[00:00] <Dr_Willis> but how could myunity affect a system file...
[00:00] <ev_> bobweaver: cat: usr/share/unity-2d/shell/Shell.qml: No such file or directory
[00:00] <ev_> You are trying to send an empty document, exiting.
[00:00] <bobweaver> correct Dr_Willis  good eye
[00:00] <bobweaver> no typo ev_
[00:00] <Dr_Willis> im on 12.10 - there is no longer Unity 2d. ;)
[00:00] <bobweaver> ev_,  cat /usr/share/unity-2d/shell/Shell.qml | pastebinit       lets see if myubity did the same to you as it did to me :)
[00:00] <ev_> Dr_Willis: i never liked unity
[00:01] <Dr_Willis> ev_:  works fine for me.. and it has some very nice inovative features.. more in 12.10
[00:01] <AndrewX192> How would one go about removing a package where the configure state fails?
[00:01] <ev_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1161809/
[00:01] <bobweaver> Dr_Willis,  you got the stagging ppa going  ?
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> bobweaver:  just playing with 12.10 defaults. I tend to try to stay with defaults to make it easier to do support help.
[00:02] <ev_> Dr_Willis: i think my old lappy would not like. has been slow and overheatin(on occasion) since 10.xx
[00:02] <bobweaver> ev_,  it did not do the same as mine I am at a loss unless you explain more of what happened
[00:02] <Dr_Willis> seen totally stop cooling fans on old laptops
[00:02] <jrib> AndrewX192: either 1) force it or 2) make the configure state not fail.  I suggest 2
[00:03] <ev_> bobweaver: not much more to it. just trying to get the unity bar to autohide, installed MyUnity, now quasi-broke.... :(
[00:03] <AndrewX192> jrib: #2 fails because of a checksum that the package downloads :)
[00:03] <AndrewX192> jrib: so, not possible
[00:03] <jrib> AndrewX192: of course it's possible
[00:04] <blaggard> damn, there's never anyone home in ubuntu-dev
[00:04] <AndrewX192> jrib: well, I can't fix the checksum. It's on Oracle...
[00:04] <jrib> AndrewX192: what package?
[00:04] <AndrewX192> jrib: oracle-java7-installer
[00:05] <bobweaver> ev_ find Launcher.qml
[00:05] <jrib> AndrewX192: pastebin command and full output relevant to the issue please
[00:05] <bobweaver> THat is  not a command ev_
[00:05] <ev_> Dr_Willis: gotta run an errand, brb >20
[00:05] <crassus> Hi, I'm having a problem trying to create a startup disk from an .iso image I have. Normally I never have problems, but this is the first time I've tried to do it from this install of Ubuntu 12.04. Everytime I try to select the .iso file I want to create an iamge out of, it instead just chooses another one completely that I appranetly used in the past (I have the same /home) Is there a way to clean the cache or stop this from happening?
[00:05] <ev_> bobweaver: gotta run an errand, brb >20
[00:06] <ev_> bobweaver: no such file or dir....brb
[00:06] <AndrewX192> jrib: http://pastebin.com/iirAGc8b
[00:06] <bobweaver> ev_,  you can copy and paste     sudo find / -name 'Launcher.qml' | pastebinit
[00:06] <kreig9> Hello, I am having a problem with seeing my USB stick and my CD/DVD that I just put into my computer. I tried accessing it - but I cant see it anywhere on my system. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[00:07] <zumo> Anyone have any suggestions on EDD: Error 1000
[00:07] <jrib> AndrewX192: if you are sure there is no newer package available with the correct checksum, then you can edit the package scripts (they're in /var/lib/dpkg/info/PACKAGENAME.*)
[00:07] <zumo> Ive tried 2 different CD drives and several CDs.
[00:08] <Dr_Willis> kreig9:  open file manager, not on left side? try mount command to see if its mounted.. try mounting them by hand.. check dmesg command output at bottom for error messages
[00:09] <kreig9> Dr_Willis: There is no File Manager... What is the full mount command for this?
[00:09] <Dr_Willis> kreig9:  how are you even using the system and accessing files?
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> !mount
[00:10] <zumo> Anyone have any suggestions on EDD: Error 1000
[00:10] <kreig9> Dr_Willis: Do you mean Home Folder? (The orange folder below the Dash Home?)
[00:10] <Dr_Willis> kreig9:  thats the default file manager....
[00:11] <kreig9> Dr_Willis: I do not see either the USB nor the CD anywhere there..\
[00:11] <kreig9> Dr_Willis: I do not see either the USB nor the CD anywhere there..
[00:12] <AndrewX192> jrib: I got rid of it, finally.
[00:12] <Dr_Willis> kreig9:  plug the usb in, open terminal, wait a few moments.. look at the output of 'dmesg' near the end. it should mention the usb.
[00:12] <szal> zumo: what does EDD have to do w/ CDs?
[00:13] <zumo> I have no idea, I read on the forum to try different cd media or cd drives szal
[00:14] <Dr_Willis> may be time to state the original problem zumo
[00:14] <kreig9> Dr_Willis: It says Unable to mount PENDRIVE. Error creating moint point: Read-only flie system
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> kreig9:  now the question is why is your / read only...
[00:16] <Dr_Willis> kreig9:  you are on a normal ubuntu install?
[00:16] <kreig9> Dr_Willis: Yup. I got the installition disk from work.
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> kreig9:  this is a brand new install?
[00:17] <kreig9> Dr_Willis: It is.
[00:17] <zumo> Dr_Willis Trying to boot the live cd, it stalls and give me EDD: Error 1000 sector 31213124 or a sting of numbers
[00:17] <Dr_Willis> kreig9:  check the mount command output for the '/' filesystem
[00:18] <kreig9> Dr_Willis: How do I do this? (Sorry, new at Linux commands)
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> 'mount' command..
[00:18] <MoTec> Well heck.. Anyone know how to 'jail' a client connecting via sftp?
[00:18] <Dr_Willis> somthing similer to --> /dev/sdc1 on / type ext4 (rw,noatime,nodiratime,discard,errors=remount-ro)
[00:18] <gvsn> hi i just installed ubuntu for the first time and no experiencewith it so my question is is it normal the system freezes alot?
[00:19] <gvsn> i can move mouse but that is about it
[00:19] <drip> mine locks up every now and th
[00:20] <gvsn> so its normal?
[00:20] <kreig9> Dr_Willis: ugh sorry to waste your time on this - co-worker just told me that on the USB, there is a system image of Win95, which is why it is a read only.. But in regards to the CD-ROM not showing up - any ideas?
[00:20] <gvsn> i would have thought it would be more stable then windows and faster but atm im happier with windows
[00:25] <kreig9> Does anyone know why my CD-ROM does not show up when I insert it into the D: drive?
[00:29] <ev_> bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1161840/
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> kreig9:  the error message said YOUR / partion was read only.. thus you cant make any new directories or files on it.
[00:30] <Dr_Willis> kreig9:  i would suggest a reboot and let tye system check the filesystems. it may be some error on them
[00:30] <kreig9> Dr_Willis: ok
[00:34] <kreig9> Dr_Willis: Another quick question - how do I change the place where Firefox downloads a program?
[00:40] <vectra> hi
[00:40] <vectra> is anybody here
[00:40] <Tlaloc> yes
[00:41] <vectra> good
[00:41] <Tlaloc> is my first time with xchat
[00:41] <vectra> same thing for me
[00:41] <Tlaloc> oh
[00:41] <Tlaloc> is always nice to try out something new
[00:41] <Tlaloc> where are you from vectra
[00:42] <vectra> but i hope you have a better knowledge about linux than i do
[00:42] <Dr_Willis> kreig9:  check its menus/settings
[00:42] <vectra> yeah indeed
[00:42] <Tlaloc> for how long you've been playing with linux?
[00:43] <vectra> my computer shas reently started to turn off by itself
[00:43] <vectra> could you tell me what might be the problem?
[00:43] <Tlaloc> is it a laptop?
[00:44] <usr13> vectra: Could be that the CPU chip is overheating.
[00:45] <usr13> (.... hardware issue ....)
[00:45] <Tlaloc> yeah thats what im thinking
[00:45] <Tlaloc> the heat
[00:46] <aguitel> in /boot there is file called memtest86+.bin , is safe to delete thisfile?
[00:47] <Budd> aguitel: I think so.
[00:47] <Budd> aguitel: it's a memory tester you can run from the bootloader instead of the operating system.
[00:48] <aguitel> for want to do more clean the grub lines
[00:48] <sjd_zeus> 早上好，各位
[00:49] <Budd> aguitel: you can edit grub.cfg or menu.lst to get rid of the option at boot; deleting the file won't change the menu directly.
[00:49] <erictr1ck> just installed ubuntu 12.04 on my new asus cm6870. WOOO HOOOO!!!!
[00:49] <usr13> erictr1ck: Welcome to Ubuntu.
[00:49] <aguitel> Budd: OK
[00:49] <machicola> this is strange , i changed my mouse movement speed a few months ago and its just speeding up now
[00:49] <erictr1ck> usr13: ty!
[00:50] <notwo_away> hello I am about to install ubuntu, and I was wondering what are the difference between server and desctop edition. I am an old windows user but as I am using php for web application there no need for me to stay in windows any more. So I am realy into installing ubuntu and I need some advice in what is best for a php developer?
[00:50] <v1c3> hello, i have a problem with the installation of microsoft office 2010 with wine. i created a win32 prefix and installed  msxml3 and msxml6 with winetricks, but the installer fails. can anyone help me
[00:50] <v1c3> PLEASE
[00:50] <usr13> notwo_away: yes there is a difference
[00:51] <notwo_away> user13, so what will fit me best for php,mysql and in general what I need as a web developer?
[00:51] <notwo_away> server or desctop suits me best?
[00:51] <Budd> notwo_away: I suggest desktop.
[00:51] <Jordan_U> aguitel: sudo apt-get remove memtest86+
[00:52] <aguitel> Jordan_U: thanks
[00:52] <Jordan_U> aguitel: But having memtest can be useful.
[00:52] <Jordan_U> aguitel: You're welcome.
[00:52] <usr13> notwo_away: Desktop
[00:53] <Mechdave> notwo_away, I suggest Desktop, then add in all the development stuff you need. Server is command line only
[00:53] <notwo_away> oh
[00:53] <notwo_away> ok
[00:53] <notwo_away> thank you guys
[00:53] <notwo_away> I am on it :D
[00:53] <Mechdave> notwo_away, No worries :)
[00:53] <usr13> notwo_away: Fire away!
[00:54] <FIzzik> if you were have to have a seperate server designated for hosting webpages etc. then server on a another machine would be your best bet
[00:54] <notwo_away> ic
[00:54] <trialbykittens> My Ubuntu One account was set up with a now defunct email account. It sends me to SSO to update my account details, but U1 refuses to update the old address.. Is there anything I can do?
[00:54] <notwo_away> so server is server, no dout
[00:54] <usr13> FIzzik: Having test server on same machine is just fine though.
[00:54] <notwo_away> ok I am packing my stuff from windows and comming cu ;)
[00:55] <Mechdave> notwo_away, exactly
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> v1c3:  the #winehq channel knows more about wine then we do.. and theres the wine app database
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> !appdb | v1c3
[00:55] <Dr_Willis> trailbar:  theres the #ubuntu-one channel that may know moar.
[00:55] <AndrewX192> I've got a laptop that I can't adjust the screen backlight on. What should I check first?
[00:55] <trialbykittens> Dr_Willis: thanks
[00:56] <Surry> Hi! Can someone please help me establish a GPG key and create an encrypted message? What do I use for this, the GPG command in the terminal?
[00:57] <Guest77972> Surry: I do not think encrypting a message is possible in IRC.
[00:57] <Surry> I mean in ubuntu :)
[00:57] <Surry> I open Terminal and type in GPG and it says "type your message." But I don't even have a key yet, so I think I must be doing this wrong.
[00:58] <usr13> Surry: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto
[00:58] <Guest77972> Surry: I think you should refer to the internet for help.
[00:58] <Surry> Gue
[00:58] <Surry> Guest77972: That's what I'm doing right now!
[00:58] <Surry> usr13: Thanks, I'll check that out. :)
[00:59] <zumo> Im getting a kernel panic from the live cd, Something about it not syncing?
[00:59] <Guest64061> hey guys how do i put in my passwork to log in with my old nickname
[00:59] <usr13> Guest64061: What?
[00:59] <Budd> zumo: not syncing is generally a warning that's part of the panic, not a cause of it.
[01:00] <Guest64061> also how do i determine best nvdia driver to use on my system
[01:00] <Budd> zumo: the cause of the panic would be father up on the screen (often, annoyingly, scrolled off)
[01:00] <Guest64061> usr13, exmple my handle was kaiser but having been on irc in few years now asks me to put my password not sue how to
[01:00] <zumo> Any solutions budd?
[01:00] <Mechdave> Guest64061, /msg nickserv identify <password>
[01:01] <usr13> Guest64061: Hardware Drivers will do it for you.
[01:01] <Budd> zumo: not without seeing the messages before the panic.
[01:01] <Guest64061> thanks
[01:01] <zumo> Which im guessing I have no way to see!
[01:01] <usr13> Guest64061: irssi
[01:01] <Guest64061> can i save login with xhat i used to do it with pidgen while back
[01:01] <Mechdave> Guest64061, Usually I would use the Hardware Drivers
[01:01] <usr13> Guest64061: http://irssi.org/beginner/
[01:01] <Budd> zumo: well, if you saw the "not syncing" message, you perhaps see some lines above/before it?
[01:01] <Mechdave> Guest64061, yes
[01:02] <Budd> zumo: If you really want to debug, and have another networked machine handy, the netconsole module can send those messages over the network as they happen.
[01:02] <zumo> Budd the words EIP cr2 and end trace then the panic then attempted to kill init!
[01:02] <Guest64061> Mechdave, does default ubuntu chat do irc too?
[01:03] <usr13> Guest64061: What?
[01:03] <Mechdave> Guest64061, Sorry I am not sure what you mean by default?
[01:04] <Guest64061> tere is chat application for ubuntu that was there off my fresh install not sure of name
[01:04] <Surry> I need to restart firefox, I'll be back in a bit, thanks for the help so far usr13 :)
[01:04] <Guest64061> it on gnome
[01:04] <Budd> zumo: if you can figure out the bootloader, add this as an option to the kernel line:
[01:05] <Budd> acpi=off noapic
[01:05] <Mechdave> Guest64061, Oh ok, I understand... Not that I know of
[01:05] <Budd> zumo: ACPI is buggy on a lot of machines.
[01:05] <zumo> You know, Come to think about it this hardware im running gave me a hardtime last time! DAMNYOU GRAPHICS CARD.
[01:06] <Mechdave> Guest64061, Usually the first thing I do is apt-get install xchat :)
[01:07] <v1c3> thx Dr_Willis
[01:09] <zumo> Budd Last time I tried linux on this machine turned out to be the sillly HD5450 GPU
[01:11] <Budd> zumo: I have a 5450 - works great. Radeons are usually well-behaved - logically, at least.
[01:12] <Budd> of course I also have a motherboard that brags about "Surround Display! (tm)(patent pending)", which seems to only mean
[01:12] <Budd> that it disables the built-in card when you plug in a second, unless the second is of a particular model.
[01:12] <MoTec> Oh, I hope someone has some experience with mounting windows shares from ubuntu... This is frustrating me greatly!!!!
[01:12] <MoTec> I'm having problems writing to a windows share from ubuntu.  I'm mounting it fine in my /etc/fstab.  This works '//servername/share /mnt/nas cifs credentials=/etc/samba/users,uid=1000 0 0' This does not, even tho my account is in the group with gid 1004 '//servername/share /mnt/nas cifs credentials=/etc/samba/users,gid=1004,dir_mode=0775 0 0'
[01:13] <Mechdave> MoTec, what version of windows are you using?
[01:14] <MoTec> Um, the NAS is Windows Storage Server.  A flavor of 2008 R2, I believe.
[01:14] <MoTec> Ya, Storage Server 2008
[01:15] <Psi-Jack> Yuck!
[01:15] <xapolin> someone with ubuntu machine to scan?
[01:15] <Psi-Jack> xapolin: Pardon?
[01:15] <MoTec> I don't think it's a problem with the share.. As I said if I mount it using UID=1000 it's all good.. But not if I mount it with GID=1004
[01:16] <arulmozhi> in /usr/src ther r linux headers inside them ther is a folder named documentaion inside that there are only makefiles is it possible to use those make filse to get readable docs? why they are in Documentation folder??
[01:16] <xapolin> [Psi-Jack]: dedicated ubuntu
[01:16] <Psi-Jack> xapolin: Yes, and?
[01:17] <xapolin> need to scan smtp
[01:17] <Psi-Jack> xapolin: No. You don't.
[01:17] <J3f> any can played maple story on uuntu ? xd
[01:18] <xapolin> ?
[01:18] <usr13> xapolin: What do you mean scan smtp?
[01:18] <usr13> xapolin: Do you need to see if an smtp server is up and running?
[01:18] <usr13> xapolin: Or do you need to connect to it?
[01:19] <xapolin> [usr13]: yes
[01:19] <Psi-Jack> usr13: Ask 2 questions, get 1 answer.
[01:19] <ratcheer> lol
[01:19] <xapolin> I need a dedicated ubuntu
[01:20] <usr13> xapolin: nmap -p25 ip.of.server
[01:20] <Psi-Jack> xapolin: Please be more specific and not vague.
[01:20] <J3f> someone tried to play maplestory on ubuntu?
[01:21] <usr13> xapolin: sudo nmap -p25 ip.of.server
[01:21] <xapolin> I need a machine to put ubuntu on my game
[01:21] <arulmozhi> in /usr/src ther r linux headers inside them ther is a folder named documentaion inside that there are only makefiles is it possible to use those make filse to get readable docs? why they are in Documentation folder??
[01:22] <GoldStandard> Does anyone know how to restart CUPS on 12.04?
[01:23] <Dr_Willis>  sudo service cups status
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> or start/restart/stop
[01:23] <Dr_Willis> xapolin:  you are making no sence.
[01:23] <GoldStandard> dr_willis thanks!
[01:24] <ratcheer> GoldStandard: Use Upstart. Something like initctl restart cups
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> the service command is made for manageing the services.. ;)
[01:24] <ratcheer> So is initctl
[01:25] <Psi-Jack> xapolin: Please be more specific and not vague. Please make sense. Please do not troll.
[01:25] <GoldStandard> thanks guys :)
[01:25] <Psi-Jack> ratcheer: You mean "restart <servicename>" :p
[01:25] <xapolin> precise ubuntu machine to scan unlimited smtp
[01:26] <Psi-Jack> I think we need op intervention here.
[01:26] <usr13> Psi-Jack: I think he knows what he asked :+)
[01:26] <Dr_Willis> xapolin:  that makes no sence...  have a nice day...
[01:26] <Mechdave> sounds like they are doing stuff they shouldn't
[01:27] <Psi-Jack> Exactly.
[01:27] <arulmozhi> in /usr/src ther r linux headers inside them ther is a folder named documentaion inside that there are only makefiles is it possible to use those make filse to get readable docs? why they are in Documentation folder?? any one?
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> sounds like they dont kniow what they are doing...
[01:27] <usr13> Psi-Jack: Never mind, that was GoldStandard
[01:27] <Mechdave> that too
[01:27] <usr13> sorry...
[01:27] <Psi-Jack> usr13: Heh
[01:27] <GoldStandard> what
[01:27] <GoldStandard> haha sorry i was away
[01:27] <Psi-Jack> Yeah, upstart uses "restart|stop|start <servicename>"
[01:27] <Psi-Jack> reload, as well.
[01:27] <usr13> GoldStandard: That's ok, was my mistake.
[01:28] <GoldStandard> ok
[01:32] <kantlivelong> anyone here get ginn working with 12.04?
[01:35] <omn> is there anyway to force chmod to follow symlinks?
[01:35] <omn> I see there is in BSD, but I don't see any option for it in the man page
[01:36] <jrib> omn: umm, did you try just using it...?
[01:37] <omn> yes, default behavior is to not traverse symlinks when rececursively traversing a directory tree
[01:37] <omn> that is for all commands
[01:37] <jrib> omn: yes
[01:37] <jrib> omn: however, if you list a symlink, chmod will act on the target
[01:38] <omn> I've also tried just adding the flags mentioned in man pages for other OS's and (as I expected) they were not recognized
[01:39] <jrib> omn: what is it that you want to accomplish exactly?
[01:39] <omn> jrib: I'm trying to set permissions for a symfony project
[01:39] <InferiorHuman> If I am moving my wife to a smaller ssd (64gb) from a 120GB HDD and want to use dd to clone the C: drive partition and the MBR do I also need to copy the partition table or just write the image file of windows partition to a parition on the ssd
[01:40] <InferiorHuman> I will shrink the partition down to 50gb first (it only contains 30gb of data)
[01:40] <omn> jrib: there are symlinks in the web folder that point to the web resources folders for the various symfony plugins
[01:40] <jrib> omn: I would just use find probably
[01:40] <ev_> bobweaver: you around?
[01:41] <omn> jrib: how do you mean?
[01:41] <bobweaver> ev_,  yes Lets hack at unity 2d if you like
[01:41] <ratcheer> ev_: I think he just left.
[01:41] <TaJMoX> Firefox highlights "favorite" as a mis spelled word until I change it to "favourite" ... How do I change Firefox to understand Yank English?
[01:41] <ratcheer> Oh, sorry.
[01:42] <ev_> bobweaver: im down for whatever
[01:42] <bobweaver> Ok ev_  sudo apt-get build-dep unity-2d
[01:42] <jrib> omn: something like: find /path/to/directory -exec chmod 755 '{}'  (you probably don't want to do exactly this since all your files would become executable)
[01:43] <bobweaver> ev_,  after that  sudo apt-get install qt-creator
[01:44] <omn> jrib: awesome, I've never used -exec on find before, what does the '{}' in the command do?
[01:44] <jrib> omn: the result from find is placed there
[01:44] <jrib> omn: umm, actually you need a \; at the end too.  See the man page, but ask if it's not clear
[01:44] <omn> jrib: gotcha, that's really, really useful and I'm gonna use that for all kinds of things
[01:45] <jrib> omn: yes, very useful
[01:45] <ev_> bobweaver: what is the qt creator?
[01:45] <bobweaver> It is the IDE that is used to make Unity 2d ev_
[01:46] <ev_> bobweaver: i c
[01:46] <Areckx> I am not finding any info in the manpage or on google on how to kill unclutter
[01:46] <Areckx> without doing apt-get remove
[01:46] <Areckx> I don't see unclutter on top
[01:46] <jrib> Areckx: umm, you mean have it not start automatically?
[01:47] <jrib> Areckx: if you just want to kill it now, do: pkill unclutter
[01:47] <Areckx> jrib::  no I mean manually kill it
[01:47] <Areckx> oh ok
[01:47] <Areckx> thank you jrib
[01:47] <Areckx> I was trying kill unclutter
[01:47] <somsip> omn: similar but different format: find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 sudo chmod 775;
[01:47] <jrib> Areckx: oh, "kill" expects a PID
[01:47] <omn> !jrib++
[01:47] <Areckx> pkill ends a process, I see now thanks
[01:48] <craigbass1976> I've got a dual boot machine set up for someone.  Can they use their vista thunderbird profile from ubuntu somehow, or have I got to copy it over?  I'm thinking something with links...
[01:48] <MoTec> I'm having problems writing to a windows share from ubuntu.  I'm mounting it fine in my /etc/fstab.  This works '//servername/share /mnt/nas cifs credentials=/etc/samba/users,uid=1000 0 0' This does not, even tho my account is in the group with gid 1004 '//servername/share /mnt/nas cifs credentials=/etc/samba/users,gid=1004,dir_mode=0775 0 0'
[01:49] <omn> jrib: thank very much for you help. I'll answer my own question on the forums.
[01:49] <jrib> omn: no problem
[01:49] <ev_> bobweaver: no qt-creator pkg....?
[01:50] <jrib> MoTec: what does "dir_mode" do?
[01:51] <MoTec> jrib: supposed to set the share's permissions to that.. but it does the same thing if I leave it out.
[01:51] <jrib> MoTec: note dir_mode only affects directories
[01:51] <jrib> MoTec: what do you try to do to the share that fails exactly?
[01:52] <bobweaver> brb
[01:52] <MoTec> i can write to it if I mount it with my UID, but I need a group of people to be able to write so I was trying the GID
[01:52] <jagginess> craigbass1976, ya there's a way..
[01:53] <jrib> MoTec: I understand, can you pastebin the following: 1) you attempting to create a file (for example: touch /mnt/nas/mynewfile), the output of « ls -ld /mnt/nas », the output of « mount », and the output of « groups »?
[01:53] <jagginess> craigbass1976, create new profiles, then copy over certail "mail" files (outbox), no need to copy over settings, just recreate the settings..  (there's also no need to use conversion programs, like exporting to .eml then re-importing it<not nec)
[01:53] <craigbass1976> jagginess, GREAT!  This stupid windows isntall has done something that only lets me shrink a 225g partition by 7-8 gigs, so I'm trying to conserve space.
[01:53] <bobweaver> ev_,  sudo apt-get install qtcreator
[01:53] <jrib> MoTec: erm, the numbers stopped after (1), what shame D:
[01:53] <jagginess> craigbass1976, i've done from linux<->windows, either way, but it's been quite a long while.. but it's doable..
[01:54] <MoTec> jrib: I'll figure it out :)
[01:54] <MoTec> The numbers thing, that is.
[01:54] <jrib> heh
[01:54] <bobweaver> ev_,  I just installed another kernel brb
[01:54] <jagginess> craigbass1976, if your stuck, you can always try the free export/import tools (provided you can still run thunderbird.exe)
[01:55] <jagginess> craigbass1976, (but that's a very slow process, and it's a plugin that has to be downloaded-- it can be problematic for certain message titles that aren't utf8)
[01:56] <jagginess> craigbass1976, i wouldn't want to use symlinks to an ntfs drive from linux... copy the actual mail mbox files
[01:56] <MoTec> jrib: actually, it looks like I got it by specifying both file_mode and dir_mode in my fstab
[01:56] <jrib> MoTec: great
[01:56] <MoTec> jrib: but it's not mounting automatically after a reboot, lol.. But if I do a sudo mount -a it mounts.
[01:56] <craigbass1976> jagginess, even if windows isn't going to boot anymore?  I think they're only going to use it for taxes in April
[01:57] <jrib> MoTec: I think there's an option you can add to indicate the mount requires the network to be up
[01:57] <jagginess> craigbass1976, doesnt need to boot anymore :).. but it should be fine
[01:57] <MoTec> jrib: Ah, that's what is happening I bet..
[01:57] <jrib> MoTec: I know this because there was a someone complaining the option didn't work though, so good luck :)
[01:57] <MoTec> jrib: heh, i'll see what I can find.
[01:57] <jrib> !samba | MoTec
[01:57] <jrib> MoTec: it's probably mentioned there
[01:58] <omn> jrib: thanks, FYI the -L flag needs to be set on the find command to allow it to traverse the symlinks. After adding that it worked perfectly.
[02:00] <ev_> bobweaver: done and done
[02:00] <MoTec> jrib: it looks like I was just impatient after the reboot before.. It just took a couple minutes to come back after I could log back on.
[02:00] <InferiorHuman> can someone please help me out with this question?? http://pastebin.com/T80bEawK
[02:00] <jrib> MoTec: cool
[02:01] <jagginess> InferiorHuman, title says you want to clone your wife's hdrive. You think she's cheating on ya?
[02:01] <jrib> :/
[02:01] <InferiorHuman> no...
[02:01] <InferiorHuman> did you read the whole thing ?
[02:02] <jagginess> InferiorHuman, it's not clear..
[02:02] <InferiorHuman> Oh I thought it was pretty clear, whats not clear about it?
[02:02] <jrib> jagginess: InferiorHuman wants to copy the data on one hard drive to another (smaller) one
[02:02] <MoTec> jrib: all this to get 3 user's home directory on a windows nas, heh.
[02:02] <InferiorHuman> yea if the drive was the same size/ bigger I could do it in one command
[02:02] <jagginess> InferiorHuman, which is the new drive?
[02:03] <InferiorHuman> the 64gb ssd will be the new (empty) drive
[02:03] <jagginess> InferiorHuman, where is C:\ ?
[02:04] <InferiorHuman> jagginess, are you messing with me ?
[02:04] <jagginess> InferiorHuman, no..
[02:04] <jagginess> InferiorHuman, ok so ssd is blank.. you said "new hdd" .. so that baffled a bit..
[02:04] <InferiorHuman> on the 500gb sata drive
[02:05] <jagginess> InferiorHuman, not sure if clonezilla can do this, but probably it can clone while shrinking the target
[02:06] <InferiorHuman> I can shrink the partition my self in gparted easily
[02:06] <InferiorHuman> the part I am not 100% sure about is making it bootable
[02:06] <jagginess> InferiorHuman, y. but you should back things up before.. if you do that..
[02:06] <kaiser_> how do i get best video performance for ubuntu on win7 i get good performance on 1080p video for xbmc and flash video like hbo go and ubuntu it can be very choppy any idea
[02:06] <jagginess> InferiorHuman, "The destination partition must be equal or larger than the source one. " clonezilla.. so it's a bummer (clonezilla.org)
[02:07] <jagginess> InferiorHuman, however, there's a clonetool with ntfstools (ntfsclone i think -- but i dont know how good it is0
[02:07] <jagginess> (http://linux.die.net/man/8/ntfsclone)
[02:08] <deww> seems like you can with expert mode http://sourceforge.net/projects/clonezilla/forums/forum/663168/topic/5125793
[02:08] <InferiorHuman> someone said I could just shrink the partition to say 50gb and do dd if=/dev/sda of=/some/file bs=1M count=51200
[02:09] <InferiorHuman> and then write it back obviousl
[02:09] <jagginess> InferiorHuman, dont bother with that for now.. you can clone ntfs.. (but beware you're likely not to boot windows anyways-- even if you fix the m$ bootloader)
[02:09] <InferiorHuman> why not?
[02:10] <jagginess> InferiorHuman, it's a waste of time to copy it to a file
[02:10] <InferiorHuman> yea I can copy it to the drive directly huh ?
[02:10] <InferiorHuman> but if I copy to file I have a backup incase anything goes wrong.
[02:11] <MoTec> jrib: I guess I lied to you.  It's not connecting after all.  And the option you can put in fstab is _netdev.. And yes, it doesn't work, lol
[02:13] <SuperMiguel> Im trying to install ubuntu, on a system running intel matrix raid 0, but i keep getting a grub install failure
[02:13] <SuperMiguel> any ideas?
[02:13] <jrib> MoTec: heh.  There's also a note on that wiki page linked by ubottu but the author states that all he had to do was add credentials (it was failing on boot, but only as guest) which doesn't seem to apply to your case if my memory is right.  Check bugs.ubuntu.com to see if you can find a bug about it.  There may be workarounds there
[02:14] <MoTec> jrib: yeah, i'm specifying credentials... I bet it is a timing issue because after the boot 'mount -a' or 'mount /mnt/nas' brings it up fine.
[02:19] <craigbass1976> What happened to menu.lst or grub.conf?
[02:20] <jagginess> craigbass1976, that's grub1. grub2 now replaces those things
[02:21] <craigbass1976> jagginess, gah...  With what?
[02:30] <doug_> how do I boot into windows now that I've installed ubuntu?  I get no menu like I used to with past dual boot computers
[02:31] <bazhang> doug_, hold shift at boot
[02:32] <ank0r> Hello all
[02:32] <Treaver> Hey guys, I did this earlier : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenProposed and I need help removing it completely. From Grub and All. Please help me
[02:33] <Treaver> Anyone?
[02:34] <ganster> Treaver, yes
[02:35] <Treaver> I need help reversing everything on this page : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenProposed
[02:35] <Treaver> I installed it, changed grub, and did all those commands.
[02:35] <Treaver> But It didn't work right and
[02:35] <SuperMiguel> Im trying to install ubuntu, on a system running intel matrix raid 0, but i keep getting a grub install failure
[02:35] <SuperMiguel> any ideas?
[02:35] <Treaver> I need to remove it, inluding the grub stuff
[02:36] <MoTec> Dang so close... I can't jail the sftp users because of file permission/ownership issues on the share.
[02:37] <Treaver> Anyone help?
[02:37] <akls> is there any good typing tutor for left handed dvorak? I remember there was some software three years ago.
[02:38] <akls> Treaver, just say your problem
[02:38] <jen> whats the best shell for ubuntu?
[02:38] <bazhang> jen, there is no best
[02:38] <MoTec> bash is a good one
[02:38] <Treaver> I have said my problem, no one can help?
[02:38] <bazhang> !poll | jen
[02:39] <bazhang> Treaver, patience
[02:39] <bazhang> akls, try apt-cache search term and see if that turns anything up
[02:40] <craigbass1976> bazhang, hey, I was doug_ a minute ago and held shift while booting to get a grub menu.  Two monitors say things are out of range at that stage, so I'm not sure how to get a grub menu in front of me
[02:40] <|Anthony|> i re-sized an extended partition. after a reboot i went into grub rescue
[02:40] <ank0r> no best at all
[02:40] <|Anthony|> what can i do to get grub to find all the OSs on the hdd
[02:40] <savio> hey i have problem regarding my network connection
[02:40] <ank0r> jen, the default bash shell is fine for most users though, what are you trying to do
[02:41] <ank0r> ?
[02:41] <jen> like gnome and stuff
[02:41] <jen> I have unity
[02:41] <bazhang> savio, ask the real question
[02:41] <ank0r> the defauly terminal in gnome is gereat
[02:41] <ank0r> *default
[02:41] <jen> oh wait
[02:41] <bazhang> jen try them out and decide. dont poll here
[02:41] <jen> im retarded
[02:42] <jen> nvm
[02:42] <savio> in my windows using DSL connection to connect to internet i also get ip address to ethernet card
[02:42] <savio> but in linux this is not the case
[02:42] <savio> my eth0 doesn't get an address
[02:42] <bazhang> savio, does ifconfig show eth0 wlan0 and lo?
[02:42] <ank0r> savio, what's the ip for each card?
[02:42] <savio> bazhang, yah
[02:43] <ank0r> you might see your ethernet show as 127.0.0.1
[02:43] <bazhang> savio, what does sudo dhclient eth0 return in the terminal
[02:43] <savio> nothing
[02:43] <bazhang> savio, what about trying to ping www.google.com
[02:43] <CAkEBAll> Does anyone know how to make it so that when you press backspace on googlechrome is goes back?
[02:44] <ank0r> maybe a plugin cakebell
[02:44] <bazhang> CAkEBAll, how is google chrome an  ubuntu issue
[02:44] <CAkEBAll> because
[02:44] <savio> bazhang, 4 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3024ms
[02:44] <CAkEBAll> the backspace going back
[02:44] <CAkEBAll> works on windows but not ubuntu
[02:44] <ank0r> i remember specifically using a plugin to stop the backspace key from being the back button at one time though
[02:44] <bazhang> CAkEBAll, contact the google chrome people
[02:45] <rommel092079> hello guys I am new to ubuntu. I just installed ubuntu 12.04.   how to install apache, mysql and php on ubuntu? what is the commandline ?
[02:45] <bazhang> savio, seems like a dns issue; is this connected to a router?
[02:45] <bazhang> !lamp | rommel092079 have a read
[02:45] <savio> no but i think my provider has one
[02:46] <bazhang> savio, no router?
[02:46] <savio> bazhang, but i'm able to connect to internet
[02:46] <savio> bazhang, on my side no
[02:46] <bazhang> savio, directly to a cable modem?
[02:47] <savio> bazhang, before a month ago i can get ip to eth0 using Backtrack
[02:47] <savio> bazhang, yap
[02:47] <Treaver> Can anyone tell me how to reverse everything I did using this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XenProposed I did it, not my boot is 40x slower, with some random shit popping up on the screen. My networks stops working sometimes. I just need it completely removed from grub and all. How do I do this
[02:47] <bazhang> savio, then you are running backtrack now?
[02:48] <savio> nope ubuntu 12.04
[02:48] <bazhang> Treaver, no cursing here please
[02:48] <savio> bazhang, but in windows it works fine
[02:48] <ank0r> savio, do you need an ip on eth0, as in you have a cat-5 cable plugged in but can'y get a connection?
[02:48] <bazhang> savio, what about bring the device down then up sudo ifdown eth0 , sudo ifup eth0 and trying again
[02:49] <ank0r> can't*
[02:49] <savio> ank0r, yes
[02:49] <savio> bazhang, i'll try
[02:49] <savio> bazhang, ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[02:50] <savio> bazhang, it has ipv6 address by default
[02:56] <|Anthony|> i re-sized an extended partition. after a reboot i went into grub rescue
[02:56] <|Anthony|> how can i get grub to recognize the partitions that it had before
[02:57] <savio> bazhang, ank0r ?
[02:57] <bazhang> savio, yes?
[02:57] <savio> bazhang, solution ?
[02:57] <bazhang> savio, you wish to disable ipv6?
[02:58] <savio> no?
[02:59] <azend> Anyone have a fix for ubuntu laptops that run hot
[02:59] <azend> every single ubuntu laptop I've had has run extremely hot
[02:59] <ank0r> get a usb fan base, azend
[02:59] <azend> |Anthony|: are you booting off of a logical partition?
[03:00] <ank0r> never been an issue for me
[03:00] <akls> azend, try different cpu governor?
[03:00] <azend> but windows runs relatively cool
[03:00] <akls> ank0r, me too
[03:00] <azend> akls: perhaps
[03:00] <ank0r> word, akls
[03:00] <jagginess> |Anthony|, chroot from a ubuntu cd, do a few mount --bind 's, then update-grub2<enter>
[03:01] <jagginess> |Anthony|, and then grub-install /dev/<your drive>
[03:01] <savio> bazhang, my interface file only contain this two line
[03:01] <savio> auto lo
[03:01] <savio> iface lo inet loopback
[03:01] <azend> how do you adjust the kernel's cpu governor in the latest ubuntu
[03:01] <savio> cpu fovernor
[03:01] <savio> cpu governor
[03:02] <|Anthony|> azend, the ubuntu partition is not in a lvm, it's a primary
[03:02] <|Anthony|> jagginess, i have subsequently installed fedora in a lvm and /boot in a primary
[03:02] <|Anthony|> so grub2 did have a brand new install
[03:03] <akls> no, really. there are some typing tutors for dvorak, but I can't find one for left handed dvorak.
[03:03] <|Anthony|> in which it did not detect the ubuntu partition, but it did detect a win7 partition
[03:04] <jagginess> |Anthony|, where's ubuntu? in an lvm?
[03:04] <|Anthony|> nope, first primary
[03:04] <ank0r> savio, have you tried any live cd's or pendrive distro's to see if they work with your ethirnet port?
[03:04] <|Anthony|> well, second /boot is first
[03:04] <jagginess> |Anthony|, huh?
[03:04] <|Anthony|> sda1 is ubuntu
[03:04] <savio> ank0r, my windows box works on my ethernet card
[03:04] <|Anthony|> sda0 is /boot
[03:05] <jrib> akls: might be interesting to create one
[03:05] <|Anthony|> sda3 is win7
[03:05] <ank0r> yeah, but linux can be a fininky bitch
[03:05] <jagginess> |Anthony|, there's no such thing as sda0
[03:05] <|Anthony|> well w/e you get what i'm saying
[03:05] <akls> jrib, :\
[03:05] <jagginess> |Anthony|, /dev/sda0 doesn't exists on any linux.
[03:05] <ForSpareParts> As of Precise, is unattended-upgrades still the recommended way to accomplish automatic updates on all my installed packages?
[03:05] <jagginess> anyways good luck..
[03:06] <|Anthony|> +1 to each of the numbers than... but that is the order
[03:07] <jagginess> |Anthony|, if you're using fedora's grub.cfg you should ask on #fedora
[03:07] <|Anthony|> sda1 /boot sda2 ubuntu sda3 win7 sda4 extended
[03:08] <|Anthony|> i installed fedora A) because grub borked and i couldn't boot B) cause i wanted to try it out
[03:08] <|Anthony|> i was hoping that a new grub install would fix the issue
[03:08] <cfhowlett> |Anthony|: #fedora
[03:08] <jagginess> you tried to fix ubuntu's grub with fedora? that's absurd.
[03:09] <jagginess> you don't fix grub by installing another distro..
[03:09] <|Anthony|> isn't grub grub? or is it curtailed for each distro
[03:09] <jagginess> |Anthony|, i explained to you yesterday i remember..
[03:09] <brous_000> how can i free up space? i installed ubuntu with wubi so it's on my D: drive. and i have about 12MB left. any way to free up space?
[03:09] <|Anthony|> explained what?
[03:09] <|Anthony|> cause this happened today
[03:10] <|Anthony|> like 4 hours ago
[03:10] <cfhowlett> |Anthony|: cross distro, like croo repo, is ill advised at best.  Also, to try other distros, consider virtualbox
[03:10] <brous_000> and something is wrong with my system and i ran sudo apt-get install -f, and it found the problem but i have no disk spacee
[03:10] <cfhowlett> brous_000: in terminal sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:10] <jagginess> |Anthony|, pcbios->sector0, loads grub,->grub looks for grub.cfg--  This grub.cfg exists on a linux filesystem-- Different grub2.xx editions can exists too(and may even differ), which is why i said #fedora if you're using grub.cfg on your fedora
[03:12] <brous_000> cfhowlett: and can you explain exactly what this does?
[03:12] <jagginess> |Anthony|, fdisk -l<enter> pastebin, i think you manually partitioned and left out the partition-id .
[03:12] <brous_000> um.... http://pastebin.com/23gLmAsa
[03:13] <cfhowlett> brous_000: updates download the various .deb packages and save them in the / system.  Normally, that cache never gets cleaned out, thus consuming space.  clean and autoremove clean out download .debs
[03:13] <Ademan> are there any window managers that will let you use keyboard shortcuts to focus certain windows? The concrete example here is I have two windows, one is a text editor, the other is a 3d viewport, I want to go between them with ctrl+e (let's say) and ctrl+p.
[03:13] <savio> help buddies
[03:13] <brous_000> when i run sudo apt-get install -f it says i have insufficient space. so it's a circle...
[03:13] <cfhowlett> brous thus freeing up space.
[03:13] <savio> ank0r, bazhang ?
[03:14] <cfhowlett> brous_000: try apt-get clean and apt-get autoremove to free up space first.
[03:14] <jagginess> Ademan, look in the keyboard settings (system settings)
[03:14] <ank0r> savio?
[03:14] <brous_000> cfhowlett: i did, http://pastebin.com/23gLmAsa
[03:14] <|Anthony|> jagginess, http://pastebin.com/YNdNx9Xn
[03:14] <savio> ank0r, do you have any fix for it?
[03:14] <ank0r> I say try some other cd or pendrive bootable linux distrom
[03:15] <ank0r> distro
[03:15] <ank0r> see if it acts the same
[03:15] <savio> ank0r, but my windows machine works fine
[03:15] <cfhowlett> brous_000: what size is your ubunt / partition?
[03:15] <Ademan> jagginess: thanks but I'm pretty sure that doesn't do what I want
[03:15] <ank0r> the ethernet card works (it does in windows) try another distro to see if it works out of the box
[03:15] <jagginess> |Anthony|, /dev/sda2 shouldnt be mounted, do e2fsck /dev/sda2
[03:16] <brous_000> cfhowlett: how do i check because i dont remember
[03:16] <jagginess> |Anthony|, or fsck.ext4
[03:16] <savio> ank0r, before a month ago i was using backtrack it works there
[03:16] <cfhowlett> brous_000: df -h
[03:16] <ank0r> seems like a driver / settings issue
[03:17] <Guest83188> 01 *    * * *   root    echo "GET UP CRON WORKED !!!! "   why doesn
[03:17] <cfhowlett> brous_000: displays partitions
[03:17] <ank0r> unfourtunatly I can't really say what to do
[03:17] <somsip> Guest83188: it has nowhere to echo it to
[03:17] <savio> ank0r, whoes gona help me
[03:17] <brous_000> cfhowlett: http://pastebin.com/iGmzkxaF
[03:17] <Guest83188> it print to screen I even tried > dev/stdout
[03:17] <ank0r> lots of googling for your ethernet card chipset and driver instruvtionis
[03:17] <|Anthony|> jagginess, /dev/sda2: clean, 354726/6406144 files, 13922565/25599577 blocks
[03:17] <ank0r> savio, it's linux
[03:17] <savio> ank0r, i also try changing  interface file
[03:17] <ank0r> you help yourself
[03:18] <cfhowlett> brous_000: is this a wubi installation, i.e. installed via windows?
[03:18] <brous_000> cfhowlett: yes...
[03:18] <savio> ank0r, there must be way
[03:19] <cfhowlett> brous_000: wubi is a TESTING platform for trying ubuntu.  It is not intended or considered a permanent installation solution.  So sayeth the wubi developers...dual boot is highly recommended.
[03:19] <jagginess> |Anthony|, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair ( I did hint twice about using mount --bind but you can try this later if boot-repair doesnt work )
[03:19] <ank0r> I'm sure there is, if it worked under backtrack and windowsm savio
[03:19] <cfhowlett> brous_000: fewer problems and more options being just 2 of the benefits of dual booting
[03:20] <jagginess> they should get rid of wubi..
[03:20] <brous_000> cfhowlett: so you're saying that i'm sort of screwed for space?
[03:20] <jagginess> because alot of people tend to want to get rid of windows
[03:20] <NetSaurio> hei
[03:20] <NetSaurio> ¿Alguien de Argerntina?
[03:20] <brous_000> i agree with jagginess
[03:21] <|Anthony|> thank you jagginess
[03:21] <cfhowlett> brous_000: you're only using 91% of /dev/loop0 so you should be able to update without problem.  Don't know what's causing to claim no space left.  Only other thing I can think of is clearing the logs, but afraid I don't know the command for that.  Ask is channel
[03:21] <cfhowlett> !alist
[03:21] <brous_000> cfhowlett: okay, so how do i update?
[03:22] <cfhowlett> brous_000: clear the logs, reboot and attempt update.  Failing that, I see no way to avoid installing dual booot.
[03:22] <Guest83188> I check the syslog and it does have entries for the cron echo but I was more wondering if there is away to redirect your echo and command output to the current screen when cron executes the specific command... I thought > /dev/stdout would work but apparently standard out is not the terminal I am at ?
[03:22] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-ar|NetSaurio:
[03:23] <crimsonmane> standard out is output to the window the program is running in
[03:23] <crimsonmane> but you should be able to pass it arguments to target a window
[03:23] <crimsonmane> (i haven't programmed in years upon years)
[03:23] <Guest83188> well what is that when cron executes it ?
[03:23] <NetSaurio> ¿Alguien de Argentina?
[03:24] <jagginess> !es
[03:26] <kaushal> Hi
[03:26] <brous_000> cfhowlett: cd /var/log/         sudo \rm *log *1 is that the code for clearing logs?
[03:26] <savio> i issue command sudo ifdown eth0
[03:26] <brous_000> replacing log and 1 respectively
[03:26] <cfhowlett> brous_000: as i said, I knoweth not.  Ask the channel
[03:26] <kaushal> I am unable to see any video call in skype in Ubuntu 11.10
[03:26] <kaushal> Any clue?
[03:26] <savio> i issue command sudo ifdown eth0
[03:26] <savio> but got error
[03:26] <savio> ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[03:26] <bazhang> brous_000, you wish to expand your wubi install? check the wubiguide for that
[03:26] <brous_000> how should one go about clearing logs
[03:26] <brous_000> for added disk space
[03:27] <savio> then i issue coomad sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[03:27] <bazhang> !repeat | savio
[03:27] <savio> it works fine
[03:27] <Guest83188> @reboot is that equal to 0 0 0 0 0
[03:27] <savio> i issue command sudo ifdown eth0
[03:27] <savio> but got error
[03:27] <savio> ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[03:27] <savio> i issue command sudo ifdown eth0
[03:27] <bazhang> savio, stop that
[03:28] <ank0r> savio, which command are you issuing?
[03:28] <savio> then i issue coomad sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[03:28] <Guest83188> because all the rest of the cron special @ short hand seem to be do able thru the * * * * * method
[03:28] <savio> it works fine
[03:28] <ank0r> Not ifdown eth0?!?!? i presume!!!>!?!?11?!1
[03:29] <savio> i used that but got error
[03:29] <bazhang> savio, stop using the enter key after every two or three words, and dont repeat your question every two minutes
[03:29] <GoldStandard> I am trying to get my printer to work and I followed the instructions in this thread exactly and my printer still won't print.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1161704
[03:30] <ank0r> bazhand, there's no helping him
[03:32] <brous_000> is this correct? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> brous_000, you asking in general or of a particular person?
[03:33] <cfhowlett> brous_000: that's the official recommendation.
[03:34] <brous_000> in general. im trying to migrate
[03:34] <savio> i got these message while dhclient eth0
[03:34] <savio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1161999/
[03:34] <brous_000> and okay, but there are a lot of codes. do i use them ALL? or what
[03:34] <savio> how do i disable ipv6
[03:35] <bazhang> !repeat | savio
[03:35] <amir__> hi
[03:35] <amir__> i need some help
[03:35] <savio> bazhang, what repeat
[03:35] <GoldStandard> anybody good with printers? ^^
[03:35] <bazhang> GoldStandard, what make and model
[03:36] <Guest59763> anyone from iran?
[03:36] <bazhang> savio, did you seem the message about not repeating every two minutes?
[03:36] <crackerjackz> how do i update the repos again?
[03:36] <bazhang> !ir | Guest59763
[03:36] <crackerjackz> sudo apt-cache udpate?
[03:36] <cfhowlett> crackerjackz: yep
[03:36] <bazhang> crackerjackz, sudo apt-get update
[03:36] <savio> bazhang, i'm not repeating did you see my post
[03:37] <crackerjackz> cfhowlett: bazhang ty
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> savio, run this gksudo gedit  /etc/default/grub and change this line adding the ipv6 notation   GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=”ipv6.disable=1 quiet splash”  close it and run sudo update-grub and reboot.
[03:37] <savio> i past messahe from dmesg
[03:37] <brous_000> and there is a step that says something about a usb/live cd boot. neither of which i have
[03:37] <savio> wilee-nilee, what about changing sysctl.conf
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> brous_000, the instructions are straight froward follow them to the tee.
[03:38] <crackerjackz> cfhowlett: im on a friends computer tryin to help him out hes running linux mint sudo apt-cache update does not work.. i assumed it would since its a debain based operating system though
[03:38] <cfhowlett> brous_000: read the tutorial.  The partitions must be created already in order to migrate.
[03:38] <cfhowlett> crackerjackz: doesn't work = ??
[03:38] <Guest59763> cpu temperature is high...what can i do?
[03:38] <bazhang> crackerjackz, it's apt-get, not apt-cache
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> savio, I don't know but I do know that this method works it tells the kernel to not use it.
[03:38] <brous_000> wilee-nilee so even though it talks about sd5 sd6 and sd7 (i only have sd2) i can still do it?
[03:38] <crackerjackz> bazhang: oops ty for pointing that out
[03:38] <cfhowlett> !mint|crackerjackz: best bet is to ask on #mint
[03:39] <crackerjackz> #mint does not exist
[03:39] <cfhowlett> brous_000: you sd5 is in wubi, right?  NOT GOING TO WORK!  you need to partition your HDD
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> brous_000, you would change those notations to the partitons you have made ahead of time accordingly
[03:39] <crackerjackz> come to it and see... im in there.. only one there
[03:39] <cfhowlett> crackerjackz: #linuxmint
[03:39] <bazhang> savio, what is the output of lsb_release -a
[03:40] <crackerjackz> cfhowlett: ahhhh ty
[03:40] <cfhowlett> crackerjackz: #linuxmint-help
[03:40] <brous_000> wilee-nilee so my hard drive is the one with the most space (11G) (\dev\sd2)
[03:40] <brous_000> right?
[03:40] <savio> it says no lsb module available
[03:41] <bazhang> savio, then try again, with the -a
[03:41] <Guest59763> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:41] <savio> i try
[03:41] <savio> No LSB modules are available.
[03:41] <savio> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[03:41] <savio> Description:	Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[03:41] <savio> Release:	12.04
[03:41] <savio> Codename:	precise
[03:41] <FloodBot1> savio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:41] <savio> sorry
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> brous_000, only you know this you will use a live cd I think I have never done this myself I have never transferred a wubi, check the partition with gparted or run sudo fdisk-l to confirm the partitions on the live cd, you will build them there anyway.
[03:43] <cfhowlett> brous_000: of course, you COULD just download an ubuntu iso, burn a cdrom/usb and clean install...no migration necessary.
[03:43] <trisquel> yeh
[03:43] <brous_000> cfhowlett: i only have a 4gb usb, and where can i SAFELY and PROPERLY install the iso
[03:44] <trisquel> yeah
[03:44] <brous_000> wilee-nilee i have \sda1 and \sda2
[03:45] <cfhowlett> brous_000: 4 g is more than enough for ubuntu.  In fact, I'm pretty sure the cdrom/usb only requires 1.9 gigs.
[03:45] <SuperMiguel> is there a reason to use intel matrix to create a raid 0 instead of linux software raid?
[03:45] <cfhowlett> brous_000: in windows, download iso, create USB with unetbootin
[03:45] <brous_000> cfhowlett: is there a certain website i should get it from? or where?
[03:46] <brous_000> cfhowlett: im just trying to make sure i do it right
[03:46] <cfhowlett> brous_000: get ubuntu from ubuntu and ... wait 1 ...
[03:46] <bazhang> unetbootin.sourceforge.net brous_000
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> brous_000, If you are nervous about this the user who set up the way of doing this is on the ubuntu forms daily, make a thread and be sure to have wubi in the header and they will help you, realy their help is best.
[03:47] <cfhowlett> brous_000: unetbootin at http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[03:47] <cfhowlett> brous_000: yeah, what wilee-nilee said...
[03:47] <Guest59763> cpu temperature is high in ubuntu 12.04...i have installed jupiter...
[03:48] <brous_000> wilee-nilee: i'm not that nervous about it, i just don't want to get it from some random website and  have something malfunction and then be left with nothing
[03:49] <wilee-nilee> brous_000, back up what you can't loose at the least.
[03:49] <Guest59763> cpu temperature is high in ubuntu 12.04
 i have installed jupiter...
[03:49] <brous_000> wilee-nilee: well off i go. if i return to xchat, then it has been successful, if not. then, oh well :p
[03:52] <Guest59763> PLeaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!
[03:52] <cfhowlett> !patience|Guest59763:
[03:54] <GoldStandard> bazhang back, sorry, my connection died.  The last thing i saw was my post: "bazhang and I was following these instructions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1161704"
[03:56] <GoldStandard> I am trying to install drivers for my Canon PIXMA IP1700 by following the instructions on this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1161704" but still cannot print.
[03:59] <eedeep> does anyone know why in 12.04 when I do Ctrl+L to select the address bar contents in firefox that doesn't end up in the X11 clipboard? (ie, I can't middle click paste it)
[03:59] <eedeep> but when I select it with the mouse, it does
[03:59] <Flynn> anyone know how to fix rxvt-unicode to show japanese and korean text
[04:00] <GoldStandard> Anyone good with print drivers?
[04:01] <trisquel> i wish
[04:02] <fishbait> is there any sort of virtual assistant software for ubuntu 12.04?
[04:03] <eedeep> like the Microsoft PaperClip?
[04:03] <cfhowlett> Fishbait  Linux Richard?
[04:04] <matiosiem5> eedeep, Ctrl+L then Shift-End is working :P
[04:06] <GoldStandard> easier question: what are good customization programs for ubuntu.  I read somewhere there are some "essentials" when it comes to customization.
[04:07] <eedeep> matiosiem5: yeah I already tested that but my habits are hard wired now that I'm getting old
[04:09] <matiosiem5> eedeep, I see, you sure its ubuntu problem or just firefox ?
[04:09] <eedeep> well it may be a firefox problem
[04:10] <cfhowlett> fishbait: nina  http://www.linuxinsider.com/story/75838.html
[04:10] <eedeep> matiosiem5: I guess it is a firefox problem cos if I do say Ctrl+A to select all, that middle click pastes fine
[04:10] <fishbait> ty
[04:12] <matiosiem5> eedeep, yup, I think so too, Ctrl+L is not selecting anything just going to adress bar and looks like select
[04:15] <akls> how can I switch to left handed dvorak keyboard layout from command line? dvorak-l seems to be the wrong name for it
[04:15] <Folding> hey all I am on my old core 2 duo laptop using a live-usb since this laptop has no HD anymore. I am just going to use this to run folding @ home 24//7 how do I make a persistent USB ??
[04:16] <akls> Folding, just install to usb?
[04:16] <akls> Folding, there are some tutorials out there on the internet
[04:17] <Folding> akls, I dont think I can install to usb while booted from it...
[04:17] <akls> Folding, and you have no cdrom?
[04:17] <Folding> broken of course, this is a laptop ;-) I do have another usb I can use.
[04:17] <Folding> so let me try that.
[04:17] <akls> just get another pc?
[04:18] <cfhowlett> Folding: usb HDD?
[04:18] <Folding> lol i have plenty of computers and laptops I am just going to use this one to fold.
[04:19] <cfhowlett> Folding: fold what?  clothes?  no idea what you're talking about...
[04:19] <histo> Folding: use the startup disk creator to create a persistent usb
[04:19] <Folding> can I just use the big install button on the top left, it sees my other usb stick now
[04:21] <Folding> histo, do I need to use the startup disc creator or will just using the install to disc tool be fine?
[04:21] <SuperMiguel> /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d is no longer there?
[04:21] <histo> Folding: you could
[04:22] <starZ> hi people, could sound stupid but i tryed changing the mouse cursor on 12.04 with update alternatives but it's only showing on some wondows.. is there any other workaround ??
[04:23] <akls> starZ, did you reboot?
[04:23] <starZ> akls: of course..
[04:24] <starZ> akls: any idea.. ??
[04:24] <histo> starZ: change it back
[04:24] <akls> starZ, maybe you should specify which windows have this problem
[04:25] <abdelghani> can i change the appearance of the desktop's icons?
[04:26] <starZ> akls: well, the new theme is showing on almost every window including gnome-terminal except the desktop, panel and menu..
[04:26] <akls> dunno
[04:27] <histo> abdelghani: yes you can install icon themes in ~/.icons  and I believe with myunity it will allow you to change the default icon theme
[04:27] <trisquel> nice
[04:27] <abdelghani> histo: and the color as well?
[04:27] <starZ> akls: is it something with gnome3 ??
[04:28] <histo> abdelghani: have a look at gnome-look.org for icon themes
[04:28] <akls> starZ, I can't guess, I don't use gnome
[04:28] <abdelghani> thank you
[04:28] <starZ> histro: what do you mean by change it back?
[04:29] <starZ> akls: thx anyway..
[04:29] <histo> starZ: change the mouse pointer theme back to the default one.
[04:29] <akls> I'm using this command:"setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle "us,dvorak,dvorak-l" "  but I get this error: Error loading new keyboard description. This is because of dvorak-l layout. How can I get it to work?
[04:29] <primed15> I've got a question
[04:30] <primed15> How does one go about going from Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop to Ubuntu 12.04 Server?
[04:30] <starZ> histo: lol.. welcome to super linux..
[04:30] <histo> primed15: installing the server kernel
[04:31] <primed15> Do I have to download the entire iso ?
[04:32] <Gnea> !print
[04:32] <Folding> primed15, you can just remove all the desktop packages
[04:32] <histo> primed15: no only if you want ot reinstall. Otherwise you can use apt-get and install the server kernel. If you want it like the server iso does then you will have to remove the gui etc..
[04:33] <aum__> i have a thermal printer with auto cutting function , its printing fine but auto cutting functionality is not working ,is there any way to do so...
[04:33] <Gnea> Hmm, I can't seem to print anymore.  I get this kernel message: Aug 22 23:30:17 iacon kernel: [43033.139668] Did not find alt setting 1 for intf 0, config 1
[04:33] <akls> I'm using this command:"setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle "us,dvorak,dvorak-l" "  but I get this error: Error loading new keyboard description. This is because of dvorak-l layout. How can I get it to work?
[04:33] <Gnea> I'm on 12.04 with a 3.2.0-27-generic kernel, not sure what the problem is, what should I do?
[04:34] <primed15> What is the complete syntax?
[04:34] <primed15> Just to get the kernel?
[04:35] <histo> primed15: actualy I just found in since 12.04 there is no difference in the kernel
[04:35] <crimsonmane> primed15: i have always obtained kernels with this: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=40185&sid=fb1f2339e37e92e120cf0203bbb515ac
[04:35] <primed15> okay. so how do I get the server packages without reinstalling?
[04:36] <histo> primed15: linux-image-server has been merged into linux-image-generic as of 12.04's release.
[04:41] <aum__> i have a thermal printer with auto cutting function , its printing fine but auto cutting functionality is not working ,is there any way to do so...
[04:42] <histo> !patience | aum__
[04:43] <Areckx>   663 root      18  -2  5996 2436 2008 R   94  0.1   9:50.33 iphone-set-info
[04:43] <Areckx> it is running at 100% and I keep sudo kill 663 pkill iphone-set-info it won't goi away what is gfoing on?
[04:43] <Areckx> my iphone isn't even plugged into usb anymore
[04:44] <kbuel> you could raise the interrupt level
[04:44] <Areckx> xorg is also running at 60%+
[04:44] <kbuel> as in kill -9
[04:44] <Areckx> kbuel::  what does that do?
[04:45] <histo> Areckx: sudo kill -9 663
[04:45] <akls> I'm using this command:"setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle "us,dvorak,dvorak-l" "  but I get this error: Error loading new keyboard description. This is because of dvorak-l layout. How can I get it to work?
[04:45] <akls> please help, this drives me crazy :\
[04:45] <Areckx> histo::  what does that do?
[04:45] <kbuel> Areckx, kill -9 <process-id> is super kill
[04:45] <akls> can somebody try it on their 12.04 installation to see if it's working for them?
[04:45] <Areckx> kbuel::  what does that even mean?
[04:45] <kbuel> Areckx, it is a hard kill
[04:45] <Areckx> kbuel::  that isn't answering... how can you kill a process more?
[04:45] <Areckx> isn't kill just kill
[04:46] <kbuel> Areckx, basically, kill without a parameter signal to the process to close itself
[04:46] <histo> Areckx: no there are different interrupt levels kill by itself try's to kill the process nicely asking it to close itself
[04:46] <kbuel> Areckx, kill -9, informs the os to remove it from the processing stack
[04:46] <histo> Areckx: man kill if you want to read more about it
[04:47] <Areckx> oh like I see it just outright ends it
[04:47] <Areckx> but xorg is still at 60% what is going on?
[04:47] <Areckx> but why -9?
[04:47] <Areckx> why not -8? it seems so specific a number
[04:47] <kbuel> Areckx, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fow7iUaKrq4
[04:48] <histo> Areckx: I can't explain every kill level to you in here if you type "man kill" in the terminal it will display the manual for it and go into more detail.
[04:49] <Sir_Tristan> i cannot get the side bar to load with ops and people in the channel
[04:50] <Areckx> the info page for kill is even more confusing, why  do the creators of these processes make things so complicated? why not just sudo kill -force [PID] ???
[04:50] <akls> I'm using this command:"setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle "us,dvorak,dvorak-l" "  but I get this error: Error loading new keyboard description. This is because of dvorak-l layout. How can I get it to work?
[04:51] <histo> Areckx: dunno perhaps you'd have to askt he author of the package. It's also open source so you can modify it to your liking
[04:51] <Areckx> I'm really trying to learn here, I don't understand why there has to be random numbers
[04:51] <Areckx> histo::  I just want to understand the concept...
[04:51] <crimsonmane> Areckx: one sec i'm looking it up.
[04:52] <Sir_Tristan> Can anyone help me please?
[04:52] <trisquel> 99 %
[04:52] <Areckx> I mean I'm sure there's a very specific reason why you must use random numbers instead of -force, I wanbt to know for educational reasons
[04:52] <trisquel> is the percentage
[04:52] <Sir_Tristan> Using xchat and cannot see ops or users
[04:52] <histo> Areckx: it's not a random number I believe it has to due with interrupt levels and devices
[04:52] <Areckx> why is my xorg cpu% so high?
[04:53] <Areckx> histo::  but how did you come up with the -9 for my question? what inductive reasoning did you use?
[04:53] <crimsonmane> Areckx: there's other numbers that apply. -9 is the "i dont give a rip who you are or what you're doing, you're shutting down"
[04:53] <bazhang> Areckx, its way offtopic for ubuntu support
[04:54] <Areckx> crimsonmane::  oh ok but where did you find that in the info page? (I like info more than man... man sounds too sweaty and smelly with muscles...) lol
[04:54] <Areckx> bazhang::  it's n ubunut?> package???
[04:54] <bazhang> Areckx, thats enough.
[04:54] <Areckx> bazhang::  I'm seriously trying to learn...
[04:54] <bazhang> Areckx, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[04:55] <Areckx> it's ot chit-chat, it';s a serious question about the command!
[04:55] <bazhang> Areckx, understanding the kill -9 is nothing specific about Ubuntu support
[04:55] <akls> help :(
[04:55] <Nautilus> working on this again... for anyone that uses NX (NoMachine remote desktop), did you have any trouble seeing 12.04 UI (Unity toolbar, etc) on the client box?  I have the desktop, an icon for a test file I made show up, and I can right-click the desktop to adjust properties.  Just no 12.04 UI
[04:55] <Areckx> bazhang::  werll anyway, I keep having intermittent problems with xorg, what's going on?
[04:56] <Areckx> Can anyone help point me in the right direction of what kind of commands I should start typing to fix my xorg?
[04:57] <histo> Areckx: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/C++Signals.html
[04:58] <histo> Areckx: relates directly back to POSIX standards
[04:58] <crimsonmane> Areckx: http://www.osdata.com/programming/shell/kill.html
[04:59] <Areckx> histo crimsonmane  ::  thanks for the reading material, I want to learn as much as possible about linux
[04:59] <histo> Areckx: the link I posted describes all off the types of signals with them in order by number and you will find why 9 is 9
[05:00] <Areckx> histo::  thanks!
[05:00] <Areckx> histo::  it feels so good to have a question and then have the information there... I love demystifying linux!
[05:01] <nbastin> anyone have experience PXE installing ubuntu?
[05:01] <notwo> I have some trouble , seems that I installed ubuntu succesfully but after the restart, it didnt ask me to choose an operating system as it should do, instead it loaded me to windows directly. What did I do wrong?
[05:01] <akls> I'm using this command:"setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle "us,dvorak,dvorak-l" "  but I get this error: Error loading new keyboard description. This is because of dvorak-l layout. How can I get it to work?
[05:01] <Sir_Tristan> Can anyone help me out, the sidebar with users and ops does not show up for me
[05:01] <histo> notwo: grub did not get installed to the MBR
[05:02] <histo> !grub | notwo
[05:02] <notwo> oh
[05:02] <Areckx> ok so I see, histo  It is based on the C commands
[05:02] <notwo> thanx
[05:02] <notwo> I will check it out
[05:02] <histo> Areckx: that would be my guess since it mirrors programming signal interupts
[05:03] <Sir_Tristan> Can anyone help me out, the sidebar with users and ops does not show up for meCan anyone help me out, the sidebar with users and ops does not show up for meCan anyone help me out, the sidebar with users and ops does not show up for me
[05:03] <Sir_Tristan> Can anyone help me out, the sidebar with users and ops does not show up for me
[05:03] <Sir_Tristan> Can anyone help me out, the sidebar with users and ops does not show up for me
[05:03] <crimsonmane> wow 64 different ways to kill stuff
[05:03] <FloodBot1> Sir_Tristan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:03] <Sir_Tristan> Can anyone help me out, the sidebar with users and ops does not show up for meCan anyone help me out, the sidebar with users and ops does not show up for meCan anyone help me out, the sidebar with users and ops does not show up for meCan anyone help me out, the sidebar with users and ops does not show up for meCan anyone help me out, the sidebar with users and ops does not show up for meCan anyone help me out, the sidebar with u
[05:03] <bazhang> Sir_Tristan, no need to repeat like that
[05:03] <Areckx> histo::  that is a very useful webpage I might print out a sheet out for reference for when I have very specific needs with my processes, don't expect to have any need anytime soon but good to have ready
[05:03] <Areckx> or write them down into my notebook for easy nte taking
[05:03] <Sir_Tristan> nobody has helped, after asking like 5 times
[05:04] <bazhang> Sir_Tristan, asking more often will not get a faster answer
[05:04] <histo> Areckx: you can email the author of kill to be sure albert@users.sf.net
[05:04] <nbastin> Sir_Tristan: you asked 5 times in...6 seconds
[05:04] <nbastin> that's not going to make you a lot of friends
[05:05] <Sir_Tristan> irc is lame
[05:05] <histo> Sir_Tristan: side bar in what? irc?
[05:05] <Sir_Tristan> I am using xchat
[05:05] <Sir_Tristan> at work i can see ops and users
[05:05] <Sir_Tristan> at home i cannot
[05:05] <Sir_Tristan> It is pissing me off.
[05:05] <bazhang> Sir_Tristan, xchat? or xchat-gnome
[05:05] <Sir_Tristan> xchat
[05:05] <Areckx> bazhang::  that looks like a thrilling read, bookmarked
[05:05] <nbastin> Speaking of lame....I'm trying to PXE install 12.04 and it doesn't let me select what interface I want to use to deliver the netboot information over - is there a kernel param I can pass in the pxe config file to tweak this?
[05:05] <Areckx> I am very interested in learning about how programming works
[05:05] <bazhang> Areckx, what does
[05:06] <Areckx> bazhang::  http://www.osdata.com/progbook/programmingindex.html
[05:06] <bazhang> Areckx, why are you discussing that here
[05:06] <brous_000> wilee-nilee: it worked, thanks for helping
[05:07] <Sir_Tristan> bazchang: any help?
[05:07] <bazhang> Sir_Tristan, this is the Ubuntu install of xchat?
[05:07] <Areckx> bazhang::  I don't know I have trouble retaining train of thought across multiple channels
[05:07] <Sir_Tristan> windows 7
[05:08] <Sir_Tristan> prolly the reason lol
[05:08] <bazhang> Areckx, well this is not the place for it
[05:08] <Areckx> bazhang::  sorry o_O;
[05:08] <bazhang> Sir_Tristan, so the silverex one?
[05:08] <TheHumanScience> can somebody please help me. I was trying to install to install 10.04 on an Acer netbook because the Windows 7 Starter crashed...after the install got to about 95% it froze for like an hour.
[05:09] <bazhang> Sir_Tristan, you should ask in #xchat   as this is for ubuntu support
[05:09] <Sir_Tristan> ubuntu is awesome though
[05:10] <bazhang> Sir_Tristan, the silverex and wdk builds of xchat are somewhat different from the ubuntu one iirc ask in #xchat
[05:12] <brous_000> if i downloaded ubuntu 12.04 LTS on a flash drive, and boot it from the usb, do i have to keep it plugged in?
[05:12] <goodtime> yes
[05:12] <kbuel> brous_000, yes
[05:12] <nbastin> brous_000: yes
[05:13] <nbastin> brous_000: If you don't want to keep it plugged in you need to install it to a ramdisk (~2gb should do)
[05:13] <nbastin> of course, then you better not have your computer shut off...
[05:13] <Jak_Atackka> Hello! Could anyone out there help me with installing Grub?
[05:13] <brous_000> crap, my usb is somehow shorted out (no cover because it broke) and it heats up within 2 minutes of being plugged in
[05:13] <brous_000> i don't want it to get overheated
[05:13] <bazhang> !grub2 | Jak_Atackka have a read first
[05:13] <brous_000> nbastin: how do i do so?
[05:13] <Jak_Atackka> bazhang: I'm at the install phase, and keep hitting an error
[05:14] <Jak_Atackka> Well, more specifically, I keep hitting a string of errors, but this one I can't fix
[05:14] <Jak_Atackka> "Path '/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting."
[05:15] <chuck_> can anybody point me in the right direction, please?
[05:15] <kbuel> chuck_ did you have a question
[05:16] <histo> chuck_: did you try verifying the cd that you burned?
[05:16] <histo> !md5sum | chuck_
[05:16] <histo> kbuel: he did under a different name
[05:17] <chuck_> I was trying to install to install 10.04 on an Acer netbook because the Windows 7 Starter crashed...after the install got to about 95% it froze for like an hour. Now it wont even let me boot from the usb and run ubuntu. How do i get past the initramfs?
[05:17] <goodtime> idk
[05:18] <kbuel> histo, oh thanks :)
[05:18] <Areckx> Help! xorg problems http://paste.ubuntu.com/1162084/
[05:18] <goodtime> ill bbl
[05:18] <chuck_> ive never seen a case where i couldnt boot from the usb and at least RUN ubuntu. What can i do to fix the bootloader?
[05:19] <Jak_Atackka> Is anyone here able to help with my stupid GRUB error?
[05:22] <tek4> hi...electricity went out... then my pc wont start it says bios file not found, running a ubuntu via usb or cd wont work,is there a way to fix this
[05:22] <Areckx> tek4::  wow that is a nasty one
[05:23] <tek4> i know
[05:23] <tek4> i know
[05:23] <Areckx> tek4::  you may need to open up and solder
[05:23] <tek4> wow that big
[05:23] <Areckx> don't take my word for it though I hope someone can help you
[05:23] <tek4> you mean a chip
[05:23] <Areckx> sounds like something got fried
[05:24] <Areckx> there may be a software workaround... you never know
[05:24] <tek4> how can i test if the mothe rboard is gone
[05:24] <Areckx> I made myself out to sound like an expert... my dad is more into that area, I'm more of a ... newbie? lol
[05:24] <tek4> cause i manage to load a update bios code
[05:25] <tek4> pleazeeeee could you ask your dad
[05:25] <tek4> im quite sad dont know if my info still there
[05:25] <Areckx> I haven't lived with him for years, and he'll tell me to go away lol
[05:25] <Jak_Atackka> Odds are your data is fine
[05:25] <Areckx> take out the hard drive and try it in another computer if you have one available, call a friend if you must
[05:26] <Jak_Atackka> I had an integrated graphics chip crap out and take the motherboard with it. The hard drive was intact, though
[05:26] <tek4> i guess should do taht
[05:26] <Areckx> then at least you can get that off your worries
[05:26] <tek4> ok
[05:26] <Areckx> but you can probably get a rerplacement chip of the same exact model and solder it in
[05:26] <tek4> so if the bios is gone a new motherboard is needed
[05:27] <tek4> hmmmm
[05:27] <tek4> that sounds cheaper
[05:27] <Areckx> might be cheaper than new motherboard
[05:27] <WACOMalt> would anyone be willing to help me write a bash script? I'm trying to run wget for a range of URLS. basically images with incrementing numbers.
[05:27] <GoldStandard> I am trying to install my Canon PIXMA IP1700 but when I try to print something it says "processing" and then the task disappears.  Nothing prints.
[05:27] <Areckx> if it is just a bios problem, there may be problems with other parts though, but you need to be bootable first
[05:27] <Areckx> then you can test everything else out
[05:27] <Areckx> try to find the technical page for your model, you can find the exaqct watt usage and voltage
[05:28] <tek4> Areckx: this is a tricky one
[05:28] <Areckx> and get a voltage/wattage/amerage meter
[05:28] <Areckx> to see if everything is running right
[05:28] <WACOMalt> I need to make a script that runs "wget http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl-raw-images/msss/00000/mrdi/0000MD9999000%%%E1_DXXX.jpg" but the %'s at the ends are replaced with 1 - 1000
[05:28] <tek4> i did already and have a uploaded bio code into a usb
[05:28] <Areckx> this is the kind of stuff I got from growing up with my dad, I know words like this but not really about how to go about doing them lol
[05:28] <Areckx> he worked at Hewlett Packard for 20 years
[05:28] <tek4> then it work then it says disk system not correct
[05:29] <Areckx> yeah that probably has to do with the usb
[05:29] <tek4> this used to happen to me when the hd with the loading ubuntu was booting but then electriciti go off
[05:29] <WACOMalt> please anyone I have been trying to write this script for awhile now
[05:29] <Areckx> the bios can't load the usb drivers
[05:29] <chuck_> anybody familiar with initramfs?
[05:29] <tek4> no isnt a driver
[05:30] <tek4> is a file with bbs extention
[05:30] <tek4> is a file with bbs extention
[05:30] <tek4> it loads fine
[05:30] <FloodBot1> tek4: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:30] <tek4> f12
[05:31] <Areckx> tek4::  well, if you are uytting it into a usb drive, the drive needs to be loaded into your ram in  order to be used
[05:31] <Areckx> and if you have a fried bios, it will run with errors
[05:31] <GoldStandard> anyone familiar with getting printers to work? :P
[05:31] <WACOMalt> I'm trying to download all the Mars JPL landing images which were just released a few days ago. I have the filename range
[05:31] <chuck_> anybody able to refer me to the right channel for my issue with initramfs?
[05:31] <tek4> if i go f12 then it loads fine the flash bios page then it says reading file and then  restart normally then wont load the hd or usb with ubuntu on it
[05:32] <Areckx> GoldStandard::  tyhere might be a paperclip or something jammed in it, I had that problem once and it fixed everything
[05:32] <tek4> in order to test my mother board should i take it to another computer??  is this the only way??
[05:33] <GoldStandard> areckx no i mean drivers
[05:33] <GoldStandard> areckx works fine on windows, can't get it to work in ubuntu
[05:33] <Areckx> tek4::  I would suggest getting the technical information for all of your hardware, finding all of the points of contact where the wattage/etc has to be a certain range, and if any of them are out of wack, replace them
[05:33] <Areckx> tek4::  or get a new motherboard entirely if that is simpler
[05:33] <tek4> what printer model it is?
[05:33] <GoldStandard> tek4 canon PIXMA ip1700
[05:33] <mordonez> Hi guys, for some reason when I enter with unity desktop enviroment, guake alt+1 key binding do not work
[05:33] <mordonez> any ideas?
[05:33] <Areckx> GoldStandard::  did you do a google sesarch yet?
[05:34] <GoldStandard> areckx yes i followed some instructions on the ubuntu forums, one sec lemme find it
[05:34] <tek4> lexmark where a pain in the rear end but cups helop me on that
[05:34] <Chux> anybody ever get answered in here?
[05:34] <Areckx> Chux::  yes
[05:34] <tek4> yep
[05:34] <Areckx> I have been helped tremendously dozens of times
[05:34] <Chux> please, i need help
[05:34] <Areckx> in addition to google searches and patience
[05:34] <GoldStandard> areckx third post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1161704
[05:35] <Chux> i cant boot ubuntu 10.o4 on netbook.
[05:35] <Areckx> Chux::  do you have a 32 bit or 64 bit ?
[05:35] <Chux> 32
[05:35] <Areckx> amd or i386?
[05:35] <mordonez> Guys, do you know how can I see what is taking that key combination?
[05:35] <mordonez> alt+1
[05:35] <Chux> i386
[05:36] <Areckx> did you download the correct iso and burn it correctly? or use unetbootin correctly?
[05:36] <Areckx> mordonez::  you can try looking in compiz config if you have it, there may be an alt+1 set
[05:36] <Chux> i keep getting killed on the boot. a prompt with "initramfs" keeps popping up. yes, iso fine.
[05:37] <Areckx> Chux::  did you set boot order ?
[05:37] <GoldStandard> areckx did you check it out?
[05:37] <Chux> yep
[05:37] <mordonez> I tried that
[05:37] <mordonez> and nothing seems to be using alt+1 on unity
[05:38] <Chux> Areckx: Ive installed ubuntu 100 times and never encountered anything like this.
[05:38] <Areckx> GoldStandard::  well drivers are tough, try as many solutions as you find until one works... just how it is sometimes... I know it's frustrating but ONCE you get something to work in linux it will never fail unless you change it
[05:39] <Areckx> or the hardware fries lol
[05:39] <GoldStandard> areckx ok, i'll keep looking.  This is my second "solution" btw
[05:39] <Areckx> GoldStandard::  I really hope you find a solution.  I'm trying to fix my xorg right now
[05:39] <GoldStandard> areckx xorg?
[05:40] <Areckx> GoldStandard::  yeah it keeps on hitting 60%+ cpu usage
[05:40] <GoldStandard> no like i dont know what it is
[05:40] <Areckx> and it may be due to compiz, but I need that for desktop zoom, and I think it's because of my graphics drivers
[05:40] <Chux> i even attached the hd as a master to another PC and it still comes up with the same "initramfs".
[05:40] <GoldStandard> pretty noobish to linux
[05:40] <Areckx> GoldStandard::  Im not sure what xorg is, really, but I'm pretty sure it's comparable to "explorer" in windows
[05:40] <mordonez> any other ideas?
[05:41] <GoldStandard> areckx gotcha
[05:41] <Areckx> it controls all of the graphics commands I guess
[05:41] <hwkiller-netbook> xorg is an implementation of a [really really old] windowing system standard.
[05:41] <hwkiller-netbook> explorer is comparable to xorg + decorator + window manager
[05:41] <Areckx> DESCRIPTION
[05:41] <Areckx>        Xorg  is a full featured X server that was originally designed for UNIX
[05:41] <Areckx>        and UNIX-like operating systems running on Intel x86 hardware.  It  now
[05:41] <Areckx>        runs on a wider range of hardware and OS platforms.
[05:41] <FloodBot1> Areckx: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:41] <Areckx> oops...
[05:42] <Areckx> thought it would fit one line o_O
[05:42] <Chux> Areckx: any other ideas/
[05:42] <Chux> ?
[05:43] <Areckx> Chux::  sorry I can't really be of help
[05:43] <need_help> hey need help!! i have HP dv6 laptop, Ubuntu 11.04 and above while trying to install it give me: error input/output error hdd when trying to copy files during the installation process while : Ubuntu 10.10 or 10.04 it's installed normally and works fine!! why ? thanks in advance
[05:43] <Areckx> Good luck Chux  ^_^
[05:44] <brous_000> how do i move my iso from the usb to my ramdisk so i can take my usb out
[05:44] <scoldog> Anyone here know much about udhcpd?
[05:44] <Chux> any idea what other channels might help?
[05:44] <scoldog> I nneed an example udhcpd.conf for use with multiple nic's
[05:45] <scoldog> I've got plenty for dhcpd
[05:45] <scoldog> All the udhcp.conf I find on the web are just copies of the file I get when I first installed it
[05:46] <Areckx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1162100/ how to update graphics drivers?
[05:46] <maslen> Hey, I recently upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04, and now when it boots up, I don't get the login menu, only a text prompt. If I run 'startx', it appears as if the system hangs
[05:46] <maslen> Could someone help please?
[05:46] <Chux> what busy box? is anybody familiar with busy box?
[05:48] <tavasti> Chux, what about bysybox?
[05:48] <tavasti> maslen, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:48] <Chux> thats what im getting as a recovery tool on install. how can i use that to get back to the bootloader?
[05:49] <maslen> tavasti: "Kernel Module version matches driver"
[05:49] <maslen> "DRI initialization sucessfull"
[05:50] <tavasti> Chux, reboot ?
[05:50] <tavasti> maslen, look for lines with (EE)
[05:50] <Chux> many times
[05:51] <maslen> tavasti: I looked at it with tail. Sould I have looked at more?
[05:51] <histo> need_help: check your hard drive for errors
[05:51] <tavasti> maslen, yes
[05:51] <histo> maslen: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep (EE)
[05:51] <tavasti> grep '(EE)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:51] <histo> tavasti: or that lol
[05:52] <ganster> hi
[05:52] <histo> tavasti: why did you put the (EE) in '
[05:52] <tavasti> try it without, and you see
[05:53] <rypervenche> cat grepper, lol.
[05:53] <hwkiller-netbook> because your terminal thinks you mean something special by parentheses
[05:53] <hwkiller-netbook> so '(EE)' tells your terminal "no no, I mean literal parentheses"
[05:53] <Jak_Atackka> Let me try again. Does anyone here know how to set up a /boot partition?
[05:53] <tavasti> not terminal, but shell
[05:53] <rypervenche> Jak_Atackka: Yep.
[05:53] <maslen> tavasti: Nope, only two hits: one in the explanation of the markers, and when it says 'MIT-SCREEN-SAVER"
[05:53] <hwkiller-netbook> tavasti: yes, I know, but I don't think he would care now would he?
[05:53] <histo> tavasti: gotcha is there any other special characters that would need the '
[05:53] <tavasti> Chux, any idea why you end up to recovery shell?
[05:54] <histo> !ask | Jak_Atackka
[05:54] <hwkiller-netbook> histo: quite a few. : $ ! { [, among others
[05:54] <tavasti> histo, ( ) is special
[05:54] <histo> hwkiller-netbook: so basically symbols
[05:54] <Chux> tavasti it happned after a failed install
[05:54] <tavasti> tavasti@hermo:~$ grep (EE) foo
[05:54] <tavasti> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `EE'
[05:54] <maslen> tavasti: So in other words, no fancy errors :(
[05:54] <hwkiller-netbook> you can also escape using backslashes: grep \(EE\)
[05:55] <Jak_Atackka> rypervenche: I believe that I've installed Linux correctly; I just need to make my UEFI BIOS recognize it. Could you possibly help with that?
[06:01] <maslen> If I try running 'fglrxinfo', it says "Error: Unable to open display (null)"
[06:02] <Ascavasaion> Hello there.  I upgraded to 11.04, and the new interface is dreadful.  Does it change back to the old one when you upgrade to 12.04?
[06:02] <auronandace> !unity | Ascavasaion
[06:03] <Ascavasaion> auronandace: thank you!!!
[06:03] <Ascavasaion> !notunity
[06:03] <auronandace> Ascavasaion: 11.04 is the last release to have gnome2
[06:03] <Ascavasaion> auronandace: Oh, what does 12.04 have then?
[06:04] <auronandace> Ascavasaion: unity (on top of gnome3)
[06:04] <Ascavasaion> auronandace: Oh, pity... well let me see if I can get rid of this Unity... I find it dreadful.
[06:04] <auronandace> Ascavasaion: its not as bad as i thought it would be
[06:05] <Ascavasaion> auronandace: Do you think I should persevere a little and see if I can get used to it?
[06:05] <auronandace> Ascavasaion: sure, if not you can always find an alternative
[06:06] <auronandace> Ascavasaion: you just need to get used to the fact that gnome2 will soon be unsupported completely
[06:06] <ciccioformaggio> ?list
[06:06] <ciccioformaggio> !list
[06:07] <Ascavasaion> auronandace: Okay, cool man.  hehehe
[06:09] <rabbi11> which is correct server .iso file for intel 64 bit processor ?
[06:09] <auronandace> Ascavasaion: 11.04 support ends in october and 10.04 desktop support ends in april, after that no more gnome2
[06:10] <histo> auronandace: there is mate
[06:10] <auronandace> rabbi11: the one with amd64 in its name
[06:10] <maslen> apparently the issue is lightdm is not starting
[06:10] <auronandace> histo: if canonical decides to support it
[06:10] <Ascavasaion> auronandace: I am running a Centrino dualcore with 2Gb RAM... could it handle Gnome3?
[06:11] <auronandace> Ascavasaion: its more of a question of your graphics card
[06:11] <tavasti> maslen, read the whole Xorg.log with less, and look foor WW lines also
[06:12] <tavasti> if they would give a hint what is the problem
[06:12] <Ascavasaion> auronandace: I have no idea about my graphics card.
[06:12] <brous_000> how do i disable  my built-in keyboard? i typed in the command "xinput --list" where do i go from there?
[06:12] <auronandace> Ascavasaion: pastebin: lspci
[06:13] <rabbi11> auronandace: not amd, i got intel
[06:13] <auronandace> rabbi11: it isn't amd specific
[06:13] <rabbi11> auronandace: works for both ?
[06:13] <auronandace> rabbi11: amd64 is just the name they give to 64bit support (because amd came first)
[06:14] <Ascavasaion> auronandace: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1162130/
[06:15] <auronandace> Ascavasaion: intel graphics, i have no idea how gnome3 will handle that
[06:15] <halpurt> hello
[06:15] <rabbi11> :) ok thanks
[06:16] <Ascavasaion> auronandace: Oh, okay hehe
[06:16] <namoamitabuddha> What's asciicircum in Ubuntu?
[06:17] <Andy80> a very generic question about Ubuntu and graphic cards support: do you usually get more help requests from people using nVidia or ATI? I will probably buy a new laptop next month and I'd like to choose the graphic card that has less problems ;) I usually did choose nVidia, but I've always had issues both on my notebook and on my desktop PC. Thanks
[06:21] <tek4> is this the only ubuntu channel
[06:23] <GoldStandard> how do you ignore missing dependencies
[06:23] <auronandace> GoldStandard: do you know what a dependency is?
[06:24] <darkdowN> hey folks!
[06:24] <darkdowN> quick q, I just upgrade to 12.04, and accidentally hit 'keep' instead of 'remove' for unneeded/unmaintained pkgs, how can I accomplish that same task another way?
[06:26] <baizon> darkdowN: try sudo apt-get autoremove or sudo apt-get autoclean
[06:26] <fleishters> what's the different between autoremove & autoclean
[06:26] <darkdowN> no dice
[06:27] <baizon> fleishters: http://askubuntu.com/questions/3167/what-is-difference-between-the-options-autoclean-autoremove-and-clean
[06:27] <baizon> darkdowN: hit clean :)
[06:28] <darkdowN> baizon: ?
[06:28] <Jak_Atackka> I'm having a new problem. My network connection is dropping every five seconds
[06:28] <GoldStandard> auronandace yes
[06:28] <Areckx> I think I fixed my xorg problem, I updated my intel graphics drivers with the intel sources for lucid
[06:28] <darkdowN> anyways, i read all these articles about how one should _never_ use apt-get
[06:28] <darkdowN> :)
[06:28] <auronandace> GoldStandard: then why do you want to ignore them?
[06:29] <baizon> well i only use apt-get
[06:29] <Areckx> I found from the beginning of this page :: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1879121
[06:29] <GoldStandard> auronandace awhile back libcupsys2 was renamed to libcups2 and the packages i need to install think that libcupsys2 isn't installed when it is, it has just been renamed as libcups2
[06:29] <GoldStandard> sorry about the lack of punctuation there
[06:30] <auronandace> GoldStandard: are you mixing multiple repos?
[06:30] <Areckx> Ubuntu docs always uses apt-get in the official documentation...
[06:30] <Areckx> I trust official ubuntu
[06:30] <GoldStandard> auronandane nope
[06:30] <GoldStandard> *auronandace
[06:30] <auronandace> GoldStandard: can you pastebin your sources.list file
[06:30] <GoldStandard> i only have one non-default repo
[06:30] <GoldStandard> to save you some time
[06:30] <Areckx> my linux headers were already up to date, I just did the intel sources part and added the key, uupdate/upgrade
[06:31] <auronandace> GoldStandard: still like to see it please
[06:31] <darkdowN> apt-get is fine if you don't mind orphaned/abandoned packages
[06:31] <Areckx> thank you, patience and persistence!!!
[06:31] <GoldStandard> auronandace: http://mambo.kuhp.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~takushi/ubuntu
[06:31] <jarco> Hello, is it a known bug that the global menu bar integration in firefox (installed by default) makes firefox crash in unity? It also makes it crash when starting the hud.
[06:31] <Areckx> dark3n|off::  that has nothing to do with apt-get... that's your sources.list
[06:31] <Jak_Atackka> Okay, this is ridiculous. My network connection works for 5 seconds, then dies for 5 seconds
[06:31] <baizon> darkdowN: ubuntu-tweak clears them :)
[06:31] <auronandace> GoldStandard: 403
[06:32] <GoldStandard> auronandace when accessing through a browser, yes.
[06:32] <auronandace> GoldStandard: can you put it in a pastebin site please
[06:32] <Areckx> errr darkdowN
[06:32] <Areckx> dark3n|off::  sorry >_<
[06:32] <brous_000> i seem to have messed up on my booting from my usb........ please help
[06:32] <Areckx> anyway!!! now it's finally time to relax and watch my movie! I'm looknng for the Japanese dub of Top Gun, good night everyone!
[06:33] <GoldStandard> auroandace http://pastebin.com/Dafs3Syw
[06:33] <auronandace> GoldStandard: and whats in the repo?
[06:34] <GoldStandard> auroandace libcnbj-2.6 bjfilter-2.6 pstocanonbj , all three i need for my printer
[06:34] <GoldStandard> auroandace documentation here: http://mambo.kuhp.kyoto-u.ac.jp/~takushi/#canon
[06:34] <auronandace> GoldStandard: there is the source of your problem
[06:34] <GoldStandard> what?
[06:34] <brous_000> i downloaded ubuntu 12.04 lts on my usb. i started up and installed it perfectly fine. i had to restart my computer because it was acting up and when i re-boot it booted up as a freshly installed ubuntu. what did i do wrong and can i get my files/downloads back?!!?
[06:35] <ramesh> untu
[06:35] <GoldStandard> auroandace^
[06:35] <ramesh> hello
[06:35] <brous_000> and also, how can i avoid this in the future
[06:35] <ramesh> I need some help with ubuntu
[06:35] <auronandace> GoldStandard: what you got in the repo is conflicting with whats in the precise repos
[06:35] <GoldStandard> ramesh state your question please :)
[06:35] <GoldStandard> auroandace i know
[06:35] <GoldStandard> auroandace that's why i need to know the command for ignoring dependencies
[06:35] <ramesh> i have hdmi tv that I am using as a monitor and usb bose speakers
[06:36] <ramesh> I can get audio from the tv but not from the bose speakers
[06:36] <auronandace> GoldStandard: how is the software going to work without the dependencies?
[06:36] <ramesh> i do not see bose output in sound settings
[06:36] <ramesh> i do see bose throught lsusb
[06:37] <ramesh> *through lsusb
[06:37] <GoldStandard> auroandace good point.  is there any way you think i can download the files to my desktop.  I know how to unpack them and change the name of the dependency.
[06:37] <GoldStandard> *question mark after the second sentence
[06:37] <auronandace> GoldStandard: thats the reason i asked you if you knew what a dependency was
[06:38] <GoldStandard> auroandace i know, i just spaced that the packages would have to reference libcups2 after they are installed.
[06:39] <darkdowN> so no other ideas on how to get rid of 11.10 packages that i accidentally kept? (removal with a cmd..)
[06:40] <ramesh> anyone? I need help
[06:41] <timfrost> !awsk | ramesh
[06:41] <ramesh> ah thanks
[06:41] <timfrost> !ask  | ramesh
[06:42] <ramesh> i have usb bose speakers and hdmi connection to my tv. I cannot figure out to get audio from the bose speakers.
[06:45] <ramesh> how to switch to usb audio in presence of hdmi connection?
[06:47] <ramesh> how to switch to usb audio in presence of hdmi connection? No such option in sound settings
[06:49] <notwo> aloha :D
[06:49] <ramesh> how to switch to usb audio in presence of hdmi connection? No such option in sound settings
[06:52] <darkdowN> in unrelated questions, how easy is a Ubuntu -> XUbuntu "upgrade"?  (slow computer here)
[06:52] <darkdowN> or is a reinstall the best option?  (to save HD space, etc.)
[06:54] <ramesh> darkdown: i think if you download the image and do upgrade, shouldn't be that bad
[06:54] <dobblego> is there some way to install ubuntu without unity — it's completely unusable and I cannot even get a terminal up to destroy it?
[06:55] <ramesh> how to switch to usb audio in presence of hdmi connection? No such option in sound settings
[06:57] <joel135> dobblego, you could install the server version to get only text mode by default
[06:58] <jarco> dobblego, Yeah there are lots of ways, You could try other DE also. Xubuntu with xfce, kubuntu with kde, and many more
[06:58] <jalexandru> dobblego: using alt+ctrl+F2 can't help?
[06:58] <joel135> dobblego, or you could install lubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu
[06:58] <ramesh> how to switch to usb audio in presence of hdmi connection? No such option in sound settings
[06:58] <jarco> lubuntu of course :) How could i forget lxde :)
[06:58] <timfrost> !patience | ramesh
[06:59] <wilee-nilee> darkdowN, Has all the packages fro xubntu to load an easy addition, and if you want you can remove ubuntu at the same time, but read the warning. Additionally if you do this you may loose some 3rd party installs so know what they are.  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu
[06:59] <ispitik> hello testing
[06:59] <jarco> test worked :)
[06:59] <ramesh> thanks guys but I've been scouring the forums since yesterday
[06:59] <ispitik> thankyou
[06:59] <ispitik> set beep_msg_level MSGS NOTICES DCC DCCMSGS HILIGHT
[06:59] <ispitik> oopsie
[07:00] <ispitik> hahah
[07:00] <InstantKrimson> darkdowN: you could just "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop"
[07:00] <darkdowN> InstantKrimson: Oh!  That sounds good :)
[07:01] <ramesh> why doesn't aplay -l show my usb sound card while lsusb shows?
[07:01] <DANIEL> » .•·[[D]iosa]·•. shh
[07:02] <[[D]iosa]> *°¤[DANIEL]¤°* shhhhh
[07:03] <InstantKrimson> darkdowN:  And after you installed it you get to choose which environment you'll boot to. Once your satisfied with Xubuntu you can run "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" to remove "regular" ubuntu if you need to conserve space
[07:04] <dragon_> i kinda gotta stupid question, but im somwat new to ubuntu..... when it come to tha task manager wat setting gives tha highest priority..... -10, -5, 0, 5, 10  ?  ??  ?
[07:04] <lucho> Hi,  do you recommend a "howto" to install grub2?
[07:04] <darkdowN> InstantKrimson: you mean aptitude remove? (you wrote install)
[07:05] <InstantKrimson> darkdowN: Of course, my bad! >:o
[07:05] <lucho> I'm looking for a complete guide to install grub :)
[07:05] <brous_000> I'm installing ubuntu from a liveCD (actually the iso is on a usb but same thing) and i clicked the "install ubuntu 12.04 LTS" icon on the desktop. Now, I'm at the part where it says "Allocate drive space by dragging the divider below:" I don't understand what I am allocating and why I can't use the whole drive (309GB). Please help me)
[07:08] <iceroot> !grub2 | lucho
[07:08] <L3top> brous_000: it sounds like there is already an OS on the drive. You should have an option to "erase and use entire driver" or something tot hat effect.
[07:09] <darkdowN> ugh, i almost feel like doing a clean from CD XUbuntu install since I can't figure out the clean way to remove those extra packages i left from 11.10 :(
[07:10] <lucho> thanks so much iceroot ubottu :)
[07:10] <darkdowN> will 12.10 ask me to remove packages that 12.04 wanted to remove?
[07:11] <brous_000> L3top: http://tinypic.com/r/bitmkl/6 these are my options. the first one is what I clicked to receive the allocation memory slider
[07:12] <goddard> who else thinks the ubuntu wiki sucks?
[07:13] <L3top> brous_000: you already have a 1204 install there. What you are trying to do is install two by selecting that option
[07:13] <L3top> erase and reinstall brous_000.
[07:14] <brous_000> L3top im booting from usb with the iso. i restarted and it had none of my files and it was like i was starting over. i just want to be able to use ubuntu and be able to restart and still have all of my files
[07:14] <L3top> wait
[07:16] <dragon_> i kinda gotta stupid question, but im kinda new to ubuntu, well it has to do with tha task manager..... wat gives tha highest priority -10, -5, 0, 5, 10   ?   ? ?   ?
[07:16] <L3top> brous_000: Can you please start over, stating your current circumstance and what you want to do with detail.
[07:16] <InstantKrimson> darkdowN: have you tried running "sudo aptitude autoclean/clean"?
[07:16] <InstantKrimson> Autoclean removes packages that can no longer be downloaded, and Clean deletes all packages from the APT cache
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> dragon_: the nice value to give maximum CPU is -20   but it will cause a tonne of stability issues
[07:17] <dragon_> ok.... well i dont have -20...... jus from -10 to 10
[07:17] <ActionParsnip> dragon_: somewhere around -15 or -10 will be ok
[07:18] <dragon_> ok.. kool... jus wounderin, tryin to play psx games on here wile my system was updatein, an wanted to give my game a hirer priority then tha updates
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> dragon_: then you can set the nice value at runtime with the nice command, or yu can renice your own processes (or other user's with sudo) using renice
[07:20] <dragon_> ok... well i dont understan anythin u jus said
[07:20] <dragon_> sry
[07:20] <the_real_crimper> nice
[07:20] <dragon_> how would i do that
[07:21] <magoo_> hello does anyone know how to get perfect world descent running on ubuntu 12.04??
[07:22] <spidernik> hey all! is the 12.04.1 server out by now? :)
[07:22] <dragon_> tha only thing i could sugjest is give tha game a higher priority
[07:22] <frold> Is their a more specific webserver channel, I need help choosing OS for a server at a webhost company.... debian, ubuntu, CentOs
[07:23] <dragon_> lol....not ubuntu unless u go with a lxde version of ubunttu or tha xfce one as well
[07:24] <frold> dragon_: do you speak to me?
[07:24] <magoo_> well whats strange is i tried it on ubuntu studio 12.04 and the patcher works and everything but still missing some in game icons
[07:25] <dragon_> yes
[07:26] <DJones> frold: You could ask in #ubutu-server although that will probably suggest ubuntu, for more general help, you could try #linux (may be ##linux)
[07:29] <n1timur> Anyone running 12.10 here?
[07:29] <frold> DJones: thanks
[07:30] <Mikness> ugh, why the f doesn't 12.10 load with xchat instead of empathy
[07:30] <Mikness> pos
[07:30] <mao> Hi,I mount 5 disk, but one disk's label was changed event mounted, but i did noting...
[07:30] <mao> Hi,I mount 5 disk, but one disk's label was changed even mounted, but i did noting...
[07:31] <DJones> n1timur: 12,10 users will most likely be in #ubuntu+1
[07:31] <n1timur> Hmm, ok
[07:32] <n1timur> Anyone here not using gnome-shell?
[07:32] <n1timur> Emphasizing on the *not*
[07:33] <notwo> i installed a driver for my graphic card but it finished without asking a restart, do I need to do it manually or I am ok?
[07:35] <brous_000> notwo: i would do it anyway. but that's just me. what's a restart gonna hurt?
[07:35] <ispitik> exit
[07:35] <ispitik> oops
[07:37] <Mikness> Installing 12.04 on USB. during update, run into errors stating I don't have enough space
[07:37] <Mikness> anyone have any ideas?
[07:37] <n1timur> Depends
[07:37] <Mikness> on?
[07:37] <n1timur> Did you install propreitry drivers?
[07:38] <n1timur> As in did Ubuntu prompt you to install the drivers?
[07:38] <n1timur> Or did you install 3rd party drivers?
[07:38] <n1timur> Also, do you have a dual graphic card machine?
[07:39] <Mikness> Used startup disk creator to install onto USB. no other drivers installed when I update.
[07:39] <Mikness> only using 1 graphics card
[07:41] <radslav> czesc
[07:41] <notwo> nltimur  , well, I installed the drivers that driver installer suggested me
[07:41] <radslav> hello
[07:41] <notwo> that I downloaded from the software center
[07:42] <radslav> kto z polski???
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> Mikness: how much space do you have and how much space did you set for persistance?
[07:42] <W4sp> !pl | radslav
[07:42] <Treaver> Hey everyone, can you please help me real fast. I added some mouse themes to usr/share/icons and they appear in Advanced Settings for Gnome-tweak-tool but I still have the regular mouse. Can you tell me how I can permentantly set the mouse I chose as default
[07:42] <Mikness> AP: the USBs are 8G and 16G. Same problem for both
[07:42] <radslav> ja z polki
[07:43] <W4sp> !cz | radslav
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> Mikness: but how much did you set for persistance, the size is irrelevant if you set zero persistance
[07:44] <InstantKrimson> !se
[07:45] <deitarion> Anyone know a good repo I could add to get git 1.7.10 or newer on Precise? I'd really like to get that [include] section so ~/.profile_repo/home/.gitconfig doesn't have to stay in a partially-committed state to keep my SMTP password and GitHub secret private.
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> !ppa | deitarion
[07:45] <Mikness> I guess I don't know what 'persistance' is, then
[07:46] <Mikness> is that set in the sdc program?
[07:46] <deitarion> ActionParsnip: Obviously. I'm asking whether anyone can suggest a repo (not necessarily a Launchpad PPA) that they'd recommend which contains git 1.7.10+.
[07:46] <Jak_Atackka> Yay, new problem
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> Mikness: you set it when you make the USB, it part of unetbootin
[07:47] <giovanni_> ciao
[07:47] <ActionParsnip> deitarion: the link has a search that may help you find a ppa
[07:47] <Jak_Atackka> Apparently my partition table is incorrect/corrupt. How would I go about regenerating this?
[07:47] <giovanni_> c'è nessuno?
[07:47] <Treaver> Can anyone help?
[07:47] <giovanni_> yes
[07:47] <giovanni_> what is the problem?
[07:48] <Treaver> Giovanni how do I set a cursor icon theme I added to usr/share/icons as the default theme.
[07:48] <giovanni_> hi
[07:48] <giovanni_> i'm italian
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> !it
[07:48] <Treaver> Because I have it changed in gnome-tweak-tool. But the original mouse is here and it switches
[07:48] <ActionParsnip> Treaver: have you logged off and on since changing it?
[07:48] <deitarion> ActionParsnip: I'm aware of that page. I'm asking for more than just a blind search and I was hoping for something more personal than Googling to see if any trusted sites like WebUpd8 had git 1.7.10 in their PPAs.
[07:48] <giovanni_> i can only try to translate to english
[07:49] <giovanni_> do you use ubuntu 12.04?
[07:49] <Treaver> Yes I do
[07:49] <Treaver> Yes I have
[07:49] <gyre007> why is the damn Ubuntu appending "default domain" when I run hostname -f
[07:50] <gyre007> can I change it somewhere ??
[07:50] <giovanni_> wait just a second
[07:50] <giovanni_> sudo mkdir /usr/share/icons/default
[07:50] <ActionParsnip> deitarion: then why not use that, you have a source..
[07:50] <giovanni_> sudo gedit /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme
[07:51] <W4sp> gyre007: Do yo have the -s switch?
[07:51] <deitarion> ActionParsnip: It's not always reliable and sometimes takes a while to verify trustworthiness satisfactorily.
[07:51] <gyre007> W4sp, on which command or what r u talking about ?
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> deitarion: the only trustworthy source are the official repos, anything else is questionable
[07:51] <W4sp> gyre007: hostname
[07:51] <giovanni_> traver?
[07:52] <ActionParsnip> deitarion: if the system is a VM then make a snapshot and test
[07:52] <gyre007> im setting Ubuntu against a Chef server...and chef-client is always calling hostname -f
[07:52] <giovanni_> in this file you have to write it:
[07:52] <giovanni_> [Icon Theme]
[07:52] <giovanni_> Inherits=tema_cursore
[07:52] <gyre007> and that's appending for whatever reason "defaultdomain" bit to it
[07:52] <Mikness> I've been using the startup disk creator gui. didn't see any option for persistence. Is unetbootin part of that program? A different program?
[07:52] <MacroMan> I'm running a cron like so: 44 08 * * * /var/www/test/shell/daily.sh &> /var/www/test/var/log/daily.log
[07:53] <giovanni_> tema_cursore: is the name of you theme. you have to select the name of the theme in gnome-tweak-tool
[07:53] <deitarion> ActionParsnip: Nope. It's my main machine. I use this 95% of the time (and my OpenPandora in the car the other 4.9% of the time).
[07:53] <MacroMan> Although the cron runs fine, it discards the stdout and stderr
[07:53] <giovanni_> logoff and login
[07:53] <giovanni_> now you have your theme
[07:54] <giovanni_> c'è qualche italiano qui?
[07:56] <DJones> giovanni_: Its #ubuntu-it if you want support in italian
[07:56] <gyre007> damn /etc/hosts file...arrrrrrgh
[07:56] <giovanni_> no no
[07:56] <giovanni_> i don't need support
[07:57] <giovanni_> but this is my first time in IRC chat and i don't now how it works
[07:57] <ActionParsnip> deitarion: or run a full backup and go for it, or duplicate the system and test
[07:57] <darkdowN> yeah, i tried autoclean/autoremove/purge, everything, it doesn't know about the orphaned/removed/unsupported pkgs for 12.04 :(
[07:57] <darkdowN> thx tho for the advice instant/etc
[07:58] <deitarion> ActionParsnip: The system has too much on it for a "runnable" full backup. Most of it is manually backed up on DVD+R with only the frequently-changing 5-15GiB of the total 2.5TB getting automatic, incremental backups.
[07:58] <CookieM_> http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/irctutorial.html
[07:59] <giovanni_> thanks
[07:59] <deitarion> Same issue prevents duplicating it. All the rest of the machines in the house combined (mine and family) barely fit the data on this one.
[07:59] <W4sp> gyre007: 'hostname-f' is designed to show the fully qualified domain name. You can change /etc/hosts but that can have undesired consequences.
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> deitarion: could ask in #git
[08:02] <deitarion> ActionParsnip: Good idea. I keep forgetting that *buntu is so popular that I'm likely to get an answer.
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> deitarion: oh definately, but asking in the channel for the actual thing is also good :)
[08:04] <pranjal710> hey, I am trying to install mooshak but when I do  "a2enmod suexec", I get an error "ERROR: Config file suexec.conf not properly enabled: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/suexec.conf is a real file, not touching it". Can someone help?
[08:06] <Treaver> Help, when I run sudo apt-get update I get stuck on Waiting for Headers...
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> Treaver: is it on a ppa, or an official repo?
[08:06] <Treaver> I have added ppas
[08:06] <Treaver> using terminal
[08:07] <Flannel> pranjal710: things in mods-enabled should be symlinks (to things in mods-available), a2enmod (and a2dismod) add/remove those symlinks.  It's complaining because theres a real file in mods-enabled and its trying to create a symlink of the same name.
[08:07] <Flannel> pranjal710: So, somewhere along the lines, something got set up incorrectly with suexec.conf
[08:07] <k1l> Treaver: wait some time. seems like a server has a slow response
[08:08] <Giothebest> i think like k1l
[08:08] <Treaver> I've been waiting 27 minutes on this one update
[08:10] <Giothebest> mmm
[08:10] <Giothebest> Ctr+c
[08:10] <Giothebest> and try tu update this evening
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> Treaver: can you pastebin the output of: lsb_release -a; sudo apt-get update
[08:12] <gyre007> W4sp, whatever it is desgined for...chef-client is calling it every time I run it
[08:13] <Treaver> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1162257/
[08:14] <pranjal710> Flannel, Thanks
[08:14] <pranjal710> Has anyone used mooshak? I am facing a problem in its installation.
[08:15] <Giothebest> the first problem is a ppa of lauchpad
[08:15] <Giothebest> that doesn't exists
[08:15] <zetheroo> Is there a solution for the managing and backup up of photos in Ubnutu? I know of Shotwell, but this does not appear to have a built-in backup solution ...
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Treaver: I suggest you check your PPAs. Not all of them supprt Precise
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> !backup | zetheroo
[08:16] <heisenmink> zetheroo: I use dropbox.
[08:16] <zetheroo> heisenmink: I don't want to backup to online storage ...
[08:17] <zetheroo> I am looking for a no-nonsense backup solution for photos specifically that is built into a photo manager
[08:17] <Joe1> how can i install vmware
[08:18] <heisenmink> zetheroo: do you want to back up to an external disk?
[08:18] <zetheroo> heisenmink: yes
[08:18] <zetheroo> heisenmink: or perhaps even a external file server
[08:19] <kroonrs> Joe1: Player, Workstation, or Server? See links from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[08:20] <heisenmink> zetheroo: I'd set up an rsync script with cron, otherwise there's the build in ubuntu backup setting which I haven't tried
[08:20] <deitarion> ActionParsnip: It was a good idea in theory, but in practice, the only response I got on #git seems to have trouble understanding why building from source and effectively becoming my own package maintainer isn't a desirable situation.
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: do the photo managers have addons, like backups?
[08:20] <zetheroo> heisenmink: ok, I am just having a look at the built-in solution now
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> deitarion: yes, especially in a package based OS
[08:21] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: I am trying to find that out for Shotwell
[08:21] <neuro_sys> Is there an apt-* command to clean any kind of cache?
[08:21] <neuro_sys> Trying to make space.
[08:22] <heisenmink> neuro_sys: apt-get autoremove, apt-get autoclean
[08:22] <neuro_sys> heisenmink: thanks
[08:22] <heisenmink> neuro_sys: also apt-get clean
[08:23] <deitarion> ActionParsnip: I think the guy's on OSX. It makes sense he wouldn't understand package management.
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> deitarion: or anything generally technical ;)
[08:28] <zetheroo> where is the documentation for the Backup solution that comes with Ubuntu 12.04?
[08:28] <deitarion> ActionParsnip: Yeah. I'm currently explaining to him why "package repository" has nothing to do with revision control and how their use of the term "repository" predates git by close to a decade.
[08:30] <ganster> hi
[08:30] <yuka> anybody knows if its possible to make ln -s on /bin/wkhtmltopdf to run the binary in different location using php script
[08:32] <ActionParsnip> yuka: have you also asked in #php ?
[08:32] <yuka> i cant seem to join that channel
[08:32] <yuka> it says you must be invited
[08:32] <trapni> hey, does anyone know, whether or not the unattended-upgrades package also causes your machine to auto-reboot ?
[08:34] <ActionParsnip> yuka: just means you need to be identified and registered
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[08:34] <FloodBot1> BitchOwned: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[08:35] <FloodBot1> MrWubbles: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[08:36] <darkdowN> oops still connected, sleepytime!
[08:37] <Joe1> i need help installing vmware
[08:37] <shookees> hey, anyone uses LightRead?
[08:38] <Joe1> i have the file vmware-workstation-full-8.0.3-703057.x86_64.bundle and i dont know what to do with it
[08:39] <ganster> in need with tutorial of how to use    GIMP
[08:39] <ganster> in need with tutorial of how to use    GIMP
[08:39] <jarco> ganster, http://www.gimpusers.com/tutorials/
[08:41] <ganster> Thenkyu so machi jarco
[08:41] <jarco> np mrwubbles euhm ganster
[08:41] <ganster> jarco, thenkyu so machi
[08:42] <ganster> jarco, i don get u what u wrote
[08:42] <jarco> nvm
[08:42] <jarco> honest mistake :)
[08:43] <silv3r_m00n> I am able to list the shares of a remote computer using the command smbclient -L ip_address    is there some gui tool that can be used for easy browsing of resources on it ?
[08:43] <ganster> jarco, what does it mean   ''np mrwubbles euhm ganster''
[08:43] <jarco> honest mistake :)
[08:43] <jarco> nvm
[08:45] <Shadow`> is there a CLI tutorial like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBrMskaErbM&feature=fvst
[08:45] <Shadow`> oops
[08:45] <Shadow`> stupid c/p
[08:45] <Shadow`> help.ubuntu.com/community/subversion
[08:45] <khole> hey guys, I'm a long time ubuntu user. But recently I've been using a low-performing windows netbook for university. I
[08:47] <khole> I'm about to remove windows and install ubuntu, but then I wondered if Lubuntu would be a better idea. Has anyone compared the realtive performance on netbooks of Lubuntu and Ubuntu, are there down sides I should consider?
[08:47] <khole> (on a netbook)
[08:47] <Shadow`> isnt lubuntu same as ubuntu but with lxde as default DWM?
[08:47] <khole> Shadow`: pretty much. Some different software packages and settings.
[08:48] <Shadow`> thought only dwm was different =p
[08:48] <tesserakt> what is the benefit of having all programs scatter their files around the file system? why not just have a folder /programs/ in which every program creates a directory structure for its own needs?
[08:48] <Shadow`> welcome to linux tesserakt
[08:48] <DJones> khole: The lighter desktop environment may work better
[08:48] <Shadow`> want that, get source, edit, compile yourself
[08:49] <RobinJ> Guys, could use some help here. Had to go on IRC via a command line, as the Pathetic Pangolin refuses to let me login.
[08:49] <shookees> RobinJ, I don't see where's the problem to call it pathetic
[08:49] <RobinJ> If I type my password and hit enter, at the login screen, it just goes back to the login screen. Choosing another session (like Gnome or Ubuntu 2D) makes no difference.
[08:49] <tesserakt> Shadow`, I've been here for a while. Never really bothered with this, thought it was unusual first, then I assumed there must be some great pros with this. But I still don't feel convinced.. Would you care to enlighten me? :)
[08:50] <khole> RobinJ: terminal has natural language processing now. Just yell "why the !%& don't you work?" and a cool female voice will reply.
[08:50] <RobinJ> shookees, because it's been an unstable piece of crap, frankly. and this proves it once again. But that's not what I'm here for.
[08:50] <shookees> RobinJ, have you made any graphical/software differentiation?
[08:50] <RobinJ> shookees, nope.
[08:50] <RobinJ> only installed the updates
[08:51] <RobinJ> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1162314/ Xorg log, which I can't make sense of :/
[08:53] <RobinJ> oh, right. this channel's not for complicated questions
[08:54] <RobinJ> why oh why did I encrypt my home directory >.> now I can't even access it from a live cd
[08:54] <starZ> hi all, just lost several hours trying to remove this cheaty unity from my install and any time it crashes my staff.. wanted to know if there were any script that does it the right way, cause otherwise i think i rather quit ubuntu for a much serious distribution.. ??
[08:55] <stochastic> Hey, what changes are being released with 12.04.1?
[08:56] <k1l> stochastic: stability updates
[08:57] <stochastic> k1l, can you give any further specifics or major stability upgrades of note?
[08:57] <RobinJ> k1l, it can use them, clearly
[08:58] <k1l> stochastic: nope. see the release notes when its releases. but unity for example, got alot of updates patched back from the newer  unity 6 tree
[08:59] <starZ> stochastic: natty is a way better.. 12.04 is all about unity which is just useless and annoying..
[08:59] <hateball> stochastic: 12.04.1 is just a collection of the patches released from 12.04 up until now, so if you've been keeping up to date there is nothing special going on
[08:59] <hateball> stochastic: it's just a way to release new ISOs that are more up to date
[08:59] <k1l> stochastic: the 12.04.1 is like a servicepack1
[08:59] <stochastic> hateball, okay, that does explain things a bit better
[09:00] <k1l> starZ: m(
[09:00] <k1l> stochastic: dont listen to the unity-haters
[09:00]  * stochastic does hate unity (hence why classic gnome and XFCE are my desktop choices)
[09:01] <stephans> Hi, question: in ubuntu, how do you tell the screen saver not to engage when watching video on youtube?
[09:01] <k1l> stochastic: if you dont use unity anyway, why bother with goint with the 12,04?
[09:01] <stochastic> k1l, I'm about to write release notes for Ubuntu Studio 12.04.1
[09:01] <starZ> k1l: no sorry, to say it, this unity think is just a big loss of time..
[09:02] <stochastic> stephans, are you running a vanilla Ubuntu install?
[09:02] <starZ> k1l: ubuntu developper should focus on fixing problemes, not creating new ones..
[09:02] <Newb100> Hi folks, I am new to programing. What languages would I need to write a program for ubuntu & eindows that could interact with Bluetooth and wireless?
[09:02] <Eszter1> Hi all! Can anybody send me madwifi-ng? I can't acces http://svn.madwifi-project.org/madwifi/trunk/ and madwifi-project.org for days. And I couldn't install the old driver from http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/ because my kernel version.
[09:02] <stochastic> Newb100, try Python
[09:02] <k1l> starZ: stop the whining :/
[09:02] <stephans> stochastic: yes... 12.04 with unity.
[09:03] <MediaWork> hi
[09:03] <MediaWork> ive been looking for a plain "latex" install package... on my ubuntu 10.10
[09:03] <starZ> k1l: whining?? this is feedback --> user experience!!
[09:03] <Newb100> stochastic, Any other languages like C++ or java
[09:03] <MediaWork> there doesnt seem to be one as a standalone package... or am I wrong?
[09:03] <k1l> starZ: nope.
[09:04] <k1l> !eol | MediaWork
[09:04] <stochastic> Newb100, yes, those will work too, but C++ will need to compile on the individual OS that you want the end program to run on
[09:05] <stochastic> Newb100, there's lot's of languages available
[09:05] <MediaWork> k1l:  I also checked for this in my stil alive ubuntu 12 ,  and same problem
[09:05] <stochastic> Newb100,  Python is just an easy entry point
[09:05] <chamunks> anyone have a puush.me alternative for ubuntu?
[09:06] <Newb100> stochastic, which of the languages would have the highest functionalities?
[09:06] <stochastic> stephans, okay I don't believe the screensaver will be able to tell that there's a video playing through flash unless you try maximizing the video to fullscreen (maybe even then you'll be unsuccessful)
[09:06] <Newb100> stochastic, I.e. is the most versatile
[09:06] <stephans> stochastic: ok I will try that...
[09:06] <stochastic> Newb100, they're all very versatile
[09:06] <k1l> MediaWork: you need a latex-distribution-package. there is no single-latex package
[09:07] <stochastic> stephans, you could also try setting a hot corner on your screen
[09:07] <k1l> MediaWork: like texlive
[09:07] <stochastic> stephans, where when you put your mouse there the screensaver will no turn on
[09:07] <loome> cat foo | sed '/^\s*$/d' <- what's the sed command doing?
[09:08] <loome> I get that ^ stands for start of line, $ is end of line... and * is a glob that matches 'everything'. Take it from here
[09:08] <MediaWork> k1l: as I feared, not at all very nice for small laptops - the smalles package seems to take 700MB
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> loome: i'd ask in #bash too
[09:08] <MediaWork> k1l: but I should have gone with pubby linux I guess
[09:08] <stephans> stochastic: can I do this with compiz config manager?
[09:08] <llutz> loome: \s is a whitespace iirc
[09:09] <llutz> loome: so sed removes empty lines
[09:09] <stochastic> stephans, I'm not 100% positive on where this function is located in Unity, I refuse to use that desktop system for various personal preferences.  Try checking the help docs for that
[09:09] <loome> delete white space until end of line?
[09:10] <stephans> stochastic: ok thanks!
[09:10] <loome> hmm, alright. And the / after the first ' is to escape the ^, so it gets recognized as a special character, rather than '^' as a character?
[09:11] <k1l> !latex | MediaWork
[09:11] <llutz> loome: no, / is start end of a regex
[09:12] <trrrrrrr8> ciao
[09:12] <stochastic> MediaWork, I didn't catch your original question but if k1l  is pointing you toward latex, you might want to check out the WYSIWYG editor by the name of Lyx  at http://www.lyx.org  It's in the repositories
[09:13] <llutz> loome: man sed     explains it
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> loome: afaik, it looks like it deletes empty lines in a file, make a test file with different stuff in it and see what happens
[09:13] <zetheroo> not sure I get this ... in using Shotwell to organize photos ... in the program itself they are organized but not on their actual disk location. How do you get the actual files on the disk to be organized?
[09:15] <trrrrrrr8> !list
[09:15] <llutz> loome: "remove all lines with 0 to any amount of whitespaces between linestart and lineending"
[09:16] <mrjemp> hi
[09:16] <stochastic> hi mrjemp
[09:16] <trrrrrrr8> ciao
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> zetheroo: I believe when you import, you can select to import 'in place' (leaves the data where it is) or import '<something else>' which copies the data to  a central place
[09:16] <mrjemp> so cal 714 here
[09:16] <trrrrrrr8> !list
[09:17] <zetheroo> ActionParsnip: ok, I'll have a look
[09:23] <ganster> hi
[09:24] <josmala> I have problem compiling gtk:s helloworld in anjuta, as I couldn't seem to be able to add libraries to a project.
[09:25] <pie___> where does ubuntu store the encryption key for user folders so that it decrypts on login?
[09:25] <pie___> oh is that solely password based?
[09:26] <josmala> And it seems copy paste doesn't work from the error messages.
[09:28] <JadedHL> Hi.
[09:28] <stochastic> hi JadedHL
[09:28] <JadedHL> I'm running a ubuntu lamp server and I'm wanting to install ffmpeg and flvtool2.
[09:28] <JadedHL> latest version
[09:29] <JadedHL> what's the best way to install these?
[09:29] <stochastic> JadedHL, do you have a GUI attached to the lamp server?
[09:29] <stochastic> or are you running the command line?
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> JadedHL: use apt-get  aptitude
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> JadedHL: either is fine
[09:32] <JadedHL> command line only
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> JadedHL: sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> !info flvtool2
[09:32] <stochastic> JadedHL, what ActionParsnip said.
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> Jaddie: sudo apt-get install flvtool2
[09:33] <stochastic> you may need to enable the universe repositories first
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> JadedHL: ^
[09:33] <JadedHL> which version of ffmpeg will that install?
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> !info ffmpeg
[09:33] <stochastic> ActionParsnip, you'll note that your last bit of advice on flvtool2 was not seen by JadedHL as they were logged out then back in
[09:34] <JadedHL> hi, yeah I messaged the message about flvtool2
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> JadedHL: sudo apt-get install flvtool2      (thanks stochastic)
[09:34] <stochastic> JadedHL, flvtool2 is in the universe repositories so you may need to manually add those repositories first
[09:34] <JadedHL> cheers
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> JadedHL: if they are not enabled, you can uncomment the lines relating to the repos in /etc/apt/sources.list   and then run; sudo apt-get update
[09:35] <JadedHL> I've just freshly installed ubuntu 12.4 server
[09:36] <JadedHL> hmmm, so the universe repositories are listed as
[09:37] <JadedHL> deb http:/****/ubuntu/ precise universe ?
[09:37] <rax-> can anyone tell me if there's something wrong with this? http://pasteit.com/18592
[09:37] <stochastic> JadedHL you should take a read through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[09:37] <JadedHL> Do I remove the command on the deb and the deb-src ?
[09:37] <JadedHL> stochastic: ok
[09:37] <stochastic> JadedHL, you may not need to edit anything, try installing flvtools2 first
[09:38] <stochastic> if that doesn't work then troubleshoot the repositories
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> JadedHL: search the file for 'unuiverse' and uncomment the lines that have the word on the line
[09:39] <stochastic> rax- what are you trying to do???
[09:41] <rax-> stochastic: just apply updates and reboot if there's a kernel update
[09:41] <rax-> but basically mid-download of the required files (inc kernel update) the grep section kicked in and restarted the server... before it had applied anything
[09:42] <rax-> like it just jumped ahead and started the if statement before completing dist-upgrade
[09:44] <stochastic> rax-, I see no part of that where the command is given to actually apply the upgrade
[09:44] <rax-> sudo apt-get -qy dist-upgrade >> /home/autopatch/patch-notes
[09:45] <stochastic> does that not just send the output of the command to the file?
[09:45] <rax-> nah it logs the process to the file
[09:45] <rax-> it has worked before and after I think
[09:45] <rax-> but this was the first time it was left to run through a kernel upgrade
[09:45]  * stochastic is slightly rusty on bash commands
[09:46] <rax-> could be a completely random fluke failure
[09:46] <JadedHL> flvtool2 installed fine
[09:46] <stochastic> JadedHL, cool, so you've got universe enabled by default
[09:46] <JadedHL> yes
[09:46] <stochastic> :)
[09:47] <JadedHL> I'm wanting to setup my server with something along the lines of this
[09:47] <JadedHL> http://linux.justinhartman.com/FFmpeg,_FFmpeg-PHP,_Lame,_Libogg,_Libvorbis,_FLVtool2,_Mplayer,_Mencoder,_AMR_Installation
[09:48] <stochastic> rax-, sorry but I can't explain your anomaly
[09:50] <stochastic> JadedHL, why?  what is the purpose?  personal use?
[09:50] <JadedHL> I'm learning php and video encoding/editing
[09:51] <outofctrl> .quit
[09:52] <mobo> hello
[09:52] <mobo> is there any1 in there ?
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> mobo: nobody at all
[09:53] <stochastic> JadedHL, video editing through php?
[09:54] <JadedHL> yeah
[09:54] <stochastic> that's a very strange way of video editing
[09:54] <JadedHL> well more making thumbnails
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> Jaddie: can't imagemagick do that
[09:55] <researcher123> how do I knwo RAM on my PC using command line?
[09:55] <stochastic> JadedHL, you'll note that that page you linked to doesn't use those tools in combination with the other lamp tutorials
[09:55] <W4sp> researcher123: You can use free or top.
[09:55] <neuro_sys> stochastically self-evident.
[09:55] <stochastic> JadedHL, it's not even designed as a guided page for lamp setup
[09:56] <researcher123> W4sp: thanks
[09:56] <stochastic> neuro_sys, funny
[09:56] <W4sp> researcher123: very welcome
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> gbr-lds-dev-001.edfman.net
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> http://sniptools.com/vault/dynamic-thumbnailing-with-imagemagick-in-php
[09:59] <stochastic> nice trick there ActionParsnip.  Did JadedHL see it?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> stochastic: no idea
[10:01] <stochastic> anyways I'm off to bed.  g'night all
[10:05] <EnriqueC> en nu?
[10:06] <JadedHL> stochastic: ok, I'll ignore the page for now
[10:06] <JadedHL> ahh just saw the sniptools link
[10:06] <JadedHL> Reading now....
[10:18] <jrmi_> mi
[10:18] <rax-> stochastic: no worries
[10:20] <Shadow`> trying to setup svn, but tutorial says to use htpasswd2, which isnt available, and using normal htpasswd isnt working -.-
[10:23] <Auzy> Shadow`, You could always try Bazaar, or Mercurial..
[10:24] <Auzy> Not that there is anything wrong with SVN
[10:24] <Auzy> SVN can be less of a pain than distributed RCS
[10:26] <Shadow`> we're using svn and im setting up a new dev system, however, as usual, its a pain the arse
[10:27] <Debolaz> God, why do people still use SVN....
[10:27] <Auzy> ahh yes.. hence the rule of 3 for development.. It's actually not the development which takes 3x longer
[10:27] <Auzy> Whats wrong with it Debolaz.. Does the job...
[10:27]  * Debolaz needs to get around to writing that blog post about why SVN needs to be avoided.
[10:28] <amir__> hi
[10:28]  * Auzy would ask for what #1 would be.. but, its offtopic
[10:28] <boshhead> How can I get rid of these "System Problem Detected" popups that come up on my screen? They are absolutely useless to me as they do not tell me what the problem is, and they just have a button that says "Report Problem", but without knowing what information I'm reporting, I'm not going to report it...
[10:28] <Debolaz> Auzy: You would be able to make a car move forward even if it had square wheels too, so they technically "do the job", but they're far, far from ideal for the task.
[10:29] <Shadow`> really awfull comparison
[10:30] <Shadow`> we're using SVN, and have so for like a freaking decade, not my preference either, but we're using it. stop ripping on it, it indeed does the job, it keeps track of version history, which is what its suposed to do
[10:30] <Ascavasaion> Which mail client is the nicest to use?  I have used Evolution and it was nice.  Any others you could suggest?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: depends on taste
[10:30] <NimeshNeema> thunderbird
[10:30] <NimeshNeema> Ascavasaion:
[10:31] <Ascavasaion> Okay, thank you :)
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: mutt, clawsmail, thunderbird, kmail are 4 I can think of quickly. Depends how much space you have for deps to install kmail
[10:31] <Auzy> also depends on server.. Kolab for instance integrates with some servers better
[10:32] <Auzy> Exchange is better with some clients, etc
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-email-clients-available-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[10:32] <Debolaz> Shadow`: I'm not going to address the topic further in this channel.
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Ascavasaion: i use unity-mail which tells me when I have a gmail, i can then use web mail
[10:34] <Shadow`> Debolaz: why on earth would u, why on earth did you bring your personal BS into this topic to begin with
[10:34] <Shadow`> im aware of alternative version controls
[10:35] <Debolaz> Shadow`: Its quite ignorant and dumb of you to say that, but if you want to have that discussion, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:36] <Shadow`> i ask due to stupid issue in tutorial, and you come and bring in 'why are people still using SVN' dont be a freaking child dude, geesh
[10:36] <yuka> got problem with fonts on linux,.. the cambria font when i put it on bold it becomes distorted and doesent show normally its just blakc line
[10:37] <Debolaz> Shadow`: People who use namecalling really aren't in a good position to call other people childish.
[10:38] <Shadow`> what namecalling? saying your childish? bwhaha, srsly grow up man
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> yuka: do you have the bold version of the font?
[10:38] <TheAtropos1994> hey
[10:38] <Debolaz> "bwhaha"... Alright, I think that settles that debate.
[10:38] <yuka> yes i installed it
[10:39] <Shadow`> yeah its illegal to laugh, im sorry mister! you are hilarious bro
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> yuka: I suggest you check it
[10:39] <jrib> Shadow`, Debolaz: stop
[10:39] <yuka> ActionParsnip, i installed the win7 fonts, refreshed cache right now
[10:39] <yuka> can you tell me what do i need to puit into my font-family rule inside css ? do i need to name exact name of linux font?
[10:40] <savio> hey my dsl connection gives no eth0 address but i have ppp0 address
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> !adsl
[10:40] <blackshirt> savio, that was not a problem
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> savio: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[10:41] <savio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1162432/
[10:41] <savio> here is ifconfig pste
[10:41] <j`ey_w> I'm so dumb, forgotten my root password :|
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> j`ey_w: there isn't one
[10:42] <savio> ActionParsnip, ping 8.8.8.8
[10:42] <savio> PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
[10:42] <savio> ^C
[10:42] <savio> --- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
[10:42] <savio> 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 3999ms
[10:42] <FloodBot1> savio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:42] <j`ey_w> ActionParsnip: there is?
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> j`ey_w: not by default in ubuntu, nor should it be set
[10:42] <savio> ActionParsnip, but i can connect to internet but not local
[10:42] <j`ey_w> ActionParsnip: it is set
[10:43] <j`ey_w> why wouldn't root have a password?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> j`ey_w: then use your user account whom can use sudo to disable the account, then just use that which is how the OS is designed to be used
[10:43] <savio> blackshirt,
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> j`ey_w: security
[10:43] <j`ey_w> ActionParsnip: ok
[10:43] <j`ey_w> ActionParsnip: but thats irrelevant for now
[10:44] <blackshirt> yes savio
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> j`ey_w: in ubuntu the account is disabled, why did you enable it?
[10:44] <j`ey_w> I didn't
[10:44] <savio> blackshirt, what you saying
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> j`ey_w: you must have, its not teh default config in ubutnu
[10:44] <j`ey_w> ActionParsnip: *I* didn't, someone might have
[10:44] <j`ey_w> anyway, point is, what can I do?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> j`ey_w: use your user account in the admni or sudo group to use the OS
[10:45] <j`ey_w> ActionParsnip: Not helpful
[10:45] <blackshirt> savio, what you mean? You ping my nick
[10:45] <j`ey_w> I need to try change the admin account
[10:45] <j`ey_w> I mean, I need to get root back
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> j`ey_w: log off and then select one pf the other accounts, se if they can use sudo
[10:46] <j`ey_w> I can use sudo..
[10:46] <ferni> so use it
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> j`ey_w: you don't need root if you have sudo
[10:46] <j`ey_w> ..
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> j`ey_w: thats why it is disabled in ubuntu
[10:46] <savio> blackshirt, in my windows box or before installing ubuntu 12.04 i was able to get  eth0 address
[10:46] <savio> but now is not possible
[10:46] <j`ey_w> so.. you don't know how to change the root password?
[10:46] <j`ey_w> by using sudo, and not logging into root first
[10:46] <ferni> j`ey_w: sudo passwd root
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> j`ey_w: its not supoprted, advised or needed in Ubuntu
[10:46] <j`ey_w> ferni: that works?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> j`ey_w: i'll PM you
[10:47] <savio> j`ey_w, you want root account password
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> savio: i'm on it
[10:47] <j`ey_w> ferni: thanks
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> j`ey_w: check your PM
[10:47] <savio> ActionParsnip, sorry dude
[10:49] <franzmar> Hi everyone. I'm new to ubuntu and linux in general, and am currently using windows, but when I restart the computer, windows boots instead of linux, any help on making linux booting?
[10:49] <MonkeyDust> franzmar  how did you install ubuntu?
[10:50] <blackshirt> franzmar, use your livecd to reinstall grub or uppdate grub
[10:50] <savio> anyone
[10:50] <yuka> hey ActionParsnip, whatever i type in my css class for font-gamily or use url(url-to-my-font) , it uses Arial somehow .. on the end
[10:50] <yuka> instead of cambria bold
[10:50] <franzmar> I installed with a cd containing the iso i downloaded from ubuntu.com
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> franzmar  on its own partition, or wubi?
[10:51] <blackshirt> franzmar, your grub replaced by windows boot loader
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> franzmar: you can boot to the ubuntu liveCD and instate grub there
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> franzmar  keep it in the channel please
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> franzmar: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[10:52] <franzmar> hehe, sry, i'm a noob ;)
[10:53] <franzmar> kk I'll try that link
[10:53] <neuro_sys> I'm a noob.
[10:53] <blackshirt> not a problems
[10:53] <soundray> After an update, I get a black screen on boot, right after the BIOS screen. Tried reinstalling grub from live CD, no change. What would you do?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> soundray: what GPU do you use?
[10:55] <soundray> ActionParsnip: I should correct myself: I get an underline cursor in the corner. Graphics is as provided by Virtualbox. It booted fine until today.
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> soundray: oh so its a virtual system?
[10:55] <savio> anyone
[10:56] <savio> help me
[10:56] <PiaoQianBin> virtual system is unstable
[10:56] <soundray> ActionParsnip: yes
[10:56] <PiaoQianBin> what is your problem
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> soundray: why wasn't that in the initial question?
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> savio  start with a question
[10:56] <soundray> PiaoQianBin: It wasn't for the past three years
[10:56] <savio> MonkeyDust, i have pppoe connection
[10:56] <blackshirt> savio, what your big problem with adsl?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> soundray: have you tried disabling 3D accelleration and 2D accelleration, or enabling 2D accelleation and so forth?
[10:57] <savio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1162432/
[10:57] <savio> this is ifconfig paste
[10:57] <soundray> ActionParsnip: Didn't think it mattered, because it used to work. Troubleshooting is the same as for a standalone system, isn't it?
[10:57] <savio> no ethernet address MonkeyDust
[10:57] <blackshirt> sory savio, i can't follow your pastebin links
[10:57] <soundray> ActionParsnip: no, will try that
[10:57] <y3n> esmi.allalla.c o m
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> soundray: its virtualised hardware, not actual hardware, so its easier to tweak
[10:58] <savio> blackshirt, why?
[10:58] <soundray> ActionParsnip: I sense that it doesn't even get to where graphics is relevant, though. The live CD boots fine from an iso, btw
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> soundray: tried the boot option:   nomodeset
[10:58] <blackshirt> savio, i'm on s60 device
[10:59] <soundray> ActionParsnip: is that an option to the kernel?
[10:59] <savio> blackshirt, tell me what should i search for
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> soundray: yes, i'd try the graphical tweaks in the virtual settings first though
[11:00] <PiaoQianBin> soundray: What is your meaning?
[11:00] <PiaoQianBin> soundray: It wasn't for the past three years
[11:01] <blackshirt> savio, you said you can connect to internet..
[11:01] <savio> yah
[11:01] <blackshirt> exactly what you want to setup?
[11:01] <savio> i am not able to get ip address in eth0 interface
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> blackshirt: basically eth0 has no IP but ppp0 does
[11:01] <soundray> PiaoQianBin: My virtualized Ubuntu installation ran rock-solid for three years. There is no stability problem with virtualization per se.
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> soundray: have you asked in #vbox  as well?
[11:02] <savio> but my windows box provide one for eth0
[11:03] <soundray> ActionParsnip: good idea, will try if your suggestions so far don't help
[11:03] <PiaoQianBin> soundray : if you do some experiment about network you will know that virtual box has a lot of limitation.
[11:03] <TheWonderingGuru> Hello everyone
[11:03] <blackshirt> savio, has your ethm managed by network manager?
[11:03] <blackshirt> Eth0
[11:03] <PiaoQianBin> soundary : so that was why I was saying virtual box is not stable
[11:03] <savio> blackshirt, i don't think so
[11:03] <savio> i have only dsl connection entry
[11:03] <woozly> guys, how to print to dev null? errors and print of process?
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> woozly  2>/dev/null
[11:04] <woozly> perl somescript_in_background.pl
[11:04] <woozly> thanks
[11:04] <soundray> PiaoQianBin: this is not an experimental system -- it's for my day-to-day work. I use the host NAT -- never a problem.
[11:05] <TheWonderingGuru> I have been having a difficulty with my bootloader. I installed Linux Mint Debian on an external usb hard drive a couple days ago, and when I rebooted my computer the grub bootloader enters a rescue mode and won't boot up properly. Now the only way for my computer to boot up is to insert my usb and select the ubuntu studio option from the list of OS's to boot into.
[11:05] <PiaoQianBin> soundray : yeah yeah I surrender
[11:05] <rigo> why?
[11:06] <TheWonderingGuru> Does anyone know how to solve my problem?
[11:06] <soundray> PiaoQianBin: I don't doubt that there are issues like you describe, but they aren't at the source of my problem today. I just can't boot after I upgraded the kernel with apt-get.
[11:06] <rigo> i would like to ask.
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> TheWonderingGuru  this is the ubuntu channel, not debian
[11:06] <PiaoQianBin> soundray : what is your major??
[11:06] <TheWonderingGuru> No duh.
[11:07] <TheWonderingGuru> I am using ubuntu studio and now my bootloader is gone.
[11:07] <Dmitry`> :o
[11:07] <MonkeyDust> TheWonderingGuru  nor is it the mint channel
[11:07] <soundray> PiaoQianBin: medicine
[11:07] <TheWonderingGuru> I am saying that the only way to boot up is to insert the usb drive and select ubuntu from the list of distros to boot into.
[11:08] <Dmitry`> TheWonderingGuru, there is a linuxmint-debian channel in spotchat
[11:08] <TheWonderingGuru> My issue is the ubuntu studio bootloader enters rescue mode now and acts like it is not even there.
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> TheWonderingGuru  ask in #ubuntustudio
[11:08] <savio> ActionParsnip, blackshirt any search hint
[11:08] <soliloquy1> what's involved in porting a gtk theme from 3.0 -> 3.4?
[11:08] <smartboyhw> ThwWonderingGuru: I'll help you
[11:08] <rigo> i set up the xrdp everything... almost everything looks fine. if i connect via mstsc.exe i only see the gray bgnd and the big black X cursor. (pls dont blame me :))
[11:08] <savio> ActionParsnip, blackshirt just guide me what to search
[11:08] <smartboyhw> Go to #ubuntustudio, I'll will be there, TheWonderingGuru
[11:08] <TheWonderingGuru> Thanks :)
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> savio: not sure dude, if you set a static IP, is it ok?
[11:13] <rigo> i set up the xrdp everything... almost everything looks fine. if i connect via mstsc.exe i only see the gray bgnd and the big black X cursor. (pls dont blame me :))
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> rigo: please don't repeat so often
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> rigo: what do you use on the remote system once you conenct?
[11:14] <rigo> sorry. i tought i cant post.
[11:14] <rigo> i try to connect from an XP (lol, company pc) to my htpc runs xbmcbuntu
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> rigo: so you want to remotely control xbmc?
[11:15] <MonkeyDust> rigo  better ask the admin at your company for advice, it's probably a local policy
[11:16] <rigo> well. i would like to reach my htpc-s desktop. just to use it.
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> rigo: surely if you are connecting from work, you won't be able to watch movies etc...
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> rigo: use in what way?
[11:17] <linuxieus> I have a question on Xubuntu: It seems I have lost my desktop/settings. The wallpaper I had chosen is no longer displayed and my desktop background is now only blue colored, icons+text also appear vague. The upper and down menu looks like they are fine and clearly colored. When I check desktop settings I do see my selected wallpaper though... What could be the problem?
[11:17] <rigo> well only to dunno.. browse. or only to check 1-2 things on the gui of the pc. to start the wmvare. stuff like that
[11:17] <Blazemore|Work> My LDAP server is running, but "getent passwd" shows "server is unreachable" in syslog.
[11:17] <Blazemore|Work> The syntax I'm using in /etc/nslcd.conf is "uri ldaps://127.0.0.1:1636" - is that correct? it has SSL and is running on that port
[11:17] <rigo> i dont think its a local policy issue
[11:19] <Psi-Jack> rigo: It is.
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> rigo: you can start VMware VMs from command line
[11:19] <kurtwp_> does the built in back up utility have logs to review to determine the state of the back up that was just done
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> rigo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=594561
[11:19] <rigo> i know. than lets say i would like to learn it. to get familiar with linux stuff.
[11:19] <kurtwp_> I am using 12.04
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> rigo  do it at ease at your home pc
[11:21] <Psi-Jack> rigo: Yep. Have fun. At home, doing that.
[11:21] <anotheruser> Hello, I just realized that my ubuntu 10.04 LTS server was attacked with a known vulnerability of the phpmyadmin package. Why isn't such a critical thing fixed in the LTS version?
[11:21] <rigo> it will work at home? i'll try and come back tomorrow ;)
[11:21] <rigo> i dont think. but if youll have right ill tell you!
[11:21] <MonkeyDust> anotheruser  discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[11:22] <Psi-Jack> rigo: Well, install Ubuntu on your home computer, and use it, at home, on your home computer(s).
[11:22] <anotheruser> MonkeyDust, uh? how is that offtopic? It's about ubuntu
[11:22] <rigo> i use 7 on my home pc and xbmcbuntu on my htpc.
[11:23] <blackshirt> anotheruser, are you sure with pjpmyadmin?
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> anotheruser  this channel is to help people solve problems
[11:23] <anotheruser> I'm actually trying to determine if the attack succeeded or not. And i'm worried, because i look at http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/cve/2011/CVE-2011-2506.html
[11:23] <anotheruser> which seems to say that it's not fixed in 10.04
[11:24] <rigo> MonkeyDust r u sure about gthis?
[11:24] <Psi-Jack> rigo: xbmcbuntu isn't an official derivative of Ubuntu.
[11:24] <MonkeyDust> rigo  about what, exactly?
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> rigo: xbmcubuntu isn't supported here
[11:24] <blackshirt> anotheruser, i dont think phpmyadmin was good to manage your mysql database
[11:24] <rigo> that this room is for helping :P ok ok im just kiddin'!
[11:24] <anotheruser> that's not the question blackshirt
[11:25] <rigo> gotta go
[11:25] <Blazemore|Work> Anyone know why nslcd can't connect to my OpenDP LDAP server, whereas other tools like lat can?
[11:25] <PiaoQianBin> i recommand you using mysql workbench
[11:25] <Psi-Jack> PiaoQianBin: That unstable piece of garbage?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> Blazemore|Work: is there a verbose output option for when you connect?
[11:26] <Psi-Jack> Blazemore|Work: Can you ldapsearch it?
[11:26] <yuka> still cant make Cambria Bold font.. it works when using normal Cambria, but as soon as i put in the Cambria Bold, linux switched to Arial as if it didnt know. Can anybody help me please to fix this?
[11:26] <Psi-Jack> Blazemore|Work: And I would recommend this be taken to #ubuntu-server, for server-specific help. :)
[11:26] <PiaoQianBin> if mysql workbench is not statisfied you Just do it in terminal
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> yuka: I suggest you reinstall the bold font after removing it
[11:26] <PiaoQianBin> I usually do something about mysql in terminal
[11:27] <PiaoQianBin> That's enough
[11:27] <xtalmath> I am running Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, I intend to upgrade to 12.04 LTS, this should be possible through the update manager, however I see no upgrade appear. Should I wait longer, or is should the upgrade already be available?
[11:27] <yuka> ActionParsnip i will reinstall it ok, but i am 100% sure the font is ok as i copied it from linux box to windows desktop and even opened it to see its the right font
[11:28] <fry__> domanda: ho installato ubuntu 12.04 LTS con vari mount point - / e /home/ separati - però siccome ubuntu 12 non mi piace come quelli vecchi mi chiedevo.. non è che avendo fatto dei mount point separati per home e root posso cambiare sistema operativo formattando solo root? (intendendo con root la cartella radice /)
[11:29] <MonkeyDust> !it
[11:30] <fry__> pardon!
[11:30] <fry__> thx
[11:31] <Newb100> how do I get the process number in the terminal so I can kill a process
[11:31] <Blazemore|Work> ps aux
[11:31] <Blazemore|Work> ps aux | grep processname | grep -v grep
[11:31] <Blazemore|Work> (the grep -v grep is for bonus points)
[11:32] <EnriqueC> (still used to ps -elf)
[11:33] <JadedHL> hmmm
[11:33] <JadedHL> how about this guide?
[11:33] <JadedHL> https://ffmpeg.org/trac/ffmpeg/wiki/UbuntuCompilationGuide
[11:33] <JadedHL> for ffmpeg with x264 support
[11:34] <arunkumar413> hi, i just installed the latest development version of ubuntu. Let me know how to test and report bugs.
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> arunkumar413: Quantal is supported in #ubuntu+1 until release date
[11:36] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[11:37] <soundray> ActionParsnip: I've found out what it was. Are you interested?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> soundray: sure, go for it
[11:37] <BluesKaj> Hey ActionParsnip
[11:37] <n8w> hey
[11:38] <SkyNetMaster> hi, does anyone experienced problems with pkg-config and xerersc library?
[11:39] <soundray> ActionParsnip: I had two virtual controllers, one SATA for /, one IDE for /home. Since the apt-get dist-upgrade, grub started regarding the IDE-attached disk as (hd0). Now I just need to find out how to fix that, probably in virtualbox.
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> soundray: sounds like a vbox settings
[11:39] <savio> i think i don't have r8169 driver
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> soundray: or you could work out which drive is which and boot CD and instate grub to that drive
[11:40] <soundray> ActionParsnip: alas, not an exposed one. Will need to search
[11:40] <n8w> can anyone see why the if statment never evaulates to true? http://pastebin.com/wE3XjRTr
[11:41] <soundray> ActionParsnip: I'll work it out -- thanks anyway for your input.
[11:41] <pyrokinetic> hi there. just wanting to see if cfhowell is here? can't see his/her name on the userlist.
[11:43] <shlafrock> anyone successfully installed nvidia 3d support on ubuntu 12.04 Dell Vostro 3750 ( optimus )  ?
[11:43] <jrib> n8w: #bash
[11:44] <i5um41ru> hey all
[11:44] <n8w> jrib<-- ye ye already there....
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> soundray: glad the issue is progressing :)
[11:46] <BluesKaj> !optimus  |shlafrock
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> shlafrock: optimus is a pain in Linux to say the least
[11:46] <BluesKaj> !bumblebee | shlafrock
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> shlafrock  complain @ nvidia :)
[11:47] <k1l> thought bumblebee was doing quite well thees days
[11:47] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, what's happened to the infobot , not uptodate ?
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> !hybrid
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> !optimus
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> !bot
[11:48] <Lizard_> I'm in ubuntu 12.04, and I can't solve 2 problems
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> Lizard_  let's hear it
[11:49] <BluesKaj> shlafrock, install bumblebee it might help you resolve your dual gpu "confusion"
[11:49] <Lizard_> First, about gnome, sometimes when minimize a window
[11:50] <Lizard_> On restores it apears white
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> Lizard_  in one line please, don't hit enter too often
[11:51] <Lizard_> Sorry I'm on iPhone.
[11:52] <salz> how can i reinstall the  Session and Startup> Application Autostart on ubuntu
[11:54] <Lizard_> The second problem is about audio. I solved the problem with the jack conecting headphones, because the music was playing on headphone and speakers too. But when I update the sound came back to the speakers. What can i do?
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> shlafrock: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> Lizard_: are you fully updated?
[11:55] <Lizard_> Nop, y avoid to update from this last update
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> Lizard_: it may help
[11:56] <BluesKaj> that dual gpu setup on those optimus laptops is a dumb Idea ...whynot justone gpu with differnt power levels
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: exactly
[11:56] <Lizard_> Okay, then I have to expand my disc first
[11:56] <TJ-> BluesKaj: Because of the manufacturing process
[11:57] <k1l> BluesKaj: it is a temporary solution untill the can make it the better way imho
[11:57] <TJ-> BluesKaj: You can either have fast hot transistors, or slow cool ones, but its hard to have both processes on the same die. Nvidia and TMSC have been able to achieve that recently for their Tegra 3 chipset.
[11:58] <BluesKaj> TJ-, probly $$$$ tho :(
[11:58] <Lizard_> Somebody is happenning that a window come white on restore, and back to normality on resize?
[11:59] <TJ-> Blue1: No, just a very difficult process to achive for volume production, but TMSC is making progress on it
[11:59] <TJ-> oops...
[11:59] <TJ-> BluesKaj: : No, just a very difficult process to achive for volume production, but TMSC is making progress on it
[12:02] <BluesKaj> TJ-, , I've been trying to restore the battery on a laptop here , and each time i drain it and then recharge, it gains about 2% capacity ...gonna be a long grind to 100% at this rate
[12:02] <blackshirt> helli i5um41ru
[12:03] <no-n> I'm running xubuntu 12.04 and thunar keeps crashing... especially when I try to do stuff in Trash
[12:04] <no-n> I haven4't read all the crash reports so far, but a couple of them said blueman-applet
[12:04] <no-n> another weird thing is all my trash items have the padlock on the icon
[12:04] <i5um41ru> hi..
[12:05] <no-n> I also get "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken." and "something something Transport endpoint is not connected"
[12:05] <blackshirt> helli i5um41ru, are you from indonesia?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> no-n: if you run it from a terminal, is the output useful when it crashes>
[12:07] <no-n> ActionParsnip: I'll give that a try.
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> no-n: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[12:08] <no-n> ActionParsnip: precise
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> no-n: the padlock probably means they are root owned
[12:13] <blackshirt> debian installer not ship with non free firmware
[12:13] <blackshirt> You should load it by self
[12:14] <no-n> ActionParsnip: they are not according to ~/.local/share/Trash (I don't know if that's what tells whether they are or not though)
[12:14] <no-n> \but I didn't delete them as root
[12:14] <glauco29> hi guys, what software do you recommend as PostgreeSQL GUI tool?
[12:14] <no-n> ActionParsnip: trash is just disconnected now. Doesn't show up in the sidebar and the shortcut for it in the panel is just a red circle with a white bar
[12:14] <glauco29> for Ubuntu
[12:15] <blackshirt> pgadmin
[12:15] <rax-> Any help on this would be much appreciated! : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2046544
[12:16] <glauco29> ok
[12:16] <glauco29> blackshirt: what do you prefer, mysql ou postgrees?
[12:17] <blackshirt> glauco29, it's depends your need
[12:17] <glauco29> I always used mysql, I am thinking to start use postgree
[12:18] <glauco29> in which cases you recomend every one
[12:18] <glauco29> ?
[12:18] <glauco29> each one*
[12:19] <blackshirt> glauco26, for some speed reason,i would recommend mysql over postgree
[12:20] <blackshirt> i love both of them
[12:20] <thildred_wfh> hey gang, is 12.04.1 out today?
[12:20] <abdelghani> hi guys i did install the updates and restarted my machine but the switch off/on button still red and saying: restart to complete updates
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> abdelghani: run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     then reboot
[12:22] <jb____> hi boys and girls
[12:22] <blackshirt> hi
[12:22] <neuro_sys> jb____: http://i.imgur.com/iRMUv.gif
[12:23] <Niarf> hi :) ubuntu 12.04.1 is out today ? right ?
[12:23] <blackshirt> that's too late
[12:23] <glauco29> mysql is faster than pg?
[12:23] <jb____> lol
[12:23] <blackshirt> glauco29, i think yes
[12:24] <glauco29> 12.04.1 is out today?
[12:25] <thildred_wfh> glauco29, i am wondering the same thing
[12:25] <abdelghani_> ActionParsnip: done thank you
[12:25] <blackshirt> glauco29, 12.04 was released on april 2012
[12:25] <jb____> just a quick one can i use    can i use a couple of cisco cp 7912g-a on lmce
[12:25] <glauco29> I donwloaded and installed  ubuntu yesterday
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> abdelghani_: all ok now?
[12:26] <glauco29> It is looking good
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> glauco29: you will upgrade to the minor release seamlessly
[12:26] <abdelghani_> sorry sorry it's red again
[12:26] <blackshirt> glauco29, greats
[12:26] <glauco29> I was using Fedora
[12:26] <Niarf> nop 12.04.1 is the first release of precise you must use if you upgrade from lucid
[12:27] <loganrun> what is the boot load ubuntu uses? I don't see grub on my system
[12:27] <glauco29> but Ubuntu seems simpler, It is complete for me xD
[12:27] <iceroot> loganrun: grub2
[12:27] <abdelghani_> ActionParsnip: sorry man it's red again
[12:27] <glauco29> what is the diference between apt-get update and apt-get upgrade?
[12:28] <iceroot> glauco29: see "man apt-get"
[12:28] <Niarf> upgrade will update your kernel
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> abdelghani_: do you have the file /var/run/reboot-required ?
[12:28] <centrelink> glauco29: update updates the apt database, and upgrade installs package updates
[12:28] <iceroot> glauco29: update is updating the packages list, upgrade is installing new packages
[12:28] <iceroot> glauco29: there is also dist-upgrade
[12:28] <no-n> ActionParsnip: hrm. after I logged out and logged back in, nothing happened, just the desktop background... (and that's not the first time) so I sent the shutdown signal and turned the pc back on (and got a blank screen like I do because I haven't set my grub resolution properly yet), but then it took forever to log in, I thought it was maybe doing a disk check but it seemed to long, so I sent the shutdown signal again. and now that I'ved tur
[12:28] <no-n> ned it on again its logged in and thunar is behaving
[12:28] <MonkeyDust> glauco29  update syncs with the repos, upgrade well, upgrades your software
[12:28] <no-n> ActionParsnip: same problem also happened with pcmanfm
[12:29] <abdelghani_> ActionParsnip: i don't know what's that
[12:29] <no-n> ActionParsnip: so I don't think it is just thunar. anyway, I was able to empty the trash despite th padlocks... this is all seriously weird
[12:29] <glauco29> when I go update my ubuntu, I have to use both commands or just apt-get update
[12:29] <glauco29> ?
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> glauco29  no, both
[12:30] <anotheruser> update just update the list of packages
[12:30] <anotheruser> you have to use upgrade or dist-upgrade to actually do anything
[12:30] <blackshirt> glauco29 what both command you mean?
[12:30] <glauco29> update and upgrade
[12:31] <blackshirt> Glauco29, if you familiar with yum, you should not confused with apt system
[12:31] <iceroot> glauco29: you have to use "sudo apt-get update && sudpo apt-get dist-upgrade" to fetch all security updates
[12:31] <MonkeyDust> glauco29  lie i said, update is to synchronize your pc with the repos
[12:31] <blackshirt> Yum adopt apt's benefits
[12:31] <iceroot> blackshirt: ubuntu is not using yum, please dont suggest that
[12:31] <glauco29> the last time I used apt-get update, it installed updates
[12:31] <k1l> blackshirt: dont confuse the users :/
[12:31] <iceroot> glauco29: update will NEVER install something
[12:31] <kurtwp_> can someone point me to a good document on the built in back up utility in U12.04
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> !backup | kurtwp_
[12:32] <glauco29> I have used Fedora, but I am noob on yum packages and linux (I used simple commands, like yum install..)
[12:32] <iceroot> glauco29: apt-get install packagename
[12:32] <glauco29> this I know rs
[12:32] <loganrun> in my boot partition I see files bootmgr and System Volume Information, does not look like grub
[12:33] <iceroot> glauco29: and for the security updates use my dist-upgrade command i posted
[12:33] <glauco29> ok
[12:33] <glauco29> sorry to bother you
[12:33] <blackshirt> no k11, the guys was using yum before (fedora)
[12:33] <iceroot> glauco29: you are welcome
[12:33] <iceroot> blackshirt: and ubuntu dont have yum, so dont confuse him
[12:34] <loganrun> ahh looks like it has the boot folder in my root partition, found grub I think
[12:34] <blackshirt> i dont mean yum for ubuntu
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> glauco29: apt-get is pretty simple, or use software centre
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> abdelghani: its a file
[12:35] <ubuntu-studio_> Hi,
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> abdelghani: what is the output of:   file /var/run/reboot-required
[12:36] <Kartagis> hi
[12:36] <blackshirt> hi
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> hi
[12:36] <rigorm0rtis> I'm trying to work with the .ssh/authorized_keys file to allow a host with a certain key to run only certain commands. I can set it to allow only one command, how do I set it to allow two different commands?
[12:36] <ubuntu-studio_> I woluldlike install fresh copy of ubunty studio, but,  I need my old partition "home" haw to do that
[12:36] <ubuntu-studio_> ?
[12:36] <Kartagis> why doesn't samba let guest users in although I set that in smb.conf?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: try also allowing the 'nobody' user
[12:37] <blackshirt> you  should have your old homes backups
[12:38] <abdelghani> ActionParsnip: no such file or directory
[12:38] <ubuntu-studio_> It is impossible
[12:38] <ubuntu-studio_> I can get into it
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> abdelghani: hmm, strange
[12:38] <ubuntu-studio_> I cant
[12:38] <blackshirt> what you mean?
[12:39] <ubuntu-studio_> some problems with grub,
[12:39] <ubuntu-studio_> the system does not work
[12:39] <ubuntu-studio_> so I have to reinstal it
[12:39] <blackshirt> you should repair your grub
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> abdelghani: have you tried a second reboot?
[12:39] <ubuntu-studio_> I tried ,
[12:40] <ubuntu-studio_> yes.
[12:40] <ubuntu-studio_> the ubuntu starts, but I can not see graphic window
[12:40] <abdelghani> ActionParsnip:"i did it again it says:diff output, ASCII text
[12:40] <ubuntu-studio_> but some crakcs...
[12:40] <ubuntu-studio_> black And white
[12:42] <Sidewinder1> !enter
[12:42] <abdelghani> ActionParsnip:"i did it again it says:diff output, ASCII text
[12:43] <ubuntu-studio_> ok
[12:43] <Sidewinder1> :)
[12:44] <ubuntu-studio_> Again; I have to reinstall ?Ubuntu 12.04. But in the catalog "home " I have some important files.  I know it is possible do it without any deleting my files. How to do that?
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> abdelghani: then rename the file and reboot, should help
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-studio_  backup you important data first
[12:46] <watermark> I'm running gnome classic in 12.04...is there a way to pin programs to the panel?
[12:46] <smartboyhw> ubuntu-studio_: What are your problems?
[12:46] <ubuntu-studio_> but there is pass on it?
[12:46] <no-n> ActionParsnip: removing blueman /seems/ to have fixed it. (all the xubuntu crash reports mentioned blueman-applet)
[12:46] <ubuntu-studio_> I can get it now
[12:46] <smartboyhw> ubuntu-studio_: PLEASE go to #ubuntustudio now!
[12:46] <ubuntu-studio_> I cant
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> no-n: nice
[12:47] <smartboyhw> ubuntu-studio_: Why?
[12:47] <ubuntu-studio_> I go
[12:47] <ubuntu-studio_> I am on live session
[12:47] <ubuntu-studio_> sorry, my English...
[12:47] <smartboyhw> ubuntu-studio_: On live session doesn't mean that you can't join #ubuntustudio
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> ubuntu-studio_  type /join #ubuntustudio
[12:47] <smartboyhw> MonkeyDust: Yes
[12:48] <Sidewinder1> ubuntu-studio_, He means ubuntustudio channel, here. :)
[12:51] <guest1230> hey guys, i dont know if this the right channel.but i'm using ultimate edition 3.2 which is based on ubuntu 11.10. now if i upgrade from update manager will it upgrade to ubuntu 12.4 and remove all my extra programs?
[12:52] <Scunizi> no
[12:52] <guest1230> what exactly will it do?
[12:53] <Pici> !ultimate | guest1230
[12:53] <Scunizi> it will update your release from one to the next and give you newer versions of the programs that you have.
[12:54] <guest1230> Scunizi: thanks.
[12:54] <datruth> I have an script the changes my audio devices when hitting my hot key but it doesn't change the master volume control is there an automated way of doing this?
[12:55] <Scunizi> I upgraded my Dell Vostro 1400 from 11.10 to 12.04 (fresh re-install) and now I have heat issues.. searched the forums.. nothing and my google-fu didn't produce anything.. Any suggestions?
[12:55] <watermark> In gnome-fallback, is there any way to pin a program to the panel?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> datruth: add it in the script
[12:58] <datruth> ActionParsnip: what would be the commands I need to change it over?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: what GOU does it use
[12:58] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: GOU?
[12:59] <e66> How can I set default gateway permanently in my Ubunut 12.04?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> datruth: amixer set Master 100
[13:00] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: You talking about the graphics?  Nvidia
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: GPU, sorry
[13:00] <jrib> aou
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: do you use a switchable GPU (with intel GPU too)?
[13:00] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: AH.. nvidia 8400 or 8600 can't remember.
[13:00] <datruth> ActionParsnip: by doing that this will change the volume control over when I switch audio devices?
[13:01] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: it's an older mobile version .. nothing special
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: do you have nvidia-current installed?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> datruth: yes, it will act on the current sound device
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> datruth: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Alsa-sound-6.html
[13:02] <krytarik> watermark, first, I think you can still do that through the menu, i.e. right-click the respective icon, then choose "Add to Panel"; second, you can do that through the panel's "Add to Panel" menu, via (Super + ) Alt + Right-Click.
[13:02] <amr_> hello all, I want to put a label for my ubuntu partition on my external but from GParted this option is disabled ,any advice?
[13:02] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: no I don't. I just realized that. The driver appelate is giving me a choice of 4
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> amr_: is the partition unmounted before you try to label?
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Scunizi: run:  sudo apt-get install nvidia-current     and it will install
[13:03] <amr_> this is my sys partition ,am I able to unmont it now
[13:03] <datruth> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> amr_: then do it in liveCD, the partition must be unmounted
[13:03] <watermark> krytarik: right clicking just opens the app.  (Super + Alt + right click) and (Alt + right click) does the same
[13:04] <amr_> Ooh, then I will try from liveCD, thank you ,or from any other system on the lab even if it windows
[13:04] <tr1tek> whats the best way to rename multiple jpg files in a folder in terminal to 1.jpg, 2.jpg, 3.jpg ...
[13:04] <krytarik> watermark, the second mentioned way is for clicking on the panel itself. ;)
[13:05] <watermark> krytarik: that does work, thanks
[13:05] <krytarik> watermark, you're welcome. :)
[13:05] <Scunizi> ActionParsnip: will the graphics driver also effect performance issues with the wireless card?
[13:06] <darkham> hi, people, i would upgrade mesa drivers on ubuntu 10.04 to 7.7.1, the latest available in repos, to somthing new, like 7.11.2
[13:06] <darkham> how can i do it?
[13:08] <lotuspsychje> tr1tek:maybe this can help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Photos/BatchRenaming
[13:09] <amr_> Now I have on my internal win7 which boot fine when I open the pc without attach the external, then when I attach the external I got ubuntu menu, put today I installed debain on a partition on the external too, but without booting so now I can't see it in the boot menu, so any advices?
[13:10] <b00b00> ubuntu 12.04 comes with amazon services tools included in packages?
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> tr1tek: man rename or http://askubuntu.com/questions/58546/batch-rename-files
[13:11] <paulus68> is there a way that I can retrieve my IP adress and when it's changed that sent a mail with the new IP
[13:11] <Guest73228> hi guys, when i update-initramfs -u -v in ubuntu 12.04, it does not include files in /usr/local/sbin (it did that in 10.04). does anybody know where to place key scripts so they get added into the initramfs? i wrote keyscript=/usr/local/sbin/crypto-usb-key.sh into /etc/crypttab, without effect.
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> paulus68:how is that ubuntu related?
[13:13] <paulus68> lotuspsychje: Well I want to do this with ubuntu and I don't know how to retrieve my ip with Ubuntu so I think it's ubuntu related
[13:14] <arunkumar413> i friends , i want to start my own web based news analysis program. what is the best opensource solution for this
[13:15] <paulus68> lotuspsychje: problem is that my isp is changing IP on regular base and from time to time it doesn't update my dns if I can't logon to my server I have the ability to retrieve my new IP and update the dns account manually
[13:16] <uniquerockrz> arunkumar413, u mean a news website??
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> paulus68: there are many providers having dynamic ip's
[13:16] <arunkumar413> uniquerockrz, a kind of tv channel
[13:17] <uniquerockrz> arunkumar413, accessible from web?
[13:17] <paulus68> lotuspsychje: that's the reason that I have a dns account but from time to time (for whatever reason) it doesn't update my ip correctly in the dns account
[13:17] <Gnea> Hi all, my HP PSC 1310 printer won't print. I'm on 12.04 and getting a kernel message (3.2.0-27-generic): [74418.665624] Did not find alt setting 1 for intf 0, config 1 <-- why should the kernel care?
[13:17] <arunkumar413> uniquerockrz, web or on youtube
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> paulus68:you got auto dhcp on? to auto give new ip to dns?
[13:17] <Guest38678> guys, how do i change skype's preload? right now it's set to LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so but i need to change it to /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l2convert.so
[13:17] <sybrek> hi .. whats the difference between libreoffice-gtk3 and libreoffice-gnome ? or which paackage should be installed ? (12.04 unity)
[13:18] <uniquerockrz> ohh arunkumar413  drupal has everything for customizing any website to ur needs
[13:18] <arunkumar413> uniquerockrz, need some free and opensource solutions to create, manage, archive, video and programs
[13:18] <uniquerockrz> have a look at drupal arunkumar413
[13:18] <arunkumar413> uniquerockrz, not a text based. but a its like a video program
[13:19] <uniquerockrz> yes u can upload vis in drupal too
[13:19] <paulus68> lotuspsychje:I have tool that allows me to update my dns account with the new IP however from time to time it doesn't do this.
[13:19] <Gnea> Guest38678: find the file that's defining it. /etc/default/skype perhaps?
[13:19] <arunkumar413> uniquerockrz, i dont think we can edit videos, create graphics, add annotations, add music, to the videos with drupal
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> paulus68: what its called this tool?
[13:20] <uniquerockrz> arunkumar413, yes, for that u need desktop apps
[13:20] <Guest38678> Gnea: it's usr/local/bin but it's read only... how to change it?
[13:20] <uniquerockrz> there are many
[13:20] <paulus68> lotuspsychje: it's a tool which is available at dyndns.org
[13:20] <uniquerockrz> I was talking about hosting
[13:20] <Scunizi> arunkumar413: openshot, lives, kdenlive, there's a bunch out there.. you may have to use a couple to get it all done.. check out openshot first.
[13:21] <uniquerockrz> arunkumar413, u have any experience with editing?
[13:21] <paulus68> lotuspsychje: I  am helping you so how can you help me?
[13:21] <arunkumar413> uniquerockrz, not much . I think i can manage
[13:21] <uniquerockrz> +1 for openshot
[13:21] <lotuspsychje> paulus68:actually this is a networking topic...are you sure you setup your router correclty for dynamic ip?
[13:21] <Gnea> Guest38678: well that'd be where the binary is. is it a wrapper script?
[13:21] <uniquerockrz> arunkumar413, go with kdenlive, i found it simple to use
[13:22] <arunkumar413> uniquerockrz, ok. fine.
[13:22] <technodict> i have an sd card red only error can anyone help?
[13:23] <lotuspsychje> sin_tax:hi there did your ssd installed good?
[13:23] <paulus68> lotuspsychje: my settings are ok I just want to know how do I retrieve my IP though command line compaire it with the one that I had and if it's newer that a mail is sent to a mail addres to inform me of this change
[13:23] <soliloquy1> I've made an error; I was running compiz on top of XFCE; and then left in my startup applications list when I started a Gnome 3 session. Now, when I reboot my computer, I get a broken gnome 3 session with auto-login, and cannot seem to start an xfce session by logging out. What now? fallback mode tells me it's broken and has no cursor.
[13:23] <sin_tax> can anyone help me understand why my memory usage is so high when it seems that there is nothing really using any memory? http://pastebin.com/Ru2NMh1a
[13:23] <sin_tax> lotuspsychje, yes, thanks
[13:23] <technodict> i have an sd card read only error can anyone help?
[13:24] <Guest38678> Gnea: i'm not sure what that means, but it's a very small script, just mentioning a preload, and i need to change the settings for it, because my computer put v4l in a different folder than standard
[13:24] <uniquerockrz> sin_tax, check system monitor,
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> technodict:what error?
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> !ram
[13:24] <technodict> i have an sd card red only error can anyone help?
[13:24] <soundray> sin_tax: the kernel is smart about this -- rather than leaving your memory free, it will use it for caching when there's no demand from applications
[13:25] <sin_tax> uniquerockrz, is that possible using terminal? I thought it was only in the GUI
[13:25] <Kartagis> why doesn't samba let guest users in although I set that in smb.conf?
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> technodict: you still got data on it you dont wanna loose?
[13:25] <sin_tax> soundray, OK, so I have no cause for concern?
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> technodict: check mount output to see how its mounted.
[13:26] <thildred_wfh> glauco29, i stepped away for a minute, did you hear when 12.04.1 is live?
[13:26] <sin_tax> Kartagis, did you restart samba?
[13:26] <Kartagis> sin_tax: yes
[13:26] <soundray> technodict: some SD cards have hardware switches for write protection. Check if you've accidentally flipped it.
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> technodict:did you try format with gparted?
[13:26] <Guest73228> how can i automaticly include files into the initramfs in 12.04?
[13:27] <soundray> sin_tax: that's my interpretation of those numbers
[13:27] <WeThePeople> can anybody help me with youtube-dl?
[13:27] <sin_tax> thank you soundray
[13:28] <soundray> sin_tax: problems, if any, usually show up as the swap space filling up.
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: with details, maybe
[13:29] <Gnea> Guest64697: start by copying the file elsewhere (so you have a backup)
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: although, are you intending to extract the audio from the videos you download?
[13:29] <mohtadi> hi everyone, i've just got my pandaboard B1 , i've installed ubuntu 12.04 on it and then qtcreator ( from the ubuntu store & apt-get) , each time i try to create a new project or run a one, it says that it can't locate the QT version , anyone has already got this issue before please?
[13:29] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, i would likr to download a diff format vid using youtube-dl but dont know how
[13:29] <Gnea> Guest64697: then use sudo to edit it and make the necessary change
[13:29] <WeThePeople> no
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: is there anything in the man page?
[13:30] <SoobNauce> Sorry to come in here and ask more questions about unity (gnome) but would anyone happen to know offhand what the name of the battery indicator is, from Unity (gnome)?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople:  there are addons and extensions for web browsers you can use and it downloads in  different formats
[13:30] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, how do i access that ?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> SoobNauce: its enabled and disabled in the system settings app
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: addons.firefox.com etc
[13:31] <SoobNauce> ActionParsnip: the deal is I'd like to be able to invoke it from the commandline because I like the wm "awesome", and it has an indicator tray, and I'm using nm-applet with the tray, and now I'd like to get the battery indicator into that tray as well
[13:32] <SoobNauce> (not quite commandline but mod+r, equivalent to alt+f2 under gnome/unity)
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> SoobNauce: try running: gnome-power-manager
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> SoobNauce: http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/901758-how-to-awesome-wm-with-debianubuntu/
[13:34] <ganster> hi
[13:34] <SoobNauce> ...?  I...  don't seem to be able to run gnome-power-manager?  Do I need to run nautilus first?
[13:35] <technodict> @ lotuspsychje : when ever i try formatting using gparted it gives me an eoor
[13:35] <ganster> hello am run ubntu 12.04   am asking on ubuntu dictionary
[13:35] <compdoc> nautilus is installed by default
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> technodict:what error?
[13:37] <thehandler> hi,  on my hp dv6 i have both headphones and loud speakers giving out audio at the same time,  but under all-settings => sound, there is no setting for analogue headphones,  how do i rectfy this to have auto jack detection, running 12.04
[13:37] <technodict> @ lotuspsychje   error cannot format dev/sdb1
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> technodict:what sd card brand?
[13:38] <satyanash_> Hi, I want to kill avahi-daemon but it keeps reappearing. I even tried -9, it still wont just die!
[13:38] <technodict> @ lotuspsychje sandisk
[13:38] <Guest73228> how can i automaticly include files into the initramfs in 12.04?
[13:39] <technodict> @ lotuspsychje i tried using the same card on a windows pc and it works well
[13:39] <bohem> thehandler - probably you have broken connector for jack
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> technodict: what format is the sd card  fat ntfs?
[13:40] <WeThePeople> actionparsnip, if you ever want to use youtube-dl here is the command to download a diff format vid>> sudo youtube-dl --format=35 -i
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> thehandler: tried adding: options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1    to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[13:40] <technodict> @ lotuspsychje fat32
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> WeThePeople: i see, not something I use tbh, i just watch the stuff online, much easier
[13:40] <arunkumar413> uniquerockrz, how does tv in england get the video footage of obamas press conf. in US. any idea?
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> technodict: http://www.ehow.com/how_12008798_format-gparted-sd-card-read-only.html
[13:41] <satyanash_> Hi, I want to kill avahi-daemon but it keeps reappearing. I even tried -9, it still wont just die!
[13:41] <szal> arunkumar413: wrong channel
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest73228: you can remaster the ubuntu ISO and add / remove files and packages you desire
[13:41] <technodict> @ lotuspsychje ok i wil try and come back!
[13:41] <zenguy_vm>  hey .. i have a vps and and VM with a limited amount of space .. i'd like to copy a folder to a password protected file onto the vps from the Vm .. i don't have enough space to do archive it on the VM .. so how can i do that?
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> satyanash_: -9 won't make it die forever, it just makes it end ungracefully
[13:41] <codemagician> when doing a sudo apt-get -qq -y upgrade I still get a prompt box from grub.  how do I get rid of it?
[13:42] <arunkumar413> szal, yeah, i know. Its related to my previous query about an opensource solution
[13:42] <satyanash_> ActionParsnip: How do I prevent it from starting again as soon as I kill it?
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> zenguy_vm: have you ran:  sudo apt-get clean   and uninstalled old kernels?
[13:42] <jasonz> hi all can anyone help? I purchased the humble bundle from the ubuntu software store all games installed and working, but when I try to purchase a single game i get the error message ssl handshake failed
[13:42] <zenguy_vm> ActionParsnip,  yes
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> satyanash_: http://www.hitxp.com/ask-guru/2012/01/22/how-to-disable-avahi-daemon-in-ubuntu/
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> satyanash_: source: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ubuntu+avahi-daemon+disable&aq=0&oq=ubuntu+avahi-daemon+di&sugexp=chrome,mod=14&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> zenguy_vm: uninstalled unused apps?
[13:44] <zenguy_vm> ActionParsnip,  i did everything .. it was a mistake to make my VM so small .. i want to know what pipe command i could use with scp to copy the folder over to a archive on my vps
[13:44] <sduvick> Does anyone know how to fix the issue with VNC where any keypress acts as if it's being pressed with the Windows key? My screen locks when pressing l
[13:45] <zenguy_vm> ActionParsnip,  i ran ncdu multiple times to seek out files to remove
[13:45] <jasonz> hi all can anyone help? I purchased the humble bundle from the ubuntu software store all games installed and working, but when I try to purchase a single game i get the error message ssl handshake failed
[13:45] <Guest73228> ActionParsnip, i dont want to remaster the live cd. i want to add a script for finding and decrypting root via a static gpg executable in initramfs. therefore i need to include two files, the keyscript and the static gpg executable. in 10.04, this worked by jsut putting them into /usr/local/sbin. how is this done in 12.04?
[13:46] <technodict> @ lotuspsychje  i am not able to delete the fat 32 partition on the sd card
[13:46] <gartral> technodict: 1) is it mounted? 2) you DO have the write-lock OFF, right?
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Guest73228: not something I've ever done, I don't use encrypted file systems. too many headaches
[13:47] <technodict> @ gartral i have unmounted the card and yea the lock switch id off
[13:47] <gartral> technodict: is there ANYTHING on that card you want?
[13:47] <technodict> @ gartral can there be a problem with my sd card reader? no i dont want anything
[13:48] <gartral> technodict: also, please don't put an @ in front of our names, most clients won't hilight with that
[13:48] <technodict> gartral noted
[13:49] <chenli> 你好
[13:49] <chenli> 这里人吗
[13:49] <gartral> technodict: possible, but I'm suspecting a faulty SD card.. do you know which device under /dev/sdX the card is?
[13:49] <chenli> 可以用中文吗
[13:49] <Pici> !zh | chenli
[13:50] <technodict> gartral i have checked taht card on another wondows based pc and it works well.. it is mounted as /dev/sdb1
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> gartral:his sd card is sandisk, some might content windows software on it, needed to remove first
[13:51] <sduvick> /jo/quit
[13:51] <gartral> technodict: make TEN THOUSAND PERCENT SURE that the card IS INDEED under /dev/sdb with a sudo fdisk -l
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> technodict:can you wipe all data from it with windows first?
[13:51] <yashas> hii friends, ineed help with installing hadoop on ubuntu server 11.04
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> !info hadoop
[13:52] <yashas> hii friends, ineed help with installing hadoop on ubuntu server 11.04
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> !repeat | yashas
[13:52] <gartral> lotuspsychje: I'm about to pass technodict a command that will most certainly KILL anything on that card.
[13:52] <technodict> lotusphychje :  i tried using sudo nautilus . but i am not able to find my card there ?
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> gartral:cool, interesting
[13:52] <yashas> lotuspsychje: sry for repeating.
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> yashas: Natty is EOL real soon, considered an upgrade
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> technodict: you said it was mounted.. mounted where?
[13:53] <yashas> ActionParsnip: i am getting connection refused at port 22 when trying to connect to localhost
[13:53] <sileni> hello everyone
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> yashas: try:  ssh -vv username@localhost
[13:53] <sileni> I seem to write to /etc/hosts and then after reboot the changes are lost.
[13:53] <technodict> gartral the sd card should be moutned or unmounted to perform sudo fdisk -l ?
[13:53] <sileni> has anyone run into this situation? I'm working with xubuntu 11.10
[13:54] <gartral> technodict: mounted for the check
[13:54] <auronandace> !hostname | sileni
[13:54] <yashas> ActionParsnip: still refused at the last debug step
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> sileni: is the file system mounted writable (updates install etc)
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> yashas: is the service listening?
[13:55] <technodict> the sd card is inserted but i cant see in df -h
[13:55] <gartral> technodict: then unmount it with sudo umount /media/<card name> Hint: the card should come up if you hit tab where <card name> goes
[13:55] <sileni> ActionParsnip: what does htis have to do with hostname? I'm able to write to the filesystem so It is writable
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> sileni: how are you adding to the file?
[13:55] <sileni> vi
[13:55] <yashas> No
[13:55] <sileni> sudo vi /etc/hosts
[13:55] <yashas> its not listening
[13:55] <gartral> technodict: again, sudo fdisk -l
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> yashas: is it installed?
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> sileni: ok are yu trying to change your hostname, or are you adding an extra entry in /etc/hosts
[13:56] <sileni> I'm trying to add an extra entry to /etc/hosts
[13:56] <technodict> there seem to be a problem,.. i ll log back in.. thank you guys!
[13:56] <yashas> after ssh connect: needpriv 0, it showing connecting to localhost and connection refused
[13:57] <yashas> ActionParsnip: fter ssh connect: needpriv 0, it showing connecting to localhost and connection refused
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> technodict: are you sure there no write-protected folders on it from sandisk anymore?
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> yashas: what username are you trying to SSH as?
[13:58] <republic> I have a great Ubuntu Lucid Lynx. Suddenly there is only sound in Youtube(Firefox), but no sound in Totem or VLC :))
[13:58] <yashas> ActionParsnip: i directly used "ssh localhost"
[13:58] <technodict> lotusphychje : there is some other problem now.. i guess automount is stopped..
[13:58] <technodict>  i will have to restart my system
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> sileni: try:  echo "192.168.0.3     name" | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts > /dev/null       reboot to see if it stays, change the address and name as you wish
[13:58] <republic> it is all because after I updated my system
[13:58] <yashas> ActionParsnip: and i more thing i am running the server on a VM
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> yashas: what is the output of:  whoami
[13:59] <yashas> ActionParsnip: the usrname i used is hadoop
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> yashas: ok, not root which is blocked
[13:59] <OY1R> q: Sometimes when i change volume, and especially when i use the scroll wheel the Rhythmbox and totem movie player crash.
[13:59] <sileni> ActionParsnip: just curious, what is the difference between that and just writing through vi?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> yashas: if you run:  sudo apt-get install openssh-server    does it say it is already installed?
[14:00] <yashas> ActionParsnip: a sec
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> sileni: its how you can add to text files using a one shot command line, rather than messing with text editors
[14:00] <gartral> sileni: it's just faster
[14:01] <tziemann_> ?join #iptables
[14:01] <ganster> hello in need with your help am run ubntu 12.04   am asking on ubuntu dictionary
[14:02] <yashas> ActionParsnip: it is installing, i installed ubuntu server, i thought openssh is already  installed
[14:02] <ganster> hello in need with your help am run ubntu 12.04   am asking on ubuntu dictionary
[14:02] <yashas> so now i have to again make the keygen and run it
[14:02] <gartral> !repeat | ganster
[14:03] <ganster> gartral, am in need with a dictionary
[14:03] <Urick> alguem do brasil ?
[14:03] <Pici> !br | Urick
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> yashas: no its not default installed
[14:04] <sileni> ActionParsnip: found the culprit http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1896148
[14:04] <gartral> ganster: for what language?
[14:04] <sileni> ActionParsnip: it was cisco anytimeconnect that was causing this problem. Thanks for all the help!
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> sileni: np dude, glad you got the gold :D
[14:05] <ganster> gartral, english to english
[14:05] <yashas> ActionParsnip: how stupid of me, thanks alot man
[14:05] <gartral> ganster: I.. What?
[14:05] <yashas> ActionParsnip: its connected
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> yashas: yay
[14:06] <ganster> gartral,just like  oxford advanced level dictionary
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> yashas: I believe its an option at install time, must've missed it
[14:06] <ganster> gartral, or equivalent one
[14:06] <gartral> ganster: open Ubuntu Software center and search Dictionary
[14:06] <datruth> I need a script that change between my audio my hdmi my laptop and my headphon es
[14:07] <datruth> can this be done?"
[14:07] <ganster> gartral, dont u know anyone of them
[14:07] <jiffe98> so if I recall correctly, if you want to boot off of a software raid setup, the boot partition needs to be on its own partition not on raid?
[14:07] <eniac> A question guys, why is a .local domain not recommended?
[14:07] <gartral> datruth: you want a script to automatically switch outputs? based on what criteria?
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> eniac: I'd avoid it as its not very descriptive
[14:08] <gartral> ganster: it's not so much that I don't know of any, but i'm having a slight problem with understanding what, exactly, it is you're looking for..
[14:08] <DANYAL> How To Count Runnung Eggdrop In SHell? IS THERE any command?
[14:09] <technodict> lotusphychje : i tried using sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb1 but it still has write protection on it
[14:09] <ganster> bye gartral
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> DANYAL: do you mean count the processes?
[14:09] <yashas> ActionParsnip: and one more thing , i am disabling ipv6 using the file etc/sysctl.conf, #before any code?
[14:09] <L3top> DANYAL: ps aux | grep -i eggdrop | wc -l     maybe... dunno what eggdrop is
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> yashas: I use the boot option: ipv6.disable=1
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> L3top: thats the one :)
[14:10] <technodict> gartral : i triedusing sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb1 but i did not do anthing
[14:11] <lotuspsychje> technodict:did you find any folders on windows?
[14:11] <gartral> technodict: your adding to the command.
[14:11] <DANYAL> L3top It Also Count This Line :( 19123 pts/0    S+     0:00 grep -i eggdrop
[14:11] <gartral> technodict: sudo fdisk -l
[14:11] <llutz> DANYAL: pgrep eggdrop|wc -l
[14:11] <gartral> technodict: nothing more, nothing less
[14:11] <yashas> ActionParsnip: do you know any good sites where i can properly learn to install and work with hadoop..?
[14:12] <L3top> DANYAL: ps aux | grep -i eggdrop | grep -v grep | wc -l
[14:12] <technodict> no i actually formatted the  card on a windows system
[14:12] <L3top> DANYAL: check llutz solution. I believe it was designed specifically for what you are doing... though that one should work as well
[14:12] <WITRchris> anybody here have experience getting single-sign-on working with winbind or active directory?
[14:13] <DANYAL> L3top (ps x | grep -i eggdrop | grep -v grep | wc -l) This Is Fine ANyway Thanks Dude :)
[14:13] <smokejoy> is alyone familiar with the --timefmt option of inotify. I can't get it wotk. I used %H%M%S and alike as arguments but nothing works.
[14:14] <lotuspsychje> technodict:can you paste output to pastebin on the command gartral sugested you
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> DANYAL: the grep -v grep removes the last line which is the grep running :)
[14:15] <ganster> gartral,  i get an during update the dictionary
[14:15] <technodict> gartral i did sudo fdisk -l  http://pastebin.com/S1SFPvUy
[14:16] <garrettk> Being completely impatient (and mostly trying to schedule my day), does anybody know when 12.04.1 will be coming out? The calendar says it should be today at 12:00am, but a recent check with the Update Manager (10.04 LTS) shows me nothing.
[14:16] <llutz> DANYAL: shorter: pgreg -c eggdrop
[14:16] <gartral> technodict: Ok, /dev/sdb IS the 2gb SD
[14:16] <technodict> yes
[14:16] <gartral> technodict: ok, so what do you want it formatted to?
[14:16] <technodict> fast 32 the one that works in both linux and win
[14:16] <technodict> FAT*
[14:16] <yashas> ActionParsnip: when i try to edit file     / etc/sysctl.conf , read only option is enabled use ! to override, but how
[14:16] <gartral> ok
[14:17] <gartral> one moment
[14:17] <yashas> Esc+Shift+Z+Z not working
[14:17] <Furry> yashas, are you editing as root?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> yashas: sudo nano /etc/sysctl.conf     will give write access
[14:17] <Furry> you need to be for anything in /etc
[14:17] <yashas> Furry: no
[14:18] <yashas> Furry: but now i can't go bck
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> !away > MartinS-afk
[14:18] <technodict> gartral : still if i try to past any file on that sd card it dosent work
[14:18] <technodict> paste*
[14:18] <Furry> yashas, then do what ActionParsnip said: sudo nano /etc/sysctl.conf
[14:18] <ganster> gartral, see the error  http://imagebin.antiyes.com/index821.html
[14:18] <yashas> Furry: how to come out, i am stuck now
[14:19] <yashas> i can't acces terminal
[14:19] <ganster> gartral, see the error  http://imagebin.antiyes.com/index821.html
[14:19] <gartral> ganster: do not repeat yourself
[14:19] <Furry> yashas, what editor are you using
[14:19] <ganster> soorry gartral
[14:19] <yashas> Furry: vi
[14:20] <smokejoy> Is alyone familiar with the --timefmt option of inotify? I can't get it wotk. I used %H%M%S and alike as arguments but nothing works.
[14:20] <Furry> yashas, type :q
[14:20] <Furry> then enter
[14:20] <llutz> smokejoy: did you put the formatstrings in quotes?
[14:20] <gartral> technodict: ok.. ok.. this will WIPE the card, to factory/fabrication state (NOTHING, no partition, no files..)
[14:21] <yashas> Furry: nothing, still giving me add ! to override
[14:21] <technodict> ok
[14:21] <Furry> yashas, force-end the process then? I don't know what to tell you
[14:21] <yashas> Furry: done
[14:21] <smokejoy> llutz, yes, all kinds of quotes.
[14:21] <ganster> gartral, am waiting for ur recommendation
[14:22] <yashas> i got it , i just used ! at the end of :q
[14:22] <yashas> Furry: but the write operation is a fail
[14:22] <yashas> Furry: need to do this in root
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> yashas: or you could have echoed to sudo tee -a :)
[14:23] <gartral> technodict: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb1 oflags=sync bs=512b
[14:23] <gartral> technodict: MAKE SURE you have the card unmounted!
[14:23] <L3top> To others in the room do not run that command gartral put in chat
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:24] <L3top> sometimes newbs play along at home :)
[14:24] <jrib> smokejoy: well what did you try *exactly*?
[14:24] <technodict> ok ill will try and come back to you
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> L3top: nice cover
[14:24] <Furry> yano, sudo nano /etc/sysctl.conf
[14:24] <yashas> ActionParsnip: it is just repeating everything i write
[14:24] <ganster> gartral, see the error  http://imagebin.antiyes.com/index821.html
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> yashas: echo  outputs to the stdout too
[14:25] <yashas> ActionParsnip: how to stop it
[14:25] <technodict> gartral it gave an error dd: unrecognized operand `oflags=sync'
[14:25] <technodict> Try `dd --help' for more information.
[14:26] <gartral> technodict: oops
[14:26] <gartral> technodict: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb1 oflag=sync bs=512b
[14:26] <gartral> technodict: I always add an extra 's' to oflag >.>
[14:26] <technodict> )
[14:26] <dell> hello,anyone can help me install IDL 8.2 in to my PC
[14:27] <technodict> gratral : here i the output of the operation dd: writing `/dev/sdb1': No space left on device
[14:27] <technodict> 6362+0 records in
[14:27] <technodict> 6361+0 records out
[14:27] <technodict> 1667608576 bytes (1.7 GB) copied, 8.87075 s, 188 MB/s
[14:27] <smokejoy> jrib: inotifywait -mr --timefmt '%d/%m/%y %H:%M' --format '%e %T' ./inotify    Given that I have tried with all ( "  '  ` )
[14:27] <FloodBot1> technodict: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:27] <thehandler> ActionParsnip:  the option you gave  did not work here is something that did   snd-hda-intel model=dell-m4-1 enable_msi=1    possibly my issue is related to
[14:27] <thehandler> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/580233
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> thehandler: if sound comes from both speaker and headphones then the position fix is ok
[14:28] <technodict> gratral :the output  is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1162744/
[14:28] <gartral> technodict: faulty card/reader
[14:28] <gartral> technodict: wait, actually
[14:28] <cantoma> guys, any good way of deleting a folder fast? rm -rf dir/ is taking ages !!
[14:29] <gartral> technodict: ok, now pop the card and put it back in
[14:29] <thehandler> ActionParsnip:but it still did not work...
[14:29] <technodict> gratral : ok it seems i ll have to buy a new one.! anyways heartly thanks for your efforts!
[14:29] <technodict> yea?
[14:29] <yashas> ActionParsnip: how to cancel this echo sir
[14:29] <Fizzik> why is the java channel invite only?
[14:29] <smokejoy> jrib: And also:  inotifywait -mr --timefmt "%H%M%S" --format "%e%T" ./inotify
[14:29] <gartral> technodict: I might be wrong, that actally looks like expected output
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> thehandler: try changeing: positionfix=1   to    model=laptop
[14:29] <gartral> Fizzik: that's ot here, but try ##java
[14:29] <technodict> gratral : so should now be able to copy and paste files diretly on my sd card?
[14:29] <kenthree> Hello. on 12.04 wireless woks fine as long as the machine is booted with wired as well. The moment i start without the network cable plugged, wireless doesn't even show up at the top right. Is this a know issue? any suggestions...
[14:30] <gartral> technodict: after putting a new partition ontoo it.
[14:30] <gartral> onto*
[14:30] <technodict> gratral : how do i go about it?
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> kenthree:you should re-enable wireless
[14:30] <thehandler> ActionParsnip: it worked with the options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m4-1 enable_msi=1 , positionfix=1 did not.
[14:30] <gartral> technodict: Applications>System>Disk Utility.
[14:30] <ganster> gartral, help me
[14:31] <gartral> ganster: I can't, I'm sorry.
[14:31] <thehandler> ActionParsnip: tried model=laptop   but it still did not work...
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> kenthree:why you use both eth and wifi on same machine?
[14:31] <w1ldrs> hi all
[14:31] <ganster> gartral,  you better tell me before rather waiting  an air
[14:31] <yashas> ActionParsnip: how to install o simple gui to ubuntu server 11.04?
[14:31] <w1ldrs> can someone help me installing ubuntu ?
[14:32] <kenthree> lotuspsychje: I want only wifi
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> kenthree:did you try to enable wifi once?
[14:32] <kenthree> how do I re-enable wireless?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> yashas: sudo apt-get install fluxbox    is nice and light
[14:32] <yashas> ActionParsnip: thanks once again
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> w1ldrs: ask away
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> kenthree: did you ever been able to connect to wireless on ubuntu?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> yashas: if you need a desktop OS, I suggest you install a desktop OS rather than server
[14:33] <kenthree> lotuspsychje: yes wifi works correctly but only when the machine starts with eth plugged in
[14:33] <technodict> gratral : ok i just did a format operation on the sd card it says : Error creating file system: helper exited with exit code 1: cannot open /dev/sdb1: Read-only file system
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> kenthree:disable eth in the networking icon after wifi connect?
[14:34] <railsraider> i have a sphinx server and searched load is very high on that machine how can i control it?
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> railsraider: run:  top    what is using a lot of CPU?
[14:35] <railsraider> ActionParsnip:  the searched deamon
[14:35] <w1ldrs> I have problem from the begining of the instalation.....after booting from usb , I choose to install ubuntu without trying...and that's it. black screen and the mouse gets square with some mixed colours
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> technodict: you really sure your write-protect button is correctly to off right?
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> w1ldrs:older system?
[14:35] <technodict> yes i am sure
[14:35] <w1ldrs> non
[14:36] <gartral> technodict: faulty sd, that's all there is too that
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> w1lders:ati card inside?
[14:36] <w1ldrs> nvidia
[14:36] <yashas> ActionParsnip: i just want to work on hadoop cluster..?
[14:36] <lotuspsychje> w1lde
[14:36] <technodict> gartral : i tired taht card today on another windows pc system witha inbuilt card reader.. works well can it be a faulty card reader problem?
[14:37] <gartral> technodict: possibly
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> w1ldrs:i got same square mouse pointer on some systems, never been able to solve those...
[14:37] <gartral> technodict: another possibility is that your acidentally locking the card as you insert it
[14:37] <w1ldrs> lotuspsychje but it doesn't get install
[14:37] <DANYAL> how to count this process only eg (eggdrop,psybnc,znc,ircds,screen,flashpolicy demons) Not These Processes -bash (bash), ps x etc
[14:37] <lotuspsychje> technodict:if you format the sd from windows to fat32 and put back in ubuntu it should not give you errors
[14:38] <djbpython> is there anything like preview.app for ubuntu where i can take a picture of my signature via webcam and paste it into a document?
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> w1ldrs:clean install precise?
[14:38] <technodict> gratral :  my card reader slot allows me to see the lock switch all the time so taht should not be the problem..
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> DANYAL: ps -ef | egrep 'eggdrop|psybnc|znc|ircds|screen|flashpolicy' | grep -v grep | wc -l
[14:38] <w1ldrs> lotuspsychje presice ?
[14:38] <technodict> lotusphychje : ok i will try that.. ! ill be off to buy a new card reader!
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> !precise | w1ldrs
[14:39] <w1ldrs> lotuspsychje yes :)
[14:39] <gartral> technodict: is the reader a USB one?
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> technodict:wait, you got an external reader for sd cards?
[14:39] <lotuspsychje> omg
[14:39] <technodict> gratral , lotusphychje : yes
[14:39] <Remscompany> hi !
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> technodict:thats info you should tell in the first place
[14:40] <Troy^> anyone here know anything about getting the java game runescape to use opengl in ubuntu?
[14:40] <gartral> lotuspsychje: let's not rail on him
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: are you using oracle java?
[14:40] <Troy^> yea
[14:40] <technodict> lotusphychje : my bad! but does it makes a difference? i am sory i ddnt!
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: do you have 3D accelleration in the desktop?
[14:40] <Marzata> ubu 12.04 has support for 5 yrs, xubu 12.04 for 3 yrs, right? if you install ubu 12.04 and add xfce4 or lxde then what the support time will be?
[14:40] <Troy^> ActionParsnip, yes
[14:40] <gartral> technodict: try the reader itself in another comp
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> w1ldrs:not sure why your systems does that, maybe try a lower ubuntu like lubuntu just to test
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: how do you run the application?
[14:41] <DANYAL> ActionParsnip
[14:41] <technodict> gratral . i did .. on a windows system it says disk is write protected.
[14:41] <Troy^> ActionParsnip, via browser
[14:41] <DANYAL> can i pm you ActionParsnip?
[14:41] <Troy^> ActionParsnip, it is an online java mmo
[14:41] <gartral> technodict: but the sd in another reader works?
[14:41] <technodict> gratral : and on the same system the inbuilt reader works just fine
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: are there any java settings you can set?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> DANYAL: sure
[14:41] <lordievader> Good afternoon
[14:41] <Troy^> i dont know but i dont think so
[14:41] <gartral> technodict: bad reader
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: and settings in dash? or in the right click menu?
[14:42] <technodict> gartral : wun hung low..!
[14:42] <auronandace> Marzata: xfce and lxde wouldn't be maintained as long as the default ubuntu packages
[14:42] <Troy^> no ActionParsnip
[14:42] <gartral> technodict: what?
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:42] <technodict> gratral : i guess the cheap chnese reader is to be blamed.!
[14:42] <datruth> gartral: its not based on any criteria I just want something that could switch between them with a hot key
[14:43] <Marzata> auronandace: how come?
[14:43] <SoobNauce> How do I go about getting names out of the things in /proc?
[14:43] <SoobNauce> not pgrep...?
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> technodict:cardreader brand?
[14:43] <auronandace> Marzata: manpower
[14:43] <Troy^> ActionParsnip, in game there is a option to switch to opengl and i click it and it pops back out of opengl saying unable to enter that mode. but it works fine in windows but windows also has directx support as well. I'm just trying to use the OpenGL support but it seems impossible through java
[14:43] <gartral> datruth: then your hotkey IS the criteria.
[14:43] <technodict> lotusphychje : ENTER or something
[14:43] <gartral> datruth: as far as actually making it work...
[14:43] <technodict> lotusphychje : its an al in one card reader
[14:44] <roasted> hello!
[14:44] <Marzata> auronandace: what pkgs will be supported for 5 yrs then?
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: what version java does: http://java.com/en/download/testjava.jsp   say you have
[14:44] <auronandace> Marzata: whatever ships default with ubuntu
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> technodict:did you install drivers for the cardreader?
[14:44] <roasted> for dhcp server on 12.04, what am I to use? dhcp3-server? or isc-dhcp-server?
[14:44] <Marzata> auronandace: only those?
[14:45] <Gnea> roasted: they're basically the same thing
[14:45] <auronandace> Marzata: i'd expect others too but not sure what they would be
[14:45] <roasted> Gnea: that's what I thought, but I have no dhcpd.conf file in /etc/dhcp3 like I expected....
[14:45] <auronandace> Marzata: certainly not whole desktop environments though
[14:45] <technodict> lotusphychje :  i have been working with that card & reader for few months now.. it has worked fine.. i didnt require to insatll drivers
[14:45] <gartral> datruth: was it video or audio you wanted switched?
[14:45] <Troy^> ActionParsnip, java se 7
[14:46] <Gnea> roasted: which one did you install?
[14:46] <roasted> Gnea: looks like it may be isc-dhcp-server to use in 12.04. just found this in a new set of instructions - sudo nano /etc/default/isc-dhcp-server
[14:46] <hume> anyone knows how to find specific clipart in Libreoffice in Ubuntu 12.04? It seems no longer to be organized in themes...??
[14:46] <roasted> Gnea: dhcp3 and isc-dhcp-server
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: tried in a runescape channel?
[14:46] <roasted> Gnea: cancel that default idea. wrong thing.
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> !info pcsc
[14:47] <Troy^> ActionParsnip, yes
[14:47] <Gnea> roasted: it's there for me: /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf
[14:47] <Troy^> ActionParsnip, most users are windows
[14:47] <roasted> Gnea: not sure what I did then. I did dhcp work on here before with another project. I'll try a purge, perhaps.
[14:47] <Troy^> ActionParsnip, i would assume 98% probablly are.
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: try in #javasee if they can advise
[14:47] <Gnea> roasted: or just copy and modify /usr/share/doc/isc-dhcp-server/examples/dhcpd.conf
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> technodict: you mean you had this sd card working on ubuntu before?
[14:48] <gartral> datruth: if audio... try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1370383
[14:48] <roasted> Gnea: good thought, if purge fials I'll do that. thanks!
[14:48] <technodict> lotusphychje : yes ...it stopped suddenly
[14:48] <crankharder> what ports do i need to open in my firewall to allow connections to NFS?
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=847181
[14:48] <Gnea> now if only I could get this printer to print locally.... everyone can print to it via the network just fine
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: do you use an nvidia GPU?
[14:48] <Troy^> ActionParsnip, nope
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> technodict:what did you do to with the sd card? exchange stuff on windows?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/07/how-to-install-runescape-linux-game.html   tried that?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: the PPA supports Precise
[14:49] <technodict> lotusphychje : i installed many OS'es on it and formatted it frequently . for use on my raspberry pi
[14:50] <Troy^> ActionParsnip, it i get error that is all trying to run it
[14:50] <Troy^> ActionParsnip, now it wont even run
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | technodict
[14:50] <technodict> lotusphychje : i never used it on windows before this problem occured
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> technodict: try this program to test the card, and fix mbr and stuff
[14:51] <technodict> lotusphychje : installng it now
[14:52] <alo21> hi
[14:52] <yashas> how to disable ipv6
[14:52] <alo21> can someone say me how to send a package in upstream, please?
[14:52] <Troy^> ActionParsnip, i tried to remove and reinstall the unix runescape client.. i use sudo apt-get remove unix-runescape-client it appears to be done but in fact it hasn't removed anything?
[14:52] <technodict> lotusphychje : how to go about using it?
[14:53] <Gnea> is it normal for gtkpod to core dump while bringing up the preferences dialog?
[14:53] <lotuspsychje> technodict: terminal: sudo testdisk
[14:54] <technodict> lotusphychje : i still fell there is write protctio non that SD card
[14:54] <kevinlu310> Under a directory, how can I search in which subdirectory and which files a keyword appears?
[14:54] <technodict> protection
[14:54] <technodict> *
[14:55] <lotuspsychje> technodict:what does it say after analyzing it
[14:56] <auronandace> !packaging | alo21
[14:56] <technodict> lotusphychje: its going on but it did promt that disk is write protected
[14:56] <alo21> !sponsoring | alo21
[14:57] <MoTec> Ubuntu has failed me.  I'm so sad.  All I wanted was jailed sftp home directories on a windows file server via samba/cifs.
[14:57] <Gianluca> ciaoo
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> !it | GianLuca
[14:57] <technodict> lotusphychje : it says media is physically write -protected i guess it the faulty card reader after all
[14:58] <Troy^> ActionParsnip, finally got the runescape client to load fingers crossed opengl support
[14:58] <lotuspsychje> technodict: can you try change partition
[14:58] <yashas> ActionParsnip: we have to put ipv6_disable in blacklist?
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> yashas: add the boot option:  ipv6.disable=1
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> technodict: did you check on windows if there arent hidden folders on it that could prevent formatting?
[15:00] <alo21> can I send package in upstream when I fixed some bugs (non security)?
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> alo21: i suggest you report a bug with your fix
[15:01] <alo21> ActionParsnip: sorry... but I did not understand
[15:01] <jacta> Can anyone help me correct this? http://pastebin.com/sj0dpvmT :/
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> alo21: understand what?
[15:02] <Troy^> ActionParsnip, w00t opengl support
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: yay
[15:02] <alo21> ActionParsnip: I filled a bug, and fixed it too
[15:02] <MoTec> #1, Ubuntu will not mount my samba/cifs share on reboot (Bug #384347).  #2, I can't jail sftp home directories when they are on a samba/cifs share because of folder permissions - not really an ubuntu issue, I suppose.  I was so close. :(
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: plus an app in dash which you can pin to dash :)
[15:02] <Troy^> yea exactly
[15:02] <alo21> ActionParsnip: can I send the corrected package in Upstream?
[15:02] <ActionParsnip> alo21: ahh, sorry. bit slow today. The bug fixers will see your new package / files / etc and test them
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> alo21: i'd ask in #ubuntu-dev
[15:03] <alo21> ActionParsnip: thanks
[15:03] <technodict> lotusphychje : i will try using a new sd card and reader altogether.. f problem exist then what should i do?
[15:04] <MoTec> I don't understand how this mounting issue can persist since version 9.04 'till the current 12.04
[15:04] <Crash254> .
[15:04] <Crash254> .
[15:04] <Sokel> what mounting issue exactly?
[15:04] <Crash254> br
[15:05] <alo21> ActionParsnip: the channel does not exist
[15:05] <MoTec> Sokel: samba, cifs, and apparently nfs shares do not mount automatically after a reboot.  There is a _netdev directive that can be added to the appropriate line in /etc/fstab to allow the network to startup before the volume is mounted but it is not honored.
[15:05] <epinky> !developer
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> alo21: try #ubuntu-devel
[15:06] <alo21> ActionParsnip: yep... it is
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> alo21: boom!
[15:06] <alo21> ActionParsnip: thank you
[15:06] <epinky> ActionParsnip: hello, do you know something about WDS?
[15:07] <Troy^> ActionParsnip, it lags so much lol
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: try some different settings
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> epinky: ive found a million meanings for WDS, what do you mean by WDS
[15:08] <epinky> ActionParsnip: Wireless Distribution System(linux based)
[15:09] <Sokel> Why not just use autofs? At least that way, you don't need to use /etc/fstab.
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> !ics | epinky
[15:09] <Sokel> Or make things easier, and do your mounts in /etc/rc.local after everything is booted up
[15:09] <capitaninsaneoh> I'm trying to host a webserver that requires SSL on a firewall I have and I've got a few questions about IP's.  Do I have to give my server 2 IP's?  My firewall uses SAT so I would have to have one address that is internal and one that is publicly available right?
[15:09] <epinky> ActionParsnip: yeah, but I want to know if you've got some experience on it
[15:10] <MoTec> Sokel: So rc.local is processed every boot?
[15:10] <Sokel> capitaninsaneoh: Depends on where the webserver is going to be in your network. Is it going to be in the front of the line with the modem, or the in the back behind the firewall
[15:10] <auronandace> !who | Sokel
[15:10] <Sokel> Motec: It is processed every boot. I process my iptables rules that way on ym router.
[15:10] <Sokel> motec: Because I dislike using ufw.
[15:10] <MoTec> Sokel: I'll give that a shot
[15:10] <capitaninsaneoh> Sokel, was planning behind it in the DMZ
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> epinky: never botherd. I have wifi routers for that
[15:10] <Sokel> Motec: Let me know how it goes :)
[15:11] <epinky> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> epinky: uses a lot less power than a PC too :)
[15:11] <Sokel> capitaninsaneoh: Alrighty. Good luck. I'll be here if you need me. You can pm me if needed.
[15:11] <Sokel> capitaninsaneoh: I recommend doing specific rules.
[15:11] <Sokel> capitaninsaneoh: You might want to look into that first. DMZ is not the answer.
[15:12] <epinky> ActionParsnip: it was a technical i-don-t-know.why-it-doesn-t-work question, but never minds :)
[15:12] <Bernat> hi, I have an HP notebook with Ubuntu 12.04 and I've had always a problem with the fn key, it stays enabled a few seconds after released
[15:12] <capitaninsaneoh> Sokel, I'm trying to get the machine firewalled
[15:13] <Bernat> the fn is used to use some keys with alternate functions
[15:13] <capitaninsaneoh> Sokel, I'd rather that than leave it open - naked to the Internet
[15:13] <Bernat> anyone knows what the problem might be?
[15:13] <Sokel> capitaninsaneoh: And why's that exactly
[15:14] <capitaninsaneoh> Sokel, Basic segementation is a rule that most security focused folks follow
[15:14] <capitaninsaneoh> Sokel, =)
[15:14] <Sokel> capitaninsaneoh: It's not hard to setup rules for specific ports and not leaving your server wide open. That's like saying I should disable selinux because a program can't access the required files.
[15:15] <skulltip> unity 2d - how do i change it so when i have a mouse over another window, it raises up? i grow tired of having to click in another window to raise it since I can't access the titlebar of that window to raise it..
[15:15] <skulltip> when it is maximized..
[15:15] <craigbass1976> I'm trying to make a bootable usb drive, and I'm guessing it's not as simple as copying the ISO over...
[15:15] <capitaninsaneoh> Sokel, nope its not the same at all.  A firewall would add an additional layer of defense on the network.  Putting it outside ... weakens the security of your system
[15:15] <Sokel> MoteC: Make sure you chmod +x on /etc/rc.local. It'll help you out.
[15:16] <Sokel> capitaninsaneoh: DMZ means it's wide open. Good on ya, Jim.
[15:16] <capitaninsaneoh> Sokel, Doesn't in this case
[15:16] <capitaninsaneoh> Sokel, that term is nebulous
[15:16] <Sokel> Yeah. Right. lol Keep telling yourself that.
[15:16] <capitaninsaneoh> Sokel, OK.  Thanks for your "help"
[15:17] <craigbass1976> Aha... unetbootin. Am I going to be able to use this stick as regular storage after this process?
[15:18] <Sokel> Hey, you're the one who wants a DMZ and thinks it's "secure" lol.
[15:18] <capitaninsaneoh> Sokel, What is your point?  GO somewhere else if you want a debate
[15:19] <Sokel> The point is: Don't be stupid.
[15:19] <Sokel> Blocked.
[15:19] <auronandace> Sokel: dmz = demilitarised zone?
[15:19] <theadmin> auronandace: Indeed.
[15:19] <janye> http://pyongyang.news-site.net/new02/new051/tang.html
[15:19] <kantlivelong> is there a way to get nvidia 304.37 drivers on 12.04 without all of xedgers?
[15:20] <auronandace> theadmin: i've never really understood what that has to do with computers
[15:20] <theadmin> auronandace: Basically it's a setting on a router that redirects all incoming requests to your public IP, on all ports, to a specific computer on the LAN
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> kantlivelong: you can use the updates PPa rather than edgers itself
[15:21] <kantlivelong> ActionParsnip: oh.?
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> kantlivelong: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> kantlivelong: less fresh, more stable
[15:21] <kantlivelong> ActionParsnip: ah thx.. didnt realize it was in swat
[15:22] <kantlivelong> was going insane :)
[15:22] <auronandace> theadmin: oh, i was thinking of something like ground boudaries such as no-mans-land, why do they call that router setup a DMZ?
[15:22] <theadmin> auronandace: I haven't the slightest idea.
[15:22] <kantlivelong> auronandace: when switching from edgers to swat how do i ensure it uses the older packages?
[15:23] <kantlivelong> becuase the version in edgers i would imagine is higher
[15:23] <auronandace> kantlivelong: sorry, i don't use ppas
[15:23] <kantlivelong> ah np
[15:23] <kantlivelong> hopefully someone can chime in :) ty auronandace
[15:27] <eutheria> nvidia driver question, should i install the post release driver?
[15:29] <ZeroNeutron> hi why is there a delay for startup init.d for almost everything on ubuntu server
[15:33] <Troy^> ok i installed docky in xubuntu but how do i get the original panel to close
[15:33] <Troy^> beacuse atm both are open
[15:35] <mneptok> Troy^: right-click the Xubuntu panel and choose "Remove"
[15:35] <Troy^> mneptok, it asks me if i want to remove "Seperator"
[15:36] <mneptok> Troy^: that panel extends across the entire bottom of the screen. click an unused area.
[15:37] <Troy^> now the panel just moved to the left on the bottom
[15:37] <Troy^> doesn't make sense
[15:37] <Troy^> it doesnt matter wher ei click mneptok
[15:38] <mneptok> Troy^: WFM on Xubuntu 12.04. don't know what to tell you.
[15:38] <Lartza> I can't seem to install unrar or unrar-nonfree?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Lartza: sudo apt-get install rar unrar unp p7zip p7zip-rar p7zip-full unace
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Lartza: can't see you having issue with any achives with that lot :)
[15:39] <Lartza> ActionParsnip, Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> !info unrar
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> Lartza: do you have multiverse repo enabled?
[15:40] <Lartza> ActionParsnip, for precise-security at least :P
[15:40] <Lartza> do both precise and precise-updates have a multiverse?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Lartza: I'd check in /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:41] <Lartza> Yeah but
[15:41] <Lartza> I am adding multiverse
[15:41] <veryape> hello, I installed the wikipedia lens for unity and now the dash and the bar at the top won't load at all when i log in
[15:41] <veryape> anyone knows what might have gone wrong?
[15:41] <Lartza> ActionParsnip, Thanks :)
[15:41] <ki4ro> Getting Update information outdated This may be caused by a network problem or by a repository that is no longer available.  Any suggestions?
[15:42] <MoTec> Sokel: just putting mount -a in my rc.local did the trick.  I'm back on track, I think!
[15:42] <MoTec> Does NFS allow unix style permissions?  I mean, if I use a NFS share on a remote server as my users home folders can I set appropriate permissions?  I know I can't with samba/cifs
[15:44] <llutz> MoTec: youcan
[15:44] <bekks> MoTec: Depends on the NFS host. A unix host will allow it.
[15:44] <iceroot> MoTec: if i am correct samba/cifs is not the reason but the filesystem itself the file is stored
[15:44] <MoTec> It's a Windows Storage Server 2008.. I guess I experiement and find out.. :)
[15:44] <iceroot> MoTec: windows will use ntfs which cant hold posix acls
[15:45] <iceroot> MoTec: doesnt matter if you use nfs, cifs or something else
[15:46] <MoTec> NTFS is POSIX complaint.. Oh ,maybe not for ACLS, tho.
[15:46] <MoTec> just naming, links, and timestamps
[15:46] <iceroot> MoTec: yes, the acls will not mapped on ntfs
[15:47] <iceroot> MoTec: and hardlinks are also not supported if i am correct
[15:47] <MoTec> hard links are, from what i'm readying.. but acl are not
[15:47] <iceroot> MoTec: then it was fat which cant hold hardlinks
[15:47] <newbzilla> i have some noob questions
[15:48] <newbzilla> ive been breakin my back trying to get flash working on this 12.04 and i cant get it done. any help or at least where i can go to get some
[15:49] <MoTec> Well darn.. So I guess my hope of having /home on a windows server is a lost cause?
[15:49] <iceroot> newbzilla: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer   after that restart your browser (no need to use that command if you are using chrome)
[15:49] <Chat3380> Hi
[15:50] <johonunu> hi everyone! Can someone give me a tutorial for installing ubuntu on btrfs ? thanks :)
[15:50] <swinchen> exit
[15:50] <iceroot> johonunu: brtfs is not stable
[15:50] <iceroot> johonunu: if you dont know how to install a system with that then i would say you dont want it
[15:50] <auronandace> MoTec: why on earth would you put /home on ntfs?
[15:51] <johonunu> iceroot: i am using ubuntu for over 3 years, but haven't tried it ever
[15:51] <theadmin> MoTec: No, permissions will be a huge issue
[15:51] <iceroot> MoTec: 1. /home does not have POSIX ACLS by default 2. /home with nfs is a bad idea (mostly because nfs is doing a lot of locking)
[15:51] <johonunu> iceroot: and i have to write papers about it
[15:51] <MoTec> auronandace: my MAS has six TB of storage.. centralized backup.. built in redundancy..
[15:51] <auronandace> MoTec: why ntfs?
[15:52] <ikonia> johonunu: you have to write papers on something you have no idea how to install, and have no chance of managing
[15:52] <ikonia> that doesn't sound a good thing to do, especially on an unsable file system
[15:52] <MoTec> auronandace: it's a Windows Storage Server.
[15:52] <johonunu> ikonia: i would do it in virtualbox
[15:52] <ikonia> that doesn't change anything
[15:52] <auronandace> MoTec: as others have already told you /home on ntfs is a bad idea
[15:53] <MoTec> Yeah.. I read that.  I was just answering your questions
[15:53] <iceroot> MoTec: remove windows and place GNU/Linux there for a real storage system
[15:53] <MoTec> iceroot: thank you for your useless suggestion.
[15:53] <maocheia> I need to boot off an SD card (installed Fedora on it with unetbootin), but my BIOS doesn't recognize it at bootup. I'm thinking Grub might be my only way of doing this. Google shows me ways to do this with Grub 1, but not Grub 2. Anyone know how to add an option for an SD card to the Grub 2 menu?
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> MoTec  you create a separate ntfs partition, that you can share between lin and win
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> could create*
[15:53] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: ntfs is bad for /home
[15:54] <roasted> hi
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> iceroot  i don't mean /home
[15:54] <auronandace> MoTec: why not use a seperate storage partition?
[15:54] <MoTec> I will end up installing samba on the linux box and integrating it with my active directory and mapping to it from the windows clients, I guess.. I was going to be a different drive letter on the nas anyway.
[15:54] <iceroot> MonkeyDust: ah ok
[15:54] <MoTec> auronandace: i could i guess.. but i wanted it on the Windows NAS.. And I wouldn't know what other filesystem to use other than NTFS.
[15:55] <roasted> has anybody ever experienced ultra slow samba transfers before? I've used samba for years with very good success, but just now I tried to push 210MB to my 12.04 laptop and it's giving me an ETA of 2 HOURS... Happens with both OSX and Win systems when connected to my laptop. The OSX and Win systems on the other hand can connect very speedy without Linux.
[15:55] <iceroot> MoTec: on windows i guess you only can use ntfs, everything else is not stable
[15:55] <ActionParsnip> roasted: have you played with socket options?
[15:55] <roasted> ActionParsnip: I have not. I've never needed to. Things were always very fast.
[15:55] <iceroot> MoTec: but maybe the server has buildin ext drivers which are stable?
[15:56] <roasted> ActionParsnip: I thought at first it was due to my encrypted home dir, but I created a samba share on my root, which isn't encrypted, and it's the same thing there.
[15:56] <bkc_> roasted: how's the laptop connected to the network?
[15:56] <roasted> bkc_: cat5e cable in between the system. No external access.
[15:56] <ActionParsnip> roasted: try some different options, may help
[15:56] <roasted> bkc_: I'm just trying to do a massive file transfer between the two systems. Nothing more.
[15:56] <MoTec> iceroot: I think I'm just going to do it 'backwards' from what I originally wanted.. And install full samba on the ubuntu server.  And then authenticate it against my active directory.. And share the appropriate home directroies so they can be accessed from windows workstations.
[15:56] <erictr1ck> so i have a font given to me from a mac user that i have to use in gimp. i cant figure out how to install it. on the mac machine the file type is coming up as PostScript Type 1 outline font. Am I able to use this in ubuntu somehow?
[15:57] <roasted> 7KB a second for some of these folders I need to transfer is giving me quotes of DAYS to complete
[15:57] <iceroot> MoTec: samba4?
[15:57] <auronandace> MoTec: what do you put on the /home partitions that you need access to them from windows?
[15:57] <iceroot> MoTec: because samba4 can auth against AD (and also be an AD itself)
[15:58] <auronandace> MoTec: i just don't get why you can't just save a whole lot of bother and use a seperate storage partition
[15:58] <MoTec> auronandace: it's files transfered from vendors.. they were using ftp but for hipaa compliance i'm switching that to sftp.
[15:58] <MoTec> iceroot: and yeah, samba4.
[15:58] <MoTec> auronandace: seperate storage partition where?
[15:58] <iceroot> MoTec: hmmm samba4 in a production system... i dont know if that is a good idea
[15:58] <MonkeyDust> MoTec  better do that on a separate partition
[15:59] <Dr_Willis> erictr1ck: try copying it into your /home/username/.fonts directory and restart gimp
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> roasted: try: socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_KEEPALIVE SO_SNDBUF=16384 SO_RCVBUF=16384     in /etc/samba/smb.conf    there will be a line similar, just add the extra options
[15:59] <MoTec> seperate partition on the ubuntu server.. i could do that, i guess.
[15:59] <iceroot> MoTec: use a local /home and mount in /home/username/storage  the specific partition you want
[15:59] <Lartza> I am trying to create a user that can acess sftp through openssh's built in one, but not ssh in or access other folders than his homefolder
[15:59] <auronandace> MoTec: there is no hard and fast rule that says you must absolutely use /home as a storage partition
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> MoTec  that can be read by both lin and win, so ntfs
[15:59] <Lartza> Assigning the user to /bin/false seems to also make sftp not work
[16:00] <malkavian> Hi all. I use Ubuntu 12.04 and have static noise, when using microphone. May be anyone know possible solution?
[16:00] <auronandace> MonkeyDust +1
[16:00] <MoTec> auronandace: yeah, i actually had their home folders on my samba share but had permission issues.
[16:00] <iceroot> Lartza: there is a special login-shell for sftp
[16:00] <genii-around> Dr_Willis: Might need to xset fp rehash
[16:00] <auronandace> MoTec: yeah, you don't put /home on ntfs
[16:00] <iceroot> Lartza: cant remeber the name, there you can only use sftp and nothing else (maybe see man ssh)
[16:01] <erictr1ck> Dr_Willis: just copied over, the font doesnt register :(
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> erictr1ck: try a xset fp rehash, or perhaps log out/back in.
[16:02] <MoTec> auronandace: yeah, so it's all the same issue.. i'll just share the home folders from ubuntu instead of putting them on the NAS
[16:02] <Lartza> iceroot, Not sure what I am looking for :/
[16:02] <maocheia> I need to boot off an SD card (installed Fedora on it with unetbootin), but my BIOS doesn't recognize it at bootup. I'm thinking Grub might be my only way of doing this. Google shows me ways to do this with Grub 1, but not Grub 2. Anyone know how to add an option for an SD card to the Grub 2 menu? Any sugestions???
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> i thought x supportrf type 1 fonts
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> malkavian: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[16:03] <malkavian> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=a5acd7cb9157e93a601e9e15b68f837951e836cf
[16:04] <iceroot> Lartza: usermod -s /usr/lib/sftp-server username
[16:04] <iceroot> Lartza: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/94
[16:04] <iceroot> Lartza: that is the login shell i was talking about
[16:04] <Lartza> Yeah it's not in the man :)
[16:04] <Lartza> Thanks
[16:04] <iceroot> Lartza: it was in the big google manual :)
[16:04] <iceroot> Lartza: i thought it was also in man ssh, sorry
[16:05] <Lartza> No worries :)
[16:05] <roasted> Hmm, if I push 200MB via wireless to samba, it says to take 5 minutes. If I push 200MB via cat5e to samba, it says to take 2 hours. I wonder if it's aNIC issue?
[16:05] <ksbalaji> I just screwed up my hdd and have to physically disconnect. livecd wont boot if hdd is connected.
[16:06] <iceroot> ksbalaji: sounds just like a wrong boot order
[16:06] <Cheekio> I've got a question about installing Ubuntu
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> Cheekio  let's hear it
[16:07] <Lartza> iceroot, But the user is still able to browse other folders
[16:07] <erictr1ck> Dr_Willis: still not registering
[16:07] <Cheekio> I'm looking to dual-boot with win7 on my desktop, and when installing win7 I had the foresight to partition out my drives in anticipation of dual-booting
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> malkavian: have you tried muting channels in alsamixer whilst playng audio?
[16:07] <loculinux> hola
[16:07] <iceroot> Lartza: chroot
[16:07] <iceroot> Lartza: or permissions that he can not access other folders
[16:07] <Cheekio> I'm using the live USB boot of Ubuntu to install to a hard drive
[16:07] <Dr_Willis> erictr1ck: id check at askubuntu.com
[16:08] <loculinux> hola
[16:08] <Cheekio> but the options are using unfamiliar nomenclature and I don't want to mess anything up
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> Cheekio: are you wanting to dual boot?
[16:08] <MonkeyDust> Cheekio  select 'something else', then
[16:09] <Cheekio> Yes, I would like to dual boot
[16:09] <auronandace> !partitioning | cheekee
[16:09] <auronandace> !partitioning | Cheekio
[16:09] <MoTec> Well goodness... I can see and change the owner and group information on files on windows NAS in folders that my Ubuntu server is using as /home.  A bad idea, maybe.. But it's working.  I just had to use the POSIX tools..
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Cheekio: ok and what other OS do you have installed?
[16:09] <auronandace> cheekee: sorry, wrong nick
[16:09] <Cheekio> win7
[16:09] <maocheia> I need to boot off an SD card (installed Fedora on it with unetbootin), but my BIOS doesn't recognize it at bootup. I'm thinking Grub might be my only way of doing this. Google shows me ways to do this with Grub 1, but not Grub 2. Anyone know how to add an option for an SD card to the Grub 2 menu?
[16:09] <Cheekio> this is a super busy chatroom
[16:09] <MoTec> So, for what it's worth NTFS _does_ store the proper ACL info.
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Cheekio: resize the NTFS in Win7 after running a full backup and you can install Ubuntu to the freed space
[16:09] <malkavian> ActionParsnip: Yes, but no result. If not using mic boost recrd is too quite, with mic boost or high capture there is to much noise :(
[16:10] <roasted> ActionParsnip: I didn't get a chance to try what you said for Samba, but fun thought - wireless via samba 200MB in 5 minutes. wired via samba 200MB in 2 hours. Weird.
[16:10] <Cheekio> I already have an equally sized partition to my win7 partition, unformatted
[16:10] <Cheekio> I've left this big chunk of space open because I'd heard conflicting things about resizing windows partitions
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> malkavian: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure   try the first command there
[16:10] <GirlyGirl> Cheekio: You are trying to dual boot?
[16:10] <Lartza> To chroot sftp... Subsystem sftp internal-sftp?
[16:10] <Cheekio> Yes, @ GirlyGirl
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Cheekio: is the space partitioned though?
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> Cheekio  divide it further, so can have a separate /home partition -- you'll probably need an extended partition
[16:11] <Cheekio> Partitioned, not formatted
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> Cheekio: a pastebin of 'sudo fdisk -l' output would be handy
[16:11] <GirlyGirl> Cheekio: What os's are currently installed?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Cheekio: delete the partition and it will be accessible to the installer
[16:11] <Cheekio> There we go
[16:11] <Cheekio> Should I change the "Device for bot loader installation"?
[16:11] <Phaba> lib's like glib, libssh, openssl, tcpdump etc are installed by default on ubuntu right?
[16:12] <malkavian> ActionParsnip: Ok, I'll try and report results.
[16:12] <Cheekio> I have a 1TB drive that I'm working wit
[16:12] <Cheekio> Win7 is currently installed
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> Cheekio: boot drive is the hd you are installing to. ie: sda
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> Cheekio  type sudo fdisk -l|pastebinit and paste the url here
[16:12] <tziemann_> What is windows 7 again?
[16:12] <Cheekio> I'm typing on my laptop
[16:13] <Cheekio> Let me see if I can run that command via the live CD and connect to freenode via it
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> Cheekio: You'll need about 10Gb for Ubuntu, anything else will allow more user data, you can access the data on NTFS so you can use your files in both OSes. Windowsis dumb and can only access NTFS and FAT based file systems
[16:14] <Cheekio^Installa> It would seem that worked
[16:14] <Cheekio^Installa> Where is a console in a modern Gnome based Ubuntu?
[16:14] <swskillman> hi all. what hard drive format is best if i want access from both linux (Ubuntu) and OSX
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> !terminal
[16:15] <Phaba> /etc/bin is where bash is?
[16:15] <erictr1ck> Dr_Willis: theres something wrong with these files. when i open them in text edit they are blank and have no file size. the odd thing is that it does install on a mac from the same location as we are both connected to the same server. weird.
[16:15] <ksbalaji> iceroot: just wanted to know if I can connect hdd after booting up.
[16:15] <Dr_Willis> erictr1ck: loading a bnary file in a text editor dosent prove anything.
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> erictr1ck: 'file thefilename' would give info about them
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> Cheekio^laptop: press CTRL+ALT+T
[16:16] <theadmin> Phaba: /bash is in /bin, and /etc/bin doesn't even maek sense (/etc is "Editable Text Configuration").
[16:17] <theadmin> Phaba: err, bash is in /bin.
[16:17] <erictr1ck> Dr_Willis: ~/.fonts$ file AacheBol
[16:17] <erictr1ck> AacheBol: empty
[16:17] <Phaba> startup script? i dno :P
[16:17] <Hubbe> Hey, i was using telenet and whanted to change a users password, using: net users "wrong username". When it stood enter password i presst ctrl-c to cancel i got password changed... what did i change it to? :S
[16:17] <theadmin> Phaba: Oh, /etc/profile or /etc/bash.bashrc are what you're looking for.
[16:18] <theadmin> Phaba: Or maybe /etc/rc.local. Explain better.
[16:18] <theadmin> Hubbe: Uhm, "net users" is a Windows command. This channel doesn't provide Windows support.
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> Hubbe: try su-ing to the user and use the new pass
[16:19] <Hubbe> Nether do the windows channal... well wort a try...
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> people still use telnet...weird
[16:21] <Hubbe> Was a admin user so now i cant change it :/
[16:21] <veryape> ok, found out the problem, apparantly the drivers for my ati card has disabeled themselves without any reason, havn't changed kernel or anything..
[16:21] <Phaba> theadmin, i dont need anything from bash i just remember seeing thats where the bash startup script is i thought? i need to know about default libs and pkg_config if u can help? :)
[16:22] <Phaba> theadmin, i have some source code that keeps asking to install more and more libs that i presumed to be installed by default (tcpdump, openssl, glib etc) so i think i either have to create .pc files for them? or something i dont know
[16:23] <theadmin> Phaba: You just need the -dev versions that contain source files.
[16:24] <Cheekio> Phew, that was a ride
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Hubbe: if you can su to the user you will know the password change worked
[16:24] <Cheekio> Sorry for the disappearing act
[16:24] <Hubbe> Ok thx
[16:24] <Cheekio> pastebin.com/xhHjGLFA
[16:25] <Cheekio> that is the pastebin of my hard drive setup
[16:25] <Phaba> theadmin, -dev versions of all the libs its asking for? its 18+ libs :/
[16:25] <Cheekio> The "Something else" installation option has confounded me, despite having more than once dual-booted
[16:26] <Cheekio> I have my Win7 partition, which appears to be /dev/sda2
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> somthing else = 'you have control'
[16:26] <theadmin> Phaba: Yes. If the package you're building is in the repos, use apt-get build-dep
[16:26] <Phaba> theadmin, that when installing not building works fine, just when building from source asks for aload of libs, i have no idea about pkg_config tho
[16:26] <Cheekio> Free space, and then the /dev/sda4, which is just storage
[16:26] <morning> TJ- and others: I'm reporting back on the problem "wireless disabled by hardware switch" I brought here a few days ago. It turned out to be a hardware issue after all. The switch was good, but swapping out the motherboard and an internal cable fixed the problem. Thanks again for your help. Best wishes.
[16:26] <Dr_Willis> win7 also often has a boot type partition at the start of the disk. (sda1)
[16:26] <Cheekio> but I can't figure out how to put Ubuntu into that 107 gigs of free space
[16:27] <Cheekio> Yeah
[16:27] <Cheekio> 104 megs
[16:27] <marioand23> hola a todos
[16:28] <marioand23> hay algen que hable español
[16:28] <Dr_Willis> Cheekio: you can use gparted and delete the unwanted partitions, then beboot/restart the installer and tell it to use unallocated space and it will auto partition the unalocated space
[16:28] <morning> Si, pero hay otra lugar donde todos hablan espanol.
[16:28] <morning> Voy a preguntar donde esta.
[16:28] <marioand23> hola puedes decirme donde es que soy nuevo en esto
[16:29] <Phaba> theadmin, okay thanks
[16:29] <ksbalaji> Just wanted to know if I can connect hdd after booting up. The hdd is defective.
[16:29] <Dr_Willis> ksbalaji: ide or sata?
[16:30] <morning> marioand23: Es #ubuntu-es.
[16:31] <marioand23> disculpa mi ignoracia pero a donde me meto
[16:32] <genii-around> !es | marioand23
[16:32] <ksbalaji_> Just wanted to know if I can connect hdd after booting up. The hdd is defective.
[16:32] <marioand23> gracias
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> ksbalaji: ide or sata?........
[16:32] <marioand23> exlente
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> ide = no.. sata = perhaps...
[16:32] <ksbalaji_> Dr_Willis: ide
[16:32] <genii-around> Dr_Willis: Maybe it's SCSI ;-)
[16:32] <ksbalaji_> :(
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> best to put it in a usb enclosure
[16:32] <Cheekio> So I have a win7 partition at /dev/sda2 (and accompanying boot volume at /dev/sda1), a bunch of free space, and a file storage partition at /dev/sda4. How do I install Ubuntu in this free space?
[16:33] <Cheekio> I'm at the "Something Else" option, but the options available are seemingly limited
[16:33] <theadmin> Cheekio: Make a partition there. Extended one. Then inside that a / (ext4) and a swap
[16:33] <Dr_Willis> Cheekio: you want to keep the files in the filestorage arees?
[16:33] <Cheekio> Yes
[16:33] <Cheekio> I do want to keep those files
[16:33] <kenichi> why would a fresh 12.04LTS install close connections 0 - 30 secs after they are opened regardless of port?
[16:34] <morning> marioand23: De nada.
[16:34] <Dr_Willis> Cheekio: you do have backups?
[16:34] <Cheekio> The drive is pretty empty
[16:34] <ksbalaji_> Dr_Willis: I tried to do something with testdisk and it has become troublesome. I had to remove it physically to let livecd boot up.
[16:34] <Cheekio> It's a relatively fresh install of everything
[16:34] <Cheekio> So yes. I haven't moved most of my stuff over to the new drive yte.
[16:35] <kenichi> any ideas on what i could look at?  the various daemon logs show nothing
[16:35] <jaxdahl> i'm on 12.04 and passing -v or --verbose to the 'time' command such as 'time -v ./a.out' does not work, it says '-v command not found', running 'time ./a.out' works perfectly
[16:35] <Dr_Willis> Cheekio: id move it all to the windows drive. then  just in case. ;)
[16:35] <ksbalaji_> Dr_Willis: what is a hdd usb enclosure please?
[16:35] <Cheekio> I have literally 100 gigs sectioned out for an ubuntu partition
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> ksbalaji_: a box you put a hd in to turn it into a usb hd.
[16:36] <bdl> ciao
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> Cheekio: is it unallocated?
[16:36] <Cheekio> Yes
[16:36] <Cheekio> it is unallocated
[16:36] <Dr_Willis> should be an option to use it in the installer..
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> or make a extended in it. and a logical for / and a logical for swap
[16:37] <Dr_Willis> then tell the installer to use those
[16:37] <Cheekio> Wow
[16:37] <Cheekio> that was weird
[16:37] <Cheekio> alright
[16:37] <sporkboy> Okay, so I was trying to shrink a partition to dual boot ubu on an xp machine. I now have a 60GB hdd with a 50GB partition and 0 free space. I'm stumped.
[16:37] <bdl> !list
[16:38] <Rajvi> Hello All,What are backport updates.Do I really need them as a standard user.Secondly. What are default repositories that should be enabled?
[16:39] <GirlyGirl> Rajvi: They are updates got from a future ubuntu release and given to the current / older release
[16:40] <py_can> I'm trying to uninstall a program with apt-get remove but it gives the error "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)"
[16:40] <GirlyGirl> Rajvi: E.g Kubuntu 12.04 comes with KDE 4.8, if you need KDE 4.9 which will come in Kubuntu 12.10, you need backports
[16:41] <Rajvi> Okay Thanks @GirlyGirl
[16:45] <Aethrs> Did bulldozer scheduling ever get up to the level of phenom?
[16:48] <azrael_romel> ?
[16:49] <Aethrs> Scheduling for FPU at first made them slower than Phenoms.  Not sure if that ever got straightened out.
[16:49] <coolpro2121> Hello, how do I install package from Lauchpad.Net?
[16:51] <Peetee> whois ActionParsnip
[16:51] <syJheng_> 0.0
[16:52] <Peetee> whois Peetee
[16:53] <coolpro2121> I have an issue with my webcam, I checked out the troubeshooting page, and I'm trying to install: sudo apt-get install ld.so.preload-manager
[16:53] <coolpro2121> and getting an error.
[16:53] <EDinNY> I am having problems with sound. is anyone familiar with Alsamixer or the GUI mixer?
[16:53] <Autoclesis> How do I activate aspell in Ubuntu 12?
[16:53] <Peetee> what is aspell
[16:53] <Autoclesis> It's installed. How do activate it for all applications?
[16:53] <Autoclesis> spell check, Peetee
[16:54] <Moonlightning> How can I get the current battery status from a command line on a PowerBook G4?
[16:55] <EDinNY> Alsamixer does not have a bar over "headphone", so I can't control it's level...any ideas?
[16:55] <llutz> Moonlightning: "acpi -b" maybe?
[16:55] <theadmin> Moonlightning: There's the stuff under /proc/acpi/ too
[16:56] <Moonlightning> llutz: I don't have an `acpi`
[16:56] <Moonlightning> theadmin: nor a `/proc/acpi` tree
[16:58] <EDinNY> Can anyone help me compare their sound settings to mine?
[17:00] <spartan2276> When changing the network settings inferface should Ubuntu always ask for a password?
[17:00] <spartan2276> After an update to my system Ubuntu no longer asks for my password so I'm a bit concern about that. Maybe my system has been compromised
[17:01] <K4k> Hi, I'm trying to figure out why runningg mount --bind /dir /other/dir followed by mount -o remount,ro /other/dir shows the filesystem as mounted (ro,bind) but I can still touch files in /other/dir. Thoughts?
[17:02] <K4k> and it appears to only behave this way when I'm ssh'd as the user for whom is chroot'd to /other/dir
[17:02] <usr13> spartan2276: It logs you into your GUI interface without password?
[17:03] <nbastin> is there an update-manager that is cmdline only?
[17:03] <spartan2276> usr13: I'm referring to my network interface or network manager
[17:04] <Moonlightning> nbastin: I know at least that if you `apt-get install` a package that's already installed, it will update it to the latest version.
[17:04] <Moonlightning> And there's also `apt-get upgrade` and `apt-get dist-upgrade`
[17:04] <usr13> spartan2276: Oh.  Well, even that is just for local use.  Right?
[17:04] <spartan2276> usr13: it use to ask me for my password every time I wanted to modify my network connections but for some reason now it does not
[17:04] <TJ-> nbastin: "sudo apt-get upgrade" or "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to get new packages
[17:04] <EDinNY> nbastin, try "sudo apt-get update", then "sudo apt-get upgrade" to update with command line
[17:04] <nbastin> the prolem with apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade is they won't update to 12.10
[17:04] <nbastin> unless there's a flag I don't know about..
[17:04] <BluesKaj> !apt | nbastin
[17:05] <tziemann_> sudo apt-get install hping3
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> nbastin: thats a good thing. stops unexpected upgrades :)
[17:05] <TJ-> nbastin: You need to do "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[17:05] <usr13> spartan2276: I dont think it's of great concern, but you can probably change that if you want.
[17:05] <nbastin> TJ-: ah, that's the command I was looking for, thanks!
[17:05] <EDinNY> Can any one compare sound setting with mine?
[17:05] <usr13> spartan2276: Seems to be just a bit more convenient for you.  Right?
[17:05] <nbastin> TJ-: hrm, except do-release-upgrade -d still doesn't find a 12.10
[17:06] <BadDesign> Has Ubuntu 12.04.1 been released?
[17:06] <EDinNY> 12.10 is not out till year 12 month 10
[17:06] <Moonlightning> BadDesign: yep, I have it
[17:06] <spartan2276> usr13: yes but y worry is that I did not change that so something or someone had to
[17:06] <Moonlightning> EDinNY: ...does it really work like that? :o
[17:06] <EDinNY> YES
[17:06] <EDinNY> 12.04 came out in April...
[17:06] <usr13> spartan2276: Certainly your system is still password protected.  You can test that by going into a console terminal to log in.
[17:07] <TJ-> nbastin: Do "sudo apt-get install update-manager-core" first
[17:07] <Moonlightning> So that's why they skip a bunch of minors all the time? XD
[17:07] <nbastin> TJ-: already newest version
[17:07] <EDinNY> ubuntu only releases twice a year.  They picked those months
[17:07] <usr13> spartan2276: To go to console terminal tty6 do:  Ctrl-Alt-F6 and log in with your user name and password.
[17:08] <spartan2276> usr13: ok thanks
[17:08] <Moonlightning> EDinNY: /always/ April and October?
[17:08] <EDinNY> ...but since 12.04 is long term support, I will keep using it for a few years. Unless they come out with something REALLY great
[17:08] <EDinNY> Moonlightning: yes
[17:08] <aperturescience> тЙГК ТШУПИ. чЙЬ ЕТТЦГИ ЗЙЬАИ KOI-8 ЙРГАИИ ЙЙЁЁЁЁ?
[17:09] <Moonlightning> How do they pick which ones get LTS? Is it always the April ones, or...?
[17:09] <Moonlightning> !ru | aperturescience
[17:09] <EDinNY> every 2.5 years, I believe
[17:09] <aperturescience> рЙГИИ?
[17:09] <EDinNY> the last one was 10.10 I think
[17:09] <EDinNY> Still running that on a server
[17:09] <nbastin> 10.04 was LTS
[17:09] <Moonlightning> :<
[17:09] <usr13> spartan2276: It may be that network-manager's config file is new and no longer requires password. Actually, mine never has, not on any system I've ever built.  I think it was you that configured it to ask for password.  Right?
[17:09] <brontosaurusrex> !mu | aperturescience
[17:09] <shcherba1> !lts
[17:10] <EDinNY> nbastin: my mistake
[17:10] <TJ-> nbastin: See bug #1020462
[17:10] <usr13> spartan2276: BTW, in case you don't know, Ctrl-Alt-F7 will get you back to GUI.  (or just Alt-Right-Arrow).
[17:10] <dury> hi there all :-)
[17:10]  * EDinNY is still looking for someone to compare sound setting to
[17:11] <kwyjibo> hello. i have an acer netbook with an extra sdcard slot to expand its meager SSD storage. is there a way to make that slot just extend the total storage instead of having gnome display a HUD 24/7 with option to eject the sdcard?
[17:11] <EDinNY> I just need you to type alsamixer in a command box and tell me what you see
[17:11] <usr13> EDinNY: What is your issue?
[17:11] <Moonlightning> How long are non-LTS versions supported for?
[17:11] <kwyjibo> its running ubuntu 12.04
[17:11] <spartan2276> usr13: My PC at home asks me for a password all the time when making changes in network manager, weird, but thanks
[17:11] <stochastic> Hi, has anyone in here seen the release notes for Ubuntu 12.04.1?
[17:11] <martian_> Could someone remind me what the little trick is to install all packages required to compile another?
[17:11] <EDinNY> usr13: I was trying to get a mike to work and I killed my speaker output
[17:12] <usr13> EDinNY: Is it a laptop or desktop?
[17:12] <EDinNY> usr13: so I have no sound from the speakers
[17:12] <EDinNY> desktop
[17:12] <usr13> !sound | EDinNY
[17:13] <Peetee> EDinNY: have U tried pavucontrol or something?
[17:13] <EDinNY> usr13, every setting on alsamixer has a bar graph above it except "speaker"
[17:13] <usr13> EDinNY: I think that is normal
[17:13] <cristian_c> Hi
[17:13] <EDinNY> usr13, that is what I wanted to know.  I want to know what you have turned on
[17:14] <cristian_c> Do you know if webkitgtk supports the images management in webpages?
[17:14] <usr13> EDinNY: It would only be the same if I had same PC, (same sound chip).
[17:14] <cristian_c> I've looked for in the documentation
[17:14] <cristian_c> but I've not found anything yet
[17:15] <EDinNY> usr13, I know that, but I might get an idea of what I am missing
[17:15] <cristian_c> Do you know something weither have some other links?
[17:16] <kwyjibo> oh come on. i know there must be a way to do it
[17:16] <chamunks> I need an assist with setting up http://www.iloveubuntu.net/add-pastebin-and-social-media-sharing-support-gedit-pastebinit-gwibber
[17:16] <EDinNY> usr13, got it.  It seems that  pavucontrol gives me more control than what I was using!  Thanks
[17:16] <usr13> EDinNY: Very good.
[17:18] <kwyjibo> is it somehow a manner of dynamically extending the root partition with sdcard storage?
[17:19] <uskerine> hi
[17:19] <Peetee> hi
[17:19] <uskerine> how can i check network stats?
[17:19] <uskerine> for a given interface
[17:19] <uskerine> like throughput, etc.
[17:19] <psichas> How i coudl get firefox 3.6.23?
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> uskerine: ip addr
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> uskerine: ntop    may help too
[17:20] <usr13> kwyjibo: What are you trying to do?
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> psichas: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[17:20] <Peetee> uskerine: System-Administration-System monitor
[17:20] <uskerine> console
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> uskerine: ^
[17:21] <EDinNY> kwyjibo, there is a way to use "stiping" to make the total space the sum of 2 devises, but I don't know if you can do it between such different devices, or that you want to
[17:21] <usr13> uskerine: ifconfig
[17:21] <kwyjibo> usr13: i have a netbook with 16gb ssd and two sdcard slots (one can be dedicated to extra storage all the time). but ubuntu treats the sdcard as an extra ejectable media. i want it to absorb the sdcard to extend the total storage
[17:21] <EDinNY> kwyjibo: is this in a laptop?  Can you move part of what is in your root to another partition?
[17:21] <usr13> kwyjibo: How big are they?
[17:21] <usr13> kwyjibo: What are their sizes?
[17:22] <kwyjibo> usr13: 16 gig SSD, 32 gig SDcard
[17:22] <uskerine> ip addr does not provide any stats about usage
[17:22] <betArk> Hi! I have a message but I don't know if it wrong.. "debug: /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-lvswap type not recognised; skipping"
[17:22] <uskerine> is ntop console or http tool?
[17:22] <betArk> My system boots fine
[17:22] <EDinNY> uskerine: what are you trying to find out?
[17:22] <betArk> but the message is displayed on boot
[17:22] <kwyjibo> EDinNY: netbook, as above :)
[17:23] <usr13> kwyjibo: So you want to use the 32G SD card permanently?
[17:23] <Goldwing> betArk lvswap... it's your swap partition that isn't being recognized
[17:23] <kwyjibo> usr13: and how!
[17:23] <usr13> kwyjibo: I should take that as a yes?
[17:23] <betArk> Goldwing: yes it is my swap, I have created it on LVM. Could that be an issue?
[17:23] <kwyjibo> usr13: yeah
[17:24] <Goldwing> betArk : how much ram does your system have?
[17:24] <betArk> Goldwing: 8GB
[17:24] <usr13> kwyjibo: So right now, you are just working from the 16G only?
[17:24] <Goldwing> well, i wouldn't worry about it then, except when your system runs large databases
[17:25] <uskerine> EDinNY I am trying to find how much out of the Gbit interface is being used
[17:25] <kwyjibo> usr13: yes. and gnome has this HUD thing always popping up at the bottom, suggesting i eject the sdcard. very intrusive
[17:25] <betArk> Goldwing: but does this mean that my swap isnt working at all?
[17:25] <Goldwing> looks like it, yes
[17:25] <betArk> Goldwing: hmm.. damm?
[17:26] <usr13> kwyjibo: Ok then.  My suggestion would be to use the 32G for /home/ the 16G for /
[17:26] <Goldwing> with 8gb... i wouldnt worry to much
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> usr13: 16Gb, sounds a lot
[17:26] <bekor> hi, i am using ubuntu 12.04  and having issues with getting magic lamp to work everything else seems to work on compis except that and other windows effects wobbly does fine. i just feel like their must be something i do not know
[17:27] <Goldwing> betArk : do a
[17:27] <kwyjibo> usr13: a lot of unused space then? can it just treat the two as one device?
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> bekor: can you pastebin the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | grep -i compiz
[17:27] <betArk> Goldwing: yes, but have created the swap also for hibernate etc.
[17:27] <Goldwing> betArk : do a "cat /etc/fstab" and paste the swap line
[17:27] <usr13> kwyjibo: No
[17:27] <Goldwing> betArk : do a "cat /etc/fstab" and paste the swap line  here
[17:27] <f00bar80> anybody here's using unbound ?
[17:27] <bekor> sorry not sure what you mean
[17:28] <neta> hi!
[17:28] <usr13> kwyjibo: pastebinit /etc/fstab  #Give us resulting URL
[17:28] <betArk> Goldwing: oke, one sec.
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> bekor: run the command and copy the output. go to http://pastie.org  and paste the text there, when the page changes, copy the url in the menu bar and paste it here
[17:29] <GoldStandard> Anyone know where apt-get download puts the downloaded files?
[17:29] <bekor> how do i get that into the terminal?
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> GoldStandard: /var/cache/apt/archives
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> bekor: copy and paste it
[17:30] <GoldStandard> actionparsnip thanks!
[17:30] <neta> i have a problem- i need a dictionary, so i downloaded stardict and goldendict, but i didn't succeed to use dictionarys that i downloaded from babylon
[17:30] <betArk> Goldwing: http://pastebin.com/D2bBsD8k
[17:30] <bekor> i do not see a copy option when i right click
[17:31] <neta> oh, lots of new guys :)
[17:31] <tziemann_> so you use control + c noob
[17:32] <bekor> i do not see a copy command in xchat
[17:32] <tziemann_> bekor: Step away from the mouse and keyboard.
[17:32] <rax-> Any help on this would be much appreciated! : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2046544
[17:32] <betArk> Goldwing: have you seen the link? (http://pastebin.com/D2bBsD8k)
[17:32] <Goldwing> yea
[17:32] <Goldwing> you have 2 swap partitions
[17:32] <Goldwing> ./dev/mapper/cryptswap1 none swap sw 0 0
[17:33] <racha> bekor, IIRC, you highlight text and it's automatically copied
[17:33] <Goldwing> and /dev/mapper/VolGroup00-lvswap none
[17:33] <chamunks> ActionParsnip, is there a way to make apt-fast just auto agree to the prompts?
[17:33] <tziemann_> bkor rage quit
[17:33] <tziemann_> lol
[17:33] <usr13> bekor: or: lsb_release -a >info;uname -a >>info; dpkg -l | grep -i compiz >>info;  pastebinit info ; rm info
[17:33] <Goldwing> Ubuntu will only use one
[17:33] <Goldwing> and ignore the other one
[17:33] <betArk> Goldwing: Hmm.. I have created an Ubuntu installer with RAID 1, Encryption and LVM. Swap is on the encrypted LVM partition
[17:34] <betArk> Goldwing: why is the last line visible?
[17:34] <Goldwing> you mean the cryptswap?
[17:34] <azrael_romel> yahoo messenger working in ubuntu 12.04?
[17:35] <betArk> Goldwing: Yes, is that the correct line to enter the encrypted LVM partition for swap?
[17:35] <wasutton3> which channel should i go to to find support for rhythmbox
[17:35] <kwyjibo> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1163045
[17:36] <Goldwing> well, for ubuntu, swap is swap, and because you are using a encrypted LVM ubuntu will use the cryptswap and not the regular swap. therefore you get the error on the regular swap while booting
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> chamunks: you can use the '-y' option
[17:37] <confusion> hello everyone
[17:37] <neta> hi
[17:37] <usr13> kwyjibo: sudo fdisk -l >info;sudo blkid >>info;pastebinit info;rm info  #And send resulting URL
[17:37] <betArk> Goldwing: but I only have an swap on the encrypted LVM. So no two. My disk: /boot - Encrypted LVM (with lvroot, lvhome, lvswap)
[17:38] <neta>  i have a problem- i need a dictionary, so i downloaded stardict and goldendict, but i didn't succeed to use dictionarys that i downloaded from babylon
[17:38] <Moonlightning> How do I get the system to hibernate automatically when the system gets to reserve power? Right now it just shuts down as if with `sudo shutdown -h now`
[17:38] <confusion> is it ok to ask questions away here?
[17:38] <neta> can u help me? :)
[17:38] <Moonlightning> !ask | confusion
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Moonlightning: is there anyting in the power icon in dash?
[17:38] <confusion> [Question] why and how does "ls lgrep /" work
[17:38] <Goldwing> well, you could hash out the line "/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-lvswap none            swap    sw              0       0"
[17:38] <Moonlightning> ActionParsnip: I have a problem with the display; it's really hard to see or read anything…can we do this via the CLI?
[17:39] <betArk> Goldwing: yes, the error message is gone
[17:39] <Goldwing> solved :)
[17:39] <betArk> betArk: thanks! can I check if swap is working? (I still have keeped the last swap line)
[17:39] <betArk> Goldwing: thanks! can I check if swap is working? (I still have keeped the last swap line)
[17:39] <confusion> !patience
[17:39] <uskerine> is it normal to see traffic in "lo"
[17:40] <racha> I've been reading a very long thread on the ubuntu forum about backups using tar, but I couldn't see anything in 100+ pages that does what I want; to restore on a VPS in a way that deletes any files that are present, but not included in the backup.  Any takers?
[17:40] <uskerine> i have almost same traffic than for "eth0"
[17:40] <Goldwing> betArk : hmmmm.. never tried that before, testing swap..
[17:40] <Danielpk> I trying to configure sendmail but i can't find sendmail.mc at /etc/mail/ is there other place that i should look?
[17:40] <betArk> Goldwing: or see if it is mounted?
[17:40] <Goldwing> you would need to fill up the RAM to test the swap
[17:41] <usr13> uskerine: lo is just loop-back interface
[17:41] <tziemann_> Goldwing: What is the best way to learn ubuntu, and iptables?
[17:41] <uskerine> i know that
[17:41] <W4sp> azrael_romel: You can use 'Empathy', which should have been installed by default. IT can be used for Yahoo!, MSN, Jabber and other services.
[17:41] <uskerine> so why should it have same traffic than eth0
[17:41] <uskerine> is that correcT?
[17:42] <Goldwing> well, i'm positive it's mounted, otherwise it would have given an error
[17:42] <Goldwing> brb
[17:42] <phy1729> is there an easy way to apt-get upgrade multiple servers easier then just ssh and apt-get 5 or 6 times?
[17:42] <confusion> possibly if you let a script do that for you
[17:42] <phy1729> I read not to cron job it incase it need new configs
[17:43] <usr13> tziemann_: Building a NAT router is a good way to learn IPTABLES.  Using Ubuntu is a good way to learn Ubuntu, (spending time experimenting).  There are lots of websites that you can learn from too.
[17:43] <llutz> racha:rsync --delete    might do what you want, i doubt tar can do
[17:43] <chamunks> ActionParsnip, thanks
[17:43] <racha> Thanks, llutz, I'll give that a try.
[17:44] <tziemann_> usr13: I work with a NAT router, but have enver built one. Any suggestions?
[17:45] <W4sp> racha: You may evaluate rsync. You can configure rsync so that files no longer available in <src> are removed from <target>. That's the way I understand your requirements, that is.
[17:45] <uskerine> can ubuntu one be stopped/started like a service in a multi-user environment
[17:45] <uskerine> ?
[17:45] <uskerine> like enable or disable for all user
[17:45] <uskerine> like enable or disable for all users
[17:45] <uskerine> (via console)
[17:46] <racha> W4sp, I think that's what I mean.  If file1 and file2 are in a directory, but only file1 is in the backup, when I restore I want file2 to be removed.
[17:46] <Kircle> I'm trying to get the sound to work with an emulator. It's set to use OSS for the sound but in Terminal it gives me 'SPU: open("/dev/dsp", O_WRONLY): No such file or directory'
[17:46] <betArk> Goldwing: seems to be working now! Thanks! I see the correct swap line in /etc/crypttab.. so maybe the installer or I did something wrong?
[17:46] <racha> So that when I mess up installing stuff I don't have old files kicking around
[17:46] <tziemann_> betArk: Hishnakoya?
[17:46] <usr13> tziemann_: If you have an unused PC and about 3 network cards, you can build a NAT router.
[17:46] <W4sp> racha: Then rsync is the one you may wish to use. Tar can't do it for you.
[17:47] <racha> TYVM
[17:47] <betArk> tziemann_: whay?
[17:47] <betArk> tziemann_: what?
[17:47] <zerts> W:Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/xubuntu-dev/xfce-4.10/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found   how can I delete this plz help
[17:47] <usr13> tziemann_: For learning Ubuntu, here is a website:  https://help.ubuntu.com/
[17:47] <abro21> is there a way to kill programs running in the backround without system monitor? something to free up some RAM
[17:48] <py_can> abro21: you'd need to know which programs to kill
[17:48] <py_can> abro21: google for a tutorial on minimizing your RAM usage on ubuntu
[17:48] <ki4ro> zerts: Are you trying to do an update?
[17:49] <shcherba1> abro21: htop and kill is lethal combo.
[17:49] <khan> you can use 'kill' command from the terminal
[17:49] <usr13> tziemann_: Here is a website for learning how to build a NAT router:  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml
[17:50] <zerts> Hi ki4ro I add that rep time a go.
[17:50] <tziemann_> usr13: you are awesome
[17:51] <ki4ro> zerts: If you open the update manager and select options you should be able to find it in one of the lists and uncheck the box next to its name
[17:51] <zerts> ki4ro thx let me check
[17:52] <ki4ro> zerts: Welcome...good luck
[17:53] <usr13> tziemann_: The first few links here will be of interest for iptables: https://www.google.com/search?q=learning+IP+tables&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[17:55] <usr13> tziemann_: There are many....
[17:55] <tziemann_> oh yeah
[17:55] <tziemann_> I started reading, there is a lot to know
[17:55] <tziemann_> I work at Ecessa, we deal with WAN optimization
[17:56] <uskerine> how can I kill this?
[17:56] <uskerine> sysadmin tty7                      07Aug12 17days  7:51   0.00s /bin/sh /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc -- /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc
[17:56] <uskerine> why does it have so large JCPU value (that's w output)
[17:58] <sambagirl> is ubuntu 10.04 lts still supported?
[17:58] <sporkboy> uskerine, no pid in ps aux?
[18:00] <usr13> uskerine: xinit is the X Window System initializer
[18:01] <usr13> uskerine: You can kill X  (if you just want console mode).  sudo pkill X
[18:01] <usr13> sporkboy: Yes
[18:01] <goddard> who else thinks the ubuntu wiki sucks?
[18:02] <usr13> sambagirl: Yes
[18:02] <ki4ro> sambagirl: Until 2015 I believe
[18:02] <usr13> sambagirl: see:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[18:02] <randomiser> how to format a pendrive using ubuntu terminal?
[18:02] <usr13> goddard: There are a lot of ubuntu wiki's so.....
[18:03] <usr13> randomiser: mkfs
[18:03] <goddard> usr13: have you ever contributed to the offical wiki?
[18:07] <sambagirl> thanks!ki4ro
[18:07] <jrib> goddard: do you have an actual support question related to ubuntu?
[18:07] <sambagirl> the new gnome and unity and all this insanity is all trash. STINKS!
[18:07] <W4sp> randomiser: Run 'mkfs -t <fstype> /dev/?' where <fstype> is any of the supported ones, such as ext4 or msdos.
[18:08]  * knyn is back (gone 00:00:43)
[18:08] <randomiser> i'll try that!
[18:08] <newb2linux> halo why there are so many ubuntu xubuntu lubuntu edubuntu kubuntu which one should i install
[18:08] <sambagirl> newb2linux i like pinguyos and you may like ubuntustudio
[18:08] <sambagirl> all of them are good
[18:09] <newb2linux> pinguyos website please
[18:09] <darkham> hi, i need to upgrade mesa drivers on the 10.04, something newer than the last available, 7.7.1
[18:09] <Rpley> I'm traying to do a buffer overflow, and y got it, but I can't overwrite the ESP register (I don't know why), then I can load a shellcode to take the control of the execution
[18:09] <darkham> how can i do?
[18:09] <W4sp> sambagirl: install a DE that you would like to have and keep lightdm as it is. Once your DE has been installed it will show up on the login screen. Select your DE from a list next to your name.
[18:09] <Persona24> Hi, I was on here yesterday asking about my wireless connection. I'm running the latest version of Ubuntu. I installed the additional driver and I installed the updates and I still can't get a wireless signal
[18:09] <wilee-nilee> pinguyos is not well supported anywhere
[18:09] <newb2linux> ubuntu studio websit pleas
[18:09] <W4sp> sambagirl: I thought, however, you know that already. :-)
[18:09] <sambagirl> hah
[18:10] <goddard> jrib: this is a support question related to ubuntu
[18:10] <sambagirl> w4sp i will do that. w4sp i swear microsoft and apple are behind all this mess today.
[18:10] <goddard> jrib: im wondering if anyone else considers it annoying how the wiki is setup
[18:10] <newb2linux> should i nstall pirated copy of windows 8 tm i have xp now
[18:10] <melkor> Whats a cd burning program that works?
[18:10] <jrib> goddard: "who else thinks the ubuntu wiki sucks?" is not a support question.  If you want to talk about the quality of the wiki, please use #ubuntu-offtopic instead
[18:10] <wilee-nilee> Persona24, what is the wireless card?
[18:11] <sambagirl> there is no pirated version of w8 it's a free beta
[18:11] <sambagirl> and it sucks even worse than unity
[18:11] <newb2linux> pls recocomend me a linux os
[18:11] <sambagirl> i just did
[18:11] <newb2linux> website
[18:11] <W4sp> sambagirl: :-) Feel free to share your conspiracy theories. This is the wrong place, tho.
[18:11] <sambagirl> distrowatch.com
[18:11] <newb2linux> what is this pclinuxos
[18:12] <sambagirl> the truth will set you free and the truth will get you banned
[18:12] <sambagirl> look up on google
[18:12] <usr13> goddard: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/Contacts
[18:12] <newb2linux> ok am downloading pclinuxos
[18:12] <newb2linux> it looks like windows
[18:12] <newb2linux> 7
[18:12] <sambagirl> wow groovy
[18:12] <W4sp> newb2linux: There's a website www.distrowatch.com .
[18:12] <sambagirl> gag me with a spoon
[18:12] <jrib> sambagirl: stop please
[18:13] <newb2linux> ubuntu has this mac like buttons i hate
[18:13] <sambagirl> newb2linux go hate somewhere else please
[18:13] <usr13> sambagirl: newb2linux /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:13] <sambagirl> ok
[18:14] <newb2linux> guys what is this quote if you use debian u learn debian if u use red hat u learn red hat if u want to learn linu learn to use slackware what is this
[18:14] <Moonlightning> newb2linux: it's all open source. If you don't like it, change it yourself.
[18:14] <Persona24> wilee-nilee: I don't know. This is not my computer. How can I find out?
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> newb2linux  wrong channel
[18:14] <Moonlightning> Or find something that you /do/ like. Because somepony's probably already had the same dislike you have and made a different version that you'll like.
[18:15] <W4sp> newb2linux: Ubuntu is a distro, you have have any desktop environment and theme you possibly want. It is only a few clicks away.
[18:15] <newb2linux> i am using xp want to daul boot a linux os
[18:15] <newb2linux> most say ubuntu
[18:15] <newb2linux> but ubuntu looks ugly and mac like
[18:15] <MonkeyDust> newb2linux  not here please
[18:15] <jrib> newb2linux: then don't use ubuntu.  This channel is for help with ubuntu only
[18:15] <Persona24> newb2linux: You could always try KDE
[18:16] <Moonlightning> newb2linux: you don't have to take suggestions from anyone…
[18:16] <newb2linux> i am new man
[18:16] <usr13> newb2linux: Ubuntu is probably the most user friendly and the package management system is the most sophistocated.  The choice is yours.  I recommend Ubuntu or Xubuntu
[18:16] <W4sp> newb2linux: This is #ubuntu to take on technical challenges.
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> newb2linux  choose a distro of your liking and try that
[18:16] <Moonlightning> ^
[18:16] <newb2linux> what is debian
[18:16] <usr13> *sophisticated*
[18:17] <xangua> newb2linux: do you have an ubuntu support related question¿ yes or no¿
[18:17] <confusion> [Question] "ls lgrep /" works and prints only dirs -- but why/how? (i have no lgrep installed and the arguments for ls seems fishy. man, info, google have no info)
[18:17] <newb2linux> yaa why there are so many buntus
[18:17] <newb2linux> which to go for
[18:17] <usr13> newb2linux: See: debian.org
[18:17] <Moonlightning> Anyway. I'm trying to find a way to get the battery status from the command line on a PowerBook G4 running 12.04.1-LTS?
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> newb2linux  try one, like we all did
[18:17] <newb2linux> whcih one
[18:17] <newb2linux> kubuntu is beautiful
[18:18] <sambagirl> i did a traceroute on newb2linux and asked anonymous crew to do a background check and it has been discovered that this is bill gates mini me
[18:18] <usr13> newb2linux: It is common sense.  If you ask which is the best on #ubuntu, they will say Ubuntu.  If you ask which is the best on #slackware, they will say Slackware.
[18:18] <Moonlightning> newb2linux: maybe ask on http://unix.stackexchange.com/ or http://www.superuser.com/ which one would be good for you?
[18:18] <newb2linux> what is unity
[18:19] <Persona24> wilee-nilee: I don't know. This is not my computer. How can I find out?
[18:19] <L3top> newb2linux: a desktop environment. Default one for ubuntu
[18:19] <confusion> @newb2linux the userintarface
[18:19] <newb2linux> hey why ubuntu not use gnome
[18:19] <newb2linux> google say gnome is the best desktop interface
[18:19] <confusion> google says many things
[18:19] <darkham> i need to upgrade mesa drivers
[18:19] <xangua> newb2linux: ubuntu uses gnome
[18:19] <Persona24> newb2linux: it's all a mater of opinion
[18:19] <darkham> on ubuntu 10.04
[18:19] <Moonlightning> newb2linux: you can probably make it use gnome…
[18:20] <usr13> newb2linux: It is a matter of preference
[18:20] <darkham> please help me.
[18:20] <L3top> newb2linux: gnome3 is used.
[18:20] <L3top> !gnome
[18:20] <Moonlightning> Persona24: `lscpi` I think
[18:20] <L3top> !gnome3
[18:20] <usr13> newb2linux: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:20] <root__> hi
[18:20] <usr13> hi
[18:20] <Persona24> Moonlightning: "command not found"
[18:21]  * Moonlightning blinks
[18:21] <L3top> lspci Persona24
[18:21] <wilee-nilee> Persona24, here are two commands one of which should identify the card   lspci | grep -i wireless  lspci | grep Broadcom
[18:21] <Moonlightning> Ze doesn't seem to have `lspci`
[18:21] <root__> usr13
[18:21] <Moonlightning> Is it bundled with Ubuntu?
[18:21] <newb2linux> hey join ubuntu offtopic
 Persona24: `lscpi` I think                       lsPCI not lsCPI
[18:21] <usr13> newb2linux: good idea
[18:21] <newb2linux> usr13 join ubuntu offtopic
[18:21] <Moonlightning> Oh, derp.
[18:21] <usr13> newb2linux: I did
[18:21] <Moonlightning> Yes, `lspci`, sorry
[18:22] <newb2linux> i cannot find u
[18:22] <root__> back track
[18:22] <newb2linux> us13 join me
[18:22] <root__> or mint
[18:22] <Persona24> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 02
[18:22] <xangua> newb2linux: can you stop that please¿
[18:22] <L3top> !mint | root__
[18:22] <usr13> Persona24: Do you have Ubuntu 12.04 installed?
[18:22] <Persona24> usr13: yes
[18:22] <wilee-nilee> ! broadcom | Persona24  look here
[18:23] <root__> but back track
[18:23] <usr13> Persona24: And your wireless card is not working?
[18:23] <root__> is secure
[18:23] <newb2linux> guys ubuntu offtopic consists of boring people they are talking abt pineapples
[18:23] <Moonlightning> How can I get the battery status from the command line on a PowerBook G4 running 12.04.1-LTS?
[18:23] <msergiu80> can somebody help me by telling me why do I have a doubled CNAME record on "dig www.embedded-systems.ro"
[18:24] <Persona24> usr13: Hasn't been. . . Pretty sure you was helping me last night ont it. I installed the additional drivers and did an update and still nothing works
[18:24] <jrib> newb2linux: this channel is for questions about the ubuntu operating system.  Please stay on-topic.  Thanks.
[18:24] <usr13> Persona24: sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer;sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source
[18:24] <Persona24> usr13: This was running Windows Vista and the wireless card was working just fine
[18:24] <msergiu80> so that non-www works but www doesn;t in a browser
[18:24] <usr13> Persona24: Did you do the above?
[18:24] <jhourani> hi all...anyone here familiar with graph-based databases? specifically Orient_db or neo4j?
[18:24] <newb2linux> can i run call of duty modern warfare in ubuntu
[18:24] <Persona24> usr13: Just did
[18:25] <newb2linux> nfs most wanted in ubuntu
[18:25] <usr13> Persona24: So try it now.
[18:25] <lordievader> newb2linux: Check the wine db: http://www.winehq.org/search?cx=partner-pub-0971840239976722%3Aw9sqbcsxtyf&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=UTF-8&q=call+of+duty+modern&siteurl=appdb.winehq.org%2FobjectManager.php%3FsClass%3Dcategory%26iId%3D%26sAction%3Dview%26sTitle%3DBrowse%2BApplications&ref=www.google.nl%2Furl%3Fsa%3Dt%26rct%3Dj%26q%3Dwinedb%26source%3Dweb%26cd%3D1%26ved%3D0CCAQFjAA%26url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fappdb.winehq.org%252Fappbrowse.
[18:25] <lordievader> php%26ei%3DenU2UMSpHIqi0QXG9IHQBg%26usg%3DAFQjCNHpNZOfcnw_eU53lJH66PB1UMQTOA&ss=5511j1594109j25
[18:25] <usr13> Persona24: You may need to restart your PC.
[18:25] <Persona24> usr13: Still nohing. This is what it said "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[18:26] <newb2linux> why ubuntu has no virus
[18:26] <usr13> Persona24: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38327/how-can-i-get-broadcom-bcm4311-wireless-working
[18:26] <usr13> newb2linux: Because it is Linux.
[18:26] <Moonlightning> newb2linux: because Windows is still the most popular, so most malware is written for Windows?
[18:26] <jhourani> ok so no graph-database experience in here/.
[18:26] <Moonlightning> Linux is also more secure, I think.
[18:26] <lordievader> newb2linux: There are some, however since 98% still runs windows, it isn't efficient for virus writers to make linux virusses.
[18:27] <usr13> Moonlightning: Not exactly.  It is because Linux is different, and not vulnerable.
[18:27] <lordievader> What is the market share of linux nowadays?
[18:27] <usr13> lordievader: Pretty big.
[18:27] <usr13> very big.
[18:27] <Persona24> usr13: Did they like take package manager off in 12.04? >.> I can't find it
[18:27] <iceroot> lordievader: of course it would be efficient to write viruses for GNU/Linux because on most systems there is linux running (just not on desktop systems)
[18:27] <wilee-nilee> lordievader, unknown,
[18:28] <lordievader> usr13: How many percent roughly?
[18:28] <iceroot> lordievader: smartphones, routers, server, embedded systems, everything running linux with more or less the same kernel
[18:28] <usr13> virus problems are not our concern, not a threat.  Just leave it at that.
[18:28] <jhourani> 1.53% of people use Linux...so not very big usr
[18:28] <usr13> lots and lots of servers
[18:28] <jhourani> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems
[18:28] <L3top> the internet is run on linux
[18:29] <L3top> very big.
[18:29] <lordievader> I was talking more about desktops...
[18:29] <usr13> jhourani: Dono where you get your stats but.... ????
[18:29] <L3top> not to mention android
[18:29] <jhourani> i provided a link
[18:29] <jhourani> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems
[18:29] <L3top> I was talking about virus targets
[18:29] <L3top> effective virus targets
[18:29] <usr13> L3top: What?
[18:29] <L3top> It is difficult at best to write viruses for a secure OS. The reason they are all written for windows is because it is easily exploited.
[18:29] <lordievader> L3top: Yes in that way, linux does have quite a share, in servers and what not.
[18:29] <jhourani> not to mention i am a software engineer...and the only nerds still using this archaic OS are us seems like...
[18:30] <Myrtti> however interesting this discussion about Linux and viruses is, unless you have a direct support question, could you please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic?
[18:30] <MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> hello speak hier jemand german???
[18:30] <darkham> how can i upgrade mesa drivers on ubuntu 10.04?
[18:30] <Myrtti> !de | MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
[18:30] <usr13> jhourani: What archaic OS are you talking about?
[18:30] <anotheruser> L3top, the reason they are all written for windows is only because windows is far more used
[18:30] <L3top> correct Myrtti. Sorry. I am so easily sucked in.
[18:30] <wilee-nilee> MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, english only
[18:30] <L3top> !ot
[18:30] <jhourani> Linux. I cant stand it. I have to use it for development, because my company does
[18:30] <usr13> anotheruser: Not true.  Your information is in error.
[18:30] <Daghdha> Hi i am staring at a blank desktop of a ubuntu desktop t hat's not shutting down. EVERYTHING is empty, it just won't go down
[18:31] <Daghdha> Any buttons i can press (power buttons excluded)
[18:31] <jhourani> I run into all kinds of issues that I dont hit on windows (yes, I said it, I prefer to develop on windows!)
[18:31] <Moonlightning> Daghdha: control-alt-F1, log in, `sudo shutdown -h now` will shut down immediately
[18:31] <usr13> jhourani:  You work for a smart company.
[18:31] <jhourani> lol
[18:31] <anotheruser> jhourani, that's probably only because you haven't enough experience on linux yet
[18:31] <Moonlightning> !offtopic | jhourani
[18:31] <llutz> !ot | jhourani this is a support-channel
[18:31] <jhourani> dont care
[18:32] <Daghdha> Moonlightning: I have to be at the machine for that?
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> Daghdha, ctrl-alt-prtsc reisuo
[18:32] <jhourani> and anotheruser you're probably right :)
[18:32] <Moonlightning> Daghdha: how are you logged in right now? `ssh`?
[18:32] <usr13> jhourani: Don't care someplace else, your anti linux comments are wasted on us.
[18:32] <newbzilla> which chat room is best for basic ubuntu troubleshooting? i cant get flash player to work
[18:32] <Daghdha> vnc
[18:32] <deadmund> newbzilla: this one!
[18:32] <anotheruser> newbzilla, flash isn't supported on linux anymore (adobe is bad)
[18:32] <usr13> newbzilla: This one. (It is usually not like this. Sorry.)
[18:32] <jhourani> usr you dont even know what you're talking about
[18:32] <deadmund> newbzilla: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[18:32] <anotheruser> it's included in google chrome though
[18:33] <MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY COMPUTER WINDOWS BOOTS NO MORE HIGH
[18:33] <marco_> ciao
[18:33] <Moonlightning> !caps | marco_
[18:33] <usr13> jhourani: How do you know?
[18:33] <newbzilla> already tried that one deadmund but ill try again
[18:33] <Moonlightning> whoops
[18:33] <Moonlightning> !caps | MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
[18:33] <Persona24> I've never used Synaptic Package Manager. How do I uninstall things?
[18:33] <jhourani> you're market share comment for one
[18:33] <Daghdha> went to machine and did -now thin
[18:33] <wilee-nilee> MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX, No caps please
[18:33] <W4sp> newbzilla: You came to the right place although at the moment it doesn't look like it.
[18:33] <usr13> Moonlightning: That's enough
[18:33] <deadmund> newbzilla: what does it say?  Give you any errors? It should output a bunch of stuff about downloading it and installing it.
[18:33] <L3top> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer on 1204 I believe newbzilla and deadmund
[18:33] <Moonlightning> usr13: okay, sorry…
[18:33] <deadmund> newbzilla: also, completely stop and restart your browser (firefox)
[18:33] <MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> I DONT SHOUT!!!
[18:34] <Moonlightning> ^ is shouting
[18:34] <deadmund> troll
[18:34] <Persona24> . . . nevermind
[18:34] <W4sp> newbzilla: There is no 'Adobe' flash players supported anymore but alternatives are available.
[18:35] <deadmund> W4sp: newbzilla the flash player that is in there is new enough and at this time will perform waay better than the alternatives (in terms of flash objects on the web will work)
[18:35] <jhourani> last time I will ask then I will go away. ANY experience with graph-based databases in here?!
[18:35] <goddard> jrib: offtopic will yeild nothing i expect
[18:35] <W4sp> deadmund: the latest avalable is 11 on 12.04
[18:35] <deadmund> W4sp: yep
[18:35] <wilee-nilee> jhourani, have you tried ##linux
[18:35] <anotheruser> deadmund, i've had to use the google chrome flash quite a few time actually, because the old flash plugin didn't work anymore
[18:35] <jrib> goddard: yield has nothing to do with it
[18:36] <deadmund> anotheruser: I didn't think chrome used some different flash than the one that was installed on the system
[18:36] <newbzilla> even when i restart the browser it just says plugin has crashed when i try to view pages
[18:36] <jrib> jhourani: ask a specific question (i.e. if someone answers, "yes", what would you then ask)
[18:36] <newbzilla> this is a totally fresh install of 12.04 with the updates
[18:36] <deadmund> newbzilla: what page?  does youtube work?  (so it's installed, it's just crashing)
[18:36] <anotheruser> deadmund, google chrome includes his own flash, that's the only thing supported by adobe now
[18:36] <deadmund> anotheruser: I see
[18:36] <MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> I cry why does not the the
[18:36] <Moonlightning> How can I get the battery status from the command line on a PowerBook G4 running 12.04.1-LTS? I've tried installing acpitool, acpid, and kacpimon, but I still don't have an `acpi` program…
[18:36] <usr13> newbzilla: Do you have google chrome installed?
[18:36] <W4sp> deadmund: From terminal you can run 'apt-get install flashplugin-installer'.
[18:37] <anotheruser> chromium != chrome though, be careful
[18:37] <T|ASK> Hi, how do I get the installed AMD driver version?
[18:37] <W4sp> deadmund: Sorry, wrong nick.
[18:37] <deadmund> W4sp: haha
[18:37] <deadmund> :)
[18:37] <goddard> jrib: on what planet?
[18:37] <newbzilla> and yes, any flash page like youtube says crashed. installed chrome as well and its not either doing the same thing or its just showing an empty black box like a video that dissappears when i hover over it
[18:37] <W4sp> newbzilla: From terminal you can run 'apt-get install flashplugin-installer'.
[18:37] <jrib> Moonlightning: check for some info from /sys/class/power_supply/BAT* though there are probably more user-friendly ways
[18:37] <deadmund> newbzilla: how old is your system?  Do you have some flash stuff open on some other page?
[18:38] <deadmund> W4sp: He already has it installed
[18:38] <usr13> newbzilla: Why did you install chrome?
[18:38] <MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> windows will not boot up wass should I do?
[18:38] <jrib> !ati | T|ASK
[18:38] <deadmund> newbzilla: in a different tab?
[18:38] <Moonlightning> MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX: this is not a Windows support channel.
[18:38] <jrib> MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX: use ##windows for help with windows
[18:38] <usr13> newbzilla: Maybe if you uninstall crhome and fix firefox, you will have a better go
[18:38] <T|ASK> Is there  a list of remommended AMD Drivers for a 'old' 4850 radeon card? I'm not sure which which one may be the best with which kernel ... it's so confusing
[18:38] <BluesKaj> 1grub | MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
[18:38] <llutz> MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX:  /join #ubuntu-de  wenn du hilfe willst und nicht nur ein troll bist
[18:38] <BluesKaj> !grub'
[18:38] <W4sp> deadmund: Sorry mate. It's so noisy tonight - I thought I have cat'ted my kernel. :-(
[18:38] <deadmund> usr13: ?  firefox and chrome are independent of one another
[18:39] <deadmund> W4sp: ummm... it's ok...
[18:39] <MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> next to linux
[18:39] <usr13> deadmund: And your point? _____________?
[18:39] <Daghdha> Oh i asked shutdown huh
[18:39] <anthem> is it possible to search polipo's cache?  the files all seem gzipped, but I would like to have something like a local search engine.
[18:39] <BluesKaj> !grub| MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
[18:39] <MAXXXXXXXXXXXXXX> ubuntu
[18:39] <deadmund> usr13: What is uninstalling chrome going to do?
[18:40] <usr13> deadmund: Simplify the process of getting a browser plugin to work and play flash videos.  (Using Firefox)
[18:40] <kantlivelong> anyone here get ginn workin on 12.04?
[18:40] <MonkeyDust> !info ginn
[18:40] <Moonlightning> jrib: /sys/class/power_supply is empty
[18:40] <newbzilla> alright im uninstalling chrom now and ill try to fix firefox first
[18:40] <kantlivelong> MonkeyDust: yes?
[18:41] <jhourani> jrib: I would ask if they have ever used Neo4j or OrientDB
[18:41] <T|ASK> The Radeon 4850 is a quite good card, but I have always issues with it with Ubuntu 12.04. I don't know which Kernel and driver you would recommend for it...
[18:41] <kantlivelong> MonkeyDust: it launches but does nothing
[18:41] <jrib> jhourani: I don't think you understand my point.
[18:41] <deadmund> newbzilla: one big thing is to make sure all of firefox and flash is dead by looking at top or ps -e
[18:41] <jhourani> I am thinking I dont care much about your point if it doesnt help me out
[18:41] <newbzilla> not sure what u mean deadmund
[18:42] <jrib> jhourani: you're more likely to get help if you just ask your real question
[18:42] <deadmund> newbzilla: When you 'restart firefox' you have to make sure that the processes have ended.  You can do that by seeing if they're listed in top or ps -e  those are both terminal commands.
[18:42] <newbzilla> oh duh, i restarted the whole pc
[18:42] <anotheruser> newbzilla, just install google chrome (not chromium)
[18:42] <anotheruser> flash is included
[18:43] <deadmund> newbzilla: that's more than good enough (completely unnecessary in my opinion).  What are your pc specs?
[18:43] <anotheruser> In February 2012, Adobe announced to discontinue its NPAPI Flash plugin for Linux from version 11.2. Newer versions will not be available from Adobe, but integrated with Google Chrome, using its PPAPI instead.
[18:43] <deadmund> newbzilla: hold off on installing chrome just yet
[18:43] <Mikness> Dum Adobe
[18:43] <newbzilla> yeah i did the chromium thing by mistake yesterday
[18:43] <jhourani> how do I bring an OrientDB graph into Gephi to view it?
[18:43] <jhourani> or Cytoscaper
[18:43] <Moonlightning> jrib: /sys/class/power_supply on my system is empty
[18:44] <jrib> Moonlightning: that's all I know about it
[18:44] <deadmund> newbzilla: chromium is just as good as chrome.  Maybe slightly dated.  But has the user tracking / privacy invasion stuff removed.
[18:44] <anotheruser> deadmund, and the flash support removed.
[18:44] <Mikness> Hey, all. Having an install issue. Want to install on 16GB USB, but gives me an error: "No root file system is defined.  Please correct this from the partitioning menu." Unable to access any 'partitioning menu'. Any thoughts?
[18:45] <newbzilla> neither worked though with flash and now i dont know how to uninstall it. i downloaded chrome.deb and installed that way, but its not showing in software center, where do i find it to remove chrome
[18:45] <L3top> Moonlightning: ls /sys/class/power_supply/         ACAD  BAT0
[18:45] <Moonlightning> L3top: it's empty on my system.
[18:45] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, Use the something other option on install and set the partition /
[18:45] <L3top> I am on a laptop Moonlightning
[18:46] <anotheruser> newbzilla, and chrome didn't work with flash? are you sure? i'd try another time, and be sure not to be in chromium
[18:46] <Moonlightning> This is also a laptop.
[18:46] <jotek> Hello everybody! I want to speed up my pc. What packets are not needed in Xubuntu?
[18:46] <toni> Bot Nick
[18:46] <usr13> newbzilla: uninstall it
[18:47] <wilee-nilee> !pm | Mikness
[18:47] <L3top> Moonlightning: ls /sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/device:00/power
[18:47] <knyn> jotek: You can't just install unneeded packages to speed up your computer.
[18:47] <W4sp> jotek: Uninstalling packages does not speed up your system. The question is what you have running at a given time and if you need it.
[18:48] <robby_> msg robby_ register nqtt1234567 incerti.roberto@libero.it
[18:48] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, I don't do pm's
[18:48] <gyre008> test
[18:48] <Moonlightning> L3top: no on the /sys/devices/LNXSYSTM:00
[18:48] <W4sp> !test | gyre008
[18:48] <Mikness> I don't get to a 'something other' choice. Where do I set the partition? What utility do i use?
[18:48] <Mikness> thanks, not used to this yet
[18:48] <jotek> W4sp: im running on 3ghz celeron with 512mb ram, I cant surf well with mozilla, excepting totally watching movies on Youtube.
[18:49] <knyn> jotek: Upgrade your RAM. :P
[18:49] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, So how are you installing ubuntu on the usb, and from where?
[18:49] <jotek> knyn: im sure it should work good on 512
[18:49] <Mikness> ...the same usb?
[18:49] <jotek> knyn: cause on Windows I hadnt such a problem
[18:49] <knyn> jotek: Use a lighter browser.
[18:49] <Mikness> When booting it gives me the option to try or install
[18:49] <jotek> knyn: for example?
[18:49] <Mikness> I chose install
[18:50] <knyn> Mikness: Both.
[18:50] <xangua> jotek: then use ligher programs, like Midori Browser
[18:50] <AdvoWork> got a predicament.. chrome has borked somehow, ive got a new chrome window being dragged around, i cannot release it, how can i kill chrome or fix this dragging issue? i can get to terminal, but i cant maximize the window so cannot get the pid's of chrome, any ideas?
[18:50] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, please also use nicks tab will complete the nick. You need a seperate cd or usb to install to the usb.
[18:50] <knyn> joket: Let me have a look for you.
[18:50] <jotek> xangua: Midori Brower, huh, interesting
[18:50] <L3top> What exactly are you trying to do Moonlightning
[18:50] <knyn> Midori, that's it.
[18:50] <darkham> i need help
[18:50] <Moonlightning> L3top: I'm trying to get battery status.
[18:50] <darkham> to upgrade mesa drivers on ubuntu 10.04
[18:50] <jotek> Can someone tell me some light programs that will change my actually used?
[18:50] <Moonlightning> As much information as the system can provide, but even just percent remaining will be fine.
[18:50] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, thanks
[18:50] <W4sp> jotek: Your RAM seems to be a bit on the lower end and I suggest to upgrade it. There's also Lubunu with even less hardware requirements than Xubuntu. Also, Firefox is a heavyweight. Consider a different browser. Do not blindly uninstall packages.
[18:51] <knyn> jotek: ?
[18:51] <jotek> W4sp: Lubuntu works worst than Xubuntu here.
[18:51] <glauco29> guy
[18:51] <wilee-nilee> Mikato, no problem the something else option is on the where you want ubuntu gui on the install.
[18:51] <L3top> Moonlightning: you can install acpi
[18:52] <L3top> and get status for many things in terminal
[18:52] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, I'll try using another usb on this one
[18:52] <Moonlightning> L3top: I've tried installing acpitool, acpid, and kacpimon, but I still don't have an `acpi` program.
[18:52] <glauco29> when I start one download on Firefox, my internet speed go very slow, why it?
[18:52] <W4sp> jotek: That's unusual. If you have to run application 'Example' there'a probably not much difference anyway.
[18:52] <L3top> Moonlightning: what version ubuntu are you on?
[18:52] <neta> hi, can someone help me with stardict- i can't use the dictionarys i downloaded
[18:52] <L3top> !info acpi
[18:52] <Moonlightning> L3top: 12.04.1-LTS
[18:53] <L3top> sudo apt-get install acpi           Moonlightning
[18:53] <jotek> W4sp: can I change my startup programs list in any way?
[18:53] <Moonlightning> L3top: package-not-available error
[18:53] <L3top> Moonlightning: then something is wrong with your sources.list. It is right there in universe
[18:54] <W4sp> glauco29: You would need to check if the connection  to the source is fast. Try an alternative hast, if possible.
[18:54] <jotek> W4sp: I dont need "Blueman" for example.
[18:54] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, is fat32 a good idea for an 8GB USB?
[18:54] <glauco29> alternative hast, what is 'hast'? W4sp
[18:55] <W4sp> glauco29: Also, there are speedtests available. However, they are often inconclusive and aim to lure you into a new ISP contract. Beware.
[18:55] <Moonlightning> L3top: okay, how do I fix it?
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, For loading the ISO only yes for a full install no.
[18:55] <Moonlightning> glauco29, W4sp: best speed test is to download a large file. ;)
[18:55] <glauco29> on Windows I can download on firefox and access web normally, on ubuntu it goes slow
[18:55] <digikwondo> hi foks, having trouble converting dmg image file to iso/img through dmg2img i get "error:inflation failed" what do i try now?
[18:55] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, Your wording on the 16 gig suggested a full install is that what you want?
[18:56] <W4sp> jotek: You're at the low end with your hardware, memory is crucial for performance.
[18:56] <glauco29> I am not talking about my internet connection
[18:56] <L3top> Moonlightning: can you please pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list     and also the output of ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[18:56] <glauco29> about ubuntu when I am downloading a file
[18:56] <glauco29> at least on firefox
[18:56] <Moonlightning> L3top: okay, hang on…
[18:57] <glauco29> I get page not found if I try access while downloading
[18:57] <W4sp> glauco29: I see, please change the browser to isolate the issue then.
[18:57] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, I have 2 USBs. 8GB and 16GB. I'm working off the 16 temporarily right now. (Want to be able to operate my system off of either stick while my SSD is getting repaired)
[18:57] <glauco29> ok W4sp, I will try it later
[18:57] <W4sp> glauco29: 'Page no found' is error 404 and has nothing to do with your download link.
[18:57] <glauco29> reload do solve
[18:57] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, so, I'm using the 16 to install on the 8, and vice versa
[18:57] <usr13> glauco29: Try wget
[18:58] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, make sense?
[18:58] <glauco29> how can I use wget usr13?
[18:58] <W4sp> glauco29: Yeah, wget or curl.
[18:58] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, a full install correct?
[18:58] <usr13> glauco29: Choose "Copy Link Location"  and use wget
[18:58] <glauco29> wget or curl to download a file?
[18:59] <Mikness> yes? I believe I already have the ISO on each drive
[18:59] <Moonlightning> L3top: http://pastebin.com/mu8DezLz; /etc/apt/sources.list.d is empty
[18:59] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, Yes? I believe I already have the ISO on each drive
[18:59] <usr13> glauco29:  wget Ctrl-Shift-v
[19:00] <L3top> Moonlightning: very odd. sudo apt-get update         then sudo apt-get install acpi
[19:00] <L3top> Moonlightning: Odd because that should all be correct
[19:00] <Cong> my networkManager is missing
[19:01] <usr13> Cong: sudo apt-get install network-manager
[19:01] <Cong> the icon is not on the top bar
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, you need the iso on one to do full install on the other, boot the usb with the ISO hit the install, and use the something else option on the where you want ubuntu , choose the usb for the install hit change choose ext 4 format and / and then check that gru is going to that usb.from the
[19:01] <Moonlightning> L3top: still getting package-not-available
[19:01] <wilee-nilee> grub*
[19:01] <usr13> Cong: nm-applet
[19:01] <Cong> usr13, I think it's installed. just missing.
[19:02] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, k. Check "format the partition" box?
[19:02] <Cong> usr13, ** (nm-applet:2281): WARNING **: <WARN>  constructor(): Couldn't initialize the D-Bus manager.
[19:02] <trism> Moonlightning: I notice the ports.ubuntu.com in the sources.list, is this arm? acpi only builds on i386 amd64
[19:02] <Moonlightning> trism: It's ppc…
[19:02] <trism> Moonlightning: doesn't build for ppc either
[19:03] <Moonlightning> Yeah…
[19:03] <Cong> usr13, An instance of nm-applet is already running.
[19:03] <Moonlightning> So am I just out of luck?
[19:03] <usr13> Cong: Are you on 12.04?
[19:03] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, I'm concerned that we are not on the same page here,
[19:03] <Cong> nope, 10.04
[19:03] <Mikness> yeah, i think we are
[19:03] <L3top> ahhh good catch trism
[19:03] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, I'm at the editing partition window
[19:03] <Cong> usr13, I the icon from the top bar is missing.
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, did you choose the something else option from the booted ISO usb after hitting the install start?
[19:04] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, chose Ext4 journaling file system
[19:04] <xangua> !panels | Cong
[19:04] <trism> Moonlightning: there may be other ways, do you have upower?
[19:04] <L3top> Moonlightning: ls /proc/acpi      nothing there I guess?
[19:04] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, yeah, was already there
[19:04] <trism> Moonlightning: something like: upower -e; to find a device, then upower -i /path/to/device
[19:04] <Moonlightning> trism: no, I'll try that. Hang on, updates…
[19:04] <usr13> Cong: Well, you could just ditch network-manager for wicd
[19:04] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, gives the option "Format the partition" below where i chose ext4
[19:04] <Moonlightning> L3top: no /proc/acpi either
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, cool so ext4 correct there is a format box there yes, and a dropdown choose /
[19:05] <usr13> Cong: sudo apt-get remove network-manager;sudo apt-get install wicd #And reboot
[19:05] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, yep, done. should I format as well?
[19:05] <L3top> yeah... as trism said... was a waste of a question to ask Moonlightning.
[19:05] <Moonlightning> L3top: huh? o.o
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, then check that grub is pointed at that usb on the main something else screen it is a dropdown.
[19:05] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, yes let it format that usb you are installing to.
[19:06] <L3top> no acpi on non 386 systems Moonlightning. Was a waste of time to look for it.
[19:06] <usr13> Cong: sudo apt-get install wicd;sudo apt-get remove network-manager  #And reboot
[19:06] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, it will wipe that usb.
[19:06] <xangua> Cong: did you already reset the panel¿
[19:06] <Moonlightning> L3top: oh, okay…
[19:06] <Cong> reset didn't work, still the same old same
[19:06] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, file system dropdown:ext4, format partition: check, mount point dropdown: /
[19:07] <Cong> it was there but it vanished when I installed the nic drivers
[19:07] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, "Device for boot loader installation:" shows the correct USB name
[19:07] <Phaba> how do i use pkg_manager?
[19:07] <MortenTemp> Hi, is there any reason _not_ installing Ubuntu 64bit?
[19:07] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, wiping is fine. Should be good to go?
[19:07] <MortenTemp> for _not_*
[19:07] <Moonlightning> trism: yes, I have `upower`, but `upower -e` returns nothing (with exit status 0)
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, yep, and then make sure on the main screen after closing that portion, that grub in its dropdown is pointed at that usb no partition #'s just sda, or sdb what ever the usb is.
[19:08] <abdelghani> any way to do a repartition
[19:08] <abdelghani> ?
[19:08] <Cong> xangua, still here.
[19:08] <Frostbyte> I've got blurry screen / noise / grain after changing to a new monitor, tried to re-install drivers (doesn't fix the issue), tried to install post-release update drivers (jockey ends up with errors), tried to dpkg-reconfigure fglrx.. nothing works.. using Ubuntu 12.04LTS x64 with an ATI card.. Any clue how can I solve this?
[19:08] <zamn> hey basically I made a button for this terminal application on unity and whenever I click on it, it opens a new terminal and runs the program. Is there a way to have it be treated as a seperate program from terminal? Like for example If I hope up another terminal application then it will group with that and I don't want that :x
[19:08] <trism> Moonlightning: hmm, I'm not sure then
[19:08] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, k, thanks a lot. How do I get the current usb (16Gb, with the ISO) installed the same way?
[19:09] <xangua> Cong: already tried to manualy adding the network ¿ nic drivers¿
[19:09] <Cong> xangua, no.
[19:09] <Frostbyte> anyone?
[19:09] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, use the same method with another usb or cd, I would have used the 8 gig or another to install to the 16 gigger personally, just to have the biggest possible for use.
[19:10] <W4sp> Hi Frostbyte :-)
[19:10] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, will probably do that
[19:10] <Frostbyte> hey w4sp, we've got new issues :P
[19:10] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, will a 2GB work, or is that too small?
[19:10] <Moonlightning> Is there any way to use a different console font? I rather dislike all of the available ones…
[19:10] <W4sp> Frostbyte: I knew I could reley on you. ;-)
[19:10] <zamn> how can i figure out what versions of grub I have installed? I have an aching feeling that i have grub 1 and 2 installed..
[19:10] <xangua> Moonlightning: install Myunity to change font settings
[19:10] <Frostbyte> hahaha
[19:10] <L3top> Cong: cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules           do you have any ethernet devices defined there?
[19:12] <SoulBurner> why does this show my damn pictures to everyone?
[19:12] <Cong> L3top, yeah.
[19:12] <SoulBurner> http://192.168.1.87:8080/My_Pictures
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, needs to be at least I believe 4.5 gigs for installer to work on a full install, you can load the ISO to a 1 gigger
[19:12] <Frostbyte> you've got any clue on how I can solve this weird issue, w4sp? :P
[19:12] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, let me rephrase: is a 2GB USB too small to hold the ISO and install to another USB?
[19:12] <Moonlightning> SoulBurner: 192.168.*.* is a local subnet
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, ^^^^
[19:12] <Moonlightning> You can't access it from outside the LAN.
[19:12] <newbzilla> how do i uninstall google chrome on 12.04 after in installed it through a .deb
[19:12] <Moonlightning> xangua: okay, installed `myunity`…now what?
[19:13] <vectorz> newbzilla: dpkg?
[19:13] <theadmin> newbzilla: sudo apt-get remove google-chrome-stable
[19:13] <W4sp> zamn: You can run 'grub-install -v' to figure out what you have installed.
[19:13] <xangua> Moonlightning: open it ans go to the Fonts tab
[19:13] <Moonlightning> xangua: can I do this via the command line? I have a display problem and it's hard to see anything in the GUI.
[19:14] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, k. also got this when I tried install: "You have not selected any partitions for use as swap space." blah blah blah. Do I need to set a swap partition? how big for the 8 and the 16?
[19:14] <SoulBurner> does anyone have a moment to help me figure out why wicd wont connect to wep networks? Im thinking I need a new wireless usb, i can connect to WPA and Open networks just fine but DHCP isnt assigning any ips to WEP networks for some reason. Even when I try manually
[19:15] <Moonlightning> …GUI it is. >.<
[19:15] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, You can use a app called swapspace in ubuntu and avoid the swap partition, not sure if it will hibernate though if you need that.
[19:15] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, after install?
[19:16] <ircrobocop33> fmercafferty
[19:16] <zamn> On a new installation of Ubuntu 9.10 or later with no other installed operating systems, GRUB 2 will boot directly to the login prompt or Desktop. No menu will be displayed.
[19:16] <zamn> grub isnt doing that
[19:16] <zamn> it just sits at the menu :o
[19:16] <ehnde> my firefox fonts are unreadable on a clean install. what can i do to improve this?
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, yeah just run a update and upgrade then sudo apt-get install swapspace  this is a app that will build a swap file as needed, and remove it when not needed.
[19:17] <ehnde> not unreadable, but uncomfortable on the eyes
[19:17] <zamn> ctrl +
[19:17] <zamn> :D
[19:17] <Mikness> wilee-nilee, thanks a bunch!
[19:17] <ThePI> Here's a bot to play with: http://micha.azuru.net/micha/micha.html
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> Mikness, no problem. ;)
[19:17] <systemclient> how can I boot into console mode from a live CD?
[19:17] <zamn> terminal
[19:17] <newbzilla> dang, same question i asked earlier but now i can do it...
[19:18] <W4sp> zamn: A new installation? 9.10 is is three years old?
[19:18] <newbzilla> whats the command for uninstalling google chrome
[19:18] <Moonlightning> xangua: unexpected error from trying to launch myunity…
[19:18] <theadmin> newbzilla: I told you already, sudo apt-get remove google-chrome-stable
[19:18] <newbzilla> thanks theadmin i crashed my console a minute ago and lost the command
[19:18] <zamn> W4sp: its 12.04
[19:18] <systemclient> zamn: do you mean me?
[19:18] <zamn> I mean when i start my computer it just sits at the grub boot screen waiting for me to select the OS
[19:19] <theadmin> systemclient: You normally boot into text mode by appending "text" to your kernel commandine.
[19:19] <theadmin> systemclient: I don't see why livecd would be any different
[19:19] <theadmin> systemclient: But if you want to install through text mode, I suggest the alternate cd
[19:19] <W4sp> zamn: If you had 9.10 it will right boot into your login screen. You have GRUB2 as 9.10 is/was shipped with version 2
[19:19] <systemclient> theadmin: I just want to rescue a very old system
[19:20] <zamn> W4sp: yes but its not doing the behavior it says it would do on thne grub page
[19:20] <theadmin> systemclient: Oh, okay then, uh, may I suggest you the System Rescue CD?
[19:20] <theadmin> systemclient: http://sysresccd.org
[19:20] <systemclient> theadmin: I would need to burn that
[19:20] <newbzilla> ok, my main issue that i was working on earlier was that i cant get flash to run. any help
[19:20] <theadmin> systemclient: Or boot it off a USB
[19:20] <W4sp> zamn: Well then. You would need to describe the problem.
[19:21] <theadmin> systemclient: Though, this is Ubuntu support, I guess I shouldn't suggest Gentoo-based stuff here
[19:21] <Smoth> hello guys, i'have installed ubuntu minimal 12.04. During the boot i see just a black screen, is there any way to restore the normal kernel and daemon messages?
[19:21] <zamn> W4sp: when i start my computer *nothing* is being automatically loaded. Grub 2 just loads up and sits there waiting for me to hit enter to go into an operating system. There isn't even a timer.
[19:21] <systemclient> theadmin: as long as it works, I do not mind
[19:21] <W4sp> zamn: Does it boot when you press enter, does 'tab key' work?
[19:22] <systemclient> theadmin: It is a Pentium 3 Computer. I doubt that it can boot from USB
[19:22] <newbzilla> i cant get flash to work on firefox. what am i doing wrong?
[19:22] <theadmin> Anyway, brb
[19:22] <zamn> W4sp: yes it works fine when I hit enter but I want it to automatically boot into an os
[19:22] <newbzilla> it keeps saying plugin crashed
[19:22] <systemclient> newbzilla: did you install flashplugin-installer?
[19:22] <newbzilla> yes i did, sysclient, how can i verify?
[19:23] <W4sp> zamn: I see. You can check your grub config in /boot/grub/grub.cfg. If WAIT is -1 it will wait for a prompt.
[19:24] <Frostbyte> Can someone take a look at this jockey log exempt? http://pastebin.com/g0hC4kWD I'm trying to figure out why post-release does not install.
[19:24] <zamn> W4sp: there is no 'WAIT' entry in there
[19:24] <newbzilla> when i run sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer it says i already have the newest version
[19:25] <deadmund> newbzilla: hi, I'm back.
[19:25] <W4sp> zamn: Sorry, it is 'GRUB_TIMEOUT'.
[19:25] <newbzilla> hey, thanks deadmund
[19:25] <deadmund> newbzilla: still having problems?  Do you still get that flash is crashing and not just missing right?
[19:25] <newbzilla> yes
[19:26] <deadmund> newbzilla: firefox -> addons -> plugins.  WHat flash is listed there?
[19:26] <tziemann_> windows + L does not lock computer
[19:26] <newbzilla> hold on, im navigating there now
[19:27] <W4sp> zamn: You must run sudo update-grub afterwards. The amoutn is in seconds. 'GRUB_TIMEOUT=30' will give you 30 seconds to respond before it boots into the default.
[19:27] <zamn> W4sp: i have 2 lines that are: set timeout=-1 and 2 lines later set timeout=5
[19:27] <zamn> no GRUB_TIMEOUT
[19:27] <tziemann_> W4sp: I cannot find control panel
[19:27] <W4sp> tziemann_: What desktop environment do you have?
[19:27] <newbzilla> walk me through getting to that, firefox addon plugins
[19:28] <newbzilla> am i doing this with firfox open?
[19:28] <deadmund> newbzilla: open firefox, do you have a firefox button or the traditional file, menu, view, tools menu
[19:28] <tziemann_> ubuntu
[19:28] <deadmund> newbzilla: You're doing it in firefox
[19:28] <newbzilla> i go dashhome > firefox
[19:28] <deadmund> newbzilla: sure, whatever, open firefox however you want :)
[19:28] <zamn> W4sp: err its this:http://pastie.org/4576256
[19:28] <newbzilla> haha right? sorry, im SUPER noob in ubuntu
[19:28] <mcgwiz> Hello. I'm seeking to upgrade my server from 10.04.4 to 12.04.1. When I run 'do-release-upgrade -c' I get "New release 'precise' is available'." However, when I load <http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04.1/> I get a 404, and nowhere on ubuntu.com do I see functioning references to or updated text about 12.04.1. Is there any way I can be certain that 'do-release-upgrade' is specifically referring to 12.04.1, rather than 12.04?
[19:29] <andrewx> Whats best way to identify user via a terminal, between normal user, and sudo-user?
[19:29] <W4sp> zamn: zamn comment the timeout and set GRUB_TIMEOUT as per documentation (see above).
[19:29] <andrewx> 'who' doesn't seem to display different info
[19:29] <newbzilla> the only options for firefox while its open is home, lol
[19:29] <trond-> hi I am trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 12.04.1, but I am getting you have held broken packages - when I run apt-get update I am not getting any error messages - what to do?
[19:29] <andrewx> ah... 'whoami'  lol
[19:29] <v24q1e-b> abend, gibt es für den starter eine möglichkeit den zu pimpen, mit myunity habe ich die hintergrundfarbe ausgeschallten und ihn verkleinert, aber zufrieden bin ich nicht über google habe ich auch nix gescheites gesehen :-(
[19:29] <Frostbyte> Um, can I get some help with that jockey log? (http://pastebin.com/g0hC4kWD - post-release updates don't install)
[19:29] <newbzilla> i have a websearch google bar and address bar but not file or option or anything
[19:30] <deadmund> newbzilla: in the url bar type: "about:addons" without quotes and press enter
[19:30] <newbzilla> thanks
[19:30] <trism> mcgwiz: 12.04.1 isn't actually out yet, although it is expected sometime today (not that it should really matter for an upgrade)
[19:30] <W4sp> tziemann_: That is in system settings, there's an icon with a monitor.
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> trond-, Do you have 10.04 backed up or at least what you can't lose?
[19:30] <deadmund> newbzilla: For the record, the menu for any open app is part of the top panel (like on OS X)
[19:31] <tziemann_> thank you
[19:31] <newbzilla> it says shockwave flash
[19:31] <deadmund> newbzilla: but anyway, you're there, so now look at the plugins and see what type of flash / version you're running
[19:31] <anonymous_> Hello
[19:31] <deadmund> newbzilla: shockware flash version... ?
[19:31] <anonymous_> Anonymous!
[19:31] <mcgwiz> trism: thanks. what do you mean it shouldn't matter for an upgrade?
[19:31] <newbzilla> 11.2 r202
[19:31] <deadmund> newbzilla: mmm, that's the newest version.  What other plugins do you have?
[19:31] <trism> mcgwiz: because the repos already have the upgraded packages, it is just the isos that haven't been updated yet
[19:32] <trond-> sk
[19:32] <mcgwiz> trism: gotcha, thanks much!
[19:32] <moes> zamn, Look in /etc/default/grub
[19:32] <Moonlightning> Is there any way to use a different console font? I rather dislike all of the available ones. I've tried changing it using `myunity`, but the GUI app keeps crashing immediately after launch. Something about getting a string instead of a word, I think. It's hard to tell…
[19:32] <W4sp> tziemann_: In system settings, keyboard you can see in 'shortcuts' and set the desired key combination. Meta4+l for instance
[19:32] <newbzilla> divx web player, djview, icedtea, itunes, libreoffice, quicktime, shockwaveflash, vlc multimedia, windows media
[19:32] <tziemann_> thanks
[19:32] <trond-> wilee-nilee, I haven't done it, but I can definitely do it.
[19:33] <deadmund> newbzilla: mmm, none of that should cause a problem.  Close firefox and open a terminal and pkill firefox  then run firefox in the terminal
[19:33] <zamn> moes: what am i looking for? GRUB_TIMEOUT? its set to 5 right now
[19:33] <newbzilla> do i just type pkill firefox in the term?
[19:33] <deadmund> newbzilla: yes
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> trond-, I would, I would not do a upgrade myself personally but a fresh install, but that is just me.
[19:34] <newbzilla> ok did that, then started through terminal. now try flash or recheck my addons?
[19:34] <deadmund> newbzilla: pkill = process kill  It kills processes by name.  You can view a list of current process' names in ps -e (but you don't need to do that now)
[19:34] <newbzilla> thanks for the info though
[19:34] <trond-> wilee-nilee, since I have these errors, I am considering doing the same. I have the Home partition on it's own, so I really don't need to do much backup.
[19:34] <deadmund> newbzilla: play some flash website and make flash crash and look at the terminal for any errors
[19:36] <newbzilla> its not saying app crash or plugin crash, there is just no video. just a grey page but all the buttons and other videos are present just not the one you want to play
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> trond-, Good I would do the fresh install then.
[19:36] <deadmund> newbzilla: make sure you're testing on youtube.
[19:37] <deadmund> newbzilla: I don't know what is wrong.
[19:37] <freezys> terminal always opened on startup, why? anybody can help me?
[19:37] <newbzilla> yes im on youtube, its just not working haha
[19:38] <T|ASK> Which ATI blob driver works with Kernel 3.5?
[19:38] <deadmund> newbzilla: I'm not sure.  My only other suggestion is to sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree  and then install it again.  Maybe same thing with firefox.  There is also this thread I found: http://askubuntu.com/questions/117127/flash-video-appears-blue
[19:38] <deadmund> newbzilla: Beyond that I do not know
[19:39] <newbzilla> i ran the purge, now type what to reinstall?\
[19:40] <deadmund> newbzilla: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[19:41] <newbzilla> E: package 'flashplugin-nonfree' has no installation candidate
[19:41] <newbzilla> thats what came up
[19:41] <deadmund> newbzilla: oh, poo.  Hang on
[19:41] <theadmin> deadmund: It's been "flashplugin-installer" for a long time now
[19:41] <theadmin> newbzilla: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[19:41] <deadmund> I think we differ on what a 'long time' is :P
[19:41] <BluesKaj> flashplugin-nonfree uses flash 9
[19:41] <deadmund> newbzilla: He's right about the name though
[19:42] <deadmund> BluesKaj: flashplugin-nonfree is not a package anymore
[19:42] <newbzilla> reinstalled checking now
[19:42] <deadmund> newbzilla: k
[19:42] <BluesKaj> it's listed in synaptic, deadmund
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> !find flashplugin
[19:42] <deadmund> BluesKaj: You're right: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=flash&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all
[19:43] <newbzilla> if i could provide you a screenshot i would, but same thing
[19:43] <newbzilla> doesnt say crash anymore, just a grey screen
[19:43] <deadmund> newbzilla: http://www.postimage.org/
[19:44] <newbzilla> lol now how do i screenshot and save it into an uploadable file?
[19:45] <soliloquy1> Does the adwaita theme engine come installed by default on 12.04?
[19:45] <Kroach> how can I convert a plain text file into xml from the command line?
[19:45] <deadmund> newbzilla: search for the screenshot app in the dash.  Save it as any image file (.png is probs the default).  Do I have to explain basic file tree to you?
[19:45] <bekks> Kroach: By editing it and add valid xml formatting.
[19:46] <deadmund> Kroach:  That question does not make sense.  xml is just plain text with <tags> everywhere
[19:46] <newbzilla> probably, im not joking or trying to be stupid but maybe
[19:46] <deadmund> newbzilla: Ok. First take the screenshot.  Do you need help with that?
[19:46] <Kroach> I want to generate tags automaticly, so that quotes get converted into \&quot, etc.
[19:46] <newbzilla> lol i figured that part out, im lucky
[19:47] <deadmund> newbzilla: where did you save it?
[19:47] <newbzilla> http://postimage.org/image/d74lx2qvj/
[19:47] <deadmund> you got it
[19:47] <bekks> Kroach: Thats not necessarily valid XML.
[19:47] <deadmund> deadmund: It looks to me like it just isn't finished downloading the flash player / video.  How fast is your internet connection?
[19:47] <deadmund> Kroach: How does the computer know where to put the tags?
[19:48] <newbzilla> 24megabits
[19:48] <deadmund> newbzilla: that's a value, not a rate.
[19:48] <deadmund> but, if you mean 24 megabits / second, that's fast
[19:48] <newbzilla> yes
[19:48] <Kroach> deadmund: I think it does, when I create a new page in  CMS I enter plain text and it gets converted
[19:48] <deadmund> Kroach: CMS?
[19:49] <bekks> Kroach: Then only the CMS does know where to generally put tags.
[19:49] <bekks> Kroach: Thats absolutely nothing your computer knows.
[19:49] <newbzilla> 24megs down per sec
[19:49] <T|ASK> If i run fgl_gears I get suspicious framerates (very even values) like "300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.000 FPS" is this normal?
[19:49] <Kroach> bekks: isn't there some command-line utility with the same functionality?
[19:50] <bekks> Kroach: No.
[19:50] <newbzilla> ok so yeah, its not downloading still haha
[19:50] <Kroach> damn
[19:50] <Plumblum> first time i notice that there are 3 floodbots :P
[19:50] <newbzilla> sorry, im at work trying to resolve this issue for a customer, cant figure it out but ive also never used ubuntu.
[19:50] <deadmund> newbzilla: I don't know :(
[19:50] <bekks> Kroach: Because only your specific CMS knows where it puts tags at, and unless the author of the CMS provides a CLI tool for doing so, no one else will know it.
[19:51] <Plumblum> anyway, when i want my sql database to accept incoming connections, should i remove bind-aress from the config ?
[19:51] <newbzilla> did i maybe miss anything on the fresh install? i downloaded ubuntu 12.04 and installed on a new hard drive, did all the basics that weve been through and it just wont play flash
[19:51] <Kroach> bekks: oh, that makes sense, I didn't use many CMS so I didn't know, thanks
[19:51] <bekks> Plumblum: No. Yous should configure a valid bind-address, rather than 127.0.0.1
[19:51] <deadmund> newbzilla: can you pastebin the output of your dmesg for me?  paste.ubuntu.org
[19:52] <Plumblum> bekks, im assuming because that is safer ?
[19:52] <deadmund> newbzilla: sorry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[19:52] <deadmund> newbzilla: dmesg is a terminal command
[19:52] <Plumblum> bekks, is there a way to add more adresses to that list ?
[19:52] <bekks> Plumblum: Because thats the only way to control the address your database binds to.
[19:52] <bekks> Plumblum: You have to take a look at the documentation of the database to get that info.
[19:52] <Ascavasaion> I did an upgrade and this new Unity thing in 11.04 has installed a yucky scrollbar on most of my applications.  I then upgraded to a Lubuntu setup, but the scrollbars are still stuffed.  Can someone tell me how to get back to real scrollbars?
[19:53] <Plumblum> bekks, it cant be that hard to tell mysql to allow incoming connections ?
[19:54] <oneselfstanding> hi all
[19:54] <deadmund> newbzilla: You there?
[19:54] <bekks> Plumblum: Just configure a valid bind-address. The advanced configuration of that specific parameter is covered in the documentation.
[19:55] <newbzilla> yes
[19:55] <Plumblum> bekks, but one ip wont do...
[19:55] <newbzilla> what did you mean dsmg or whatever
[19:55] <Plumblum> i guess i have to go through the documentation
[19:55] <deadmund> newbzilla: run dmesg  It's a terminal command.  copy and paste the output here: paste.ubuntu.com  then give me the link
[19:57] <newbzilla> ok sorry, didnt get what u needed but im doing it now.
[19:57] <newbzilla> paste.ubuntu.com/1163290/
[19:58] <newbzilla> did you see what i posted up there?
[19:58] <deadmund> newbzilla: CAn you pastebin lspci -k   for me?
[19:58] <deadmund> newbzilla: (yeah, that was what I wanted).  I don't see anything bad at all...
[20:00] <newbzilla> paste.ubuntu.com/1163296/
[20:00] <Zenigor> I just installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS server edition on VMware ESXi 5.0. I edited /etc/network/interfaces to use a static IP configuration. Now on every boot it states " Waiting for network configuration…" then "waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration…" then "booting system without full network configuration" During this time I can SSH into my server even though it says its booting without its full network config. Once the
[20:01] <deadmund> newbzilla: I was just checking to see what video driver you were using.  I have no idea what the problem is.  :(
[20:01] <Moonlightning> Does Linux automatically defragment the hard disk?
[20:01] <genii-around> !defrag
[20:01] <deadmund> Moonlightning: The ext file system to be exact.  But yeah.
[20:01] <newbzilla> man that kinda stinks, but thanks for all the help. anywhere else i can go to troubleshoot?
[20:01] <Moonlightning> Ooh. Thanks. ^^
[20:02] <deadmund> newbzilla: I posted a link a while ago that seemed to have some answers.  IDK though.  You can ask in this channel more.
[20:02] <newbzilla> thanks broski
[20:02] <deadmund> newbzilla: YOu should mention that it appears as if the flash content is not loaded.  NOT that flash is crashing.  Flash has a very specific crash screen
[20:03] <deadmund> newbzilla: http://www.daniel-ritter.de/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/The-Adobe-Flash-plugin-has-crashed.jpg   which you are not seeing so flash is not crashing
[20:03] <vn> is 12.04.1 out? so I can upgrade my 10.04 servers
[20:03] <deadmund> vn: yep
[20:03] <vn> deadmund: nice, as of when?
[20:03] <deadmund> vn: 12.04 came out in 20_12_ in _04_ (April)
[20:04] <vn> yes, but I meant .1
[20:04] <deadmund> vn: ohhh, sorry, didn't see that.
[20:04] <deadmund> vn: I have no idea about that
[20:04] <vn> k :)
[20:05] <Pici> vn: cdimages are still being tested.
[20:05] <vn> Pici: so it's a matter of days?
[20:05] <deadmund> newbzilla: Do you have a flash or ad block plugin?
[20:05] <Pici> vn: more like hours.
[20:05] <vn> o.O
[20:05] <vn> thanks
[20:07] <newbzilla> im not sure about that, do i check the same way i did for the flash?
[20:07] <deadmund> newbzilla: yeah, but it's in the addons section, not the plugins section
[20:08] <deadmund> newbzilla: in fact, do you have any firefox settings / bookmarks or anything?
[20:08] <newbzilla> nope, fresh install
[20:09] <deadmund> newbzilla: do this: close firefox, run this command mv ~/.mozilla ~/.backup.mozilla  open firefox again, test flash on youtube
[20:10] <newbzilla> mv ~/ (is there a space here) .mozilla?
[20:11] <deadmund> newbzilla: mv ~/(there is no space here).mozilla
[20:11] <deadmund> newbzilla: you can copy / paste this:  mv ~/.mozilla ~/.backup.mozilla
[20:12] <newbzilla> so i type it just like this then       mv ~/.mozilla ~/.backup.mozilla
[20:12] <deadmund> newbzilla: yes  just like that
[20:12] <deadmund> newbzilla: You can try it.  Messing it up won't do anything bad
[20:13] <trond-> newbzilla, or if you want to use nautilus (file manager): First CTRL+H (to show hidden files and folders), then find .mozilla - then right click on it and choose rename - and rename it.
[20:14] <ircrobocop33> is chris pirillo really a puppy?
[20:14] <deadmund> trond-: newbzilla that is the equivalent of the command I gave but using the gui
[20:14] <AdvoWork> I have a 64mb file i'm trying to backup using rsync to another server(its a new server though), i'm doing: rsync -a -u -z -v -e 'ssh -i /home/Scripts/keys/mylocalhost-rsync-key' /var/backups/test_postgresql_backup/mybackup.20120823203622  root@IP:/home/backups_store/new_system/db_backups It says: sent 105 bytes  received 20 bytes  250.00 bytes/sec total size is 66778013  speedup is 534224.10, but no files are transfered, and no errors either. An
[20:14] <AdvoWork> y ideas please?
[20:14] <newbzilla> ah thanks causei  keep getting mv: cannot stat '/home/user/.mozilla; no such file or directory
[20:14] <trond-> deadmund, I know. For some using the shell is daunting.
[20:15] <felix_> Hi there. Today i've got a problem with my mouse and this is really annoying. in Firefox and Writer it scrolls inverted but in Systempreferences and Software center it scrolls normal, like ever before. I tested driver etc. the whole eve but nothing worked. so I would really appreciate if someone could help me with this. Thx and sry for my poor English
[20:15] <ircrobocop33> i fix
[20:15] <ircrobocop33> ed it
[20:15] <deadmund> newbzilla: really?  ARe you on the live CD / live USB ?
[20:15] <deadmund> newbzilla: why is your username 'user' ?
[20:15] <deadmund> trond-: yep, thanks :)
[20:15] <newbzilla> because thats what i named it
[20:15] <newbzilla> lol
[20:16] <newbzilla> also, i have a .backup.mozilla but nothing else that says mozilla
[20:16] <deadmund> newbzilla: oh, you already moved it! :)
[20:16] <newbzilla> haha good then i guess
[20:16] <newbzilla> now what?
[20:16] <deadmund> newbzilla: It was a rename.  It says rename ~/.mozilla to ~/.backup.mozilla so once you have renamed it you can't rename it again.
[20:16] <deadmund> newbzilla: start firefox, test flash
[20:17] <newbzilla> still no luck, i was so happy too :(
[20:17] <newbzilla> grey still
[20:17] <deadmund> newbzilla: mmmm IDK ! :(
[20:18] <newbzilla> this is making me want to /wrist
[20:18] <newbzilla> lolz
[20:18] <deadmund> sar
[20:18] <trond-> newbzilla, have you searched the web for ubuntu firefox flash ?
[20:18] <newbzilla> yes
[20:18] <deadmund> trond-: are you kidding?
[20:18] <newbzilla> i did that yesterday
[20:19] <newbzilla> for several hours, this was my last resort, the chat
[20:19] <deadmund> You'll find about 10,000,120394812304821 different threads all of them people not having any idea what is going on
[20:19] <Moonlightning> If I connect to a server using SSL, could a third party see what port number I'm connecting to?
[20:19] <trond-> newbzilla, should be an easy fix for this though... tried this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/89932/flash-not-working-in-firefox
[20:19] <trond-> deadmund, some are not used to search the web see ;)
[20:20] <newbzilla> reading it now, looks familiar but i dont know if ive read thjis same one. im on a different version of ubuntu
[20:20] <newbzilla> 12.04
[20:20] <newbzilla> not 11
[20:20] <deadmund> newbzilla: do you have any other flash things installed?  gnash or otherwise?
[20:20] <deadmund> trond-: newbzilla we already tried installing uninstalling installing flash
[20:21] <trond-> newbzilla, should be the same approach.
[20:21] <newbzilla> no, fresh install with only what you guys have been telling me to install
[20:21] <vn> so if I want to upgrade my 10.04.4 servers to 12.04.1 is it just dist-upgrade or its something else?
[20:21] <deadmund> newbzilla: open synaptic and search 'flash'
[20:21] <Moonlightning> vn: that confused me too…
[20:21] <Moonlightning> dist-upgrade doesn't update the OS
[20:22] <newbzilla> what synaptic
[20:22] <felix_>  Hi there. Today i've got a problem with my mouse and this is really annoying. in Firefox and Writer it scrolls inverted but in Systempreferences and Software center it scrolls normal, like ever before. I tested driver etc. the whole eve but nothing worked. so I would really appreciate if someone could help me with this. Thx and sry for my poor English. Note: it don't depends on the mouse
[20:22] <Moonlightning> It's like upgrade, but it allows new dependencies to be installed.
[20:22] <GoldStandard> Do you guys think contacting Canon about developing linux drivers for my printer would be worth the time?
[20:22] <deadmund> newbzilla: synaptic is a gui program, search for it in the dash
[20:22] <vn> Moonlightning: so, what does
[20:22] <trond-> newbzilla, follow the directions on that page. Start with the apt-get purge command. This command will remove all files related to flash
[20:22] <Moonlightning> do-release-upgrade
[20:22] <vn> ok, thanks
[20:22] <deadmund> trond-: we already did that
[20:22] <newbzilla> ive already done the purge command and reinstalled, and flashaid is no longer up
[20:22] <deadmund> newbzilla: I have to go :(  Good luck!
[20:23] <newbzilla> thanks
[20:23] <deadmund> newbzilla: I think you should search for flash in synaptic and make sure you have no other flash stuff installed.
[20:23] <Peetee> newbzilla: and what is your problem?
[20:23] <deadmund> newbzilla: good luck! :)
[20:23] <deadmund> Peetee: When he tries to play flash the flash content doesn't load.
[20:23] <newbzilla> flash is not working
[20:23] <deadmund> Peetee: Here is the image he sent me: http://postimage.org/image/d74lx2qvj/
[20:23] <GoldStandard> what are some good tools for ubuntu customization
[20:24] <trond-> newbzilla, http://askubuntu.com/questions/108989/adobe-flash-not-working-in-firefox
[20:24] <soliloquy1> goldstandard: ubuntu tweak, my unity, gtk 2/3 themes
[20:24] <GoldStandard> soliloquy1 ty
[20:24] <newbzilla> i just got an error when trying to run synapticsw
[20:25] <deadmund> newbzilla: ain't no w on the end of it
[20:25] <deadmund> newbzilla: synaptic
[20:25] <Peetee> newbzilla: WHAT ABOUT CHROME?
[20:25] <Peetee> newbzilla: have U tried google chrome?
[20:25] <Peetee> is the problem still?
[20:26] <vn> oh god, I'm reborn since I dumped firefox for chrome..
[20:26] <deadmund> newbzilla: also: sudo synaptic  ;)
[20:27] <Peetee> vn have U tried sources.list with rerouted servers?
[20:27] <Peetee> vn I mean upper distro
[20:27] <OnyxRaven> I'm having trouble finding an answer to this. Is there a good way to install a package (tree) currently in Debian's experimental repository on Ubuntu 12.04?
[20:28] <Peetee> vn I mean automatic mirrors with upper distro
[20:28] <OnyxRaven> specificly http://packages.debian.org/source/experimental/opencv
[20:29] <Peetee> vn precisely: upper distro URL path
[20:29] <Salah> Hi.
[20:29] <Peetee> hi
[20:30] <Peetee> vn it was just experimental idea
[20:30] <vn> Peetee: na, anyway I just started do-release-upgrade
[20:30] <D-coy> o/
[20:30] <vn> back in the days yes, I went in source.list and just changed the version name
[20:30] <Salah> I'm having a strange problem, and no search is finding it. I'd appreciate the help.
[20:31] <Peetee> vn I had always had some problems with dist upgrade, some programs couldn t work anymore after update, but I support innovation
[20:31] <Peetee> Salah: your problem:?
[20:32] <alexbh> hi... does someone have the skype 2.1 in .deb?
[20:32] <vn> Peetee: yea I know the thing...especially with perl, but never got a problem with basic packages
[20:32] <Salah> When I log in to my user, the screen says "Plymouth server disconnected" then puts me back at the login screen.
[20:32] <vn> such as postfix, apache, mysql, pgsql, ...
[20:32] <Salah> This does not happen when logging in to other users.
[20:33] <mm4> hi, I've tried to upgrade to 12.04 but the upgrade process fails every time after downloading 100MB of packages
[20:33] <Peetee> Salah: Have U tried delete bad config files from your account as root?
[20:33] <vn> mm4: maybe hd is full?
[20:34] <Peetee> mm4: is your connection OK?
[20:34] <mm4> yes
[20:34] <mm4> hd is 27% only, intenet is fine
[20:34] <Salah> Peetee: As far as I know there was no trigger. I don't mess around with sudo.
[20:35] <mm4> but last time I was installing some security updates I had to interrupt and since then I cannot upgrade
[20:35] <Peetee> mm4 do U have good sources list? /etc/apt/sources.list? like: deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt natty main restricted universe multiverse
[20:35] <Peetee> deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt natty-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[20:35] <Peetee> deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt natty-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[20:35] <Peetee> deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt natty-security main restricted universe multiverse
[20:36] <FloodBot1> Peetee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:36] <newbzilla> whats the command to install chrome
[20:36] <Salah> If I can access my encrypted home folder from the stuck account I would not mind creating another account.
[20:36] <Peetee> newbzilla: download deb package from google and then in terminal sudo dpkg -i google....deb
[20:37] <Peetee> newbzilla: where deb is the path to deb file
[20:37] <mm4> Peetee yes, I have a lot of sources there
[20:37] <Salah> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-chromium-google-chrome-web-browser-in-ubuntu.html
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> Salah, that is chromium not chrome
[20:38] <mm4> the problem is not downloading the packages but something fails at the end
[20:38] <mm4> is there a console way to upgrade ?
[20:38] <trond-> newbzilla, no progress in flash in firefox?
[20:38] <Salah> wilee-nilee: Isn't Chromium just Chrome for Linux?
[20:38] <Peetee> mm4 and clean installation? I have heard it is sometimes better to do it clean from instCD
[20:39] <Peetee> mm4: of course don t forget to backup your data
[20:39] <newbzilla> no progress in firefox, want to know if chrome has it preinstalled
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> Salah, yes, but the user is trying top install chrome.
[20:39] <mm4> Peetee yes, you're right, I should do that
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> to*
[20:39] <wilee-nilee> Salah, different installs is all. ;)
[20:40] <Salah> Oh. Sorry, then.
[20:40] <trond-> newbzilla, don't think it has... did you get any information on any flash-alike plugins installed when running synaptics?
[20:40] <Salah> So does anyone know how to decrypt a given user's home folder from another account?
[20:40] <newbzilla> i dont know how to use synaptics, it confused me. want to walk me through what im looking for?
[20:41] <Peetee> newbzilla: Have you tried install Adobe Flash plugin in software center?
[20:41] <newbzilla> yes p
[20:41] <Peetee> *to install
[20:42] <Peetee> newbzilla: I don t know if it is true but I have read on one server that Flash is dead project for Linux (correct me anyone if it is not true)
[20:42] <hwkiller-netbook> yes and no
[20:42] <hwkiller-netbook> flash as a standalone plugin is dead.
[20:42] <trond-> newbzilla, let's start here: in Firefox - write about:plugins - See if you have flash there (should say something like shockwave)
[20:42] <hwkiller-netbook> flash in the form of chrome's pepper plugin, no
[20:42] <Salah> Yes, the Flash plugin for Linux is dead, according to several sources.
[20:43] <OnyxRaven> I'm having trouble finding an answer to this. Is there a good way to install a package (tree) currently in Debian's experimental repository on Ubuntu 12.04? specificly http://packages.debian.org/source/experimental/opencv - 2.4.2
[20:44] <W4sp> OnyxRaven: I looked up the project and couldn't find anything. I recommend to contact the developer directly. (Interesting project.)
[20:44] <OnyxRaven> its in debian, can i just add their experimental tree to my sources.list  and do the install? or is that dangerous
[20:45] <W4sp> Salah: Adobe ceased active development for Flash about a year ago. They focus now on HTML5.
[20:45] <xangua> OnyxRaven: please don't mix repositories
[20:46] <W4sp> Salah: That's a good thing given its history of security flaws and Adobe's lack of capabilities to fix it.
[20:46] <hwkiller-netbook> I'm guessing that's a bad idea, W4sp, since ubuntu and debian have very different versions
[20:47] <W4sp> hwkiller-netbook: I'm not suggesting to mix anything. I asked to contact the development team directly.
[20:47] <OnyxRaven> ya
[20:47] <hwkiller-netbook> er oops, W4sp, I highlighted the wrong person
[20:48] <failedassertion> I would like to be able to grub-reboot into the same system with slightly different kernel command line options. i.e., I have an "fsprotect" option, and I want to be able to reboot once without it, and I can't need a KVM to do it
[20:48] <OnyxRaven> looks like there's some PPAs on launchpad
[20:48] <hwkiller-netbook> I meant to address the person asking
[20:48] <Salah> W4sp: Is there a disadvantage to moving to HTML5 ?
[20:48] <W4sp> OnyxRaven: Did you see hwkiller-netbook 's comment re. mixing 'repositories'? hwkiller-netbook is correct highlighting the risks.
[20:48] <newbzilla> sorry for the delay, been through that before though and yes, flash is there
[20:48] <OnyxRaven> I did.  and yeah, i'm not going to do it heh
[20:49] <newbzilla> shockwave flash 11.2 r202 is what i have
[20:49] <failedassertion> So far, I've been using the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX option, so fallback doesn't read-only my partitions
[20:49] <failedassertion> but when I grub-reboot 1
[20:49] <Costeelation> i can create a installation cd with all my modifications and apps?
[20:50] <failedassertion> the friendly recovery menu waits for user input and I can't get past it without a keyboard connected.
[20:50] <W4sp> Salah: Very much so. While Flash is 'free' in the sense it doesn't cost you anything to have a Flashplayer it is not free as in 'Open Source'. HTML5 is to become a standard that is supposed to support other media (movies and such).
[20:51] <Salah> Who's developing HTML5?
[20:51] <jhourani> can I disable root in nautilus? meaning I want to be able to open, copy, and edit files in Nautilus without having to worry about becoming root first
[20:52] <trond-> newbzilla, right. same as I have.
[20:52] <enneract1> Here's a silly one - is there any way to manually map hostname resolution? I'm at work and our local DNS server doesnt want to talk to my machine, I need to map a static local IP to a hostname
[20:52] <guntbert> Salah: that has nothing to do with ubuntu support
[20:52] <failedassertion> enneract1: /etc/hosts
[20:52] <enneract1> failedassertion: thanks ~
[20:52] <jhourani> you guys are ridiculous with the topic thing. If someone has a question let them ask it...geez
[20:52] <failedassertion> enneract1: np
[20:53] <trond-> newbzilla, what is the output of: update-alternatives --list mozilla-flashplugin
[20:53] <violinappren> !ot | Salah
[20:53] <newbzilla> run those one after the other?
[20:53] <Salah> Oh. Sorry then.
[20:53] <recon_lap> what the spanish channel called?
[20:53] <trond-> newbzilla, on one line
[20:53] <bkc_> jhourani: you don't want auto-root... ever... ^^
[20:53] <W4sp> enneract1: I would need to know exactly what your DNS server want to tell your machine.
[20:53] <guntbert> jhourani: not possible in a 1700+ support channel
[20:54]  * knyn is away: I'm busy, message me and I'll reply when back.
[20:54] <enneract1> W4sp: I'm getting SERVFAIL on nslookup
[20:54] <W4sp> !es | recon_lap
[20:54] <violinappren> recon_lap: #ubuntu-es
[20:54] <guntbert> !away > knyn
[20:54] <enneract1> W4sp: this is a windows house, unfortunately. There is me and one other person out of 90-odd people that use linux
[20:54] <newbzilla> /usr/lib/flashplugin-installer/libflashplayer.so
[20:54] <jhourani> bkc_, I just hate the inconvenience. like what if I want to download an application directly to /opt?
[20:54] <jhourani> I should be able to do that
[20:55] <enneract1> and all the windows machines can resolve the hostname
[20:55] <bkc_> jhourani: that's just a bad idea... :/
[20:55] <bugaloo> hi all... i have a old dv2000 laptop running ubuntu 12.04, and when I'm using it on battery the sound keeps "clicking"... it seems to me that sound is in powersafe mode or something and keeps going on and off... still, if i'm playing a mp3 or anything that uses the sound, the problem doesn't happen.. any advice?
[20:55] <jhourani> really? so it is convention to download it elsewhere, unpack or un-tar or whatever, then 'sudo mv' it to /opt?
[20:55] <guntbert> jhourani: that would mean that every web app has full access to your complete system
[20:56] <bkc_> jhourani: what guntbert said...
[20:56] <newbzilla> did yo7u get that last bit i put up?
[20:56] <guntbert> jhourani: how often do you do that?
[20:56] <jhourani> hmm...maybe 2 or 3 times a week?
[20:56] <trond-> newbzilla, hm, same here...
[20:56] <jhourani> just a pain
[20:56] <jagginess> max payne
[20:56] <jhourani> ^haha
[20:57] <guntbert> jhourani: why so often? what are you trying to do with your system?
[20:57] <jagginess> guntbert, too much morphine
[20:57] <jhourani> i am a software engineer...always using new devlopment tools
[20:57] <W4sp> enneract1: That seems to be the response as  a result from a DNS lookup from your machine. Likely that you do not have a FQDN within your office infrastructure. That isn't required but your DNS server must be made aware that his domain is 'somthingelse'.
[20:57] <f00bar80> is there a way or can i mirror any installed ubuntu to another box, and how?
[20:57] <jhourani> constantly downloading stuff seems like lol
[20:57] <violinappren> !tab | jhourani
[20:57] <jhourani> violina chill out
[20:57] <trond-> newbzilla, yup... I have the same path
[20:58] <marsfligth> How can I set full unattended system and applications updates?
[20:58] <violinappren> jhourani: it's hard to follow new questions if you dont specify who you are talking to
[20:58] <guntbert> jhourani: better listen to good advice
[20:58] <enneract1> W4sp: no doubt. Unfortunately, its a windows house, and the windows machines can resolve it, so it isn't going to be fixed.
[20:58] <jagginess> i am a guru.
[20:58] <W4sp> f00bar80: Mirrored servers as in SFTIII isn't supported.
[20:59] <trond-> newbzilla, flash is not working on any sites? Have you been to adobe.com and tested it there?
[20:59] <guntbert> jhourani: as a software engineer it cannot be difficult for you to run that process - and do you realize how many applications are to be found in the repos?
[20:59] <jagginess> trond-, flash for linux is dead.. unless mozilla adopts pepperapi to use chrome's flash releases
[20:59] <W4sp> enneract1: Tha'ts easy then. You can mod /etc/hosts for the few Linux boxes as only your local domain and some hosts withing your office are affected.
[21:00] <trond-> newbzilla, could you check if this site is working for you? http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/
[21:00] <abdelghani> some info please about using backtrack!!
[21:00] <jhourani> guntbert its not that its "hard"...just annoying lol
[21:00] <guntbert> !backtrack | abdelghani
[21:00] <mish-> Hi! - I have a ATI PCI video card that seems to use some of PCI-PCIe bridge, it appears in lspci as "04:00.0 PCI bridge: PLX Technology, Inc. PEX8112 x1 Lane PCI Express-to-PCI Bridge (rev aa)", but isn't detected by the ATI drivers, I'm wondering if anyone has a hint?
[21:01] <violinappren> marsfligth: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/automatic-updates.html
[21:01] <guntbert> jhourani: use the repos then
[21:01] <jhourani> yes I know some can be apt-gotten....but I also use a lot of other tools that arent
[21:02] <guntbert> jhourani: you really should adhere to tested "best practise" - only run a command as root when really necessary
[21:02] <jagginess> I sudo that.
[21:02] <jhourani> ok guntbert i got ya. Just looking to save myself a few minutes a day...you know us lazy engineers :)
[21:03] <jhourani> but good point about web apps having access to my machine...def not a good idea
[21:03] <jagginess> sudo vs "su do".
[21:04] <f00bar80> how to take a full ubuntu system backup
[21:04] <guntbert> jhourani: lets put it this way: you save a few minutes every day and loose hours every month because your system got broken by (put your choice of person/program here)
[21:04] <jagginess> f00bar80, i use sbackup just for /home
[21:05] <W4sp> f00bar80: You can use tar, cpio or dd perhaps?
[21:05] <f00bar80> W4sp, for all the system backup? and how to restore it on a new installation?
[21:05] <jimcooncat> f00bar80: there's partimage too
[21:05] <jhourani> guntbert what is your process for downloading and installing an app?  (not from the repo)
[21:06] <jagginess> jhourani, untarring, autoconf, make, and then use dpkg package tools
[21:06] <violinappren> f00bar80: or you should look into a disk imaging backup solution like http://clonezilla.org/
[21:06] <jagginess> f00bar80 apt-cache search clonezilla
[21:07] <jimcooncat> f00bar80: you're better off using what the system can do for you -- make a list of installed applications, then install those on the target systems. Move your customizations and /home over.
[21:07] <newbzilla> trond- it loaded the page but there were no videos or errors either
[21:08] <jhourani> jagginess, soooo may steps though! haha
[21:08] <jimcooncat> f00bar80: doing it that way will allow the installer to give you drivers for your new hardware, etc.
[21:08] <W4sp> f00bar80: Load the CD and use tar, dd or cpio for a restore. If you want more there is sbackup (python, <shudder>), online services and such.
[21:08] <canerd> list channels
[21:08] <guntbert> jhourani: 1) cd ~/downloads   2) apt-get whatever.tgz  3) tar xzf whatever.tgz  4) less README INSTALL 5) .configure 6) make (or whatever those files tell me) 7) sudo make install
[21:08] <jagginess> f00bar80, there's no point backing up anything outside home, except for third party .debs of course.. packages are always being  updated..
[21:08] <marsfligth> violinappren: Thanks, I already found that, but I'd hope to find a way to use the default Ubutuntu updated service that on security updates it very reliable and silent. I need that because I'm installing many Ubuntu to friends replacing m$, but all of theme have problems on updates/dist upgrade etc. So, maybe editing the 'Ubuntu update security service' configuration file
[21:08] <nethus> Hi everyone.  i have the following question: after logon i see the following message in the console:
[21:08] <jagginess> !mirror
[21:08] <nethus> *** /dev/md1 will be checked for errors at next reboot ***
[21:08] <nethus> *** /dev/md2 will be checked for errors at next reboot ***
[21:08] <nethus> *** System restart required ***
[21:08] <guntbert> jhourani: 4a) cd whatever     was missing
[21:08] <FloodBot1> nethus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:08] <bugaloo> does anybody know how to disable the power_safe mode for the snd_hda_intel module , manually?
[21:08] <jagginess> marsfligth, i'd choose the closest mirror
[21:09] <nethus> what time will the reboot take?
[21:09] <k1l> nethus: depends :)
[21:09] <marsfligth> jagginess: What chanche using a closer mirror?
[21:09] <marsfligth> **change
[21:09] <jhourani> i got ya guntbert...was hoping you had written a magical script that did it all for you
[21:09] <jagginess> marsfligth, the http:// path in sources.list
[21:10] <W4sp> f00bar80: rsync is another option.
[21:10] <jagginess> !sources.list
[21:10] <violinappren> marsfligth: faster full updates instead of only security updates
[21:10] <nethus> k1l: /dev/mda is 450 GB
[21:10] <guntbert> jhourani: :) - my fingers almost do it by themselves - but I rarely need it :)
[21:11] <k1l> nethus: honestly, i cant predict the time
[21:11] <Night-hacks> I just installed cinnamon and i saw gnome classic in the sessions options, was it already there !!? or cinnamon installed it ?!
[21:11] <jhourani> guntbert, lol nice
[21:11] <notwo> Does anyone know any program that does cross browser check on an html file for 12.04?
[21:11] <k1l> Night-hacks: gnome-classic comes with the gnome3 base
[21:11] <jagginess> marsfligth, what country you irc'ing from? (so i can see in the mirrors list what to use)
[21:12] <marsfligth> violinappren: then, just using a close mirror Ubuntu update service changes behavior? This is a news for me.
[21:12] <k1l> Night-hacks: erm, it comes when you install the gnome-shell.
[21:12] <k1l> Night-hacks: its the 2d fallback from the gnome-shell
[21:12] <marsfligth> milan, italy
[21:13] <epinky> !it | marsfligth
[21:13] <nethus> k1l: not even a very rough guess?  will a night be enough?  or are we talking days?
[21:13] <violinappren> marsfligth: it (may) change the speed but not the behavior .. the behavior is determined by the method that you opt to use for automated updates.. be it the software-center provided one, unattended-upgrades or merely a bash script invoked as a cron job
[21:15] <lt_> hi all
[21:15] <jagginess> marsfligth, looks like you can use http://<country-code>.archive-ubuntu.com/ubuntu .. you probably just have to add "it" right after http (i did a geoip test and locates the ip in italy)
[21:16] <jagginess> marsfligth, this method is newer to me (the way i normally used to do it, is replace longer http:// urls from one of the closer mirrors to me)
[21:16] <marsfligth> I'm not interested on italian IRC. I just trying to understand if it's possible to modify the default behavior of the native Ubuntu update service in a way to update all app's and all added ppa's
[21:16] <W4sp> nethus: As it says, after reboot.
[21:16] <jagginess> marsfligth, my typo, it's said to be http://<country-code>.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[21:17] <jagginess> marsfligth, ppa is directly part of ubuntu.. it get's installed manually-- instructions are from the ppa site
[21:17] <jagginess> dam
[21:18]  * jagginess scratches his head
[21:18] <jagginess> marsfligth, meant " is not " part of ubuntu directly
[21:18] <nethus> W4sp: do you mean that the server will first reboot completely, and then starts checking while apache, mysql,... are started?
[21:18] <violinappren> marsfligth: the software center provided update facility SHOULD update everything if set to automatic updates
[21:18] <W4sp> nethus: No. Prior mounting volumes the fsck will take place.
[21:18] <violinappren> marsfligth: which repository gets left behind and not update?
[21:19] <jagginess> marsfligth, /etc/apt
[21:19] <jagginess> software center is slowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[21:19] <nethus> W4sp: ok, thank.  but are we talking hours or days for a volume of 450 GB?
[21:20] <Peetee> jagginess: what does it mean jagginess
[21:20] <jagginess> it means it's slow at anything. so I use apt-get.
[21:20] <Peetee> ok
[21:20] <nethus> W4sp: and can i speed up the process by emptying disk space before?
[21:21] <jagginess> nethus, it'll run for at least 2 hours..
[21:21] <jagginess> nethus, if it needs to be rebuilt
[21:22] <solars> hey, somehow my system is very slow, load avg is 2.xx but there is no process blocking a lot of cpu.. how could I find out what causes this?
[21:22] <marsfligth> ok, I already made a script t cron, and after many tests on different machines all have been success. The only doubt that I still have, is when Ubuntu asks for 'partial upgrade', in that case, I'll be more relaxed if was directly Ubuntu to manage all
[21:22] <marsfligth> **a script to cron
[21:22] <lt__> hi all
[21:22] <W4sp> notwo: AFAIK there is no such thing. There are online tools that provide you with it though. At least you have to deal with gecko and webkit. I always do it manually. If you find something more satisfying please let me know.
[21:23] <jagginess> marsfligth, be careful of ppa's, they can be risky and can cause more breaking than nec.
[21:24] <W4sp> nethus: If you refer to the time fsck requires to check your two HDD I can't tell exactly. I suppose you are concerend about downtimes or interrup in services...?
[21:24] <jhourani> livecoding.io
[21:25] <jhourani> ^put it in your browser...awesome!
[21:25] <jagginess> notwo, you mean to check out an html page with different browsers? only do that online, there are "user-agent" plugins for firefox
[21:25] <marsfligth> jagginess: ok, I know that is risky, but I can't leave the machines w/o app's updates, do you agree wit me?
[21:26] <W4sp> nethus: What's the fs type anyway?
[21:27] <jagginess> marsfligth, actually the security would be vital.. but you should probably set a condition if you're scripting to allow updates. Eg, to have a flagfile to indicate a "go" for an update. (I hear people use "puppet" for this kind of stuff but i never used it)-- you want to have a test machine do an update beforehand.. you don't mass breakage in one shot
[21:27] <Otkrick> guys, find . -type d -printf '%f\n' returns ". dir1 dir2 dir3". How I should remove "." in return? I need in return such as simply "dir1 dir2 dir3"
[21:28] <lt__> hmm
[21:29] <nethus> W4sp: i'm indeed concerned about downtime.  dev/md1 is the root partition (5 of 10G used), /dev/md2 is /home (144 of 450G used). both are ext3
[21:29] <markus__> hallo... i search maybe something what dont exist... but maybe one here have an idea... the guys in the ot channel told me to ask here
[21:30] <markus__> i search some tool to create programms... but no ordinary ide or something...
[21:30] <Dettorer> markus__: vim ?
[21:30] <markus__> so generelly somthing like kexi with a compiler :)
[21:30] <markus__> the tools wich i make are extreme simple but i need complex grafical reports... so 90% of the developing work would be for the reports...
[21:31] <jagginess> markus__, gambas
[21:31] <W4sp> nethus: I see. / Would be quick as there's nothing on it really. /home ..? I don't dare to give you an uneducated guess. :-( What prompted the server to fsck after reboot?
[21:31] <jagginess> markus__, better than VisualC
[21:31] <jagginess> markus__, better than VisualBasic i mean
[21:31] <markus__> i know gambas
[21:31] <jagginess> markus__, then dance
[21:31] <marsfligth> jagginess: some people told me about 'puppet', I had a quick look, but i read that it is commercial for more than ten pc's. In my case, averagely I make on Ubuntu 1 new pc every week more or less, then doing a quick count, I assumed that was not for me. Probabilly it is great for an enterprise
[21:32] <markus__> but it is much work to create diagramms and nice looking graphical prints
[21:32] <sfdsf> ï·’
[21:32] <markus__> and print-preview
[21:32] <jagginess> markus__, oh you're passing them. I thought you were administrating a network.
[21:33] <jagginess> markus__, so use http://it. , a closer mirror .. you don't want slow updates for your customer
[21:33] <markus__> jagginess, ???
[21:33] <markus__> i want to build some apps...
[21:33] <marsfligth> are you quite expert on 'dpkg' and 'apt'? If yes, I paste my script to see how to improve it
[21:33] <jagginess> sory
[21:33] <jagginess> marsfligth.
[21:34] <jagginess> "so use http://it. , a closer mirror .. you don't want slow updates for your customer" < marsfligth
[21:34] <jagginess> (i'm hoping i got it right)
[21:34] <markus__> what i need is a tool that allow me to create input-masks and reports rot the printing....
[21:34]  * jagginess clamps down on his tab
[21:34] <markus__> and that a should be able to compile...
[21:34] <jagginess> markus__, openoffice can do forms
[21:35] <marsfligth> jagginess: no, all pc's are in different places and each one haw own wan ip
[21:35] <markus__> e.g. pagemaker is able to create a DB with reports and forms and then i can export that in a standalone app
[21:36] <W4sp> nethus: Are you there, reading?
[21:36] <nethus> W4sp: i guess that's the script to check the software raid that runs on a regular basis
[21:36] <jagginess> markus__, have a look at "form" making with openoffice. It's powerful if you looked into it. (the oofice application that makes .odb can also work with network databases/tables/queries.. and you can "script" in openoffice too)
[21:36] <markus__> so what i mean is something like openoffice-base or kexi with a compiler
[21:37] <jagginess> markus__, join a oofice list, i'm sure there's all kinds of api's..
[21:37] <markus__> jagginess, ooffice is nice... but not what i need
[21:37] <brookquint> Hello all, I have recently forgotten my Admin account password on my Ubunutu 12.04 lts desktop version, how can I recover it?
[21:37] <markus__> i want to build later from that a programm...
[21:37] <jagginess> markus__, you never used it to it's fully potential my friend..
[21:38] <jagginess> markus__, you can use "online" network databases with it.
[21:38] <jagginess> markus__, and oofice is universal, it's on unix/mac/win/linux..
[21:38] <markus__> jagginess, that is all nice... but not what i search...
[21:38] <jagginess> markus__, essentially the .odb file is like an application.
[21:38] <marsfligth> jagginess: anyway, assuming that I use the script, how to cnon it has root via bash script? I'm finding trouble because it seems that 'crontab' accepts command only written directly by 'crontab -e'. Do you know some way to fix this problem?
[21:39] <jagginess> markus__, what i meant by "list" was a "mailinglist" for openoffice.. there must be millions of APi'S.
[21:39] <markus__> yes but someone can take a look for the logic behind - that i dont want first
[21:39] <markus__> 2nd someone could change something and destroy the system
[21:40] <W4sp> nethus: I see. As the fs is not damages you don't need to run it immediately. If errors are found it can take a two to four hours for ext3 hardware RAID. As yuors is s/w it should be faster.
[21:40] <jagginess> markus__, it's for an end-customer, why bother? they're not paying anymore support if you set this up for them..
[21:40] <markus__> for that i want to compile the projects finally to a closed source app
[21:40] <jagginess> damit
[21:40] <W4sp> nethus: All figures - as said - a guest. What was your estimate?
[21:41] <W4sp> nethus: s/guest/guess
[21:41]  * jagginess mixes mark* and mars* once again :(
[21:41] <jagginess> lol
[21:41] <nethus> W4sp: i really have no clue.  i guessed/hoped it could be done between 1 and 7 am, so less then 6 hours
[21:41] <markus__> jagginess, i want to create financial tools... billing, cost-calculateion, controlling, ...
[21:42] <jagginess> markus__, uh huh..
[21:42] <DeltaWhy> is it possible to change the order of preferred networks in 12.04?
[21:42] <jagginess> markus__, so use a database.
[21:42] <jagginess> if you know how to set one up.
[21:42] <DeltaWhy> it looks like they're just sorted by most recently used in the network manager
[21:42] <nethus> W4sp: but after googling i saw times up to 70 hours for 1,5T, so i'm kinda afraid
[21:42] <markus__> jagginess, what i have now is 95% build with excel and / or access
[21:42] <kantlivelong> hey all.. how can i downgrade a package? i used xedgers and now want to go back to xswat
[21:42] <nethus> W4sp: plus, i don't have physical access to the machine
[21:43] <markus__> to build it in oo-base or kexi is no problem...
[21:43] <markus__> but that i need is later a standalone running programm
[21:43] <jagginess> markus__, excel eh.
[21:43] <W4sp> nethus: If that's your scheduled maintenance window you might be fine. Again, based on findings and the fact that no errors are there. Do you have  a plan whast to do if the box takes longer, does not come up, fsck makes more damage than fixing something?
[21:43] <jagginess> markus__, you. use. openoffice on windows. ok? I DONT CARE ABOUT M$ EXCEL.
[21:43] <W4sp> nethus: I see, can you ssh in?
[21:44] <zoopp> Hi..is zeitgeist really required? What will be affected if I uninstall it?
[21:44] <markus__> no i switched not to linux
[21:44] <markus__> but all my old excel sheets works verry well in OO.org
[21:44] <markus__> and now i want to port the access stuff
[21:44] <markus__> kexi is good
[21:45] <markus__> oo-base too
[21:45] <jagginess> script kiddie
[21:45] <zoopp> Hi..is zeitgeist really required? What will be affected if I uninstall it?
[21:45] <nethus> W4sp: i have full ssh access.  there are of course daily offsite backups, but i can't quickly get a whole server up and running
[21:45] <black_ru> Hello
[21:45] <sideone> hey guys, anyone using logrotate with zip instead of gzip?
[21:45] <k1l> zoopp: the question should be: why would you uninstall it?
[21:46] <zoopp> k1l: to speed up the system..I imagine that all that data collecting is slowing it down.
[21:46] <W4sp> nethus: Maybe you can dd /home onto a different drive prior boot?
[21:46] <zoopp> k1l: I kinda have a performance issue right now.
[21:48] <k1l> zoopp: when its done it should be not slowing down anymore. it is used for the dash suggestions
[21:48] <nethus> W4sp: and in case of a real disaster i should be able to use the web interface of OVH to push a clean and empty ubuntu installation on the machine and rebuild from scratch.
[21:50] <sldkfjsl> Ò
[21:51] <W4sp> nethus: OVH...? Sorry, I don't know what that is. Also, I'm just saying that I saw some risks that you may wish to mitigate. I'm not suggesting in any way that everything will go south. :-)
[21:52] <zanberdo> I need to run chntpw from live ubuntu 12.04 however it's no longer in main line repos.  How can I figure out what repo I need to add in order to install chntpw?
[21:52] <nethus> W4sp: OVH = the owner of the datacenter the server is standing
[21:52] <markus__> noone any idea for my problem???
[21:52] <W4sp> nethus: OK, the French rackspacer.
[21:54] <markus__> i search something to create from the forms and reports of a database a programm
[21:54] <soliloquy1> I'm having trouble theming buttons in my GTK 3 theme - help??
[21:54] <markus__> so short something like kexi or openoffice-base BUT WITH A COMPILER!
[21:54] <W4sp> nethus: I somewhat had the impression the server is within your office. Sorry. But my findings still stand even if it's rented rackspace
[21:55] <goodtime> hello
[21:56] <goodtime> this client is weird
[21:57] <rb46> ciao
[21:57] <rb46> !list
[21:57] <Jarrydx26> Is it better to store my data on a cloud , then on a harddrive that may get damage in a fire ?
[21:58] <k1l> Jarrydx26: that would be a topic for the offtopic channel
[21:59] <mophead> Hey everyone! How do I get rid of the thing in the top left on the screen that brings up the screen changer? I don't know what it's called so I can't google it. I"m in 12.04 with cinnamon, by the way.
[22:00] <k1l> mophead: cinnamon is not supported here. ask the mint guys
[22:00] <Jarrydx26> K1| : okay thanks will have a peek
[22:00] <mophead> k11 do they have a channel?
[22:01] <nethus> W4sp: thanks for all your help. I think I'll take a look into a disaster recovery plan and hardware first, and then go for it.
[22:01] <cellofellow> My touchpad is far to sensitive, the mouse moves too fast, even though sensitivity and acceleration are turned all the way down.
[22:01] <nethus> W4sp: slightly related: i guess i still can install upgrades while i'm not restarting?
[22:03] <dakar> hi
[22:03] <dakar> a question
[22:03] <dakar> is really nescesary firewall ??
[22:04] <schultza> an answer
[22:04] <schultza> yes...
[22:04] <schultza> there is approximately 6+ billing people living on this planet. How many of them do you trust?
[22:05] <k1l> dakar: do you have a real issue?
[22:05] <schultza> Sounds like he needs to reconfigure it to allow something to pass through.
[22:06] <Jarrydx26> Dakar probably shocked @ ubuntu dont need much firewall protection as windows lol
[22:06] <jagginess> dakar, if you have a little "box" router, that is already a firewall for you.. so no need to make a second one on your linux machine
[22:07] <schultza> Again, dakar, what are your specific question(s) about the firewall?
[22:07] <alien64> oh no #ubuntu has turned into a firewall cannel ?
[22:07] <alien64> channel
[22:08] <schultza> There was a partial question about the firewall from dakar. We haven't gotten any more information from him.
[22:09] <schultza> s/gotten/received
[22:10] <usr13> dakar: no
[22:11] <W4sp> nethus: You said that fsck is a routine and not caused by anything else. So it's only a flag set to fsck the partition before you mount it. In theory, you can keep it running as you don't need to reboot. You can also install updates. You said upgrades. What version do you have?
[22:11] <usr13> schultza: Most everyone has a router between them and the Internet and so they dont' need a firewall on the PC.
[22:12] <alien64> yeah if its turned on lol
[22:12] <usr13> schultza: A firewall should be between your PC and the internet, (a separate device). Hince the term "firewall router".
[22:12] <Jarrydx26> Lol there goes dakar eaten by the firewall
[22:12] <MonkeyDust> i have a firewall in my router and ip tables enabled on my pc
[22:13] <alien64> quest has theres turned of by default on the routers they give out
[22:13] <nethus> W4sp: 12.04 LTS
[22:13] <schultza> Or the device that creates another link or connection, like a virtual network. Most of those are configured on the computers themselves for individuals, not organizations.
[22:13] <usr13> MonkeyDust: I have a linux router, (dd-wrt).
[22:13] <Moonlightning> How long are non-LTS releases supported for?
[22:14] <k1l> Moonlightning: 18 month
[22:14] <Moonlightning> Oh.
[22:14] <W4sp> nethus: Then it's only an update, you can install them. See if any SQL engine requires update as well. See doc prior update.
[22:14] <Moonlightning> So if I just get the newest versions when they're released, everything will always still be supported? XD
[22:16] <cellofellow> My touchpad is far to sensitive, the mouse moves too fast, even though sensitivity and acceleration are turned all the way down.
[22:22] <iceroot> Moonlightning: correct
[22:22] <damms005> Pls if I execute:  <dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/my.iso>  Can I mount my.iso?
[22:22] <iceroot> Moonlightning: or you will always use only lts versions and change every two years
[22:23] <iceroot> damms005: yes
[22:23] <jagginess> damms005, why not?
[22:23] <iceroot> damms005: but it would be better to put the iso not directly in /
[22:23] <damms005> iceroot:  <dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/my.iso>  I get error that my.iso is not a block device
[22:24] <iceroot> damms005: from dd?
[22:24] <jagginess> damms005, maybe it's a pcm disk
[22:24] <dynesh> can anyone help me with a internet connectivity issue?
[22:24] <jagginess> damms005, audio cd?
[22:25] <damms005> mount -a  /my.iso  <error: not a block device>
[22:25] <jagginess> damms005, -o loopback
[22:25] <usr13> dynesh: What seems to be the problem.
[22:25] <jagginess> damms005, no need for -a in this case
[22:25] <iceroot> damms005: -a means to mount everysthing inside /etc/fstab
[22:25] <jagginess> damms005, mkdir /mnt/myiso , mount -t auto -o loopback /pathto/my.iso /mnt/myiso
[22:25] <dynesh> i can see high signal strength but no connectivity
[22:26] <damms005> jagginess: Pls what does the -o option does explicitly?
[22:26] <jagginess> damms005, man mount<enter>
[22:26] <iceroot> damms005: -o == option
[22:26] <k1l> damms005: you are using mount with the wrong variables. better have a look into the documentaion
[22:26] <damms005> So loopback will....?
[22:26] <dynesh> usr13 : i can see high signal strength but no connectivity
[22:27] <usr13> dynesh: Wireless?
[22:27] <dynesh> usr13 : yep...
[22:28] <usr13> dynesh: What is the signal report from iwconfig?
[22:28] <dynesh> usr13: i am absoolutely new to ubuntu...so, can u tell me wat to look for in ifconfig?
[22:29] <schultza> he's asking about results from iwconfig (not ifconfig)
[22:29] <usr13> dynesh: iwconfig
[22:29] <dynesh> usr13: it says no wireless extensions
[22:30] <jagginess> i think iwlist is the proper command.
[22:30] <schultza> iwconfig is working for me...
[22:30] <damms005> Pls any java emulatorfor linux?
[22:30] <usr13> dynesh: lspci |grep ireless  #Tell us what wireless chip you have.
[22:31] <dynesh> usr13: AR9285
[22:31] <damms005> Something to run .jar files on Ubuntu (I used to know KEmulator for windows)
[22:32] <jagginess> damms005, yeah there is, apt-cache search webstart
[22:33] <usr13> dynesh: Do you have it connected wirelessly now?
[22:33] <dynesh> usr13: yes it is connected.
[22:33] <usr13> dynesh: Correction:  Do you have it connected via wired connection now?
[22:34] <dynesh> usr13: wired connection isn't working
[22:34] <usr13> dynesh: Do you h ave 12.04 installed?  Is it updated?
[22:34] <dynesh> usr13: yes i have
[22:34] <damms005> jagginess: How do I use it? It just opened some processes (I gues) and exited (command line)
[22:35] <schultza> sudo apt-get install [pkg]
[22:35] <usr13> dynesh: is it a lapotp?
[22:35] <dynesh> yes dell vostro 1014
[22:35] <tziemann__> usr13: gets 2 thumbs up
[22:35] <dynesh> usr13: yep. dell vostro 1014
[22:35] <usr13> tziemann__: I dono what for, but thanks anyway...  :)
[22:36] <tziemann__> we talked earlier about iptables
[22:36] <damms005> jagginess: How do I use it? It just opened some processes (I gues) and exited (command line)
[22:36] <noname120> I m having issues getting my b43 wireless chip working on ubuntu, but this works on backtrack-linuxm do you have an idea how to get it working ?
[22:37] <Moonlightning> What's the difference between desktop and server?
[22:37] <usr13> dynesh: iwconfig |pastebinit
[22:37] <Moonlightning> What nonessential packages are installed by default?
[22:37] <Moonlightning> Can I upgrade from desktop to server?
[22:38] <Moonlightning> Is there a minimal version of Ubuntu?
[22:38]  * Moonlightning /all/ the questions!
[22:38] <dynesh> usr13: pastebinit is not currently installed
[22:38] <bkc_> Moonlightning: sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-server afaik
[22:38] <usr13> Moonlightning: You can just install what ever server software you want.
[22:39] <usr13> dynesh: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[22:39] <bkc_> Moonlightning: for the minimal, afaik they still release ubuntu base :)
[22:39] <Moonlightning> bkc_: huh?
[22:39] <usr13> dynesh: iwconfig |pastebinit  #and send us the resulting URL
[22:40] <usr13> dynesh: (A form of cut-and-paste that you may not know about:  Highlight text, hit middle moues button to dump.
[22:41] <bkc_> Moonlightning: to migrate from ubuntu desktop to server, do sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop; sudo apt-get install ubuntu-server...
[22:41] <Moonlightning> Right, got that.
[22:41] <dynesh> usr13: the laptop isnot connected to the internet, how will it, connect and install pastebinit
[22:41] <Moonlightning> Can I just switch to minimal, though? I have the main desktop version right now…
[22:41] <usr13> dynesh: I thought you just told me that it was connected via wired connection, and that you had done updates on it.  ?????
[22:42] <iceroot> Moonlightning: server is the same as ubuntu but without the gui, everything else is the same
[22:42] <usr13> dynesh: Do you have the switch turned off?
[22:42] <bkc_> Moonlightning: well... minimal is the base-installation... meaning you still have it... if you want a clean minimal, reinstall :/
[22:42] <dynesh> usr13: it has updates which i connected thru my office wifi, this laptop is not even able to connect thru wired connection
[22:42] <Moonlightning> iceroot: okay, thanks
[22:43] <Moonlightning> bkc_: would it be mostly the same if I just uninstalled all the nonessential packages?
[22:43] <dynesh> usr13: is there any router settings that i might have to change?
[22:43] <usr13> dynesh: I'm confused.  I thought you said that the wireless adapter was not working on this laptop?
[22:43] <iceroot> Moonlightning: releases before 12.04 have different kernels for 32bit but with 12.04 only the gui is the difference
[22:43] <usr13> dynesh: You just said that iwconfig reported "No wireless extensions"
[22:44] <everydaylinuxuse> dynesh how are you connected to the internet at the moment. presumably you are using another computer
[22:44] <bkc_> Moonlightning: yes
[22:44] <dynesh> everydaylinuxuse :yes, thru a friends computer
[22:44] <Moonlightning> Hence: [15:37:30] < Moonlightning> What nonessential packages are installed by default?
[22:44] <usr13> everydaylinuxuse: He just told us that he is NOT connected to the internet with the laptop and is using another computer to talk to us.
[22:44] <iceroot> !purelxde | Moonlightning
[22:44] <bkc_> Moonlightning: just apt-get purge <s**t-I-dont-want> and you'll be good to go :)
[22:45] <iceroot> Moonlightning: read that link and do the part to remove the ubuntu packages
[22:45] <Moonlightning> bkc_: right, but I don't know which ones are are essential to the system.
[22:45] <dynesh> usr13: u got the story wrong, im using this chat thru another computer. my laptop is not able to connect in both the ways- wired/wireless
[22:45] <iceroot> Moonlightning: "my"link is showing you the package names
[22:45] <everydaylinuxuse> ok are you sure there isn't a button on the laptop that turns the wireless on and off.
[22:45] <bkc_> Moonlightning: well... I'd suggest a clean install :)
[22:45] <usr13> dynesh: Does the network-manager show any wireless networks?
[22:45] <iceroot> Moonlightning: if that is a fresh installation, reinstall the system with minimal/server
[22:45] <dynesh> yes, it does
[22:45] <usr13> dynesh: Do you see the network-manager?
[22:46] <dynesh> usr13..it does
[22:46] <Moonlightning> bkc_: but if minimal is the same, minus a bunch of packages…
[22:46] <Moonlightning> I can just uninstall those packages…
[22:46] <usr13> dynesh: It shows wireless networks that are available?
[22:46] <Moonlightning> I'm on a neighbor's connection atm, trying not to download much.
[22:46] <iceroot> Moonlightning: minimal is the base of everything
[22:46] <bkc_> Moonlightning: sure... if you know which onew ;)
[22:46]  * W4sp <facepalm>
[22:46] <Moonlightning> bkc_: I don't, though. That's why I'm asking.
[22:46] <smarqle> I'm using Rhythmbox with Lastfm and have a question. When I play artist stations they get saved in  the column on the left, but there seems no obvious way of removing them. I was hoping right clicking would do it. That's how it works with the Lastfm scrobbler client (on windows and Debian when I tried it on those)
[22:46] <dynesh> usr13: yes, and it also shows it is connected, but when i open my browser, i am unable to connect to the web
[22:47] <usr13> dynesh: Open a terminal and type:  ping -c3 av.com    #Tell us if it pings.
[22:47] <iceroot> dynesh: what is the output of "ifconfig" "ping -c 4 8.8.8.8" and "ping -c 4 google.com"
[22:47] <iceroot> !paste | dynesh
[22:47] <bkc_> Moonlightning: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ubuntu-minimal <-- there's the meta-package for minimal, just remove everything that isn't in the "dependency"-list :)
[22:48] <dynesh> usr13: it doesnt respond..no messsages
[22:48] <tziemann__> sudo apt-get install hping3
[22:48] <tziemann__> sudo apt-get install nmap
[22:48] <usr13> dynesh: iwconfig  does not tell you anything?
[22:49] <tziemann__> sudo apt-get install python-scapy
[22:49] <tziemann__> sudo apt-get install metasploit
[22:49] <everydaylinuxuse> and it is the same connection that your friend's computer is using? that is weird
[22:49] <Moonlightning> !flood | tziemann__
[22:49] <iceroot> Moonlightning: download the minimal/netinstall image (40mb) and install the system, everything else will not result in a real miniaml system
[22:49] <dynesh> everdaylinuxuse: yes!!
[22:50] <Moonlightning> Bah. I just installed the system a few days ago…
[22:50] <bkc_> iceroot: if he purges everything except for the things in ubuntu-minimal, then yes... it will be a clean install...
[22:50] <Benguin> http://pastebin.com/EWeqGdyp :C Help! I broke stuff and can't install or upgrade anything
[22:50] <bkc_> s/clean install/minimal install/
[22:50] <dynesh> usr13: in iwconfig, wlan0 gives the name of my ESSID, access point, bit rate n everything
[22:50] <dynesh> usr13: but still im unable to connect
[22:50] <dynesh> to the intermnet
[22:51] <tziemann__> !flood | Moonlightning
[22:51] <iceroot> bkc_: normally that will break the system and will take very very long
[22:51]  * Moonlightning blinks
[22:51] <iceroot> bkc_: because that method is not tested and sometimes there are issues with ubuntu-base
[22:51] <Moonlightning> When did I pastedump a bunch of stuff?…
[22:51] <bkc_> iceroot: and that's why I moved to Arch ^^
[22:52] <usr13> dynesh: ifconfig   #See what IP address you have, and tell us.
[22:52] <Moonlightning> Anyway. Where can I get the minimal image for powerpc?
[22:52] <tziemann__> sorry i thought i was typing into the terminal
[22:52] <bkc_> Moonlightning: tried google? :)
[22:52] <usr13> dynesh: Does it show an IP address?
[22:52] <iceroot> !minimal | Moonlightning
[22:52] <Moonlightning> And, can I just install on top of what I have now, so that I don't have to copy everything over again?
[22:52] <dynesh> usr13: 192.168.1.4
[22:52] <usr13> dynesh: ping -c3 192.168.1.1   #Does it ping?
[22:53] <iceroot> Moonlightning: if you have an extra home partition yes
[22:53] <brookquint> Can anyone assit me with booting into single user mode via init=/bin/bash?
[22:53] <Moonlightning> …I don't. Everything's on one partition… >.<
[22:53] <dynesh> usr13: yes, it says, 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packetloss
[22:54] <usr13> dynesh: cat /etc/resolv.conf   #Tell us what the nameserver IP address is
[22:54] <iceroot> Moonlightning: first, why you want minimal?
[22:54] <Moonlightning> …uhh…
[22:54] <iceroot> Moonlightning: second, why you just dont disable X11 and boot into the shell?
[22:54] <usr13> dynesh: It should probably say;  nameserver 192.168.1.1   #And maybe another, what does it say?  Any other addresses?
[22:55] <Moonlightning> I just don't want a bunch of stuff I'm not going to use. I installed Linux because it's an old computer and I want it to run /fast./
[22:55] <dynesh> it says, 127.0.0.1
[22:55] <iceroot> Moonlightning: it will be the same speed if you dont start X11
[22:55] <Moonlightning> Even just logging in on a tty takes about five seconds, though…
[22:55] <bkc_> Moonlightning: then I'd suggest every single distro, except ubuntu/mint ^^
[22:55] <Moonlightning> I do want a GUI, though, so I can run Firefox|Safari|some-modem-browser
[22:55] <Moonlightning> …argh.
[22:55] <iceroot> Moonlightning: that is more an issue of the bashrc which is big in ubuntu and takes some time
[22:56] <usr13> dynesh: One more test:  route -n   #Tell us if it gives 192.168.1.1  as gateway?
[22:56] <Moonlightning> iceroot: I don't use bash ;)
[22:56] <iceroot> Moonlightning: you want a gui? you said you want minimal
[22:56] <iceroot> Moonlightning: minimal = no gui, the same for server = no gui
[22:56] <bkc_> Moonlightning: ubuntu-minimal doesn't incluge a gui... :/
[22:56] <Moonlightning> Yes, but I can just `apt-get install` the GUI, can't I?
[22:56] <dynesh> usr13: yes,
[22:56] <bkc_> sure
[22:56] <Moonlightning> Well, then~
[22:56] <Moonlightning> ! *
[22:56] <iceroot> Moonlightning: ...
[22:57] <iceroot> Moonlightning: that does not make sense
[22:57] <Moonlightning> …wait.
[22:57] <usr13> dynesh: Ok, for some reason, your friend's router did not give nameserver IP, so you can fix it like this:
[22:57] <Moonlightning> Don't tell me the only difference between main and minimal is the GUI…
[22:57] <bkc_> but why? why not just install LUbuntu/Xubuntu/whatnotBuntu ?
[22:57] <iceroot> Moonlightning: you want to remove the gui and want to install minimal to install a gui then?
[22:57] <bkc_> Moonlightning: basically... yes
[22:57]  * Moonlightning headdesks.
[22:57] <Moonlightning> Well, never mind.
[22:57] <usr13> dynesh: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf    #and add a line at bottom:  nameserver 192.168.1.1
[22:57] <Squarepy> or use a text browser
[22:57] <Moonlightning> How do I make the system in general faster, then?
[22:57] <bkc_> Moonlightning: + some good-to-have gui-apps ...
[22:57] <iceroot> Moonlightning: if you want a light version of ubuntu, try lxde (lubuntu-desktop)
[22:58] <Benguin> :C Help! I broke stuff and can't install or upgrade anything http://pastebin.com/EWeqGdyp
[22:58] <usr13> dynesh: Save and exit and you should be able to brouse the internet.
[22:58] <Moonlightning> Squarepy: text browsers aren't supported by most websites…
[22:58] <bkc_> Moonlightning: remove Gnome/KDE/Xfce and install LXDE... or just a clean openbox :)
[22:58] <Moonlightning> !pm | Nausiicaa
[22:58] <iceroot> !purelxde | Moonlightning
[22:58] <usr13> dynesh: Or, you could try and get the router to give the information:   dhclient wlan0
[22:58] <iceroot> Moonlightning: that will make the system faster
[22:58] <usr13> dynesh: sudo dhclient wlan0
[22:58] <Moonlightning> …oh, okay, thanks.
[22:59] <drag0nius> how to restart connection on interface after changing interfaces?
[22:59] <usr13> dynesh: You could try that first, it may pick up the nameserver IP and edit the file for you.
[22:59] <W4sp> drag0nius: ifconfig <IF> up
[23:01] <usr13> drag0nius: You could just restart the network.  sudo service networking restart
[23:01] <dynesh> usr13
[23:01] <dynesh> usr13
[23:01] <usr13> dynesh: Yes?
[23:01] <drag0nius> stop: Unknown instance:
[23:01] <drag0nius> networking stop/waiting
[23:02] <dynesh> usr13: i tried, rewriting the nameserver and saved but still the issue s not solved
[23:02] <usr13> drag0nius: You could just restart the network.  sudo service networking stop ; sudo service networking start
[23:02] <usr13> dynesh: host av.com
[23:02] <usr13> dynesh: Does it give you any information?
[23:02] <dynesh> usr13
[23:03] <dynesh> usr13: nope
[23:03] <usr13> dynesh: sudo dhclient wlan0
[23:03] <usr13> dynesh: What does ^^^ that do?
[23:03] <dynesh> usr13 : it says, file exists
[23:04] <usr13> dynesh: cat /etc/resolv.conf   #quote to me the last line
[23:04] <dynesh> nameserver 127.0.01
[23:04] <dynesh> 127.0.0.1
[23:04] <Moonlightning> …?
[23:05] <dynesh> usr13: nameserver 127.0.0.1
[23:05] <usr13> dynesh: Edit /etc/resolv.conf  gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf   and change 127.0.0.1  to  192.168.1.1
[23:05] <iceroot> usr13: 12.04 is using a different method for dns
[23:05] <usr13> dynesh: So that you only have one nameserver line and it says   nameserver 192.168.1.1
[23:05] <iceroot> usr13: 127.0.0.1 is correct
[23:05] <usr13> iceroot: Really?
[23:06] <everydaylinuxuse> could it be a firewall issue?
[23:06] <iceroot> usr13: yes, dnsmask or something like that
[23:06] <W4sp> usr13: Probably the DHCP server isn't feeling well. See if resolv.conf.tail can do for you.
[23:06] <dynesh> usr13: i have two lines, one says 192.168.1.1 and the other one says 127.0.0.1
[23:06] <MonkeyDust> dynesh  the first is your router, the second is your pc
[23:07] <iceroot> dynesh: you are using 12.04?
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> 127.0.0.1 islocalhost
[23:07] <MonkeyDust> 127.0.0.1 is localhost*
[23:07] <dynesh> usr13: yes..
[23:07] <usr13> dynesh: remove the one that says 127.0.0.1   (So that you only have one nameserver line that says  nameserver 192.168.1.1 )  (sorry, I told you wrong the first time)
[23:08] <usr13> W4sp: resolv.conf.tail  ?
[23:08] <jdcm> hola
[23:09] <jdcm> necesito alguien que me ayude con un problemita
[23:09] <dynesh> usr13: yes
[23:09] <MonkeyDust> !es
[23:09] <usr13> dynesh: Is it working now?
[23:09] <dynesh> usr13: no
[23:10] <usr13> iceroot: Are you sure?  Is 12.04 using some other file?  If so, what is it?    W4sp ????
[23:10] <ratbert90> j #bash
[23:10] <usr13> iceroot: How is Ubuntu 12.04 resolving domain names?
[23:11] <dynesh> iceroot: yes
[23:12] <iceroot> usr13: man dnsmasq
[23:12] <L3top> usr13: /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[23:12] <jdcm> i need help
[23:12] <iceroot> usr13: thats the way how 12.04 is using dns now
[23:12] <L3top> this is a template which gets dumped to resolv.conf usr13.
[23:12] <L3top> that is why it begins "do not edit this by hand"
[23:12] <iceroot> usr13: resolc.conf will contain 127.0.0.1 were dnsmasq is running and doing its job
[23:12] <usr13> dynesh: ls /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[23:13] <K350> The web-spellcorrector correct english but not my language - Swedish. What to do?
[23:13] <jdcm> i wanna install Linux Kubuntu on my pc, what would i do to keep my files from windows 7?
[23:13] <usr13> dynesh: Does that file exist?
[23:13] <iceroot> usr13: with 12.04 we now have a dns-cache-server on the local machine
[23:13] <dynesh> usr13 :no such file in directory
[23:13] <usr13> iceroot: Then why does dynesh not have that file?
[23:14] <hillshum> jdcm: Have you considering using Wubi?  That's the easiest way, though it does have some limitations
[23:14] <iceroot> usr13: linux mint, not 12.04 or something like that i guess
[23:14] <SkippersBoss> jdcm install Kubuntu next to win7
[23:14] <iceroot> usr13: as usual :)
[23:14] <usr13> dynesh: lsb_release -a  #Tell us what that says.
[23:14] <L3top> usr13: sorry cat /etc/resolvconf/resolve.conf.d/head
[23:14] <jdcm> yes, but i want have only linux
[23:14] <usr13> dynesh: Is it Ubuntu or Kubuntu or Mint or....?
[23:15] <dynesh> ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[23:15] <jdcm> yes hillshum but, it runs only with demo mode
[23:15] <usr13> iceroot: So, what is the deal?
[23:15] <L3top> dynesh: cat /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[23:15] <dynesh> usr13: 12.04 LTS , precise
[23:15] <hillshum> jdcm: Your best option is to put all your files on a USB HDD or something first.
[23:15] <iceroot> usr13: sometimes i am wrong :)
[23:15] <everydaylinuxuse> jdcm. exactly as hillshum said
[23:16] <usr13> iceroot: I'm amazed.  (I've never been wrong!:)
[23:16] <dynesh> usr13: do not edit this by hand
[23:16] <jdcm> :( but i dont have a usb that can have  all mi files
[23:16] <jdcm> ok guys, now i want to know something
[23:17] <usr13> dynesh: Ok, then you DO have the file.  Edit it and place the line in it   nameserver 192.168.1.1  (As the only nameserver line)
[23:17] <everydaylinuxuse> how much data do you have jdcm
[23:17] <jdcm> if i want instal in linux a program from windows how can i do it?
[23:17] <jdcm> i dont know man
[23:17] <usr13> dynesh: gksudo gedit /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[23:17] <jdcm> install*
[23:17] <MonkeyDust> jdcm  use wine
[23:18] <iceroot> !wine | jdcm
[23:18] <usr13> dynesh: And be sure that /etc/resolv.conf  has at least the first nameserver line with address of 127.0.0.1
[23:18] <jdcm> ok wine help me to install all programs from windows?
[23:18] <MonkeyDust> jdcm  not all
[23:18] <MonkeyDust> !appdb | jdcm
[23:18] <usr13> dynesh: (For some reason, your friend's router is not giving out complete IP information)
[23:19] <thufir_> how do I install apache derby ij?  I downloaded derby and installed it to /opt as per http://db.apache.org/derby/papers/DerbyTut/install_software.html  but now what values do I put into /etc/environment?  the apache directions aren't ubuntu specific, they just say "$ export CLASSPATH=$DERBY_INSTALL/lib/derby.jar:$DERBY_INSTALL/lib/derbytools.jar:." but I don't know how to set the path in /etc/environment so that it "keeps"
[23:19] <iceroot> jdcm: you mean from your existing windows-installation? or general how to install a program which is designed for windows on GNU/Linux?
[23:20] <usr13> jdcm: Did you state your question wrong?
[23:20] <MonkeyDust> jdcm  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[23:20] <liox_> help me plis
[23:21] <Moonlightning> !ask | liox_
[23:21] <MonkeyDust> liox_  start with a question
[23:21] <ratbert90> does anybody know how to log both printks and output of a command to a log file using bash?
[23:21] <dynesh> usr13:
[23:21] <liox_> ok
[23:21] <dynesh> the file doesnt have any nameserver line
[23:21] <ratbert90> I can have bash log the output of my command, but the command invokes a bush of printks which aren't logged
[23:21] <usr13> dynesh: Add one
[23:22] <iceroot> ratbert90: command 2> file.txt
[23:22] <ratbert90> iceroot, that works for logging the command, but not the printk's that are invoked
[23:22] <iceroot> ratbert90: the ones which are not picked up at the moment are on STDERR and not STDOUT and > is only covering STDOUT
[23:23] <dynesh> usr13: yep added
[23:23] <usr13> dynesh: You can try and disconnect from the network and re-connect again, but if the router did not give complete IP information before, I doubt that it will now.  So....
[23:23] <usr13> dynesh: Ok does it work?  host av.com
[23:23] <cheus> Is there a way to disable the lock-screen behaviour when a monitor powers down?
[23:23] <usr13> dynesh: or    ping -c3 av.com
[23:23] <dynesh> usr13: no
[23:24] <usr13> dynesh: Did you add line to the /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head file?    nameserver 192.168.1.1
[23:24] <dynesh> usr13: it says, ping:unknown host av.com
[23:25] <usr13> dynesh: ping -c3 68.180.206.184
[23:25] <liox_> I was updating my vps with ubuntu server and the following message appears: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1163540/
[23:25] <dynesh> usr13: let me try to disconnect it and reconnect once?
[23:25] <usr13> dynesh: Does that ^^^  ping?
[23:25] <liox_> plis help me
[23:26] <usr13> liox_: Is this a server of some kind?  Like a mail server?
[23:26] <dynesh> it again says, net unreachable
[23:26] <dynesh> let me disconnect and try again
[23:27] <usr13> liox_: Why are you trying to install clamav ?
[23:28] <dynesh> usr13 : mission failed...still no connectivity, inspit the fact that wifi strength is full
[23:29] <usr13> Can someone pastebinit /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head  so we can see what it is supposed to look like?
[23:29] <liox_> usr13: yes this installed on my vps with ispconfig am trying to update the server and this message
[23:30] <usr13> dynesh: ping -c3 68.180.206.184   #Does it ping?
[23:30] <usr13> dynesh: ping -c3 4.2.2.2   #Does it ping?
[23:31] <W4sp> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1163559/
[23:31] <dynesh> usr13: it still says, net unreachable, 100% packetloss
[23:32] <W4sp> usr13: It is 12.04 as dynesh has.
[23:34] <dynesh> usr13: any hope? any idea? guys im sorry if im eating ur time off..
[23:35] <W4sp> dynesh: My guess is that usr13 is something looking up for you.
[23:36] <dynesh> W4sp : i hope something turns out good...thanks by d way
[23:36] <liox_> usr13: another message when trying to install PHP PEAR: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1163562/
[23:37] <W4sp> dynesh: He'll sort it. :-)
[23:37] <usr13> dynesh: No, that's ok.
[23:38] <dynesh> usr13: :)
[23:38] <trism> liox_: do you have apt-listchanges installed? if so just press q and you should be able to upgrade
[23:38] <ratbert90> ok, different question.  I have a program that invokes a bunch of printk's alongside it's normal output.  Is there a way to log both and save them in a single file?
[23:38] <usr13> dynesh: There should be some way to fix it, but I did not know that Ubuntu 12.04 had changed.  Someone please tell dynesh how to manually insert the nameserver IP.
[23:39] <usr13> dynesh: Did you add line to the /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head file?    nameserver 192.168.1.1
[23:40] <dynesh> usr13, yes i did
[23:41] <dynesh> usr13, now when i tried cat /etc/resolv.conf its nameserver is 192.168.1.1
[23:41] <Aikar> hi, firefox on ubuntu specific question -- my firefox always opens a new window to the homepage when i click on links in other apps, i use to have the issue where it used %u and fixed that by changing to %s in my launchers, and it worked for a while, now this
[23:41] <usr13> W4sp: I just now saw your post,  (had to run next door).  So, that file is NOT where the nameserver IP is kept.
[23:42] <usr13> dynesh: Just edit /etc/resolv.conf file and place nameserver 192.168.1.1  in it (as the only nameserver line).
[23:42] <mamece2> Ive set a hotspot in my laptop, to share wireless internet, two different wireless controllers. I have connected my Iphone to the new hotspot but i cant get IP address
[23:42] <usr13> dynesh: And then do:  ping -c3 av.com   #tell us if it pings.
[23:44] <usr13> dynesh: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf     #So that you have only one nameserver line:  nameserver 192.168.1.1
[23:44] <dynesh> usr13: it is the only line there already
[23:44] <dvdpullmalbogdan> anipanambeanablindfaithbitterpilltrisfineybray
[23:44] <dvdpullmalbogdan> anipanambeanablindfaithbitterpilltrisfineybray
[23:44] <dvdpullmalbogdan> anipanambeanablindfaithbitterpilltrisfineybray
[23:44] <dvdpullmalbogdan> anipanambeanablindfaithbitterpilltrisfineybray
[23:44] <FloodBot1> dvdpullmalbogdan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:44] <dynesh> usr13: but still not pinging
[23:44] <dvdpullmalbogdan> anipanambeanablindfaithbitterpilltrisfineybray
[23:44] <dvdpullmalbogdan> anipanambeanablindfaithbitterpilltrisfineybray
[23:44] <usr13> dynesh: ping -c3 av.com
[23:44] <dvdpullmalbogdan> anipanambeanablindfaithbitterpilltrisfineybray
[23:44] <FloodBot1> dvdpullmalbogdan: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:44] <dvdpullmalbogdan> anipanambeanablindfaithbitterpilltrisfineybray
[23:45] <usr13> dynesh: Ok, change 192.168.1.1  to 4.2.2.2
[23:45] <mamece2> Ive set a hotspot in my laptop, to share wireless internet, two different wireless controllers. I have connected my Iphone to the new hotspot but i cant get IP address. plz help
[23:45] <usr13> dynesh: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf     #So that you have only one nameserver line:  nameserver 4.2.2.2
[23:45] <W4sp> usr13: No, and it is overwritten. resolvconf(8) may suggest to check if  the link valid between /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf and /etc/resolv.conf
[23:45] <MsSayian> whats the command to register my nick on this server. I used swift irc and i think its different. There its /ns register nick pass
[23:46] <dynesh> usr13: done
[23:46] <usr13> W4sp: What?
[23:47] <MsSayian> does anyone know the command to register your nick on this server?
[23:47] <usr13> W4sp: Oh I see.   dynesh ls -l  /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf   #Tell is if it points to another file, such as /etc/resolv.conf
[23:47] <usr13> !register | MsSayian
[23:48] <MsSayian> !register
[23:48] <usr13> W4sp: What does yours say?
[23:48] <W4sp> usr13: Besides, HAs it been discussed that the WiFi IF get's connected? I have a feeling that the hadshare isn't OK and it would be good to know what 802.11 they actually use. Also, if that laptop ever connected successfully to that router.
[23:48] <W4sp> usr13: That's here... ls -la /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[23:48] <usr13> W4sp: Well, he told us that he could ping the router.  192.168.1.1
[23:48] <liox_> trism: yes I can use?
[23:48] <W4sp> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 184 Aug 23 20:54 /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[23:49] <W4sp> Sorry.
[23:49] <dynesh> usr13: it shows /run/resolconf/resolv.conf
[23:49] <W4sp> usr13: with WiFi....?
[23:49] <usr13> W4sp: Does your /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf file have a nameserver IP in it?
[23:49] <usr13> W4sp: Yes.  He said that wlan0 had the essid and that he could ping the router  192.168.1.1
[23:50] <trism> liox_: I do not understand what you are asking
[23:51] <usr13> W4sp: He said that   route -n   showed 192.168.1.1  as gateway.  So he is connected to the network, just not resolving domain names.
[23:52] <W4sp> usr13: I would suggest to focus on wlan0 interface and how we can get it up. I have a feeling the wifi isn't doing fine and the status message isn/t correct. ...as in 802.11g offered but a/b supported.
[23:52] <mamece2> can somebody help me?
[23:52] <mamece2> Ive set a hotspot in my laptop, to share wireless internet, two different wireless controllers. I have connected my Iphone to the new hotspot but i cant get IP address. plz help
[23:52] <W4sp> usr13: Anyway, this is my resolv.conf... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1163582/
[23:52] <usr13> W4sp: But if what he said is true, he is connected.
[23:52] <W4sp> usr13: home is my local network.
[23:53] <W4sp> usr13: OK, let me scoll up, I may have missed it. I had the impression he can't even pint the router's IPADDR.
[23:53] <usr13> W4sp: But there must be a nameserver IP somewhere.  Where is it?
[23:54] <usr13> W4sp: We can ping the router's IP as long as the router is not blocking port 113
[23:54] <usr13> and most dont
[23:54] <W4sp> usr13: ping is UDP and does not use a port.
[23:56] <usr13> W4sp: At any rate, most all routers will return ping requests
[23:56] <usr13> from the inside anyway.
[23:57] <W4sp> usr13: Just a small test to run. Ping the net and see if we get more than .1 back. My nagging doubt may vanish then.
[23:57] <maladore> here is a crazy question usr13 are the wires hooked up right and the modem reset if cable?
[23:58] <maladore> sorry forgot we were wireless connection
[23:58] <W4sp> dynesh: You there...? Could you run the following from the terminal: 'ping 192.168.1.255' and tell us the output, please?
[23:58] <usr13> W4sp: Ping ________?    net?
[23:58] <dynesh> usr13: sure
[23:58] <dynesh> W4sp: yep
[23:59] <usr13> W4sp: 192.168.1.255 ?
[23:59] <W4sp> dynesh: I did a mistake. It's ping -b 192.168.1.255
[23:59] <liox_> trism: how to use apt-listchanges to solve this problem?
[23:59] <W4sp> dynesh: It may take some time so please be patient.