/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/08/24/#ubuntu-desktop.txt

jasoncwarner_chrisccoulson: I love you...I'm in love with you.00:20
jasoncwarner_chrisccoulson: anyway I can test this yet? ppa or something?00:22
jasoncwarner_hey kenvandine I was trying to publish some pics with shotwell (to test webcredentials). it crashed and told me that I can't submit error b/c it wasn't an official app. is that b/c some parts of webcredentials/webapps are still in PPA?01:13
mhall119mfisch: if you have a game installed that doesn't show as a result for a search of "Game", then please file a bug to have "game" added to it's Keywords field01:13
mhall119search doesn't work on Categories01:13
mhall119last I heard anyway01:13
kenvandinejasoncwarner_, hummm01:13
kenvandineapt-cache policy shotwell01:14
mhall119because it wasn't a translatable field, categories are always only in English01:14
jasoncwarner_kenvandine just got the same crash again in shotwell...feels like I can do it at will by clicking on publish01:14
kenvandinewe need that stacktrace :)01:14
jasoncwarner_agh! ctrl+alt+t no longer gives me terminal?01:14
jasoncwarner_what is this? the 80s?01:14
kenvandineyou must have the PPA version though01:14
mhall119jasoncwarner_: works for me01:14
jasoncwarner_shotwell:01:14
jasoncwarner_  Installed: 0.12.3+webaccounts1-0quantal101:14
jasoncwarner_  Candidate: 0.12.3+webaccounts1-0quantal101:14
jasoncwarner_  Version table:01:14
jasoncwarner_ *** 0.12.3+webaccounts1-0quantal1 001:14
jasoncwarner_        500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/webapps/preview/ubuntu/ quantal/main amd64 Packages01:14
jasoncwarner_        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status01:14
jasoncwarner_     0.12.3-0ubuntu2 001:14
jasoncwarner_        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main amd64 Packages01:14
kenvandinesudo apt-get install shotwell/quantal01:14
kenvandineoh... the version!01:14
kenvandinesudo apt-get install shotwell/quantal01:15
kenvandinethat will fix it for now01:15
jasoncwarner_for now? is the wrong version in Q/01:15
jasoncwarner_?01:15
kenvandineand see if you get the same crash01:15
kenvandineno01:15
kenvandinethe wrong version number is in the PPA01:15
jasoncwarner_says I have newest version already01:15
kenvandinesudo apt-get install shotwell=0.12.3-0ubuntu201:16
jasoncwarner_says it will be downgraded, that ok?01:16
kenvandineyeah01:16
kenvandinedowngrading gets you a newer version of the patch :)01:16
jasoncwarner_oh my :)01:16
* kenvandine needs to think about the least insane way to fix the versioning01:17
jasoncwarner_blam...crash01:17
kenvandineawesome!01:17
kenvandinefile that bug!01:17
jasoncwarner_I would if it would popup a dialog..one sec, checking /var/crash01:17
kenvandinedelete the file in /var/crash01:18
kenvandineit is from the other version01:18
kenvandineand do it again01:18
kenvandinewhat service are you posting to?01:18
jasoncwarner_I just cleared my crashes01:18
jasoncwarner_I don't get that far01:18
jasoncwarner_just clicking on 'publish' crashes it01:18
kenvandineoh, interesting01:18
kenvandinethat might not even get to our code then01:18
jasoncwarner_now says I can't report it b/c it is an obsolete package :/01:19
jasoncwarner_going to file a bug manually01:19
kenvandineno... apply the updates01:20
kenvandinei'd rather get the stacktrace01:20
kenvandinei can't reproduce that bug01:20
jbicharobert_ancell: hey could you do a rebuild of compiz in -proposed to build against the new metacity?01:26
jbichayou could bump the build-depends to >= 2.34.2 too if you like01:28
jasoncwarner_kenvandine: will do, having LP problems right now reporting bug01:28
kenvandinejasoncwarner_, fun times :)01:28
jbichametacity's not currently installable since g-c-c broke older versions01:28
jasoncwarner_btw..anyone know where ctrl+alt+t went? is this b/c of gconf transition?01:28
kenvandinejasoncwarner_, i suspect01:28
kenvandineseb128 said he wanted to hear about any keybinding issues01:29
kenvandinei don't even have a working unity right now :)01:29
jbichajasoncwarner_: yeah, I tried testing a gsettings override for a custom keybinding but it wasn't working01:29
jasoncwarner_kenvandine: k, I'll mention it to him as one of his 10,000 pings he'll get tonight :)01:29
kenvandinei am just lucky xchat-gnome is the window wit focus :)01:29
jbichaunfortunately the gnome devs dropped the explicit keyboard shortcut for Launch Terminal in 3.4 :(01:29
jasoncwarner_kenvandine: nice01:29
kenvandinedamn staging ppa!01:29
jasoncwarner_jbicha: I know, right? we'll get it sorted :)01:29
jbichathey thought nobody used the shortcut I guess or that terminal shouldn't be special01:30
kenvandineoh, so maybe that is unrelated01:30
jbichawe had a gconf override in mutter but that doesn't help now01:30
jbichakeyboard shortcut overrides are currently being shipped in gsettings-desktop-schemas, I've got a new package pending review to move most of our overrides to one place in ubuntu-default-settings01:32
jbichacool thing about gsettings is that we can set multiple values for keyboard shortcuts so ctrl+super+left does the same as super+left01:33
jbichabut the UI in System Settings>Keyboard at least in 3.4 doesn't expose that ability01:33
kenvandineok, purged ppa... bbiab01:36
kenvandine:-D01:36
* kenvandine crosses fingers01:36
robert_ancelljbicha, hey, still applicable?02:28
jbicharobert_ancell: yes02:29
robert_ancelljbicha, ok, will do02:29
robert_ancellkenvandine, hey, who did the uoa patch for shotwell?03:39
kenvandinerobert_ancell, amigadave03:42
robert_ancellkenvandine, it's super complicated to update03:42
kenvandineugh03:43
kenvandinegot a new release?03:43
robert_ancellkenvandine, yeah03:43
kenvandineamigadave is out until tuesday03:43
robert_ancellI got 90% of it updated03:43
kenvandinemardy worked on it too03:43
kenvandinecan you push what you have somewhere and file a bug?03:44
kenvandinei can get mardy to try to finish it tomorrow03:44
kenvandineif he doesn't have time i'll take a stab at it03:46
robert_ancellkenvandine, bug 104101104:00
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1041011 in shotwell "Update to 0.12.90" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104101104:00
kenvandinerobert_ancell, thanks!04:01
pittiBonjour04:23
robert_ancelljbicha, btw, do you know if pango 1.31.0 is for the GNOME 3.6 release or not?04:33
jbicharobert_ancell: no04:37
jbichaI assume it is, but I believe it would need a ffe now :|04:38
robert_ancelljbicha, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/1:0.9.8+bzr3319-0ubuntu205:05
jbicharobert_ancell: thanks!05:12
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chrisccoulsongood morning everyone07:18
mlankhorstmorning07:20
chrisccoulsonhi07:21
jibelhm, this morning upgrade on Quantal08:03
jibelThe following packages have unmet dependencies:08:03
jibel gnome-control-center : Breaks: metacity (< 1:2.34.2) but 1:2.34.1-1ubuntu11 is to be installed08:03
jibel metacity : Depends: libmetacity-private0a (= 1:2.34.3-3ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed08:05
seb128jibel, is that fixed with quantal-proposed compiz's update?08:12
jibelseb128, let me try08:12
jibelseb128, yes http://paste.ubuntu.com/1164006/08:15
jibelit removes libmetacity-private0a08:16
jibelor rather installs :)08:16
seb128installing it seems normal08:16
seb128jibel, yeah, that looks correct08:16
seb128thanks for verifying08:16
jibelseb128, is it correct to mark metacity upgrade bugs as dupe of bug 1022756 ?08:17
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1022756 in metacity "Update to 2.34.3" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102275608:17
seb128jibel, yes, and you can mark it fix released08:18
jibeldone08:19
seb128jibel, 'ci08:20
jibelyw08:20
seb128chrisccoulson, hey08:20
chrisccoulsonuploading firefox from my home connection was almost as fast as doing it from chinstrap!08:21
chrisccoulsonhi seb128, how are you?08:21
seb128;-)08:21
pittibonjour08:21
seb128chrisccoulson, I'm good thanks, how are you?08:21
chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, not too bad thanks. although, my connection is actually slightly less reliable than my old one08:21
seb128oh :-(08:21
pittiseb128, jibel: ah, thanks; I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/1163912/ and wondered how to get out of this hole08:21
seb128chrisccoulson, did you have time to look at the libmessaging-menu tb work?08:21
chrisccoulsonit disconnected a couple of times overnight :(08:22
chrisccoulsonseb128, i'm looking at that this morning ;)08:22
chrisccoulson(alongside handling the ff/tb releases)08:22
chrisccoulsonbad timing ;)08:22
seb128pitti, enable proposed (or get compiz moved to quantal) ;-)08:22
seb128pitti, hey btw, wie gehts?08:22
pittiseb128: je vais bien beaucoup, merci!08:22
chrisccoulsonhi pitti, how are you?08:22
pittij'écris ... more testcases for gvfs08:23
seb128pitti, c'est vendredi !08:23
chrisccoulsonseb128, i managed to protected video working in flash last night :)08:23
seb128chrisccoulson, oh, you finally defeated it ;-)08:24
pittiseb128: j'aime écrire tests au quotidien!08:24
chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, i've managed to trick flash in to thinking that hal still exists08:24
pittiseb128: if compiz is ready for quantal, I'm happy to move it08:25
seb128pitti, did you really learn "quotidien" already or did you cheat with google translator for that one? :p08:25
seb128pitti, if it builds on all archs it's ready (didn't check yet)08:26
pittiseb128: no, for that I cheated with dict.leo.org08:26
pittiseb128: I did; moving08:26
seb128pitti, ;-)08:26
pittiseb128: I didn't know vendredi yet either08:26
seb128chrisccoulson, crap technologies built on ancien crap technologies ... great!08:26
chrisccoulsonseb128, yeah, it sucks08:26
chrisccoulsonbut i'm glad i got it working without actually depending on hal ;)08:27
jibelI filed bug 1040877 yesterday. Anyone know which additional info I could provide to move it forward ?08:27
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1040877 in python-qt4 "python-qt4 based apps crash on Quantal" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104087708:27
pitti"j'écris plus tests pour gvfs"?08:27
seb128pitti, hum, I'm not sure if duolingo has a "days of the week" lesson now that you mention it08:27
pittiseb128: I'm desperately missing a "numbers" lesson as well; but I guess I can learn those from other places08:27
seb128pitti, if you mean "more tests" it's "plus de tests"08:28
pittiseb128: ah, of course, merci08:28
seb128pitti, there is a "numbers" lesson (at least in the german duolingo tree, dunno if they have the same themes for all language though)08:29
seb128pitti, it's further down the tree so you might not have unblocked it yet08:29
seb128pitti, look at my or robert_ancell german's lessons tree08:30
pittiseb128: yes, in the German one, but not in French08:30
pittiI did look at your's08:30
seb128oh08:30
seb128there is one in french08:30
seb128it's very down though08:30
seb128well I assume the "1 2 3" icon down there is numbers08:30
pittiah, perhaps I didn't look far enough08:31
seb128it's like at the middle of the list08:31
* pitti restarts i386 retracer, looks like temporary LP error08:32
RAOFpitti: Have you noticed the duplicate detector going mad recently? I got a gwibber-service crash redirected to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/929219 , but the top 4 frames of my gwibber crash were in libdbus, rather than libc.08:33
ubot2`Ubuntu bug 929219 in eglibc "chromium-browser, gvfsd-http and others using eglibc crash with SIGSEGV in __nscd_get_mapping() or gethostbyname2_r()" [High,Fix released]08:33
pittiRAOF: no, I didn't notice08:34
seb128jibel, that python-qt bug is not nice, would be interesting to see if that still happens if you uninstall the overlay-scrollbars (we had issues with those before)08:34
pittiRAOF: there might be a bug pattern for it?08:34
seb128RAOF, somebody might have dupped the master bug for your issue on this one08:35
RAOFMaybe.08:35
pitti    <pattern url="https://launchpad.net/bugs/929219">08:35
pitti        <re key="ProblemType">^Crash</re>08:35
pitti        <re key="ThreadStacktrace">gethostbyname2_r ?()</re>08:35
pitti        <re key="Dependencies">libc6 2.15(~pre|-0ubuntu[1-6])</re>08:35
pitti    </pattern>08:35
pitti^ current bug pattern08:35
ubot2`pitti: Error: Could not parse data returned by Ubuntu: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/929219)08:35
pittiRAOF: est-ce votre bug?08:36
RAOFHm. *one* of the threads does appear to be in a gethostbyname stack, but that's not the thread that SIGSEGVd08:37
RAOFAnyway, the backtrace looks a bit like this is the same crash that's affecting gconf-using-mono apps.08:38
RAOFOoop. Baby time.08:38
pittic'est l'heur du jogging, bbl09:00
seb128pitti, bon sport!09:00
pittimeh, of course it just started raining09:04
jibelseb128, that's it. apps run fine with LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=009:05
seb128jibel, "great" ... thanks for confirming09:05
jibelseb128, I'll update the report and assign to your team09:06
seb128ok :-(09:06
seb128hate qt and hate those scrollbars :p09:06
seb128can we just drop both and declare the bug fixed? ;-)09:06
jibelI lost desktop shotcuts and windows operation with the mouse like moving/resizing doesn't work after upgrading to latest compiz. Is it a known issue ?09:30
seb128jibel, does gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences mouse-button-modifier '<Alt>' fixes it?09:31
seb128jibel, if it does it's  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1041105 (GNOME moved the default key for those actions from alt to super)09:32
ubot2`Ubuntu bug 1041105 in gsettings-desktop-schemas "Alt-leftclick-dnd does not work anymore" [Low,Confirmed]09:32
jibelseb128, it fixes the mouse, right09:32
jibelbut not CTRL+ALT+T to open a terminal09:32
seb128that's another bug09:32
jibeland I have horrible desktop effects when I restore a window09:33
jibeland apport-gtk crashes :(09:33
seb128like an unfolding paper?09:33
jibelseb128, hm not really unfolding, more like windows are pouring from the launcher into the desktop09:39
jibeland lost my custom shortcuts, I hate migrations09:41
jibelpitti, I got bug 1039889 after upgrading to the latest compiz, gnome-settings, g-c-c09:43
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1039889 in apport "apport-gtk crashed with configparser.DuplicateOptionError in _read(): While reading from /usr/share/applications/gnome-system-monitor.desktop [line 17]: option 'keywords' in section 'Desktop Entry' already exists" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103988909:43
seb128jibel, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1041119 is the animation bug09:50
ubot2`Ubuntu bug 1041119 in compiz "Unminimize animation changed from zoom, should be changed back" [Undecided,New]09:50
seb128jibel, what keybindings did you loose?09:51
pittijibel: merci, je vais regarder09:59
pittijibel: ah, that should be fixed in gnome-system-monitor as well, but I'll make apport not crash on it10:04
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pittichrisccoulson: are you sure that the .gnu_debuglink section needs to have the path of the file? even without pkgbinarymangler it only contains the build id hash file11:51
pittithat might be a red herring11:52
chrisccoulsonpitti - no, see my second comment11:52
pitti(it's still broken, though, I'm currently looking why)11:52
chrisccoulsonthe issue is just that pkg-create-dbgsym installs the files in to the wrong location11:52
pittiah11:52
pittiI just compared objdump -s -j .gnu_debuglink debian/dhtest1/usr/bin/crash, and they are identical11:53
pittioh, I see the problem, right11:53
pittihm, so how do I compute that hash directory value11:55
* pitti RTFM http://sourceware.org/gdb/onlinedocs/gdb/Separate-Debug-Files.html11:56
jasoncwarner_hey Sweetshark I see the lo_menubar is in11:57
jasoncwarner_and now I have two menu bars ;)11:57
pittiah, from the .note.gnu.build-id section11:58
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jdstrandseb128: hi! I am trying to run evolution in a nested X server (xpra to be exact, but same thing with xephyr), but I get 'XServer appears to lack required GLX support'. is there an environment variable I can pass to make evolution use fallback mode (ie, I am assuming that it believes it is running 3D and can actually run under 2D)12:40
seb128jdstrand, hey, I don't know, it actual uses 3d (they use clutter for animations, which starts being a common practice in GNOME)12:41
seb128cyphermox, ^ do you know?12:41
jdstrandseb128: right, I just know upstream has had something called 'gnome-fallback' and was hoping applications would degrade gracefully12:42
seb128jdstrand, no, they are talking to drop "fallback" because in practice it's not supported12:42
jdstrandI see12:42
seb128jdstrand, their "fallback" is basically gnome-panel as a shell12:42
seb128but it doesn't solve the issue of increase number of components using 3d with nobody working on getting those work in fallback mode12:43
seb128they are having a discussion about dropping fallback and just using llvmpipe for their fallback mode12:43
seb128(basically getting back to what we are doing as well)12:43
jdstrandseb128: would it be possible to use llvm_pipe with a nested X server?12:44
seb128jdstrand, I don't know, maybe tjaalton or mlankhorst know?12:44
tjaaltonjdstrand: you'd probably want libgl1-mesa-swx11 then, but it didn't build with the current mesa snapshot, so it got dropped at least for now12:46
jdstrandtjaalton: assuming libgl1-mesa-swx11 starts compiling again, how does one use it with say, xpra12:47
tjaaltonjdstrand: sorry, haven't run that myself12:48
tjaaltonbut i guess it's enough if you have it installed12:48
jdstrandtjaalton: well, any nested xserver really12:48
tjaaltonis this quantal?12:48
jdstrandtjaalton: yes12:48
tjaaltonif you have a precise install to test on it would be nice to know we actually still need swx11 :)12:48
jdstrandI have plenty of VMs :)12:49
tjaaltongood :)12:49
mlankhorstjdstrand: does xephyr work?13:04
mlankhorstI can get glxinfo showing llvmpipe just fine there13:05
mlankhorstsimilar for next though13:07
mlankhorstxnest*13:09
* mlankhorst will retry on intel13:09
mlankhorstworks just fine for me13:12
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xnoxwhere do we set "gtk-button-images" False?13:58
xnoxI am seeing difference between ubiquity "install-only" and ubiquity "from live session"13:59
desrtxnox: it's a desktop-wide setting13:59
desrtit's controlled from gnome-settings-daemon13:59
desrtpresumably in response to a key in dconf13:59
xnoxand if gnome-settings-daemon is not running.... we don't get them13:59
xnox?13:59
seb128we never get them13:59
desrtif gnome-settings-daemon is not running... you're gonna have a bad time13:59
seb128it's off by default13:59
seb128desrt, well; think installer for example14:00
desrtinstaller doesn't run g-s-d?14:00
xnoxseb128: live-cd; boot; "Install Ubuntu"; the stock buttons have images14:00
seb128no in "ubiquity only" mode I think14:00
seb128xnox, that's a bug14:00
* desrt is familiar with that mode -- it doesn't work very well :)14:00
seb128ahah14:00
xnoxalso I have VirtualBox with 3D enables14:00
desrt(in fairness, i think i just downloaded a really bad nightly build)14:00
xnoxIt loads indicators in the "install-only" mode14:01
xnoxbut not in the desktop....14:01
xnoxso no panel & no dash visible =(14:01
xnoxam I suppose to wait for llvmpipe then?14:01
* desrt sure hopes that will land this cycle...14:02
xnoxi need to somehow do my work & be able to test the installer14:03
xnoxand I can't update it from the 'install-only' mode....14:03
xnoxwell I will be updating it from the TTY1 for now =/14:04
seb128xnox, what's the issue? is that icons or something else?14:04
xnoxi am developing ubiquity, so I need to have gnome-terminal and I can't launch it without dash =)14:04
xnoxso I ended up going to tty, copying gnome-terminal.desktop14:05
seb128go to vt1; DISPLAY=:0 ...14:05
xnoxbut then i can't switch between the two winwos.14:05
xnoxhm, ok that whould be better probably14:05
xnoxit's a pain. I usually had four windows open: 3 terminals & ubiquity.14:05
seb128but yeah, vm issues are known and been addressed14:05
seb128install gnome-fallback-session, logout, log back in gnome-classic14:06
seb128work from there?14:06
xnox"been addressed" as in fix-released and pending on a new daily?14:06
xnoxseb128: let me try that! =)14:06
seb128xnox, fix commited to compiz,unity trunk14:06
seb128xnox, like "in their trunk but still need to be tested and rolled out and packaged"14:07
xnoxcan I subscribe to that bug? =)14:07
xnox"please release and make my pain go away"14:07
xnoxvalid title, right?! =)))))14:08
cyphermoxseb128: jdstrand: I had no idea evo required GLX14:09
seb128xnox, https://bugs.launchpad.net/compiz/+bug/102110414:10
ubot2`Ubuntu bug 1021104 in compiz "Severe damage artefacts and flickering when using LLVMpipe" [Critical,Fix committed]14:10
seb128cyphermox, ok, no worry14:10
cyphermoxseb128: well, I was going to go ask in #evolution14:10
xnoxseb128: why fix-released when it's in proposed, shouldn't it be 'fix committed' in line with SRUs....14:11
xnoxeven thought it's not an SRU, but devel release14:12
seb128xnox, yeah, status might be wrong14:14
desrtSweetshark: hey.14:39
desrtSweetshark: can you point me at the GMenuModel code for LO?14:39
Sweetsharkdesrt: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=core.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/feature/unitymenus14:43
* Sweetshark in call14:43
desrtcheers14:43
dpmhi pitti. Although Q translations in LP are open and the LP are running, I've been spending less time on translations this cycle and haven't had the chance to look at building the first Q language pack. I'll see if I can do this today or Monday. Just a question: does the same procedure in the langpack-o-matic guide to build stable release langpacks apply to building development release langpacks?14:48
dpmor is there any particular difference in e.g. doing the upload?14:49
dpm(I mean full language packs)14:49
jdstrandseb128: fyi, I was able to get evolution to run in xpra by using a custom xvfb arg. Eg: '/usr/bin/xpra start :3 --no-daemon --no-clipboard --no-pulseaudio --xvfb="Xorg -dpi 96 -nolisten tcp -noreset -logfile ~/.xpra/:3.log -auth ~/.Xauthority -config ~/xorg.conf +extension Composite +extension GLX +extension RANDR +extension RENDER"'14:54
jdstrandseb128: where ~/xorg.conf is loosely based on /usr/share/doc/xpra/examples/dummy.xorg.conf.gz14:54
jdstrandin other words, I used xserver-xorg-video-dummy14:55
seb128jdstrand, oh ok, thanks ... so the +extension arg are the key there I guess14:55
jdstrandseb128: they are, but you need to have an xserver that supports them. Xvfb does not14:56
jdstrandI tried the --xvfb="Xvfb ..." but it didn't work14:56
seb128ok14:56
* jdstrand is curious if it would work in xephyr14:57
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sorenIs there any way to figure out which application is sending a particular messages over dbus? In dbus-monitor I can see the sender-id, but it's just some number.15:05
desrtsoren: yup.  pop open d-feet15:05
desrtsoren: look up that number on the left column15:05
desrtthe right will tell you pid, executable, etc15:05
desrtyou could also dig the info out yourself using the commandline15:06
sorenLovely. Thanks!15:06
sorenHow so?15:06
desrtgdbus call --session --dest org.freedesktop.DBus --object-path / --method org.freedesktop.DBus.GetConnectionUnixProcessID ':1.97'15:07
desrtlike so15:07
desrtwill give you the pid15:07
desrtthen you can do your own snooping from there15:07
pittidpm: sorry, was in a meeting15:10
pittidpm: yes, it's the same procedure as building fresh -base packs15:10
mvopitti: with glatzor away, do you think you could have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mvo/aptdaemon/support-for-whitelisted-repositories at some point later :) ?15:10
pittidpm: i. e. mkdir quantal15:10
pittidpm: but I really need to run now, sorry; TTY on Monday!15:10
pittibonne nuit des filles et des garçons!15:10
pittimvo: Monday morning ok? I need to run15:11
dpmpitti, thanks and have a nice WE!15:11
mvopitti: sure15:11
mvopitti: have a great WE15:11
sorendesrt: Neat. Thanks!15:12
antarusSo notifyOSD...I really want clickable URLs in my bubble notifications16:23
antaruswho do I need to bribe / convince to make this happen? :)16:23
cyphermoxseb128: bug 1038573: could we just not delete the pango.modules file? It's going to be left over cruft though :/16:24
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1038573 in pango1.0 "Unreadable messages displayed during Lucid -> Precise upgrade" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103857316:24
seb128cyphermox, I guess we could...16:25
cyphermoxok16:25
seb128cyphermox, and drop it post precise16:25
cyphermoxright16:25
cyphermoxI'm going to start looking into the fix now16:25
desrtsetting "Key to show the HUD" to Shift+Ctrl+Alt+Super+ScrollLock has no effect20:13
desrtknown bug?20:13
jbichadesrt: user error?20:19
desrtjbicha: i intend to set it to a keystroke that i will never ever ever type20:24
jbichadid you try Backspace?20:25
desrtas opposed to having it false-trigger once an hour because i happened to use the alt key in a way that it feels belongs to it20:25
desrtjbicha: ya.  disabled also means that alt is still used20:25
jbichathat's the bug I believe then20:26
jbichaDisabled should mean Disabled20:26
desrti agree20:26
jbichaDoes that gui option even work?20:31
desrtseems to do nothing at all20:32
seb128desrt, you picked the right day,week to try that... ;-)20:34
desrtseb128: hm?20:34
desrtit used to work?20:34
seb128desrt, it was working until yesterday, were we landing the compiz-gsettings port20:35
desrtahh20:35
desrtokay.  i will stop complaining, then :)20:35
seb128desrt, but tons of stuff and Didier is not sure, I couldn't be picky on such details20:35
seb128doh20:35
seb128"where we landed*"20:35
desrtthat's why i wanted to know if it was a known issue20:35
desrtit seemed too obvious to be accidentally broken20:35
seb128there are some fallouts from the gsettings migration20:36
seb128but it mostly went fine, it's a few issues like that20:36
desrtmissing schemas and stuff? :)20:36
seb128no, none of those ;-)20:36
* desrt will try harder20:36
jbichathe bugs I've seen so far are bug 1040954 & bug 96592120:36
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1040954 in gnome-settings-daemon "Ctrl-Alt-T and custom shortcuts lost in gsettings transition, as of 3.4.2-0ubuntu9" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104095420:36
seb128so far it's mostly migration details20:36
ubot2`Launchpad bug 965921 in gnome-control-center "gnome-shell most keyboard shortcuts not working" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/96592120:36
seb128gnome-shell being crap is nothing new :p20:36
jbichaoh not that one, bug 104116920:36
ubot2`Launchpad bug 1041169 in compiz "custom keyboard shortcuts not migrated after upgrade to compiz 1:0.9.8+bzr3319-0ubuntu2 (dup-of: 1040954)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104116920:36
jbichaseb128: no, no, gnome shell is fixed now :)20:37
seb128;-)20:37
desrtstill quite some things using gconf :(20:37
seb128it's friday, I can troll right? ;-)20:37
seb128desrt, we got compiz and evolution20:37
seb128desrt, what is remaining? I didn't check recently20:37
desrtand gnome-control-center will probably be okay soon too, i guess?20:37
desrtseb128: tonnes of stuff20:37
seb128desrt, g-c-c should already be ok?20:38
desrtrhythmbox, update-notifier, unity, compiz, nautilus-share, nm-gnome, gnome-terminal, ibus, gstreamer-gconf, pulseaudio-gconf, indicators, gksu, gnome-media, ...20:38
desrtuninstalling libgconf tries to uninstall g-c-c as well20:38
seb128weird20:38
desrtprobably some vendorpatch weirdness still in there over the keybinding thing20:39
seb128desrt, oh, hey, not keybinding, but a tiny detail in the soundnua capplet20:40
seb128will fix that next week20:40
desrtprobably the other end of the pulse-gconf thing20:40
desrtand devhelp.... lol20:40
seb128isn't that the first thing you test ported? :p20:41
desrtfirst ever app to be ported to gsettings will be the last app to stop using gconf20:41
* desrt needs to smack fpeters20:41
desrtwith a diffstat like this.... http://git.gnome.org/browse/devhelp/commit/?h=gsettings&id=6c58217e5b6f7b8a4803ed5382dbf29c383c210720:41
desrtcome on!20:41
desrti could probably 'unbreak' that migration now that we have gsettings-desktop-schemas20:42
seb128chrisccoulson, wb20:47
kenvandineseb128, you should be resting :)20:51
kenvandinelarsu, your tp-indicator diff sure is huge!20:52
seb128kenvandine, I'm free time hacking (on xchat-gnome :p)20:52
kenvandinewoot20:52
kenvandine1313 line diff20:52
* kenvandine wasn't expecting that20:52
chrisccoulsonhmm, i wish i hadn't restarted my machine21:13
chrisccoulsoncompiz lost all my settings, my 3g modem stopped working and edge scrolling no longer works21:13
chrisccoulsonhappy feature freeze!21:13
robruyaaaay!21:14
seb128chrisccoulson, what settings did it loose?21:17
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chrisccoulsonit's all the kernels fault!21:24
chrisccoulson(well, the broken 3g modem and broken touchpad"21:24
jbichascrolling all the way up on the sound indicator maxes the volume, scrolling up in System Settings mutes it22:41
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