvm-guest-from-template
[15:39] <gyre007> but it doesnt seem to be handling apparmor stuff which is Ubuntu related...and thats for CentOS
[15:40] <compdoc> gyre007, I have several VMs running 24/7, but theyre servers and dont change
[15:40] <compdoc> I dont use scripts
[15:40] <gyre007> I see...ok
[15:40] <gyre007> btwe...now that I have the xml ready
[15:40] <gyre007> and the base image...ie OS image
[15:40] <llutz_> mohanohi: sorry, no idea
[15:41] <gyre007> now I should run something like virsh create ?
[15:41] <CharlieSu> Has anyone experienced this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/967410
[15:41] <compdoc> gyre007, yes, although doesnt the xml point to the image location?
[15:41] <ganster> bazhang, see the error  i was facing http://imagebin.org/225436
[15:42] <compdoc> you have to tell it what image to use
[15:42] <bekks> CharlieSu: Thats a quantal bug, which isnt covered in here, but in #ubuntu+1
[15:42] <BlackPanx> compdoc my question was more like: is debian's squeeze kernel compatible with ubuntu lucid ?
[15:42] <gyre007> compdoc, yes it does....
[15:42] <gyre007> shouldnt it ?
[15:42] <BlackPanx> for server platform of Lucid, not desktop.
[15:43] <compdoc> gyre007, I have scripted things before, and being an xml file means you can use the standard bash shell commands to search and replace test in the file
[15:43] <compdoc> test=text
[15:44] <bobvdv> Hi all
[15:44] <gyre007> Im confused now :) what should I replace...I have done the MAC and UUID bit...also replaced disk image to point it to a base image for a new VM
[15:44] <CharlieSu> bekks: quantal?
[15:44] <gyre007> do I have to replace anything else ?
[15:44] <mohanohi> llutz_: it worked :)
[15:44] <mohanohi> llutz_: thanx
[15:45] <compdoc> BlackPanx, I dont know - keep asking, or try asking in #linux
[15:45] <bobvdv> I'm getting a very strange error right after booting Ubuntu 12.04, it's just a dialog reporting 'System program problem detected'
[15:45] <CharlieSu> bekks: existing in two possible states?
[15:45] <llutz_> mohanohi: what did the trick?
[15:45] <bobvdv> There is no sign of anything not working correctly, but I'm still concerned about it
[15:45] <mohanohi> llutz_: upping the limit..
[15:45] <SmurfTheWeb> Hi all - is this the right place to ask for help on networking in ubuntu?
[15:46] <CharlieSu> bekks: nevermind..  i figured out what you mean..  It is happening in 12.04 too though..
[15:46] <compdoc> gyre007, the UUID shouldnt be changed unless you actaully change the drive's UUID using the running vm OS
[15:46] <llutz_> mohanohi: ah ok
[15:47] <gyre007> interesting
[15:47] <Mechdave> BlackPanx, Maybe ask in #debian or #linux
[15:47] <gyre007> ok
[15:47] <bobvdv> Is there a way I can detect what this dialog is related too?
[15:47] <gyre007> mm I tried to create it...but am getting error: invalid connection pointer in virStreamFree
[15:47] <GunArm> does anyone else pronounce mdadm "muh-dad-um"
[15:48] <compdoc> gyre007, since your VMs will be seperated by the network, they can use the same uuid for their drives. I dont think it wil conflict
[15:48] <CharlieSu> GunArm: M.D. Admin
[15:48] <Mechdave> bobvdv, try looking in /var/log/messages
[15:49] <GunArm> CharlieSu: ;) i started saying it as a joke and now it sounds natural m'dadm
[15:49] <GunArm> m'dadum
[15:52] <bobvdv> Mechdave, there is no such thing on my system
[15:52] <bobvdv> At least it's not in 'ls /var/log/
[15:52] <Mechdave> BlackPanx, I don't think it would be a good idea to start using a Debian kernel on a Ubuntu server, you might well have massive stability issues. Maybe it might be better to compile your own kernel to do the job
[15:53] <Mechdave> bobvdv, Hmmm... just a sec
[15:56] <bobvdv> Mechdave, there are a lot of other logs though
[15:56] <Mechdave> bobvdv, I think they changed the logging of the system... Maybe in syslog or something similar.
[15:56] <bobvdv> I'll check syslog
[15:57] <Mechdave> bobvdv, I have 10.04 still :)
[15:57] <sduvick> has anyone ever had an issue with Xrdp where the system locks when pressing "l
[15:57] <sduvick> *L
[15:58] <darkham> how can i upgrade mesa 7.7.1, the latest available in 10.04?
[15:58] <bobvdv> Mechdave, is there a good way to view logs other than $- more /var/log/syslog ?
[15:59] <klync_> bobvdv: less, tail, head, grep
[15:59] <Mechdave> bobvdv, you can use grep to scan the file for a string
[15:59] <bobvdv> klync_, just found the log file viewer in dash :)
[16:00] <Mechdave> bobvdv, This is a server that the problem is on?
[16:01] <bobvdv> no
[16:02] <bobvdv> it's on my desktop system
[16:02] <BlackPanx> Mechdave i think this seems like best idea. with specs of ubuntu.
[16:02] <bobvdv> Mechdave, there's a whole lot of stuff in syslog ...
[16:03] <uskerine> i did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:03] <Mechdave> BlackPanx, I was going to suggest a kernel build, but it is involved and don't expect to get it right the first time :)
[16:03] <uskerine> and i don't like the results, cna i rollback (precise)
[16:03] <uskerine> i see -3.2.0-23 and -3.2.0-29
[16:03] <uskerine> ?
[16:04] <BlackPanx> Mechdave i compiled a kernel before, dont worry :) works perfectly on my other server actually... Linux vs102 3.0.24-vs2.3.2.3-black
[16:04] <bobvdv> I'm gonna try: sudo rm /var/crash/*
[16:04] <BlackPanx> i just think repository thing would be better idea, but okay...
[16:04] <intermediate> i cant burn cds in my cd drive
[16:04] <Mechdave> bobvdv, if you grep the file it will return the matching line. eg: grep /var/log/syslog "System program problem detected"
[16:05] <Mechdave> BlackPanx, You should be good to go then :)
[16:05] <TJ-> bobvdv: You might find a recent crash dump in /var/crash/
[16:05] <Mechdave> intermediate, you need a cdr to burn cd's
[16:06] <BlackPanx> Mechdave i guess so. i'll try it out and see how it goes.
[16:06] <Mechdave> BlackPanx, good luck :)
[16:06] <gyre007> I have an image file, which I use as a template for my guests...there is one problem with it...well I cant figure out what to do about it...how do I change hostname when I create a new VM from the image ? I mean I know how I can change it when the VM is already running....
[16:06] <bobvdv> Mechdave, then I just get this: grep: System program problem detected: No such file or directory
[16:06] <gyre007> but I need to do that during startup...ie during boot
[16:06] <Mechdave> BlackPanx, just make sure you know exactly what the hardware in your server is and you should be fine
[16:06] <bobvdv> Mechdave, I'm using grep wrong?
[16:07] <intermediate> i have one  connected to my desktop and memerorex cd
[16:07] <bobvdv> Mechdave, had the arguments in wrong order
[16:07] <TJ-> bobvdv: do "grep -i  'problem detected' /var/log/syslog"
[16:07] <bobvdv> but grep does not do me any good, it finds nothing in the log
[16:08] <TJ-> bobvdv: You might find a recent crash dump in /var/crash/
[16:08] <BlackPanx> Mechdave i usually start from default ubuntu's kernel... which is fine, and just fill in the differences of the patch i am applying.
[16:08] <bobvdv> TJ-, gonna try that, but i just rm'd the folder so stupid of me
[16:08] <nitrohax> the track pad is so much nicer then a mouse
[16:08] <nitrohax> wrong room sorry
[16:09] <bobvdv> TJ-, I'm going to reboot now, problem occurs right after booting so I'll have a look in /var/crash after reboot
[16:09] <Mechdave> BlackPanx, you sound like you are much more advanced than I am. Last serious kernel I compiled was for RH 5.07 and that was because I had oddball hardware which wasn't supported then... Different story now :)
[16:10] <TJ-> Kernel compilation is straight-forward if you work from the Ubuntu git repos and patch on top; you can use the Ubuntu build system to package it too
[16:10] <intermediate> i burned cd in win xp thats how i got lubuntu os
[16:12] <Mechdave> intermediate, Have you seen this page --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CdDvd/Burning
[16:12] <Furry> If I install ubuntu over an existing install, but choose not to format the partition - will it preserve the contents of /home ?
[16:12] <intermediate> ok
[16:12] <bobvdv> TJ-, my rm /var/crash/* fixed it I guess
[16:12] <bobvdv> no more dialog this reboot
[16:13] <DJones> Furry: Assuming /home isn't on a seperate partition and is just included in the file system, it should preserve /home, but I'd recommend a backup just in case something went wrong
[16:13] <TJ-> bobvdv: That makes sense. crash dumps are written to /var/crash/ and then there's a system daemon that checks for new crashes and alerts the user/optionally submits the analysed dump to the bug tracker
[16:14] <Mechdave> Furry, I like to run /home on a separate partition so I can format the / partition without fear of any old files being left over
[16:14] <f00bar80> how to disable network-manager and make use of resolv.conf ??
[16:15] <Furry> Mechdave, yeah, I intend to do that once I fix my install
[16:15] <Furry> if I use the same username as the old install, will it preserve the files, DJones?
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> id use s live cd and gparted to make a home partition first. copy stuff to it. and reformat /
[16:17] <DJones> Furry: Its not something I've tried recently, it may depend on whether /home is encrypted etc, I'd do what Dr_Willis suggested and have a seperate home partition first
[16:18] <Furry> I can't - not enough free space on my drive to do so
[16:19] <Mechdave> Furry, how about a external drive?
[16:19] <TJ-> Furry: One way to protect your existing /home/$USER is to rename it to a username the installer won't be given.
[16:20] <Furry> and then rename it back?
[16:21] <TJ-> Furry, then later you can boot into recovery (which is root),  "rm -rf /home/$NEWUSER"  and "mv /home/$OLDUSER /home/$NEWUSER"
[16:21] <TJ-> Furry then reboot normally and your personal user home will be back
[16:21] <Furry> okay
[16:21] <Furry> thanks
[16:21] <Mechdave> Good thinking TJ- :)
[16:21] <intermediate> i think my cd drive  isjust old  I have a Ibm Think Centre computer
[16:21] <TJ-> Furry: But I'd still strongly recommend you back-up the old home !!FIRST!!
[16:22] <TJ-> Furry: Even if it is over the network to an Ubuntu One locker or similar
[16:22] <Furry> no space, no ext drives
[16:22] <Mechdave> intermediate, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[16:22] <digitalcrow> Hi can anybody help me ??
[16:22] <Furry> aside from a 16gb thumb drive
[16:23] <intermediate> 12.04
[16:23] <TJ-> Furry: how big is the home directory? do "du -sh /home/$USERNAME"
[16:23] <BluesKaj> digitalcrow, just ak your question
[16:23] <digitalcrow> Help me ! I have an nvidia gts250 and i have tearing without compiz !
[16:23] <Mechdave> digitalcrow, just ask your question and someone will help :)
[16:23] <digitalcrow> Help me ! I have an nvidia gts250 and i have tearing without compiz ! I have tearing in all distros/window managers but only when i dont use compiz
[16:24] <tiresias> hello, i have a problem connecting in ssh to a distant machine (the machine is under a freebox)
[16:24] <Mechdave> intermediate, it should work, unless your burner is unsupported
[16:24] <Furry> around 90gb, if memoery serves, but i'll run that
[16:25] <digitalcrow> Help me ! I have an nvidia gts250 and i have tearing without compiz ! I have tearing in all distros/window managers but only when i dont use compiz
[16:26] <Furry> TJ-, 66gb
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> enable that vsync setting in the nvidia settings tool
[16:26] <Mechdave> digitalcrow, maybe try in #compiz if no one can help here
[16:27] <intermediate> My drive doesn't notice when I put blank cds-r in it
[16:27] <digitalcrow> I dont like compiz i hate compiz
[16:27] <digitalcrow> I dont wanna use compiz
[16:27] <nini_> use unity 2d ;)
[16:27] <TJ-> Furry: Ahhh!
[16:27] <bekks> digitalcrow: You dont have to, you've got two clues already :)
[16:27] <digitalcrow> I'm using unity 2d but i have TEARING
[16:27] <BluesKaj> digitalcrow, have set up desktop effects without compiz running ?
[16:27] <Dr_Willis>  
[16:27] <digitalcrow> You are not listening
[16:28] <Furry> TJ-, so, I should use a different username for the installer, and then move the old home dir to the new one?
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> vsync setting to reduce tearing
[16:28] <digitalcrow> I dont want to use compiz but when i dont use it i have TEARING !
[16:28] <bekks> digitalcrow: Did you enable the vsync settings in the nvidia settings tool?
[16:28] <intermediate> My drive noticed cd-r that have burned
[16:28] <digitalcrow> Yes
[16:29] <digitalcrow> I've tested other nvidia graphics cards on other pcs and i have the same tearing
[16:29] <digitalcrow> Maybe its my screen ?
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> chck it again
[16:29] <bekks> digitalcrow: Which ubuntu do you have exactly, running which nvidia driver exactly, installed from where?
[16:29] <TJ-> Furry: That seems like the best plan, but make TRIPLE sure the installer isn't going to format / anyhow (check its summary VERY carefully before you give the final go-ahead)
[16:29] <Furry> okay, thanks
[16:30] <digitalcrow> bekks its doesn't matter ! I tried the two driver jockey/ubuntu suggests ! nothing
[16:30] <digitalcrow> i tried to install newest driver from XSWAT REPO and nothing
[16:30] <bekks> digitalcrow: Please answer my questions.
[16:30] <digitalcrow> i tried every newest driver
[16:30] <digitalcrow> Its nothing to do with it
[16:30] <bekks> digitalcrow: On which Ubuntu exactly?
[16:31] <digitalcrow> I have tearing on 1) ubuntu 2d, 2) Gnome shell 3) Mate 4) Cinammon 5) Xubuntu/xfce , 6) Lubuntu
[16:31] <bekks> digitalcrow: Ok, whats the output of lsb_release -sc then?
[16:31] <digitalcrow> lol
[16:31] <digitalcrow> ok guys
[16:31] <digitalcrow> i get it
[16:32] <digitalcrow> Must find the solution by my own.
[16:32] <intermediate> My drive noticed cds that have burned but doesn't notice blank cd
[16:32] <bekks> digitalcrow: If you are unwilling to answer basic questions, yes. Then you have to find the answer on your own.
[16:32] <Mechdave> digitalcrow, type in to a terminal lab_release -sc and tell us what it says
[16:32] <digitalcrow> On the section Monitor i have HorizSync 30.0 - 81.0
[16:33] <digitalcrow> and vertsync 56.0 - 61.0
[16:33] <Mechdave> digitalcrow, lab_release = lsb_release
[16:33] <digitalcrow> I guess something is wrong
[16:33] <bekks> digitalcrow: Answer our questions please.
[16:34] <digitalcrow> wait i'm gonna make some tests with the xorg , brb in a while
[16:34] <bekks> digitalcrow: No.
[16:36]  * Mechdave slams head against brick wall... some days it is frustrating when you can't help with a persons problem :)
[16:37] <louiemat_> w to install a driver for a scanner on pinguy os
[16:38] <bekks> !derivates| louiemat_
[16:38] <louiemat_> it is a epson pefection v30
[16:38] <bekks> !derivate
[16:38] <bekks> louiemat_: But pinguy os isnt supported in here.
[16:39] <alo21> Hi... how can I open a .manpages in a terminal?
[16:39] <louiemat_> sorry thought tis was the xchat for pinguy --- my bad
[16:39] <bekks> alo21: By typing "man sudo" for opening the man page for sudo.
[16:40] <theadmin> alo21: man man
[16:40] <Mechdave> alo21, type man in terminal and the command you want the manual on
[16:41] <wilee-nilee> louiemat, pinguy is just a variant of some OS, if you want a lot more support available I would run ubuntu or another well suppoerted.
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> supported*
[16:43] <DANYAL> how to install bash prompt (PS1) For All User
[16:44] <alo21> theadmin: Mechdave I have a file .manpages, how can open it without moving it in ~/.manpage?
[16:45] <theadmin> DANYAL: /etc/bash.bashrc or /etc/profile, however it's not suggested to do so.
[16:45] <llutz_> DANYAL: edit /etc/skel/.bashrc
[16:45] <llutz_> DANYAL: then _new_ users will get the changes
[16:45] <theadmin> That'd work too.
[16:46] <bekks> DANYAL: For existing users, you have to change the login shell using chsh.
[16:46] <DANYAL> and what is chmod in which user can only execute a file and do not read file
[16:46] <theadmin> bekks: Huh? PS1 = prompt...
[16:46] <llutz_> bekks: chsh for a prompt? never
[16:46] <theadmin> DANYAL: 1
[16:46] <bekks> theadmin: I know. But a prompt is displayed in a shell.
[16:46] <theadmin> bekks: Yes, but you don't need to change the shell to change a prompt.
[16:46] <bekks> And he wants a bash, as he said.
[16:47] <Mechdave> alo21, not sure I have ever come across that. Usually man pages also can be viewed in a text editor but it is a long time since I have played with man stuff :)
[16:47] <theadmin> DANYAL: (1 was about the chmod question, if that's not clear. 1 = exec, 2 = write, 4 = read. Sum the numbers up to get valid "combined" permissions)
[16:48] <nightwalkerkg> Hi everyone.
[16:48] <nightwalkerkg> I still can't run ne Flash. :/
[16:49] <nitrohax> nightwalkerkg, did you install restricted extras and java?
[16:49] <alo21> Mechdave: you right.. they can be seen via gedit (or other text editor)... but I want to see it via terminal too
[16:49] <nightwalkerkg> I have tried flashplugin-installer,Flash that i downloaded from Adobe website,Flash from the USC and restricted extras.
[16:49] <[4-tea-2]> Howdy, anybody volunteering to recommend a file indexer (like beagle, tracker) for large datasets (large = so large that even counting the number of files takes fscking long)? Decent support for media files (and metadata) would be great.
[16:49] <theadmin> nitrohax: You don't need Java for Flash... Neither do you need the restricted-extras.
[16:50] <nightwalkerkg> The flash doesn't work on Firefox or Chrome.
[16:51] <Mechdave> alo21, do you just want to see the contents of the file using the man pages type interface?
[16:51] <[4-tea-2]> nightwalkerkg: doesn't Chrome come with its own built-in Flash anyway?
[16:52] <[4-tea-2]> I should say "bundled" instead of "built-in".
[16:52] <refefer> question for everyone: in 12.04, where does /etc/resolv.conf symlink to?  my wonderful vpn software blew away the file
[16:52] <nightwalkerkg> [4-tea-2]: Yes it does,but it's not working. I get could not load plugin. And then i crashes.
[16:52] <theadmin> refefer: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Aug 11 12:22 /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[16:52] <alo21> Mechdave: I would see a manpage of a specifi program in a specific folder via terminal
[16:52] <[4-tea-2]> nightwalkerkg: have you tried turning it off and on again?
[16:53] <nightwalkerkg> There was a flash aid plugin.But they don't support it any more.
[16:53] <refefer> theadmin, thanks a bunch
[16:53] <nightwalkerkg> [4-tea-2]: Yes,like ten times.
[16:53] <alo21> Mechdave: For example I downloaded a manpage file, and I would see it via terminal
[16:54] <Mechdave> alo21, is this something similar to what you want? --> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/how-to-read-the-file-as-a-manpage-with-man-command-668448/
[16:54] <[4-tea-2]> nightwalkerkg: sounds fishy to me, are you one some weird architecture? (like everything except i386 and amd64)
[16:54] <nightwalkerkg> Nope,i am on i386.
[16:55] <GirlyGirl> nightwalkerkg: [4-tea-2] Chrome (not chromium) does come with flash and its the latest version unlike the regular plugin on other browsers as flash on linux is discontinued
[16:56] <[4-tea-2]> nightwalkerkg: you could always try to create a fresh user account, log in as that new user, and start Chrome from there to make sure it's not a problem with anything you've done as your current user.
[16:56] <nightwalkerkg> When i fist started to use Ubuntu it worked without a problem. But then i had to switch back to Windows and now i have Ubuntu again and the thing wont work. I tyed it on 11.10 and 12.04.
[16:56] <diverdude> is there any way to list all packages installed? Or especially list all packages installed using checkinstall?
[16:56] <theadmin> diverdude: Dunno about "checkinstall" but all packages = dpkg -l
[16:56] <alo21> Mechdave: yea...
[16:57] <alo21> Mechdave: I've tried... and it works
[16:57] <ErtanERBEK> Hi Everyone,
[16:57] <alo21> Mechdave: thank yoy very much
[16:58] <ErtanERBEK> can anybody enterate ATİ 12.6 86_64 Driver to Ubuntu Kernal 3.5
[16:58] <[4-tea-2]> Howdy, anybody volunteering to recommend a file indexer (like beagle, tracker) for an "above average" number of files?
[16:58] <theadmin> !find linux-image-generic
[16:58] <theadmin> Doh.
[16:59] <nightwalkerkg> Nope,it's not the user side.
[16:59] <[4-tea-2]> (In a couple of minutes I'll ask whether anybody cares to recommend *any* file indexer at all, heh.)
[16:59] <theadmin> ErtanERBEK: The latest supported kernel on Ubuntu is 3.2.something.
[16:59] <[4-tea-2]> nightwalkerkg: then I'm lost.
[16:59] <Mechdave> alo21, no worries.
[17:00] <luftikuss> /var/log/dpkg.log reports: "2012-08-22 15:03:59 status not-installed linux-source-3.2.0 <none>." What does mean here "<none>"?
[17:00] <bekks> [4-tea-2]: How many files do we talk about?
[17:00] <ErtanERBEK> theadmin: I know, Thank you for your help. But I ask diffrent
[17:01] <theadmin> ErtanERBEK: What you asked makes no real sense because "enterate" is not a word.
[17:01] <ErtanERBEK> sorry my bad englis, I mean integrated theadmin
[17:01] <nightwalkerkg> [4-tea-2]: Then think how lost i am. xD
[17:02] <nightwalkerkg> The thing is driving me nuts.
[17:02] <theadmin> ErtanERBEK: Well. This channel will not provide support for unofficial software. Kernel 3.5 isn't official, so, well...
[17:02] <theadmin> ErtanERBEK: "official" as in approved by Ubuntu and in Ubuntu's repos.
[17:02] <ErtanERBEK> theadmin: Do you know any way integrated ATI 12.6 to kernel 3.5
[17:02] <nightwalkerkg> Yesterday i hated Adobe really,really much. Now i hate them even more.
[17:03] <[4-tea-2]> bekks: I started a "find $path -type f|wc -l" about 20 minutes ago.
[17:03] <ErtanERBEK> theadmin: thank you for your asistance. Could you give me unofficial channal name
[17:03] <Rods_Tiger> How do I find out what apps I've installed (ever) on a recent Ubuntu installation? If I go to Software Centre, I get a gigantic list of stuff I didn't install and can't pronounce. Where's just the stuff I clicked on and pressed 'install' for?
[17:03] <nightwalkerkg> [4-tea-2]: Is there an alternativ for flash ?
[17:03] <nightwalkerkg> I have heard about gnash.
[17:04] <[4-tea-2]> bekks: 1.5 mio
[17:04] <theadmin> ErtanERBEK: There is none, if you're using unofficial software you're on your own
[17:04] <theadmin> Rods_Tiger: I don't think there is such a list, honestly.
[17:04] <Rods_Tiger> Gah!
[17:05] <theadmin> Rods_Tiger: I can see why that'd be nice though
[17:05] <[4-tea-2]> nightwalkerkg: for real world purposes (which often include video playback), probably not, at least not when I last tried.
[17:05] <Furry> TJ-, still therE?
[17:05] <Rods_Tiger> Yes, so that I can replicate all the whims and fancies I had, on other installations.
[17:05] <nightwalkerkg> [4-tea-2]: Then i am *****. xD
[17:06] <Rods_Tiger> you know how it is, when you go to install one or two things, you end up installing thirty, but forget which ones they were later.
[17:06] <theadmin> Rods_Tiger: Please check out Remastersys (allows to make a bootable backup of your system) and AptOnCD (saves your packages for you)
[17:06] <[4-tea-2]> nightwalkerkg: I hate to say that, but if you've messed up your system so much that Chrome's bundled Flash crashes, you might want to consider a fresh install.
[17:06] <Rods_Tiger> remastersys? thanks
[17:07] <nightwalkerkg> [4-tea-2]: The only problem is. This is a fresh install. xD
[17:07] <[4-tea-2]> nightwalkerkg: great, then you're not losing much.
[17:07] <glebihan> !clone | Rods_Tiger
[17:08] <[4-tea-2]> nightwalkerkg: just try google-chrome first this time, before you start to try seven different methods of installing flash. :)
[17:08] <Rods_Tiger> hmm - insanely complicated, but thanks.
[17:09] <theadmin> Rods_Tiger: Also note that this command will fail on 64-bit systems (that's what "multiarch" means)
[17:10] <nightwalkerkg> [4-tea-2]: I think i am going to cry. xD
[17:10] <Rods_Tiger> Ah, this is 64-bit
[17:10] <DANYAL> i posted
[17:10] <[4-tea-2]> theadmin: dpkg --get/set-selection isn't supported any longer?
[17:10] <p1l0t> My shockwave flash plugin keeps crashing on chromium (doesn't work on any of my browsers)
[17:10] <theadmin> [4-tea-2]: No, Aptitude. It doesn't work with multiarch.
[17:10] <DANYAL> i posted my bash prompt line in /etc/skel.bashrc but when i relogin the prompt is same :(
[17:11] <[4-tea-2]> DANYAL: the skeleton files are used when you set up a NEW user, I think.
[17:11] <bekks> DANYAL: Because the /etc/skel.bashrc is evaluated only for NEW users.
[17:11] <theadmin> DANYAL: Because it's /etc/skel/.bashrc, and because it only works for new users.
[17:11] <[4-tea-2]> DANYAL: you have a local .bashrc, try that.
[17:11] <Mechdave> DANYAL, I always put PS1 stuff in .bashrc
[17:12] <DANYAL> how to make for all users?
[17:12] <RyanWyan> How do I make a home network in Ubuntu? I want to be able to view my school work accessable on all my computers.
[17:13] <Mechdave> DANYAL, usually in /etc/profile for memory
[17:13] <Rods_Tiger> Software Centre nearly does it, with the 'installed' button, but it uselessly hides it all in toggle arrows, and then once you've gone through every single category and opened them all, you can't just select the whole page, or export the list or anything. Useless.
[17:14] <WITRchris> so is there a way to authenticate against AD in ubuntu /without/ using winbindd?
[17:14] <jano_> RyanWyan, do U use Ubuntu on all PCs?
[17:14] <Mechdave> RyanWyan, Try google searching ubuntu home network :)
[17:14] <RyanWyan> I've got Ubuntu, and Windows 7 :\
[17:15] <p1l0t> Does chromium keep an error log?
[17:15] <RyanWyan> pl0t yea
[17:15] <galacticboy> Hi how you people using ubuntu fresh install or upgrade?
[17:16] <[4-tea-2]> Rods_Tiger: back in the old days, when we had to walk 15 miles to school, uphill, both ways, we used dpkg --get-selection on the source machine and dpkg --set-selection on the target machine.
[17:16] <p1l0t> RyanWyan: Do you know where I could find that?
[17:16] <bekks> galacticboy: Whats your actual support question? :)
[17:16] <DucBlangis> So what's a good text based IRC client outside of irssi? I got tired of it
[17:16] <jano_> RyanWyan, Have U tried Filezilla server?
[17:16] <WITRchris> DucBlangis: irssi or bust
[17:16] <Rods_Tiger> I'll just write it all down, one by one, using a pencil.
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> DucBlangis  weechat
[17:16] <theadmin> DucBlangis: There's weechat
[17:16] <Rods_Tiger> cheers anyway, got to go now.
[17:17] <RyanWyan> No I have not XD
[17:17] <p1l0t> Where can I find the chromium error log?
[17:17] <RyanWyan> p1l0t No, I'm sorry, but I can find out for you.
[17:17] <p1l0t> RyanWyan: thanks :)
[17:17] <DucBlangis> how about sic
[17:17] <DucBlangis> ?
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> DucBlangis  why do ask if you know the answer?
[17:17] <nightwalkerkg> [4-tea-2]: I made some progres. Now i get : Could not load shockwave flash.
[17:18] <galacticboy> I have another pc with no internet connection synaptic is not installed in 12.04 how install apps offline?
[17:18] <f00bar80> how to disable network-manager and make use of resolv.conf ??
[17:18] <DucBlangis> What?
[17:18] <DucBlangis> I didn't know about weechat
[17:18] <DucBlangis> Wondering what people think of SIC
[17:18] <DucBlangis> nevermind I guess
[17:18] <DucBlangis> no biggie
[17:18] <RyanWyan> p1l0t You're welcome! I'm lookign right now :DD
[17:19] <|Anthony|> if i comment out the line in fstab for swap, will there be any complications besides having no swap?
[17:19] <theadmin> |Anthony|: None at all
[17:19] <MonkeyDust> |Anthony|  disable swap with swapoff -a
[17:19] <|Anthony|> very good
[17:19] <likewyise> Can anyone help me do a connection from my ubuntu to my ps3 I have been struggling these for the last 2 days I was on 11.10 and just installed 12.04 to test out if it was the problem of the version nothing works out, I have a crossover utp cable I killed ipv6 and disabled it forever but it still won't work: http://askubuntu.com/questions/178297/i-want-to-do-a-bridge-between-ubuntu-and-my-ps3
[17:19] <nightwalkerkg> It seems that this is a common problem.
[17:20] <|Anthony|> my swap is in a logical partition... silly me didn't use all the available disk space with the logical and now i need to remove it
[17:20] <RyanWyan> p1l0t http://www.chromium.org/for-testers/enable-logging
[17:20] <Guest54823> hi everyone, i'm trying to get my webcam working for skype, but there are some issues (continuous green flashes when camera turns on)
[17:21] <p1l0t> RyanWyan: Excellent thanks!
[17:21] <Guest54823> i've checked lsusb and my camera shows up, and it works with uvc according to a website
[17:21] <jano_> Guest54823, is it UVC standard caamera?
[17:21] <RyanWyan> p1l0t you're welcome, but use the Log viewer installed on Ubuntu instead if you're not using Windows :P
[17:21] <Guest54823> yep, i checked lsusb
[17:22] <the_dudez0r> Hello, I've been having this problem with my touchpad. Sometimes after turning my laptop on, once I get the gnome login screen, my touchpad isn't working, since I'm not knowledgeable enough I usually resort to simply restarting my laptop and bam! it works. What I'm wondering is, if there's any alternative way of getting your touchpad to work, maybe logging in in an another vtty and issuing some command there to restart the driver
[17:22] <jano_> Guest54823, I had the same issue - video OK but NO sound
[17:22] <Guest54823> it works with gstreamer-properties fine, but when i try to run cheese it makes a segmentation fault
[17:22] <Guest54823> my video is the one that's not okay though
[17:22] <galacticboy> How to backup installed apps on ubuntu? Will the backup files work for different version on ubuntu?
[17:23] <Guest54823> i can talk through the microphone on the webcam completely fine until i turn on video, everything starts flashing green and sound stops working
[17:23] <theadmin> galacticboy: Try aptoncd. And no, it won't work on different versions.
[17:24] <_DanN_> galacticboy: dpkg --get-selection ; dpkg --set-selection
[17:24] <_DanN_> Guest54823: what app are you using ?
[17:24] <Guest54823> app? i'm not sure, what command do i enter?
[17:24] <galacticboy> Why offline installation in linux is not good as windows?
[17:25] <MagePsycho> how to remove http authentication? http://londonholidaystudios.co.uk/
[17:25] <RyanWyan> Does anybody know of a program where I can make Ubuntu apps and designer the GUI all in one?
[17:25] <_DanN_> galacticboy: because you won't get the latest the greatest fixes/apps ?
[17:25] <Pici> MagePsycho: What does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[17:25] <theadmin> galacticboy: Because you can't compare two entirely different operating systems. Does not compute.
[17:26] <galacticboy> But i want linux not windows.
[17:26] <_DanN_> Guest54823: try another application if it causes the same crap on your system ...
[17:26] <theadmin> galacticboy: Then use linux.
[17:27] <likewyise> is there any other place to get help from ubuntu besides this channel or askubuntu?
[17:27] <theadmin> likewyise: There are the forums too
[17:27] <galacticboy> I have no internet all the time. I want a offline linux.
[17:27] <theadmin> likewyise: Canonical offers commercial support as well
[17:28] <Paradoxia> What do the arguments for the cd command do? There isn't an entry for the command in the manual and the only information provided in the command line is the usages (cd: usage: cd [-L|[-P [-e]]] [dir]), but no information on what the arguments do
[17:28] <Paradoxia> usage*
[17:28] <rypervenche> galacticboy: So update once, then stay offline.
[17:29] <galacticboy> I always do fresh install so i'm i suppose to download my apps for every new release of ubuntu?
[17:29] <Jordan_U> !offline | galacticboy
[17:29] <RyanWyan> Can I become chat admin? XD I've been apart of the Ubuntu community since 2004
[17:29] <RyanWyan> Can I become chat admin? XD I've been apart of the Ubuntu community since 2006*
[17:29] <Jordan_U> galacticboy: Yes, you will need to re-download all of your applications for every new Ubuntu release.
[17:30] <galacticboy> So there's no other way for me?
[17:32] <Jordan_U> galacticboy: You can stick to LTS releases, and then you'll only need to upgrade every 3 years or so.
[17:32] <RyanWyan> Can I become chat admin? XD I've been apart of the Ubuntu community since 2006*
[17:32] <Jordan_U> galacticboy: How are you downloading the new version of Ubuntu?
[17:33] <kingbeast_> I thought the lts's were supported for 5 years now?
[17:33] <nanomad_> Hello everyone
[17:33] <RyanWyan> nanomad hello!
[17:33] <Jordan_U> RyanWyan: There is a process for applying to be an op. I'm looking for the link now.
[17:33] <mathk_> can I install libstc 4.2 on precise?
[17:33] <RyanWyan> Jordan_U Alright, thanks!
[17:33] <galacticboy> New version i download through torrent.
[17:34] <mathk_> the oldest version of stdc++ I can found is 4.4
[17:34] <RyanWyan> What torrent client are you using, galacticboy?
[17:34] <galacticboy> Transmission.
[17:34] <RyanWyan> I see XD
[17:34] <Jordan_U> RyanWyan: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorRequirements
[17:34] <RyanWyan> Jordan_U Thank you very much!
[17:35] <Jordan_U> RyanWyan: You're welcome :)
[17:35] <Jordan_U> galacticboy: If you also download the DVD iso, you'll get all of the packages in Main.
[17:37] <galacticboy> I want astronomy packages does it have it? Don't you think it's a waste of time to download the same software every six months?
[17:38] <Jordan_U> galacticboy: It's not exactly the same, it's newer versions. And regardless of what I think of it, that's the way things are.
[17:38] <dupondje> Which filesystems can you make on raw disks (without partitions)?
[17:39] <Jordan_U> dupondje: All fileystems will work on "raw" disks, but I wouldn't recommend doing that with any filesystem. Why do you not want to have a partition table?
[17:39] <galacticboy> I lost your reply can you please reply me again?
[17:39] <no_gravity> Hello from Germany! Im trying to resurrect an old notebook for a friend. Its a sony vaio. The CD rom is broken and it has no option to boot from usb. Any idea how to get ubuntu on this thing?
[17:40] <Jordan_U> galacticboy: It's not exactly the same, it's newer versions. And regardless of what I think of it, that's the way things are.
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> galacticboy  there's stellarium
[17:40] <Jordan_U> no_gravity: What OS is currently on the notebook? Does this OS work at all?
[17:41] <Jordan_U> no_gravity: Can you take the hard drive out of the notebook and put it into another machine / enclosure?
[17:41] <Jotek> Im back now. Xubuntu is much beter than Lubuntu.
[17:41] <neohashi> hello.. got a problem with chromium under 12.04 LTS : youtube videos dosn't work (black rectangle) yet firefox still works..
[17:41] <dupondje> Jordan_U: because you then do not have problems with resizing the partition
[17:42] <no_gravity> Jordan_U: some insanely broken windows. it works but is unbelievable slow.
[17:42] <Jordan_U> dupondje: What problems?
[17:42] <skulltip> am i here
[17:42] <no_gravity> Jordan_U: yeah, i could take the hd out.
[17:42] <dupondje> Jordan_U: reboot .. :)
[17:42] <neohashi> have tried to purge chromium-browser and reinstall it which dosen't help
[17:42] <skulltip> did anyone else get a disconnect on irc?
[17:42] <Pici> skulltip: yes, but the network is undergoing some netsplits
[17:42] <neohashi> please help :)
[17:42] <Jordan_U> dupondje: I don't understand.
[17:42] <Pici> !netsplit
[17:42] <k1l> skulltip: it was a netsplit. nevermind
[17:43] <galacticboy> I'm really sorry i'm in mobile now. I lost all your replies to me due sudden rush in joining and leaving of users in this room.
[17:43] <jjkinas> I have AMD APU and also a add in graphics card (radeon hd 6670) , one monitor attached to the 6670 via dvi.  I am in ubuntu 12.04 right now , the problem I am having is I see a black screen when i switch to console (alt f1-f6)   I was having a problem with the ubuntu loading screen not showing video also , but I added nomodeset to the kernel line and that took care of that part of the problem.
[17:43] <Jordan_U> no_gravity: Probably easiest then to put the HD in another machine and install Ubuntu normally to the HD, then pop the HD back in. Make sure you've backed up all of your friends important data :)
[17:43] <ox3a> .
[17:44] <ki4ro_> .
[17:44] <Jordan_U> galacticboy: Try typing "/lastlog galacticboy". On most clients that will show all messages containing your nick.
[17:44] <no_gravity> Jordan_U: theres no important data on that machine. will ubuntu work when its installed on another machine?
[17:44] <tweezer> I can't get my new drive to boot with Ubuntu?
[17:45] <kingbeast> msg nickserv identify madison
[17:45] <dupondje> Jordan_U: If you have partitions, and you want to resize a disk, you needs to reboot (or at least umount it), with a partitionless disk, you can resize, and no need for reboot :)
[17:45] <Jordan_U> kingbeast: Change your password.
[17:45] <MonkeyDust> kingbeast  now better change you password
[17:45] <kingbeast> yeah I know
[17:45] <Pici> kingbeast: nickserv is down, please change your password when it comes back up
[17:45] <kingbeast> its back
[17:45] <nitrohax> kingbeast, nickserv is down right now it said
[17:46] <nitrohax> oh hey it's back horary
[17:46] <kingbeast> it just took the change
[17:46] <Jordan_U> no_gravity: Yes. All hardware detection is done at boot / runtime (with the exception of proprietary drivers, so just don't install any proprietary drivers until the HD is in the new box).
[17:46] <jjkinas> should i repost my question , maybe no one saw it because of netsplit
[17:47] <no_gravity> Jordan_U: ok, interesting. another problem might be that this computer does not have pae. when the cd was still working i tried putting in an ubuntu 12 cd and it refused to boot because the cpu does not have pae.
[17:47] <kingbeast> jjkinas, go ahead
[17:47] <jjkinas> I have AMD APU and also a add in graphics card (radeon hd 6670) , one monitor attached to the 6670 via dvi.  I am in ubuntu 12.04 right now , the problem I am having is I see a black screen when i switch to console (alt f1-f6)   I was having a problem with the ubuntu loading screen not showing video also , but I added nomodeset to the kernel line and that took care of that part of the problem.
[17:47] <W4sp> jjkinas: Did you check if getty processes are running on the pseudo-terminals? Do they spawn too fast and are the processes disabled?
[17:47] <tweezer> I've got a question...my new ssd disk don't boot Ubuntu....
[17:48] <galacticboy> Ok didn't work. Now please tell me, in those days where internet is in infancy how were linux packages installed?
[17:48] <Jordan_U> no_gravity: I think that Lubuntu does not require PAE, and will be a much better fit for such an old machine anyway. Let me confirm about LUbuntu not requiring PAE though.
[17:48] <wilee-nilee> tweezer, this your main HD, and is grub installed in its mbr?
[17:48] <jjkinas> W4sp: sorry I don't know how to check that
[17:48] <kingbeast> jjkinas, mine does the same on the load screen but everything else works fine so I haven't messed with it
[17:49] <no_gravity> Jordan_U: maybe debian 6 would be a good choice.
[17:49] <W4sp> Jordan_U: no_gravity: Lubuntu and Xubuntu are by default with non-PAE support.
[17:49] <kingbeast> jjkinas, give me a sec, I'll see what I can dig up.
[17:49] <tweezer> wilee-nilee: just packed it out and installed Ubuntu on it... but it don't boot automaticlly...
[17:49] <jjkinas> kingbeast I don't really care about the load sreen , just want to access the console altf1 and i get a black screen
[17:50] <galacticboy> Bye Take Care. :)
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> tweezer, Is it first in the bios to be read, if you have multiple HD's and did you load grub to its mbr, two questions here.
[17:50] <Jordan_U> jjkinas: Were you able to access the console before adding "nomodeset"?
[17:50] <W4sp> jjkinas: You can 'ps axuw | grep tty'. It shoud come up with some lines.
[17:50] <jjkinas> jordan_u   no I could not access console
[17:51] <jjkinas> w4sp: yes i got the lines , should i post to pastebin ?
[17:51] <Jordan_U> jjkinas: What happened when you tried to access the console before adding "nomodeset"? With nomodeset was X working normally?
[17:51] <phy1729> can I get resolv.conf info from DHCP and still have a static IP?
[17:51] <Jordan_U> jjkinas: *Without nomodeset was X working normally?
[17:51] <tweezer> wilee-nilee: Just one drive... and on the disk there's a partition 100MB big called EFI with grubx64.efi mounted...
[17:52] <Jordan_U> phy1729: Yes.
[17:52] <phy1729> how? I need nameserver and domain
[17:52] <W4sp> jjkinas: No, not needed. IT means the process is running and indeed there is an issue with the display.
[17:52] <jjkinas> jordan_U  Yes X is working normally with or without nomodeset,   I added it to try to get the console to show
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> tweezer, ah efi I would have removed all of that if possible, I'm not familiar with efi, others are though.
[17:53] <Jordan_U> phy1729: Simply configure DHCP with a static ip in nm-connection-editor.
[17:53] <jjkinas> Jordan_U  I can remove it , as the only thing it helped was showing the ubuntu load screen and that is not what I wanted to fix.
[17:53] <dekra4> hello to everybody
[17:53] <dekra4> !list
[17:53] <W4sp> jjkinas: (as you suspected already) I just wanted to ensure that the foundation is there before the graphics specialist jump up.
[17:53] <kingbeast> jjkinas,  you do have catalyst installed, right?
[17:54] <Jordan_U> jjkinas: I would recommend removing it. Kernel Mode Setting is a good thing to have (when it's working properly).
[17:54] <jjkinas> kingbeast: I installed the drivers through " additional drivers "
[17:54] <tweezer> wilee-nilee: It shows up in boot menu as ubuntu but it don't start...just says that no disk inserted...
[17:54] <jjkinas> kingbeast: it installed catalyst control center
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> tweezer, here is a wiki while you wait for confirmation or help. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting
[17:55] <kingbeast> jjkinas, ok just had to make sure first.
[17:55] <Jordan_U> tweezer: How did you install Ubuntu?
[17:55] <wilee-nilee> tweezer, That is about al I can do witha efi, hehe you would not want your mechanic doing brain surgery on you now would you. ;O)
[17:55] <tweezer> jordan_U: With my USB-stick....have installed it on 4 other computers... just changed the disk in this one...but it was a brand new disk...
[17:57] <Jordan_U> tweezer: When you say that you "just changed the disk" does that mean that you ran the installer on a different machine than the machine which currently has the drive?
[17:57] <jjkinas> The reason my setup is the way it is ,    In windows(for gaming) everything works fine and my primary add in card 6670 uses the AMD APU for "dual graphics mode"   Hybrid crossfire ,  :    now I don't need the dual graphics mode for linux , I just need the kernel to ignore the APU and only use my add in 6670 where my 1 monitor is attached.
[17:58] <eipi-1> good evening, in bootchart i found a process called 'gs' which according to google means ghostscipt and has to do with printing? Is this process necessary on boot time and does it have to run all the time?
[17:59] <tweezer> Jordan_U: No... it's a new computer with new disk.... :P
[17:59] <kingbeast> jjkinas, it looks like you are having better luck than most that are using that card.
[18:00] <jjkinas> kingbeast:     Yah , I have been searching with no luck,  I was thinking that maybe it was a kernel problem and if I had a more updated kernel the problem would be fixed.
[18:01] <blblbl> helloï·’
[18:01] <kingbeast> I wouldn't exactly say that.
[18:01] <nickhs> Howdy, I'm using network-manager and openvpn. However whenever I connect to my companies VPN I am no longer able to access the internet - only internal company resources. What am I doing wrong?
[18:02] <RamiAM> Hello
[18:02] <RamiAM> I need help plz can any 1 help me?
[18:02] <const_antine> hi, new to linux, how do i find a particular computer on a local network if its getting its assigned ip is randomly assigned?
[18:02] <Jordan_U> tweezer: Are you currently booted from the Ubuntu LiveUSB on this machine?
[18:02] <MoTec> RamiAM: !help
[18:02] <kingbeast> sorry jjkinas I can't find anything for it
[18:02] <tweezer> Jordan_U: No it
[18:02] <MoTec> !help RamiAM
[18:03] <MoTec> meh, I don't know how to do that, lol.
[18:03] <klync> nickhs: i can make one guess: check whether your vpn network and your lan share the same IP subnet (e.g. 192.168.x.x). my guess is that you have conflicting routes; if so, change your lan (unless you're able to change the vpn!) to use 10.x.x.x instead
[18:03] <tweezer> Jordan_U: No, it shows up as "ubuntu" when I manually choose boot drive.... it's running just fine... just that the boot loader don't start it...
[18:04] <Jordan_U> RamiAM: Please ask your question (using complete English sentences, spelled properly).
[18:04] <nickhs> klync: I unfortunately can't change the company LAN (and I don't believe that's the issue). Others in the office are able to connect just fine using Viscosity
[18:04] <W4sp> MoTec: YOu can do that by '!help | <nick>' Give it a try with RamiAM please.
[18:04] <jjkinas> kingbeast: thanks for trying !
[18:04] <Jordan_U> tweezer: So you are able to boot your installed Ubuntu system?
[18:04] <RamiAM> I have a laptop (compaq610).. and when I install linux on it it make a buzz sound at some times... any one know the reason?
[18:04] <const_antine> !help test
[18:04] <klync> nickhs: oh, so you're on a lan at work and trying to connect to the vpn through there? ... can your netadmin help?
[18:04] <const_antine> !help
[18:04] <Omarman> !help | omarman
[18:04] <kingbeast> jjkinas, np
[18:05] <MoTec> !help | RamiAM
[18:05] <Jordan_U> Everyone. please experiment with the bots in #ubuntu-bots only.
[18:05] <nickhs> klync: unfortunately not, the official line is get a mac :D
[18:05] <tweezer> Jordan_U: Yes, but it don't start auto...
[18:05] <const_antine> k
[18:05] <ganster> sorry am run ubuntu 12.04 having a problem with update manager  http://imagebin.org/225436
[18:05] <Jordan_U> tweezer: OK. Are you currently booted into Ubuntu?
[18:06] <tweezer> Jordan_U: Yes...
[18:07] <Jordan_U> tweezer: Please pastebin the output of "mount" and "find /boot/efi/".
[18:07] <ganster> sorry am run ubuntu 12.04 having a problem with update manager  http://imagebin.org/225436
[18:07] <maximilian_> hey, so, my computer doesn't have v4l1, how do i get this library?
[18:07] <const_antine> hi, new to linux, how do i find a particular computer on a local network if its getting its assigned ip is randomly assigned? do I have to set up a dns server?
[18:08] <Jordan_U> ganster: Try running "sudo apt-get update" in a terminal.
[18:08] <const_antine> could someone direct me to a reading material, at least?
[18:09] <Jordan_U> const_antine: Certain services from computers, like VNC, Samba, Printer Sharing, Music sharing etc, are automatically discoverable. What are you trying to accomplish specifically?
[18:10] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | tweezer
[18:10] <RamiAM> Any one had an idea about buzz sound on Linux ?
[18:10] <ganster> sorry am run ubuntu 12.04 having a problem with update manager  http://imagebin.org/225436
[18:10] <tweezer> j/dev/sda2 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[18:10] <tweezer> proc on /proc type proc (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[18:10] <tweezer> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev)
[18:10] <tweezer> none on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
[18:10] <tweezer> none on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
[18:10] <tweezer> none on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
[18:10] <tweezer> udev on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[18:10] <tweezer> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,noexec,nosuid,gid=5,mode=0620)
[18:10] <tweezer> tmpfs on /run type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,size=10%,mode=0755)
[18:10] <tweezer> none on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,size=5242880)
[18:10] <tweezer> none on /run/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev)
[18:10] <ganster> okay Jordan_U
[18:10] <tweezer> /dev/sda1 on /boot/efi type vfat (rw)
[18:11] <tweezer> gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/tweezer/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=tweezer)
[18:11] <tweezer> /dev/sdb1 on /media/FF47-3F62 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush,uhelper=udisks)
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> tweezer, STOP
[18:11] <kingbeast> tweezer pastebin
[18:11] <baizon> ganster: you added a ppa or something and dont have the gpg key
[18:11] <genii-around> !pastebin| tweezer
[18:11] <tweezer> sorry...  wrong button.
[18:11] <baizon> ganster: try to add the gpg key
[18:12] <const_antine> Jordan_U, my cups server is broken, i was looking into fixing it but got an idea about looking up hosts by name
[18:12] <wilee-nilee> ganster, Run in the terminal sudo apt-get update, and pastebin the output
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/  here is pastebin ganster
[18:14] <danub> hey. i need to turn on remote access via ssh shell so i can get a gui on my home server. how can i enable that? and what software can i use to connect ubuntu to ubuntu?
[18:15] <jrib> !ssh | danub
[18:15] <danub> yeah... i know what ssh is.... i have a shell to my system right now. i need to get a gui
[18:15] <MoTec> danub: you can run vnc over a ssh tunnel
[18:15] <W4sp> const_antine: You can use nmap for this.
[18:16] <jrib> danub: you want to use vnc?  Or you just want to install a gui environment to use locally on the server?
[18:16] <LucidGuy> Can someone explain to me why I get line 1: hello: command not found when I try to run mailq ..
[18:16] <danub> MoTec: but i need to get my user enabled for that according to what im reading online which means i have to tick things in menus, that i obviously cant do because i only have a shell
[18:16] <tweezer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1161296/
[18:17] <tweezer> did I do it right this time? xD
[18:17] <MoTec> danub: Well, if you don't have any GUI installed then you need to install ubuntu-desktop
[18:17] <genii-around> tweezer: Yes :-)
[18:17] <MoTec> danub: some kind of desktop at least.. check out this link:  http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gui-on-ubuntu-12-04-precise-server.html
[18:18] <Leo___> Hi, is there anyone who is knowledgable of ndiswrapper who can help me out?
[18:18] <baizon> Leo___: just ask your question ;)
[18:18] <DANYAL> when i post © sign in my ubuntu server im getting error
[18:18] <W4sp> const_antine: OK, as an exaple use 'nmap -sP 192.168.1.1/22'
[18:18] <DANYAL> it show only .
[18:18] <tweezer> Mouse got caught in the cord... :P
[18:19] <const_antine> w4sp: already in progress
[18:19] <Leo___> baizon ok :) after I finish installing ndiswrapper, it displays "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found." after I do "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[18:19] <danub> ok, let me clarify. i have open-ssh installed. i am currently ssh'd into the server (which has a gdm). what i need to check cant be checked via the terminal so i need to get a remote desktop from my linux laptop to my ubuntu server. but the guides i read online says i have to enable remote access by checking options in a menu. which i cant do because im not at home and only have a terminal. so.. what do i need to install to get a remote desktop going?
[18:19] <jrib> !vnc | danub
[18:20] <baizon> danub: or X Forwarding
[18:20] <tweezer> Jordan_U: Do you have any clues?
[18:20] <danub> jrib: how can i configure vnc with only a shell?
[18:20] <jrib> danub: by reading the page linked
[18:21] <Jordan_U> tweezer: I was waiting for you to give the pastebin link, I see it now but next time include my nick in your message so I don't miss it :)
[18:21] <danub> i installed vn4server, but there wasn't a conf file. it was /usr/bin/vnc4serverconfig which needs a display
[18:21] <danub> ok, i will load that page and see wha i can come up with
[18:22] <nome> hi... how can i turn off computer with ubuntu server like power off by terminal??? I used: halt, poweroff, shutdown -P, shutdown -h ... and os is turn off but fan on cpu is still working... so howto turn off computer by terminal?? in debian halt is working
[18:23] <Leo___> Anyone know the solution to "FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found."?  It would be much appreciated.
[18:24] <Jordan_U> tweezer: Now please pastebin the output of "find /boot/efi/".
[18:24] <tiglionabbit> I can't install vlc due to to some package conflicts.  No matter what I do it says it depends on two other packages that are "not going to be installed"
[18:24] <DANYAL> when i post © sign in my ubuntu server im getting error
[18:24] <tiglionabbit> what does this mean?  How can I track down the actual problem?
[18:25] <Jordan_U> nome: What version of Ubuntu? What version of Debian worked?
[18:25] <tweezer> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1161309/
[18:25] <Jordan_U> DANYAL: What do you mean by "post © sign" and what error messages are you seeing where?
[18:26] <nome> Jordan_U: ubuntu server 12.04 LTS x32 , debian testing, and squeeze working
[18:26] <DANYAL> Jordan_U On Main Screen  i mean home dir
[18:26] <DANYAL> in specials signs im getting error
[18:26] <Jordan_U> DANYAL: I still don't understand. Please try to use complete sentences.
[18:27] <DANYAL> I think ansi escape codes etc etc Jordan_U
[18:27] <Jordan_U> tweezer: Please pastebin the output of "sudo grub-install".
[18:28] <Jordan_U> DANYAL: I don't even no what context you're talking about. You need to be a *lot* more clear.
[18:28] <Jordan_U> s/no/know/
[18:28] <Leo___> Is there an ndiswrapper room or a room for beginner questions?
[18:29] <theadmin> DANYAL: You're not an English speaker, are you? Please reffer to your language-specific Ubuntu channel if you're not fluent.
[18:29] <theadmin> Leo___: There is #ubuntu-beginners or something, but probably best to just ask here
[18:29] <Leo___> theadmin I did but no one replied
[18:29] <DANYAL> theadmin Yes Im Urdu Speaker
[18:29] <theadmin> !urdu
[18:30] <DANYAL> !urdu
[18:30] <RyanWyann> Hello everybody, I am back!
[18:30] <theadmin> !in | DANYAL
[18:30]  * RyanWyann Dies
[18:30] <theadmin> RyanWyann: ?
[18:32] <tweezer> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1161319/
[18:33] <MoTec> Under $400 to double my virutal host's ram from 24 to 48gb.. Not too shabby!
[18:33] <MoTec> Meh, wrong channel.
[18:33] <boldfilter> Shabby bro?
[18:33] <CharlieSu> Hi all.  How can I package my own version of Samba after I compile from source?
[18:34] <Jordan_U> tweezer: Try rebooting and see if there is any change.
[18:34] <sin_tax> what's the easiest/best way to get dynamic DNS going for ubuntu server? I am using afraid.org free DNS if it makes a difference
[18:34] <tweezer> Jordan_U: OK.... brb
[18:34] <rypervenche> CharlieSu: checkinstall instead of make install
[18:34] <Jordan_U> tweezer: There probably won't be, but it's worth a test.
[18:34] <Leo___> I'm trying to find a solution online for the "FATAL: module ndiswrapper not found" error, but can't. Any suggestions?
[18:34] <bonno> hi..a question..(i am newbie)  .. i by mistake pressed ctrl+shift+F2 and a login screen poped up ... i was able to go back to my desktop by alt+F7  but anyway...what does ctrl+alt+f1 do exactly?why there is such thing..
[18:35] <const_antine> bonno its virtual terminal
[18:35] <const_antine> terminal 7 is visual
[18:35] <const_antine> terminal 1 is login
[18:35] <const_antine> there are a few more, i think
[18:36] <tweezer> Jordan_U: still have to push F12 to otherwise no bootable disk message again.
[18:36] <bonno> i can find a virtual terminal from inside the desktop though..is there any reason that exists too?
[18:36] <Leo___> Is anyone who joined recently knowledgable of ndiswrapper?
[18:36] <Jordan_U> tweezer: Try "sudo grub-install --removable" (and please pastebin the output).
[18:36] <nightwalkerkg>  NickServ Services are currently unavailable.
[18:36] <nightwalkerkg> Awesome.
[18:37] <const_antine> bonno, virtual terminal is legacy term
[18:37] <nightwalkerkg> Ok,does anyone know why when i transfer .apk files from ubuntu to my Android phone i can't see them.
[18:37] <MoTec> Hmm.. How little RAM can I get by for a server that's just going to be doing FTP and connecting to a SMB share?
[18:37] <const_antine> before windows, that's the concept that was used by OS to designate screens
[18:38] <MoTec> 512mb?
[18:38] <klync> MoTec: that's probably enough; how many concurrent users?
[18:38] <const_antine> bonno, you could have terminal access, the root could have one, your buddy across the net could be logged in and have another or two
[18:38] <MoTec> klync: maybe 2
[18:39] <klync> MoTec: yeah, 512 is plenty
[18:39] <const_antine> bonno does this make any sense?
[18:39] <bonno> sort of yeah
[18:40] <const_antine> to you the most immediate benefit is
[18:40] <Leo___> Still seeking help for ndiswrapper if anyone has time to help me
[18:40] <mike029> hi everyone, just wanted to ask here quickly before i started a thread, is there any type of issue going on recently with Nvidia ION and newer versions of ubuntu? it seems that since i updated to 12.04 a few months back my display randomly shuts off. for both hdmi and vga. i just decided to attack this project again and it's confusing me. just wondering if there was an update to nvidia drivers that could have triggered this that was 
[18:40] <mike029> it will boot then about 4 seconds later the display will just shut off
[18:41] <const_antine> if your x server crashes, or something else fails, you could switch to another terminal w/o turning off your machine, and look at the logs
[18:41] <rypervenche> bonno: If your screen freaks out, you can log into the terminal and fix it. Or if X isn't working, you can use the terminal.
[18:41] <mike029> is there a keyboard shortcut to close out x and open the terminal?
[18:41] <tweezer> Jordan_U: No errors.
[18:41] <mike029> i can see if that takes
[18:42] <const_antine> its more useful when the machine is physically unavailable, and there is no power button
[18:42] <maximilian> hi, how do i remove a file? i'm entering rm file:///usr/local/bin/skypelauncher and i get rm: cannot remove `file:///usr/local/bin/skypelauncher': No such file or directory but i know it's there
[18:42] <Jordan_U> tweezer: OK. Try rebooting.
[18:42] <const_antine> is it still called power button?
[18:42] <tweezer> Jordan_U: OK...
[18:42] <Leo___> why doesn't ndiswrapper come preinstalled anyways? It's fairly small
[18:42] <CharlieSu> rypervenche: checkinstall?
[18:42] <mike029> const_antine, this happens with 12.04, fresh install of 12.04 and with xbmcbuntu eden as well
[18:42] <CAaronL> Anyone have much experience with XBMC + Ubuntu?
[18:42] <W4sp> maximilian: The commadn would be 'rm /usr/local/bin/skypelauncher'
[18:43] <bonno> haha... yeah..ok.. now it makes sense
[18:43] <maximilian> with the quotes or without
[18:43] <const_antine> mike029: what was that?
[18:43] <rypervenche> CharlieSu: Yep. You remember when you ran "make install"?
[18:43] <W4sp> maximilian: It's without the quotes.
[18:43] <bonno> const_antine one last thing... does it work on all linux systems?
[18:43] <maximilian> k, it says it's write-protected though...
[18:43] <maximilian> what now?
[18:43] <CharlieSu> rypervenche: i've only run ./configure and make now...
[18:43] <mike029> the display shut off...so it leads me to believe something with the drivers
[18:44] <rypervenche> CharlieSu: Then run "sudo checkinstall"
[18:44] <const_antine> my mouse just died :(
[18:44] <rypervenche> bonno: It does.
[18:45] <Leo___> erg, maybe I shouldn't be using Ubuntu if I can't even figure out how to configure my wireless adapter.  I'll try again later.
[18:45] <CharlieSu> rypervenche: dude that worked.. thanks..  glad i asked
[18:45] <bonno> ok thanks pal...have a nice day/night
[18:45] <W4sp> maximilian: You need to sudo into the box to amnipulate files in /usr/local/bin. See also chmod
[18:46] <maximilian> hm
[18:46] <tweezer> Jordan_U: Still no change...
[18:46] <const_antine> mike029, who knows. mine is a laptop, with intel gpu
[18:46] <W4sp> maximilian: Why do you want to install the file? It is very unusual to do so the way you try.
[18:47] <Leo___> Maximilian  would you mind helping me when you are done?
[18:48] <ChibiPanda> Leo, what are you trying to configure? Which adapter?
[18:49] <krytarik> Leo___, have you already had a look at this guide?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[18:49] <Leo___> Chibipanda the netgear wg311v3,  I get "FATAL: module ndiswrapper not found" after "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[18:49] <maximilian> W4sp: for some reason my skype doesn't use the v4l library and i'm following a solution to it from the ubuntu community
[18:49] <Leo___> krytarik yes
[18:49] <ChibiPanda> Leo, do you have ndiswrapper installed? If not, you'd get that error.
[18:49] <ChibiPanda> try sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[18:49] <Leo___> ndiswrapper -l displays that my drivers are installed
[18:50] <Leo___> Yes I installed ndiswrapper, and apt-get isn't going to work because I'm not online
[18:50] <szal> hmmm.. was 12.04.1 released 6 days ago as planned, or was the release postponed?
[18:50] <trism> Leo___: is this 12.04? ndiswrapper isn't included with the kernel in 12.04 so you need to install ndiswrapper-dkms
[18:51] <Leo___> trism yes! How do I install ndiswrapper-dkms?
[18:51] <trism> Leo___: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-dkms; although if you only have wireless, you'll need to download the package from packages.ubuntu.com and install it manually
[18:52] <ChibiPanda> If you can plug into a wired connection (not sure if laptop or desktop) it may make life easier for you.
[18:52] <WeThePeople> is their a video player that has a audio EQ ?
[18:52] <Jordan_U> tweezer: What is the current output of "find /boot/efi/"?
[18:52] <amr_> i have ubuntu 12 unity how to install gnome 3 shell beside my unity?
[18:52] <theadmin> WeThePeople: VLC, for example.
[18:52] <theadmin> amr_: sudo apt-get install gnome-shell
[18:52] <W4sp> WeThePeople: You can use VLC.
[18:53] <ChibiPanda> VLC is one of the best media players I have ever used @.@
[18:53] <Leo___> trism when I tried installing ndiswrapper-dkms it says package dkms not installed
[18:53] <tweezer> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1161350/
[18:53] <amr_> theadmin: I got message it's already the newest one
[18:53] <amr_> ??
[18:53] <trism> Leo___: yes you'll need dkms too (you also need the two linux-headers packages, I wasn't sure if either of those were installed by default)
[18:54] <theadmin> amr_: Oh cool, then log out and choose "GNOME" in the session menu
[18:54] <Leo___> trism where do I download those? Are they deb files?
[18:54] <Moralz> can anyone help me with connecting to WEP on BT5R2 with Wicd? I'll paypal you money if need be. Im at my wits end with this
[18:54] <auronandace> !wep | Moralz
[18:54] <auronandace> !backtrack | Moralz
[18:55] <trism> Leo___: can you pastebin: dpkg -l 'linux-headers*'; and you can download all the packages from packages.ubuntu.com
[18:55] <ChibiPanda> Also, stupid question Leo, but did you reboot after installing ndiswrapper?
[18:56] <trism> Leo___: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/dkms for instance
[18:56] <Leo___> Chibipanda yes
[18:56] <Jordan_U> tweezer: OK. I'm not sure why it isn't working properly, but upgrading to grub 2.00 might help as UEFI support has generally improved. Unfortunately upgrading to grub 2.00 will require compiling it from source.
[18:56] <ChibiPanda> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Netgear_WG311_v3 Check this out, it might be of some help to you
[18:56] <amr_> theadmin: then how to have this stuff
[18:56] <amr_> theadmin: I have a new labtop
[18:57] <theadmin> amr_: Install your video drivers through Jockey (search for "Additional Drivers" in the Unity dash)
[18:57] <amr_> I did
[18:57] <amr_> theadmin: I installed it already
[18:57] <trism> ChibiPanda: once the ndiswrapper kernel module is installed sure, but that page isn't updated for 12.04
[18:57] <theadmin> amr_: Hm, then GNOME shell is supposed to work fine
[18:57] <ameoba> anyone having problems accessing security.ubuntu.com for updates or is it just something broken in my office?
[18:57] <amr_> theadmin: but it didn't, I don't have this top bar at all
[18:58] <theadmin> amr_: That's odd...
[18:58] <theadmin> amr_: Sorry, I'm not sure.
[18:58] <Leo___> trism I cannot pastebin as I'm not online but I should install all those?  Also how do I install dkms it isnt a deb file
[18:58] <Leo___> And Chibipanda yes I have seen that
[18:58] <amr_> theadmin: can you tell me other place to ask for support
[18:58] <theadmin> amr_: Try ubuntuforums.org and askubuntu.com
[18:58] <ChibiPanda> Leo, is there any way you can do a wired connection on that PC? Not sure if its a laptop or desktop, but if so, that would make your life a lot easier.
[18:59] <trism> Leo___: at the bottom of that page, the all link, goes to: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/all/dkms/download where you can download it
[18:59] <amr_> theadmin: thank you
[18:59] <Leo___> Trism thanks! And where do I find the Linux headers?
[19:00] <trism> Leo___: don't really need the pastebin I was just curious if the headers were already installed, what is: uname -a; I'll grab the correct links to the headers
[19:00] <Leo___> Chibipanda it's a desktop and there are no ports nearby
[19:01] <claudio_> ciao
[19:01] <claudio_> ciao
[19:01] <claudio_> ciao
[19:01] <claudio_> !list
[19:02] <genii-around> !it | claudio_
[19:02] <Leo___> Trism Linux Ubuntu 3.2.0-23-generic-par #36-Ubuntu SMP...
[19:02] <trism> Leo___: -pae?
[19:02] <Leo___> *pae
[19:02] <trism> Leo___: got it
[19:03] <trism> Leo___: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/linux-headers-3.2.0-23-generic-pae and http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/linux-headers-3.2.0-23
[19:03] <trism> Leo___: I believe those 4 packages should be enough for dkms to build the module
[19:05] <tweezer> Jordan_U: You were right! =) the 2.00 version did the trick... =)
[19:05] <Leo___> Trism ok, thanks!  I have to go for a bit but I'll be back soon with the results
[19:05] <Leo___> Trism thank you so much btw, I was about to give up
[19:05] <Jordan_U> tweezer: Great! I'm somewhat surprised that you were able to install grub 2.00 so quickly.
[19:05] <Joe2> is there a better theme for ubuntu? with clear top bar and stuff like that
[19:07] <Jarrydx26> Is there better themes for Banshee player , its looks kinda dull hey ?
[19:08] <Jordan_U> tweezer: Please file a bug report against grub2 in Ubuntu about this, and be sure to say that upgrading to grub 2.00 solved the problem.
[19:08] <trism> Leo___: no problem, good luck with the install
[19:08] <tweezer> Jordan_U: Been playing alot with Lubuntu lately...
[19:08] <Joe2> anyone know about themes
[19:10] <tweezer> Jordan_U: I already did before you said anything... =)
[19:10] <cristian_c> Hi
[19:10] <Jordan_U> tweezer: Great! Do you mind linking to the bug report so that I can subscribe to it?
[19:10] <sta7ic> will i screw myself if i remove mysql db? i also removed, test, etc...i assumed that if it was neeeded, it would have thrown an error, its funny, this is IRC chat, but mysql doesnt allow you to type, duh!
[19:11] <cristian_c> Do you know if webkitgtk supports the images management in webpages?
[19:11] <MoTec> Any 'gotchas' running 12.04 under HyperV?
[19:11] <cristian_c> I've checked the documentation of webkitgtk
[19:11] <chinmaya_n> Can we restrict the raspberry pi board to work like a arm7 processor rather than its default arm 11?
[19:11] <cristian_c> But I've not found anything
[19:11] <tweezer> Jordan_U: Sorry... I missed out on the rapport... :P
[19:12] <cristian_c> Where can I find this info?
[19:12] <Jarrydx26> My xchat keeps freezing , Then pops an error on port not configured properly . But chrome works fine , i dont know what the problem is there
[19:14] <arunkumar413> where to download the development version of ubuntu to test and debug
[19:15] <antilect> YES!
[19:15] <trism> arunkumar413: there are links in the /topic of #ubuntu+1
[19:15] <antilect> Finally it works.
[19:16] <cdoublejj> i install unbuntu as guest os but, vmware tools didn't install. how do i install vmware tools so i can stretch my screen?
[19:17] <matiosiem5> anybody knows which package should I have in order to eliminate an autorization error on facebook connection ? (I removed empathy, and this could be something about empathy?) Using gnome-shell 12.04
[19:17] <MoTec> cdoublejj: http://askubuntu.com/questions/131351/how-to-install-vmware-tools-into-ubuntu-12-04
[19:18] <sta7ic> will i screw myself if i remove mysql db? i also removed, test, etc...i assumed that if it was neeeded, it would have thrown an error
[19:18] <Jordan_U> dupondje: If you're putting the filesystem on the whole disk, how are you resizing the disk? Is this a virtual machine where you can dynamically increase the size of the "physical" disk?
[19:19] <bekks> sta7ic: Yes.
[19:19] <szal> hmmm.. was 12.04.1 released 6 days ago as planned, or was the release postponed?
[19:19] <sta7ic> bekks: yes i will screw myself, or yes the would throw an error if i tried
[19:19] <bekks> sta7ic: You will screw your DB.
[19:20] <Jordan_U> szal: "lsb_release -a" tells me that I'm using "Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS".
[19:20] <dupondje> Jordan_U: indeed a VM :) with a partition you can't resize, without you can live resize
[19:20] <trism> szal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule has 12.04.1 listed for the 23rd
[19:21] <sta7ic> bekks: how come? and how come they allow it, and why do they include samples like test, cant i remove those?
[19:22] <bekks> sta7ic: In that mysql, all information about users, grants, permissions, etc is stored.
[19:22] <cdoublejj> thank you
[19:22] <sin_tax> anyone know a link to a good guide to setting up a seedbox with apache and rutorrent etc?
[19:22] <sta7ic> bekks: and they just allow you to remove it
[19:22] <bekks> sta7ic: Take a look at the size of the test db, and see how small it is.
[19:22] <sta7ic> heh
[19:23] <szal> Jordan_U: thne you got that by updating, I guess
[19:23] <sta7ic> thanks bekks, so ill re-install mysql then to get it back?
[19:23] <bekks> sta7ic: You will lose all databases you created.
[19:23] <szal> Jordan_U, trism: I'm waiting for 12.04.1 install media
[19:23] <Jordan_U> dupondje: Then any filesystem will work on a "raw" disk (though not all support online resize). Just please don't try such a think with real hard drives or with virtual drives that might come into contact with Windows or other OSs which will think that the drive is "unformatted" and happlily trash the filesystem for you.
[19:23] <Tanis_de_Arcana> hola
[19:23] <Tanis_de_Arcana> necesito ayuda
[19:24] <const_antine> como esta?
[19:24] <szal> !es | Tanis_de_Arcana
[19:24] <luftikuss> /var/log/dpkg.log reports: "2012-08-22 15:03:59 status not-installed linux-source-3.2.0 <none>." What does mean here "<none>"?
[19:24] <sta7ic> bekks: i dont have any dbs' brand new install
[19:24] <trism> szal: the 23 is tomorrow, so I would check back then, usually releases.ubuntu.com/12.04 will redirect to the new version when it is out
[19:24] <Guest3596> hi
[19:24] <sta7ic> bekks: thanks, for the info, so im assuming ill have to reinstall mysql
[19:24] <Tanis_de_Arcana> Hi
[19:25] <bekks> luftikuss: Do you have an actual support question, or an underlying problem?
[19:25] <Jordan_U> dupondje: ext4 can online grow, but not online shrink.
[19:26] <dupondje> xfs and jfs also it seems :)
[19:27] <wsjunior> hello, how do i do something equivalent to chmod 777 /dev/dsp in this latest ubuntu?
[19:27] <Jarrydx26> Luftikus : its means there is no ubuntu on you're machine :)
[19:27] <bekks> wsjunior: "chmod 777 /dev/dsp" is a valid command.
[19:28] <wsjunior> bekks: there is no /dev/dsp on ubuntu anymore
[19:28] <wsjunior> bekks: how do i recreate it?
[19:28] <damon> wsjunior: what is your goal?
[19:29] <wsjunior> damon: im using flumotion to web streaming and i got video working by chmod 777 /dev/video0 now the audio has the same problem
[19:29] <damon> well, thats a problem
[19:29] <genii-around> wsjunior: What you're probably after is to add the user into groups video and plugdev
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> !info flumotion
[19:31] <wsjunior> genii-around: the user is already there
[19:32] <Tanis_de_Arcana> help me, I need to configure k400 Touch keyboard over ubuntu 11.10
[19:32] <f00bar80> anyboy can tell me how to disable network-manager and make use of resolv.conf
[19:32] <bekks> f00bar80: Just set up a DNS server in network-manager.
[19:34] <Tanis_de_Arcana> help me, I need to configure k400 Touch keyboard over ubuntu 11.10
[19:35] <Jordan_U> wsjunior: What is the output of "groups"?
[19:35] <zykotick9> wsjunior: FYI i'd guess your "chmod 777 /dev/video0" will change back after a restart...
[19:36] <Thomas_Zahreddin> hi, my wifi does not work anymore since 12 hours, in 12.04, with the install CD it works (so hardware and passphrase are ok) - i tried some hints form some forums (since hours now), but i can't get wifi working again. My initial error message was 'The system network service is not compatible with this version'. Network services work again
[19:36] <wsjunior> Jordan_U: audio dvalois adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[19:37] <Jordan_U> wsjunior: "video" isn't listed there.
[19:37] <shlafrock> hi; i i run ubuntu 12.04 x64; i installed classic desktop first; now i wanted to see gnome-shell ( gnome3  ) i have it installed, but when i choose GNOME in session login i'm still getting logged into same Old Gnome 2 session - any ideas ?
[19:37] <wsjunior> audio devices are referenced where?
[19:37] <wsjunior> Jordan_U: already solved my video problem
[19:37] <zykotick9> shlafrock: perhaps you're missing 3d support?
[19:37] <wsjunior> Jordan_U: question now is audio
[19:37] <shlafrock> yap i am
[19:37] <shlafrock> so it's needed right ?
[19:37] <Jordan_U> wsjunior: I would argue that you solved the problem the wrong way.
[19:38] <wsjunior> doesnt matter
[19:38] <wsjunior> got it working
[19:38] <akiva> Hello all
[19:38] <k1l> shlafrock: the gnome-shell needs 3d like unity
[19:38] <wsjunior> just would like to have audio as well
[19:38] <shlafrock> but i can run unity
[19:38] <zykotick9> wsjunior: working "for a while"
[19:38] <shlafrock> but not gnome-shell
[19:38] <k1l> shlafrock: gnome-classic is the unity2d from the gnome-shell
[19:39] <k1l> shlafrock: maybe you are running unity2d. this looks like unity3d.
[19:39] <shlafrock> yea maybe ...
[19:39] <shlafrock> ok i'll try to install 3d support then ..
[19:39] <akiva> Is there a way I can install passenger for nginx without having to re-run the passenger-install-nginx-module? I already installed the nginx-extras via apt-get and have all my PHP sites working. The wierd thing is it shows support for passenger was supposedly included in nginx=extras
[19:40] <knyn_> Is there a way to change my cursor colour in Ubuntu?
[19:40] <Insaner> 3
[19:40] <wsjunior> is there any way to get /dev/dsp back?
[19:41] <lauratika> monitor display odd lines, it was wroking good. what should i check?
[19:42] <zykotick9> knyn_: if you use Unity (3d) or compiz, probably not...
[19:42] <dutt> Hi
[19:42] <WeThePeople> hi
[19:43] <syJheng> hi
[19:43] <dutt> I'm using two displays with xinerame/twinview (not sure) so that I can drag windows between them, one big happy desktop. it's working fine. but...games think it's one big desktop too and try to take up both and things scale horribly.
[19:43] <dutt> two nvidia cards
[19:44] <dutt> how can i make games maximize to one of the screens?
[19:45] <zykotick9> dutt: no simple solution for that :(  hard one, is to configure your xorg.conf with NULL settings for one monitor, so when a specific resolution (that your game is running at) will auto-disable the 2nd monitor... i don't have the details handy, good luck.
[19:45] <dutt> ouch
[19:45] <dutt> that...sucks. thanks for the quick answer though.
[19:46] <MoTec> Well darn, it appears that Ubuntu isn't seeing my NIC in my Hyper-V machine..
[19:46] <MoTec> Wait a minute, of course it did.. I updated
[19:50] <MoTec> That was a bit less painfull than in previous versions of ubuntu
[19:51] <twiztid> hey all, this a good place to ask a nvidia dual display problem in ubuntu 12??? im in nvidia as well, but would like to know if the tearing problem that i am having is ubuntu side/ nvidia side, or just a bug... can anyone help? i can supply any and all info
[19:52] <zykotick9> twiztid: it's probably NOT ubuntu specific, i have had tearing on one of my dual-monitors (and i'm not on ubuntu).  with this card, i can't use vdpau for playback :(
[19:53] <zykotick9> s/had/bad/
[19:53] <ganster> okay Jordan_U  u save me
[19:53] <ganster> Jordan_U, are u there
[19:54] <twiztid> zykotick9: yeah i have tearing in only one of my two... ive tried alot of different setting but cant seem to work around it... =/ thx for the reply
[19:54] <Leo___> Worked!!!! Ndiswrapper up and running on 12.04!!
[19:57] <trism> Leo___: excellent!
[19:57] <wsjunior> alsa gives me something like: the playback device "hw:0" is already in use.
[19:57] <ozzloy> how can i tell if ntp is running?
[19:57] <ozzloy> i did ps -ef|grep ntp and got nothing
[19:57] <zykotick9> ozzloy: "ps aux | grep ntp"
[19:57] <ozzloy> but i'm pretty sure it's running on my computer
[19:57] <wsjunior> how do i know what exactly is using hw:0
[19:57] <Leo___> Trism :DDDDDDD thank you
[19:57] <ozzloy> because it's exactly in sync with my phone and other laptop
[19:57] <ozzloy> does ubuntu use something else for time?
[19:58] <designbybeck> Anyone get Media Keys to work with Spotify for Linux?  Pithos (App for Pandora.com) Works great in Ubuntu with Metakeys on my keyboard
[19:58] <ozzloy> is it not called ntp when it's running?
[19:58] <twiztid> zykotick9: also yeah, vdpau is not supported on xinerama mode... bleh
[19:58] <ozzloy> zykotick9, thanks for trying though
[19:58] <zykotick9> twiztid: technically if you are using nvidia, it's TwinView (nvidia's version of xinerama)...
[20:00] <j2daosh> whats up all. i need to get remote desktop working on my out of the box install of 12.04. i have openssh installed on it so i can get a remote terminal, but i cant eem to get vingare to connect
[20:00] <zykotick9> ozzloy: have you install ntpd?
[20:00] <j2daosh> i enabled remote desktop via gconftools-2, but it keeps saying refused.
[20:00] <jolly01> ciao
[20:00] <jolly01> !list
[20:00] <zykotick9> ozzloy: sorry perhaps it's ntpdate
[20:01] <grendal_prime> i have an ati video card..and the calalyst controller thing is all in stalled and everthang...
[20:01] <zykotick9> ozzloy: sorry again - it's just ntp
[20:01] <aszurom> is it possible to resize sda1 without booting to a livecd?
[20:01] <twiztid> zykotick9: right tight, lol my bad... but ya im on twin view.... found a potential workaround by enabling composite in xorg, restart. then open nvidia settings and uncheck force full gpu scaling and make sure the method is set to  aspect ratio scaled then save to x... ill get back to ya if it helps...
[20:01] <grendal_prime> so when the box comes up.  the screen is duplicated, and had the first screen over the second screen...(multiple monitors)   i have to set it for mirrored..then back to multiple monitors.  (every time i start the machine)
[20:02] <zykotick9> aszurom: probably not...
[20:02] <zykotick9> twiztid: i'd appreciate feedback if it works/help ;)
[20:03] <Joe2> which windows games work with ubuntu
[20:03] <zykotick9> !appdb | Joe2
[20:04] <Thomas_Zahreddin> http://pastebin.com/SGWN6kr6
[20:04] <j2daosh> no one knows?
[20:06] <zykotick9> j2daosh: ssh + xforwarding is a FAR better option then remote desktop, IMO.  Good luck (fyi, i think vinage needs to be started from the GUI to work...)
[20:07] <swinchen> is there any way to get fdisk during a server install?  I need to make sure my partitions are in an exact location...  and the standard curses installer doesn't seem to have that.
[20:07] <swinchen> I tried the "start a shell"  but there is no fdisk
[20:07] <j2daosh> ok, how can i do x forwarding? i need to view generated pictures on the server and cant do it from the command line so i am trying to get a desktop on it. but i dont know where to start going about this
[20:08] <hex20dec> stomass: Hey
[20:08] <zykotick9> j2daosh: assuming you are connecting from a gnu/linux box, "ssh -X SERVER" then just start the GUI application
[20:09] <j2daosh> and i just turn on forwarding in the sshd_config?
[20:09] <zykotick9> j2daosh: yup
[20:09] <j2daosh> then restart sshd and that should be all it takes?
[20:09] <zykotick9> j2daosh: yup
[20:09] <j2daosh> sweet, that is way easier
[20:10] <devish> i want to share my movie folder with in my local network, do i need to install samba
[20:11] <zykotick9> devish: do you have windows clients?  or only linux clients?
[20:11] <zykotick9> s/linux/gnu-linux/
[20:11] <devish> zykotick9: bith
[20:12] <devish> *both
[20:12] <zykotick9> devish: use samba for windows clients...
[20:12] <j2daosh> uh, ok so i did the xforwarding and stuff, ssh'd in... but i dont have a screen. how am i supposed to view thumbnails in my web directory?
[20:12] <zykotick9> j2daosh: open nautilus?  (might be tricky.. i forget the switch for nautilus, to only open the file browser sorry)
[20:13] <litropy> What is gir1?
[20:13] <wsjunior> Where is PulseAudio 'Enable network access to local sound devices' on Ubuntu Server?
[20:13] <litropy> Or, I should say, what is gir?
[20:13] <wsjunior> Where is PulseAudio 'Enable network access to local sound devices' on Ubuntu Desktop?
[20:13] <zykotick9> litropy: :) lol, i see that in updates from time to time, and always mistake it for girl
[20:14] <zykotick9> litropy: i have no clue what it actually is though...
[20:14] <litropy> zykotick9, hah, I noticed the 1 (one). But I didn't notice it was part of a version number until now.
[20:14] <savio> hey
[20:15] <twiztid> brb
[20:15] <trism> litropy: gobject-introspection? I guess it depends on the context
[20:16] <litropy> trism, zykotick9, you may have noticed it's not just one package, but many. I'm currently googling it.
[20:17] <litropy> trism, Oh ... I see what you're saying
[20:18] <litropy> GIRepository ...
[20:19] <deuropeirc> Hello all
[20:19] <deuropeirc> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid/partner Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_dists_lucid_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[20:19] <deuropeirc> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[20:19] <deuropeirc> how to make problems ?
[20:20] <deuropeirc> Help me please
[20:21] <savio> deuropeirc, what happened?
[20:21] <deuropeirc> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid/partner Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_dists_lucid_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[20:22] <deuropeirc>  You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[20:22] <MoTec> Hmm, how do I add a dns server now?  I set a static IP but am not getting name resolution.. I used to just add it to /etc/resolv.conf but apparently that's not how to do it now.
[20:23] <GunArm> what does it mean in shell scripts when there is like [ -f file]  or [ -r file]  ?
[20:23] <deuropeirc> savio ?
[20:23] <GunArm> is there a name for that so I can google about it?
[20:23] <savio> deuropeirc, what does sudo apt-get update says
[20:24] <deuropeirc> for java not working
[20:24] <deuropeirc> in terminal
[20:24] <deuropeirc> W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://archive.canonical.com/ lucid/partner Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.canonical.com_dists_lucid_partner_binary-i386_Packages)
[20:24] <deuropeirc> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[20:24] <savio> deuropeirc, explain your problem with some detail
[20:25] <litropy> Looks like gir has to do with GLib and GTK+. Today I learned: "C with GLib is an alternative to C++ with STL." Kinda baffling. Here and I was just learning C++, and now I've got yet another thing to learn.
[20:25] <oleksiyp> Hello all. Have a question. It seems 12.04.1 will be released soon. Is 3.5 kernel inside? Could not find correct answer in google. This seems affect stability on my Asus Zenbook UX32VD.
[20:25] <deuropeirc> E: Package sun-java6-jre has no installation candidate
[20:25] <savio> deuropeirc, tell us from start
[20:25] <deuropeirc> i am new on ubuntu
[20:25] <deuropeirc> i dont know all about this on ubuntu 10.04 lts
[20:26] <HAMKoot> i remember there is a !java factoid
[20:26] <savio> oleksiyp, i think not
[20:27] <trism> oleksiyp: as far as I am aware, we won't see the quantal kernel backport in the main repository until 12.04.2
[20:27] <savio> HAMKoot, are you talking about deuropeirc's problem
[20:28] <zykotick9> !java
[20:28] <lbl> litropy: what you learned today is wrong
[20:28] <oleksiyp> Oh, I see. We will have it in 12.10 in October and backport some time after, am I correct?
[20:29] <litropy> lbl, maybe "alternative" was too strong a word?
[20:30] <litropy> lbl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GObject#Comparisons_to_other_object_systems
[20:30] <lbl> litropy: even while "a bad alternative" would move it closer to the truth, the setup of the comparison is conceptually wrong.
[20:31] <litropy> lbl, thanks for your input; I feel better.
[20:31] <lbl> "C++ with STL" is wrong by itself, as the Standard Library is an intrinsic part of C++
[20:31] <trism> oleksiyp: looks like 12.04.2 is targeted currently around January, so yes, seems about right
[20:31] <lbl> (and that's already assuming the "STL" there refers to the Standard Library....)
[20:31] <zykotick9> oleksiyp: once a release is made, MOST software doesn't get version # increases (the kernel almost for sure)
[20:31] <savio> intrinsic ?
[20:31] <oleksiyp> Ok. Thank you.
[20:32] <lbl> savio: intrinsic. it's standardized in the same document as the C++ "core language"
[20:33] <lbl> "C with GLib" on the other hand does make sense - as a phrase. there's a C language, and glib is a library
[20:33] <litropy> lbl: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Template_Library
[20:34] <litropy> lbl: RE: (and that's already assuming the "STL" there refers to the Standard Library....)
[20:34] <lbl> litropy: thanks. I am aware of that.
[20:34] <litropy> lbl: Sentence seen p1 of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLib#Similar_projects
[20:36] <lbl> that's why I said "assuming". I know that the STL and the C++ Standard Library are different beasts. still, the latter is colloquial often referred to as "STL". and someone saying "C++ with STL" is probably ignorant enough to do that...
[20:36] <savio> lbl, C++ and stl are too different things no?
[20:37] <lbl> savio: read  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Template_Library
[20:37] <lbl> this is pretty accurate
[20:38] <lbl> on the other hand,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLib#Similar_projects seems to be written by someone who doesn't know C++
[20:38] <zykotick9> lbl: savio this doesn't seem ubuntu related anymore...
[20:39] <lbl> zykotick9: we'll come to the ubuntu related part of the discussion soon
[20:40] <diamonds_> where do I find the kernel commandline?
[20:40] <diamonds_> the thing to set boot options
[20:40] <diamonds_> for the life of me I can't figure where it is
[20:41] <diamonds_> I've tried googling all sorts of related terms
[20:41] <savio> lbl, i know that but they are different thing c++ doesn't depend upon STL
[20:41] <lbl> zykotick9: maybe you know. why does ubuntu use a C/glib based toolkit as foundation for the majority for the applications it distributes?
[20:41] <zykotick9> diamonds_: common grub settings in /etc/default/grub
[20:41] <knyn_> NickServ is back up!
[20:41] <diamonds_> zykotick9: really that's it? ok
[20:41] <zykotick9> lbl: no clue - i'm not a programmer at all...
[20:41] <lbl> savio: right. not on the stl, but on the Standard Library
[20:41] <zykotick9> diamonds_: "common"
[20:41] <diamonds_> I found that but thoruhgt it was the wrong one
[20:41] <HAMKoot> diamonds_, boot options are set in Grub, hold shift at boot to enter grub menu
[20:41] <zykotick9> diamonds_: use "sudo update-grub" after making any changes, to apply them.
[20:42] <twiztid> zykotick9: no joy, but one thing i want to try wont save... I want to save my nvidia settings to reflect "force full gpu scaling" disabled and scaling method to aspect ratio... but after reset i doesnt save any ideas?
[20:42] <Guest17523> again netsplit
[20:42] <diamonds_> zykotick9: I don't see "common"
[20:42] <TheThreshold> hello guys...i am trying to download something with deluge but the only seed tells me i am not connectable...how do i check that in 12.04?thanks
[20:42] <diamonds_> is it GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX ?
[20:42] <diamonds_> or default?
[20:43] <zykotick9> twiztid: it shouldn't matter (it should be automatic), but have you tried "gksudo nvidia-settings" to save?  (i'm guessing it's a different issue actually)
[20:43] <diamonds_> I disabled X from starting, I'm trying to remember how I did this
[20:43] <zykotick9> twiztid: i personally use GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT to apply to all linux versions (but i only have 1)
[20:44] <savio> lbl, what are you discussing? on what topic
[20:44] <twiztid> i was thinking it was a sudo issue but couldnt figure out how to save with permission, ill try that thx!
[20:44] <zykotick9> diamonds_: verify /etc/init.d/ script wasn't renamed...  that stops things from booting for sure ;)
[20:44] <zykotick9> diamonds_: lightdm or something...
[20:44] <lbl> savio: I just agreed to what you said.
[20:45] <diamonds_> zykotick9: no I desire this behavior
[20:45] <diamonds_> I just can't remember how I set it up :p
[20:46] <diamonds_> I have GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="" #is that it?
[20:46] <savio> lbl, you discussing something with litropy ?
[20:46] <zykotick9> diamonds_: i personally would disable startup scripts by renaming the file in /etc/init.d/ to foo.disabled.  what method did you use to disable it?  revers that ;)
[20:46] <savio> lbl, on what topic
[20:47] <lbl> savio: you said: <savio> lbl, i know that but they are different thing c++ doesn't depend upon STL,  and I said: <lbl> savio: right. not on the stl, but on the Standard Library
[20:47] <devis> how can  i access all share folders in my local lan , by nautilus its very easy but i use lxde and so i am searching for some other way
[20:48] <usr13> devis: So does lxde use thunar?
[20:48] <zykotick9> devis: manually mount things with fstab is one option (not an easy one either if you are new - but buttletproof)
[20:48] <usr13> devis: Bottom line is that you access them same way as others.
[20:48] <MoTec> How do I make a persistent map/mount to a smb share?
[20:49] <MoTec> oh wait.. i think i found it.
[20:49] <zykotick9> usr13: gnome, through nautilus does a lot of automounting not present in other DEs...
[20:49] <diamonds_> maybe I installed it without x...
[20:49] <savio> lbl, i know what we are discussing
[20:49] <nightwalkerkg> How do i cd via terminal to ntfs partitions i have on my HDD ?
[20:49] <savio> lbl, leave it now
[20:49] <devis> zykotick9: usr13 no fstab is not at all feasible
[20:49] <usr13> devis: Well, yes, long as you have them logically defined in the /etc/fstab file ( as zykotick9 suggests).
[20:49] <zykotick9> devis: ;) i'm not surprised.  good luck.
[20:50] <diamonds_> $ service lightdm start #assuming I had lightdm, this should start it, right?
[20:50] <zykotick9> diamonds_: sudo!
[20:50] <usr13> zykotick9: Oh, ok.  Well, I hadn't noticed.  I mostly just use xfce and thunar, never been a big fan of nautilus.
[20:50] <devis> usr13: computers will keep on adding and leaving
[20:50] <devis> usr13: so ip will alos be changing
[20:50] <usr13> devis: haha yes, that's true
[20:50] <diamonds_> zykotick9: yeah but "unrecognized"
[20:50] <zykotick9> usr13: is use xfce +thundar you should be the perfect person to answer ;)  i use neither.
[20:51] <zykotick9> diamonds_: provide full error to paste.ubuntu.com
[20:51] <zykotick9> diamonds_: are you using lightdm?  kubuntu or something?  another DM?
[20:51] <likewyise> hello
[20:51] <devis> usr13: thunar lacks that feature and if you run nautilus then also no luck in lsde
[20:51] <usr13> zykotick9: Yes, xfce and thunar just seem a bit simplier and doesn't have bells or whistles I don't need.
[20:52] <diamonds_> zykotick9: I think what I did was install ubuntu w/o X
[20:52] <diamonds_> I just forgot how I had disabled X, it was "not install it"
[20:52] <diamonds_> I don't use it on this box
[20:52] <usr13> diamonds_: Did you do server install?
[20:52] <likewyise> any help regarding for this upgrading to 12.04 didn't seem to resolve it at all! http://askubuntu.com/questions/178297/i-want-to-do-a-bridge-between-ubuntu-and-my-ps3
[20:52] <diamonds_> usr13: Yeah I think so
[20:52] <zykotick9> usr13: rox is the only FM i have installed currently.  i don't automount anything - besides "users" in fstab ;)
[20:52] <ThePeach> hi all, I'm playing around with pear, and found out that the include_path is wrong, I don't get where is that set, can anyone lend me a hand?
[20:53] <usr13> zykotick9: Yes, fstab does all the auto mouting I need.
[20:53] <diamonds_> my scenario: I have a friend looking to setup a headless local VM like mine, I was looking thru my configs to figure how I disabled X, I think I just never installed it
[20:53] <ThePeach> this is just after installing it: include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear'
[20:53] <diamonds_> so no issue :)
[20:53] <nightwalkerkg> Anyone ? How do i navigate via terminal to /media/Sistem ?
[20:53] <usr13> diamonds_: One can just disable X
[20:53] <diamonds_> usr13: yeah how do you do that at boot?
[20:54] <usr13> nightwalkerkg: cd /media/Sistem
[20:54] <ThePeach> while apt-get installed it into /usr/share/php/PEAR
[20:54] <WeThePeople> cd = change directory
[20:54] <diamonds_> usr13: I know there's a way to change the kernel cmdline but I forget which one & how
[20:54] <usr13> diamonds_: apt-get will remove anything you want to remove
[20:54] <nightwalkerkg> Stupid me. Got it.
[20:54] <usr13> diamonds_: linux single
[20:54] <diamonds_> usr13: oh I thought you were referring to the cmdline way
[20:55] <cdoublejj> uuhhh how to i get passed this? http://i.imgur.com/mh24d.png
[20:55] <usr13> diamonds_: Well, not any more.... grub is a bit different now.  Let me see.
[20:55] <nightwalkerkg> usr13: Yeah,i forgot to add / in front of media. But now i can't navigate to Documents and Settings,it's recognizing only Documents.
[20:55] <Schmo> hey guys. everytime I try to access my NAS after reboot via nautilus I have to enter username and password. the checkbox "access forever" does not do anything... http://imgur.com/8WdOr
[20:55] <BluesKaj> likewyise, doesn't your PS3 have wifi without needing ethernet ?
[20:56] <zykotick9> diamonds_: server doesn't have a gui by default!  to prevent lightdm from starting have him rename the file in /etc/init.d/FOO.conf to Foo.conf.disabled and lightdm won't start (adjust for CORRECTNAMES! and alternative DMs)
[20:56] <savio> nightwalkerkg, you need to add \ to include space
[20:56] <zykotick9> diamonds_: what are you trying to add to the kernel line?  usually you'd add to /etc/default/grub !
[20:57] <cdoublejj> uuhh how do i get passed this... http://i.imgur.com/mh24d.png ? enter and space bar do not work.
[20:57] <cdoublejj> ps3 should indeed have wifi
[20:57] <usr13> nightwalkerkg: You have to escape the spaces.  cd Documents\ and\ Settings/
[20:57] <nightwalkerkg> savio: usr13 Yeah,thanks.
[20:57] <bilbonvidia> hello
[20:58] <zykotick9> cdoublejj: 1st try "q", 2nd try "alt" (if it highlights Ok - hit enter probably)
[20:58] <savio> hey
[20:58] <TheThreshold> hello guys...i am trying to download something with deluge but the only seed tells me i am not connectable...how do i check that in 12.04? thanks
[20:59] <usr13> diamonds_: http://xcellentcy.wordpress.com/2011/12/04/ubuntu-how-to-boot-into-text-mode/
[20:59] <cdoublejj> q and tab aren't helping but, if  irandomly mash them a black pops up for half a second
[20:59] <zykotick9> cdoublejj: click with your mouse before you type...
[20:59] <bilbonvidia> could someone have a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2046139
[20:59] <cdoublejj> mouse doens't work either
[20:59] <bilbonvidia> need help with my ifs
[20:59] <sam__> q
[20:59] <cdoublejj> all did was select wine pacakge maanger
[21:00] <cdoublejj> maybe i can back out of it?
[21:00] <zykotick9> cdoublejj: wine?  during screenshot you have synaptic and 2 chromium windows?  be sure you click on that blue text part of the window.  then try enter or alt,then enter.
[21:01] <devis> usr13: zykotick9 Got it in pcmanfm go>network drives
[21:01] <devis> similar in thunar
[21:01] <cdoublejj> that didn't work either
[21:01] <usr13> bilbonvidia: sudo apt-get remove network-manager;sudo apt-get install wicd
[21:02] <zykotick9> devis: pcmanfm is solid i hear, but relies on the udev mounting stuff (that you are currently looking for!) so it's a little heavy install wise for my liking unfortuneatly :(
[21:02] <zykotick9> devis: nice find though!
[21:03] <usr13> bilbonvidia: or: sudo apt-get install wicd;sudo remove network-manager
[21:03] <IcedX> duz dis channel has rulez?
[21:03] <usr13> IcedX: Sure
[21:03] <devis> zykotick9: thunar or pcmanfm , which you find more resource hungry?
[21:03] <IcedX> usr13: 13?
[21:03] <bilbonvidia> thnx
[21:04] <usr13> IcedX: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[21:04] <shapkona_> Ok I need help with my baby steps here
[21:04] <likewyise> @Blueskaj:  I use for windows xp this setup of doing a bridge connection and it works flawsleslly because my laptop is far away from my router that makes it get very few percentage connection if I connect wirelessly with this method connected to the wireless of my computer I get 100% connection. basically my laptop gets wireless and is connected via crossover utp cable to the ps3
[21:04] <shapkona_> Oh thanx
[21:04] <IcedX> usr13: Are you 13?
[21:04] <usr13> IcedX: No, I'm 14
[21:04] <vaio> can anyone help me with some ubuntu problems?
[21:04] <usr13> vaio: Sure
[21:04] <bekks> vaio: Not without knowing them.
[21:04] <IcedX> usr13: dammit
[21:04] <litropy> IcedX, Yes, it does. Namely, keep the topic Ubuntu-related.
[21:04] <zykotick9> devis: i don't use file manager anymore... sorry.  i keep rox around for the occasional need these days - but that's uber-light (probably not what most people in #ubuntu would like!  FYI i spend most of my time in "screen" aka text only)
[21:05] <vaio> i am trying to get the lid actions to work on my laptop
[21:05] <IcedX> litropy: OK thank you.
[21:05] <vaio> close lid: suspend system...
[21:05] <vaio> so on
[21:05] <MoTec> Hey guys.. I'm having problems with mounting a share from a windows file server on ubuntu 12.04.   I can mount it using smbclient but it's failing after I modified fstab and tried just 'mount /media/sharename'
[21:05] <likewyise> @Blueskaj: What I don't understand is why I do have eth0 and eth1 both at the same time I already deactivated ipv6 because it was said on an article on ubuntu that 11.10 had this problem but when I upgraded to 12.04 it continues having the same problem so I had to deactivate and the command sudo killall dnsmasq didn't resolve anything
[21:06] <MoTec> Hey guys.. I'm having problems with mounting a share from a windows file server on ubuntu 12.04.   I can mount it using smbclient but it's failing after I modified fstab and tried just 'mount /media/sharename'.  It says 'wrong fs type, bad option, missing codepage or helper program or other error.'
[21:06] <litropy> vaio, that would be in System Settings > Power
[21:06] <vaio> i have tried the options in the "power" management scheme... tried the g/dconfig editor, tried the gnome tweak tool, ubuntu-tweak... nothing seems to work
[21:06] <BluesKaj> likewyise, so your PS3 is too far from the router to comunicate by wifi
[21:06] <usr13> vaio: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/hardware/C/pm-suspending.html
[21:08] <vaio> usr13, thanks but there's no information there...
[21:08] <litropy> vaio, "You can manually put your computer into a power-saving mode by pressing the User Switcher in the top right hand corner of the screen and then pressing the appropriate button." Furthermore, dmesg might give some clues.
[21:08] <vaio> report a bug in lauchpad??? :lol:
[21:08] <likewyise> @Blueskaj: My ps3 is too far away from the router to communicate so is my laptop but with this method of using a bridge in windows xp even If I get little connection and it connects via crossover utp cable to my ps3 I get downloads with high speeds but if I use wireless I get almost zero speed and playstation network tend to disconnect that is why I don't want to use wireless at no cost
[21:08] <usr13> MoTec: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[21:08] <xtalmath> Ubuntu Help states: "You can upgrade directly from the previous LTS release to the current release." I am running Ubuntu 10.04 (LTS), and I notice Ubuntu 12.04 (LTS) is out. Yet I do not see the upgrade to 12 in the update manager.
[21:09] <MoTec> usr13: ah, a little different format on the fstab line.. let me try that.
[21:09] <vaio> litropy, i am trying to get the lid actions to work. i have tried hibernation or suspension sudo pm-suspend, sudo pm-hibernate... they do not work
[21:09] <litropy> vaio, does dmesg give any clues?
[21:09] <usr13> vaio: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/hardware/C/pm-suspending.html#pm-suspend-hibernate-fails
[21:10] <vaio> i don't know what to look for litropy
[21:10] <eighties> hello. im looking for help with dualbooting. im using a win7 asus. can anyone point me in the right direction
[21:10] <litropy> vaio, welp, you could always $dmesg | pastebinit
[21:11] <vaio> usr13, i'll just check that now... litropy, i'll be back in just a second... thanks you guys
[21:11] <tbocs> eighties, just go to Ubuntu website to download Wubi.
[21:12] <vaio> okay, just tried the suspend option at user switch... all that happens seems to be exactly the same with lock screen
[21:13] <usr13> eighties: what tbocs is suggesting is not dual booting.
[21:14] <usr13> eighties: And probably not what you want.
[21:14] <vaio> litropy? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1161611/
[21:14] <MoTec> usr13: nothing new there.   I can access the share using 'smbclient //server/share -U domain/username' but I even put '//server/share /media/share cifs username=domain/username,password=password 0 0' in my /etc/fstab and I get the same generic error when i do a 'sudo mount -a' or 'sudo mount /media/share'
[21:14] <usr13> eighties: If you just go thorugh Ubuntu's install process, it will automatically install a boot loader with options for dual booting.
[21:15] <usr13> eighties: Just tell it to go on and write grub to the primary drive's MBR, (which is the default option).
[21:15] <deuropeirc> hey  that good work for
[21:15] <deuropeirc> PC (Intel x86) desktop CD   or  64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD  ?
[21:16] <kenichi> bizzaro networking problem: freshly installed 12.04LTS interfaces up and working, flat topology (all on one consumer switch).  can ssh and mysql from other nodes, but connections get dropped and then refused for a bit after a second or so.  nothing of interest in logs... anyone have any ideas?
[21:16] <litropy> vaio, lsb_release -a | grep Release
[21:16] <usr13> eighties: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows
[21:16] <bekks> litropy: lsb_release -r
[21:16] <usr13> litropy: lsb_release -r
[21:17] <litropy> bekks, usr13, thx
[21:17] <usr13> NP
[21:17] <kenichi> ufw is disabled, nothing else running...
[21:17] <deuropeirc> Release:	10.04
[21:17] <litropy> vaio, preferably this instead: $ lsb_release -r
[21:17] <Dantevios> What's a way I could cut down on memory usge on a Live CD? (Maybe killing x or something?)
[21:18] <usr13> Dantevios: Sure
[21:18] <cdoublejj> i reboot in the middle of the wine install because it was stuck then this happened ...
[21:18] <vaio> release: 12.04
[21:18] <vaio> just installed 3 -4 hours ago, fresh
[21:18] <Dantevios> How do I kill X in ubuntu usr13 ?
[21:19] <zykotick9> Dantevios: usually "sudo service lightdm stop"
[21:19] <cdoublejj> how do i fix this? http://imgur.com/CWLVI
[21:19] <McClein> hi, i've got a pc with lucid and my atheros wireless stop working. Wireless is greyed out in network manager applet
[21:19] <usr13> Dantevios: pkill X
[21:19] <litropy> vaio, make/model of laptop?
[21:19] <vaio> increased swap from 2GB to 3GB because i was told here earlier that hibernation or suspension  wouldn't work otherwise
[21:19] <usr13> Dantevios: Wait... it will just start again.
[21:19] <deuropeirc> PC (Intel x86) desktop CD   or  64-bit PC (AMD64) desktop CD  ? that  ?
[21:19] <zykotick9> usr13: lol
[21:19] <k1l> usr13: what zykotick9 said
[21:19] <bekks> vaio: How much RUM do you have?
[21:19] <vaio> vaio sz61vn
[21:19] <bekks> RAM :)
[21:20] <Dantevios> no actualyl that worked usr13
[21:20] <usr13> Dantevios: pkill gdm
[21:20] <Dantevios> thank you
[21:20] <usr13> Dantevios: Ok... well wasn't sure.
[21:20] <vaio> 2GB :))) (two shots)
[21:20] <Dantevios> Thank you usr13 :)
[21:20] <zykotick9> usr13: gdm?  most won't be using that!
[21:20] <bekks> vaio: Then you dont need more than 2GB swap for hibernation.
[21:20] <Guest61742> how do i activata my 3d desktop
[21:21] <vaio> i have a feeling it fails to put to sleep some of the hardware
[21:21] <k1l> usr13: ubuntu aitn using gdm anymore. why suggesting that?
[21:21] <MoTec> Having a problem mounting a share automatically.  I can access the share using 'smbclient //server/share -U domain/username' I put '//server/share /media/share cifs username=domain/username,password=password 0 0' in my /etc/fstab and I get a generic error when i do a 'sudo mount -a' or 'sudo mount /media/share'
[21:21] <cdoublejj> is it broke? http://imgur.com/CWLVI
[21:21] <bekks> cdoublejj: The error message tells you to do something...
[21:22] <usr13> k1l: I dono, lost my head I guess  :)
[21:22] <BoomerBile> can anyone tell me the name of the package (or meta package) to pull in all tools to compile software (gcc tool chain and autotools) ?
[21:22] <cdoublejj> if thats true why doesn't it just do iut?
[21:22] <usr13> lightdm?
[21:22] <vaio> But it's not happening bekks
[21:22] <Guest61742> hi
[21:22] <IcedT> hi
[21:23] <bekks> vaio: Which doesnt mean you have to less swap space. Your first approach sounds more logical, that some hardware fails to be put asleep.
[21:23] <vaio> it used to work, even when i had it installed with wubi, with no swap whatsoever... and when i had it installed in a dedicated partition but without swap
[21:23] <bilbonvidia> #!/bin/bash
[21:23] <bilbonvidia> ping -c 2 192.168.0.2 >/dev/null
[21:23] <bilbonvidia> if [ $? -eq 1 ] ; then
[21:23] <bilbonvidia> /usr/bin/wakeonlan 00:1d:92d:1a:0d
[21:23] <bilbonvidia> sleep 5
[21:23] <bilbonvidia> if [ "$(pidof xbmc.bin)" ] ; then
[21:23] <bilbonvidia> killall -9 xbmc.bin
[21:23] <bilbonvidia> else
[21:23] <bilbonvidia> sleep 60
[21:23] <bilbonvidia> fi
[21:23] <bilbonvidia> fi
[21:23] <bilbonvidia> is that correct?
[21:23] <DucBlangis> ever heard of pastebin?
[21:23] <bilbonvidia> syntax
[21:23] <zykotick9> !paste | bilbonvidia
[21:23] <vaio> a hunch tells me it could be the option-hdspa module that is incorporated in the motherboard
[21:23] <BoomerBile> wow, didn't get booted for that?
[21:23] <zykotick9> BoomerBile: ya, i wondered as well...
[21:24] <usr13> BoomerBile: You gotta be bad to get booted
[21:24] <DucBlangis> Also, there is a #bash chan
[21:24] <bilbonvidia> sorry
[21:24] <BoomerBile> most chans kick you for more than 3 lines of pasted text, usr13
[21:24] <zykotick9> "killall -9 xbmc.bin" lol
[21:24] <vaio> but i tried the "aeroplane mode" and nothing changed
[21:24] <usr13> they're pretty tolerant here
[21:24] <BoomerBile> lol since when?
[21:25] <BoomerBile> last week?
[21:25] <zykotick9> BoomerBile: xbmc is way to unstable for me.  i gave up...
[21:25] <DucBlangis> Yea I got booted not long ago for saying something about a penis
[21:25] <litropy> vaio, $ uname -r
[21:25] <likewyise> I will have to come tomorrow I don't understand how is this question so difficult to help with? can't you guys give any advice : http://askubuntu.com/questions/178297/i-want-to-do-a-bridge-between-ubuntu-and-my-ps3
[21:25] <DucBlangis> like a bunch of 12 year olds are on here or something
[21:25] <DucBlangis> talking about linux
[21:25] <BoomerBile> i got booted in this channel for typing too fast
[21:26] <vaio> litropy: 3.2.0-30-generic-pae
[21:26] <cdoublejj> it's stuck again and all tthe buttons won't do any thing
[21:26] <cdoublejj> 	http://imgur.com/AirZk
[21:26] <BoomerBile> does anyone know which package to pull in for all the gcc tools?
[21:26] <bekks> BoomerBile: build-essential
[21:26] <BoomerBile> i got ubuntu running on my android phone, want to compile software
[21:26] <BoomerBile> thanks bekks
[21:26] <jrib> BoomerBile: you don't get booted for typing too fast; maybe for pressing enter too much though
[21:27]  * zykotick9 PAE = 32 hack to get quasi4GB+ RAM usage.  if you want to use 4+GB effectively, use 64bit...
[21:27] <BoomerBile> jrib, you get booted for typing too fast if you can pump out 3 lines of text like they are pasted... and yes pressing enter too much is probably what did it
[21:27] <ryan_> hi
[21:27] <MoTec> I am having problems mounting a windows share using Server 12.04.  I can access it using smbclient but not by mounting it.  Details here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1161630/
[21:27] <Rayden>  /server 87.118.124.140 10007
[21:28] <BoomerBile> woot
[21:28] <nixfreak> I have umet dependencies that I have never seen before i am using ubuntu for a project and used to archlinux can someone explain to me these errors  http://pastie.org/4570561
[21:28] <FedVitEsk4> hello
[21:28] <BoomerBile> thanks to ubuntu, i may not have to use the android sdk to build software for android ;)
[21:28] <ryan_> how do i activate my 3d desktop on 12.04 lts
[21:29] <bekks> MoTec: Whats the line in your fstab?
[21:29] <nixfreak> all I want to do is install default-jre
[21:29] <jrib> nixfreak: you've probably used some bad (read: not meant for you distribution) repositories or installed some unofficial packages
[21:29] <bekks> MoTec: And wats the output of "dmesg" immediately after getting that error?
[21:29] <zykotick9> nixfreak: i'm guessing you are mixing distros (or using a PPA) in some manner... good luck.
[21:29] <ryan_> how do i activate my 3d desktop on 12.04 lts
[21:30] <nixfreak> how can I fix these
[21:30] <zykotick9> nixfreak: is "sudo apt-get -f install" currently running cleanly?
[21:30] <MoTec> bekks: i've tried several.. to rule out my credentials file I tried:  //servername.domain.local/share /media/mountpoint cifs username=domain/username,password=password 0 0
[21:30] <jrib> nixfreak: undo what you did :/
[21:30] <ryan_> hi
[21:30] <nixfreak> yeah i have tried -f install multiple times
[21:30] <MoTec> bekks: ah.. it's telling me no username specified.
[21:30] <nixfreak> no errors when i run the command
[21:31] <zykotick9> nixfreak: did you try to install something from DEB file?
[21:31] <nixfreak> no
[21:31] <FedVitEsk4> info FedVitEsk4
[21:31] <cdoublejj> so guys the trick was to press the down key and scroll through the uela
[21:31] <ryan_> hi
[21:31] <zykotick9> nixfreak: good luck.  i got nothin' :(
[21:32] <bekks> MoTec: Because in an AD, you have to use \ instead of /, and possible have to escape it.
[21:32] <nixfreak> hmm
[21:32] <MoTec> bekks: actually, looks like i needed smbfs
[21:32] <zykotick9> bekks: does AD = Active Directory?
[21:32] <MoTec> I also got a message: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -22
[21:33] <ryan_> nixfreak, how do i activate my 3d desktop
[21:33] <MoTec> which led me here: http://obdit.com/pad/2009/12/05/solution-to-cifs_mount-failed-wreturn-code-22/
[21:34] <nixfreak> umm do you have a composite turned on?
[21:34] <vaio> litropy, any ideas bro?
[21:34] <nixfreak> and what 3d desktop are you talking about compiz ?
[21:34] <bekks> zykotick9: Yes.
[21:34] <Guest55739> hello
[21:34] <BoomerBile> vaio, what's you needs help with?
[21:35] <Newb100> Where can I hire a computer programer who knows blue tooth in the uk?
[21:35] <litropy> vaio, It's a 5 year old laptop. Updated kernels should have caught it by now. Beats me; I can't find anything that matches your issue ... everything I'm seeing has to do with TPM timing out, however in your case, it doesn't. You can [ctrl + f + error] in your browser page of dmesg and google stuff, or you can file a bug report.
[21:36] <MoTec> bekks: Ug, more frustration.. I can write when I use smbclient interactively, but even tho I got it mounted now I can't copy anything there.
[21:36] <MoTec> bekks: well, root can.. my user can't.. that's not an issue, i suppose.
[21:36] <vaio> boomerbile: make lid actions work... close lid: suspend system...
[21:37] <bekks> MoTec: I bet, thats the only issue. :)
[21:37] <vaio> i see litropy, thanks so much bro... i know it's got to be very tricky
[21:37] <BoomerBile> vaio, did you go to power options and set it all up?
[21:37] <vaio> the weird thing is that i even tried ubuntu 9.04 (beautiful... but obsolete) and still it doesn't work
[21:37] <vaio> yes boomerbile
[21:38] <BoomerBile> hmm
[21:38] <vaio> tried everything ...
[21:38] <BoomerBile> vaio, what laptop?
[21:38] <vaio> vaio sz61vn
[21:40] <vaio> the trouble with ubuntu is that you can never get the same results from two identical installations
[21:40] <bekks> vaio: False.
[21:41] <zykotick9> bekks: +1 on false.
[21:41] <vaio> i installed it 3 days ago, and my camera was working perfectly without installing anything else
[21:41] <dragon_> i got issues with useing kubuntu on my aao 150.....it was sayin basicly the system would crash all tha time ? an this all started after i would get all updates plues som programs i wanted, like 3d excel, google chrome, then i went to do som termial updates like tha ubuntu tweaks an swap area stuff an watt not.... reboot an get chashs waringings every boot an like 2 to 3 time in one session.............. any ideas on wat my problems m
[21:41] <dragon_> ay be ?ask away for more info
[21:41] <twiztid> zykotick9: REPORT: FIXED TEARING
[21:41] <vaio> i reinstalled ubuntu a few hours ago, and my camera does not work
[21:41] <vaio> i used the same cd.
[21:42] <zykotick9> twiztid: nice!  how ;)
[21:42] <bekks> vaio: So you misconfigured something.
[21:42] <vaio> i am the same person that installed it the first time, the second... third... and so on, till a few hours ago
[21:43] <twiztid> zykotick9: well first, making sure that sync to vblank is enabled in both compiz AND nvidia...
[21:43] <dragon_> ? ?? ?
[21:43] <zykotick9> twiztid: both already done ;)
[21:43] <twiztid> zykotick9: ...and that twin view is setup for meta mode
[21:43] <vaio> i have changed nothing, when i say identical installations, i mean using identical settings to the letter and the same cd
[21:43] <BoomerBile> It could be that the lid button event isn't being generated correctly. After closing the lid, have a look at the bottom of /var/log/acpid and see if there are any messages about the lid button event. vaio
[21:43] <vaio> anyway, the camera doesn't bother me... i can get it back in a second
[21:44] <twiztid> zykotick9: make sure both screens are in same res AND refresh set MANUALLY in nvidias settings
[21:44] <ryan_> any shortcut key for task manager in 12.04 LTS
[21:44] <zykotick9> twiztid: :( no "meta mode" found using 195... it might not be there :(..
[21:45] <zykotick9> twiztid: same res not possible in my case as well.
[21:45] <akhil_> hey
[21:45] <vaio> boomerbile, i do not even have an "acpid" folder in "/var/log/
[21:45] <dragon_> any one kno any hacks or tweas for lubuntu ?
[21:45] <BoomerBile> hmm
[21:45] <MoTec> bekks: it was even easier.. i'd copied the test file as root so my user couldn't overwrite.
[21:45] <ryan_> hi vaio
[21:45] <twiztid> zykotick9: meta mode is when your driver forces x servers overall res
[21:46] <cdoublejj> i don't see any option to "open with wine" just wine tricks and it just sots there
[21:46] <BoomerBile> http://vaio-utils.org/power/ <-- vaio
[21:46] <vaio> hi ryan_
[21:46] <twiztid> in my case, my display settings report me res at 2880x900
[21:47] <ryan_> vaio. does ubuntu hav task manager
[21:47] <dragon_> any ideas on how to get netflix working yet ? ?? ?
[21:47] <zykotick9> twiztid: i think you mean metamodes in xorg.conf - i can't set the same resolution on both monitors :( They are different, and i only have the tearing on one.
[21:47] <zykotick9> twiztid: thanks though!!!
[21:47] <vaio> it does ryan
[21:48] <icewalls123> hi people
[21:48] <vaio> boomerbile... where the HELL did you find that page???
[21:48] <ryan_> vaio. name of it pls
[21:48] <dragon_> any idea on how to get netflix working ? ?? ?
[21:48] <vaio> i've looked for it for 3 days in a row!!!
[21:48] <twiztid> zykotick9: ouch, ya same res seemed to be the culprit but i also made sure that DFP flat panel scaling method is stretched and force full gpu scaling is disabled
[21:48] <icewalls123> when ubuntu 12.04.1 come???????????
[21:48] <icewalls123> when ubuntu 12.04.1 come???????????
[21:48] <vaio> thank you so much boomerbile
[21:48] <vaio> ryan gnome-system-monitor
[21:48] <zykotick9> !schedule | icewalls123
[21:48] <litropy> vaio, BoomerBile: lol
[21:48] <twiztid> zykotick9: neither of your monitors have a common res???
[21:49] <zykotick9> icewalls123: includes 12.04.1
[21:49] <MoTec> Now for the next step... Getting vsftpd to use subfolders of that share for it's home directories :)
[21:49] <BoomerBile> vaio, google hehe
[21:49] <dragon_> hello ? does any one hear mee.... lol.. or shuld i say see me ?
[21:49] <zykotick9> twiztid: not that i'd run ;)
[21:49] <icewalls123> tomorrow
[21:49] <BoomerBile> vaio, here is my search terms for google --> lid sony vaio sz61vn ubuntu power management
[21:49] <zykotick9> twiztid: 1920x1200 vs 1280x104
[21:50] <vaio> omg!
[21:50] <BoomerBile> vaio, it was the 4rth one
[21:50] <vaio> :)))))
[21:50] <usr13> dragon_: http://how-to.wikia.com/wiki/How_to_watch_Netflix_%28Watch_Instantly%29_in_Linux
[21:50] <BoomerBile> the question now is, does it work? va
[21:50] <BoomerBile> vaio, ^^
[21:50] <vaio> call me stupid, - never tried that one - just because it used to work just fine with other versions... a year or so ago
[21:50] <twiztid> zykotick9: aw bummer, ya i had my left at is highest 1440x900 and my right at its highest 1600x900, so after all the preliminary checks, bumping my right down to 1440x900 and gpu scaling on stretched did the trick
[21:51] <vaio> omg... i'm gonna go in front of a mirror and shoot it
[21:51] <zykotick9> twiztid: glad you fixed it!
[21:51] <twiztid> zykotick9: thanks for your help as well! editing nvidia-settings as sudo was quite the hurdle to make the settings stick, in my case anyway... thank you for helpin, cheers!
[21:52] <BoomerBile> hehe, in all your excitement i can't tell if it's working for you or not... let me know if it works vaio
[21:52] <vaio> comeon, even you have to admit... just by coming here it's a pretty big achievement for a stone-ager like me
[21:52] <BoomerBile> floodbot, your the person flooding
[21:52] <zykotick9> twiztid: god i hope you used gksudo ;)  it's important for gui apps... you can break your home dir permissions if you use sudo...
[21:52] <vaio> i'll be back in a minute... it told me to restart to reprofile
[21:52] <vaio> thanks so so much bro
[21:52] <BoomerBile> np
[21:54] <usr13> BoomerBile: He calls his self stone ager and he's using linux?
[21:55] <BoomerBile> usr13, haha, yeah funny
[21:56] <octane--> I'm getting "rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking" on my client NFS… anyone know wasabi?
[21:56] <usr13> I don't think that someone that uses a state-of-the-art OS, like Ubuntu can be classed as stone-aged.  :)
[21:57] <vaio> back again... boomerbile. it still doesn't work
[21:57] <vaio> :))
[21:57] <zykotick9> octane--: do you have both nfs and portmap running?
[21:57] <octane--> zykotick9: oh both need portmap?
[21:57] <octane--> sudo service portmap start ?
[21:57] <zykotick9> octane--: nfs needs portmap... not sure what the other is...
[21:57] <usr13> BoomerBile: What did he do?
[21:58] <octane--> zykotick9: okay cool will try
[21:58] <BoomerBile> i don't know exactly what he did, but i sent him to this page usr13 http://vaio-utils.org/power/
[21:59] <usr13> vaio: BoomerBile  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11926504
[21:59] <BoomerBile> hopefully he searched with synaptic or something for that package and installed it
[21:59] <BoomerBile> brb i have to go outside so i can get signal and check my voicemail
[22:00] <zykotick9> octane--: other client and server require nfs-common
[22:00] <octane--> zykotick9: yeah i installed that for sure
[22:00] <vaio> usr13, i will try it now
[22:00] <zykotick9> octane--: s/other/both/
[22:00] <vaio> thank you
[22:00] <octane--> im folowing the guide on help.ubuntu
[22:01] <zykotick9> octane--: if you provide the url i'll open it and see what you are seeing
[22:01] <usr13> vaio: BoomerBile Of course, laptops each have a set of idiosyncrasies that may be at issue, so...
[22:02] <octane--> zykotick9: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo#Installation_and_Configuration
[22:02] <octane--> cheers mate
[22:03] <zykotick9> octane--: is the nfs server known good at this point?  is the issue the client or server (for sure)?
[22:04] <octane--> zykotick9: i can successfully ping the machines… its definitely the client because the error is on the client side me thinks
[22:04] <zykotick9> octane--: the instructions specifically mention rpcbind on both systems, i actually figured that would be a dependency?... odd.
[22:04] <octane--> yeah i installed em for sure
[22:04] <octane--> socialtables@tamale2 ~/tmp$ sudo mount tamale1:/home/socialtables/socialtables.com/shared test
[22:04] <octane--> mount.nfs: rpc.statd is not running but is required for remote locking.
[22:05] <zykotick9> octane--: is test a valid directory below your current pwd?  use full path please.
[22:05] <vaio> thanks usr13... just did what it said to the letter. it's not working. i'm gonna give it a reboot... let's see. i'll be back in a second. thanks again
[22:05] <zykotick9> octane--: better yet use /mnt that's what it's there for - temporary mounting...
[22:05] <octane--> i gotta mkdir right?
[22:05] <octane--> in mnt
[22:06] <zykotick9> octane--: NO.  must mount to /mnt
[22:06] <octane--> yeah same error
[22:06] <octane--> to /mount
[22:06] <zykotick9> octane--: pastebin command & error please.  don't use pastebin.com!
[22:07] <octane--> zykotick9: what's better than pastebin.com?
[22:07] <zykotick9> !paste
[22:07] <octane--> zykotick9: rock. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1161690/
[22:08] <zykotick9> octane--: replace tmalel with IP as a test
[22:08] <octane--> OK!
[22:08] <octane--> zykotick9: same
[22:08] <octane--> i used private ip
[22:09] <zykotick9> octane--: actually just run "sudo mount -o nolock tamale1:/home/socialtables/socialtables.com/shared /mnt" as a test
[22:09] <vaio> usr13... it doesn't work :(((
[22:09] <dragon_> is there any way to use netflix yet in tha ubuntu family ?
[22:09] <j2daosh> got a weird question. I keep getting random "connection refused" for ssh on my ubuntu at home that happens for about 3 minutes, then i can connect again fine for another 15-20 minutes, then it dies again, another 3-4 minutes it will let me connect again. what can i look at to find out what the hell is happening?
[22:09] <vaio> pressing the suspend button simply locks the screen
[22:09] <octane--> ooooh
[22:09] <octane--> no error
[22:09] <octane--> let's see...
[22:10] <octane--> ugh nothing :(
[22:10] <vaio> i mean, the results are the same, it just takes a little longer
[22:10] <zykotick9> octane--: "ps aux | grep statd" give output?
[22:10] <dragon_> ? ?? ?
[22:10] <octane--> yup. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1161695/
[22:11] <dragon_> netflix ? how to get it to work in lubuntu ? any ideas yet ?
[22:11] <j2daosh> what log do i need to look at to check connectivity issues?
[22:11] <zykotick9> octane--: hummm.  dude i'm quickly running out of suggestions/ideas...  like now actually ;)
[22:12] <octane--> hahaha
[22:12] <octane--> zykotick9: no problem dude thanks anyway!
[22:12] <dragon_> reallly ? no f in help ?
[22:12] <usr13> dragon_: We don't know.
[22:12] <octane--> i edited hosts allow and deny im gonna try messsing with that
[22:12] <zykotick9> octane--: if you type "mount" it isn't currently mentioned is it?
[22:12] <octane--> uhm
[22:12] <octane--> it is
[22:12] <j2daosh> dragon, netflix uses silverlight. make sure you have it installed
[22:12] <zykotick9> lol
[22:12] <octane--> tamale1:/home/socialtables/socialtables.com/shared on /mnt type nfs (rw,nolock,addr=192.168.188.176)
[22:12] <j2daosh> or its linux substitute
[22:13] <zykotick9> octane--: "cd /mnt" then "ls"
[22:13] <octane--> dude
[22:13] <octane--> nothing there!
[22:13] <dragon_> ok...... well netflix has been around 4 like 10 yrs maybe less..... an linux has been round 4 like 4 ever... an still no work arounds ? ?? ? r u serious
[22:13] <octane--> socialtables@tamale2 /mnt$ ls -l
[22:13] <octane--> total 0
[22:13] <octane--> im not crazy!
[22:13] <zykotick9> lol - of course not.  "cd /" then "sudo umount /mnt"
[22:14] <octane--> nada
[22:14] <zykotick9> octane--: what filesystem are we dealing with?
[22:14] <dragon_> how can u insta silver light in linux lubuntu
[22:14] <usr13> dragon_: Did you install moonlight?
[22:14] <zykotick9> octane--: that was to unmount it
[22:14] <octane--> right
[22:14] <usr13> dragon_: Take it up with the folks at Netflix.
[22:14] <dragon_> i tryed that one br an could not install it, program error
[22:15] <usr13> dragon_: We aren't the ones that are trying to limit Netflix usage.
[22:15] <octane--> zykotick9: why would -noclock work?
[22:15] <octane--> jw
[22:15] <octane--> no lock*
[22:15] <zykotick9> octane--: noclock?  never heard of it.  repeat - what filesystem?
[22:15] <usr13> dragon_: Did you try libmoon?
[22:15] <octane--> ext3 i believe
[22:16] <dragon_> ok well I understand that..... but i do got a account there.. so thats jus f ed up that it only seems to work in retarted windows os's
[22:16] <zykotick9> octane--: can another system mount the nfs servers' export?
[22:16] <usr13> dragon_: see:  monodoc-moonlight-manual
[22:16] <xangua> usr13: dragon_ moonlight is an abandoned project
[22:16] <dragon_> what it libmoon
[22:16] <octane--> zykotick9: havent tried!
[22:17] <usr13> dragon_: moonlight-plugin-mozilla - Free Software clone of Silverlight 2.0 - Xulrunner 19 plugin
[22:17] <zykotick9> octane--: so it could be on server end then?
[22:17] <usr13> xangua: Then why is it still in the repos?
[22:17] <mneptok> xangua: that's an overstatement, and not related at all to Netflix not working on Linux.
[22:17] <octane--> sorry but i just dont understand why does mount list it and then it's not in /mnt?
[22:17] <usr13> xangua: I'm just showing what I see in the output of apt-cache
[22:17] <dragon_> ok.. well i got tha google chrome browser.. i like it better then firefox
[22:17] <usr13> xangua: I don't know.  I don't use Netflix.
[22:18] <zykotick9> mneptok: not really.  mono is deprecated isn't it?
[22:18] <octane--> zykotick9: i will maybe check exports on the server
[22:18] <usr13> dragon_: Don't waste your time.
[22:18] <dragon_> lol.....is there any way like maybe i could make my own plugin or somthin
[22:18] <usr13> I buy DVD moves from Amazon
[22:18] <zykotick9> mneptok: sorry, perhaps it was only moonlight that was abondoned, not mono as a whole...
[22:19] <miceiken> Are there any cleanup commands i can use on my server box? like fragmentation, removing unused files, docs etc?
[22:19] <octane--> zykotick9: thanks for your help dude
[22:19] <krzysz00> I have an HP 2005pr docking station and a 20in monitor that connects over HDMI. The monitor works when connected to the laptop directly, but not when it's connected to the docking station. Any ideas?
[22:19] <usr13> miceiken: Don't waste your time
[22:19] <zykotick9> octane--: best of luck man!
[22:19] <usr13> miceiken: (It's not needed.)
[22:20] <usr13> miceiken: (enjoy life as a Linux user)
[22:20] <xangua> usr13: it is not in precice, mneptok abandoned http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/linux-silverlight-plugin-moonlight-abandoned abandoned
[22:20] <miceiken> :d
[22:20] <usr13> xangua: O
[22:20] <dragon_> how about would i have to go to maybe make a plugin in to beable to enable net flix on lubintu
[22:21] <shigutso> a
[22:21] <prince_> Hello
[22:21] <usr13> xangua: Sorry, I usually hold my main system back at least until sometime after the first point release (LTS), so I may be a bit behind the times.
[22:21] <fellayaboy> how can i set vlc as default for all media...the only way that seems to work is if i right click the file, choose open with and set vlc as default...this gets really tidious...is there a simple way?
[22:21] <pp7> in 12.04 why does global menu stop working sometimes??
[22:22] <sebsebseb> hi
[22:22] <usr13> fellayaboy: What is hard about that?
[22:22] <krzysz00> I have an HP 2005pr docking station and a 20in monitor that connects over HDMI. The monitor works when connected to the laptop directly, but not when it's connected to the docking station. Any ideas?
[22:22] <xangua> pp7: for example¿ do you have your system updated¿
[22:23] <dragon_> any idea on how about i could make a plugin to anable tha viewing of netflix
[22:23] <fellayaboy> usr13 it gets very tidious
[22:23] <pp7> xangua, absolutely
[22:23] <fellayaboy> having to do it over and over and over again
[22:23] <sebsebseb> dragon_: hi I woudn't normally be here anymore, but for certain reasons decided to join just now, anyway I know about Netflix and Linux
[22:23] <fellayaboy> so theres no current way of making vlc the default for all media?
[22:24] <fellayaboy> without having to do that tidious ritual
[22:24] <sebsebseb> dragon_: unforutnatly Netflix do not support Desktop LInux,  they don't support Linux either unless you include Android as a Linux distro
[22:24] <usr13> fellayaboy: Not that I know of.
[22:24] <usr13> sebsebseb: Good luck, he's been told that 3 or 4 times now.
[22:25] <sebsebseb> usr13: oh well I didn't know that, I just joiend
[22:25] <dragon_> kool... well i would like to get net flix to work on my lubuntu.. i love netflix, an i think its retarted it only seems it works on a windows system
[22:25] <jusss> how i can do that two keyboards mouses displays work on one computer with different user together?
[22:25] <jrib> fellayaboy: you can edit ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list or ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list (I don't remember which one is used nowadays)
[22:25] <usr13> sebsebseb: That's ok, just letting you know.  I should't be so rude about it, but when someone keeps asking the same question over and over, it gets old.
[22:25] <xangua> fellayaboy: there was an option to do that in 'ubuntu tweak' to do that, well actually i am refering when i used lucid there was an option to do that; don't know the current state of Ubuntu Tweak
[22:26] <dragon_> well then is there any way to slipstream tha android kernal into lubuntu
[22:26] <fellayaboy> sucks
[22:26] <usr13> dragon_: Yea, there may be. That would be cool.
[22:26] <usr13> dragon_: Can I PM you?
[22:27] <sebsebseb> dragon_: no it's not the kernel
[22:27] <sebsebseb> dragon_: I don't think the kernel has much to do with it
[22:27] <dragon_> hmmm.... any idea of how about to that ?
[22:27] <sebsebseb> Android has a lot of differences to Desktop Linux distros
[22:27] <fellayaboy> this is what sucks...the mimeapps.list says vlc is the deafult for audio and video yet it never opens by default unless i do that right click open with default ritual
[22:27] <sebsebseb> so Netflix made for Android sure, but not for Desktop Linux,  and so yep works with Android, but not normal Linux distros
[22:27] <k1l> dragon_: you topic would be placed better in #ubuntu-discuss
[22:27] <sebsebseb> !ot
[22:28] <vaio> usr13, i tried them to the letter, it did not work
[22:29] <dragon_> ok... well i'll head there... but i think it'd be awsom to try to slipstream android in to a linux distro, 1 for netflix, but maybe to beter optimize a lxde install of linux
[22:30] <sebsebseb> dragon_: uh no
[22:30] <sebsebseb> that's not how it works
[22:30] <sebsebseb> Android is differnet from normal Linux distros, netflix has not been made for normal distros
[22:30] <dragon_> y no
[22:30] <sebsebseb> also Netflix is silveright for computers,  that's a Microsoft thing, and won't work with anything, but WIndows  well maybe Mac as well
[22:30] <pp7> how do i restart global menu's after it stops working in 12.04 without logging out/back in?
[22:30] <sebsebseb> and Moonlight  the open source alternative is dead, but it seems was never good enough to handle Netflix anyway
[22:31] <sebsebseb> dragon_: so basically you run Windows in a virtual machine, or run it on some other device such as a PS3 or Android phone/tablet
[22:31] <sebsebseb> for Netflix
[22:31] <sebsebseb> or contact them and demand they make for "normal" distros
[22:31] <bekks> Or just pay them to do so.
[22:32] <sebsebseb> dragon_: yep or you can do that ^ if you got the cash
[22:32] <dragon_> yea, tru tru, but i dont like useing a vm, on this netbook... its tooo slow to do anythin thru one of thouse
[22:32] <sebsebseb> dragon_: well yeah true netbooks aren't realy vm devices, but I guess you got some other device where you can run Netflix anyway
[22:32] <octane--> zykotick9: it was a problem with my hosts.allow/deny
[22:33] <sebsebseb> dragon_: you can put XP or Windows 7 stater edition on or something, if it didn't come with, then run Netflix in that I guess
[22:33] <dragon_> yea a ps3... but i cnat jus use it on tha go if u kno wat i mean.. like on a car rime to airazona
[22:33] <zykotick9> octane--: good catch!  that's insane, most issues with hosts.deny these days are it not working ;)
[22:33] <octane--> zykotick9: havent figured out WHY but at least now i know WHAT :)
[22:34] <zykotick9> octane--: NFS is a service that could potentially be use hosts.allow and hosts.deny... very few do.
[22:34] <octane--> zykotick9: but still when i mount it mounts, listes in mount but doesnt list in ls
[22:35] <dragon_> yea, this net book came with win xp home..... i put xp pro on it, an also home starter of 7 an tha ultimate... they worked good..... but i knew i could get better proformance movein away from windows
[22:36] <zykotick9> octane--: are you still using that -no-lock type thing?  don't use that...
[22:36] <octane--> zykotick9: nah i took that out
[22:37] <_kevin> hi all. for some reason, my alt+f2 isn't working... really, alt+anything isnt working. if im in a terminal and hit alt+f2 it shows up as ';3Q' .. any ideas?
[22:37] <_kevin> was working fine before i rebooted
[22:37] <zykotick9> octane--: once mounted, does "df" show correct size for mounted filesystem?
[22:37] <jusss> how i can do that two keyboards two mouses two users together work on one computer ?
[22:37] <IlikeMoose> is it possible to boot from a usb flash drive and install 12.04 on a different usb hard drive?
[22:37] <_kevin> but i know it cant be *completely* broken, cuz ctrl+alt+fN switches to a terminal
[22:39] <easy> ever since i updated Ubuntu to the ver 12 can't use the wireless connection
[22:39] <Frozenlock> Someone gave me a ppk file to connect to his computer. ppk is for putty isn't it? How can I use it with SSH (not on windows)
[22:39] <_kevin> read https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/331556 , but i do have gnome-compatibility on
[22:41] <usr13> easy: Does it have encryption?
[22:41] <TiZ> Hi. For some reason, nm-applet starts with the Ambiance theme even though I have my desktop configured to use Zukitwo. But if I kill nm-applet and restart it, it uses Zukitwo. How do I get this to work right the first time?
[22:42] <easy> actually in the  wireless isn't even show i can only connect it through wire
[22:42] <usr13> TiZ: sudo apt-get install wicd;sudo apt-get remove network-manager
[22:43] <IlikeMoose> !usb
[22:43] <TiZ> usr13: Ha, witty... but not an option. I need network-manager's VPN integration.
[22:43] <TiZ> And its icon theme integration.
[22:43] <usr13> o
[22:44] <octane--> zykotick9: doesnt event appear in df
[22:44] <usr13> TiZ: Well, there are other ways to use VPN
[22:44] <octane--> zykotick9: wait that's a lie. it does!
[22:44] <octane--> and yes it shows up with the numbers
[22:44] <TiZ> usr13: I rather like being able to click on my network icon and select my university's VPN from a nice little submenu, and not having to keep openconnect running in the foreground of a terminal session.
[22:45] <usr13> TiZ: Ok, well, just a suggestion.
[22:45] <usr13> ...sometimes simple is better, but not always
[22:45] <IlikeMoose> is it possible to boot from a usb flash drive and install 12.04 on a different usb hard drive?
[22:45] <k1l> IlikeMoose: yes
[22:46] <IlikeMoose> thx :)
[22:46] <TiZ> usr13: Yeah. I used wicd for a long time myself, good little app. Just doesn't fit my needs anymore.
[22:46] <IlikeMoose> i'll give it a shot
[22:46] <cdoublejj> isn't linux supposed to have 3d accelration?
[22:46] <cdoublejj> http://imgur.com/UscGm
[22:46] <TiZ> It's just rather curious as to why one app is starting without the theme I chose.
[22:46] <_kevin> hey. sorry, computer went haywire. anybody have any input as to why my special key combos arent working?
[22:46] <usr13> Well, I dono what's up with that
[22:47] <usr13> _kevin: Define haywire
[22:47] <ubuntu_> add this line in my crontab file  1  *    * * *   root    echo "GET UP CRON WORKED !!!! "
[22:47] <ubuntu_>   
[22:48] <ubuntu_> But I don't see it working ... at all should print every minute to the terminal
[22:48] <usr13> ubuntu_: What is that supposed to do?
[22:48] <_kevin> usr13: just went unresponsive.. buuuut now im trying to figure out why my alt+f1, alt+f2, ctrl+alt+left/right key combos don't work... hitting alt+f2 in a gnome-terminal shows up as ';3Q' ... quick google suggests ccsm gnome-compatibility isn't turned on, but i /do/i have it turned on.
[22:49] <ubuntu_> print an echo message to the screen saying GET UP CRON WORKED
[22:49] <cdoublejj> I'm trying to google VM 3d acceleration and it is giving me stuff from 2005
[22:49] <ubuntu_> every minute
[22:49] <usr13> _kevin: hardware issue maybe?
[22:49] <usr13> ubuntu_: try xmessage
[22:50] <_kevin> usr13: was working fine before reboot... other keys work, like ctrl+alt+fN for tty terminals. just seems like something isnt configured right in x or such. i did recently do software package upgrade so maybe something got screwed.
[22:50] <usr13> ubuntu_: Not sure what you are trying to do, but...
[22:50] <usr13> _kevin: Check to see what was updated.
[22:51] <usr13> _kevin: /var/log/dpkg.log maybe
[22:51] <persona24> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu 12 on one of my friends computer. I can't get a wireless connection though. It's like the wireless card has just shut off. I don't know what year this computer is but when I turned it on it was running Windows Vista
[22:52] <usr13> persona24: Is it a laptop?
[22:52] <Loshki> ubuntu_: processes running under cron have no tty and therefore don't know where to send the output. Try something like: echo "GET UP CRON WORKED !!!! " >> /tmp/t
[22:52] <persona24> usr13: yes
[22:52] <bobweaver> persona24,  do you have access to the machine with ethernet ?
[22:52] <usr13> persona24: lspci |grep ireless  #tell us what it is
[22:53] <bobweaver> lsmod would also be nice ^^
[22:53] <persona24> bobweaver: yes I do
[22:53] <usr13> persona24: Yea, as bobweaver is about to suggest, you might connect to wired network and do updates first.
[22:53] <persona24> usr13: updates haven't popped up yet.
[22:54] <usr13> persona24: Who says they need to?
[22:54] <usr13> persona24: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:54] <bobweaver> ok persona24  hook up the ethernet so you can get network then sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsmod |pastebinit && lspci -nn | pastebinit  then give us the two links
[22:54] <persona24> . . . why did I not think of that?
[22:55] <bobweaver> !info pastebinit | persona24
[22:55] <_kevin> hmmm
[22:56] <bobweaver> !away | _kevin  Oo
[22:56] <persona24> bobweaver: I'm going to get out of full screen terminal . . . (if that's what you call it.) Can you send me that command again after I login irc with xterm?
[22:56] <bobweaver> sure persona24
[22:57] <persona24> bobweaver: What's the command?
[22:57] <bobweaver> ok persona24  hook up the ethernet so you can get network then sudo apt-get install pastebinit && lsmod |pastebinit && lspci -nn | pastebinit  then give us the two links
[22:58] <cihhan> anybody doing dynamic resource allocation on KVM?
[22:59] <persona24> bobweaver: Ok, so I'm still learning so excuse my lack of vocabulary. When I push tab for |pastebinit nothing happens. I've learn if tab does nothing the command won't do anything
[22:59] <bobweaver> because it is not installed yet the && caoncatinates the string
[22:59] <bobweaver> meaning that it ties togeather the commands
[22:59] <usr13> persona24: Do you know how to cut-and-paste?
[23:00] <usr13> persona24: You can just highlight desired text and hit middle mouse button.
[23:00] <persona24> usr13: . . . I feel like an idiot. . . I do know that haha
[23:00] <usr13> persona24: But now you know  :)
[23:01] <usr13> (we come here to learn....)
[23:02] <persona24> So I did the command and there is still no connectino
[23:02] <usr13> persona24: He said to hook up a wired connection first.
[23:02] <usr13> persona24: Hook up to ethernet
[23:03] <persona24> usr13: I did. So, the additional drivers just popped up. . . think that might do the job?
[23:03] <usr13> persona24: Maybe, I dono
[23:03] <bobweaver> sometimes depends there are bugs in jocky just like everything else
[23:03] <persona24> usr13: Yes it will! wireless driver is in the list
[23:04] <bobweaver> is it broadcom persona24
[23:04] <usr13> persona24: Since we do not know what hardware you have, we have no way of knowing anything more, (at this point).
[23:04] <persona24> bobweaver: yes
[23:04] <bobweaver> ok
[23:04] <bobweaver> persona24,  open terminal
[23:04] <usr13> persona24: lspci |grep ireless  #tell us what it is
[23:04] <bobweaver> lspci -nn | grep 14e4
[23:05] <bobweaver> -nn shows us the name and also the number persona24
[23:05] <bobweaver> the number on the card is the most imporant
[23:05] <usr13> persona24: Ok, do as bobweaver suggests....
[23:05] <persona24> Nothing happened
[23:06] <usr13> persona24: lspci |grep ireless  #tell us what it is
[23:06] <bobweaver> imposible I do not know of a broadcom card that is not 14e4
[23:06] <bobweaver> that is there calling mech
[23:07] <bobweaver> the kernel never lies ;)
[23:07] <persona24> No it doesn't but I did the command and it just went back to ~$:
[23:08] <bobweaver> huh      lspci -nn | grep 14e4          persona24  ?
[23:08] <usr13> persona24: Was that for me? Or for bobweaver?
[23:08] <GunArm> do crontabs only run when that user is logged in?
[23:08] <persona24> usr13: both. . . ?
[23:09] <usr13> persona24: Just do lspci  and see if you can find the line that identifies the wireless card.
[23:09] <bobweaver> GunArm,  depends mostly on if the computer is on and the group ad user are satisfied . kinda
[23:09] <persona24> 00:07.0 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1)
[23:09] <persona24> 00:08.0 PCI bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP67 PCI Bridge (rev a2)
[23:09] <persona24> 00:09.0 IDE interface: NVIDIA Corporation MCP67 AHCI Controller (rev a2)
[23:09] <persona24> 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: NVIDIA Corporation MCP67 Ethernet (rev a2)
[23:09] <persona24> 00:0c.0 PCI bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP67 PCI Express Bridge (rev a2)
[23:09] <persona24> 00:0d.0 PCI bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP67 PCI Express Bridge (rev a2)
[23:09] <persona24> 00:12.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C67 [GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M] (rev a2)
[23:09] <persona24> 00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
[23:09] <persona24> 00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
[23:09] <GunArm> persona24: pastebin!!!
[23:09] <persona24> 00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
[23:09] <usr13> !paste | persona24
[23:09] <persona24> 00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
[23:09] <persona24> 02:05.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 05)
[23:09] <persona24> 02:05.1 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 22)
[23:09] <persona24> 02:05.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 12)
[23:09] <persona24> 02:05.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev 12)
[23:09] <persona24> 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 02
[23:10] <szal> where's the flood protection gone?
[23:10] <bobweaver> you did not do -nn
[23:10] <GunArm> persona24: hi welcome to the internet
[23:10] <usr13> persona24: All you had to do is tell us it is BCM4311
[23:11] <bobweaver> usr13,  take a look at this and you will see why I ask for -nn linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43/
[23:11] <persona24> Well you told me to tell you what it said haha
[23:11] <MonkeyDust> persona24  don't hit enter too often, it gets a headache
[23:11] <GunArm> persona24: never, ever, ever paste like that into a channel
[23:11] <GunArm> you are lucky not to get kicked
[23:12] <usr13> bobweaver:  sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer;sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source
[23:12] <bobweaver> and the mod also ^^
[23:13] <usr13> bobweaver: mod?
[23:13] <persona24> I'm sorry guys, I've never posted anything that long before and I was wondering why it asked me. anyway,  Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 02) that's all it says about wireless
[23:13] <bobweaver> the driver b43-fwcutter
[23:13] <UnknownCharacter> !rules
[23:13] <bobweaver> !b43 | persona24
[23:14] <usr13> O
[23:14] <UnknownCharacter> !b43|Terminal
[23:15] <bobweaver> or I made a post on the forums to understand 100% what you are dealing with http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10796508
[23:15] <bobweaver> sorry persona24  ^^
[23:15] <bobweaver> persona24,  it is post #44
[23:15] <usr13> bobweaver:  sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer;sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source
[23:16] <bobweaver> b43fwcutter usr13
[23:16] <bobweaver> b43-fwcutter usr13  *
[23:18] <bobweaver> !info b43-fwcutter >> usr13
[23:20] <elijah> Hey guys, I am trying to add a bug to the 100 paper cuts project and when I click
[23:21] <elijah> Hey guys, I am trying to add a bug to the 100 paper cuts project and when I click "also affects project" it doesn't give me a place to add the project, only form fields for bugs. Any ideas?
[23:24] <j2daosh> is there somewhere that says a server can only have so many connections?
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> some services may limit the # at any one time.. how many are you talking about and what service?
[23:24] <gbear14275> has anyone here recently been suffering from system freezes or unexplained hard restarts... I've had 3 of these happen to me in the last month and would love to try and diagnose
[23:24] <j2daosh> i seem to be getting connection refused on my proxy which is busy processing requests. it will be that way for a few minutes and then it will work again
[23:25] <j2daosh> it's a default ubuntu install running squid and a web-server
[23:25] <gbear14275> Could anyone perhaps help me in pointing to some log files which might shed some light on the situation for me?
[23:25] <j2daosh> it looks like about every 15 minutes or so, my ssh connection will die and i will get refused for about 4-5 minutes and it will pick back up again
[23:26] <j2daosh> i'm not sure what log to start looking at to troubleshoot this but there is nothing in the auth.log about my connection being refused
[23:28] <j2daosh> it doesn't look like there are that many connections. about 20-40 at any given time (netstat -t|wc -l)
[23:31] <ev_> 'i have issues with unity, gnome 2D and 3D and compiz. anyone feel like tossing their hat in the ring?
[23:31] <Dr_Willis> toss out some details and see who can help
[23:31] <Gabit> Hi there, =) I have a file where I want to remove all other lines that do not contain two of my strings. Any resources in magic bag?
[23:31] <ev_> Dr_Willis: hey, ok... its a long story but....
[23:32] <gbear14275> What types of log messages might I look for to identify a hard restart or system freeze.  I just suffered my 3rd this month.
[23:33] <cihhan> can i use debian debs for ubuntu? im looking for xen-linux-systems but ubuntu doesnt have it whereas debian has it.
[23:33] <rypervenche> cihhan: I wouldn't.
[23:33] <GunArm> ok i still dont get it, does stuff in crontab -e run for only when that user is logged in?  I'm trying to set up the inadyn dynamic dns client to run on a headless server, where the user I am ttyed through will NOT be logged in most of the time
[23:34] <cihhan> rypervenche: it's weird why ubuntu doesnt have it :(
[23:34] <zykotick9> cihhan: mixing debian and ubuntu is NOT a good idea!
[23:34] <rypervenche> GunArm: crontab -eu username
[23:34] <cihhan> so, do you have any suggestions?
[23:34] <cihhan> i need xen-linux-system
[23:34] <meganerd> cihhan: are you looking for the hypervisor part?
[23:34] <bg> hey
[23:35] <cihhan> this is in addition to hypervisor
[23:35] <cihhan> im trying to install openstack
[23:35] <GunArm> rypervenche: is that to add a crontab for a different user? as in then *that* user would have to be loged in for it to work?
[23:35] <cihhan> i have a perfect instruction
[23:35] <cihhan> but it is for ubuntu
[23:35] <cihhan> and working great
[23:35] <cihhan> i want to run openstack on xen not kvm
[23:35] <ev_> started out trying to get the lame bar on the left to autohide, installed 'MyUnity'. That app told me i was on a '2D' desktop and it may not work. I logged out, changed to the full 3D WM. that bugged and crashed, it would load my wallpaper and desktop folders but no bars, no keyboard commands would work, open a term for eg.... now, no matter 2D or 3D compiz crashes. The bar is still stuck out interfearing with other windows. i have the compiz error 
[23:35] <cihhan> so i need to install xen too, but openstack requires xen-linux-system
[23:36] <meganerd> cihhan: ah, so you want to switch from kvm to xen?
[23:36] <cihhan> meganerd: yes for openstack
[23:36] <meganerd> cihhan: that I can't help with, I am not using xen anymore
[23:37] <xperiamaniac> hi
[23:37] <rypervenche> GunArm: What is it you're trying to add?
[23:37] <bg> Anyone there?
[23:37] <cihhan> meganerd: are you using kvm?
[23:37] <bg> everyone afk?
[23:37] <GunArm> rypervenche: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1758930 using this guide to set up afraid.org dynamic dns
[23:38] <GunArm> has the line : export EDITOR=gedit && sudo crontab -e
[23:38] <GunArm> i just want to make sure this wont ONLY work when my user is logged in
[23:38] <meganerd> cihhan: at home I am using virtualbox with some fancy shell scripts to autostart VMs
[23:39] <cihhan> meganerd: oh, i c
[23:39] <meganerd> cihhan: I am planning on moving to kvm sooner rather than later
[23:39] <cihhan> meganerd: do you know if kvm allows you to change the core numbers, memory on runtime dynamically?
[23:40] <rypervenche> GunArm: Doesn't matter if you're logged in as that user or not, the cron will run as that user.
[23:40] <ghostnik11> quick questions opengl is included in the ubuntu repos, correct?
[23:40] <meganerd> cihhan: I have not had the time to dig into it.  Ask me again in a month :)
[23:40] <GunArm> rypervenche: ok thanks! thats what I was wondering
[23:40] <ev_> Dr_Willis: fluxbox work fine...................
[23:40] <cihhan> meganerd: i should check that detailed :)
[23:40] <Dr_Willis> ev_:  i dont know what your origial issue is/was....
[23:41] <ev_> Dr_Willis: i made a long post....did you see that
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> ghostnik11:  basically yes...
[23:41] <Dr_Willis> ev_:  Nope.. baby sitting. ;)
[23:41] <ev_> Dr_Willis: look up top, i just sent it out
[23:42] <ghostnik11> Dr-Willis: any linux based OS can link to the ubuntu repos correct from their system?
[23:42] <ev_> Dr_Willis: im on 12.04 btw
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> ev_:   You do have the proper 3d video drivers installed?
[23:42] <Dr_Willis> ghostnik11:  yes basically.
[23:43] <ghostnik11> Dr_Willis, thanks
[23:44] <ev_> Dr_Willis: i would *assume* so, i take all the updates and everything else works fine.
[23:44] <Dr_Willis> ev_:  i would double check.. if it was defaulting to Unity2d - then it did not think you had 3d abilities..
[23:45] <Dr_Willis> i would also make a brand new user. and see if they have the same issues with unity3d and the panels.
[23:45] <j2daosh> so, what log can i look at to see wth is going on with the connections refused?
[23:45] <ev_> Dr_Willis: i know for a fact that i selected 2d from the login screen,  just forgot so when i ran MyUnity
[23:45] <ev_> Dr_Willis: been running 2d for a long time...months...
[23:46] <tek4> hi, i mess the bios of my mother board and cant use ubuntu any more. is there away to reinstalll the bios... live cd keep booting pc
[23:46] <TaJMoX> Is it possible for Nautilus to list Artist/Album information while browsing my MP3 collection? If not, is there a similar file browser that will do it? Currently, I'm having to use Windows EXPLORER.EXE ... and I think that's terrible, morally.
[23:47] <bobweaver> ev_,  myunity is not for 2d
[23:47] <bobweaver> TaJMoX,  try gnome sushi for a spin ?
[23:47] <bobweaver> gnome-sushi *
[23:48] <tek4> please anyone
[23:48] <bobweaver> but that will just play it and tell you all the stuff TaJMoX
[23:48] <TaJMoX> bobweaver will it allow me to add columns for Artist and Album?
[23:48] <TaJMoX> Oh.
[23:48] <TaJMoX> I need it in a column.
[23:49] <bobweaver> TaJMoX,  v.soon my friend v.soon
[23:49] <ev_> bobweaver: i get that now....but compiz still crashes now, no matter 2d or 3d...and the damn bar which is the root of all this is still stuck
[23:49] <bobweaver> ok ev_  press alt+ctrl+f1 then sign in and install pastebinti
[23:50] <bobweaver> pastebinit
[23:50] <bobweaver> sorry I hi my hand today *
[23:50] <bobweaver> TaJMoX,  what are you trying to do ?
[23:51] <bobweaver> you want glib to pick up fan art and name and album and what not ?
[23:51] <ev_> bobweaver: right now im on 2d and have full desktop functionallity, so no need to f1...but i will install patebininit
[23:51] <TaJMoX> bobweaver I have a huge amount of MP3 files, I need to sort them by Album so I can make folders for them
[23:51] <TaJMoX> bobweaver And I also need to sort them by other EXIF/ID3 data...
[23:51] <junnix> Hello
[23:51] <bobweaver> ahh TaJMoX  have you used the find command before?
[23:52] <TaJMoX> bobweaver Yes, but how would that allow me to search files embedded EXIF data?
[23:52] <bobweaver> ev_ can you open your terminal and type in        sudo find / -name 'Shell.qml' | pastebinit
[23:53] <bobweaver> that TaJMoX  needs googubutnu.com brb
[23:53] <TaJMoX> bobweaver for example, I have files called 0413980.mp3 and 47821.mp3 ... One is Bob Dylan, one is Pearl Jam. .... There are THOUSANDS of these, so sorting them by Artist is easy to drag-drop into the Pearl Jam folder (I can select all 75 Pearl Jam files if there was an Artist column)
[23:53] <bobweaver> ahh TaJMoX  what about a better media center ?
[23:54] <bobweaver> still would neeed renameing
[23:54] <bobweaver> TaJMoX,  ^^
[23:54] <TaJMoX> bobweaver this worked perfectly for me: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13407/how-to-add-columns-displaying-audio-and-photo-exif-metadata-information-into-n
[23:54] <bobweaver> Nice glade to know that are you all set then ?
[23:55] <TaJMoX> bobweaver now that I can separate the files, I can re-name them more easily. Yes I'm all set thanks =)
[23:55] <bobweaver> er ... TaJMoX ^^
[23:55] <TaJMoX> I don't have to use EXPLORER.EXE lol
[23:55] <ev_> bobweaver: space between find and / right?
[23:55] <bobweaver> rotflol
[23:55] <tek4> anyone
[23:55] <bobweaver> correct ev_
[23:56] <bobweaver> ev_,  you can copy and paste     sudo find / -name 'Shell.qml' | pastebinit
[23:57] <ev_> bobweaver: there is a compiz crash report telling me that "'precise' is no longer un development"
[23:57] <Umo111> GET OFF MY LAWN
[23:58] <deadmund> haha
[23:58] <ev_> bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1161802/
[23:59] <bobweaver> ev_,  cat usr/share/unity-2d/shell/Shell.qml | pastebinit       lets see if myubity did the same to you as it did to me :)
[23:59] <Dr_Willis> wouldent it be /usr/ ?
[23:59] <bobweaver> myunuity *