[00:48] <ludixbossyone> q
[00:49] <ludixbossyone> bullshittt
[00:53] <ludixbossyone> hui
[00:55] <ludixbossyone> q
[00:57] <ludixbossyone> l
[01:19] <dj_segfault> Can anyone tell me what version of MythTV is in 12.04LTS?
[01:20] <TheMaster> !info mythtv
[01:33] <dj_segfault> Thank you TheMaster
[03:56] <phiscribe> anybody using gimp ppa in kubunut? does it break anything? i hate ppa's. but if i want gimp 2.8, ill either have to use ppa or wait till october.  (12.04)
[07:05] <phiscribe> how can i KILL the popus, i tried to import a bunch of contacts and im getting a failed message for each one, its beein going for five minutes, there where hundreds
[07:05] <phiscribe> the infor popups that is, kill the whole plasma desktop? or something else?
[07:06] <phiscribe> ah nm it reached teh end finaly
[07:33] <cooper_> Hi, someone could help me? My iphone is mount as a camera, I have really no idee how to change that. I found something on the net : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=978623 (thread from sirzubov) but I don't know how to create a fdi file like he asked to do.
[07:37] <cooper_> nobody? :(
[07:48] <Torch> cooper_: this is most certainly outdated information
[07:49] <Torch> cooper_: hal is not being used anymore, it was replaced by udev
[07:49] <cooper_> Torch: Hum ok ok, well. Gonna continue to search on the web. I really found nothing else to fix my problem
[07:49] <Torch> cooper_: you need to find udev rules that do the same as the xml did for hal
[07:49] <cooper_> ok nice, gonna search that
[07:50] <Torch> cooper_: also, the forum thread is about preventing the iphone from being found _at all_. is that what you really want?
[07:51] <cooper_> ah euh no!
[07:51] <cooper_> Torch: I just want to mount my iphone not as a camera but as an iphone
[07:51] <Torch> cooper_: let me guess... you'd like to mount your phone as a mass storage device?
[07:51] <cooper_> Torch: Because right now, Amarok doesn't see my phone
[07:51] <Torch> cooper_: i wouldn't be surprised if apple jsut wouldn't let you do that
[07:51] <Torch> cooper_: does amarok handle iphones?
[07:52] <Torch> cooper_: i thought apple encrypted their stuff these days
[07:52] <cooper_> Torch: I read everywere that amarok can do that
[07:52] <susundberg> i guess if its mass storage one can play music from there ..
[07:52] <susundberg> oh that might be true Torch
[07:52] <cooper_> Torch: Oh I understand... You must have right... The fucking maj just arrive before I install ubuntu
[07:53] <cooper_> Torch: So they are no way to put my music on my iphone with kubuntu?
[07:53] <Torch> cooper_: i have no experience of my own with iphones, but my guess would be, unless you wnat to use itunes under wine (which i have heard works), no
[07:54] <cooper_> I don't want to install windows just to put music on my phone :P And I tried to install iTunes (hate that shit) by wine and play on linux but no sucess
[07:54] <Unit193> !iphone
[07:54] <Unit193> cooper_: Please do keep it family friendly.
[07:54] <Smurphy> I have tried to control my iPod Touch 4G under KUbuntu/Amarok. Won't work. The iPod Touch 2G of my wife works just fine.
[07:55] <Smurphy> They have encrypted the File system on IOS 5.x - so in case you can put an older version on it - it should work.
[07:55] <hateball> The lesson to be learned here is to buy Linux-friendly hardware.
[07:55] <Smurphy> same applies to iPhones BTW.
[07:55] <Smurphy> ack.
[07:55] <Torch> or at least no locked down devices.
[07:56] <cooper_> hateball: You can't imagine how i regrest to buy a iPhone but I did it before even try linux. I was on the darkness :P
[07:56] <cooper_> Older version... Hum... No bad idee
[07:57] <cooper_> But I guess is very hard with apple to go back
[07:57] <hateball> Either way, I was under the impression Amarok and others handled iStuff, but that might only apply to iPods?
[07:58] <Torch> hateball: at some point apple began locking down communication to their gadgets and encrypting it all...
[07:58] <hateball> Torch: I see
[07:58] <Torch> hateball: that's why the older devices work but the newer don't
[07:58] <hateball> I've never owned a piece of Apple hardware, for certain reasons
[07:58] <cooper_> Hateball: Like Torch and Smurphy said. It must be the new update of the 5.1.1
[07:59] <cooper_> hateball: You have right, apple is worst than windows right now
[07:59] <Tm_T> cooper_: kind note to watch the language (:
[07:59] <cooper_> In french we had something very funny about apple windows and linux, don't know if you will understand but it's so true. Let me find it.
[08:00] <hateball> It's all quite offtopic, and wont help you connect Kubuntu to it
[08:00] <hateball> :)
[08:00] <cooper_> ok ok
[08:00] <cooper_> Gonna keep that for myself :P
[08:01] <hateball> That said, Android devices with ICS+ arent much fun either, using MTP instead of Mass Storage
[08:01] <cooper_> Well, right now I have two choice. Go back to an older version or try again with itunes via wine. Right?
[08:01] <Torch> hateball: but that's just because linux' support for mtp is totally unstable and immature
[08:01] <hateball> Torch: Yes, agreed.
[08:02] <Torch> hateball: these can be worked with, someone just has to write the code (and make it stable for daily use)
[08:02] <Torch> cooper_: i do think itunes works with wine, but check their app db
[08:02] <hateball> I just use bluetooth or scp, problem worked around ;b
[08:03] <cooper_> Torch: If I found any other solution than use itunes I would be very happy :P
[08:03]  * Smurphy never tried iTunes with wine ... Would be fun though.
[08:03] <Torch> Smurphy: it obviously won't make itunes _better_ ;-)
[08:04] <Smurphy> Still have Mac Os-X on my mac mini - specifically for iTunes. All iPhoto stuff moved/migrated to digikam already. But it was not a perfect migration. Much of hand work involved.
[08:04] <Smurphy> Torch: full ack.
[08:06] <Torch> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347 -- looks bad though... from reading the entries, raiting should be "garbage" throughout on newer versions
[08:11] <cooper_> Gonna sleep :P Thanks for all the advice. Know far better what's wrong now :)
[08:11] <cooper_> Good night
[09:58] <dschens> is their any possibility to close thunderbird to the notification area
[10:10] <hateball> dschens: I guess you could try your luck with alltray
[10:10] <hateball> Note, I havent actually used this recently myself
[10:10] <dschens> kk
[10:11] <dschens> thx
[10:11] <dschens> guess their is no native way?
[10:13] <BreoganGal> hola/hello?
[10:16] <gry> hi
[10:16] <BreoganGal> spanis?
[10:16] <gry> one moment
[10:17] <gry> #kubuntu-es && #ubuntu-es
[10:17] <gry> mind that this channel is larger; if you do not get a reply there, just ask here in simple english
[10:18] <BreoganGal> kubuntu install on a computer, and start it the screen goes dark
[10:18] <BreoganGal> is that in the other channel no one, jje
[10:18] <gry> see any error message text?
[10:18] <gry> or no error messages?
[10:19] <BreoganGal> no messages
[10:19] <gry> ok, good question; please wait
[10:20] <BreoganGal> with ctrt + alt-f2 between the console
[10:23] <gry> can you login in console?
[10:23] <nandhu> .
[10:23] <gry> hello nandhu
[10:24] <BreoganGal> yes
[10:24] <gry> hateball: pokes, please troubleshoot dark screen on startup for this folk; i have no idea
[10:24] <BreoganGal> I become root?
[10:24] <gry> BreoganGal: what user do you login as?
[10:25] <BreoganGal> installed kubuntu
[10:25] <BreoganGal> at boot screen and the system loads the screen goes black
[10:26] <susundberg> BreoganGal: sounds like trouble with graphics
[10:26] <susundberg> are you using nvidia card?
[10:26] <BreoganGal> yes
[10:27] <BreoganGal> but I have ubuntu on another pc and also with nvidia and 0 problems
[10:27] <gry> what kubuntu version?
[10:27] <susundberg> different versions of kubuntu and nvidia might make thing more complicated than just brands
[10:28] <BreoganGal> 12.04
[10:28] <BreoganGal> umm ... but above probe to boot from the cd and it worked
[10:29] <susundberg> so you booted the same machine with live-cd of 12.04 and it worked fine?
[10:30] <BreoganGal> yes
[10:30] <BreoganGal> I do not understand why
[10:30] <susundberg> i guess the installer or similar installed other drivers than what you used on cd
[10:31] <BreoganGal> umm .. any ideas?
[10:32] <susundberg> have you waited after the blank screen appears say 2min if the login shows up?
[10:33] <susundberg> and do you know the excat model of the display driver
[10:33] <BreoganGal> Logging out, but advances and plof
[10:33] <susundberg> sorry could you say that again, i do not understand
[10:34] <susundberg> i mean i am now under the impression that you boot machine and then you maybe have bios shown up and then ubuntu starts to boot and screen goes blank and nothing happens after that
[10:34] <BreoganGal> umm ... a moment
[10:35] <BreoganGal> nothing happens after loading the user
[10:36] <susundberg> you mean after you have logged in with user and password?
[10:38] <BreoganGal> yes
[10:38] <susundberg> so the login screen shows up properly?
[10:39] <susundberg> then its not display driver option but something is wrong with your KDE
[10:40] <BreoganGal> are helping me by the Spanish-language channel that is easier, right? thanks also
[10:41] <susundberg> yeah, that sounds wise. happy fixing
[11:36] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:42] <decci> I want to configure puppet for JBOSS.Anyone experience?
[11:42] <Matisse> hi
[11:44] <decci> Matisse: Hi
[11:44] <Matisse> need some help to find help :)  since today my spam filter addon of claws mail disappeared... but I start by my own, trying to reinstall the package...
[11:44] <Matisse> although that should not work...
[11:46] <Matisse> so, bogofilter package is still installed
[11:47] <Matisse> ah... gotcha
[11:47] <Matisse> starting 2 claws-mail session did the mistake... readding the addons did help
[11:47] <Matisse> hopefully nothing else is wrong
[12:12] <valentina> ciao
[12:12] <valentina> !list
[12:17] <BluesKaj> !it | valentina
[13:06] <leo-the-manic> Is there an option to make the Kickoff favorites automatically populated based on your most frequently launched apps? Like in Windows 7?
[13:15] <BluesKaj> leo look in the kmenu "recently used " option , dunno if you can make them stick but you can add them to favs
[13:15] <BluesKaj> leo-the-manic, ^
[13:16] <leo-the-manic>    BluesKaj yeah I saw the recently menu, wasn't quite what I had in mind though
[13:18] <leo-the-manic> BluesKaj: dunno if you're familiar with the Win7 menu but it's not most recent, instead it tracks the windows you open most frequently so for example even if I don't mark GVim as favorite it'll sooner or later show up in that menu because I use it so often
[14:21] <onebitX> hi to all
[14:22] <onebitX> i wanto to install open source wireless driver how can i do it?
[14:24] <DeadTOm> Good Morning
[14:26] <Smurphy> If the system does not recognize your Wireless Card - try adding the non open source drivers
[14:27] <onebitX> it recognize it but i want teh opensource for the spiriti of freedom
[14:40] <onebitX> spirit
[14:41] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[15:29] <sefik> selam
[15:29] <Smurphy> ehlan
[16:16] <raymears> hi people. i am experiencing a weird issue and have been for quite a while now, ever since the upgrade to 12.04 in.. april, when it came out.
[16:17] <raymears> the problem is: if the browser (chrome or chromium) is open, and i try to listen to music (in amarok) or watch videos (vlc/dragon) or even skype (!) it occasionally - every 30sec~1m i get a hiccup
[16:18] <raymears> more precisely... it is basically a half a second long bit of the sound that was playing.. which gets repeated about 3 times.
[16:19] <raymears> it was funny at first, because it sounded a bit like hip-hop, especially in skype. but it gets really annoying after a while
[16:20] <raymears> any idea what it might be? it didn't go away after i upgraded to kde 4.9 from backports. so... i am guessing it has something to do with main infrastructural aspects...
[16:31] <Peace-> raymears: try kill pulse
[16:32] <Peace-> kill pulseadui
[16:32] <Peace-> kill pulseaudio
[16:32] <raymears> and then?
[16:32] <raymears> cause i remember i can't start pulse from the console
[16:33] <Peace-> raymears: just try if it does the same
[16:33] <raymears> oh. it automatically starts a new process. ok
[16:33] <raymears> let's see
[16:35] <raymears> well.. it will probably work...because what i used to do whenever i wanted to watch a movie.. i would logout, restart x and login again..
[16:36] <raymears> as long as i would not start the browser it would work.. no issues whatsoever. so restarting pulse.. (which i had not thought of) will spare me the relogin
[16:37] <raymears> but it does not fix the underlying problem, does it?
[16:37] <Peace-> raymears: pulse audio for some audio card is a pain
[16:37] <raymears> i mean. it persist across reboots and stuff. so... hmm...
[16:37] <Peace-> i have problem too with jack
[16:37] <Peace-> i mean jackd
[16:37] <Peace-> i need to kill pulse to get the audio into the flash stuff
[16:38] <Peace-> or i have to remove jackd
[16:38] <raymears> i have a middle of the road HDA Intel (ALC889 Digital)
[16:39] <raymears> so i am not expecting any issues with the hardware. it is as mainstream as ...bread
[16:42] <BluesKaj> raymears, your sn_hda_intel module should work if it's loaded and indexed in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[16:43] <BluesKaj> err snd_hda_intel
[16:44] <raymears> well, the sound card works perfectly
[16:44] <raymears> it is just that someone along the way.. probably pulse... mucks stuff up
[16:45] <BluesKaj> Peace-, if you installed all the defaults , then you have pulseaudio
[16:45] <raymears> and i use pulse
[16:45] <BluesKaj> raymears, rather ^
[16:46] <raymears> no more alsa since.. 2010 or something, whenever ubuntu first switched to it. stuck with it. works best for me. had no issues up til today
[16:46] <BluesKaj> Peace-, have you tried webaudio (flash) without pulse ?
[16:47] <BluesKaj> raymears, you probly have alsa since pulse rides on top of it as a sound server for all audio
[16:47] <raymears> really?
[16:47] <BluesKaj> yes
[16:48] <BluesKaj> type alsamixer in the terminal
[16:48] <raymears> i thought it was one or the other, that they were mutually exclusive
[16:48] <BluesKaj> not at all they depend on each other in many situations
[16:48] <raymears> http://www.ehow.com/info_10053847_difference-between-alsa-pulseaudio.html yeah
[16:48] <maco> alsa is the driver layer
[16:48] <BluesKaj> yup
[16:48] <maco> pulseaudio is a user-space layer on top
[16:49] <maco> it can also be on top of bluez for bluetooth sound devices, for example
[16:49] <maco> alsalib exists as well, as the connector between the driver and userspace. some applications use alsalib directly, but pulseaudio can pass that stuff through
[16:49] <Peace-> BluesKaj: i need pulseaudio because google video talks needs it
[16:50] <Peace-> so wehn it doens't work i just kill it once after login
[16:50] <BluesKaj> I'm trying to find a way to run my soundcard strictly on alsa , I can do so with my pc audio , but not web audio that uses flash
[16:50] <raymears> ok, learnt something new today :) thanks guys
[16:50] <maco> (pulse only emulates a subset of alsalib's giant interface of doom, however. there is a list somewhere of the "safe subset" which also kinda boils down to "the parts of alsalib that are still maintained and regularly tested" so...straying from them is a bad idea with or without pulse)
[16:50] <raymears> btw, the issue seems to persist. amarok is doing it's hiccup thingy again.
[16:50] <Peace-> BluesKaj: well i would really killl pulse but i need it for video chat :D
[16:51] <Peace-> raymears: tried phonon-backend-vlc ?
[16:51] <raymears> it has no bloody equalizer for amarok
[16:51] <Peace-> raymears: systemsettinsg> multimedia> advanced > backends
[16:51] <Peace-> raymears: you need to install it before
[16:51] <raymears> i did try it on my laptop
[16:52] <raymears> the 0.6 version
[16:52] <Peace-> ok :D
[16:52] <Peace-> no ideas
[16:52] <Peace-> then
[16:52]  * GirlyGirl remembers the countless times she has seen a pulseaudio discussion in here
[16:52] <Peace-> now i have to go bye bye  BluesKaj
[16:52] <raymears> i have not tried it on the desktop though. sorry. the laptop is irelevant, cause i don't have the issue on there
[16:52] <BluesKaj> Peace-, well it seems alsa devel has kind of fallen behind since pulse became default , now more and more hardware depends on pulse to direct it's IO
[16:53] <raymears> bye, thanks
[16:53] <BluesKaj> bye Peace-
[16:54] <raymears> weird. i might give vlc a try and see if i can manage without the equalizer in amarok.
[16:55] <BluesKaj> amarok has become too much for me ..reminds me of wmp ...tries to too much that I don't want or need
[16:55] <BluesKaj> to do too much
[16:56] <raymears> hmm.. i use basic functionality
[16:56] <BluesKaj> there's that word again ...covers a whole host of meanings , but sounds so techy :)
[16:57] <raymears> i agree that there is a lot of bloat.
[16:57] <raymears> but i still like it. for its collection browser mainly
[16:57] <raymears> performance has improved alot... but i was astonished
[16:57] <raymears> that 2.6 added only features i don't use
[16:58] <BluesKaj> odd , most ppl like playlists I hate them , they interfere too much ...vlc works for me tho
[16:58] <raymears> not playlists. collection browser. allows me to basically do queries on my collection and create playlists on the fily
[17:00]  * BluesKaj shrugs ..not my cuppa tea
[17:01] <raymears>  i love dynamic playlists and the fact that the song ratings i provide... are taken into account to generate interesting new playlists.
[17:01] <raymears> quite nice.
[17:01] <raymears> gotta go now.
[17:01] <raymears> thanks for the support
[17:01] <raymears> bye
[17:01] <FloodBotK1> raymears: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:01] <BluesKaj> I'm old fashioned ...still have some vinyl and a turntable in myaudio system
[17:20] <BadDesign> Will Kubuntu have a 12.04.1 release?
[17:23] <BluesKaj> BadDesign, https://wiki.kubuntu.org/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu
[17:43] <PasNox> Hi
[17:43] <PasNox> i can't found LibreOffice Database application in kubuntu ?? why i can't find/installl it ?
[17:47] <genii-around> !info libreoffice-base
[17:51] <neta> hi
[17:52] <neta> i have a problem- i need a dictionary, so i downloaded stardict and goldendict, but i didn't succeed to use dictionarys that i downloaded from babylon
[17:57] <PasNox> thanks i found it :)
[18:01] <neta> i have a problem- i need a dictionary, so i downloaded stardict and goldendict, but i didn't succeed to use dictionarys that i downloaded from babylon
[18:44] <kbroulik> hi there. there's an issue with kubuntu default settings: the kwin default settings contain and enable the TabBox effect which is no longer supported in 4.9 causing various problems when using different window switchers
[19:05] <kbroulik> wherre can I report bugs to Kubuntu?
[19:12] <genii-around> !bug
[19:15] <systemclient> how can I boot into console from a Kubuntu Live CD?
[19:39] <BluesKaj> systemclient, from the desktop or login , ctrl+alt+F1
[19:40] <BluesKaj> or finf the konsole in the kmenu>apps>system
[19:46] <systemclient> BluesKaj: That only works when KDM is already started. The machine I wanted to do that on is a pentium 3, so I guess KDM is overkill.
[19:47] <systemclient> BluesKaj: I already diagnosed a hardware defect, so I am done with that computer by now
[19:47] <BluesKaj> what HW defect?
[19:50] <BluesKaj> systemclient, you can always use xubuntu , it has the light weight xfce desktop
[19:52] <systemclient> BluesKaj: grub does not load since it cannot find the hard drive. and the HDD makes very weird sounds
[19:53] <systemclient> BluesKaj: and the computer just did not start anymore from one day to another, sounds like hdd defect to me
[19:53] <systemclient> BluesKaj: lubuntu should be even lighter I think
[19:53] <BluesKaj>  do you see the BIOS page ?
[19:53] <BluesKaj> systemclient, ^
[19:54] <systemclient> BluesKaj: yep
[19:54] <systemclient> BluesKaj: but I could not get into the BIOS, since it just hammered the hard drive for minutes and nothing happend
[19:55] <BluesKaj> ok , then the mobo is probly ok , ...ry swapping in a hdd , even an old 5 or6G one if you have it
[19:55] <systemclient> BluesKaj: I'll have to do that tomorrow. I do not have any ATA drives around, the owner said he has some
[19:55] <BluesKaj> then run the live cd again
[19:56] <systemclient> BluesKaj: I guess I'll just go ahead and install the system onto that new harddrive
[19:56] <BluesKaj> a P3 can run linux just fine if you have enough RAM  and HDD space
[19:57] <systemclient> BluesKaj: the Debian 6 with LXDE worked fine so far
[19:57]  * BluesKaj nods
[19:57] <systemclient> BluesKaj: I guess lubuntu would do fine as well
[19:57] <BluesKaj> yes
[19:57] <BluesKaj> how much memory , systemclient ?
[19:58] <systemclient> BluesKaj: no idea. ThinkWiki says that it has either 128 MB or 256 MB
[19:58] <BluesKaj> ok , that's default for those pcs ..256 I think
[19:59] <systemclient> BluesKaj: either way, I'll just replace the HDD, slap another Debian or Ubuntu onto it and it should be back. Thanks for your help!
[20:00] <BluesKaj> I ran slackware on an old pc . forgot the cpumkaer , but it had only 128mb ram and 233mhz cpu
[20:01] <BluesKaj> systemclient, np , good luck ..it's cool to see old pcs resurrected by a linux install :)
[20:44] <gini> loool
[22:21] <goodtime> im to scared to try to partition my hdd so i can install win7 pro
[22:22] <goodtime> i have this kubunutu 12.04 install working great
[22:36] <noname120> hai guys
[22:37] <noname120> I m having issues getting my b43 wireless chip working on kubuntu, but this works on backtrack-linux do you have an idea how to get it working ?
[22:44] <goodtime> ok so i like kubuntu better
[22:45] <goodtime> and the plasma gui