[03:29] <paradizelost> hey all, i'm trying to get x11vnc running on :0 through xinetd, any recommendations?
[03:30] <paradizelost> everything i'm finding wants me to install lightdm or gdm
[03:31] <paradizelost> !x11vnc
[03:41] <lickalott> Gents, trying to mount an NFS share from my ubuntu server to a windows 7 laptop.  Installed the M$ NFS client add-on but can't seem to get it to mount. Anyone have any experience with this?  google is failing me.
[03:44] <lickalott> btw: i get "Error connecting to NFS WMI provider" when trying to use the NFS interface that comes with MS
[04:22] <brianp1992> how do i use swat to config samba so i can share my /media/share as a windows share i can acess anywhere on my network
[04:55] <Portaljacker> hi, i need some help with apache and ftp
[04:55] <Portaljacker> i installed lamp using task-sel when root was my only user, now i have a user in the admin group and when i use ftp and navigate to /var/www i can't add files or change the permissions
[04:57] <ffunenga> root was your only user? are you using ubuntu server 12.04?
[04:57] <Portaljacker> yes
[04:58] <Portaljacker> i have a vps
[04:58] <Portaljacker> not only user
[04:58] <Portaljacker> it had the other default ones
[04:58] <Portaljacker> i made the user portaljacker and put it in the admin group pretty quickly
[04:59] <Portaljacker> had to create the admin group then enable sudo priviledges
[04:59] <Portaljacker> but i did it
[05:01] <ffunenga> have you tried adding portaljacker to the sudo group?
[05:01] <Portaljacker> it is
[05:01] <Portaljacker> i sudo often :P
[05:02] <Portaljacker> root seems to be the owner of www
[05:02] <KM0201> well, sudo'ing when not necessary is just as bad as running everything as root
[05:03] <Portaljacker> i know
[05:03] <Portaljacker> but when i go in on ftp i can't upload to the www folder
[05:03] <Portaljacker> which i sort of need to do to edit a website
[05:03] <Portaljacker> or even put one up
[05:04] <Portaljacker> i was told in #ubuntu that www-data becomes the owner when it runs and accesses www?
[05:04] <Portaljacker> does that mean i need to add the user i log in to ftp with into the www-data group?
[05:05] <ffunenga> I dont think thats the right way... how are the permissions in the "ls -l /var/www"
[05:07] <Portaljacker> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 237 Aug 24 02:40 index.html
[05:07] <Portaljacker> but i had to create that file with sudo
[05:07] <Portaljacker> no other way
[05:08] <ffunenga> actualy, I think I would try something like "chown -R portaljacker:portaljacker /var/www" and then from there give permissions to the group
[05:08] <Portaljacker> portaljacker@yuki:~$ ls -l /var | grep www drwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 Aug 24 03:24 www
[05:08] <Portaljacker> portaljacker@yuki:~$ ls -l /var | grep wwwdrwxr-xr-x  2 root root  4096 Aug 24 03:24 www
[05:08] <Portaljacker> portaljacker@yuki:~$ ls -l /var | grep wwwdrwxr-xr-x2 root root  4096 Aug 24 03:24 www
[05:08] <Portaljacker> derp
[05:08] <Portaljacker> portaljacker@yuki:~$ ls -l /var | grep www drwxr-xr-x
[05:09] <Portaljacker> 2 root root  4096 Aug 24 03:24 www
[05:09] <Portaljacker> whoops
[05:09] <Portaljacker> the line split is after grep www
[05:13] <ffunenga> maybe something like: "chown -R portaljacker:admin /var/www ; chmod g+rxw /var/www"
[05:14] <Portaljacker> what does the first part do exactly? i know the second part sets the permissions of the group to rxw
[05:18] <ffunenga> the first part changes the owner and group of the directory . maybe you should try the second command, then try the ftp upload, then the first command
[05:20] <Portaljacker> the group in the second command is the group of the current user? or the owner of the directory?
[05:21] <Portaljacker> did the second command then logged in on ftp and could not create a directory
[05:22] <ffunenga> ok wait
[05:22] <ffunenga> now you have "ls -l /var/www" ->  drwxrwxr-x
[05:23] <Portaljacker> yes, shows that in the ftp client
[05:24] <Portaljacker> that command doesn't give that output
[05:24] <Portaljacker> it shows the permissions of the files in www
[05:24] <Portaljacker> but not of www
[05:24] <ffunenga> I'm not sure about this but, try "sudo useradd -G www-data portaljacker"
[05:24] <Portaljacker> that adds portaljacker to www-data?
[05:24] <ffunenga> yes, that adds your user to that group
[05:25] <ffunenga> wich is the group any webserver uses to access /var/www
[05:25] <Portaljacker> useradd: user 'portaljacker' already exists
[05:26] <Portaljacker> i think i'll just use webmin to add portaljacker to the group
[05:27] <Portaljacker> nope
[05:27] <Portaljacker> couldn't create the directory with ftp
[05:29] <Portaljacker> so now what?
[05:30] <ffunenga> maybe you should create a folder in your home folder
[05:31] <ffunenga> and tell apache to publish from folder
[05:31] <ffunenga> (that apache's config  is made at /etc/apache2/...)
[05:32] <ffunenga> btw, do not forget to reverse the permissions "chmod g-w /var/www"
[05:32] <Portaljacker> i guess i could just do that first part
[05:33] <Portaljacker> making my user the owner of the folder?
[05:34] <Portaljacker> or i could log into ftp as root, what's the worst that could...i can't finish that sentence without imagining my server as a pile of ashes
[05:34] <anotheruser> +1 for ffunenga solution
[05:34] <Portaljacker> ya but there should be a way for it to work from www
[05:34] <Portaljacker> that's how it's made to work in the first place
[05:35] <Portaljacker> i'm not the first to ever do this
[05:35] <Portaljacker> it's not exactly extraordinary to put your website in /var/www
[05:36] <anotheruser> i missed the beginning of the question, but as soon as you want to host several websites, for several users, better to put them in the home folder of said users
[05:36] <Portaljacker> which is why i'm wondering why it's so damned hard to upload a file into that folder via ftp
[05:37] <ffunenga> have you thought about using ssh?
[05:37] <Portaljacker> i do
[05:37] <anotheruser> sftp?
[05:37] <Portaljacker> this doesn't eliminate the root issue
[05:37] <Portaljacker> root owns that folder
[05:37] <Portaljacker> which is apparently good
[05:37] <anotheruser> if you just give the whole var/www folder to www-data, and log in as www-data, should work probably
[05:38] <Portaljacker> but that means i can't edit files without root access
[05:38] <Portaljacker> it should
[05:38] <Portaljacker> but i've heard that it's bad :P
[05:38] <Portaljacker> one sec
[05:38] <Portaljacker> http://serverfault.com/questions/69685/what-user-should-own-var-www-on-ubuntu-9-04-server
[05:39] <anotheruser> well
[05:39] <anotheruser> that's true
[05:39] <anotheruser> but then , you can just give the folder to *any* user you create
[05:39] <anotheruser> as long as it's not root, it won't be a security issue
[05:40] <Portaljacker> that answer says to make the owner root:newgroup
[05:40] <Portaljacker> and add the users that need access to that group
[05:41] <anotheruser> i still prefer ffunenga solution, anyway :p
[05:41] <Portaljacker> of making a whole different folder?
[05:41] <anotheruser> Portaljacker, if you make root::newgroup
[05:41] <anotheruser> you have to change permissions too
[05:42] <anotheruser> (what are the current permissions on your /var/www ?)
[05:42] <Portaljacker> 755
[05:42] <anotheruser> so of course you can't create anything as the group
[05:43] <anotheruser> (5 is rx, you need the write too)
[05:43] <Portaljacker> so only the direct owner can write unless it's 775
[05:43] <anotheruser> yes
[05:44] <Portaljacker> so i guess i should make portaljacker:admin the owner and get it over with :P
[05:44] <ffunenga> yes. "chmod 775 /var/www ; chown -R root:newgroup /var/www"
[05:44] <Portaljacker> though i guess there's no downside to 775 over 755?
[05:44] <anotheruser> it just means that the group can write
[05:45] <anotheruser> if you trust all the users in the group, no problem
[05:45] <Portaljacker> and if i limit the group to one user (+root of course) it's not much of an issue?
[05:45] <anotheruser> yes, no problem at all then
[05:45] <Portaljacker> ok
[05:45] <Portaljacker> well, now i can finally set up wordpress XD
[05:46] <Portaljacker> root is always in every group right?
[05:48] <ffunenga> no
[05:48] <Portaljacker> woot, blog subfolder successfully created!
[05:48] <Portaljacker> ?
[05:49] <ffunenga> check "id root"
[05:49] <ffunenga> nice ! :) lol
[05:49] <Portaljacker> so root is part of only root
[05:49] <Portaljacker> ?
[05:49] <Portaljacker> but then why can i say root:newgroup without adding root to the group?
[05:51] <anotheruser> btw, since you weretalking about the effects of potential security flaws
[05:51] <anotheruser> one additional advantage of using custom folders for your website is that an attacker can't predict the path of your files on the server
[05:52] <ffunenga> Good question... I guess the owner and the group of the files are independent. I'm checking that hypothesis now
[05:52] <anotheruser> i mean, if for some reason the attacker gets the possibility to read a file (as it happened to my server yesterday thanks to phpmyadmin)
[05:52] <anotheruser> then he just has to open /var/www/config.php or some other sensible file and it's over
[05:53] <Portaljacker> how did he get to the point of being able to see the file?
[05:53] <anotheruser> if the file is in /home/myuser132424/my_strange_var_www_folder/config.php, it's harder to get
[05:54] <anotheruser> well, 4 security flaws in phpmyadmin that aren't fixed in ubuntu 10.04 LTS package...
[05:56] <Portaljacker> lovely
[05:57] <Portaljacker> so he could see your filesystem?
[05:58] <Portaljacker> couldn't he just search your file tree at that point for config.php?
[05:59] <anotheruser> just search
[05:59] <anotheruser> he couldn't see the filesystem
[05:59] <anotheruser> it's actually funny to see in the logs all the files that he tried to read at random
[06:01] <Portaljacker> so he basically had to guess your filesystem
[06:01] <Portaljacker> lol
[06:01] <Portaljacker> i get the point
[06:02] <Portaljacker> i could always be crazy and make my www folder a git repo
[06:02] <Portaljacker> then i could just blow away the whole thing with a reclone
[06:04] <anotheruser> i'm not sure what exactly a git repo involves
[06:05] <Portaljacker> it saves all the changes you've made since the last commit
[06:05] <anotheruser> but don't do anything that leaves files such as CVS folder or .svn files in your website folder
[06:05] <Portaljacker> oh ya
[06:05] <Portaljacker> ....
[06:05] <Portaljacker> same idea
[06:05] <anotheruser> that would be a huge security issue :p
[06:05] <Portaljacker> it would
[06:05] <Portaljacker> but then again
[06:06] <Portaljacker> they need my rsa password to affect the remote repo
[06:06] <anotheruser> i don't know how it works for git, but for cvs i think, i once saw a website that could be hacked in a few seconds because of that....
[06:07] <Portaljacker> well apparently the .cvs and .svn folders hold passwords
[06:07] <Portaljacker> but in git i always set it to use an rsa key to authenticate
[06:08] <anotheruser> still i don't think it's a good idea
[06:08] <Portaljacker> probably not
[06:08] <anotheruser> use a git repo for your website, and then do a checkout or whatever to get the working copy of the website
[06:09] <Portaljacker> ya
[06:09] <Portaljacker> like have the reop elsewhere
[06:09] <Portaljacker> and copy it into www
[06:09] <Portaljacker> repo
[06:09] <Portaljacker> and just copy everything but the .git folder
[06:09] <Portaljacker> heck i could do it over ftp
[06:09] <Portaljacker> though it would be slower
[06:09] <anotheruser> yeah something like that
[06:10] <Portaljacker> anyway, it's a bit late and i'm getting tired
[06:10] <Portaljacker> i guess i'll be installing wordpress later :P
[06:11] <anotheruser> careful with wordpress too
[06:11] <anotheruser> especially custom themes etc.
[06:11] <anotheruser> keep it well up to date and only use trusted sources
[06:14] <Portaljacker> i intend to do so
[06:14] <Portaljacker> thanks
[08:02] <Stapper> Hi I have some Questions regarding NFS... I now use samba to share, but i only have *nix machines is it better to switch to NFS?
[08:23] <dax_roc> Morning all
[08:24] <dax_roc> What would cause an upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04 to become unresponsive, it continues to run just all tasks seem to freeze for about 30 - 40 seconds at times ?
[08:25] <dax_roc> It's not a hardware issue as it's the same symptoms on 3 different servers.
[09:12] <progre55> hi guys. I was doing and apt-get update on one of my servers, and getting "invoke-rc.d: initscript resolvconf, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing resolvconf (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1"
[09:12] <progre55> doing a google search shows some bugs with the same errors, but a bit unrelated
[09:26] <eutheria> i think i need a quick and dirty imap server to send test emails to, which would you guys recommend to use?
[09:35]  * _ruben slaps uvirtbot 
[09:36] <soren> Yikes!
[09:36] <soren> That's a lot of new bugs :)
[09:37] <_ruben> I propose we just ditch nova, it's bug-ridden apparently! :)
[09:37]  * soren admits the mail host backing uvirtbot may have had a couple of rough days and is catching up.
[09:47] <progre55> so guys, any advice with resolvconf, please? I'm getting getting "invoke-rc.d: initscript resolvconf, action "start" failed. dpkg: error processing resolvconf (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" while doing an apt-get update
[09:50] <_ruben> i'm guessing apt-get upgrade instead of apt-get update?
[09:51] <progre55> oh yeah, upgrade
[09:52] <progre55> and now the packages resolvconf is marked as crashed, and doing "apt-get -f install" throws the same error
[09:53] <progre55> here http://pastie.org/4579589
[11:25] <woozly> guys, how to change language for console info and other?
[11:25] <woozly> Error messages, Info messages..
[11:28] <reisi> woozly: see LANG, LC_ALL etc variables, locale (1)
[11:28] <woozly> reisi: thank you!
[11:29] <reisi> woozly: also there are language-pack-* packages
[11:29] <woozly> reisi: great! Thank you man!
[11:44] <patdk-lap> I can't believe how many people install stuff from my ppa, then email complaints
[11:45] <xnox> patdk-lap: i named my ppa "Danger do not use" and the email spam dropped off
[11:46] <greppy> xnox: did usage drop off as well?
[11:46] <xnox> greppy: that is irrelevant, I'm not paying the bandwidth =)
[11:58] <woozly> guys, where iptables config? I need to add rule to it
[11:58] <woozly> :/
[11:59] <woozly> or it disabled by default?
[12:00] <patdk-lap> it doesn't exist by default
[12:00] <patdk-lap> ufw exists, but disabled
[12:01] <woozly> oh... okay thanks!
[13:09] <KrizTmarK> hello any1 familiar to vpn
[13:13] <rbasak> !anyone | KrizTmarK
[13:38] <KrizTmarK> does any1 know the folder which the kernel on ubuntu is stored
[13:40] <genii-around> KrizTmarK: Usually in /boot
[13:46] <banyantree> Hey Guys =)
[13:47] <banyantree> i want to set up an email server. i need to set the ptr entry
[13:47] <banyantree> mx entry is already set
[13:47] <banyantree> does anybody know how to do this?
[13:50] <aheu> I maybe totally wrong but banyantree is this what you need -https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIND9ServerHowto#Reverse_Zone_File
[13:50] <banyantree> thx i will read it now
[13:51] <banyantree> hope its the right thing =)
[14:16] <Daviey> zul: Hey, nova, keystone, horizon and glance are all in the -proposed queue.
[14:16] <Daviey> zul: All bugs have a Precise task against them
[14:17] <zul> okies cool
[14:24] <njin> Hallo, I've got a machine running maas, then i create another one, run the cd, select install maas, setting everythings till it present the window where specify manually the name or the address, and another entry with maas (ip ddress) , but whatever i choose it request the name for this server (if blank maas assign it) and when hit enter it send sigkill or sigter and system poweroff. is this a bug ??(quantal) or I get wrong ?
[14:51] <tinyhippo> I've configured and tested ActiveDirectory authentication for my Ubuntu server, however, when I attempt to use sudo -i for an account which only exists on the server, and not in activedirectory - I get a message warning me that my password was incorrect (presumably, it tried to Auth against AD first) and then I become root (presumably when it auths against /etc/passwd /etc/shadow - any idea how to avoid getting thie Wrong Password ...
[14:51] <tinyhippo> ... message?
[15:23] <ninjai> how can I disable syslog?
[16:18] <Daviey> SpamapS: Hey, are you alive for the day?
[16:32] <SpamapS> Daviey: I am , whats up?
[16:43] <Daviey> SpamapS: hey, would you be able to sru review a few packages? :)
[16:44] <Daviey> SpamapS: One gotcha.. please can you not post the spammy comment from sru-accept into each bug please?
[16:44] <SpamapS> Daviey: Sure. I think slangasek is on shift today, but I can look too. :)
[16:45] <SpamapS> Daviey: spammy? Its informative, and, luscious.
[16:45] <Daviey> SpamapS: and mostly offtopic :)
[16:45] <Daviey> Dear Reporter who reported an upstream bug, please test our ubuntu packages kkthnx
[16:46] <Daviey> Precise, nova - keystone - horizon - glance. :)
[16:47] <Daviey> SpamapS: bug 1041120 is the meta-bug
[16:54] <SpamapS> Daviey: the reference to the reporter is just because we aren't sure who else to ask :) The rest is fairly important as it identifies the way we expect the packages to be tested. And the script that does that also maeks sure bug tasks are set right and such.. dunno if I feel like seaparating those two
[16:55] <Daviey> SpamapS: i can happily set the bug taks if you prefer?
[16:55] <Daviey> SpamapS: I just don't want to hijack bug reports TOO much
[17:03] <hallyn> stgraber: for lxc-start -d, i'm trying to decide how far to go.  i'ts trivial to just wait for 'running' state or 5 second timeout
[17:03] <hallyn> but if it immediately fails, we could catch that with a starting->aborting->stopping->stopped transtion,
[17:04] <hallyn> except that it's possible that the daemonized task starts after the container has already done all of those
[17:04] <hallyn> unlikely, but possible
[17:04] <hallyn> but i don't want to introduce a new api to have the container task wait to start starting until the daemonized task is ready for it.
[17:05] <hallyn> i suppose i can just declare it nigh-upon-impossible to have the container hit all those states before the daemonized task checks, and only handle the other cases
[17:06] <SpamapS> Daviey: how is that hijacking?
[17:07] <SpamapS> Daviey: also our report specifically looks for the comment to know when responses have come in.
[17:09] <Daviey> SpamapS: ok, do as you need.  It was just a request.
[17:11] <SpamapS> Daviey: noted that the comments are considered "spammy hijacking". You are the first to bring that to my attention. :p
[17:15] <Daviey> SpamapS: well, i could see why an upstream project might be sensitive to lotta downstream comments.
[17:16] <Daviey> and the downstream having the audacity to ask the reporter to test it, even if tey don't give two hoots about Ubuntu
[17:17] <hallyn> stgraber: well, the simple 'wait for running or timeout' is in lp:~serge-hallyn/ubuntu/quantal/lxc/lxc-start-d-wait
[17:17] <SpamapS> Daviey: thats a fair concern. Perhaps we can just leave off the "Dear reporter" one
[17:25] <Daviey> SpamapS: ok, thanks
[17:27] <hallyn> stgraber: hm, looks like my subsequent pushes went to ubuntu:lxc
[17:27] <SpamapS> Daviey: also it just ocurred to me that we're not doing full verification on at least nova. Right? We're just doing regression tests and the CI lab?
[17:32] <Daviey> SpamapS: a little more than that, but yes.. not complete coverage.  For example, in the last one.. we included fixes for SUSE that doesn't impact us.
[17:32] <Daviey> There was scope for regression, but this is exactly why we are so involved with the upstream stable tree, to avoid these issues.
[17:33] <Daviey> As a testament, the last time we did this.. It was regression free.
[17:33] <stgraber> hallyn: change looks reasonable (looked at ubuntu:lxc)
[17:33] <SpamapS> Daviey: I'm just thinking its not so important to set all the bug statuses and tags if we're really just going to track the one master bug's status
[17:33] <Daviey> SpamapS: Note, the whole idea of doing this at upstream, rather than at pure distro level.. is something we conceived for upstream.
[17:34] <SpamapS> Daviey: you're preaching to the choir you don't have to convince me. :) I'm just thinking about the logistics
[17:34] <Daviey> SpamapS: right.. I'd be much happier to just set it Fix Committed.
[17:34] <Daviey> (which i have tooling to do already, if that is easier for you)
[17:34] <SpamapS> Daviey: it also needs verification-needed to help us know when its ok to send to -updates
[17:34] <Daviey> SpamapS: right, i can do that aswell if you prefer
[17:49] <LoT> what's the latest kernel for Precise servers?
[17:54] <Psi-Jack> LoT: 3.2.0 as it will be for the next 6 years
[18:15] <LoT> Psi-Jack:  do patches for bugs get applied to the kernel over time?
[18:16] <Psi-Jack> Security fixes and bugs, yes, there are patchlevels to the kernel Ubuntu provides.
[18:16] <LoT> also, would the Quantal kernel (after its released "stable") work on Precise (if I were to backport it)
[18:16] <Psi-Jack> i don't use backported kernels, ever.
[18:43] <Daviey> SpamapS: any traction on those SRU's?
[18:45] <SpamapS> Daviey: I just now cleared my table to look at them :-/
[18:45] <SpamapS> Daviey: I assume that this is high enough priority that its worthy of jumping in front of all the other SRU's waiting?
[18:47] <SpamapS> Daviey: so how about I jus spam bug 1041120 for all of them?
[18:47] <Daviey> SpamapS: Well, there is a significant calling for this SRU.
[18:48] <Daviey> SpamapS: spamming that one meta bug would be better IMO :)
[18:48] <SpamapS> Thats the only one that really will control the packages' progression into -updates
[18:48] <Daviey> SpamapS: i will keep close eye on that, and the others.. just incase.
[18:49] <SpamapS> Daviey: where is the testing plan for these bugs?
[18:49] <g0bl1n> hi, I installed nginx-full then removed it and deleted the /etc/nginx directory. Now doing an apt-get install nginx-full won't put the default configuration files there. Any hint ?
[18:49] <SpamapS> Daviey: err, s/bugs/updates/ ?
[18:50] <SpamapS> g0bl1n: thats intentional
[18:50] <SpamapS> g0bl1n: dpkg consideres a removed config file as something the administrator likely wanted
[18:50] <SpamapS> g0bl1n: apt-get purge nginx-full
[18:50] <g0bl1n> SpamapS: ahh, let me try ;-)
[18:50] <SpamapS> g0bl1n: that will reset dpkg's tracking of the config files (and remove ALL data and configs)
[18:51] <g0bl1n> SpamapS: I was doing a remove and autoremove. Not enough, ok
[18:51] <Daviey> SpamapS: So.. We will be doing a full burn in a lab.  I will put out a call for testing on upstream mailing list, and we've also had at least one partner offer to help test aswell
[18:51] <Daviey> So.. more coverage than the previous SRU had.
[18:51] <SpamapS> Daviey: isn't that written down somewhere?
[18:52] <SpamapS> somewhere I can link to.. :P
[18:52] <Daviey> SpamapS: yes
[18:52] <Daviey> hmm
[18:52] <Daviey> that might an isue for this moment
[18:53] <SpamapS> poor users will just have to trust good ol' Daviey's word ;)
[18:53] <SpamapS> Well as long as the results are documented I don't mind.
[18:53] <Daviey> fools!
[18:53] <Daviey> adam_g: do you know where that doc is?
[19:02] <SpamapS> ugh
[19:02] <SpamapS> the SRU queuediff script nearly crashed my browser opening all the nova bugs
[19:04] <SpamapS> Daviey: accepted all. UNLEASHE THE HOUNDS
[19:06] <g0bl1n> SpamapS:
[19:06] <g0bl1n> SpamapS:  still getting errors after the purge
[19:06] <SpamapS> g0bl1n: you may need to purge *all* of the packages that own files in /etc/nginx .. 'dpkg -S /etc/nginx'
[19:06] <LoT> SpamapS:  was 12.04.1 released?
[19:06]  * LoT seems to have missed 3 days fo announce emails, so....
[19:07] <dormito> I have a question about configure ssl certs for  a samba/ldap setup on an ubuntu server, is this the correct channel to ask it?
[19:07] <g0bl1n> SpamapS:  ah, nginx-common appeared. Purged. Now retrying
[19:08] <g0bl1n> SpamapS: well done thankyou. Worked
[19:14] <Daviey> SpamapS: thanks!
[19:20]  * SpamapS sometimes wonders if dpkg's conffile handling is really worth it
[19:21] <SpamapS> TheLordOfTime: yes, 12.04.1 was released yesterday
[19:21] <SpamapS> TheLordOfTime: and your PHP SRU is awaiting approval
[19:21] <TheLordOfTime> SpamapS:  ah, wonderful.  Thanks.
[20:52] <Daviey> SpamapS: Houston, we have a problem
[20:52] <Daviey> SpamapS: nova FTBFS, due to a debuild problem.
[20:52] <adam_g> Daviey: i think i know what it is
[20:53] <adam_g> did the others build okay?
[20:56] <Daviey> adam_g: yes
[20:57] <Daviey> adam_g: missing HCnageLog.. I am assuming you did a sdist from a tar checkout, rather than git tree?
[20:58] <adam_g> Daviey: no, in fact i didn't use sdist
[20:58] <adam_g> Daviey: but yea, that would have been autogen'd
[21:00] <Daviey> adam_g: Oh, then that is the error
[21:00] <Daviey> How come you didn't sdist?
[21:03] <adam_g> Daviey: wasn't sure how zul was cutting the previous tarballs, and whether upstream has merged any of the newer magic into sdist that makes the endproduct something much different than what we were shipping at 12.04
[21:04] <Daviey> adam_g: Ah, ok
[21:05] <adam_g> Daviey: but actually, sdist'ing it doesn't produce a ChangeLog either it seems
[21:06] <Daviey> adam_g: from tar or git co?
[21:06] <adam_g> Daviey: git
[21:06] <Daviey> oo-er
[21:08] <adam_g> Daviey: oh jeez, nvm. it does have it. my bad
[21:09] <adam_g> Daviey: whats best? adjust packaging on the current upload to exlude it, or upload a new tarball for proposed
[21:10] <Daviey> I'd think uploading a new orig.  SpamapS, what do you think?
[21:13] <Daviey> adam_g: I'd like to squeeze one more commit in aswell.. if you don't mind :)
[21:52] <adam_g> Daviey: what commit?
[21:52] <adam_g> Daviey: that'd make it easier, current versioning scheme makes it hard to bump the version
[21:54] <Portaljacker> do i need to install phpmyadmin for my website? or is it enough to have webmin for my server?
[21:55] <Portaljacker> lamp stack and going to install wordpress
[21:56] <Portaljacker> i'm stuck at the part to make the mysql database for wordpress
[21:57] <Portaljacker> and the interface of webmin is not making it obvious how to set it up correctly
[21:59] <Daviey> adam_g: I just landed two upstream
[21:59] <Daviey> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11813/
[21:59] <Daviey> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/11597/ <-- needed
[22:00] <adam_g> k
[22:06] <anotheruser> Portaljacker, don't install the 10.04 phpmyadmin anyway, it's full of holes
[22:06] <Portaljacker> ok then
[22:06] <Portaljacker> well i assumed i could set up the mysql database in the webmin mysql module
[22:07] <anotheruser> i don't know webmin... i've used phpmyadmin, and the mysql command line
[22:07] <anotheruser> if you really want phpmyadmin, at least install the last version, and change its default path (then you should be ok)
[22:07] <Portaljacker> command line can work
[22:08] <Portaljacker> is the comand line tool easy enough to setup a new database?
[22:08] <anotheruser> it's reasonable
[22:09] <anotheruser> basically, you just run a CREATE DATABASE command
[22:09] <anotheruser> if you want user rights management, it's a bit more tricky
[22:09] <anotheruser> (then you need to read about the "grant" commands
[22:11] <Portaljacker> apparently this is sufficient :P
[22:11] <Portaljacker> http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-create-a-mysql-database-and-set-privileges-to-a-user
[22:11] <anotheruser> yeah that's good enough
[22:11] <Portaljacker> this line seems odd to me
[22:11] <Portaljacker> grant usage on *.* to amarokuser@localhost identified by 'amarokpasswd';
[22:12] <anotheruser> it means amazokuser can connect, from localhost, with that password
[22:12] <Portaljacker> oh, and he can only connect to a db he's assigned to
[22:13] <anotheruser> usage is the most basic privilege
[22:14] <anotheruser> so yeah he can do nothing with it
[22:15] <anotheruser> The USAGE privilege specifier stands for “no privileges.”
[22:15] <anotheruser> here :p
[22:18] <Portaljacker> thanks