[00:31] <jrwren> rick_h_: i'm gonna swap out pyinotify for watchdog so i can run on osx for dev 8D
[00:32] <rick_h_> jrwren: sure thing
[00:44] <jrwren> "You already have an import waiting in the queue." is there a way i can see my queue
[00:45] <rick_h_> make run_celery
[00:45] <rick_h_> will run celery and start processing the queue items
[00:45] <rick_h_> the queue is visible via the db you use
[00:46] <rick_h_> it's dumped there by default, look in the kombu_queue and kombu_message
[00:46] <jrwren> ty
[00:46] <rick_h_> you have to b64decode the messages
[00:52] <jrwren> i'll investigate
[00:54] <jrwren> i don't know anything about celery, so I'll be difing in
[00:57] <rick_h_> ok, what's the issue?
[12:59] <rick_h_> <3 @voidspace https://gist.github.com/3436363
[12:59] <rick_h_> new test case for all projects!
[13:00] <brousch> heh
[13:01] <brousch> My projects would never pass!
[13:02] <rick_h_> I bet it wouldn't take long to get working
[13:13] <brousch> Step 1: Remember how to run tests
[13:13] <snap-l> heh
[13:14] <rick_h_> make test
[13:14] <rick_h_> :P
[13:14] <brousch> nice
[13:16] <brousch> Actually PyDev does a lot of that for me right in the editor
[13:19] <brousch> Ah damnit. I tried to run it on my Python2.5 project and it failed
[13:36] <shakes808> Good morning all
[13:36] <jjesse> morning shakes808
[13:41] <snap-l> Good morning
[14:30] <shakes808> How was CHC last night? I was going to come by but had to go back to my side of town. I might be coming next week.
[14:31] <snap-l> It was good. Had Trevor Fitzgerald show back up
[14:35] <snap-l> We've missed you these past few weeks / months. :)
[14:35] <shakes808> That's cool. Wish I would have shown up.
[14:36] <shakes808> AW isn't that sweet! :) ;) How is everything at the office?
[14:37] <snap-l> Same ol' same ol. Too much to do, not enough hours to get it done right.
[14:37] <snap-l> How's the hunt?
[14:39] <shakes808> So nothing has changed I see lol
[14:39] <shakes808> I am working for a mortgage company now
[14:39] <shakes808> Started this week.
[14:39] <snap-l> Ah, very cool
[14:39] <shakes808> Getting settled in and learning things lol
[14:39] <rick_h_> shakes808: moving on up in the world?
[14:40] <rick_h_> didn't know you weren't at morpace any more
[14:40] <shakes808> LOL Trying to.
[14:40] <rick_h_> doing python? :)
[14:40] <shakes808> Haven't been for about 3 weeks now
[14:40] <snap-l> Lnger than that, hasn't it?
[14:40] <shakes808> Haven't really touched any programming in a while. I have been doing family things and actually spending time with my son since I had more time to do that lol
[14:41] <shakes808> I was in OH at my cousin's fishing on Lake Eerie
[14:41] <shakes808> Camping with my boy and a buddy with his boy
[14:41] <shakes808> It has been nice
[14:41] <shakes808> :D
[14:41] <rick_h_> very cool
[14:42] <rick_h_> dad time > *
[14:42] <shakes808> snap-l: No I believe I was let go on the 26th
[14:42] <shakes808> rick_h_: As you know ;) My son is finally riding his bike without training wheels now
[14:42] <shakes808> and we go on nice bike rides
[14:42] <snap-l> Man, I can't keep time straight anymore
[14:42] <shakes808> fun stuff when you can enjoy it
[14:43] <rick_h_> shakes808: awesome
[14:44] <shakes808> rick_h_: right now it is a melting pot of languages and they are looking to move to C#.
[15:13] <shakes808> rick_h_: How is the JS guru holding up?
[15:15] <shakes808> LP keeping you busy?
[15:26] <snap-l> shakes808: https://ting.com/blog/byod-coming-soon-to-ting/
[15:30] <shakes808> nice
[15:32] <snap-l> Yeah, I'm hoping Sprint doesn't start doing evil things
[15:32] <snap-l> because so far I've been rather happy
[15:33] <shakes808> I was just talking with Verizon last night about plans and what not.
[15:33] <shakes808> Sprint is evil
[15:33] <snap-l> Not through Ting they aren't.
[15:33] <shakes808> lol
[15:33] <snap-l> At least I haven't seen it.
[15:33] <rick_h_> verizon is evil...but damn nice network
[15:33] <snap-l> And Verizon is made up of chopped up babies
[15:33] <rick_h_> shakes808: I'm surviving
[15:34] <shakes808> Have you had to deal with their customer service?
[15:34] <snap-l> Ting's CS? Yes. They're stellar.
[15:34] <shakes808> good
[15:34] <snap-l> Sprint's CS? I'd rather bathe in acid and rinse down with salt.
[15:34] <shakes808> :D
[16:09] <krondor> snap-l:  how has data speeds been?  I'm curious what throttling the major carriers put on these piggyback providers (ting/metropcs/cricket/etc..).
[16:16] <krondor> ok Ting asserts they don't get separate traffic classification; https://ting.com/blog/do-mvnos-get-second-class-cell-service/
[16:16] <krondor> looks like some of the cheap providers that are owned by the larger providers do (Virgin Mobile)
[16:16] <rick_h_> I don't think sprint's network is fast enough to throttle w/o just turning it off
[16:16] <rick_h_> :P
[16:17] <krondor> rick_h__: yeah that's my other worry.  It is tempting when you look at how much cheaper/month ting is
[16:27] <krondor> coworker just asked me why our servers are running 12.04, and shouldn't we be on 14.04 like his VM at home...
[16:28] <rick_h_> ummm...lmfao?
[16:28] <krondor> yeah .. confused doesn't begin to describe my face.  I should have asked when he invented time travel
[16:28] <rick_h_> "We're still on 12.04? Shouldn't we be up to 93.10?"
[16:28] <krondor> sometimes I really wonder about this place lol
[16:29] <rick_h_> you need to be like "I tried and tried to tell the IT guys we should be checking out zonky zebra...but they just won't have it. Backwards folks I tell you"
[16:30] <krondor> that's genius actually by the time it's released they'll have done all the political sandbagging and such in advance.  Upgrading will be no big deal!
[16:31] <rick_h_> with python 7 :P
[16:46] <jrwren> anyone know apache well enough to tell me what apache does when you have mod_disk_cache and mod_mem_cache and CacheEnable disk / and CacheEnable mem /
[16:50] <krondor> not I, maybe #apache ? drbacchus idles there at times and he knows way too much about apache in my experience
[16:52] <jrwren> of course I have to ask first to finally find it documented.
[17:06] <shakes808> HA HA. Just got back from lunch and seen the 14.04 remark. You should ask your coworker for a copy to try it out lol
[17:10] <nullspace> anyone know of a command line tool to add an audio layer to an mp3 from another mp3?
[17:18] <brousch> ffmpeg should be able to, but I've not done it
[17:47] <snap-l> krondor: Data speeds are OK, though there's no 4G in this area
[17:48] <snap-l> if you're looking for speed, Verizon is pretty much the only game in town
[17:48] <snap-l> when we were in Columbus, I managed to get some 4G, and it was reasonable
[17:49] <snap-l> beauty though is I can tether out of the box, without a surcharge
[18:05] <krondor> snap-l: vzw doesn't surcharge for tether anymore; http://cnet.co/M6mBGh but don't worry they still manage to bleed you of your money
[18:06] <rick_h_> yea
[18:06] <rick_h_> but only if you're on a shared data plan if I recall
[18:06] <rick_h_> and I'd lose my unlimited plan on my phone which saved my $#@$#@ when I racked up 3gb of data in 2 days during Google IO
[18:07] <krondor> rick_h__: ++ that's correct, vzw always with the push to move you into the heavier data premium plans
[18:08] <greg-g> and, the base rate of $70/mo is just ex. pen. sive.
[18:08] <rick_h_> % bookie invite list | grep -v \@ | wc -l                           (rharding@toraken:~)
[18:08] <rick_h_> 101
[18:08] <rick_h_> woot! today Bookie crossed 100 signed up users
[18:08] <greg-g> yay!
[18:08] <rick_h_> 124 total accounts, but 23 never activated
[18:09] <greg-g> 23 lamers
[18:09] <rick_h_> :P
[18:14] <shakes808> Congrats rick_h_
[18:14] <rick_h_> thanks shakes808
[18:33] <shakes808> Anyone.... Who knows scheme?
[18:35] <rick_h_> I'd bet on jrwren and Blazeix as potentials
[18:35] <greg-g> it's been a while, but I wrote a chess playing program in it in undergrad
[19:21] <Blazeix> i knew scheme at one point...
[19:21] <Blazeix> but it's been 5 or 6 years since i really used a lispy language
[19:24] <greg-g> yeah.... 2012 - 2002... eek
[19:25] <Blazeix> shakes808: what're you doing with scheme?
[19:25] <greg-g> BAM! http://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/57937-lolz-oxford-online-dictionary-adds-internet-terms.html I should send that to my old boss at the UM Library who said I couldn't call an event a hackathon because of how people will think we're 'hackers'
[19:26] <greg-g> too bad their definition for "hack" is still bad: http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/hack
[19:27] <snap-l> I prefer to term people who break into systems and fuck things up as "fuckers"
[19:27] <snap-l> Leave the hackers to the noble-fok.
[19:27] <snap-l> folk.
[19:28] <greg-g> hear ye hear ye, we shall be commencing the hacking one fortnight from today.
[19:28] <snap-l> Although I'm sure the person at U-M would have a problem with a fuckathon
[19:28] <greg-g> snap-l: god I hope
[19:31] <shakes808> Blazeix: At my new job, they use scheme for some things and going through trying to teach myself a little bit of it.
[19:31] <snap-l> Would love to know who made that call
[19:31] <shakes808> I found snippet of code and didn't understand it
[19:31] <snap-l> shakes808: May I recommend two books: Practical Common Lisp and Land of Lisp?
[19:32] <shakes808> snap-l: for scheme?
[19:32] <snap-l> scheme is a mumble mumble of Lisp
[19:32] <shakes808> alright
[19:32] <shakes808> I might have those books as ebooks
[19:32] <shakes808> I will have to check tonight when I get home
[19:32] <shakes808> Thank you for the suggestions
[19:33] <greg-g> dialect?
[19:33] <snap-l> if not, lmk. I have a physical copy of the Land of Lisp book you could borrow
[19:33] <snap-l> (and an e-book version)
[19:33] <shakes808> thank you
[19:33] <snap-l> greg-g: I get lost in how they both relate. I think Scheme is a dialect
[19:34] <snap-l> but it'll at least point in the general direction
[19:37] <Blazeix> depending on how deep you want to go, you might also check out SICP: http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book-Z-H-4.html
[19:38] <snap-l> Yeah, that's a great book, but be prepared to sit and have tea with rabbits, mice, and a Mad Hatter.
[19:38] <greg-g> loved that book
[19:39] <greg-g> still have it on my shelf, I think
[19:39]  * snap-l has to locate a copy
[19:39] <greg-g> holy. shit.
[19:39] <greg-g> I just realized that Hal Abelson wrote that book, he's on our board
[19:39] <greg-g> that explains a few things
[19:39] <snap-l> greg-g: ;)
[19:48] <snap-l> OMC will be on http://metalinjection at 6pm ET
[19:48] <snap-l> http://metalinjection.fm
[19:49] <snap-l> tomorrow at 3pm ET
[19:49] <jrwren> scheme is a lisp
[20:00] <shakes808> snap-l: Who is OMC?
[20:00] <shakes808> jrwren: Which came first the Scheme or the Lisp?
[20:01] <greg-g> snap-l: what's with the "ng" in the top left corner of the MI.fm page?
[20:01] <brousch> OMC is snap-l's long haired, tatooed, nipple-pierced alter-ego
[20:04] <shakes808> Gotcha. That makes sense now. He is always talking to himself in his cubicle.
[20:04] <shakes808> ;)
[20:05] <shakes808> Or he is just singing along with Cake
[20:05] <shakes808> lol
[20:33] <brousch> is this greg-g? http://dvice.com/archives/2012/08/video-guy-ridin.php
[20:59] <shakes808> Night all.
[21:01] <Blazeix> incorrect.
[21:41] <snap-l> greg-g: no idea. SOmeone probably broke something
[22:22] <greg-g> I spent way too much time as a kid playing Total Annihilation, so this got me excited: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/659943965/planetary-annihilation-a-next-generation-rts
[22:22] <greg-g> Linux support, even :)
[22:23] <krondor> greg-g: !! my favorite RTS!
[22:24] <greg-g> everyone's, right?
[22:24] <krondor> this looks awesome, I loved TA, did you play supreme commander?  Supreme commander 2 sucks from what I've heard.
[22:24] <greg-g> have not, no
[22:25] <greg-g> I'm sitting here with the confirm button looming over me to do the $20 level (get the game and poster)
[22:25] <greg-g> when was the last time I played a game for more than 5 minutes, not on a plane? YEARS, practically over a DECADE
[22:25] <greg-g> :(
[22:26] <krondor> yeah I think I'll be donating.  Supreme Commander was the unofficial sequel to TA made by the same guy (Chris Taylor) who lost the rights to TA I think.
[22:27] <greg-g> ahh, gotcha
[22:32] <greg-g> wow, just watched the video, that's pretty epic
[22:33] <krondor> TA was epic so it would have to be.  I once got into a match that lasted 13 hours.  We eventually called it a draw and went to bed.
[22:34] <greg-g> I miss those days :(
[22:34] <krondor> front lines were continuous feed of units annihilating each other, bases were shooting 30 nukes at a time and 30 patriots intercepting.  It was insanely tiring
[22:34] <krondor> I do too, I miss lan parties in general
[22:35] <greg-g> :)
[23:30] <rick_h_> well, new users find new bugs
[23:30] <rick_h_> unicode urls fml