[01:36] <dsan> hi, may somebody be so kind and let me know why my sound does a clicking noise after a while? maybe the sounddriver?
[01:37] <tyche> Is it USB speakers?
[01:50] <em> when is the last time anyone answered a question in here
[01:58] <DeadTOm> I try. I'm not the most knowledgeable.
[01:58] <DeadTOm> Yesterday for me lol.
[02:01] <em> DeadTOm: you're good.
[02:01] <em> DeadTOm: I would also like to help but usually no one asks questions about things I know.
[02:02] <em> DeadTOm: seems like people who have trouble usually have problems about very specialised things.
[02:02] <almigi> lol yeah
[02:02] <em> im not any kind of expert with Linux, much less Kubuntu. Ive only used Kubuntu for four months or so.
[02:03] <em> But I am maybe an apprehensive intermediate with linux in general.
[02:03] <em> Still, most people who have problems ask about the most obscure things.
[02:03] <DeadTOm> I'm not good with drivers or anything like that. I can find my way around kde though.
[02:33] <DarthFrog> Guys, it doesn't matter.  If you can help, help. :-)  the more your help, the better you'll get yourselves.  Solving problems is an excellent way to learn.
[02:43] <DeadTOm> I've managed to help a few people.
[02:46] <em> so i guess that kalarm cannot play a .flac ?
[02:46] <em> is that correct?
[03:43] <David__> hello there! Im the new here
[03:44] <David__> Is anybody there
[04:28] <epsilonorion_> I have Wicd setup on my installation and it will connect to my network.  I am able to get online and download updates, however my internet connection (not network) is lost when I attempt to download items (such as update).  This only happens with my home network
[04:29] <epsilonorion_> though I know it is not my home network since I have another ubuntu system with no issues on the network
[04:29] <epsilonorion_> any ideas
[04:29] <DeadTOm> Is it just your PC that loses the connection or does the whole network lose internet connectivity?
[04:35] <epsilonorion_> just the first pc
[04:35] <epsilonorion_> my other computer (the one I am typing on now) is just fine
[04:35] <DeadTOm> Using wicd on that one as well?
[04:35] <epsilonorion_> DeadTOm: yes
[04:36] <epsilonorion_> and like I said, If I am using a different network, I dont seem to have an issue.
[04:36] <DeadTOm> Now that is odd
[04:36] <DeadTOm> I haven't played with wicd in a long time.
[04:37] <DeadTOm> Not sure it's that though.
[04:38] <DeadTOm> Do you have to reconnect manually or does it come back up on it's own?
[04:38] <epsilonorion_> I have to disconnect and reconnect
[04:39] <DeadTOm> Ok so it claims you're still connected but you can't get out at all?
[04:39] <shadeslayer> epsilonorion_: make sure your driver didn't crash :P
[04:40] <shadeslayer> because for me the b43 driver crashes at times
[04:40] <shadeslayer> and it appears that I'm connected while I'm actually not
[04:40] <epsilonorion_> I tried checking that and it seemed to be fine.  I do not think that simply disconnecting and reconnecting via Wicd restarts the driver
[04:41] <epsilonorion_> DeadTOm: correct
[04:41] <shadeslayer> epsilonorion_: not sure about WICD, but NM does that here
[04:41] <DeadTOm> What kind of ping tests have you done? When it's down, ping an IP and ping a FQDN like google.com. Do both fail?
[04:41] <shadeslayer> the other thing that comes to mind is DNS resolution
[04:41] <epsilonorion_> It shows me still connected, but no connection to the outside
[04:42] <epsilonorion_> ping to google fails
[04:42] <shadeslayer> what about a ping to a IP?
[04:42] <epsilonorion_> internal network is fine, but generic ip externally, no
[04:42] <epsilonorion_> shadeslayer: how would you suggest to check the driver just in case
[04:43] <shadeslayer> epsilonorion_: usually dmesg shows a backtrace
[04:43] <epsilonorion_> yeah, checked that already
[04:43] <epsilonorion_> no dice
[04:43] <shadeslayer> I'm running out of ideas now :P
[04:43] <shadeslayer> interesting that pinging a external ip doesn't work
[04:43] <shadeslayer> tried to run a traceroute?
[04:44] <DeadTOm> Well I was thinking it might just be DNS crapping out but it's definitely losing connectivity altogether.
[04:46] <epsilonorion_> shadeslayer: I did not try traceroute actually, but just did and nothing unusual
[04:47] <epsilonorion_> DeadTOm: that it is, which is why I am slightly confused
[04:47] <shadeslayer> so .. it can reach the IP via traceroute?
[04:47] <epsilonorion_> lol, just as I say that it craps out
[04:47] <shadeslayer> if so, we have entered the domain of lolwot
[04:47] <shadeslayer> ah ok
[04:47] <epsilonorion_> nope, just started getting no replies
[04:47] <shadeslayer> epsilonorion_: define craps out :P
[04:48] <epsilonorion_> shadeslayer: lol, sorry.  Simply ##: no reply
[04:48] <shadeslayer> preferably pastebin
[04:53] <epsilonorion_> shadeslayer: I am actually unable to do a pastebin since the system in question is running server.  I was originally testing TracePath, but switched to TraceRoute.  When working with google.com I get *** at 12, and 13 finishes it out
[04:53] <epsilonorion_> sorry I can't do better
[04:53] <shadeslayer> yeah, that's fine
[04:53] <shadeslayer> that's not crapping out
[04:53] <shadeslayer> *** means it couldn't resolve the address
[04:53] <epsilonorion_> yeah, thought it was, but just seemed traceroute was
[04:53] <shadeslayer> most likely because it's in the Private IP space
[04:53] <epsilonorion_> sorry, tracepath
[04:54] <epsilonorion_> so back up a creak again
[04:54] <DeadTOm> Any chance of an IP conflict? You can get some really whacky behaviour from those.
[04:55] <epsilonorion_> checked and reset all ips just to be sure
[04:55] <shadeslayer> sounds really weird, traceroute works, pinging a internal ip works, pinging a external ip doesn't work
[04:55] <shadeslayer> I most certainly can't come up with a explanation for this :P
[04:58] <susundberg> huh, if pinging internal ip works -> driver works, pinging external ip does not work -> firewall
[04:59] <susundberg> and the firewall/nat/whatever there is connecting the lan to internet lets name queries through, thats why traceroute works or similar?
[05:00] <susundberg> does other machine in the end of same cable work perfectly?
[05:00] <epsilonorion_> well something new that might be useful.  It now seems (or maybe all along and I just missed it) that I can't ping inside my network.
[05:00] <DeadTOm> Ya, that is weird.
[05:00] <DeadTOm> I'm stumped.
[05:00] <epsilonorion_> after doing a clean on dmesg, I did notice a huge amount of frequency checks when connecting to the network
[05:01] <epsilonorion_> sorry about not being able to pastebin, but I get messages cfg80211 followed by information regarding frequencies.  It seems to be normal searching on wicds part
[05:01] <susundberg> (oh and btw, traceroute and ping uses same protocol, so i guess if another goes through then should the other, if the case would be firewall/similar)
[05:01] <epsilonorion_> after this, no error or backtraces when the network falls through
[05:02] <epsilonorion_> susundberg: makes since, they both are ICMP
[05:02] <susundberg> if you are using wireless, first check that connection to your wifi box works fine? if not, suspect driver/ setup ?
[05:03] <susundberg> if suspect driver/box, try with another os ?
[05:03] <epsilonorion_> box is fine, this laptop (second one being used at moment) is fine
[05:04] <susundberg> so only thing that can be faulty is driver?
[05:05] <susundberg> i mean the box works with another machine, the machine you are trying to use works with another os (with the same box?!) ?
[05:05] <epsilonorion_> ok, on a continued note.  After I do a dmesg -C and recreate the issue, I get a new string of messages.  This time, the same cfg80211 message looking for frequencies, but repeated.  It then ends with a ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan0: link becomes ready
[05:05] <epsilonorion_> susundberg: I am just saying that the router itself is not the issue
[05:06] <epsilonorion_> I am not convinced that the drivers on the computer is fine
[05:06] <susundberg> yeah, i also do belive that
[05:07] <susundberg> i have seen wireless drivers that work, at some level, but loose connection in every say 120s
[05:08] <susundberg> though wireless is pain in the ass as there are so many moving parts, and not all wlan boxes are that good either ..
[05:08] <epsilonorion_> susundberg: I thought it may be the case, but the wireless works with a different router
[05:09] <susundberg> try pinging the wlan box and see if the ping goes through nicly for several minutes?
[05:09] <epsilonorion_> it seems to be this computer with my home router.  It works just fine with a 3G router
[05:09] <epsilonorion_> it does
[05:09] <susundberg> if the connection to wlan box works nicely and reliably then its not your drivers but something else
[05:09] <susundberg> like if you have two same IP on the network?
[05:10] <epsilonorion_> thought that too.  Only two computers on network at this moment.  This one and the one in question, both with different ips
[05:10] <susundberg> oh somebody else suggested it too
[05:11] <susundberg> and the box _is tested_ to handle two computers properly?
[05:11] <killown> please, any kubuntu user here could test something for me? if yes, then press right and left button at same time on the desktop and see if it shows the menu from desktop, I am having a issue with this, kubuntu in some way uses emulate3buttons even if xorg.conf tells to not use it
[05:11] <killown> sorry I mean right and left button of the mouse
[05:11] <epsilonorion_> definitely
[05:13] <epsilonorion_> susundberg: shadeslayer: thanks for the help.  I think I am just going to call it tonight and try again tomorrow.  tired of looking at it
[05:13] <susundberg> then i dont know. the fact that ping works to box sounds to me like wlan connection and driver works fine. the fact that connection outside the box dont work properly, definitely sounds like router/box/lan/nat/firewall problem.
[05:14] <susundberg> epsilonorion_: np, good luck with your battle :)
[05:14] <epsilonorion_> thanks
[05:15] <shadeslayer> the frequencies he mentioned are just WLAN regulatory domains that are being updated afaik
[05:15] <shadeslayer> shouldn't affect the performance, I have them in dmesg as well
[05:15] <killown> huh no one wants help me
[05:16] <shadeslayer> killown: works for me
[05:16] <killown> shadeslayer, pressing both at the same time?
[05:17] <shadeslayer> I mean, it shows the menu that a right click would show
[05:17] <shadeslayer> yes
[05:17] <killown> man it's driving me crazy
[05:17] <killown> doesnt work here
[05:18] <killown> if I press both at the same time it reproduces the middle button function
[05:19] <susundberg> does your mouse have middle button?
[05:20] <killown> susundberg, yes
[05:20] <susundberg> hmm, my middle button seems to do nothing ...
[05:20] <killown> susundberg, sure he does
[05:21] <killown> open the terminal and select some word
[05:21] <killown> then try use middle button again
[05:21] <killown> it will paste
[05:21] <susundberg> oh nice, copy&paste
[05:21] <susundberg> what should pressing left and right then do ?:)
[05:22] <killown> should show the menu from right button
[05:22] <killown> since left button on the desktop would do nothing
[05:22] <killown> but for now it's reproducing middle button
[05:22] <killown> this is a function called emulate3buttons
[05:23] <killown> but this is disabled on the xorg.conf
[05:23] <killown> and gnome does not emulate 3 buttons
[05:23] <susundberg> like : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=940446
[05:23] <killown> so I need go to the gnome to play my games
[05:27] <shadeslayer> I ... have no idea what just happened
[05:27] <susundberg> (also googing: http://who-t.blogspot.fi/2011/04/gnome-30-middle-mouse-button-emulation.html )
[05:52] <killown> susundberg, I want get ride of this
[05:52] <killown> useless feature
[06:11] <Navetz> hi I just upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10. Now my laptop wont boot into kubuntu
[06:12] <Navetz> how can I troubleshoot this?
[06:13] <hateball> Well, how far does it get?
[06:14] <Navetz> it just goes black screen after I select to boot into linux instead of windows
[06:14] <Navetz> the laptop fan goes crazy and gets really hot
[06:15] <shadeslayer> Navetz: remove spash and quiet from the boot args in grub
[06:15] <hateball> Navetz: Do you have multiple entries in the grub list? Did you check that you're booting the latest kernel?
[06:15] <hateball> and yeah, do that
[06:15] <shadeslayer> and check how far it goes
[06:17] <Navetz> How do I remove spash and quite from the boot args? I am booting the latest kernel. It has an option for "previous linux version" shadeslayer hateball
[06:17] <shadeslayer> hateball? :P
[06:18] <shadeslayer> anywho, when you get to grub, press 'e' after choosing the latest kernel
[06:18] <shadeslayer> then in the line starting with linux, at the end of it, remove quiet and splash
[06:18] <Navetz> okay found it thanks
[06:20] <Navetz> how do i save in this editor?
[06:20] <shadeslayer> I have to fixup the kubuntu site a bit, so won't be replying for the next 15 minutes or so
[06:20] <shadeslayer> Navetz: just press F10 to boot
[06:21] <Navetz> okay cool i'll wait
[06:21] <Navetz> same issue happening
[06:23] <hateball> Navetz: can you press ctrl+alt+F1 to get a vtty?
[06:23] <Navetz> ill try
[06:24] <Navetz> hum it seems to be booting now.
[06:24] <Navetz> ill let you know what happens lol
[06:26] <ph00rk> !ops
[06:29] <Navetz> I am starting to think that formatting might be my best option
[06:29] <Navetz> i haven't used my kubuntu partition since 10.10 so upgrading to 12.04 will cause me a big headache i think
[06:54] <shadeslayer> Navetz: it shouldn't
[06:54] <shadeslayer> iirc someone tested the upgrade path from 10.04 to 12.04
[06:54] <shadeslayer> I can't recall the results though ....
[06:54]  * shadeslayer is wondering where the DVD ISO's for Kubuntu went
[06:55] <shadeslayer> anyone know about that? I can't seem to find them .. :(
[06:56]  * shadeslayer should also write a release announcement or sth, but too tired
[06:59] <Smurphy> Morning ...
[07:29] <Navetz> got to 12.04 !
[07:30] <Navetz> do i have to delete kdmrc to get the default desktop that would come with a fresh install?
[07:31] <shadeslayer> nope
[07:31] <shadeslayer> if you want a compltely fresh desktop
[07:32] <shadeslayer> delete ~/.kde
[07:32] <Navetz> gotcha thanks!
[07:32] <Smurphy> better - move it to a backup location.
[07:32] <Navetz> also this one is far out there but would you know where I can get touchpad drivers? I have an hp envy 17 and the touchpad doesn't recognize middle or right click
[07:33] <Smurphy> For the kdmrc - it's a different location. Usually it asks you to replace it.
[07:35] <Navetz> backed up and into a clean desktop
[07:36] <Navetz> it's a bit weird, just shows system settings and has a new activity button at the top right
[07:36] <Navetz> is that how the default's suppose to look?
[07:42] <Navetz> wow this search and launch is amazing!
[07:55] <hateball> Navetz: I dont think system settings should launch by default :p
[07:55] <hateball> maybe it remembered your previous session
[08:12] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:04] <mime> hey ppl! i just cant get rid about grey gtk app in kde, all is well seted in systemsettings, and they appear as very ugly, any manual or tweaky way to get THAT UGLY GREYISH appp color please? thanx all
[10:15] <mime> how to get off grey gtk app colorscheme in kde plz!!!
[10:17] <mime> solar system stopped working unexpectly, without touching python, dev, etc, what is happening?
[10:20] <mime> Zzz...
[10:23] <`clouds> hi
[10:24] <`clouds> I have a few questions about development languages available on Kubuntu. Anyone here who can help me with this information?
[10:27] <hateball> !anyone | `clouds
[10:37] <Kovica> If a user is only a member of it's own group why he can still do su SOME_OTHER_USER ?
[10:37] <reynaldo_> JJJ
[10:38] <thelionroars> is there an easy way to change default applications on KD (12.04)? GIMP is currently my default PDF application, Okular would be *slightly* more convenient. By slightly of course I mean much.
[10:38] <reynaldo_> HOLA
[10:38] <thelionroars> *KDE
[10:38] <hateball> thelionroars: alt+f2, "standard applications"
[10:38] <thelionroars> thanks hateball
[10:39] <hateball> thelionroars: PDF is not among them, but rightclicking a PDF will let you change them too
[10:43] <thelionroars> it was 'default applications' on my system. I fixed it by right clicking, thanks. That wasn't obvious though, I had to 'Open With Other Application' and then choose Okular, now it seems it's the default.
[10:44] <thelionroars> There is a config file in the home folder too or something I recall
[11:06] <Kovica> If a user is only a member of it's own group why he can still do su SOME_OTHER_USER ?
[11:15] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[11:17] <Kovica> Hi
[11:54] <BoomerBile> what package is su in?
[11:57] <BluesKaj> BoomerBile, su is not a package , it's root permission
[11:58] <BoomerBile> BluesKaj, it's a program used to get root permissions, i know... but it comes in a package
[11:58] <BoomerBile> probably coreutils
[12:00] <phiscribe> technicaly, there isnt a root user in kubuntu like ubuntu, thus sudo
[12:00] <BoomerBile> nope, actually it's login
[12:00] <BluesKaj> BoomerBile, I see there are some gui applications in synaptic for su
[12:00] <BoomerBile> phiscribe, um... technically there is a root user or you wouldn't be able to use anything as root... the root account is disabled by default but you can enable it with sudo passwd root
[12:01] <BluesKaj> !su
[12:02] <BoomerBile> the account root physically exists in ubuntu, it just has no password so you can't log in... if there was no root account in ubuntu sudo wouldn't work either
[12:02] <phiscribe> well i guess it means what you mean by "technical" its not enabled so...
[12:03] <BoomerBile> i use it all the time... i broke su on my android install of ubuntu... but i found out it's in package login
[12:03] <BoomerBile> first thing i always do in ubuntu, enable root...
[12:04] <BoomerBile> i just don't know ubuntu's package names well, i use gentoo normally
[12:04] <BluesKaj> frankly the su sudo levels in debian were confusing to me when i first tried linux seriously ..the implementataion in ubuntu is more understandable  from the pov of an old windows guy
[12:04] <BoomerBile> haha fixed
[12:04] <BoomerBile> it's in login
[12:06] <BluesKaj> BoomerBile, so care to share what was giving you probs ?
[12:06] <BoomerBile> sure
[12:06] <BoomerBile> i installed ubuntu on my android phone running along side android os
[12:06] <BoomerBile> i had to increase the image file size because i ran out of space
[12:06] <BoomerBile> i made a new disk image using dd
[12:06] <BoomerBile> copied ubuntu to the new image from the old using loop back devices
[12:07] <BoomerBile> it destroyed some suid settings on many programs
[12:07] <BoomerBile> sudo included
[12:07] <BoomerBile> i fixed sudo
[12:07] <BoomerBile> then tried to log in with su
[12:07] <BoomerBile> it said
[12:08] <BoomerBile> su: authentification error
[12:08] <BoomerBile> even with the right password
[12:08] <BoomerBile> so i used the newly fixed sudo to install the login package
[12:08] <BoomerBile> fixed the problem
[12:09] <BoomerBile> now i can compile in c++ on android woot!
[12:09] <BoomerBile> now i just need to get some swap space set up so i can give this android more than 386M of ram
[12:10] <BluesKaj> kinda out of my league , but why :)
[12:10] <BoomerBile> i hate java
[12:10] <BoomerBile> lol
[12:10] <BoomerBile> i'm trying everything i can to get around using it
[12:10] <BoomerBile> i know java, i just don't want to have to write my programs twice to release them for all platforms
[12:10] <BoomerBile> i have windows, linux, and mac covered
[12:10] <BoomerBile> looking to cover android, iphone, etc
[12:13] <BoomerBile> that and i hate using android os... so now i can use all my favorite window managers on my android
[12:14] <BluesKaj> android not your liking ..is it ugly or unconfigureable or ...?
[12:14] <BoomerBile> well, they took something sleek like linux
[12:15] <BoomerBile> and put something stupid like a java application layer on top of it
[12:15] <BoomerBile> so
[12:15] <BoomerBile> linux never crashes
[12:15] <BluesKaj> I obviously don't have a "smart phone" , that's why I'm asking
[12:15] <BoomerBile> but java locks up regularily
[12:16] <BoomerBile> and to make matters even worse
[12:16] <BoomerBile> they use fat32
[12:16] <BoomerBile> ick
[12:16] <BluesKaj> which phone ?
[12:16] <BoomerBile> lol
[12:16] <BoomerBile> which phone doesn't
[12:16] <BoomerBile> was over at my brothers house
[12:16] <BoomerBile> his girlfriends android restarted itself for no reason
[12:17] <BoomerBile> my verizon samsung stratosphere locks up right after boot sometimes
[12:17] <BoomerBile> even with a stock rom and stock kernel
[12:17] <BoomerBile> i can lock up any android in about 5 minutes
[12:17] <BoomerBile> just doing normal things
[12:18] <BluesKaj> ok , I haven't any idea about those devices , I just our cell for quick calls etc  , not a cont\stant user
[12:18] <BluesKaj> use
[12:18] <BoomerBile> yeah, i didn't want an android, but if i want to develop for these phones / devices i have to have something to test it all on
[12:19] <BoomerBile> i got this one free and it cost the same per month as the prepaid service i was using
[12:19] <BoomerBile> so i took it
[12:20] <BluesKaj> why would they use fat32 tho , that
[12:20] <BluesKaj> prctically a legacy fs
[12:22] <BoomerBile> yeah, it is legacy, but all systems can access that format, except maybe macs... all sd cards and hcsd cards and usb sticks use fat32 by default and come pre-formatted with it... so nearly anyone can use them with no knowlege
[12:22] <BluesKaj> ok
[12:23] <BluesKaj> yeah , forgot about usb
[12:24] <phiscribe> its gonna have to change though, the 4gb file limit is approaching fuster cluck levels
[12:26] <phiscribe> plus no journaling is a problem
[12:28] <BoomerBile> yeah, i just tried to put a 4 gig file on fat32
[12:28] <BoomerBile> didn't work
[12:28] <BoomerBile> file size 4.0 G (4096M)
[12:28] <BoomerBile> wouldn't go
[12:28] <BoomerBile> had to reduce it to about 3584
[12:29] <BoomerBile> or 3.5G
[12:42] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[14:04] <gabriel> cambada de filho da puta!!!
[14:05] <gabriel> vai trabalhar porra
[14:05] <bazhang> gabriel, stop that
[14:05] <bazhang> !br | gabriel
[14:06] <gabriel> eu fico na sala que eu quiser porra
[15:06] <tiger1> When an update to 12.04.1?
[15:28] <DeadTOm> Good morning
[16:28] <markus> when my kubuntu is starting up the framebuffer screen looks weird
[16:28] <markus> like broken
[16:28] <markus> system is starting up like normal but it looks broken during startup
[16:28] <markus> is there anything I could do to fix this?
[16:28] <DeadTOm> Describe looking broken
[16:30] <markus> like random pixels. mostly black
[16:38] <shadeslayer> markus: probably a driver issue
[16:39] <markus> shadeslayer: I have nvidia drievr installed
[16:41] <sithlord48> markus:  what isyour problem i dont' have it in my log
[16:42] <shadeslayer> markus: issues like the one you describe are most likely caused by composting which depends heavily on the driver's performance
[16:42] <markus> I im trying this right now: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-the-Big-and-Ugly-Plymouth-Logo-in-Ubuntu-10-04-140810.shtml
[16:43] <shadeslayer> 0.o
[16:43] <sithlord48> oh that plymouth logo is due to properatry driver
[16:43] <shadeslayer> yes
[16:43] <sithlord48> i get same thing if i install the Ati driver.
[17:11] <SaCruM> Someone here knows how to install the game (for linux) Summoning Wars?
[17:14] <shadeslayer> SaCruM: what do they distribute?
[17:14] <SaCruM> shadeslayer: What do you mean?
[17:14] <shadeslayer> debs? standalone binaries?
[17:15] <SaCruM> ah, its a .sh file
[17:15] <SaCruM> the problem is that it needs a ton of other programs first
[17:15] <SaCruM> like OGRE, OIS, lua5.1..
[17:15] <shadeslayer> well
[17:15] <SaCruM> And thats the reall problem for me.
[17:15] <shadeslayer> read the README
[17:15] <SaCruM> I did, it say to install all those things, but i don't really know how to install everything.. :x
[17:15] <shadeslayer> if there's one
[17:15] <shadeslayer> uh
[17:15] <shadeslayer> apt-cache search foo
[17:16] <shadeslayer> sudo apt-get install bar
[17:16] <shadeslayer> rinse and repeat
[17:16] <shadeslayer> or use muon to search
[17:17] <SaCruM> I've tryed everything...
[17:30] <Guest53176> zsdfasdf
[17:45] <SIR_Taco> I wonder when my nvidia driver will stop being stubborn on 12.10 pre-release.....
[18:03] <genii-around> SIR_Taco: I have the same concern. According to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates/+bug/1019079 there is a fix released but I have not seen it yet. Probably keep checking in at #ubuntu+1 for news.
[18:04] <SIR_Taco> genii-around: thanks... I just keep updating here and there and hoping. It's only a testing machine anyway
[19:03] <desonic> Hi! I'm new here. Is there a Greek online to help me figure out a problem I have?
[19:04] <bazhang> !gr | desonic
[19:05] <desonic> Is this place in this channel?
[19:05] <bazhang>  /join #ubuntu-gr    desonic
[19:06] <desonic> This must be the websit of the Greek Ubuntu community. Is it?
[19:06] <bazhang> the irc channel, not the website desonic
[19:07] <desonic> It's my first time here and it's all so ... Greek to me. But I honestly thank you so much for your effort.
[19:15] <desonic> thanks bazhang. I figured out what your effort was about. Tons of thanks!!!!!
[19:45] <KnickKnack> hello all
[19:46] <KnickKnack> new to Quassel, anyone tell me how to retrieve a channel list?
[20:27] <dthacker> hello
[20:29] <SIR_Taco> hi dthacker
[20:31] <dthacker> I'm scanning for wireless connections on my Kubuntu 12.04 install on   my laptop, but I'm not finding my WAP.   How can I verify that Kubuntu is seeing my wireless interface on the laptop?
[20:33] <SIR_Taco> dthacker: you mean if your wireless card driver is loaded? or that it can see/find your access point?
[20:33] <dthacker> I'd like to see if the driver is loaded.
[20:34] <SIR_Taco> dthacker: if you open konsole and type: iwconfig     does it list wlan0 ? or wlanX (where X is a number)
[20:36] <dthacker> wlan0
[20:36] <SIR_Taco> dthacker: ok, what about: iwlist scanning
[20:37] <SIR_Taco> don't paste it here... just let me know if it shows your access point
[20:37] <dthacker> SIR_Taco: wlan0  Failed to read scan data  Network is down
[20:37] <SIR_Taco> dthacker: ok, any idea what your network card is?
[20:39] <dthacker> SIR_Taco: No, the laptop is a Dell D630
[20:40] <dthacker> SIR_Taco: Here we are.  Broadcom 802.11b/g
[20:40] <dthacker> SIR_Taco: BCM4312
[20:41] <dthacker> SIR_Taco:  sorry afk.  dogsitting and dog needs to go out
[20:42] <SIR_Taco> dthacker: no problem... so am I haha
[20:44] <SIR_Taco> dthacker: possibly give this a try? http://askubuntu.com/questions/125529/wireless-doesnt-work-on-a-broadcom-bcm4312
[20:46] <dthacker> SIR
[20:46] <dthacker> SIR_Taco: ok i wll, thanks
[20:46] <SIR_Taco> just try the top answer from that... the packages are in the repos and should be easy to try
[20:48] <epsilonorion_> when using wicd and setting a static ip address, what should i said up the DNS  domain, search, and server1,2,3 values to
[20:53] <epsilonorion_> beyond wicd, anyone who has setup a static ip, what do you use for dns.  I have tried 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 with no luck
[20:55] <SIR_Taco> epsilonorion_: you have to set that up on your router as well. What does your router tell you to put for the dns?
[20:59] <epsilonorion_> 	68.105.28.11
[20:59] <epsilonorion_> I guess should try that
[20:59] <SIR_Taco> yes
[21:01] <epsilonorion_> yeah, being stupid there.  What should I setup for DNS DOmain and search domain
[21:01] <SIR_Taco> shouldn't need to set those, I wouldn't think
[21:02] <epsilonorion_> hmm, i set the dns from the router at the DNS Server 1,2,3, locations, but no joy
[21:02] <dthacker> SIR_Taco: I've loaded the drivers.  I'm looking for the equivalent of the Ubuntu Hardware/Additional drivers icon to activate them.  Where would that be in system center?
[21:02] <dthacker> System Settings that is
[21:04] <SIR_Taco> dthacker: you shouldn't need to. All you should need to do is: sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source && sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-lpphy-installer
[21:05] <SIR_Taco> dthacker: when you reboot, the proper driver should be loaded
[21:06] <dthacker> SIR_Taco: the wifi light is on, that's encouraging.... :)
[21:06] <SIR_Taco> dthacker: good haha
[21:06] <dthacker> SIR_Taco: and there is my WAP.  Thank you very much for your help!
[21:06] <SIR_Taco> epsilonorion_: which router do you have?
[21:06] <SIR_Taco> dthacker: no problem, glad I could help (not bad for 4 beers in :P )
[21:07] <dthacker> hehe
[21:07] <epsilonorion_> netgear, I see where to change it to use the dns, but do not want to lose the ability to get on with Cox
[21:07] <SIR_Taco> epsilonorion_: but you also have to tell the router that you want a certain computer to use a static IP
[21:08] <epsilonorion_> have already done that
[21:09] <SIR_Taco> epsilonorion_: do you know which router you have? i.e. netgear_______?
[21:09] <epsilonorion_> n300
[21:09] <epsilonorion_> wnr2000v2
[21:15] <SIR_Taco> epsilonorion_: http://forum1.netgear.com/showthread.php?t=64828 that looks promising to your problem
[21:43] <Colin969> Kubuntu isn't detecting the built-in wireless hardware, suggestions?
[21:44] <SIR_Taco> any idea what the hardware might be?
[21:45] <Colin969> Its a Toshiba Satellite, if that helps. The laptop
[21:45] <Colin969> Seems to have been working last month, but isn't now. Windows picks it up fine.
[21:46] <monkeyjuice> lspci will give you some info
[21:47] <Colin969> Atheros AR242x
[21:47] <Colin969> Slash AR542x
[21:49] <monkeyjuice> what version you running Colin969
[21:50] <Colin969> 11.10
[21:51] <markit> hi, is there a package that extends the available plasmoids? I.e. I miss a feed reader that can be embedded in the desktop (widget)
[21:52] <SIR_Taco> monkeyjuice:  I had an old 5xxx atheros card... needed Madwifi, not the ath5x driver... probably the problem
[21:54] <SIR_Taco> markit: right click on the desktop, select 'unlock widgets' (if they're locked), right click again on the desktop and select 'add widgets', when the bar comes up, there should be a button that says 'get new widgets'
[21:56] <kubprep> I want to authenticate my PC with my Linksys wireless router but I don't know the password that I setup under Windows. Right now, I have a wired connection to the router (which is how I'm accessing the net right now). Is there a way to transmit the password through the wired connection in Kubunut? So that the wireless connection will work one I disconnect the wire.
[21:57] <monkeyjuice> you can reset the router to default
[21:57] <SIR_Taco> kubprep: do you remember the password for loging into your router? (not the wireless password)
[21:58] <epsilonorion___> SIR_Taco: thanks for the help, git it working
[21:59] <SIR_Taco> epsilonorion___: good to hear, glad I could help
[21:59] <kubprep> no, I don't remember either password. I don't ever remember there was that other password.
[21:59] <markit> SIR_Taco: yep, but the list seems not have a feed reader, for instance, and not beeing a kde package but somethign got from some other source
[21:59] <SIR_Taco> markit: an RSS feed?
[21:59] <SIR_Taco> kubprep: then follow monkeyjuice's advice, you're going to have to hard-reset the router and set it up again
[22:00] <markit> SIR_Taco: I've seen a video about a feed about kde project news for instance
[22:00] <kubprep> thanks monkeyjuice and SIR_TACO
[22:00] <markit> I'm creating a tutorial about kde (in italian) and to show the "newspaper" desktop view I would love to have one to add
[22:01] <SIR_Taco> markit: do you have a widget called "RSS Now"? (not sure what it'd be in Italian
[22:02] <markit> SIR_Taco: nothing with "rss" in its name, sigh. I'm using kubuntu 12.04 just installed (no other packages added)
[22:03] <markit> SIR_Taco: ops, is there!
[22:03] <markit> I searched for "feed", not "rss", thaks a lot!
[22:03] <SIR_Taco> markit: that's what you need for news feeds/updates
[22:05] <beyondcr1> Any way to add kde 4.9 without pulling in anything that will make the system unstable
[22:07] <SIR_Taco> beyondcr1: you can add backports: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.9
[22:07] <markit> SIR_Taco: I'm not used to rss feeds, I've never used so far. If you do use RSSNOW, how is that that kde news are displayed in a circular way, I can't click and have the "last 10" listed for instance
[22:08] <SIR_Taco> beyondcr1: can't say it will be 100% stable though... but it should be
[22:13] <SIR_Taco> markit: http://kubuntu.org/kubuntu.rss is the feed for kubuntu.org (Might want to check the options, you can change the 'switching' time)... it's not the best rss feed reader ever... maybe I should make a new one lol
[22:13] <beyondcr1> Will this pull latest kernel? Becuse last time i did somthing like this a few months ago somthing went wrong if i add the back ports will this update kde everytime a dev release it out?
[22:16] <SIR_Taco> beyondcr1: it may very well update the kernel, yes, I don't know off hand
[22:18] <SIR_Taco> beyondcr1: it will update packages that are from the proposed 12.10, that have been backported to 12.04... whether or not they are safe to install/use depends I guess
[22:19] <markit> SIR_Taco: ok, thanks a lot :)
[22:19] <SIR_Taco> markit: you're welcome
[22:19] <beyondcr1> Ok thanks!
[22:20] <SIR_Taco> beyondcr1: no problem
[22:20] <beyondcr1> Ill be back later tonight
[22:21] <epsilonorion_> is wicd able to connect to a 3G modem, or do I need to use something else?  From online it looks like it is not completely able to
[22:21] <SIR_Taco> epsilonorion_: a usb modem?
[22:21] <epsilonorion_> SIR_Taco: yes, 3g usb modem.  Different situation then what we discussed earlier
[22:22] <epsilonorion_> I have confirmed it to work with network-manger, but was going to try with wicd on this setup
[22:22] <SIR_Taco> I have no experience with usb modems.... unfortunately, but I'll give it a shot
[22:23] <SIR_Taco> so it works with network manager but not wicd?
[22:24] <epsilonorion_> from the looks of it, wicd does not support 3g modems
[22:24] <epsilonorion_> 3g usb modems
[22:24] <epsilonorion_> but yes, it worked just fine with network manager
[22:27] <monkeyjuice> most the forums ive read are saying no epsilonorion_
[22:28] <epsilonorion_> thats what I have seen too
[22:28] <epsilonorion_> was just curious if anyone has had any other luck
[22:28] <epsilonorion_> and didn't want to have to get rid of wicd after setting it up, lol
[22:28] <monkeyjuice> reason is none of the programers of wicd have one ;) lol
[22:28] <epsilonorion_> lol
[22:28] <SIR_Taco> maybe you should send them one.... ;)
[22:29] <epsilonorion_> lol
[22:29] <epsilonorion_> I am placing this on a quadcopter, could just get their gps position and tell it to fly to them
[22:29] <SIR_Taco> or I guess they could just look at the network manager code....
[22:29] <epsilonorion_> lol
[22:29] <epsilonorion_> thanks anyways guys, guess it is time to go back to network manager
[22:31] <SIR_Taco> works just as well
[22:31] <epsilonorion_> pretty much
[22:34] <SIR_Taco> been awhile since I went through that many questions on #Kubuntu :)
[22:34] <monkeyjuice> most the time its very quiet
[22:34] <SIR_Taco> I've noticed that lately
[22:35] <monkeyjuice> ive been hangin out on #freenode ;)
[22:35] <SIR_Taco> haha
[22:36] <monkeyjuice> and #ubuntu is to busy
[22:36] <SIR_Taco> well... there's a good reason for that one
[22:36] <monkeyjuice> something called unity?
[22:36] <SIR_Taco> exactly
[22:36] <monkeyjuice> wow good guess
[22:37] <markit> I'm reading an article about folder view and "Shelf", seems is not available on 12.04 or again I'm wrong?
[22:37] <SIR_Taco> looked into it, haven't tried it, don't wish to know enough about it to support it lol
[22:38] <SIR_Taco> markit: 'self'?
[22:38] <markit> soundray: http://maketecheasier.com/easy-organization-with-kde-plasma-shelf-widget/2010/11/10
[22:39] <markit> ops
[22:39] <markit> SIR_Taco: :)
[22:40] <SIR_Taco> oh.. shelf lol
[22:42] <markit> SIR_Taco: FOlder view is Shelf? or is a different widget? I'm confused now
[22:43] <markit> "With Shelf, you can have launchable icons for anything, organized in nice rows on your workspace" (http://maketecheasier.com/7-ways-to-beautify-your-kde-4-desktop/2010/12/08 paragraph 7)
[22:44] <SIR_Taco> markit: that is from 2010... I believe it has been replaced with the widget 'quick launch'
[22:45] <markit> let me see, thanks for the tip
[22:45] <SIR_Taco> markit: it gives you icons on your taskbar like you would have in windows 7 'pinning to taskbar'
[22:46] <markit> ah, I've tested it thanks
[22:46] <markit> is not a widget, but a feature of the taskbar
[22:46] <markit> mmmm I want to explain how to remove the bad habbit by M$people of the cluttered desktop
[22:46] <markit> but I need something more effective to group application launcher
[22:47] <markit> the taskbar is not wide enough ;P
[22:47] <markit> nor the bottom panel
[22:47] <skreech_> make a new panel?
[22:48] <markit> mmm seems there is a package plasma-widget-quickaccess
[22:49] <markit> there are many additional plasma packages, lol
[22:49] <SIR_Taco> markit: that's for dolphin... but you could create a directory/folder, put shortcuts to all the programs in it and set that folder as default I guess
[22:50] <markit> SIR_Taco: it's a way, sure
[22:53] <SIR_Taco> markit: you want something like the old 'drawers'.... don't know of anything like that than what I've suggested.... maybe someone knows a widget for it?
[23:07] <markit> SIR_Taco: sorry to bug you, but in this video I see a "news" plasmoid that has the list of "news" I would like to use to show the Newspaper desktop view, any idea? http://youtu.be/8IiSTBTDBas
[23:07] <markit> it appears after 2-3 seconds of the video
[23:07] <markit> there is also a "openDesktop" widget on it's right
[23:13] <clarion_admin> Can someone please tell me how to password protect my widgets so that they can't be moved. 11.10
[23:13] <clarion_admin> I'm using this as a public computer
[23:14] <SIR_Taco> markit: it seems there's a widget named "news" which should do what you want... not sure how I missed that one haha
[23:15] <markit> SIR_Taco: ehm, probably I'm blind... yep, now that you confirm me that exists, I've found myself with the italian translation
[23:16] <markit> of "news" (notizie)
[23:16] <SIR_Taco> it's much better than the RSS one
[23:16] <SIR_Taco> clarion_admin: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=88516
[23:17] <SIR_Taco> markit: I missed it a few times too
[23:17] <Daskreech> clarion_admin: You can lock the screen but outside of that look into Kiosk