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diploMorning all07:06
AlanBellmorning07:22
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BigRedSGood Morning!07:55
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czajkowskialoha08:07
christelGOOD MORNING <308:10
daubersPARDON08:13
mgdmWHAT WAS THAT08:13
dutchieo/08:16
daubersTHREE YOU SAY?08:16
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JamesTaitMorning all! :)08:48
oimondoes planet ubuntu uk still work?08:49
AlanBelldoesn't look like it08:49
christelGOOD MORNING JamesTait and oimon \o/08:51
oimonYES VERY NICE DAY08:51
christelYES08:51
hoovergood morning all08:52
oimonhmm much as i like lightread, it has a tendency to not update stuff sometimes :S08:53
oimonoh, i've just seen the way that chrome does print preview - very nice!08:55
diploMine just spins and doesn't update09:00
diplo:/09:00
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brobostigongood morning everyone.09:23
oimondiplo, your what, your lightread?09:23
oimonmine has succumbed to the spinny not updating thing too09:24
oimonhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/lightread/+bug/102999909:27
lubotu3Ubuntu bug 1029999 in Lightread "Can't update Lightread" [Undecided,Fix released]09:27
diployeah spinny thing on lightread09:28
* diplo looks at link09:28
diployeah I guessed it wasn't authed properly09:29
diploHadn't got round to signing in yet09:29
oimoni was using it since release09:29
oimonthen it died  - maybe after i accessed from abnother machine?09:29
oimonwhen i sign in i get the Downloading items |==============---| problem09:30
diploI'll try reauthing now as I'm talking about it.09:31
oimonunder edit-preferences do you see an OK button? my window is cropped09:32
diplonope, cropped here as well09:32
oimonexcellent app let down by some basic bugs that all users get :(09:33
diploCan't see a bug for the ok ?09:37
oimonleave it 10 mins ;)09:37
oimoni have another bug too09:37
diploPut as affecting me on the other one aswell09:38
oimonhmm is it this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightread/+bug/103441309:38
lubotu3Ubuntu bug 1034413 in Lightread "Checkbox to toggle notifications on/off is obscured" [Undecided,New]09:38
diploIt's very much like that, but i do see the show notifications with a few pixels of the bottom09:39
oimonit's a badly named big but essentially the same thing09:39
oimons/big/bug/09:40
diploOK, assigned myself to that one as well09:40
diploOught to try and fix some of these one day, means me trying to do something outside of work which i suck at :)09:41
popeyI'm sure the author would appreciate the help diplo09:44
popeybite-size bugs like this are a good way in09:44
oimonwhat is it written in?09:44
oimonwould be a nice project to start on09:44
popey/opt/extras.ubuntu.com/lightread/bin/lightread: a /usr/bin/python script, ASCII text executable09:45
BigRedSI keep wondering about learnign python as a way of making more of these bugs accessible to me09:45
BigRedSbut then I realise that if I like Perl, it's not likely that any python dev will like my Python :)09:46
popeyi think python is less susceptible to that, certainly less than perl09:46
oimonperl is hideusly obfuscable09:47
diploBigRedS: I've been teaching myself python recently09:49
dutchie<3 python09:49
diplomore for scripting, but watched a few vids and it's fairly simple09:49
diploto create gui apps etc09:50
BigRedSyeah, every time I come up with a project to write in a new language I seem to spend about half an hour on it and then think "sod it, I'll just do this in perl"09:52
BigRedSeverything else seems to get string handling so horribly wrong. :)09:52
diploheh09:52
dutchieBigRedS: string handling?09:52
BigRedSyeah, mostly being able to do stuff like09:53
diplopopey: I think I'm more than capable, it's  more of me turning the PC on at home and getting motivated.. lost a lot of that09:53
BigRedSif ($string =~ /From:\s+(\S+)/)09:53
BigRedSso I mean regexes more than I do strings09:54
dutchiewhen all you have is a hammer^Wregexes, everything looks like a nail09:54
dutchieor something09:54
BigRedSI am aware that Perl is a glorified regex, but I don't ever seem to find the thing that whatever else is particularly better at :)09:54
BigRedSadmittedly, it's been a while since 'else' wasn't PHP or C09:54
dutchiepython is better than perl at not looking like line noise ;)09:54
BigRedSI find perl way more readable than I do python :)09:55
dutchieyeah, it's mostly familiarity09:55
diploReally, I've done a fair bit of perl but still prefer python over perl with the little use of it that I have done.09:55
dutchieperl has too many magic variables that affect things in subtle ways for me to get used to09:55
dutchie$_, $/, $\ etc09:55
BigRedSbut you don't need to use all of them, you just can if you like. It's not as if they're functions that're somehow intuitively implemented in other languages09:57
dutchieit's more a problem when i'm looking at other people's code that does use thenm09:57
BigRedSyou always need to look up how to set what the line ending is when iterating through a file if you've not done it enough times before to have remembered it09:57
dutchiethem09:57
BigRedSah yeah09:57
BigRedSI think a big problem that nobody else seems overly bothered about is this idea that functions should be a single word rather than a descriptive term09:58
BigRedShence things like chomp() and chop()09:58
popeythats the issue I have dutchie, fettling other peoples code09:58
dutchiealthough that said, it's taken me a couple of days to get my head around this python code09:59
dutchiemy python is rusty after spending a month or two playing with golan10:00
dutchieg10:00
diploOther issue I have popey is I want to work on one of Dustins Kirklands project called pictor10:00
diploI've lp'd it out but having issues getting it working properly10:00
popeyoooh, you know go dutchie ?10:00
dutchie"know"10:01
diploDebating about editing the apt-get'd code and then adding that to the lp project and do it that way10:01
dutchiei ran through a couple of the tutorials and have been lurking on their ML for a little while10:01
davmor2Morning all10:02
dutchiei tried to write a jabber server but it was too hard, so current back burner project is an api for OEIS10:02
dutchiei do know canonical use go internally to some extent10:03
diploMorning davmor210:03
oimonanyone who fixed lightreads papercuts would be a hero in many peoples eyes10:03
popeydutchie, do you now ;)10:12
* dutchie wonders where popey is going with this10:12
popeyheh10:12
popeyjust interested, not heard many people outside canonical use it10:13
dutchiebit.ly do iirc10:13
dutchieand obviously google10:13
dutchiea guy at my college is writing a minecraft server in go10:14
davmor2popey: there is a guy at the lug using it, he was a huge python guy but is considering a move to go instead10:15
popeyhah, nice dutchie10:15
dutchielast time i saw it was not entirely functional10:15
dutchieit spawned a single chunk of netherrack, and doing such things as sprinting or opening inventory kicked you off10:16
dutchiehowever you could dig, but the digs weren't propagated or saved, so every time anyone logged on you had a fresh chunk10:16
dutchiesomewhat bizarre10:16
diploOK, popey to point me in the right direction10:29
diploI want to work on this tonight10:29
diplohttps://launchpad.net/pictor10:30
popeybzr branch lp:pictor10:30
diploWho is best person to talk me through issues of setting it up to do development on it ?10:30
popeycd pictor10:30
diployeah got the code10:30
popeyedit stuff :D10:30
diploBut it installs into /usr/share etc10:30
diploSo I want to see the edited code in action, and I was having a few issues getting it running 100%10:30
diploWould the best bet be to symlink the files for now and do it that way ?10:31
popeyno10:31
popeyapt-get source pictor10:31
popeyand that will have all the bits to make a deb10:31
popeyapt-get build-dep pictor10:31
popeywhich will get the build dependancies10:31
dutchieif it's php, you can probably just run it locally10:31
diployeah it is dutchie, but it's got files all over the system10:32
diploso you branch it out it is all in one dir10:32
diploI'll try apt-get source10:32
popeyapt-get source will just get you the version from the repo10:32
popeywhich is probably similar to trunk10:33
diployeah it is10:33
dutchiediplo: files all over the system? the bzr branch ought to have everything you need...10:33
diploSo as i say the prog wants to find things in /etc and /usr/share etc10:33
diploAnd I'm not sure the best way of testing the code I change10:33
diployeah but to run it the files are being looked for in certain locations10:34
BigRedSUnit Tests!10:34
diploI'll review the code again tonight and remind myself of the issues I had10:34
dutchiei don't know much about php to be honest, but i'm sure others here do10:34
diploI can code php, it's just best practise really10:34
diploAnd tbh, what I want to fix is getting rid of tables and hard coded colors etc and stick it all in divs /css10:35
diploBut wanted to give back to the project so thought i'd try doing it properly rather than just fixing my site10:35
diplo:)10:35
oimondiplo, fancy uploading a screenshot of pictor to USC?11:09
diploWill do tonight yeah11:15
oimonif i've bought a humble bundle in the past thats included world of goo, do i need to buy the latest one to get it on android?11:27
dutchiei think s11:31
dutchieo11:31
oimoncan't work out how the games get added to android11:32
ali1234diplo: that /etc nonsense is usually something that is added when software is debianized11:35
oimonah, it's simply an apk11:35
ali1234for example, if you install phpmyadmin from the repos, it does the same thing11:36
diploali1234: I did wonder that11:36
ali1234you are supposed to just symlink it11:36
diploCool, that's what I was going to do but wanted to be sure that was the correct way11:36
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oimondirecthex, have you tried the humble bundle games on your touchpad?11:40
directhexoimon, no, haven't androided it yet11:40
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oimondirecthex, you're still running webos?13:11
directhexoimon, yeah. hardly use it tbh. keep thinking "will android this later" & not doing it13:12
directhexi guess i want a rom with a version number, not random nightlies13:12
oimoni actually forgot i had webos on the thing. android on it is great13:12
oimonyeah, as soon as i heard the wifi bug was fixed i chose the nightly that people agreed was a good one13:12
oimoni use it most days, but haven't booted webos since putting android on a long time ago13:13
oimonthe remaining bug is the camera doesn't work13:13
oimoni find it interesting that all of the "relevant art" sections of the gnome design docs look only at win8 and apple, and no other sources13:20
oimone.g. https://live.gnome.org/Design/SystemSettings/Printers13:21
ali1234i find it interesting that you believe there is anything else worth looking at13:21
dogmatic69most annoying bug. cant paste into browser from other apps. Can paste in to the url bar though and copy / paste in the browser is fine too13:24
oimonali1234, really? e.g. initial setup? that should look at other devices e.g android, plus kde etc https://live.gnome.org/GnomeOS/Design/Whiteboards/InitialSetup13:27
ali1234lol KDE13:27
ali1234no serious user designer should ever look at KDE, unless they want counter examples13:27
ali1234android perhaps, but everything good in android is copied from apple13:28
BigRedSso are most of the bad things, I'm lead to believe13:28
oimonmethinks you are trolling me13:28
shaunoapparently everyone's completely forgotten what android looked like pre-iphone13:41
oimonpre google?13:41
BigRedSnah, there was a bit of post-google in there13:43
BigRedSI don't recall ever seeing it apart from this image: http://cdn.iphonehacks.com/images/2011/07/android07.jpg and similar ones13:43
oimonhttp://blog.steventroughtonsmith.com/2012/05/2007s-pre-m3-version-of-android-google.html13:44
shaunoyeah, that's the one I'm thinking of too.  dock & all13:45
oimonnecessary for the blackberry style phone though13:45
oimonlooks very blackberry-esque13:45
shaunoright; RIM were ahead, so they were copying RIM13:45
BigRedSyeah, that largely supports the idea that the iPhone was released and then Android copied it13:46
oimonor the phone dictates the form and function13:46
oimonif you see the apple emails from the samsung trial, apple were copying samsung and sony13:47
BigRedSyeah, I don't doubt that it goes both ways13:47
daubersHooray for poor delivery companies13:49
daubersYodel fails to deliver a parcel, but marks it as delivered on their tracking system13:49
oimonyoda?13:50
oimonmmm parcel i have for you13:50
BigRedSdelivered, the parcel is not13:50
oimonsomebody has put an app in USC that is a 2d side scroller version of portal13:52
oimona la ZX spectrum style13:52
BigRedSportal in 2d?13:53
BigRedSI remember hearing about that, actually13:53
oimonhttps://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/portal-slingshot/13:53
oimonsays the licence is proprietary but it's free though13:54
* popey clicks "Buy"13:57
* popey enters his username and password into USC.. _again_13:57
oimonif there's anything worse than getting magazines and books in my USC results, it's getting fooreign language ones13:57
* popey enters 2fa _again_13:57
popeydavmor2, fix that13:57
* popey enters his desktop password13:58
popey4 dialogs to install an app13:58
oimonpopey, quantal fail?13:58
oimoni need a snooze :(13:59
davmor2popey: already in the work, USC is setting up it's own unified login for all services, it is part way there now payment is the last bit to get added13:59
davmor2popey: 2fa I'm not sure about though13:59
popeyi just don't like entering my user/pass over and over14:00
oimonanyone tried gnome 3.6 beta yet?14:00
davmor2popey: yeap known issue and in the works might not be in time for quantal but they might swing it14:00
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awilkinsHas Precise reached a "point" release yet ; ie - is it's version number 12.04.1 yet?16:09
AlanBellawilkins: it is due to do so today16:11
awilkinsIs there a bug where upgraded boxes claim they are 12.04.1 early?16:12
awilkinsOur Precise servers are upgrades from Lucid and they seem to think they are 12.04.116:13
awilkinsAs does my current machine16:13
awilkinsWhich is an upgrade from Oneiric16:13
awilkinsOr has the distribution been at 12.04.1 but there hasn't been a new installer cut yet?16:13
popeythats not a bug16:18
popeyDescription:Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS16:19
popeythe "release" of 12.04.1 basically means us putting fresh ISOs on the site16:19
awilkinsI was just suspicious of the version number arriving before the ISOs :-)16:19
popeypeople running 12.04 already are on 12.04.1 if they have all their updates16:19
awilkinsJolly good16:20
AlanBellpopey: what about people on 10.04?16:20
popeythey will get the offer to upgrade later16:20
AlanBellwhat is the trigger for that?16:20
popeyshould be today16:20
popeysomeone pressing a button16:20
AlanBell:)16:21
popeyask daviey, he's on release team :)16:22
AlanBellI will ask later, I am just curious really about what it looks for16:23
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Azelphurlol that guy I bought the fucked up S3 from has relisted it stating it's "good condition" http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Samsung-Galaxy-S-3-/221111451831?pt=UK_Mobile_Phones&hash=item337b4500b7#ht_500wt_141317:20
Azelphurshould I report him to ebay?17:20
popeyyes17:22
Azelphurstep down from "perfect condition" but certainly not perfect haha17:22
Flashtekhow is it borked ?17:23
AzelphurFlashtek: he sold it to me stating it was new perfect condition, https://www.dropbox.com/sh/x1btb0c9w9futq4/3mEOQEpIEW17:24
popeywell, did you figure if it was stolen?17:25
popeymaybe someone else will accept that condition17:25
popeyso nothing really to report to ebay then17:25
AzelphurI checked everywhere I could and no it doesn't appear to be listed stolen17:25
Azelphurpopey: he's listed it as "good condition", that's definitely inaccurate17:25
popeydefine "good"17:25
popeyit works17:26
popeyput a cover on it, you might not care17:26
Azelphurhttp://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/in+good+condition17:27
Azelphurhaving holes clean through the outer casing is not physically and functionally sound and sturdy imo :P17:27
popeymeh17:27
AzelphurI reported it anyway17:27
popeywhy do you care? did you get your money back?17:27
Azelphurhe has 2 bad feedbacks for that phone alread17:27
Azelphurpopey: meh, just don't want no one else to buy it and have the same hassle, I can see he's running a scam by continually forcing the phone on people and then making them pay the return postage (although that didn't work with me)17:28
jacobwevening17:43
AlanBellevening all17:48
jacobwtop of evening to you sir17:49
davmor2okay quick questions why would I be getting mail marked spam from my home server, when the server under amavis is set to final_destination_spam = D_DISCARD ?  I'll have a read of the server guide to night and try and figure if I missed something18:28
MartijnVdSdavmor2: because your home IP is dynamic and in anti-spam lists?18:29
jacobwamavis configuration isn't straightforward18:30
Flashtekbecause the local server has a local ip address ??18:30
davmor2MartijnVdS: but it worked in lucid18:31
* MartijnVdS has no idea18:32
Flashtekupdated spamd rules ?18:32
davmor2Flashtek: doubtful why would that stop it being placed in the discard pile18:34
Flashteki would check that the MTA is passing to avavis first.. just to be sure18:36
Flashteki misunderstood...18:36
jacobwcheck if the mails have amavis headers18:43
jacobwthey might not be processed, or processed and not given a high enough score by the bayesian filter to be discarded18:46
chowdaI am trying to localize an app for the UK... odd question... what are the neighborhoods of London called? do you use the term neighborhood? district? something else?18:50
emhey ikonia are you here?18:50
AlanBellgreater London18:50
AlanBellor the commuter belt18:50
AlanBellor the south east18:50
chowdaWhat is Chelsea, for instance? a neighborhood?18:51
davmor2chowda: well they aren't called neighborhoods, that is the american spelling :)  districts iirc18:51
MartijnVdS"The district is part of the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea. From 1900, and until the creation of Greater London in 1965, it formed the Metropolitan Borough of Chelsea in the County of London."18:52
MartijnVdS</wikipedia>18:52
AlanBellLondon boroughs18:52
chowdaIs that the common term? Borough?18:52
chowdaSo if our app has a list of all of these, it would be right to say "Select your Borough?"18:52
davmor2chowda: Fairly it discribe the local councils18:53
AlanBellprobably, yes18:53
MartijnVdSchowda: or just "area"?18:53
MartijnVdS"Which of these is nearest to you?"18:53
MartijnVdSDone!18:53
* AlanBell agrees18:53
AlanBellborough is a bit too precisely defined18:54
chowdaIn SF, NYC and other major cities "Neighborhood" is correct... so our drilldown is State -> City -> Neighborhood... I suppose we could default to Area if Neighborhood doesn't read well in GB18:54
popeypip pip!18:54
davmor2Which rival gang owns your ass18:54
penguin42chowda: What do you do outside cities ?18:55
AlanBellborough is a specificall London concept18:55
davmor2penguin42:  you still have boroughs they are just bigger18:55
chowdapenguin42 not much currently... but for a small city or town we would list the town name again as the only neighborhood and it would be skipped in the UI18:55
chowdaSo I was hoping to find a term as widely accepted as neighborhood in the US, but not as general as "area"18:57
bigcalm_laptopSuburb?18:58
chowdathanks for the insight guys... sorry for the off topic weirdness18:59
jacobwthat's very US IMO18:59
chowdareally?18:59
chowdagood to know...18:59
penguin42chowda: Hey it was at least 50% on topic19:00
jacobwmetropolian area might also be good choice19:00
chowdapenguin42: great point, I'll take it19:00
jacobwtown or city district19:00
chowdalooks like yelp uses "Area"... I guess they are a pretty solid place to emulate... as they use Neighborhood in the US19:01
jacobwLondon is really the only city large enough to have this construct and it's not well defined in the spoken language outside of London19:01
penguin42(not that London is a city of course)19:02
chowdajacobw: every source I'm finding seems to agree, I appreciate the help19:02
chowdawait... hah... I'm such an american... London isn't a city?19:02
MartijnVdSit's several cities :)19:02
jacobwtechnically not, but one could think of it as such19:03
MartijnVdSit's all convention :)19:03
penguin42chowda: I think generally what people refer to as London is the city of Westminster and the city of Kensington19:03
AlanBellwell the city of London is in London19:03
jacobwthe 'City of London' is a small financial district in Central London19:03
chowdaand I thought supporting a new currency was going to be the tricky part of this project!19:03
penguin42chowda: Just accept that whatever you do it'll be technically wrong19:03
MartijnVdShttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_borough#Map :)19:04
popeyhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrObZ_HZZUc  watch that :)19:04
bigcalm_laptopChoo choo!19:04
penguin42chowda: Start at a higher level; are you asking people to select UK, Great Britain or England :-)19:04
chowdaUK19:04
* bigcalm_laptop waves London a very good bye!19:04
penguin42chowda: Good start19:05
chowdaright now we only have support for london... so it's UK -> London -> [Chelsea, South Kensington, etc]19:05
jacobwCGP Grey is awesome, he has other videos explaining the Commonwealth/UK/GB/England/Wales/Scotland distinctions19:05
penguin42chowda: I don't know why you would want to select something based off that, but perhaps just asking for the 1st ection of the post code is best19:06
MartijnVdSpopey: you like the Raspberry Pi.. what do you think of the WR703N? (5x5x2cm router from TP-link -- no HDMI but WIFI, MIPS instead of ARM, less RAM but a bit of built-in flash)19:06
MartijnVdSpopey: oh and it comes in a box ;) And it runs OpenWRT :)19:06
directhexczajkowski, i know you enjoy mocking me, but this recipe includes, say, "4 chicken breasts, skinned, poached and diced" as an ingredient. this is especially noffensive when the title of the book is "one pot wonders" - the point is it's recipes requiring a single cooking pot.19:07
popeyhaha19:07
popeynot looked at it19:07
directhexyes, you only need one pot to make a meal, if the ingredients are "all the other shizzle you messed up ten pots for"19:07
MartijnVdSpopey: Someone at YAPC::Europe had one with him, strapped to a Li-Ion battery pack :)19:07
chowdapenguin42: because we allow you to send things to people who you may not know their post code.. but you probably know which "neighborhood" they are in19:07
czajkowskidirecthex: *grin*19:07
czajkowskiI don't enjoy mocking you at all19:07
MartijnVdSpopey: apparently, it uses 1W at its max19:07
czajkowskiI only enjoy doing that to davmor219:08
jacobwchowda: post codes are little confusing in the UK too19:08
popeychowda, why do you allow such madness?19:08
MartijnVdSchowda: again, just show a list of names, ask which is nearest :)19:08
penguin42chowda: Yeh, I wouldn't bet on them getting it exactly right - but they might get close19:08
MartijnVdSThat works everywhere in the world19:08
jacobwchowda: N*, NW*, W*, SW*, S*, SE* and E* are all in London, but NE* is the area around Newcastle19:09
chowdapopey: because we're masochists19:09
popeyexcellent19:09
penguin42chowda: Should work great for Londoners then :-)19:09
chowdaMartijnVdS: the number of names would get overwhelming... we need a way to drill down in a logical manner to keep the lists reasonable19:09
MartijnVdSchowda: clicking a map :)19:09
MartijnVdSjacobw: NE was demolished for the Olympic park, right?19:10
jacobwHa!19:10
MartijnVdSjacobw: so it could be re-used for newcastle19:10
chowdaMartijnVdS: now you're just being crazy :)19:10
MartijnVdS(who only got the postal system last month)19:10
jacobwHull is the only place in the UK which doesn't have British Telecom19:10
jacobwSpeaking the North East19:10
directhex"smoked chicken with mixed salad and puy lentils"19:10
MartijnVdSjacobw: What does it have? France Telecom?19:10
directhexingredients: "4 breasts of smoked chicken, finely chopped"19:11
directhexMartijnVdS, a local cable monopoly19:11
MartijnVdSdirecthex: .. yay19:11
jacobwMartijnVdS: in the mists of time, a local law mandated that the town provide it's own postal system, and subsequently telephone network19:11
jacobwMartijnVdS: it was called Kingston, after 'Kingston upon Hull' as the Hull is offically named19:12
jacobwMartijnVdS: now it's called K-Com is owned by Britsh Telecom19:13
popeyoh, didnt realise BT bought it19:13
jacobwHmm, Wikipedia says it's not owned by BT but all of it's network assets are outsourced to BT19:15
jacobwWhich sounds similar :P19:15
czajkowskidirecthex: I often buy pre chopped chicken breast saves time!19:19
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bigcalm_laptop!ping19:28
lubotu3another contentless ping... sigh...19:28
MartijnVdS!ping boo19:28
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bigcalm_laptopPingu?19:29
popeyhmm, hungry19:29
bigcalm_laptopBBQ'd Pingu?19:29
* popey needs something which isn't naughty19:29
* popey forages19:29
* penguin42 looks worried19:29
bigcalm_laptopI had Pizza Express all on my lonesome on Euston Road19:29
bigcalm_laptoppenguin42: heh19:30
czajkowskipopey: scrambled eggs on tost19:31
czajkowskitea and toast19:31
czajkowskimarmite on toast19:31
bigcalm_laptopKitten on toast19:31
czajkowskior a banana sandwich19:31
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* AlanBell had scrambled eggs on toast19:33
bigcalm_laptopczajkowski: What if popey is secretly Banana Man? Do we need him flying around at this time of night?19:33
AlanBellone slice of toast, 3eggs19:33
bigcalm_laptopOoo19:34
czajkowskioh fried egg on toast with DOLLOPS of lee and perins!19:34
bigcalm_laptopYou'll be egg bound!19:34
* christel eats czajkowski 19:34
christel(you're the little brown mouse to my gruffalo)19:35
czajkowskiherrrroooo19:36
AlanBellbigcalm_laptop: well my egg consumption is limited by the laying capacity so not too worried about that :)19:36
* popey found burgers19:36
bigcalm_laptopAlanBell: I hope your chicks stay productive :)19:37
christeli just splurted coffee all over myself19:37
popey<czajkowski> or a banana sandwich19:37
popeywretch19:37
christelbanana burger?!19:38
czajkowskipopey: :o soo tasty19:38
popeyseriously, who eats bananas in bread?19:38
AlanBellme19:38
AlanBellnom19:38
popeygolly19:38
popeyoddballs all around me19:38
MartijnVdSpopey: banana bread! \o/19:38
christelhrmm.. i sometimes make bananabread and sometimes i have sliced banana on bread :s19:38
popeybanana bread, and banana beer, yes19:38
MartijnVdSbanana bread + cashews++19:39
christelwhen i was pregnant i had banana on toast with salt19:39
christelit was nice19:39
popeybanana smooshed up in a sarnie.. ew19:39
christeli am not sure it would be nice now19:39
czajkowskioh yes I like mine smashed19:39
czajkowskimy mum likes hers sliced19:39
christelmind, i also went through a period of liking bread with nutella and mayonnaise... and i cant blame pregnancy for that one19:39
bigcalm_laptopHehe19:40
christel(it was yester..ok it wasnt)19:40
bigcalm_laptopHa19:40
popeyclare ate tonnes of chipsticks when she was pregnant19:41
AlanBellhttp://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/1906/detail/ happy hour \o/19:43
AlanBelland what should we do for christmas?19:43
* AlanBell looks with interest at http://christmas.hospitalityline.co.uk/christmas-shared-parties19:44
popeyvolunteer charity work19:44
popeyhelping out in a soup kitchen, feeding homeless, dunno19:44
czajkowskipopey: thats a really excellent idea!19:44
MartijnVdS"Would you like a coaster with that soup?"19:44
popeysomething beneficial for other people rather than ourselves, perhaps19:44
bigcalm_laptopAlanBell: party on the water?19:44
AlanBellok, I like that idea19:44
bigcalm_laptopNo soup for you!19:45
popeythose are just suggestions, any kind of volunteer work19:45
popeyclearing a canal, painting a wall, dunno19:45
czajkowskiIt's a nie idea I thnk19:46
MartijnVdSpopey: clearing a canal in the middle of winter.. with ice..19:46
popeyjust brainstorming :)19:46
MartijnVdSok :)19:46
popeymaybe one of those charities that packs up boxes to go somewhere ...19:46
MartijnVdSThey do a trash pick-up day here every once in a while19:46
popeyoh, thats nice, a clear up day19:47
MartijnVdSthey walk around the lake with bags and pick up everything from outside the paths/bins (which are cleaned by the council)19:47
MartijnVdSwith tweezers-on-a-stick19:47
AlanBellPaula will probably be the person to talk to about this19:51
AlanBellmight try and pop round to fossbox to figure out some options next week after a paralympic shift19:53
mattt:-/19:54
popeynice one AlanBell20:03
popeyshe did ask if someone could help a local company with some ubuntu consultancy20:03
AlanBelljust has to be something where I can wear a santa suit20:03
AlanBellshe did, I couldn't20:03
christelsanta suit \o/20:04
christelsantabell \o/20:04
bigcalm_laptopGetting travel sick - toodles :S20:17
christelhaha20:26
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smarqleI have a question about Lastfm in Rhythmbox if anyone's around?22:32
penguin42http://news.backyardbrains.com/2012/08/insane-in-the-chromatophores/  I can see people asking for visualiser plugins for music players for htis (what happens when you connect an ipod to a squid)22:44
smarqleI'm using Rhythmbox with Lastfm and have a query. When I play artist stations they get saved in  the column on the left, but there seems no obvious way of removing them. I was hoping right clicking would do it. That's how it works with the Lastfm scrobbler client (on windows and Debian when I tried it on those)22:50

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