[09:36] <njin> jibel, hallo are you in ?
[09:41] <jibel> njin, hi
[09:42] <njin> hallo, I've posted a problem in ubuntu-bug, can you take a look ?
[09:48] <njin> jibel, then I open a bug against update-manager or gnome-control-center  or ?
[09:50] <jibel> njin, maybe gnome-settings, but I am not sure. File it against update-manger
[09:50] <jibel> manager
[09:54] <njin> ok thanks
[10:07] <njin> another problem, when started after upgrade it launch the passphrase request again, but with the problem that instead of the terminal it launch terminator (installed but never used)
[14:18] <njin> jibel, I need help with maas, I've got one machine running with maas, created one and run the cd, select as usual till it show `Install or Enlist Ubuntu Maas Server` I can select manually enter address or name for maas, it request the name of the server (if blank maas assign it) then it send sigkill or sigterm and system poweroff ?? is this a bug ?
[14:19] <jibel> njin, #ubuntu-server is more appropriate
[14:19] <njin> balloons, hallo:^^
[14:19] <njin> jibel, thanks
[14:23] <smartboyhw> ping balloons!
[15:18] <brendand> balloons, i had my interest piqued by your release meeting email: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2012-August/001815.html
[15:18] <balloons> brendand,  ;-)
[15:18] <smartboyhw> balloons is tired due to too many meetings;_)
[15:18] <brendand> balloons, especially the last part
[15:19] <brendand> balloons, i think it might be necessary to go into specifics ;)
[15:19] <balloons> brendand, sure.. I like to abstract things in order to think more effectively about them
[15:19] <balloons> sometimes you need to dive into the specifics though :-)
[15:20] <brendand> balloons, i know what you mean. i guess it depends on what specifics you're talking about
[15:20] <brendand> balloons, were you referring to bugs that cropped up?
[15:23] <balloons> brendand, yes I suppose in a way
[15:24] <balloons> The biggest issues we face are lack of communication (and thus harmony and understanding) amongst devs, qa, qa community, and release team ;-)
[15:24] <brendand> balloons, by that, do you mean lack of communication caused the bug, or there was lack of communication that a bug existed?
[15:24] <balloons> well, decisions made have side effects.. or bugs :-0
[15:24] <smartboyhw> balloons: I do agree
[15:26] <balloons> so i don't think the biggest issue is the bugs or side effects of decisions being made.. it's rather the idea they are made without more effective communication to others affected by them
[15:26] <balloons> sometimes decisions made have little impact, other times the impact is much larger than anticipated, etc
[15:27] <smartboyhw> balloons: Is it that only the release team can mark the build ready in the ISO QA Tracker?
[15:27] <brendand> balloons, an example would be helpful - to me at least
[15:28] <balloons> brendand, sure.. let's chat more after the meeting
[15:28] <balloons> smartboyhw, yes for all prctical purposes
[15:28] <smartboyhw> OK, so even you can't?:)
[16:57] <phillw> balloons: ping, from testers
[16:58] <balloons> pong
[16:58] <phillw> balloons: email from Greg,
[16:59] <balloons> phillw, ohh?
[16:59] <phillw> balloons: [Lubuntu-qa] qa Tracker ahead of Spins?
[16:59] <balloons> ahh
[16:59] <balloons> he's likely seeing the turnover
[16:59] <balloons> let me see
[17:00] <balloons> yea
[17:01] <balloons> these guys just are really on the ball :-)
[17:02] <phillw> balloons: we can chat about this PM when you get caught up :)