| chuck_ | anybody here familiar with initramfs? So i was trying install 10.04 on a netbook and it got hung on 95% of the installation forever so like an impatient kid I yanked it out of the usb port.how do i get the usb flash to install? | 05:24 |
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| chuck_ | anybody familiar with initramfs? | 05:29 |
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| babyface | found a bug on quantal aternate i386 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1040427 | 05:48 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 1040427 in debian-installer "oem/lvm installation of quantal alternate i386 iso failed : Unable to locate package python-couchdb , subunit , python-subunit , python-junitxml" [Undecided,New] | 05:48 |
| skaet | slangasek, ^ | 06:16 |
| skaet | if you're alert enough, can you look at it? otherwise maybe cjwatson can look? | 06:17 |
| brendand | i am trying to do a net install on some servers, and it seems like since yesterday, dhcp configuration is failing | 08:07 |
| brendand | is anyone aware of this | 08:07 |
| gema_ | cjwatson: I have a problem with LTS-LTS upgrade that skaet asked me to do yesterday night | 08:34 |
| gema_ | cjwatson: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1040494 | 08:34 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 1040494 in ubuntu "Unable to upgrade from Lucid to Precise 12.04.1" [Critical,New] | 08:34 |
| gema_ | cjwatson: I have the sneaky feeling that my 16 GB USB may be the culprit and I need to reinstall lucid and try with a 2GB one | 08:35 |
| gema_ | cjwatson: but before that I wonder if you need any further information | 08:35 |
| cjwatson | I'm buried in a stack of quantal livefs build failures - can somebody else look? | 08:37 |
| cjwatson | You need to at least extract some useful logs from that, I think - the screenshots are pretty generic | 08:38 |
| gema_ | cjwatson: ok, I was trying not to connect to internet because of the test case I was running, now that it has aborted I will run apport to colect more logs | 08:38 |
| gema_ | cjwatson: added all the dist-upgrade folder for reference | 08:52 |
| * mpt wonders where xnox is | 11:44 | |
| smartboyhw | mpt: Sleeping:) | 11:44 |
| smartboyhw | LOL | 11:44 |
| smartboyhw | Anyway xnox's here, mpt:) | 11:54 |
| * xnox irc's been broken. | 11:54 | |
| mpt | The summons worked! | 11:54 |
| xnox | need to read backlog. | 11:54 |
| xnox | what's up? | 11:54 |
| mpt | xnox, how is your installer work going? Do you need any design clarifications or other help? | 11:55 |
| smartboyhw | xnox: Why isn't there a Wubi channel in IRC, btw.. | 11:55 |
| xnox | mpt: yeap. there is the question of shortening "fair password" to just "fair" that I've emailed you about. | 11:55 |
| xnox | mpt: and the encryption settings, that I didn't email you about. one moment. | 11:56 |
| mpt | Sorry, xnox, I forgot about the passwords mail. | 11:58 |
| xnox | mpt: that's ok. it was a bit out of the blue =) | 11:58 |
| xnox | mpt: also, have you seen the "gnome accounts" dialog? They put the password strength "progress bar" & Label between the two passwords. | 11:59 |
| xnox | and the progress bar has like 4 sections with colors, and then just short strings. | 11:59 |
| cjwatson | smartboyhw: We don't need a separate channel for every separate bit of software. | 11:59 |
| mpt | xnox, replied. | 12:00 |
| xnox | mpt: cool. Let me get you the settings. | 12:00 |
| mpt | xnox, no, I haven't seen that one | 12:00 |
| xnox | mpt: encryption settings that is. Yet, it's not sent yet. | 12:01 |
| mpt | I meant the Gnome Accounts dialog | 12:01 |
| xnox | oh. ok. | 12:07 |
| xnox | mpt: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/WNInNZFmc08H2xuZ4DJ5pcjnfn85PTV3DlClUSiESgU?feat=directlink | 12:10 |
| xnox | mpt: it has much stronger, e.g. stuff that ubiquity considers "strong password" might be just "fair password" in the accounts dialog. | 12:10 |
| mpt | xnox, wow, that's hideous. | 12:42 |
| xnox | mpt: is that your official review of Quantal? =) | 12:43 |
| brendand | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/1040627 | 12:43 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 1040627 in debian-installer "DHCP autoconfiguration fails on servers since 20120822 image" [Undecided,New] | 12:43 |
| mpt | One password field shorter than the other two, an outline that (in total) is thicker than the actual meter color, and a button disguised as a link. | 12:43 |
| mpt | Oh, and missing colons for all those labels. | 12:43 |
| xnox | mpt: it might be our theming issue (probably not) | 12:43 |
| xnox | ev: will you review geonames merge and/or deploy it? unless deployment goes via RT.... | 12:49 |
| ev | xnox: a pols, I haven't gotten to that review yet today | 12:49 |
| ev | deployment goes via RT | 12:49 |
| xnox | ev: ok. cool. =) | 12:50 |
| cjwatson | brendand: I'll see if I can reproduce it in kvm | 12:50 |
| xnox | ev: i just ponder if it is relevant to deploy it soon, e.g. for 12.04.1 release ;-) =) | 13:13 |
| ev | xnox: I suspect not. It's been this way for quite a while | 13:13 |
| ev | and 12.04.1 is being released today | 13:13 |
| ev | it's already too late | 13:13 |
| xnox | fair enough =))))) | 13:13 |
| cjwatson | brendand: Hm. Works in KVM, at least. | 13:36 |
| gema_ | did you guys have time to look at bug 1040494? | 13:36 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1040494 in update-manager "Unable to perform cdromupgrade without network from Lucid to Precise 12.04.1 AMD64 : E:Could not perform immediate configuration on 'python-minimal'" [Critical,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040494 | 13:36 |
| gema_ | it's impacting 12.04.1 | 13:37 |
| cjwatson | Well, it's not really anything to do with the installer - you want somebody with time to dig into upgrade bits | 13:37 |
| brendand | cjwatson, yes - i can't reproduce anywhere else. if i try mondays image though, it works | 13:37 |
| gema_ | cjwatson: in which channel? | 13:37 |
| cjwatson | Not sure, sorry. You could ask on -release | 13:37 |
| gema_ | cjwatson: ack | 13:37 |
| brendand | gema_, talk to mvo if he's around | 13:37 |
| cjwatson | mvo is mostly consumer apps these days. | 13:38 |
| brendand | cjwatson, you're right | 13:38 |
| cjwatson | Though in former days that would certainly have been the right answer. | 13:38 |
| brendand | cjwatson, i wonder who's looking after update-manager now? | 13:38 |
| cjwatson | Foundations in general | 13:39 |
| cjwatson | At some point I think we hope to get a bit more headcount to dedicate more specifically to it | 13:39 |
| cjwatson | brendand: Ah, I see it on real hardware - my guess would be regression due to biosdevname | 13:44 |
| cjwatson | Sigh | 13:44 |
| brendand | oh phew | 13:44 |
| brendand | cjwatson, sorry. i'm just relieved it's not something stupid in our lab setup | 13:44 |
| cjwatson | Yeah, you'd just only have seen it on some machines because biosdevname only does anything for some systems | 13:48 |
| cjwatson | brendand: Do you by any chance happen to have old syslogs from installs on the same machine lying around? It'd be slightly helpful to compare with what I have here | 13:50 |
| brendand | cjwatson, most recent image i can use is alpha2 | 13:51 |
| cjwatson | That's fine | 13:51 |
| brendand | cjwatson, ok i will get one | 13:51 |
| cjwatson | Much appreciated, thanks | 13:51 |
| cjwatson | Wait, I'm an idiot, the ethernet cable isn't plugged in here | 13:52 |
| smartboyhw | :) | 13:52 |
| cjwatson | Works better if you etc. | 13:52 |
| cjwatson | Let me try again ... | 13:53 |
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| cjwatson | brendand: OK, false alarm - it works fine here :-( | 13:56 |
| cjwatson | With biosdevname renaming the interface | 13:56 |
| brendand | oh noez | 13:56 |
| cjwatson | So I think I'm going to need some way to get at your logs - do you have any kind of physical access or is this all remote? | 13:56 |
| brendand | yes there is kvm access | 13:56 |
| cjwatson | Hm. Do you have any way to get a USB stick plugged in? | 13:57 |
| cjwatson | Failing that, if you can reproduce the failure, Alt-F2, nano -v /var/log/syslog, and successively screenshot the log? | 13:57 |
| brendand | cjwatson, see Remove KVM section here: https://wiki.canonical.com/InformationInfrastructure/IS/ServerEnablement | 13:58 |
| cjwatson | Assuming Alt-F2 works | 13:58 |
| brendand | cjwatson, Remote KVM that is | 13:58 |
| cjwatson | Yeah, um, in theory I think I have that set up but I'm leaving for holiday in ~3/4 hours | 13:58 |
| cjwatson | And the proxy stuff takes me an hour to figure out every time I do it :) | 13:59 |
| cjwatson | (Which is about once a year) | 13:59 |
| brendand | cjwatson, let me see how fast the usb stick option can be achieved | 14:01 |
| cjwatson | I dunno, let me see if foxyproxy is less painful than it used to be | 14:01 |
| cjwatson | brendand: OK, what machine am I looking at here? | 14:06 |
| cjwatson | If this thing will condescend to unhang my browser | 14:07 |
| brendand | cjwatson, it's called wildpeach | 14:08 |
| brendand | cjwatson, i just need to release it | 14:08 |
| cjwatson | I'm pretty sure it's hung my browser | 14:09 |
| cjwatson | The Raritan window has had a spinner going for several minutes now | 14:09 |
| cjwatson | And java is using >95% CPU | 14:09 |
| cjwatson | Which I realise is java's natural state, but | 14:09 |
| cjwatson | So if you might be able to take a screenshot of the last few pages of syslog, that might well be faster than whatever undefined thing I need to do to fix this | 14:10 |
| cjwatson | Yeah, killed my browser | 14:12 |
| brendand | cjwatson, ok. this is the end of the log: http://ubuntuone.com/0xi8O4BZ84Dqx9D6xloKEM | 14:22 |
| brendand | cjwatson, let me know if i need to keep going further back | 14:22 |
| cjwatson | I think it would be better to do this without DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer | 14:22 |
| cjwatson | That introduces a ton of noise which is useful for some bugs but in this case I suspect it won't be | 14:23 |
| brendand | cjwatson, how am i going to disable that? | 14:23 |
| cjwatson | As it is you'd have to go back quite a bit before you found something useful | 14:23 |
| cjwatson | You must be *enabling* it | 14:23 |
| cjwatson | It's on the kernel command line | 14:23 |
| brendand | cjwatson, ok. maybe i need to look in the preseed | 14:23 |
| cjwatson | And it's not on by default | 14:23 |
| cjwatson | It's not preseedable - boot parameter only | 14:23 |
| cjwatson | Try your pxelinux config | 14:24 |
| brendand | yeah DEBCONF_DEBUG=5 | 14:26 |
| cjwatson | Right, more or less equivalent. Drop that for the moment? | 14:27 |
| brendand | cjwatson, we may be about to get the log manually. if not i'll rerun without DEBCONF_DEBUG | 14:27 |
| brendand | cjwatson, or with a different number? | 14:27 |
| cjwatson | Just without | 14:27 |
| cjwatson | Then I guess I'll probably need the last half-dozen screens or so, based on that size | 14:27 |
| brendand | cjwatson, can you get this tar file? http://ubuntuone.com/0rKDRNATcizUzg7pUiDpD4 | 14:57 |
| brendand | cjwatson, it's everything that's not preceeded with 'kernel:' | 14:58 |
| cjwatson | Yeah | 15:00 |
| cjwatson | Hmm, the interface is basically completely busted | 15:00 |
| cjwatson | What does 'ip link show' say? (I just need the interface names, not all the other gubbins) | 15:00 |
| cjwatson | Also what sort of general model of machine is this? | 15:01 |
| brendand | but it's not physically busted, because the previous days image works | 15:01 |
| brendand | and alpha2 definitely works | 15:01 |
| cjwatson | Right, busted at the software level | 15:01 |
| brendand | cjwatson, it's an ibm server with onboard intel ethernet | 15:02 |
| cjwatson | This is the first day with biosdevname turned on, so it's not totally unexpected | 15:02 |
| brendand | cjwatson, i've tried on several servers | 15:02 |
| brendand | some with broadcom, some with intel | 15:02 |
| cjwatson | What interfaces does 'ip link show' list? | 15:02 |
| brendand | cjwatson, let me run it | 15:04 |
| brendand | usb, p5p1, p7p1 | 15:05 |
| brendand | and lo | 15:05 |
| brendand | but i know what that is | 15:05 |
| brendand | usb0 to be exact | 15:05 |
| brendand | so my guess now is i need to change our preseed to work on p5p1 | 15:06 |
| cjwatson | Oh, eth0 is preseeded somewhere here? | 15:08 |
| cjwatson | Can I see the preseed file? | 15:08 |
| cjwatson | The biosdevname scheme is em<port> for embedded NICs and p<slot>p<port> for PCI slots. | 15:09 |
| cjwatson | You can also put biosdevname=0 on the kernel command line to disable this; but that will make your tests less like out-of-the-box installs. | 15:10 |
| brendand | ok. we are going to have to change tons of tests :( our fault really | 15:11 |
| cjwatson | It's possible you don't need to hardcode the interface at all | 15:12 |
| cjwatson | As of 11.10, d-i checks for BOOTIF= on the command line, which pxelinux passes if you put 'IPAPPEND 2' in your pxelinux configuration | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | So you can use that to tell the installer to use whichever interface you PXE-booted from | 15:13 |
| cjwatson | I should send mail to u-d about all this though | 15:13 |
| brendand | cjwatson, we haven't seen any problems with the desktop installer. is this not on in ubiquity? | 15:17 |
| brendand | cjwatson, how much longer until holiday time? | 15:20 |
| brendand | cjwatson, i'm just getting these file to you | 15:21 |
| cjwatson | It's not on in ubiquity | 15:23 |
| cjwatson | About two and a bit hours | 15:23 |
| xnox | ev: filed RT with links to deployment instructions. I wonder if it will raise eyebrows 1.5 years since last deployment ;-) | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | brendand: I posted advice to ubuntu-devel@ and a link to the bug | 15:25 |
| ev | xnox: if you don't get a response on it, ask slangasek to raise the priority | 15:26 |
| brendand | cjwatson, http://ubuntuone.com/6bBypXrSGmHI64PB0RcS4I (preseed) | 15:26 |
| xnox | ev: ok. | 15:26 |
| brendand | cjwatson, http://ubuntuone.com/029p5d8qIAdQrSg3eGgvFz (pxelinux.cfg) | 15:27 |
| brendand | cjwatson, looks like we hardcoded eth0 in both places - hurray | 15:27 |
| cjwatson | brendand: Right. My advice to ubuntu-devel should be good then, although you'll need to adjust preseed/late_command too. Either use the biosdevname-generated name there, or use something like interface="$(debconf-get netcfg/choose_interface)"; interface="${interface%%:*}" to fetch the selected interface name | 15:28 |
| cjwatson | Aside from that, "IPAPPEND 2" is probably the preferable approach since it involves least configuration. | 15:29 |
| brendand | cjwatson, whatever is the most future proof is my preference | 15:30 |
| cjwatson | Right. | 15:31 |
| brendand | cjwatson, i think the IPAPPEND thing sounds like what we want | 15:33 |
| cjwatson | Yeah, I think it's what most pxelinux users want | 15:36 |
| cjwatson | The options in that mail are basically in order of preference | 15:37 |
| brendand | cjwatson, so *will* this change in ubiquity eventually? | 15:37 |
| cjwatson | I'm not sure | 15:39 |
| cjwatson | It has rather less obvious benefit on desktops to justify the disruption | 15:39 |
| cjwatson | OTOH there is benefit in similar behaviour | 15:39 |
| cjwatson | So I'm not sure :) | 15:39 |
| cjwatson | xnox: My diff between ubiquity 2.11.{22,23} shows gui/gtk/centrefix.{py,ui}, which I think indicate that your local copy is unclean | 16:31 |
| xnox | cjwatson: woops. | 16:31 |
| xnox | cjwatson: yeah that was just a quick local prototype debugging py-gi gtk | 16:31 |
| cjwatson | xnox: I'll go ahead with the upload anyway, since those files are unreferenced | 16:31 |
| xnox | true. | 16:32 |
| cjwatson | But thought you might like to know | 16:32 |
| xnox | sorry about that, my bet. | 16:32 |
| xnox | Ah.... it's not in the branch, but it is in the tarballs | 16:32 |
| cjwatson | Right | 16:32 |
| * xnox dpkg native should only take stuff committed into VCS and ignore the rest | 16:33 | |
| xnox | similar to setuptools manifest | 16:33 |
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| xnox | Trying to budget lines of code, similar to launchpad | 19:58 |
| xnox | 3 files changed, 957 insertions(+), 989 deletions(-) | 19:58 |
| xnox | this _adds_ crypto UI to manual partitioning with aid from refactoring. | 19:59 |
| xnox | less is more =) | 19:59 |
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