=== TheMaster is now known as Unit193 [06:20] you'd think that uninstalling a DHCP client would stop the daemon... === taggerdoodles is now known as paultag [14:46] Ok, unity sucks with less than 4Gb of ram aparently... [14:46] I tried...I really did [14:46] going to stick with xfce I think [14:47] Also, it seems the opensource nvidia driver kinda sucks...crashes alot [14:52] s/with less than 4Gb of ram apparently// [14:55] I dunno, I like Unity [14:55] but it definitely requires bettern than your cheapo Intel card. [14:56] i'm using a decent machine I had been using just to stream video to the tv [14:57] but it's a dualcore athlon 2 3ghz [14:57] only has 2gb of ram currently [14:57] You definitely need more than 2GB for a modern browser. :) [14:57] xfce so far runs great though...but I haven't launched chrome with my billion tabs open yet [14:59] and so starts the swapping [15:06] canthus13: so re: gfx cards...for playing mostly older games you think intel card would be best? [15:06] They get decent opengl performance? [15:07] I may also try wine+steam [15:11] Not for games, no. :P [15:11] haha [15:11] Well, most of the indy games work with my 4500HD. [15:12] so I guess it's between AMD and Nvidia [15:12] but wine/steam is a definite no. [15:12] I know I should like AMD...because Nvidia hasn't played nice with the OSS folks... [15:13] Meh.. screw the OSS whiners. [15:13] I've had excellent luck with nvidia cards. [15:13] -.- [15:13] ITYM screw we free software whiners [15:14] OSS folk are about compromise and quality, less about ethics and freedom and the long view [15:14] They've always worked for me. I really couldn't care less if the driver source is closed. nvidia maintains the drivers themselves. :/ [15:14] yeah, I found them to be a PITA [15:14] dzho: ok. that works. :) [15:15] I maintained a lab full of stuff with nvidia cards back in the day and never much relished the idea that I had to go and rebuild the nvidia modules every time the distro upgraded the kernel [15:15] dzho: I always used envy. [15:16] dunno how well that would work on a large scale, though. but most modern distros will install the non-free drivers if you want them. [15:16] none of that existed then [15:17] I'm not above installing the nvidia drivers on a onesy-twosy basis even now [15:17] and it's a far cry from back in the day when the only way I got my Sound Blaster AWE64 working was by compiling driver code found on a newsgroup, that was posted by a sympathetic Creative engineer. [15:17] but I'm always going to cast a hairy eyeball on it all, because companies tend to do things like abandon product lines [15:18] like, I'm sure you can't get drivers from nvidia for those cards, now. [15:18] * dzho wonders what ever became of those machines [15:19] left that job before we retired the hardware, iirc [15:22] dzho: Nah. you can still get drivers for Nvidia TNT cards. [15:22] i can get like a 1Gb radeon or nvidia for about $40 at microcenter...geez... [15:24] thafreak: only 1Gb? Weak. :P [15:26] I think I could keep all of counter strike in video ram with that ;) [15:26] This is probably a silly question...but would a pcie 2.0 card work in a 1.0 slot? [15:26] I don't think my 16x slot is 2.0 compliant [15:29] canthus13: ah, it must have been this I was thinking of http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/03/26/2240250/nvidia-drops-support-for-its-open-source-driver [20:55] :D http://www.behance.net/gallery/Water-Wigs/4889175 [21:36] Uhh... [22:56] :D :D [23:01] weirdo. :P [23:47] psh, you are just jealous of my awesomeness [23:47] also, I REALLY WISH quassel would get channel notifications >_< === yano is now known as jfriedly_ [23:53] * canthus13 hugs his irssi. less complicated. :) [23:54] Plus it's pure awesome. [23:54] ++ === jfriedly_ is now known as yano