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silverghostubuntu 12.04.1 is out so is xubuntu where i lubuntu 12.04.102:12
silverghostny1 here02:13
silverghostoioioioioioi02:14
silverghost................02:14
Unit193http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/ Doesn't have one.02:15
Unit193Just update your system and you'll be good.02:15
silverghostgo to ubuntu.com02:22
silverghostubuntu 12.04.1 is here02:22
silverghostxubuntu time to ugrade 12.04.102:22
silverghostwtf is this02:22
Unit193Lubuntu isn't an LTS, simple as that.02:24
silverghostfuck this shit02:25
Unit193!language | silverghost02:25
ubottusilverghost: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.02:25
silverghostfuck this community son of a bitch bazhang02:40
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theixleHi, I'm having trouble with nvidia-settings. I think I've installed the drivers but I am still getting the error suggesting I run nvidia-xconfig (which I've done several times and restarted). Can anyone help me pinpoint the outstanding issue?05:07
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hotteahi,my lubuntu could not mount usb09:34
hotteahi,my lubuntu could not mount usb(fat),but I have choose vfat when configure .config of compiling kernel09:35
hotteasee http://imagebin.org/22568809:35
ActionParsniphey guys, what is the equivelant of notify-osd in lubuntu please09:50
ActionParsnipevery time I call it the command is not found, but there is a notifying system09:51
Unit193Use notify-send to send them, and notification-daemon as the daemon.09:51
ActionParsnipI'm using notify-send in Lubuntu and I amtold the comamnd isn't found though09:54
ActionParsnipI could install it but was curious what the default is09:54
JohnDoe_71Rusiso assembly as isn't planned like ubutnu 12.04.1?10:13
Unit193Lubuntu 12.04 isn't an LTS, so no ISO for that.10:14
JohnDoe_71Rusbut the general with ubuntu of updating are available through updater?10:16
bioterroryes10:16
Unit193lsb_releaes -a says .1 already (and has for a bit, ssh motd.)10:20
Speedstickif I copy lubuntu defaults, slap my own logo on it and decide my own default apps, can i call that my own linux distro12:21
Speedstickand use for commerical purposes?12:21
bioterrorhttp://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html12:22
Speedstickyeah assuming it stays open source12:23
Speedstickthough I don't think redhat is os is it?12:23
Speedstickhave to pay for it no?12:23
ActionParsnipUbuntu has complete freedom as well as fredom to sell12:25
xnoxhello =) i'm testing lubuntu.12:26
ActionParsnipxnox: howdy12:27
xnoxhow come it doesn't boot into live session by default & then offer to "try lubuntu" or "install lubuntu" using ubiquity greeter, similar to how ubuntu quantal behaves?12:27
ActionParsnipxnox: ive always made the choice using the unetbootin menu12:28
ActionParsnipxnox: maybe its to save space12:29
xnoxhmmm... not sure. cause it will load live session anyway regardless if you choose "try or install"12:34
xnoxwell quantal daily live session.... booted into command prompt in the virtual machine12:35
ActionParsnipxnox: tried different vbox settings12:39
ActionParsnipxnox: or the boot option: nomodeset12:39
ActionParsnipxnox: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?12:39
xnoxmd5 matches.12:39
xnoxlet me try the boot option12:39
psichaswhere is tool search for files in lubuntu? ;)12:40
xnoxahhh... launcher and old-style menus.....12:41
ActionParsnippsichas: you can use:  sudo updatedb; locate something12:41
xnoxbut damn it's fast =)12:42
ActionParsnipxnox: all boted now?12:42
xnoxActionParsnip: thanks a lot - nomodeset did the trick12:42
ActionParsnipxnox: its common, also for intel GPUs12:42
xnoxthere are theming issues12:43
xnoxtickboxes & radio buttons: have no ticks or dots in them12:43
xnoxalso both are square.12:43
xnoxfallout from recent gtk work in ubuntu?12:43
silverarrowdoes anyone know totem well?12:44
xnox#lubuntu-dev12:44
silverarrowtotem works all independant of flash-/adobe?12:44
ActionParsnipxnox: are you using quantal?12:45
xnoxActionParsnip: yes. I develop ubiquity.12:46
psichasActionParsnip, i want search files in my /media/USB/12:46
xnoxActionParsnip: the slideshow correctly has "mate color" on top and the bottom, and different/lighter "pure white" in the centre.12:46
ActionParsnippsichas: it should search that12:46
ActionParsnipxnox: are you fully updated?12:47
xnoxthis does not happen on all the previous "steps"/"pages"12:47
xnoxActionParsnip: it's today's daily cd12:47
ActionParsnipxnox: i see12:47
xnoxActionParsnip: it's the installer =) so you always test it in the CD12:47
ActionParsnipxnox: true, I always update ubiquity and gparted before I kick off the installer12:48
xnoxwhat are the package name for the default lubuntu theme?12:49
ActionParsnippsichas: you can install any gui search app you want, just watch deps if you want to stay light, or use the command: find    in a terminal12:49
ActionParsnippsichas: find /media/USB -iname "*.png"12:49
psichasany good search toool?12:50
ActionParsnippsichas: and so forth12:50
psichasgui?12:50
ActionParsnippsichas: not used one to be honest, I use locate and find12:50
ActionParsnippsichas: let me see what I can dig up12:50
ActionParsnip!info catfish12:51
ubottucatfish (source: catfish): file search tool that support several different engines. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.2-2ubuntu1 (precise), package size 30 kB, installed size 312 kB12:51
ActionParsnippretty light12:51
ActionParsniphttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/catfish-file-search-tool-that-support-several-different-engines.html12:51
psichasty ActionParsnip ;)12:52
SpeedstickI think if lxde made itself more visually appealing it could overtake xfce in popularity12:52
Speedstickis more lightweight that's for sure12:52
ActionParsnipSpeedstick: for sure12:54
ActionParsnipSpeedstick: I like the theme, the wallpaper is something I always change12:54
psichaslubuntu should install search tool in next version :)))12:57
bioterrorto search what?12:57
bioterrorit requires quite much resources to make indexing search12:57
bioterrorFYI12:57
bioterrorI mean that the indexing search tool requires resources from your computer12:57
psichas:) but why installled osmo, and abiword by fefault in live cd :) its are nothing for me :P12:58
ActionParsniplocate + files db is fast but running the updatedb takes a lot12:58
bioterrornothing for you, but something for someone else12:58
bioterrorActionParsnip, find path/somewher/* |grep word12:59
psichasyear? games? its are cool? :D12:59
ActionParsnipbioterror: true, but updatedb will be quicker , if the OS changes very little12:59
psichasi don;t have time play games but i see alot of games installed by live cd :D12:59
bioterrorupdatedb will be quicker if you keep computer on around 3am13:00
Speedstickabout to make my own distro based off lubuntu :)13:01
bioterrorI remember when I was a younger boy and my computers hard drive started to keep lots of noise during my nightly beauty sleep ,)13:01
psichasi deleted abiword becouse it have a lot of bugs :/ and installed libre office like normala human :D13:01
ActionParsnipbioterror: indeed, and noisy cpu fans under heavy load13:01
bioterrorpsichas, that's what Open systems are all about. freedom!13:02
smartboyhwSpeedstick: Wow, can I download it now?;)13:02
psichasyup, Live free or die! :D13:02
bioterrorSpeedstick, I would call it "spin off"13:02
psichaslinux motto :)13:02
Speedstickbio i'd call it a fork13:02
Speedstick:P13:02
smartboyhwSpeedstick: Do you want me on your dev team or help?;)13:03
Speedsticklol nah is personal project13:04
Speedstickam using remastersys13:04
smartboyhwSpeedstick: :)13:04
leszekhi15:43
gld1982ltdhi15:45
smartboyhwhi15:46
UnleashPChi everyone15:48
UnleashPCquick question15:48
gld1982ltdyes?15:48
UnleashPCis gigolo just a front end for samba? in other words if i want to access a wireless printer or other pcs on the network15:48
UnleashPCdo i need samba or can i just install gigolo?15:49
leszekUnleashPC: gigolo is a frontend for gvfs-fuse15:50
gld1982ltdgigolo uses GIO/GVFS15:50
UnleashPCok yea i saw that15:50
leszekso you need a samba client for accessing samba shares15:50
UnleashPCbut is that all i need to network with windows? and or access my wireless printer?15:50
leszekyou need cups aswell15:52
leszekand the printerdriver for your printer15:52
leszekbut that should do the job then15:52
gld1982ltdif you have gvfs-backends you should be able to use gigolo to mount windows shares i believe.15:53
gld1982ltdwhy not use pcmanfm?15:53
UnleashPCwell i am trying to decide between gigolo and or just using the system-config-samba15:53
UnleashPCpcmanfm doesn not have the ability to accept login and passwords for shares15:54
UnleashPCit can browse as long as there is not password15:54
gld1982ltdahh...brb...must reboot15:54
leszekUnleashPC: this is not true15:59
leszekit is the exact method used by gigolo to tranfer username and password15:59
UnleashPChmmm16:00
UnleashPCso if i access a windows machine, and that machine has a username and password, pcmanfm will prompt me for it?16:00
leszekUnleashPC: of course16:04
UnleashPCok, so i can't leave samba out then, and all i should need for using the network printer then is cups?16:05
leszekI think so16:07
UnleashPCok, i'm trying to stay away from installing anything i don't need. but i do need the setup to be able to connect to windows networks, play nice and print from the network printer16:08
UnleashPCbefore you used to have to install samba to get all that working16:08
silverarrowcan anyone explain the connection with open box and lxde desktop in lubuntu?16:11
UnleashPCopenbox provide the windowing system16:12
silverarrowhmm16:13
silverarrowlx panel16:13
silverarrowlxde laptop16:13
silverarrowxfce16:13
silverarrowI get confused16:14
UnleashPCya16:14
silverarrowbut I have lxde in lubuntu?16:15
silverarrowalmost sure I do16:17
holsteinLDXE is a complete environment.. the one used in lubuntu.. the "l" is like LXDE+ubuntu16:18
silverarrowaha16:25
UnleashPCok , so i only need the built in pcmanfm networking capability and cups for networking printing?16:27
holsteinhmm... shouldnt need pcmanfm16:27
holsteini havent had to do it since i was using gnome2, but back then, it was a matter of just checking "share printer" in a GUI16:28
holsteinthat was ubuntu to ubuntu... making it useable from a windows box took a bit more work with samba16:28
UnleashPCreally i'm just trying to set it up so if someone has a wireless printer then can use it no problem16:29
UnleashPCas for the networking with windows i used to have to install samba in lubuntu to get it to work16:30
holsteindepends on the printer.. in my network, the printer is on the network, and its added per machine16:30
holsteinthe fact that its wireless makes no difference.. the printer is on the network.. usually the GUI just "sees" the network printers and offers to use them16:30
UnleashPCok, but if that printer is on a windows network? does samba need to be used?16:31
holsteinUnleashPC: is it?.. its on the "network" correct? its connected via wifi to the network?16:32
holsteinwhen *anything* connects to it, windows doesnt have anything to do with it in that case16:32
holsteinyou can have a windows machine connected to it, using it, and sharing it via windows, but the way that windows box is connected in this scenario is exactly the same way all the other clients can connect16:33
UnleashPCya, i just remember a version back , when i setup a lubuntu machine on a windows network, i had to install samba and stuff to get it to be able to access windows shares that had a password16:33
UnleashPCand it enable me to access the network printer too16:33
holsteinUnleashPC: its not a "windows network" though16:33
UnleashPCok16:33
holsteinUnleashPC: it depends on how you want to set it up16:34
UnleashPCmy problem before was that i could browse the network just fine16:34
holsteinif its a network printer, then i would connect it to the network and connect clients to it16:34
bioterrorit's gvfs that handles this network from pcmanfm16:34
holsteinotherise, you connect it to a windwos box, or a linux box, or whatever... and then that box is the printserver16:34
UnleashPCbut i couldn't really put anything anywhere because the machine didn't have permission to do so, so they created a user name and password for the network to allow my machine on it, but only samba would set me up as a user on the network16:35
UnleashPCin other words it let me add a username and password for my lubuntu box16:35
holsteinbioterror: that would be using the linux box as the print server, correct?16:35
UnleashPCcurrently i don't believe pcmanfm does that16:35
holsteinUnleashPC: i just plug my printer into the router... either wired or wifi, and clients connect16:35
bioterrorare you talking about windows network shares or are we talking about print servers16:36
holsteinthen, no one server machine is in charge of the sharing16:36
bioterrors/you/we/16:36
bioterror:)16:36
holsteinbioterror: i think thats what im trying to determine :)16:36
UnleashPCwell i guess i blur them cuz i was tackling both things at once16:36
holsteinsure, but you dont need both...16:36
bioterrorbut I've succesfully used printers on windows network with directly connecting thru tcp/ip16:36
UnleashPCi know accessing windows shares was where i needed samba16:36
holsteinif the goal is to have all machine print to the printer, and its a network printer, then just put it ont the network16:36
bioterrorskipped all the server stuff and so on, just picked up the printers ip address and thats it16:37
UnleashPClike i said i could browse and even get files from , but i couldn't put files anywhere16:37
holsteinUnleashPC: yes, but file sharing has nothing to do with printing16:37
UnleashPCok, like i said those two got blurry to me because i was handling both together16:38
holsteinUnleashPC: i would do them seperately.. you can do ssh, samba.. whatever you like for sharing files.. and you can set a windows or linux box up as the print server16:38
UnleashPCso if its a network with windows shares then i probably need samba16:38
holsteinOR, just put the printer on the network and let each machine just use it16:38
UnleashPCbut for basic wireless printing i shouldn't need anything16:38
UnleashPCwhat about cups?16:38
holsteinyou shouldnt need to actually look at or worry with cups in that scenario, but you can if you want16:39
holsteini typically use whatever operating system tools are in place, unless they dont work, and just connect to the network printer16:39
UnleashPCok16:39
holsteincups is one of those tools, but i usually do more damage there personally16:40
UnleashPCas for windows shares? is samba still the way to go16:40
UnleashPCor should i just try my luck with the built in networking provided by pcmanfm?16:40
holsteinUnleashPC: samba is the only way linux is allowed to communicate with those windows shares for now AFAIK16:40
UnleashPCgotcha16:41
holsteinUnleashPC: there are lots of options for fileshareing cross platform16:41
holsteini tend to make windows read my ssh shares, instead of the other way around16:41
UnleashPCso for a default install system-config-samba would be a good tool to have?16:41
UnleashPCalong with the smbclient?16:41
holsteinbut, i dont have windwos running anymore locally16:41
bioterrorsamba is needed only if you put up window shares16:41
bioterrorotherwise not16:41
bioterroryou make the shares on your computer16:42
michegwhy ligthdm show me in the userlist varnish and mysql?16:42
UnleashPCi'm just trying to setup a machine where if they do attempt to connect to a network of windows machines , they are good to go16:42
holsteinUnleashPC: you can read what you want in samba.. i find it challenging, and i did configure it just to be able to say i could, but it was not easy16:42
bioterrorsamba is easy16:42
bioterrora lot easier than NFS ;)16:42
holsteinwell, im admitting it was all my "fault" :)16:42
holsteinstill.. i just make windwos access my ssh shares16:43
holsteinnothing wrong with samba.. i would just expect to read for a bit UnleashPC16:43
UnleashPCi know quite a few people will try to jump on their existing network that has windows machines on it, and just want the tools/programs needed for that to be install by default16:44
UnleashPCso i'm trying to get a good idea of whats needed in that situation,16:44
UnleashPCI've done it before with system-config-samba16:44
holsteindepends on what you want16:44
UnleashPClike i said, if i give this machine to somebody and they want to network with windows i want what they need to do it already installed16:45
holsteinyeah, but it also depends on their network, and what they want to do16:47
holsteinuser permissions..i would expect no monolithic "this pleases everyone" thing.. otherwise, it would likely be included by default16:48
UnleashPCgotcha16:49
UnleashPCthe trouble i had before wasn't seeing or browsing the network , but when i wanted to machine to be added to the network with its own machine name and password16:50
UnleashPCthats where pcmanfm fell short16:50
UnleashPCthere is /was no way to set my machine name and password for the network to grant permission16:51
holsteinfrom what i know, that needed to be done server side16:51
holsteinanyways.. i gotta run16:51
UnleashPCthanks for the help man16:51
UnleashPCappreciate it16:51
gld1982ltdhaving issues with my mic. can someone help? i have searched and tested, but to no avail.17:07
gld1982ltdi have tested the mic with gstreamer-properties. i have set everything in the mixer....3 different ones. i can't get my mic to work correctly.17:08
UnleashPCis it working at all?>?17:09
UnleashPCand your using Lubuntu?17:09
gld1982ltdit works in gstreamer-properties, but sadly not in any other app.17:10
gld1982ltdyes, lubuntu 12.04 with the latest versions of software installed.17:10
gld1982ltdi am on an hp dv9005-us17:10
UnleashPCand i take it when you right click on the volume icon in the menu bar and go to sound settings it doesnt' work17:14
UnleashPCweird that that is broken on the default installs17:14
UnleashPCif you install xterm17:14
gld1982ltdopens alsamixer17:14
UnleashPCthen you must have xterm installed17:15
UnleashPCanyway17:15
UnleashPCdid you make sure you mic was unmuted?17:15
UnleashPCis there more than one sound card?17:15
UnleashPCmy mic comes up as its own thing17:15
gld1982ltdi had gnome alsa mixer installed and it used to open that. i have also used alsamixergui and xfce4 mixer.17:15
UnleashPCplain old alsamixer from the terminal will do17:15
UnleashPCmake sure your mics are unmuted17:15
gld1982ltdalsamixer doesn't let me do anything with the mic setting.17:16
UnleashPCalso check for more than i sound card17:16
UnleashPCsure it does17:16
UnleashPCif you take a look at alsamixer17:16
UnleashPCyou'll see that f3 is for playback17:16
UnleashPCf4 is for capture (mic)17:16
UnleashPCf5 is to show everything17:16
UnleashPCf6 is to show all your sound devices17:17
UnleashPCand f1 is the help file17:17
UnleashPCif you mic has mm at the bottom then its muted17:17
gld1982ltdyes....i know....when i go to capture....move over to mic......press m......nothing happens.....try to increase volume......nothing happens.17:17
UnleashPCjust press m to unmute17:17
UnleashPCthe mm doesn't turn to green 0017:18
UnleashPC?17:18
gld1982ltdno mm.17:18
UnleashPCso at the bottom of the mic graph what does it look like17:18
UnleashPCis it green?17:18
gld1982ltdhttp://www.shareimages.com/image.php?61620-pJqbl5WflZyll6eSl6an-alsamixer.png17:21
UnleashPCwhen you hit f6 what do you get?17:23
holsteini wouldnt trust the labels in there either gld1982ltd17:24
gld1982ltdi have default and HDA Nvidia17:24
holsteini typically just test tweaking all settings... i would also consider tyring with a live CD like the main ubuntu one, something with pulse... for troubleshooting purposes17:24
holsteinother than going up or down in alsa versions, assuming its not something tricky in a UI where we dont know how to "turn the mic on" (which is likely) i think collecting data and searching around is the best bet17:25
holsteinrunning in a terminal "aplay -l" and "arecord -l" and searching the forums17:26
gld1982ltdi have tweaked so much and i have gotten it working at some times. i did alsactl store 0 after it worked last time, and it still doesn't work on startup...so i tweaked some more, and don't know how i got it working in the first place.17:26
holsteini would personally try a live CD running pulse and try installing and using "pavucontrol"17:27
holsteini have used both alsa only and pulse systems... both have issues and advantages, and i tend to just go with the path of least resistance17:27
holsteini think before "giving up" i would try a newer alsa version... sometimes i just grab the latest live daily's for that purpose17:29
holsteinim the kind of guy who has more band width than technical expertise, so i tend to just test with live CD's, which are easy to revert from17:30
gld1982ltdhttp://pastebin.com/xeAunGzA17:30
holsteinbandwidth*17:30
gld1982ltdhttp://pastebin.com/0bazLQ1c17:31
gld1982ltdaplay -l and arecord -l17:31
holsteinif its a desktop, i wouldnt be afraid of putting a sound card in there too.. i have a stack of them... depending on the intended purpose, a USB headset would be more appropriate for telephony, and an external sound card more appropriate for recording17:31
gld1982ltdlaptop17:32
gld1982ltdi'm trying to use the internal mic.17:32
holsteinsure... thats why i gave the "USB" scenario as well17:32
holsteinyup.. but, if when developing a workaround, you end up with something thats cheap, better and "just works"...17:33
holsteinanyways, im sure you *can* get this working... im just also an audio guy, and spend very little time trying to get internal sound cards working17:33
holsteinalso, not that im trying to kick you out of here, but this is not "lubuntu specific", so you could try the main support avenues, and maybe get more help.. but likely someone will suggest pulseaudio17:34
gld1982ltdi don't want pulseauio, and what is the proper channel for this issue?17:35
holsteingld1982ltd: its going to be challening17:35
holsteinpulse is in the main version of ubuntu, so any of those channels you are in, it will be helpful to be running pulse17:35
gld1982ltdholstein: it has been a challenge. isn't pulse heavyweight, or why is it not installed in lubuntu by default?17:36
holsteinalso, it literally wouldnt hurt to try it, since it would be nice to know that the hardware is functioning properly, assuming you have not confirmed this17:36
holsteingld1982ltd: pulse is pulse... is it heavier than without pulse? sure.. do you need it for your card to work? thats what i would test and confirm17:37
holsteingld1982ltd: i have been told there are several cards that "need" it... im not sure what that means, but i do recal those being nvidia17:37
gld1982ltdok...i will test it out.17:37
gld1982ltdthanks17:37
holsteinwould i install it? sure.. its easy enough to try and remove... what do i suggest? trying it in a live CD17:37
holsteinalso, the ALSA versions and the actual kernel verisons can affect the level of hardware support we are discussing, so trying different alsa versions and kernel versions however you feel comfortable doing that is a great troubleshootings step17:38
holsteinwithout have the hardware in front of me, its hard to say whats best.. i can really only suggest ways to self test and diagnose17:39
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sitoHi, I was looking for an easy way to create shortcuts to folders and I read that is not possible, you have to use the terminal, you can not add this item to the menu along with other items?20:11
holsteinsito: well, using the terminal is a way, which means it *is* possible.. you want to edit the menu?20:12
holsteinhttp://wiki.lxde.org/en/Main_Menu is one reference... i would try alacarte20:14
sitoif I want to select a dozen folders and create a link to each of these I'm less selecting them with the mouse and then doing create shortcut, but you can not and I do everything with the terminal.20:16
sitook, now I read the wiki20:16
holsteinsito: thats for editing the menu.. what are you trying to do?20:17
sitoI was looking for an easy way to create links to multiple folders at once.20:24
holsteini would probably just knock it out in the terminal real quick something like this http://www.noob2geek.com/how-to/how-to-create-hard-and-symbolic-links-in-ubuntu/20:26
Speedstickwhy isn't lubuntu more popular you guys think?20:27
holsteinSpeedstick: its a community project.. there is no "lubuntu" making sure lubuntu is popular20:27
wxlSpeedstick: for a somewhat new, somewhat less visible project, it's pretty popular20:28
holsteinyeah, folks notice and appreciate its slick and sleek look and feel and want its "ubuntu-ness"20:28
wxl12 on distrowatch ain't bad20:29
holsteinfor something with no commercial entity pushing it...20:30
Speedstickwonder how xubuntu got picked up20:30
wxlthat's better than slackware, gentoo, crunchbang, xubuntu, kubuntu, knoppix, redhat20:30
wxland uhhhh20:30
* wxl tries to find a random distro20:30
wxlMINIX20:31
wxlyeah, better than minix20:31
Speedstickbtw does lxde.org load for you guys?20:31
holsteinSpeedstick: picked up you mean, recently more popular? i think it was folks wanting something other than unity and gnome3.. something easy and out of the box20:31
wxlminix being what linus basically hacked to create linux XD20:31
holsteinSpeedstick: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/lxde.org20:32
bioterrorif lubuntu were more popular than what it is atm. we would have difficulties to answer to your questions as this channel would be flooded with questions! ;D20:32
wxlworks here, Speedstick albeit a little slow20:33
bioterrorlxde.org is always sluggish20:33
bioterrorshould I tell why20:33
* wxl didn't realize MINIX is still in development, but that's a discussion for #lubuntu-offtopic, so will say no more on the subject.20:33
* wxl shrugs20:33
bioterrorit's like over 30 hops away from me and located behind a 56k modem connection in taiwan20:34
silverghostoi ubuntu community is a noob i am tellin them lubuntu 12.04 is not a lts release but they make fun of me lol say it is a lts release is 12.04 lts release?22:38
* silverghost laughs at noob ubuntu community22:38
* silverghost is the real punk eh22:39

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