/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/08/23/#ubuntu-us-tn.txt

Svpernova09netritious:00:44
Svpernova09django on virtualmin is punching me in the dick :/00:45
=== TheMaster is now known as Unit193
chris4585so I think flash overheated my laptop and fried my video card :/ http://i.imgur.com/i3kCs.jpg05:07
=== pace_t_zulu is now known as diecaster
=== diecaster is now known as pace_t_zulu
=== pace_t_zulu is now known as jhaitas
=== jhaitas is now known as pace_t_zulu_
=== pace_t_zulu_ is now known as jhaitas
johnhaitasanyone around?05:52
pace_t_zului'm here05:54
chris4585yep06:04
pace_t_zuluhow's it going chris458506:05
johnhaitashow's it going chris06:06
johnhaitaspace_t_zulu is me06:06
pace_t_zulujohnhaitas: is me06:06
chris4585pace_t_zulu, I'm good, but my laptop is somewhat fried06:07
pace_t_zuluchris4585: that sucks06:07
chris4585so how are you?06:07
pace_t_zuluchris4585: which nick you think i should go with?06:07
pace_t_zuluchris4585: i'm well ... sorry to hear about your laptop06:08
chris4585pace_t_zulu, well I know you by pace_t_zulu lol06:08
johnhaitaschris4585: if i were signed in as johnhaitas ... would you know its me?06:08
chris4585yeah06:09
johnhaitaschris4585: or jhaitas ;)06:10
pace_t_zuluchris4585: heard from binarymutant lately?06:11
chris4585not today, but I did yesterday I think06:12
pace_t_zuluchris4585: i haven't heard from him in a while06:12
chris4585so this is what I'm dealing with... http://i.imgur.com/YtawT.jpg06:12
chris4585basically nvidia 8400 sucks :|06:13
johnhaitaschris4585: sorry to hear that06:16
chris4585its alright, I guess time to upgrade or something06:16
johnhaitaschris4585: what version are you running?06:27
chris4585pace_t_zulu, my laptop had 12.10, but I run arch mostly06:37
pace_t_zulucool06:44
wrstpace_t_zulu: binarymutant said he would be gone a couple of weeks i beleive10:25
cyberangertwo12:28
wrstcyberanger: in the south a couple = two :P12:29
wrstand good morning :)12:29
cyberangerhe said as he signed out12:30
cyberanger2012-08-18 10:00:03     binarymutant    alright see ya'll in 2 weeks12:30
cyberanger2012-08-18 10:00:06     <--     binarymutant (~binarymut@unaffiliated/binarymutant) has quit (Quit: leaving)12:30
wrstyep thats what i was basing my statement on :)12:31
netritiousmornin'12:54
netritiousSvpernova09: sorry for the late pong...was youngin's b-day yesterday12:54
netritiousI don't know much of anything about django.12:55
Svpernova09no worries, just expressing frustration >.<12:55
netritiousplayed around with it a few years ago, but not via virtualmin.12:55
Svpernova09Pretty sure my issue is path related, and I don't know enough to fix it, and can't find any recent help for it12:56
netritiousvirtualmin will do that to you...frustrate you I mean12:56
Svpernova09Yeah, I wasn't amused that it's an offered script, but is broken out of hte box.12:58
Svpernova09Especailly since there is a post in 08 or 09 saying htey fixed it.12:58
netritiousthere was something I had to do to make pma work from the script repo, and was path related, but can't recall12:59
* netritious doesn't need or use phpmyadmin much12:59
Svpernova09I use it constantly, and it works fine13:00
netritiousinstalling it with the script installer works fine or phpmyadmin in general works fine?13:01
netritious<--wasn't dissin' phpmyadmin XD13:01
Svpernova09Installing phpmyadmin with the script installer works fine, and it runs fine13:01
netritiousah well then that's fixed. was broken last year.13:02
netritiouswasn't supposed to be but was for me.13:02
Svpernova09ah13:04
cyberangernetritious: PONG13:10
netritioushello cyberanger13:10
* cyberanger is sure he's missed a PING over the years, thought it nice to return it sooner or later, sorry about the latency13:10
cyberangerhow's it going netritious ?13:10
netritiousgood, yourself?13:11
cyberangeram burning the candle from both ends, better than last week when there was a 3rd mess too13:11
cyberangerso getting better13:12
netritiousbetter is good13:14
cyberangerlooking for a solid ICT or IT job, be nice to upgrade my career some13:15
cyberanger^ that's most likely the only noteworthy thing lately too13:16
cyberangerhope your youngin enjoyed his birthday13:16
netritiousty cyberanger13:17
netritiousah, noteworthy...let me see...13:18
netritiousfinished (mostly) with a web dev job using sencha touch 2 and PHP,13:19
netritiousstarted testing debian testing,13:19
netritiousstarted testing modsecurity for apache,13:20
netritiousand I think I'm done. oh and two family members had b-days and got new phones :)13:20
cyberangersencha touch 2, that's gotta be an intresting expirence, and debian testing is nice, my main dist. lately13:20
cyberangermore motorola backflips?13:21
netritiousoh no, no more motus30013:21
netritioussamsung captivate glide, iphone 3gs, no-name candybar 'texter' for the youngin13:22
cyberangerguessing the captivate is yours13:23
netritiousno, i'm switching to apple13:23
netritiouslol13:24
netritiousj/k of course cyberanger13:24
wrstoh noes netritious :)13:25
netritiousyeah, got them all on the cheap with a contract renewal13:25
netritiousI had been waiting for the b-days to come round13:26
netritious*I waited until the b-days came around13:27
netritiouswife has had sony walkman phone since '0613:27
cyberangernetritious: I broke out in hives the other night, and you just nearly gave me a heart attack13:28
netritious*sony ericsson walkman13:28
cyberangerlol13:28
netritiouswhat? how's that13:28
cyberangerthinking you went to the dark side, nearly gave me a heart attack, did they try to tempt you with apple flavored cake13:29
cyberanger(dunno about the hives, suspect spiderbite or previously (and still) unknown food allergy)13:29
netritiousoh I ate the cake, it was good to. then I left and went back to what I was doing lol13:30
cyberangernice13:30
cyberangerlol13:30
netritiousapple makes good tech but it's for everyday regular joe users.13:31
cyberangerand they don't really want you to be a power user (or else jailbreaking shouldn't be such a process)13:33
netritiousexactly.13:33
netritiousto much need to control, which is why I think I might be ready to ditch winders, at least as any main OS to do anything with.13:34
* wrst feels like an advanced user today :)13:34
wrstcome on netritious win 8 gives you all the control!13:34
netritiousi'll still keep it installed somewhere since I have some apps I use on winders but otherwise I just don't need it.13:35
cyberangerummm, wrst I don't know wether to laugh or facepalm at that one13:35
cyberangerwindows 8 is a joke13:36
cyberangerthe RTM is better than the beta's an RC's before it, but come on windows13:36
cyberangeryou just don't get it13:36
wrstcyberanger: let them stink :)13:36
netritiouswindows 8 is about Microsoft attempting to regain/retain (depending on who you ask) market control.13:37
netritiousEFI and Windows 8 RT is proof.13:38
netritiouslocking the software to the hardware is ass backwards.13:38
wrstthey are copying apple?13:39
netritiousyep, step for step it seems13:39
wrstso much for innovations :)13:39
Svpernova09I bet apple could release windows 8 metro feature and people would claim it's the greatest thing ever.13:39
netritiouslol13:40
wrstSvpernova09: agreed13:40
cyberangermetro with the mighty finder13:40
* cyberanger couldn't type that with a straight face13:40
Svpernova09I liked finder >.>13:40
cyberangersorry for the collerital damage then13:44
Svpernova09meh, I've never met a OS X box I didn't like.13:45
netritiouson the floor next to me I have a P4 2.4GHz, 512MB DDR - 64MB shared on-board video, 20GB IDE ATA33 HDD, on-board realtek 10/100 NIC and audio...13:48
netritiousrunning 12.04.1 like a champ. watching rhianna on youtube right now :P13:49
Svpernova09If it's playing Rhianna, you have bigger issues than linux to worry about.13:49
Svpernova09>.>13:49
netritioushahaha13:49
netritious<.<13:50
* cyberanger is glad he didn't have to say that13:50
xTEMPLARxlol13:50
netritiousit's going to a family i know.13:50
cyberangerSvpernova09: now the question is, which is the bigger issue, rhianna or adobe flash13:51
netritiouslast thing I need is for some 10 year old to find /my/ typical browser history :P13:51
xTEMPLARxif flash crashes, you can restart the system.  You can't unlisten/unsee Rhianna13:51
cyberangernetritious: why, I loved orphcrack when I was 1013:52
netritiousomg rhianna is hawt, get over it. XD13:52
netritiousi didn't say I was listening to rhianna, I said I am watching rhianna >.>13:53
cyberangerxTEMPLARx: so rhianna is more unstable than flash, I didn't think anybody would ever find anything more unstable than flash13:53
cyberangerah, so pulseaudio is having a bug, some symlink issue involving /dev/null ? ;-)13:53
netritiouswell Svpernova09's here cyberanger, so we don't have to look far for unstable13:54
netritious<.<13:54
xTEMPLARxnot necessarily more unstable, but definitely more harmful to your system, cyberanger :D13:55
cyberangerlol13:58
cyberangernetritious: true true, all I need is a mirror13:58
cyberangerand a nametag with the debian logo, in the name spot: "Sid"13:58
netritiousSee, perfect example of hawt Rhianna: http://goo.gl/zPOD13:59
netritious^safe for work13:59
netritious::cough::14:01
* netritious hears a pin drop14:06
netritiousthere doesn't seem to be a performance gain using unity 2D and flash vs. unity 3D and flash.14:10
wrstnetritious: i suppose i dislike unity so much i would never know :)14:14
wrstand netritiousdid you just rick roll us?14:14
* wrst loves the web preview in quassel :)14:15
netritiouslol, yes, I did wrst14:15
wrstha ha good one netritious14:15
* wrst clicks on the link to complete the process14:15
* wrst sings never gonna give you up ... never gonna let you go...14:16
netritiouslol14:17
wrstwell netritious i must say however with me being critical of unity i am really enjoying my minimal ubuntu install with gnome-shell14:19
netritiousthat's cool wrst14:24
netritiouswhat hardware?14:24
xTEMPLARxnetritious I laughed.  At least you didn't post this one:  http://bit.ly/SY8sJR14:24
wrstnetritious: asus af52? i think laptop14:24
wrstintel vidoe i think quad core processor 8GB of ram something along those lines14:25
wrstfairly modern laptop14:25
wrstand xTEMPLARx hello14:25
netritiousxTEMPLARx: that would have been more fun14:25
* wrst takes xTEMPLARx's bate14:25
xTEMPLARxyour definition of fun is different than mine I suppose. :D14:25
xTEMPLARxand g'mornin' wrst14:25
wrstoh no i don't xTEMPLARx that was a nickel back link14:25
netritious::cough::14:25
wrsti'm really thankfull or quassel's previes now14:25
netritious::sarcasm::14:26
xTEMPLARxso, on facebook14:26
xTEMPLARxgibson guitar has a giveaway going right now14:26
xTEMPLARxa very pretty black les paul14:26
xTEMPLARxbut its signed by nickelback14:27
wrstxTEMPLARx: you aren't yanking my chain are you?14:27
* wrst could have that refinished14:27
xTEMPLARxand 75% of the comments are "WHY ARE YOU RUINING A NICE GUITAR" sort of comments14:27
xTEMPLARxpeople are saying that too, wrst :D14:27
wrstha ha14:27
wrstyou know xTEMPLARx that looks like a les paul special they aren't that expensive anyway14:28
xTEMPLARxhttp://www.facebook.com/GibsonGuitar14:28
xTEMPLARxfree is free, wrst14:28
xTEMPLARxand even a low end american gibson is more expensive than I have to throw at such things these days14:29
wrstyes i know xTEMPLARx but if its an 800 buck guitar and it cost 300 bucks to have nickelback taken off of it you just gain 500 bucks and the shame14:29
wrstok one picture i see is a standard i would endure it for a les paul standard :)14:30
xTEMPLARxI own my own sanders and such.  So it wouldn't be much of a chore :D  Still.14:31
wrstahh ok its a les paul studio yeah that's worth it :)14:31
xTEMPLARxand its a les paul studio14:31
xTEMPLARxyeah14:31
wrstwould be much cooler to have won a slash guitar :)14:31
xTEMPLARxindeed!14:31
wrstso looks like i have 4 in 58,000 or so odds14:32
wrstbetter than the lottery?14:33
netritiousmuch better than the lottery14:33
wrstxTEMPLARx: i unchecked "Please add me to Nickelback's newsletter" :)14:33
wrstnetritious: ^^14:33
netritiouslol14:34
xTEMPLARxsame here, wrst :D14:34
xTEMPLARxhttp://bit.ly/SYbgXa14:34
netritiousxTEMPLARx: I forgot to smile a minute ago...14:34
netritious*::sarcasm:: XD14:34
* netritious needs more coffee14:35
wrsteverytime i try to do something like this guitar giveaway facebook fails me14:38
xTEMPLARxhow so?14:39
xTEMPLARxI've signed up to so many giveaways thru gibson and fendera14:39
xTEMPLARxfender*14:39
xTEMPLARxand their subsidiaries as well14:39
xTEMPLARxi don't never win nothin!14:39
netritiousxTEMPLARx: did you say you were a telecaster man?14:39
xTEMPLARxnot so much a telecaster man as I'm gonna MAKE one14:40
xTEMPLARxstill workin on my joining skills14:40
xTEMPLARxneed to find time to go back out to the shop14:40
xTEMPLARxI've roughed out one body... it was easier than I thought it'd be14:40
netritiousvery cool14:40
xTEMPLARxone thing I dig about the tele, though, is it's a very good base framework for whatever you might want14:41
xTEMPLARxyou can make'em out of any wood that you'd want to, and in any pickup/control configuration14:41
xTEMPLARxits a very simple design so it lends itself well to customization14:41
wrstxTEMPLARx: i think a tele is a real comfortable body to play14:43
wrstit isn't so slim that it slides around like a strat but isn't so chunky like a les paul i really like the body14:44
wrstand xTEMPLARx, netritious talks about women as we talk about guitars...14:44
xTEMPLARxlol14:45
netritiouslol14:46
wrsti have told my wife that it is possible i could leave her for a guitar but for everything else she should feel very secure14:49
xTEMPLARxXD14:55
cyberangerspeaking of music, now eddie murphy has me playing the police15:32
cyberangerROOXXXXXXANNNNNE15:32
cyberangerand idk, I'd keep the nickelback signature, wait till he either hit's another platnum or till he's in TMZ as a drunk15:34
cyberangerthen sell it for 150015:34
cyberangerhello gld1982ltd15:35
gld1982ltdHi all.15:35
gld1982ltdEveryone cool today?15:35
cyberangernot as much as usual15:35
cyberangerwas better at 3am15:35
gld1982ltdreallly, what was going on at 3am?15:36
gld1982ltdwhat did i miss while dreaming?15:36
cyberangerI work nights15:36
gld1982ltdah...i see15:36
gld1982ltdanyone here that was here when i was last? i was talking about a menu editor and packaging.15:38
wrstgld1982ltd: yes for lxcde if i remember correctly?15:39
wrst*lxde15:39
gld1982ltdyes. update. I couldn't figure out how to package it because it has no makefile or any other regular source files. i did get a deb package, but from my understanding it will not do for getting the software included into debian/ubuntu repositories. so, the project goes on.15:40
gld1982ltdsince then i have picked up a new much easier project for the time being. a weblauncher project. i haven't started the ppa yet, but i got the idea from another ppa. the original owner said he has no time and will  have no time to update these weblaunchers. i have been given the project. weblaunchers are simple desktop files that are installed to /usr/share/applications that link to various sites on the web.15:44
gld1982ltdi use a custom lubuntu and i know many people aren't satisfied with unity. also, lubuntu and xubuntu users can't sue the new online services software for ubuntu. the weblaunchers can give us a way to access our favorite sites from our system menu.15:46
gld1982ltdi have copied the original weblaunchers to my personal ppa for my use. you can check them out if you want. https://launchpad.net/~gld1982ltd/+archive/ppa15:48
gld1982ltdsoon there will be a dedicated weblauncher ppa for all to use. i will add new weblaunchers and also make a team so others can contribute. i would like to implement a way to create an extra section in the system menu named weblaunchers and have the weblaunchers under that section. that is in the future though. really anyone using linux can use these......what do you all think?15:50
wrstgld1982ltd: and on packaging if netritious is still around he might be able to offer some advice i think he has experience15:53
wrstgld1982ltd: on the project itself i must admit i don't know much i don't use lxde but sounds fun :)15:53
gld1982ltdwrst: i think it is. what do you think about the weblaunchers?15:56
wrstweblaunchers in general don't really excite me but i know thats something i have been reading about with unity too so its probably a good idea15:57
wrstso obviously its a popular thing15:57
* wrst is weird15:57
gld1982ltdsweet...15:57
* gld1982ltd is called weird....but thinks he is normal.15:59
wrstha ha gld1982ltd16:00
wrstunless i'm missing something here i don't see a lot of difference between adding a web launcher and just having a bookmark16:01
wrstbut i know i'm in the minority in taht :)16:03
alyawnis a weblauncher just an app that has a browser widget16:03
gld1982ltdright, but bookmarks don't go in your system menu or on your panel. it would be cool if there was an applet to implement your bookmarks into the menu or panel or whatever.16:03
gld1982ltda weblauncher opens a link in your web browser.16:04
wrstbut i always have a browser open :)16:05
wrsti guess integrating your bookmarks could be ok16:05
gld1982ltdi don't use them much at the moment, mainly the facebook one and google docs one. however, i will be using them in the future to give my kids easy visual links to sites on the web. these weblaunchers will be dependencies of a kids-weblauncher metapackage. i figured i would let others put whatever they want in there. i would then organize them into metapackages.16:07
gld1982ltdi always close my browser when i am done. i have a family of 4 and we all (except for the 3 year old) have our own google accounts and use our own chromium accounts. so, we close our browser so whoever is next can open theirs.16:08
gld1982ltdthis is the setup on all of my computers.16:08
cyberangersorry, some phone calls got in the way, reading backlog16:21
cyberangergld1982ltd: your a programmer I take it, I mess with just enough perl tcl & bash to feel my head go16:26
cyberanger(but if I'm handed some resistors, capicators, wire & a soldering gun, or some server with ton's of config files, I feel at home, I'll get to coding someday)16:27
cyberangernetritious: are you CCNA or Network+?16:28
gld1982ltdcyberanger: i am trying my hand at programming in python, gtk, and bash. i am self taught at anything i do, including web development. i am looking into getting into school for programming and web development, but for now i teach myself. i am a stay at home dad for now (have been for some time now) so i get to study whenever i have a chance.16:33
cyberangergld1982ltd: I've had classes, but I never learned that way, at least not out of the offical lesson plans16:35
cyberangerin high school I did webdev, did my work a week ahead of the class typically & the rest of the week "studied" the network, while fixing the lab printers when asked16:36
cyberangerran linux live discs on the hardware (stupid rulebreaking teen back then, did just enough to keep out of trouble though)16:37
cyberangerself taught circuts & soldering & such getting my ham license16:38
cyberangerI understand self-taught better than anything else, wish you luck on your lessons16:38
gld1982ltdthanks!16:44
cyberangergtk & python, I can think of a project that might be worth helping & learning from16:46
cyberangerkeryx project (they have a channel on freenode too, #keryx )16:46
cyberangerit's an offline update tool for debian, ubuntu & derived distros)16:55
gld1982ltdlooks interesting, but can't one just download the debs and install them the same way? or does this app dl all dependencies at the same time?16:58
cyberangerit seperates apt from the internet connection, updates & installs, checks & fetches dependencies too17:00
* cyberanger used to jokingly call it apt-get over sneakernet to the developer17:00
* gld1982ltd snickers17:01
cyberangerit's a great project though, college & linux isn't always easy, othertimes it's too easy17:02
gld1982ltdi will look into it more. cool.17:03
cyberangerused to be my access to internet was much more intermittent, and unfortunately I didn't have (or at least know about) these efforts then17:03
cyberangernowadays even it's still useful17:03
gld1982ltdi'd still like to develop an app to configure conky and choose which conkies to run. i can't understand why this hasn't been done yet. is there an ideas channel for ubuntu? i have a million of them for the right programmers.17:04
cyberangerHonestly, If I were to guess, it's due to the fact most conkyrc files are unique17:11
cyberangercustom17:12
gld1982ltdright, but couldn't there be an app that lets you define the custom actions and it makes the conkyrc for you?17:12
cyberangerthat's not to say it isn't worthwhile, just why it hasn't been done17:12
cyberangeryeah, it's not a code issue, it's just motivation (or lack of) the right motivation to the right programmer17:14
gld1982ltdi hear ya....well, once i know my code i will definitely develop it if no one else has by then. conky can be used for so much cool stuff.17:16
gld1982ltdi think it would be better if the app had specific "conky widgets" installed and gave the user options on where to place the widgets on the screen. this would provide sort of the same functionality as screenlets, but with conky. new widgets can be created and installed to the app.17:18
gld1982ltda community of conky users could be organized and the community can contribute to make conky widgets.17:19
gld1982ltdlaunchpad - https://launchpad.net/~tennessee.team  team portal - http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/tennessee.team  forum - http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=259  website - http://www.ubuntu-tennessee.org17:22
gld1982ltdoops....sorry....meant that for another window.17:22
gld1982ltdand yes.....i'm talking about you.....17:23
* gld1982ltd winks and snickers17:23
gld1982ltdi am having a wiki page created for me so i can join the lubuntu team.17:24
Svpernova09rawr17:30
Svpernova09virtualmin...why do you hate me...17:31
alyawnis rsync the best way to mirror files between servers? Seems like I used to use something else lmirror or something... can't remember17:31
cyberangerI prefer rsync17:34
alyawncan rsync work over ftp?17:39
cyberangeruh, not without help17:41
alyawnthats why I used lmirror, I guess...17:41
alyawnoh wait... lftp... that's what it was17:43
Svpernova09netritious: need to test some stuff, but I believe I've got django on virtualmin figured out.17:46
netritiousawesome Svpernova09...share the fix! :)19:50
wrsthello chris458520:03
chris4585hey wrst20:03
wrstand i might as well say hello to ChanServ to keep up the streak20:03
wrstdoing ok chris4585?20:03
chris4585lol20:03
chris4585ChanServ, is probably glad to be with us aswell20:03
chris4585I'm good, wrst have you heard of http://blog.manjaro.org/about/ ?20:04
wrstno but that looks interesting20:04
wrstwonder if you can install that then switch over to arch repos?20:05
chris4585I'm not sure, but it did state that it is 100% compatible with arch, so I assume it would be just like installing updates after a few months20:07
wrstchris4585: hmm looks cool20:28
wrstbut must say after doing the nestinstall of ubuntu i'm pretty happy, but it doesn't roll like arch :)20:28
chris4585yeah, I just thought I'd mention it20:37
wrsti will likely go back to straight arch when i have the time to mess with it but for now ubuntu is workin20:37
wrstand i must say having the software center is nice20:38
chris4585wrst, I wish software center would work when I used it :/21:19
Unit193Why not just use apt-get?21:20
wrstUnit193: i like apt-get but somethings say dropbox software center does all the dirty work for you21:20
chris4585I do, I'm just emphasizing how bad software center is lol21:20
wrstchris4585: have you tried it lately?21:20
Unit193Dirty work?21:21
chris4585yes, and it still has the same bugs, while removing or installing software it refreshes every 2 seconds and makes doing anything else in it impossible21:21
chris4585it works, but if I want to install or remove 20 things at once it is a nightmare21:21
wrsthmm i have not had that issue, i go select install this it works on that then i say install this it ques it up21:22
wrstmaybe i haven't done anything heavy duty enough21:22
chris4585wrst, I forgot to mention my laptop seems to be useless now.. http://i.imgur.com/YtawT.jpg21:22
chris4585the bios and everything is displayed like this now.. :/21:22
netritiousthat sux chris4585 :/21:23
netritioustried external monitor?21:24
wrstchris4585: i take it that a six monitor in one is not desired :(21:24
netritiousoh I see it there21:24
chris4585yeah I got nothing, but I think that was due to not having the nvidia packages installed possibly... gnome display settings didn't detect any monitors when plugged in21:25
chris4585wrst, correct ;/21:25
netritiousdid you try to  enable via func keys? you probably did, just asking21:25
Svpernova09netritious: https://twitter.com/svpernova09/status/23869206421112832121:26
Svpernova09Paths are hard >.<21:26
netritiouslmao21:27
netritiousawesome hash tag21:27
Svpernova09Really should be something in the docs to fix that.21:28
Svpernova09Or at least spit out a warning21:28
netritiousPost in the forums or send to their mailing list...I'm pretty sure they have a mailing list although I don't subscribe21:29
netritiousI think they may even have an IRC channel21:29
Svpernova09http://www.virtualmin.com/node/23146#comment-10467421:30
netritiousah21:30
Svpernova09I had posted to their forums, then figured it out shortly after21:30
Svpernova09I found the fix by browsing their django issue tickets and reading the troubleshooting steps21:31
Svpernova09Should have done that last night >.<21:31
Svpernova09I blasted out this VM like 5 times trying to fix it.21:31
netritiousholy crap21:31
Svpernova09I keep a snapshot at a fresh install.21:32
netritiousthe up side is it's fixed now :)21:32
Svpernova09So fresh in fact, took me 20 minutes of slamming at root to remeber I hadn't set that password yet.21:32
netritiousargh21:33
netritiousI started doing "shelf" type versions of installs, then cloning from that.21:35
netritious I take snapshots between package upgrades of the shelved image.21:35
netritiousnothing but "base" gets installed. I now have ubuntu, debian, arch, suse, and centos21:37
netritiousalso figured out how to mount the disk image from the host and do whatever...chroot, add/change/delete files, etc.21:40
netritiouskpartx + mount = awesome sauce21:40
Svpernova09Nice21:40
netritiousand by clone I  mean rsync -Sa --progress foo.img foo.img.SNAPSHOT_YYYYMMDD_HHMM21:42
netritiouss/clone/snapshot/21:45
netritiousfor clone it's rsync -Sa --progress foo.img bar.img21:46
netritiousvirt-manager allows you to clone also, but works differently.21:46

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!