[07:56] <omnipotentfaggot> hello folks! does anyone know anything about Canonical's new CEO, Jane Silber?
[07:56] <omnipotentfaggot> (Mark Shuttleworth's successor)
[07:59] <AlanBell> omnipotentfaggot: that isn't very new news
[08:03] <travelhard> hi to all
[08:52] <omnipotentfaggot> when is ubuntu going to overtake windows?
[08:52] <AlanBell> already has
[08:53] <AlanBell> it is much better
[08:53] <omnipotentfaggot> I mean in popularity
[08:54] <k1l> AlanBell++ :)
[08:55] <AlanBell> hard to say really, they don't seem to be targetting the desktop at work very much
[08:55] <AlanBell> it is becoming a home user operating system really
[08:56] <AlanBell> Mac is the main competition, Windows is just inertia in the workplace
[08:57] <omnipotentfaggot> if any hardware manufacturing company would actually sell ubuntu computers that'd be a start. Dell did at one point, under the table
[08:57] <omnipotentfaggot> windows is trying to squeeze out the competition. e.g. with secured boot so you can't install any other operating system but the factory-installed one (Windows) without modifying the hardware
[08:58] <k1l> the problem is the microsofts market power. if you take a look at the netbook history you know what i mean
[08:59] <k1l> and with the secureboot thing on arm they demand back the arm market, which they obviously lost
[08:59] <AlanBell> Dell is going to sell an ultrabook again
[08:59] <omnipotentfaggot> 'arm'?
[09:00] <k1l> omnipotentfaggot: the other cpu architecture than x86. its build in in smartphones and tablets etc
[09:00] <omnipotentfaggot> 32-bit, 64-bit...
[09:02]  * popey hugs his arm laptop
[09:02] <popey> and tablet
[09:02] <popey> \o/ ubuntu
[09:02] <k1l> i have a ubuntu port on my hp touchpad. but its really alpha state
[09:03] <omnipotentfaggot> http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/dell
[09:03] <AlanBell> popey: the Asus transformer infinity should be out next week here
[09:03] <AlanBell> would love one of those running Ubuntu
[09:04] <popey> is it tegra3?
[09:04] <omnipotentfaggot> k1l it's a tablet?
[09:04] <AlanBell> yes
[09:04] <k1l> omnipotentfaggot: yes?
[09:04] <omnipotentfaggot> cool. is it useable?
[09:04] <popey> my SmartQ T20 has Ubuntu on it
[09:04] <AlanBell> there were two processor options, but I think the quad core tegra 3 is the one we get
[09:05] <popey> Ubuntu doesn't work very well on tablets right now
[09:05] <k1l> omnipotentfaggot: early alpha state. thats enough to say i think :)
[09:05] <popey> AlanBell, what was the other option? please say OMAP4?
[09:07] <omnipotentfaggot> the ubuntu.com page about dell is kind of funny. "Dell and Canonical engineers collaborate every day to certify Dell hardware on Ubuntu, to a level that customers can rely on." i have a new dell laptop and I had to manually edit some code to get headphones to work when i installed ubuntu
[09:08] <k1l> i got an old dell and it runs ootb :)
[09:09] <elky> my 2009-ish dell is ootb too
[09:09] <AlanBell> Qualcomm® MSM 8260A Snapdragon™ S4 Krait Dual-core 1.5Ghz CPU(3G )
[09:09] <AlanBell> NVIDIA® Tegra® 3 Quad-core T33@ 1.6GHz (WIFI)
[09:10] <AlanBell> are the two processor options popey, but I only see tegra3 mentioned in recent articles
[09:10] <AlanBell> probably because we don't get the funky 4G mobile signal in the UK
[09:13] <popey> omnipotentfaggot, most new dells should 'just work', pretty much every dell model is certified to run ubuntu
[09:13] <omnipotentfaggot> now is a quad-core processor in a tablet actually equivalent to a laptop's quad-core?
[09:13] <omnipotentfaggot> popey - including Studio 17
[09:14] <omnipotentfaggot> ?
[09:14] <popey> i dont know that particular model, but we work with them to certify them all
[09:14] <AlanBell> it is just quad core, most quad core laptops are quad core hyperthreaded, so appear as 8 distinct processing units
[09:15] <omnipotentfaggot> I love ubuntu, but I have to say "just works" has been just the opposite of my experience :)
[09:15] <omnipotentfaggot> just as well tho
[09:16] <popey> yeah, everyone has those experiences now and then
[09:16]  * popey stabs the wifi in his imac
[09:16] <omnipotentfaggot> learning to pop the hood to fix a problem teaches you how to pop the hood for creative purposes
[09:25] <omnipotentfaggot> one thing that is absolutely fantastic is the level of documentation for every single error I have encountered on ubuntu. you can google your way out of any problem. you don't even need to come on IRC and ask for help
[20:54] <icequeen> howdy
[21:16] <MrChrisDruif> Aloha sissyphus
[21:18] <sissyphus> what's up friend?
[21:19] <MrChrisDruif> Nothing much, just some ceiling.... ;-)
[21:24] <sissyphus> lol. that took me a minute
[21:45] <MrChrisDruif> Almost of to bed tbh
[21:45] <sissyphus> jeez, are you in europe?
[21:46] <MrChrisDruif> No, I'm in Holland ;-P
[21:46] <MrChrisDruif> Sorry, troll-mode seems on.
[21:46] <MrChrisDruif> But yeah, Europe. CEST timezone