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| ogra_ | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-preinstalled/20120824/ | 09:38 |
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| ogra_ | there we go | 09:38 |
| ogra_ | ac100 lubuntu | 09:38 |
| ogra_ | wow, and only 400M | 09:39 |
| lilstevie | nice | 09:39 |
| lilstevie | I've recently renewed some work on the tf101 | 09:40 |
| lilstevie | (took long enough) :p | 09:40 |
| ogra_ | heh | 09:40 |
| lilstevie | but u-boot won't play ball with my usb keyboard :/ | 09:40 |
| ogra_ | get a bluetooth one | 09:41 |
| ogra_ | will surely be better :P | 09:41 |
| lilstevie | u-boot | 09:41 |
| lilstevie | :p | 09:41 |
| ogra_ | yeah, that was the joke :P | 09:41 |
| lilstevie | instead I have started writing a driver for the dock keyboard | 09:41 |
| ogra_ | ++ | 09:41 |
| ogra_ | ood move | 09:41 |
| ogra_ | *good even | 09:41 |
| lilstevie | we have no serial | 09:42 |
| lilstevie | so playing with involves putting a boot.scr with the commands I want to execute on a usb stick | 09:42 |
| lilstevie | speaking of u-boot though, documentation on device tree stuff is really lacking | 09:43 |
| ogra_ | yep | 09:43 |
| * ogra_ agrees | 09:43 | |
| lilstevie | is there any documentation anywhere that could give me a hand, so far I have had nothing but fail in trying to get a kernel running using a device tree | 09:44 |
| ogra_ | i dont know of an, oogle ... | 09:48 |
| ogra_ | 09:48 | |
| lilstevie | yeah tried that | 09:48 |
| lilstevie | :( | 09:48 |
| lilstevie | fragments, none of which seem to help tegra | 09:49 |
| ogra_ | well, what i know is that you need a devicetree file and u-boot needs to load it somehow | 09:51 |
| lilstevie | heh | 09:56 |
| lilstevie | well I managed that part | 09:56 |
| ogra_ | and indeed your u-boot version needs to know how to handle it | 09:57 |
| lilstevie | and ran the fdt commands | 10:03 |
| lilstevie | yeah, I'm using the l4t-r15 u-boot | 10:03 |
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| marvin24 | lilstevie: what's the problem? | 11:03 |
| marvin24 | on ac100 the device tree get appended to the u-boot binary | 11:04 |
| marvin24 | which is transfered to the kernel later in the boot process | 11:04 |
| marvin24 | the problem is that kernel has a slightly different device tree than u-boot | 11:05 |
| ogra_ | ouch | 11:07 |
| ogra_ | it shouldnt, should it ? | 11:07 |
| marvin24 | no it shouldn't | 11:07 |
| ogra_ | (at least by my knowledge of DT one DT file should work with bootloader as welll as kernel) | 11:07 |
| marvin24 | but mainline u-boot isn't updated yet | 11:08 |
| marvin24 | but I guess you can just copy the kernel dt to u-boot | 11:08 |
| marvin24 | as long as the syntax is equal | 11:08 |
| marvin24 | ogra_: is the new quantal image installable? | 11:09 |
| ogra_ | marvin24, havent tested it since teh switch to lubuntu, download is just done | 11:09 |
| marvin24 | I wonder if it also has the limitation to be only installable to the internal mmc | 11:10 |
| ogra_ | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-preinstalled/20120824/ | 11:10 |
| marvin24 | I will try out later | 11:10 |
| ogra_ | i havent changed anything in the installer | 11:10 |
| ogra_ | everything should work/fail as it did before :) | 11:10 |
| marvin24 | :-( | 11:11 |
| * ogra_ doesnt get what was broken, for me all install variants worked last time i tested | 11:12 | |
| ogra_ | ah, sweet i'm in lubuntus oem-config :) | 11:32 |
| ogra_ | X took quite long to come up ... i already thought it had crashed | 11:32 |
| marvin24 | maybe it restarted several times | 11:33 |
| ogra_ | might be, i'll check the logs once i can | 11:33 |
| ogra_ | hmm, weird that they use the same slideshow | 11:34 |
| ogra_ | doesnt really match the color theme | 11:34 |
| xnox | oh their slideshow was crashing or something | 11:37 |
| ogra_ | ah | 11:37 |
| * xnox ponders if I should continue ubiquity development on lubuntu | 11:37 | |
| ogra_ | yay, oem-config survived ... i'm in package removal | 11:37 |
| xnox | ogra_: based on the foundations-team report, is there a bug tracking compiz llvmpipe landing in ubuntu? | 11:37 |
| ogra_ | not yet, no | 11:38 |
| xnox | and will there be a release meeting today? | 11:38 |
| ogra_ | and i'm pretty sure we wont enable it at all for arm builds | 11:38 |
| ogra_ | ask kate :) | 11:38 |
| ogra_ | i have it on my gcal but that doesnt mean much :) | 11:38 |
| ogra_ | xnox, we're still waiting for input from doko in the mail discussion about llvmpipe (thouh i suspect he wont maically pull code out of a hat that makes arm work) | 11:39 |
| ogra_ | yay, "removing cryptsetp" :) | 11:39 |
| ogra_ | *setup | 11:39 |
| ogra_ | lightdm ! | 11:40 |
| * ogra_ logs in | 11:41 | |
| ogra_ | heh | 11:41 |
| ogra_ | the games subment uses the same icon for all games | 11:41 |
| ogra_ | *submenu | 11:41 |
| ogra_ | marvin24, so at least the default install works just fine here | 11:48 |
| * ogra_ is surprised to see the initial desktop use 267MB | 11:48 | |
| ogra_ | thats way more than unity-2d used | 11:48 |
| ogra_ | (about 100M) | 11:49 |
| marvin24 | nice it worked so far | 11:49 |
| marvin24 | I will try install on sd card then | 11:49 |
| ogra_ | hmm, chromium is not working | 11:50 |
| xnox | crashes? | 11:55 |
| xnox | it did for me, i switched to chrome | 11:55 |
| ogra_ | yep | 11:55 |
| ogra_ | on your panda ? | 11:55 |
| * xnox 'for me' usually means 'on my amd64' | 11:55 | |
| ogra_ | ah | 11:55 |
| * xnox has no screen for panda remember =) | 11:55 | |
| ogra_ | well, there is always ssh -X | 11:55 |
| ogra_ | ;) | 11:55 |
| ogra_ | sigh, apport | 11:57 |
| xnox | aport - is the command you give your dog to 'fetch' in Russian | 12:02 |
| ogra_ | haha | 12:03 |
| * ogra_ tries suspend | 12:15 | |
| ogra_ | bah | 12:15 |
| xnox | let me just tell you =) quantal daily amd64 is awesome in the VM: no dash, no indicators, no panel on the top. Simply a pretty background + icon install ubuntu | 12:18 |
| xnox | simply precise =) awesome | 12:18 |
| ogra_ | haha | 12:18 |
| ogra_ | you should try it on the panda ... there its awesome and breaking :) | 12:19 |
| xnox | i am pretty sure that it's the fallback metacity without any acceleration | 12:20 |
| xnox | btw what did happen to the gnome fallback (ubuntu classic) | 12:20 |
| * ogra_ thinks now that he has to look at xcreensaver again regulary it is time to reintroduce the xft patch for the unlock window as infinity suggested | 12:30 | |
| ogra_ | this thing is just to ugly | 12:30 |
| xnox | ogra_: see what unity does to you! calling other projects "too ugly" | 12:35 |
| lilstevie | marvin24, screen black (backlight on) and nothing | 12:49 |
| marvin24 | lilstevie: serial console available? | 13:01 |
| lilstevie | no | 13:01 |
| marvin24 | if the kernel is compiled for device tree support and no dt is supplied it will just stop | 13:02 |
| lilstevie | not enough resources have gone into locating the serial | 13:02 |
| marvin24 | hacking u-boot without a serial console is ... | 13:02 |
| lilstevie | by supplying dt you mean fatload ; fdt address {blah}; fdt resize; bootm | 13:03 |
| marvin24 | lilstevie: mmh, we use u-boot-dtb.bin | 13:03 |
| lilstevie | without a serial console is... fun? :p | 13:03 |
| marvin24 | which does not require loading it from somewhere else | 13:04 |
| lilstevie | hm | 13:04 |
| marvin24 | do you have patches for tf101 on mainline? | 13:04 |
| marvin24 | 3.1 kernel won't boot with device tree anyway | 13:05 |
| lilstevie | oh | 13:05 |
| lilstevie | even though it has generic DT support? | 13:05 |
| marvin24 | yes | 13:05 |
| lilstevie | that could be the issue | 13:05 |
| marvin24 | a *lot* of dt work went into mainline in the last version | 13:05 |
| lilstevie | ah | 13:05 |
| marvin24 | that's what the nvidia folks mostly did over the last months | 13:06 |
| marvin24 | mainline just removed board file support ;-) | 13:06 |
| lilstevie | :) | 13:06 |
| marvin24 | so, better spend your time towrite a nice device tree file for tf*01 | 13:07 |
| marvin24 | and add u-boot support | 13:07 |
| lilstevie | well the seaboard device tree pretty much works with a resolution change | 13:08 |
| marvin24 | so you got mainline kernel working already? | 13:08 |
| lilstevie | no u-boot | 13:08 |
| marvin24 | ah | 13:08 |
| marvin24 | I think linux kernel support should be a big problem then | 13:09 |
| lilstevie | haven't really tried much past trying to get the device tree to load on a working 3.1 | 13:10 |
| lilstevie | marvin24, is the ac100 stuff somewhere? | 13:27 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: hey, any news about the pvr driver? | 13:56 |
| rsalveti | :-) | 13:56 |
| ogra_ | rsalveti, hmm, didnt infinity upload it yesterday ? | 14:35 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: nops | 14:38 |
| ogra_ | yeah, doesnt seem to be in any queue | 14:39 |
| ogra_ | i'm in a call now, will take care afterwards | 14:39 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: great, thanks | 14:39 |
| ogra_ | rsalveti, uploaded (will be stuck in NEW now) | 14:47 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: did you also upload libdri2? | 14:48 |
| rsalveti | ogra_: bug 1040611 | 14:48 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1040611 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] libdri2" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1040611 | 14:48 |
| ogra_ | only libdri2 yet | 14:48 |
| rsalveti | oh, ok | 14:48 |
| rsalveti | good, we can poke infinity when he's back on-line | 14:48 |
| ogra_ | under the assumption that NEW processing might take a bit | 14:48 |
| rsalveti | we just need to get someone from the desktop to update compiz again | 14:49 |
| rsalveti | now using the right revision | 14:49 |
| ogra_ | seeing seb128's release report on the ubuntu-release ML they are aware it seems | 14:49 |
| ogra_ | "* compiz GLES landing to compiz-trunk, needs to be tested and released" | 14:50 |
| ogra_ | seems they wait for an upstream release for it | 14:50 |
| rsalveti | got it | 15:02 |
| Laney | ogra_: Care to take a look at http://ubuntuone.com/0E3feYdrhGY1ywL9vNBjbS and tell me what I did wrong please? That's a netboot install on my panda using the latest fb image. :-) | 15:38 |
| ogra_ | Laney, they system needs the SD card to boot (and write the bootloader to it during install) | 15:39 |
| ogra_ | so dont unplug it ;) | 15:39 |
| ogra_ | sorry, i'm behind with the install instructions, the wiki should say that | 15:40 |
| Laney | unplug? I unplugged nothing | 15:40 |
| Laney | I just did what this says http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ARM/NetBoot | 15:40 |
| ogra_ | how did you boot the netboot image ? | 15:40 |
| ogra_ | and the Sd is still in the slot ? | 15:40 |
| Laney | yes | 15:41 |
| ogra_ | hmm | 15:41 |
| Laney | unless it fell out ... | 15:41 |
| ogra_ | probably bug 806751 | 15:41 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 806751 in debian-installer "Boot partition on SD is too small on omap/omap4" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/806751 | 15:41 |
| Laney | Fix Released? | 15:41 |
| ogra_ | though that shouldnt say "is not a block device" | 15:42 |
| Laney | I'm installing with / on an attached USB drive if that matters | 15:42 |
| ogra_ | thats fine | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | and you used guided partitioning ? | 15:43 |
| Laney | manual → select free space → auto partition | 15:43 |
| ogra_ | hmm | 15:44 |
| Laney | I think it made a separate /boot partition | 15:44 |
| ogra_ | yes, it does that by default | 15:45 |
| Laney | ho hum | 15:48 |
| * Laney gets a live image instead | 15:48 | |
| ogra_ | noo ! | 15:48 |
| ogra_ | get a server image at best :) | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | desktop is totally borked due to the removal of unity-2d | 15:49 |
| Laney | argh, really? | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | yep | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | llvmpipe on arm doesnt work... | 15:49 |
| Laney | sigh | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | and there is no 2D desktop anymore ... | 15:49 |
| ogra_ | nor are there 3D drivers yet | 15:50 |
| ogra_ | the alpha milestone might work ... but you should refrain from upgradin | 15:50 |
| Laney | i'll just get that and hold unity-2d then | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | that should work | 15:54 |
| ogra_ | sorry, that netboot didnt work out for you, i'll have a look over the weekend what that is | 15:55 |
| ogra_ | weird error ... really | 15:55 |
| Laney | I chose the desktop task so it would have been a bit doomed anyway :P | 15:56 |
| ogra_ | heh, yeah | 15:56 |
| Laney | there was a weird "Ubuntu Desktop (USB)" task too — wonder what that's about | 15:58 |
| ogra_ | tasksel should be able to tell | 15:59 |
| ogra_ | it should have at least a long description (that d-i doesnt show i think) | 15:59 |
| xnox | ogra_: shall we ship gnome-session-fallback on arm then? | 16:08 |
| xnox | to unbreak desktop images | 16:08 |
| ogra_ | xnox, nope, we're waiting for NEW prosessing of libdrm2 and will then have the new GLES driver in the archive shortly after | 16:09 |
| ogra_ | no need to invest time into hacks | 16:09 |
| furan | is there some way to dump the sym versions using a kernel image? | 16:17 |
| furan | I tried looking at /proc/kallsyms but that doesn't give me the versions | 16:17 |
| rolf__ | I am running a padaboard. is a dist-upgrade from ubuntu 11.10 server to 12.04 server a standard procedure or is there anythins special to take care of? | 20:09 |
| rolf__ | How much time will such a dist-upgrade take? | 20:09 |
| infinity | rolf__: Given that 12.04 was the introduction of armhf as our supported arch, I'd recommend a reinstall. | 20:10 |
| infinity | rolf__: But dist-upgrading your armel install should work fine. | 20:10 |
| infinity | (It'll just not be armhf) | 20:11 |
| rolf__ | thank you | 20:14 |
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