[05:06] bbl guys [05:06] jhb today === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [08:03] hi superfly and others [08:03] all others [08:03] lurkers too [08:03] Hey Kilos [08:05] ninring [08:05] anyone playing capture the flag at https://stripe-ctf.com [08:05] nirning = morning [08:05] ? [08:09] seriously Freenode, that's enough [08:10] What did freenode do now? [08:13] Trixar_za: this ping timeout thing... there's a pattern to it, if you look at the number of seconds [08:15] Of course there is. But it's a ratbox derivative so it shouldn't be so bad. Well compared to say UnrealIRCd. [08:26] Good afternoon all [08:26] morning peeps [08:26] hi DigiGram [08:28] hi DigiGram, zeref_work [08:29] goeie morgen [08:29] Maaz: coffee on [08:29] * Maaz puts the kettle on [08:30] Maaz, coffee please [08:30] DigiGram: Yessir [08:33] Coffee's ready for charlvn and DigiGram! [08:33] Maaz, your the best [08:33] DigiGram: What? [08:33] Maaz, thanx [08:33] DigiGram: Sorry... [08:39] Maaz, coffee please [08:39] Kilos: There isn't a pot on [08:39] sigh [08:40] Maaz, coffee on [08:40] * Maaz washes some mugs [08:40] hi SilverCode [08:40] Hi Kilos [08:41] hi charlvn DigiGram zeref_work Trixar_za [08:41] hi Kilos [08:41] hmmm [08:42] strange greeting for an articulate person [08:43] hi Kilos :) [08:43] hmmm [08:43] lol [08:43] lol [08:44] last night was a mere, comp keep crashing gnome-shell segfaults [08:44] s/crashing/crashing,/ [08:44] eish [08:44] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [08:44] kerpt [08:44] kept [08:44] you dont use unity zeref_work [08:45] gnome shell is gnome 3 hey? [08:45] nope, didn't fit well with me. [08:45] with or without top and bottom panels [08:46] unity and gnome-shell both sit on gnome 3 :) just different shells [08:46] well it seems slower to go launcher and dash all the time [08:46] gnome-shell only has a top panel [08:47] wonder why they dropped the bottom one. was useful adding lotsa workspaces there [08:47] the issue for me was when i hovered over to the dash, it would take bout 3 seconds to become visible [08:48] gnome-shell workspaces are dynamic [08:48] i dunno what that means [08:48] it's starts with 2, then if you add a program to the second workpaces a third one appears [08:49] with them in bottom panel i could click to the running app i wanted [08:49] oh and where does it show them? [08:49] on the right, but only if you go to the activities section [08:50] *top left* [08:50] hmm [08:50] i really liked gnome2 [08:50] was easy for me to use [08:53] true, with the shell, i'm more productive, keyboard short-cut keys ftw [08:54] whats the keybpoard shortcut to switch workspaces [08:54] and then its through the list hey [08:54] not each individual one [08:55] i have 9 and last is for mail 8 is pidgin 7 is xchat 1 is iftop [08:55] that leaves 5 to do other things on [08:56] Crtl+Alt + arrow keys [08:56] with unitys launcher one can at least go to the app running [08:57] ctrl+alt+ws number could work for me [08:59] also, when i ways using unity, the dash section would not show a list of applications, even when i searched [08:59] s/ways/was/ [09:01] yeah you gotta type the one you want in [09:01] lotsa time wasted [09:01] yeah, but noting popped up :/ [09:01] *nothing [09:02] eish [09:04] mine at least shows whats available when you get to 3rd letter [09:13] * superfly is wondering what a "mere" is [09:14] in what context superfly [09:14] as in a thing [09:14] last night was a mere, comp keep crashing gnome-shell segfaults [09:14] lol [09:14] not sure what a "comp" is either, but that one I deduce to be a "computer" [09:15] ya pc [09:15] peeps lazy to type [09:19] hi :) [09:24] hi smile psydroid [09:24] hi Kilos psydroid :p [09:25] hi Kilos of smile [09:25] Kilos van smile? o.O [09:25] hehe [09:26] Kilos: you are my property :p [09:26] You belong to me. lol xD [09:27] i belong to the big boss [09:27] who made heaven and earth [09:28] hey guys, stupid question, but what is a good Antivirus for ubuntu? And don't give me the: "you don't need one", since the auditors doesn't understand it [09:28] DigiGram: lol [09:28] I have never put an antivirus onto my pc :P [09:29] maybe ClamAV? never used it, even on windows [09:29] it's actually the only linux AV I know of [09:29] ...or can think of at this point in time [09:30] Kilos: :) [09:30] the problem is I need to name the Antivirus and the Firewall I'm using, and the auditors are pharmacists whose computer knowledge stops at Excell (not all pharmacists, only these 80+ yo ones) [09:31] DigiGram: oh look here [09:31] http://free.avg.com/us-en/download.prd-alf [09:31] I'm going to get bitten by the fact that the server works over WiFi, so I'll have to explain that already, don't want to get into an argument over AV, so I'll rather just install one [09:31] I also thought AVG makes one [09:31] never tried it on linux [09:31] internet is just a bit shaky today, upgrades [09:32] avg is junk [09:32] for some reason my IRC works [09:32] lol Kilos [09:32] avast much better [09:32] I've used AVG free for years [09:33] avg slows your pc tons Squirm . check out avast free and see the diffs [09:33] avg free is fine [09:33] I'll get ClamAV [09:33] Yeah, I agree with Squirm [09:34] its more for the smoke and mirros than anything else [09:34] eskom and their contractors etc all use avast because of bugs getting through avg [09:34] the paid avg, that's hectic [09:34] clamav is in the repos [09:34] I also don't install link scanner and id protection [09:34] For windows, AVG is the best free AV program ;P [09:34] and gufw firewall [09:34] never Trixar_za [09:35] how do I get the firewall's name in ubuntu? stupid Q I know [09:35] ufw [09:35] or gufw graphic [09:35] The best paid option is Kaspersky [09:35] DigiGram: ufw = Ubuntu Firewall [09:36] thanx [09:36] Well, Avast isn't bad, but I still prefer AVG :P [09:36] I used not32 for less than a month a few years back [09:37] otherwise I've been using avg free [09:37] Don't you mean Nod32? [09:37] itsn't ufw installed by default? [09:37] Trixar_za, if you get onto a slower pc you will see how avg kills performance [09:37] zeref_work: should be [09:37] avast doesnt [09:37] Trixar_za: I don't know how the t got in there [09:37] my mind must have wandered mid word [09:38] Kilos: Not as bad as... Norton [09:38] lol [09:38] * Squirm hides [09:38] run for your lives! [09:38] * Kilos runs [09:38] AV which must not be named... has been named! [09:39] DigiGram, is this on a ubuntu pc? [09:39] yes it is Kilos [09:39] then use whats in the repos [09:39] anyways. I'm off for a bit. if I don't see you all later, I'll be on my way to jbh [09:39] bye Squirm [09:39] jb [09:39] jhb [09:39] avast has a version for linux but i couldnt get it to work [09:39] I wonder if I should be driving [09:39] I'm trying Kilos, something wrong with that pc's inet though [09:39] * Squirm ponders [09:39] :P [09:39] toods Squirm [09:40] Later Squirm [09:40] :p [09:40] Maaz, google best antivirus for ubuntu 12.04 [09:40] Kilos: "Top things to do after installing Ubuntu 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin ..." http://www.unixmen.com/201204-top-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-2/ :: "[SOLVED] VirtualBox - Best anti-virus? - Ubuntu Forums" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2000569 :: "List of Free Antivirus Software for Ubuntu 12.04 (Precise Pangolin ..." http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/list-of-free-antivirus-software-for-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/ : [09:40] virtualbox??? [09:41] thats if you got winsucks in a box [09:41] a virtual drive in your ubuntu with ms on [09:42] I prefer vmware over virtualbox [10:00] cool, ClamAV installed, now I just need to remember to connect this pc to the internet once in a while [10:00] lol [10:01] Well, an AV program isn't really needed for a Linux system. Linux can't get windows viruses and there are only a handful of Linux viruses out there - but they need to ask your permission before they can do any REAL damage. [10:02] I know Trixar_za thats why I didn't bother with this earlier on, but the auditors wan't to see an AV [10:03] Ah, management [10:03] Got to Love 'em [10:03] :P [10:04] Can't open/parse the config file... ai tog [10:05] Where is the config file? [10:05] /etc/clamav/freshclam.conf going to check perms quickly [10:18] you can use clamtk for a graphic interface [10:18] or whatever its called [10:18] sudo aptitude install clamtk [10:18] installing [10:19] but as long as I can prove it is installed (clamscan -V) its fine [10:19] lol oh wont they wanna see it [10:20] cli will be hard for them [10:21] I must just make screenshot of the terminal with $clamscan -V and $ufw version then they are fine [10:21] ah [10:21] and maybe the crontab [10:31] Wait [10:31] You just need screenshots of the terminal commands - so it doesn't have to be real? Oo [10:32] Oh wait. Management. Nevermind [10:32] lol [10:33] should the need arise to check it, it should be here [10:38] lol. You could probably write a simple bash script that uses sleep and they won't be able to tell [10:39] lol yeah [10:39] but its easier to just install ClamAV [10:39] update once a month [10:39] and run daily via cron [10:42] bbnn [10:57] bbl === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za === smile is now known as smile-evenweg === DigiGram_ is now known as DigiGram === smile-evenweg is now known as smile-bezig [11:50] bye everyone :) [11:51] toods smile-bezig [11:51] :D [12:02] http://www.hellopeter.com/virgin-active-south-africa/complaints/virgin-actime-renew-contract-after-i-asked-to-stop-876473 [12:02] darn, spelling error in the title, ai ai [12:12] who is a dropbox expert here?? [12:12] can ian get stuff straight off my pc with it or must stuff go up there like ubuntuone?? [12:13] as far as I know is drobbox just as Google Drive (and I guess ubuntuone) [12:13] you need to upload what you want people to access [12:15] ty DigiGram [12:15] all the dropbox users arent here [12:16] 3months worth of work, zipped to a mere 37.7KB :( [12:17] and 18.9KB of that is the company logo they gave me... [12:20] what was the project? [12:21] lol [12:22] almost like a point of sale application but with some extra logging, specified forms for certain operations and some form of stock keeping [12:22] done in Python, so its all text files [12:55] hmmm [12:56] Kilos: dropbox is just like ubuntuone, basically it's a simple application that is set to synchronise a local folder with an online storage server [12:56] why not use something like sqlite [12:56] DigiGram: ^^ [12:57] ty inetpro just trying to work my way through all the tour and stuff [12:57] grrr [12:57] nothing simple and straight forward [12:57] zeref It would've takem me longer to figure out how to write a frontend for a sqlite database [12:58] oh, so there is no gui? [12:58] but i do agree in the end it would've been better, I just don't have the time to learn sql right now [12:59] the gui is done in PyQt and uses secured flatfiles [12:59] cross platform? [12:59] it is, but its only going to be used no Winblows [13:01] Kilos: you just create a folder in the ~/Dropbox folder and share it with the other party and when he accepts the share you will get a notification, once that is confirmed any file you drop in there will eventually be seen by that person [13:01] or the other way around [13:03] the only trouble you might run into is if you're using KDE, this stuff is not built for KDE yet [13:04] but it's not rocket science and can be made to work for KDE [13:04] lol [13:05] ty inetpro its getting the folder from here to the one up there that sucks [13:05] Kilos: now you may have top rephrase, not sure I understand your message [13:05] to rephrase* [13:06] the uploading part? [13:06] i am there with my browser [13:06] ya [13:07] huh? [13:07] he is using the webinterface? [13:07] now its downloading dropbox for the third time [13:07] grrr [13:08] hmm... [13:08] when i try open it here it says i gotta use some demon stuff [13:08] the demon stuff are the worst! [13:08] rather go for something with a cleaner spirit... [13:08] lol [13:08] sorry, just had to [13:08] Kilos: did you not install nautilus-dropbox ? [13:09] yay at long last it is actually opening here [13:09] lol [13:10] Kilos: and what was wrong with ubuntuone? Why not just stick with that? [13:10] good afternoon [13:10] hi inetpro, long time no speak you [13:11] *speak to [13:11] hi Kilos, DigiGram [13:11] hi charlvn [13:11] hi charlvn [13:11] um [13:12] hi charlvn [13:12] looking for an easier way inetpro [13:12] stuffup by ian [13:12] I love Hellopeter.... easiest way to sort issues out... [13:12] Kilos: what can be easier, it's exactly the same process [13:12] i gave him my ubuntuone info so he could get in as me and take stuff [13:13] it is extremely easy [13:13] now he cant get in to ubuntuone as him because win7 wont completely remove all stuff from ubuntuone [13:14] so he cant get himself there [13:14] the one is just called ubuntuone and the other happens to be called dropbox [13:14] both work across platforms [13:14] no amount of add/remove and registry cleaners has been successful yet [13:15] thats why i am on dropbox because of the hassles with ubuntuone on his pc [13:15] I prefer Google Drive, with absolutely no good argument for it... [13:15] hehe [13:17] yay [13:18] found a tiny icon on top panel and there is the dropbox thing [13:18] why didnt it open straight away [13:18] grrr [13:20] 23/08 15:08:59 Kilos: did you not install nautilus-dropbox ? [13:21] that was the first thing i installed inet` [13:21] inetpro, [13:21] so what happens when you right-click on the dropbox icon? [13:22] in dash i get nothing from right clicking anything [13:22] Kilos: not in dash [13:23] in the top panel [13:23] open folder, launch website [13:23] and more [13:23] and then you click 'open folder'? [13:24] and then you get what? [13:24] photos, public , wolf and more [13:25] ok, so what is the problem? [13:25] man i didnt see that tiny icon up there [13:25] ahh [13:25] :-) [13:26] when you go dash + app it must open not got hide a tiny icon in top panel [13:26] nee [13:26] everything else open the app [13:26] opens [13:26] this is not a normal app [13:27] this thing makes i tiny icon in top panel [13:27] lolol i noticed [13:27] it's a backend service [13:27] you're not supposed to mess with it [13:27] but i have it now [13:27] will know where to find it [13:27] eish [13:28] how do you use it then if you not going to open it [13:28] you just drop a file in the correct folder and forget [13:28] lol ya if the folders are open [13:29] ty inetpro [13:29] Kilos: np [13:29] now to try it ou5 [13:29] out as well [13:29] Kilos: you can even do it on the cli [13:30] nee man gonoeg is genoeg [13:30] just go vi a test file in a dropbox folder and a few moments later you should see the same file on the web interface or any systems linked to the account [13:31] lemme drag and drop the things info [13:31] sjoe ek sukkel met my volk [13:31] just be aware of the continues communication between your PC and dropbox to ensure that everything is in sync both ways all the time [13:32] as soon as ian has what he wants i gonna remove dropbox and ubuntuone [13:33] why? [13:33] dont need stuff online not working [13:33] it's got it's good purposes, it's free, use it [13:34] just manage your data [13:35] * bakuman is mal oor sy dropbox [13:35] lol yo bakuman [13:36] hi :D [13:41] I accidently set cubby (tried all sorts of online syncing etc) folder as my desktop and uploaded about 5GB's of data... not on my uncapped account... [13:42] eish [13:43] that can only hurt [13:45] luckily I had some extra gigs that carried over from the previous month [13:45] but our uploads are VERY slow, so I can just wonder how long it took... [14:15] cheers, enjoy your evenings [14:16] cheers DigiGram === DigiGram is now known as DigiGram-awau [14:16] you only come erew days?? === DigiGram-awau is now known as DigiGram-away [14:16] here as well [14:18] p.s. for now yes, helping my wife with some projects, so don't have time in the evenings to chat [14:19] when I get my electronics up and running again I can sit and chat/help/lurk in the evenings [14:47] hehe === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [16:23] and they called him charley [16:23] he fell outa the sky like the winds of july [16:36] It alsways surprises me when people try running Windows programs on a Linux system and then asks "Why didn't it work?" [16:36] always* [16:37] I know it shouldn't surprise me anymore, but it does. [16:54] hehe [16:55] is pc suite pcsuite for xp or has each make of fone got their own pc suite [16:57] ? [17:02] !#$%@*! [17:03] firefox keeps crashing, and there is nothing in the logs...:/ [17:03] Clear the cookies and cache [17:04] For some reason that works (you may have to start it in safe mode) [17:05] yep, i did that [17:05] :( [17:06] i go eat [17:07] Kilos: have a good meal [17:07] :) [17:07] Then I have no clue. Firefox has become a real pain the last few years [17:12] I dunno, for me it hasn't... Chrome on the other hand... [17:12] I'm using Firefox for most of the websites I visit :) [17:13] But I need Google Chrome for Flash content [17:13] I don't like to fuck up Firefox with Flash :p [17:14] Ah I see Firefox is at 14.0.1 now [17:14] i had a flash update last night.....hmmmmmm [17:14] * Trixar_za just updated from Firefox 11 [17:23] Trixar_za: yes :) [17:24] I'm following the development closely :) [17:24] To update the Mozilla Firefox page on the Dutch Wikipedia :) [17:29] What? [17:29] It has a Speed dial now? [17:29] For Shame Firefox [17:30] have you guys tried opera [17:31] i see no diffs between browsing with opera and ff [17:31] Trixar_za: yes, you can disable it [17:31] :) [17:31] what does ff do better than epiphany and the others [17:31] It was the first of it's kind. That's what it did better. [17:31] :P [17:32] Kilos: yes I did. It's not loading CSS fluenty [17:32] aprt from updating all the time [17:32] Kilos: the addons! :p [17:32] Also it doesn't whore itself to GNOME [17:32] (like epiphany) [17:32] And WebM support :) [17:32] lol [17:37] if you're a web developer, then firefox 's add-on are almost mandatory [17:40] oh its not just a browser like with me [17:47] Kilos: yes [17:52] hi Pankreas [17:52] Evening Kilos [17:53] anybody here know about android and wireless? [17:53] in ubuntu [17:54] i go bath, bbl [17:55] enjoy. [17:56] ty will do [18:22] evening all [18:23] hi there magespawn [18:23] hey Kilos [18:24] i run ff on my droid too [18:25] maybe its all the updating turned me against the fox [18:26] 30m every few weeks [18:26] i even have updating locked here in synaptic [18:28] so lekker summer is nearly here. think this is gonna be a hot one [18:28] now i can shave and cut hair again [18:29] starting to look like a voortrekker [18:29] lol [18:29] this looks promising http://info.p2pu.org/2012/08/21/its-alive-the-mechanical-mooc-offers-gentle-intro-to-python/ [18:32] so does this [18:32] http://openstudy.com/ [18:33] bye! :) [18:34] toods smile-bezig [18:34] good night :) [18:34] sleep tight [18:34] thanks, you too [18:34] :) [18:38] that open study does look good hey magespawn [18:39] imagine studying with 100,000 other peeps [18:39] whew === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [18:41] lots on input [18:41] of [18:41] yeah [18:42] wish they had these kinda things when i was young and sexy [18:42] useless now only being sexy [18:42] the first one should also use khaan.org [18:42] lol [18:42] hows them fish and mom? [18:43] and how be the fly family?? [18:43] inetpro, wen jy? [18:43] hurry, nearly bed time for ballies [18:44] sorry that should be http://www.khanacademy.org [18:44] fish asleep, mom busy studying [18:44] what magespawn ? [18:45] what what? lol [18:45] oh [18:45] studying what? [18:45] Bcom Accountancy [18:45] haha [18:45] whew [18:45] thats great [18:46] will be when she is finished [18:46] then maybe she will have some time to make my curry [18:47] no one here has tried it even [18:47] slackers [18:48] what curry is that Kilos? [18:48] you didnt get the recipe [18:49] think I missed that one [18:49] i put it on slexy somewhere [18:49] ians gf and her sister tried it and even sucked the bones clean afterwards [18:49] sounds good [18:50] and its mild enough for small kids to ask for more [18:50] do you think you could dig it up again? [18:50] im looking [18:51] ty [18:54] http://slexy.org/view/s27n1JXB2B [18:55] yw [18:56] you can even grow curry leaf trees by you i think [18:59] the wife says thank you [19:00] she has had a craving for a good curry [19:00] lo [19:01] she is welcome magespawn you will see, best curry you ever tasted [19:01] lo Squirm [19:05] do pastes stay at the bins ? [19:06] Kilos: depends on the bin [19:06] slexy.org [19:06] * Squirm yawns [19:06] Kilos: sometimes you can set it to stay for a certain amount of time [19:07] ah [19:07] the default expiration on slexy seems to be unlimited [19:07] some delete all pastes after say 30 days [19:07] but this one seems to keep the pastes then [19:07] of course, there is no guarantees [19:07] if the whole site goes down for example, the pastes also go lost [19:08] unless you can find it archived somewhere else, for example, the internet archive [19:08] ah not important. wanted to save my recipe there [19:09] Kilos: for redundancy you can paste it on multiple sites [19:09] pc goes down more than slexy [19:09] no man its not that important [19:09] ok :) [19:09] and now mrs mage has it [19:09] and mrs pro i think [19:10] i work for itc services so i think in terms of redundancy and stuff :) [19:10] failovers, backups, etc [19:10] ah [19:10] yeah it's like second nature [19:11] just came back from painting my new appartment, a bit tired now [19:11] going to watch a movie [19:11] enjoy [19:11] thanks! [19:11] bbl [19:11] chow now [19:11] ty [19:15] night all. sleep tight. bb morrow [19:43] hmmm, youtube videos in unity are in blue [19:43] not in gnome-shell [20:41] almost sleep time [21:18] later all