[15:50] <shadeslayer> MOTU meeting in 10 minutes right?
[15:58] <tumbleweed> right
[15:59] <dholbach> yes :)
[16:00] <dholbach> I can chair if somebody else does minutes :)
[16:02] <dholbach> hum, that puts us in a bit of a deadlock situation :)
[16:02] <dholbach> ok, let's start anyway
[16:02] <dholbach> #startmeeting
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[16:02] <dholbach> agenda page is up at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Meetings
[16:03] <dholbach> micahg, around?
[16:03] <dholbach> or anyone else who'd like to talk about sqlite?
[16:03] <dholbach> #topic Killing off sqlite 2 (src:sqlite)
[16:04] <dholbach> Personally I haven't checked quantal-changes too closely, so I don't know how much progress we made in this regard.
[16:04] <tumbleweed> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/sqlite.html
[16:04] <tumbleweed> not much progress, no
[16:04]  * tumbleweed is also a little out of touch atm
[16:04] <dholbach> I mentioned it in the minutes of the last meeting and on the bug fixing initiatives page, but maybe we need to launch another call for help with this
[16:05] <dholbach> Ok, maybe somebody can send an email to the lists about this.
[16:06] <shadeslayer> I could try and help a bit, if someone could explain what needs doing ;)
[16:06] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/BugFixingInitiative#Moving_away_from_sqlite
[16:06] <dholbach> Ah, it's not too much text - I can paste it:
[16:06] <dholbach> We would like to get away from moving sqlite in favour of sqlite3. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1138024/ has a list of packages which need to be built with sqlite3, sometimes some porting work will be involved in making the switch. Be sure to check for new versions upstream which already moved over. Also are there around 10 packages which depend on python-sqlite and will need to be moved over as well.
[16:06] <shadeslayer> alright
[16:07]  * shadeslayer can give one of the packages a try tonight
[16:07] <dholbach> when UDW is over I will start doing some more regular blog posts about specific bugs or specific targets - maybe this will help as well
[16:08] <dholbach> thanks shadeslayer
[16:08] <dholbach> #topic Update from DeveloperAdvisoryTeam.
[16:08] <shadeslayer> right, it helps if you have a set of smaller packaging bugs that people can get started with
[16:08] <dholbach> yes
[16:08] <shadeslayer> oh look, kraft, I've worked on that before, so I can start with that
[16:08] <dholbach> cool
[16:08] <dholbach> In the advisory team we just recruited 2 new members, jokerdino and vibhavp who have been doing a great job until now.
[16:09] <dholbach> And we're still reaching out to new contributors and get a lot of good feedback.
[16:09] <dholbach> Closer to the release we'll release the feedback again.
[16:09] <dholbach> That's all from your DAT.
[16:09] <dholbach> #topic Review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/BugFixingInitiative
[16:10] <dholbach> shadeslayer, if you look at the wiki page - do you have any smaller packaging bugs we should put on there?
[16:10] <shadeslayer> nothing off the top of my head, no
[16:10] <dholbach> we should probably advertise this page even better - as it will likely help getting things done :)
[16:10] <shadeslayer> I can try and compile a list of small packaging bugs in Kubuntu
[16:10] <dholbach> great
[16:11] <dholbach> that'd be awesome
[16:11] <dholbach> if anybody else would have a look at the page and update it if necessary, that would be great - after UDW next week I'll have a look at it myself again
[16:12]  * shadeslayer adds to TODO
[16:12] <dholbach> excellent
[16:12] <dholbach> #topic Any other business?
[16:13] <shadeslayer> well ... question ...
[16:13] <dholbach> sure
[16:13] <shadeslayer> when considerign a new developer for a MOTU position
[16:13] <shadeslayer> do you focus on universe work that person has done
[16:13] <shadeslayer> or the ability to do packaging work
[16:14] <shadeslayer> *considering
[16:14] <dholbach> I'm not on the DMB, so I personally could just say what I /would/ do. :-)
[16:14] <shadeslayer> sure
[16:15]  * tumbleweed is on the DMB
[16:15] <micahg> dholbach: no, no progress yet on sqlite, will try to get to it after feature freeze
[16:15] <dholbach> but I assume that apart from a general demonstration of packaging skills and a track record of good work in Ubuntu, it will be interesting to see why MOTU upload rights would be relevant to them
[16:15] <dholbach> micahg, ok cool
[16:15] <shadeslayer> hm
[16:15] <tumbleweed> it's about work done and ability and trust
[16:16] <shadeslayer> tumbleweed: ^ your opinion?
[16:16] <tumbleweed> ability being less important than trust that the person won't go beyond their abilities
[16:16] <shadeslayer> right
[16:16] <tumbleweed> we do expect a certain level of skill, though
[16:17] <shadeslayer> *nod*
[16:17] <tumbleweed> motus are generalists, so they should already have a fairly wide packaging skillset
[16:17] <shadeslayer> yeah, I want to expand my packaging skillset, which is why I plan on contributing more to Universe
[16:17]  * dholbach hugs shadeslayer
[16:17] <shadeslayer> that, and now that Kubuntu is in Universe ;)
[16:18] <dholbach> :-)
[16:18] <dholbach> ok cool - any more topics for us? :)
[16:19] <shadeslayer> that's it from me :D
[16:19] <dholbach> #topic Updating the wiki for next meeting / minutes
[16:19] <dholbach> Is there anyone who could update the Wiki? :)
[16:20] <tumbleweed> I'm fairly tied up right now, I'm afraid. But I could tomorrow
[16:20] <dholbach> that'd be perfect
[16:21] <dholbach> thanks a lot tumbleweed
[16:21] <dholbach> thanks a lot everyone
[16:21] <dholbach> that was a quick meeting :)
[16:21] <dholbach> #endmeeting
[16:21] <meetingology> Meeting ended Thu Aug 23 16:21:13 2012 UTC.
[16:21] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2012/ubuntu-meeting.2012-08-23-16.02.moin.txt
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