[00:57] <SkippersBoss> where can i find the list of applications shipped with XU 12.10 ??
[01:50] <bluesabre> http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/xubuntu-desktop
[01:51] <bluesabre> See the related packages
[01:51] <bluesabre> There's probably a better way to do that, using !ubottu
[01:52] <bluesabre> ^ SkippersBoss
[01:53] <bluesabre> (From earlier, in case the person I'm looking for missed it...)
[01:53] <bluesabre> Question... what needs to be in the .desktop file to add it to the Settings Manager?
[01:53] <bluesabre> I'm trying to add MenuLibre to the Settings Manager.  It currently is available in Ubuntu's Settings Manager too, so this string is quite long for that reason...
[01:53] <bluesabre> Categories=XFCE;GNOME;GTK;System;Settings;X-GNOME-Settings-Panel;X-GNOME-PersonalSettings;DesktopSettings;X-XFCE;
[01:56] <Unit193> Categories=GNOME;X-XFCE;Settings;DesktopSettings; Works for Xfce settings manager.
[11:12] <ochosi> mr_pouit: can we please pull this fix for abiword? http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13301
[11:15] <mr_pouit> :>
[11:19] <mr_pouit> ochosi: if it involves uploading a new snapshot, not for me before FF :3 (if it's just a patch I'll do it tonight after catfish & lightdm-gtk-greeter)
[11:24] <ochosi> mr_pouit: right, since i wasn't able to browse their svn online i don't know yet, couldn't look at the changes...
[11:25] <mr_pouit> indicator-sound (12.10.0-0ubuntu2) quantal; urgency=low
[11:25] <mr_pouit> * Drop GTK2 build since ido stopped providing support for that version
[11:25] <mr_pouit> one day before feature freeze \o/
[11:25] <ochosi> :(
[11:25] <mr_pouit> how nice
[11:25] <ochosi> a**holes
[11:26] <ochosi> so we have to drop indicator-sound i guess?
[11:26] <ochosi> or can we upload a separate version from 12.04?
[11:29] <mr_pouit> I've given up with seb128 a long time ago, I'll let knome talk with the release team
[11:30] <ochosi> mhm, sounds ok
[11:35] <mr_pouit> bah, that was scheduled
[11:36] <mr_pouit> that would have been better to remove them earlier ;>
[11:37] <ochosi> yeah, definitely
[11:37] <mr_pouit> I'm gonna hate Xfce for not moving to gtk3
[11:39] <ochosi> yes, we all will...
[11:39] <ochosi> and i think the longer 4.12 will take the more they'll feel like moving to gtk3 for 4.12 after all
[11:40] <ochosi> simply because gtk3 will feel more stable and consolidated then
[11:40] <ochosi> (it already is tbh)
[11:40] <ochosi> (although there are still theming issues with each new version)
[11:59] <micahg> mr_pouit: do you have time to upload the gtk2 indicator stack renamed at some point (with FFe even)?
[12:00] <mr_pouit> not before FF, but no problem otherwise
[12:00] <mr_pouit> micahg: ^
[12:00] <micahg> ok
[12:01] <ochosi> will it still work?
[12:01] <micahg> yeah
[12:01] <ochosi> hmkay
[12:01] <micahg> we're just bug/feature frozen
[12:01] <ochosi> are there more indicators that are dropping gtk2 support last minute?
[12:01] <micahg> well, assuming they didn't change the API in the latest version (which ted said they weren't going to do)
[12:02] <mr_pouit> ahahahah (sorry, it's nervous)
[12:59] <knome> humm?
[12:59] <SkippersBoss> yoga again ?
[13:00] <smartboyhw> yoga?
[13:00] <knome> SkippersBoss, this ain't -offtopic :P
[13:00] <smartboyhw> knome: Agree...
[13:01] <SkippersBoss> not enough coffee in my system I do apologise (again)
[13:17] <bluesabre> ochosi: For catfish, I suppose the desktop file patch could still apply, though I don't imagine that having "Encoding=UTF-8" in a desktop file would be a problem.  The other two patches are invalid.
[13:18] <mr_pouit> bluesabre: even the last one to prevent a crash?
[13:18] <mr_pouit> (Encoding=UTF-8 isn't an issue, it's deprecated, that's all)
[13:28] <bluesabre> mr_pouit: Ah, I should probably add that to the main code then.  I thought load_icon fell back on the missing image code.
[13:28] <bluesabre> We'll want to change the patch to work with python-gi
[13:29] <bluesabre> from gi._glib import GError
[13:29] <bluesabre> except GError
[13:33] <bluesabre> Here we go
[13:33] <bluesabre> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1160798/
[13:33] <bluesabre> mr_pouit ^
[13:35] <bluesabre> I can have that included for 0.4.0.1
[13:41] <mr_pouit> bluesabre: also, please exclude .bzr from your next tarball :)
[13:41] <bluesabre> Woops
[13:41] <bluesabre> I'll be sure to make a note of that
[13:42] <mr_pouit> thanks, I'll use the updated version of the patch when I upload the new catfish
[13:42] <bluesabre> mr_pouit, Are you going to update the patch or should I crank out a bugfix release?
[13:42] <mr_pouit> no, I can go with the patch, but if you're motivated enough for a new upstream release, do it :P
[13:43] <mr_pouit> (after all, that means less work for me)
[14:03] <bluesabre> mr_pouit, okay, you win.  0.4.0.1  https://launchpad.net/catfish-search
[14:53] <knome> anybody here for the meeting?
[14:54] <ochosi> o/
[14:56] <smartboyhw> o/
[14:57]  * genii-around makes coffee
[14:57] <ochosi> knome: if you don't have time and if there aren't too many -devs around for team-updates, what about a lightning meeting? (==15mins)
[14:58] <knome> yes, that sounds good
[14:58] <knome> let me get some clothes on first...
[14:59] <knome> #startmeeting Xubuntu comminty meeting
[14:59] <meetingology> Meeting started Wed Aug 22 14:59:17 2012 UTC.  The chair is knome. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[14:59] <knome> community too
[14:59] <knome> #meetingtopic Xubuntu community meeting
[15:00] <knome> #info this will be a lightning meeting for the lack of attendees and items in the agenda
[15:00] <bluesabre> \o/
[15:00] <knome> thus, we will not follow the usual agenda
[15:00] <knome> #topic Open action items
[15:01] <knome> #nick astraljava
[15:01] <knome> #action astraljava to look into disabling compositor on live CD 
[15:01] <meetingology> ACTION: astraljava to look into disabling compositor on live CD
[15:01] <knome> #action xubuntu-team to investigate adding a screenlocker 
[15:01] <meetingology> ACTION: xubuntu-team to investigate adding a screenlocker
[15:01] <knome> #action xubuntu-team to investigate default settings for monitor power management 
[15:01] <meetingology> ACTION: xubuntu-team to investigate default settings for monitor power management
[15:02] <knome> #action xubuntu-team to add launchers specified in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Quantal/SettingsManagerApps to xfce settings manager 
[15:02] <meetingology> ACTION: xubuntu-team to add launchers specified in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Quantal/SettingsManagerApps to xfce settings manager
[15:02] <knome> #action xubuntu-team to make sure other "settings" launchers will show up if needed 
[15:02] <meetingology> ACTION: xubuntu-team to make sure other "settings" launchers will show up if needed
[15:02] <knome> that's it
[15:02] <knome> #topic Other carried on items
[15:02] <knome> looks like many of these are astraljava's, skipping those since he isn't around
[15:03] <knome> #subtopic Strategy Document review
[15:03] <GridCube> ._.
[15:03] <knome> i know i promised to send yet another mail for reviewing the new SD
[15:03] <knome> i didn't, but you are free to raise issues now, as promised
[15:03] <knome> and we've really had quite a lot of time
[15:04] <bluesabre> woops, real meeting here
[15:04] <bluesabre> in the office
[15:04] <bluesabre> bbl
[15:04] <knome> exact wording might be revisited later, but is there any issues with the content?
[15:05] <ochosi> it's been a while since i read it, but i think i'm fine with it
[15:05] <GridCube> i havent seen any
[15:05] <knome> i haven't seen any been raised either, so..
[15:05] <GridCube> it seems pretty fine
[15:06] <knome> let's have a quick vote whatsoever
[15:06] <knome> +1 for yes, -1 for no
[15:06] <knome> #vote Approve new Strategy Document
[15:06] <meetingology> Please vote on: Approve new Strategy Document
[15:06] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[15:06] <ochosi> +1
[15:06] <meetingology> +1 received from ochosi
[15:06] <knome> -0, recusing myself as the main rewriter
[15:06] <knome> -0
[15:06] <knome> bah
[15:06] <knome> +0
[15:06] <meetingology> +0 received from knome
[15:06] <smartboyhw> +1
[15:06] <meetingology> +1 received from smartboyhw
[15:06] <knome> then...
[15:07] <GridCube> 0
[15:07] <meetingology> 0 received from GridCube
[15:07] <GridCube> i havent really apported to it so i cant comment further
[15:07] <knome> GridCube, if possible, can you take a stance?
[15:07] <GridCube> ok
[15:07] <GridCube> +1
[15:07] <meetingology> +1 received from GridCube
[15:07] <mr_pouit> +1
[15:07] <meetingology> +1 received from mr_pouit
[15:07] <knome> if you've read it and it looks fine, i'd think it as +1
[15:08] <knome> i'm mostly asking if there something like "i will get all the power i want" and you don't approve
[15:08] <knome> oops, it was like that before
[15:08] <knome> ;)
[15:08] <knome> anybody else up for voting on the new strategy document?
[15:09] <jjfrv8> Does the current version include my suggestions?
[15:09] <knome> jjfrv8, iirc, those are about wording, and such?
[15:09] <jjfrv8> Affirmative
[15:09] <knome> jjfrv8, i haven't been able to go through those yet, but i will do that before making it public
[15:09] <knome> so no, but will do
[15:09] <jjfrv8> :-)
[15:10] <knome> (grammar and that stuff isn't what we are voting, content is :))
[15:10] <jjfrv8> Sorry.
[15:10] <knome> no problem
[15:10] <knome> good to have that sorted
[15:10] <knome> #endvote
[15:10] <meetingology> Voting ended on: Approve new Strategy Document
[15:10] <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1
[15:10] <meetingology> Motion carried
[15:10] <smartboyhw> YEAH
[15:11] <knome> #action knome to make the new SD public after doing final review on grammar etc.
[15:11] <meetingology> ACTION: knome to make the new SD public after doing final review on grammar etc.
[15:11] <knome> #topic Team updates
[15:11] <knome> just go wild, let's not go by category
[15:11] <knome> (and please remember to use #info)
[15:12] <ochosi> #info greybird from git master should currently be bug-free with quantal
[15:12]  * knome is afk here and there, but will follow
[15:12] <ochosi> #info patches for gtk3.5 were pulled from the respective branch, plus a few new fixes. testing it is highly encouraged!
[15:12] <ochosi> #info bluebird and albatross need more testing
[15:13] <ochosi> #info parole got a new maintenance release (0.3.0.3) and catfish got a new release (0.4.0)
[15:13] <mr_pouit> #info fixed crash in Thunar; uploaded parole 0.3.0.[0123]; cleaned up xubuntu-artwork from pre-precise themes and stuff
[15:14] <mr_pouit> (will upload catfish tonight)
[15:16] <knome> #info bug #1001936 fixed for .1
[15:17] <knome> #info docs rewrite is going forward at http://dagobah.princessleia.com/Xubuntu/12.10
[15:17] <knome> #topic Announcements
[15:17] <knome> #info FEATURE FREEZE is TOMORROW (21UTC)
[15:18] <knome> #info USER INTERFACE FREEZE is Aug 30th
[15:18] <knome> #info BETA 1 FREEZE is Aug 30th
[15:18] <knome> #info 12.04.1 will be released TOMORROW
[15:18] <knome> #info all dates in the quantal (and precise SRU) schedule can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[15:19] <knome> #topic Other items
[15:23] <GridCube> no other topics?
[15:23] <bluesabre> #info keyboard-shortcuts-overlay will be postponed
[15:23] <bluesabre> Due to lack of time to test and finish it
[15:24] <knome> yeah, i suppose that's POSTPONED
[15:24] <knome> (the blueprint work items, and the BP)
[15:24] <bluesabre> Yeah, I'll try to update those shortly
[15:24] <knome> i thought i did that
[15:24] <knome> if they are not, feel free to
[15:25] <knome> :)
[15:25] <knome> #endmeeting
[15:25] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed Aug 22 15:25:25 2012 UTC.  
[15:25] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2012/xubuntu-devel.2012-08-22-14.59.moin.txt
[15:25] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2012/xubuntu-devel.2012-08-22-14.59.html
[15:25] <knome> thanks, and sorry
[15:25] <smartboyhw> Thanks
[15:25] <knome> i'll update the minutes later
[16:02] <pleia2> sorry I missed the meeting
[18:43] <mr_pouit> bluesabre: what modules does catfish need? (except python-gi which is mandatory)
[18:43] <mr_pouit> I don't get any result here :/
[18:44] <bluesabre> mr_pouit: I think that's the only required one
[18:44] <bluesabre> python-xdg is strongly recommended
[18:46] <mr_pouit> bluesabre: I think python-xdg is necessary to get any result :/
[18:47] <mr_pouit> if I uninstall it, no result at all
[18:47] <bluesabre> Ah
[18:47] <bluesabre> Then I suppose
[18:47] <bluesabre> python-xdg is required :)
[18:47] <mr_pouit> Any idea why?
[18:47] <bluesabre> xdg.Mime
[18:47] <bluesabre> to get the mimetype
[18:47] <bluesabre> to display the proper icon and such
[18:49] <mr_pouit> no, I mean: why do I get zero result without it? :P
[18:51] <bluesabre> Ah
[18:52] <bluesabre> One sec
[18:53] <bluesabre> Well, tbh, it's because of the new mimetype filter more than likely
[18:53] <bluesabre> Since mime=None more than likely
[18:54] <mr_pouit> okay, I'll move python-xdg to Depends
[18:54] <bluesabre> Thanks
[18:54] <bluesabre> I think that's the reason
[18:54] <bluesabre> But that should fix it :)
[19:15] <mr_pouit> bluesabre: and uploaded, thanks :)
[19:19] <bluesabre> Yay!
[21:17] <knome> alternate images for .1 have been rebuilt.
[21:17] <knome> (should be.)