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jrwrenrick_h_: i'm gonna swap out pyinotify for watchdog so i can run on osx for dev 8D00:31
rick_h_jrwren: sure thing00:32
jrwren"You already have an import waiting in the queue." is there a way i can see my queue00:44
rick_h_make run_celery00:45
rick_h_will run celery and start processing the queue items00:45
rick_h_the queue is visible via the db you use00:45
rick_h_it's dumped there by default, look in the kombu_queue and kombu_message00:46
jrwrenty00:46
rick_h_you have to b64decode the messages00:46
jrwreni'll investigate00:52
jrwreni don't know anything about celery, so I'll be difing in00:54
rick_h_ok, what's the issue?00:57
rick_h_<3 @voidspace https://gist.github.com/343636312:59
rick_h_new test case for all projects!12:59
brouschheh13:00
brouschMy projects would never pass!13:01
rick_h_I bet it wouldn't take long to get working13:02
brouschStep 1: Remember how to run tests13:13
snap-lheh13:13
rick_h_make test13:14
rick_h_:P13:14
brouschnice13:14
brouschActually PyDev does a lot of that for me right in the editor13:16
brouschAh damnit. I tried to run it on my Python2.5 project and it failed13:19
shakes808Good morning all13:36
jjessemorning shakes80813:36
snap-lGood morning13:41
shakes808How was CHC last night? I was going to come by but had to go back to my side of town. I might be coming next week.14:30
snap-lIt was good. Had Trevor Fitzgerald show back up14:31
snap-lWe've missed you these past few weeks / months. :)14:35
shakes808That's cool. Wish I would have shown up.14:35
shakes808AW isn't that sweet! :) ;) How is everything at the office?14:36
snap-lSame ol' same ol. Too much to do, not enough hours to get it done right.14:37
snap-lHow's the hunt?14:37
shakes808So nothing has changed I see lol14:39
shakes808I am working for a mortgage company now14:39
shakes808Started this week.14:39
snap-lAh, very cool14:39
shakes808Getting settled in and learning things lol14:39
rick_h_shakes808: moving on up in the world?14:39
rick_h_didn't know you weren't at morpace any more14:40
shakes808LOL Trying to.14:40
rick_h_doing python? :)14:40
shakes808Haven't been for about 3 weeks now14:40
snap-lLnger than that, hasn't it?14:40
shakes808Haven't really touched any programming in a while. I have been doing family things and actually spending time with my son since I had more time to do that lol14:40
shakes808I was in OH at my cousin's fishing on Lake Eerie14:41
shakes808Camping with my boy and a buddy with his boy14:41
shakes808It has been nice14:41
shakes808:D14:41
rick_h_very cool14:41
rick_h_dad time > *14:42
shakes808snap-l: No I believe I was let go on the 26th14:42
shakes808rick_h_: As you know ;) My son is finally riding his bike without training wheels now14:42
shakes808and we go on nice bike rides14:42
snap-lMan, I can't keep time straight anymore14:42
shakes808fun stuff when you can enjoy it14:42
rick_h_shakes808: awesome14:43
shakes808rick_h_: right now it is a melting pot of languages and they are looking to move to C#.14:44
shakes808rick_h_: How is the JS guru holding up?15:13
shakes808LP keeping you busy?15:15
snap-lshakes808: https://ting.com/blog/byod-coming-soon-to-ting/15:26
shakes808nice15:30
snap-lYeah, I'm hoping Sprint doesn't start doing evil things15:32
snap-lbecause so far I've been rather happy15:32
shakes808I was just talking with Verizon last night about plans and what not.15:33
shakes808Sprint is evil15:33
snap-lNot through Ting they aren't.15:33
shakes808lol15:33
snap-lAt least I haven't seen it.15:33
rick_h_verizon is evil...but damn nice network15:33
snap-lAnd Verizon is made up of chopped up babies15:33
rick_h_shakes808: I'm surviving15:33
shakes808Have you had to deal with their customer service?15:34
snap-lTing's CS? Yes. They're stellar.15:34
shakes808good15:34
snap-lSprint's CS? I'd rather bathe in acid and rinse down with salt.15:34
shakes808:D15:34
krondorsnap-l:  how has data speeds been?  I'm curious what throttling the major carriers put on these piggyback providers (ting/metropcs/cricket/etc..).16:09
krondorok Ting asserts they don't get separate traffic classification; https://ting.com/blog/do-mvnos-get-second-class-cell-service/16:16
krondorlooks like some of the cheap providers that are owned by the larger providers do (Virgin Mobile)16:16
rick_h_I don't think sprint's network is fast enough to throttle w/o just turning it off16:16
rick_h_:P16:16
krondorrick_h__: yeah that's my other worry.  It is tempting when you look at how much cheaper/month ting is16:17
krondorcoworker just asked me why our servers are running 12.04, and shouldn't we be on 14.04 like his VM at home...16:27
rick_h_ummm...lmfao?16:28
krondoryeah .. confused doesn't begin to describe my face.  I should have asked when he invented time travel16:28
rick_h_"We're still on 12.04? Shouldn't we be up to 93.10?"16:28
krondorsometimes I really wonder about this place lol16:28
rick_h_you need to be like "I tried and tried to tell the IT guys we should be checking out zonky zebra...but they just won't have it. Backwards folks I tell you"16:29
krondorthat's genius actually by the time it's released they'll have done all the political sandbagging and such in advance.  Upgrading will be no big deal!16:30
rick_h_with python 7 :P16:31
jrwrenanyone know apache well enough to tell me what apache does when you have mod_disk_cache and mod_mem_cache and CacheEnable disk / and CacheEnable mem /16:46
krondornot I, maybe #apache ? drbacchus idles there at times and he knows way too much about apache in my experience16:50
jrwrenof course I have to ask first to finally find it documented.16:52
shakes808HA HA. Just got back from lunch and seen the 14.04 remark. You should ask your coworker for a copy to try it out lol17:06
nullspaceanyone know of a command line tool to add an audio layer to an mp3 from another mp3?17:10
brouschffmpeg should be able to, but I've not done it17:18
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snap-lkrondor: Data speeds are OK, though there's no 4G in this area17:47
snap-lif you're looking for speed, Verizon is pretty much the only game in town17:48
snap-lwhen we were in Columbus, I managed to get some 4G, and it was reasonable17:48
snap-lbeauty though is I can tether out of the box, without a surcharge17:49
krondorsnap-l: vzw doesn't surcharge for tether anymore; http://cnet.co/M6mBGh but don't worry they still manage to bleed you of your money18:05
rick_h_yea18:06
rick_h_but only if you're on a shared data plan if I recall18:06
rick_h_and I'd lose my unlimited plan on my phone which saved my $#@$#@ when I racked up 3gb of data in 2 days during Google IO18:06
krondorrick_h__: ++ that's correct, vzw always with the push to move you into the heavier data premium plans18:07
greg-gand, the base rate of $70/mo is just ex. pen. sive.18:08
rick_h_% bookie invite list | grep -v \@ | wc -l                           (rharding@toraken:~)18:08
rick_h_10118:08
rick_h_woot! today Bookie crossed 100 signed up users18:08
greg-gyay!18:08
rick_h_124 total accounts, but 23 never activated18:08
greg-g23 lamers18:09
rick_h_:P18:09
shakes808Congrats rick_h_18:14
rick_h_thanks shakes80818:14
shakes808Anyone.... Who knows scheme?18:33
rick_h_I'd bet on jrwren and Blazeix as potentials18:35
greg-git's been a while, but I wrote a chess playing program in it in undergrad18:35
Blazeixi knew scheme at one point...19:21
Blazeixbut it's been 5 or 6 years since i really used a lispy language19:21
greg-gyeah.... 2012 - 2002... eek19:24
Blazeixshakes808: what're you doing with scheme?19:25
greg-gBAM! http://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/57937-lolz-oxford-online-dictionary-adds-internet-terms.html I should send that to my old boss at the UM Library who said I couldn't call an event a hackathon because of how people will think we're 'hackers'19:25
greg-gtoo bad their definition for "hack" is still bad: http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/hack19:26
snap-lI prefer to term people who break into systems and fuck things up as "fuckers"19:27
snap-lLeave the hackers to the noble-fok.19:27
snap-lfolk.19:27
greg-ghear ye hear ye, we shall be commencing the hacking one fortnight from today.19:28
snap-lAlthough I'm sure the person at U-M would have a problem with a fuckathon19:28
greg-gsnap-l: god I hope19:28
shakes808Blazeix: At my new job, they use scheme for some things and going through trying to teach myself a little bit of it.19:31
snap-lWould love to know who made that call19:31
shakes808I found snippet of code and didn't understand it19:31
snap-lshakes808: May I recommend two books: Practical Common Lisp and Land of Lisp?19:31
shakes808snap-l: for scheme?19:32
snap-lscheme is a mumble mumble of Lisp19:32
shakes808alright19:32
shakes808I might have those books as ebooks19:32
shakes808I will have to check tonight when I get home19:32
shakes808Thank you for the suggestions19:32
greg-gdialect?19:33
snap-lif not, lmk. I have a physical copy of the Land of Lisp book you could borrow19:33
snap-l(and an e-book version)19:33
shakes808thank you19:33
snap-lgreg-g: I get lost in how they both relate. I think Scheme is a dialect19:33
snap-lbut it'll at least point in the general direction19:34
Blazeixdepending on how deep you want to go, you might also check out SICP: http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book-Z-H-4.html19:37
snap-lYeah, that's a great book, but be prepared to sit and have tea with rabbits, mice, and a Mad Hatter.19:38
greg-gloved that book19:38
greg-gstill have it on my shelf, I think19:39
* snap-l has to locate a copy19:39
greg-gholy. shit.19:39
greg-gI just realized that Hal Abelson wrote that book, he's on our board19:39
greg-gthat explains a few things19:39
snap-lgreg-g: ;)19:39
snap-lOMC will be on http://metalinjection at 6pm ET19:48
snap-lhttp://metalinjection.fm19:48
snap-ltomorrow at 3pm ET19:49
jrwrenscheme is a lisp19:49
shakes808snap-l: Who is OMC?20:00
shakes808jrwren: Which came first the Scheme or the Lisp?20:00
greg-gsnap-l: what's with the "ng" in the top left corner of the MI.fm page?20:01
brouschOMC is snap-l's long haired, tatooed, nipple-pierced alter-ego20:01
shakes808Gotcha. That makes sense now. He is always talking to himself in his cubicle.20:04
shakes808;)20:04
shakes808Or he is just singing along with Cake20:05
shakes808lol20:05
brouschis this greg-g? http://dvice.com/archives/2012/08/video-guy-ridin.php20:33
shakes808Night all.20:59
Blazeixincorrect.21:01
snap-lgreg-g: no idea. SOmeone probably broke something21:41
greg-gI spent way too much time as a kid playing Total Annihilation, so this got me excited: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/659943965/planetary-annihilation-a-next-generation-rts22:22
greg-gLinux support, even :)22:22
krondorgreg-g: !! my favorite RTS!22:23
greg-geveryone's, right?22:24
krondorthis looks awesome, I loved TA, did you play supreme commander?  Supreme commander 2 sucks from what I've heard.22:24
greg-ghave not, no22:24
greg-gI'm sitting here with the confirm button looming over me to do the $20 level (get the game and poster)22:25
greg-gwhen was the last time I played a game for more than 5 minutes, not on a plane? YEARS, practically over a DECADE22:25
greg-g:(22:25
krondoryeah I think I'll be donating.  Supreme Commander was the unofficial sequel to TA made by the same guy (Chris Taylor) who lost the rights to TA I think.22:26
greg-gahh, gotcha22:27
greg-gwow, just watched the video, that's pretty epic22:32
krondorTA was epic so it would have to be.  I once got into a match that lasted 13 hours.  We eventually called it a draw and went to bed.22:33
greg-gI miss those days :(22:34
krondorfront lines were continuous feed of units annihilating each other, bases were shooting 30 nukes at a time and 30 patriots intercepting.  It was insanely tiring22:34
krondorI do too, I miss lan parties in general22:34
greg-g:)22:35
rick_h_well, new users find new bugs23:30
rick_h_unicode urls fml23:30

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