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| smartboyhw | YO bobweaver | 13:02 |
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| bobweaver | hey smartboyhw how are you today ? | 13:05 |
| smartboyhw | Good | 13:06 |
| smartboyhw | Actually, bobweaver, have you actually planned the date and time of the first Ubuntu TV meeting? | 13:07 |
| bobweaver | glad to hear that I am also good and got unity standalone running | 13:07 |
| bobweaver | 'nothing yet | 13:07 |
| smartboyhw | bobweaver: :) | 13:07 |
| bobweaver | need to talk to other that dont know what thwy are talking about | 13:07 |
| smartboyhw | Got caught away by Xubuntu 12.04.1 Alternates testing yesterday. DISTRESS call from knome:) | 13:07 |
| bobweaver | Nice | 13:07 |
| bobweaver | well | 13:08 |
| bobweaver | so all this time that I was Crying about unity and QT there has been work on unity for form-factor tv this whole time | 13:09 |
| smartboyhw | :) | 13:09 |
| bobweaver | just no one told me where to look | 13:09 |
| smartboyhw | bobweaver: I'm sorry:( | 13:09 |
| bobweaver | I had to find it my self by reverse engineering . So I will also treat people the way they treat me . | 13:09 |
| smartboyhw | bobweaver: You mean badly? | 13:10 |
| bobweaver | Seems like that is nhow thing *Roll* around here | 13:10 |
| smartboyhw | bobweaver: :_) | 13:11 |
| bobweaver | meaning no I am not going to treat anyone badly | 13:11 |
| bobweaver | but I do think that there needs to be a kick in the ass for some | 13:11 |
| smartboyhw | bobweaver: I agree:O | 13:12 |
| bobweaver | meaning they either need to go $h1-|- or get of the pot | 13:12 |
| smartboyhw | What's $h1-1- mean? | 13:12 |
| smartboyhw | You can PM me the meaning by PM:) | 13:12 |
| bobweaver | IDK | 13:12 |
| bobweaver | it was a thing like when you are furstrated and you can not do anything so you stomp on the keys ;) | 13:13 |
| smartboyhw | ;) | 13:13 |
| bobweaver | like swearing but not | 13:13 |
| smartboyhw | LOL | 13:13 |
| bobweaver | gsettings SET com.canonical.unity.form-factor TV | 13:14 |
| smartboyhw | Oh. | 13:15 |
| smartboyhw | o/ jhodapp_ | 13:15 |
| jhodapp_ | good morning | 13:15 |
| smartboyhw | I'm going to build Ubuntu TV in 12.10. How to do it? | 13:15 |
| jhodapp_ | not sure that it will completely build | 13:16 |
| jhodapp_ | haven't tried it myself on 12.10 (the demo code that is) | 13:16 |
| smartboyhw | Hmm, bobweaver teach me:) | 13:16 |
| bobweaver | where is the data dir ? do you know jhodapp | 13:16 |
| jhodapp_ | bobweaver, in what context? | 13:17 |
| bobweaver | gsettings SET com.canonical.unity.form-factor TV | 13:17 |
| bobweaver | for unity 3d | 13:17 |
| bobweaver | 6.2 | 13:17 |
| smartboyhw | Anyway, I'm building it in 11.10 now:) | 13:17 |
| jhodapp_ | smartboyhw, yes, it will work in 11.10 | 13:18 |
| jhodapp_ | bobweaver, I'm not sure | 13:18 |
| smartboyhw | OK, I'm doing it now, downloading 11.10 | 13:18 |
| bobweaver | that is a good idea smartboyhw | 13:18 |
| smartboyhw | bobweaver: Thanks | 13:20 |
| smartboyhw | It's good to use torrents. 11.10 download finishing in 5 minutes:) | 13:22 |
| smartboyhw | Er, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntutv-dev-team is restricted???:( | 13:24 |
| bobweaver | jhodapp, do you know NUX ? if so where did you or how did you learn it ? | 14:07 |
| smartboyhw | bobweaver: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntutv-dev-team is restricted??? | 14:08 |
| smartboyhw | Also, compiling the code now:) | 14:08 |
| bobweaver | Not sure am I on that team ? | 14:09 |
| bobweaver | is that what you are asking ? if so then IDTS | 14:09 |
| smartboyhw | bobweeaver: Strange, since you're not in it. | 14:09 |
| bobweaver | I am not a Ubuntu Developer smartboyhw | 14:10 |
| bobweaver | but I would like to be ASP | 14:10 |
| smartboyhw | I want to be too:) | 14:11 |
| jhodapp_ | bobweaver, I've experimented with Nux | 14:14 |
| jhodapp_ | I wouldn't say that I "know" Nux | 14:14 |
| smartboyhw | Building the code now:) | 14:14 |
| jhodapp_ | I got help from the person who originally created Nux, he's a Canonical employee | 14:14 |
| smartboyhw | jhoadapp_: Wow | 14:14 |
| bobweavertv | just from learning the unity.dev.com ? or RE | 14:15 |
| bobweavertv | jhodapp, ^^ | 14:15 |
| jhodapp_ | RE? | 14:15 |
| bobweavertv | sorry about the different host I am trying to get the new formfactor running and lets just say that | 14:16 |
| bobweavertv | Reverce Engenering | 14:16 |
| bobweavertv | er spelling | 14:16 |
| jhodapp_ | from the header files for Nux | 14:16 |
| smartboyhw | Oh | 14:16 |
| jhodapp_ | the source is quite readable | 14:16 |
| jhodapp_ | bobweavertv, btw if you want to ask some questions of Jay (the original author of Nux), he's on #ubuntu-unity on freenode (irc name jaytaoko) | 14:17 |
| bobweavertv | yeah but things like NUX:: draw how to know if you need :: or :; or syntax stuff like that | 14:17 |
| jhodapp_ | those types of question I asked Jay for help | 14:17 |
| bobweavertv | thansk I have offered a free laptop there to anyone that can really teach me NUX | 14:17 |
| jhodapp_ | bobweavertv: he's the man, though he's a busy man so you'll need some patience with him | 14:18 |
| bobweavertv | thanks for the tip jhodapp that is what I am looking for ! I figure that there has to be some sorta blog or something that I have missed | 14:18 |
| jhodapp_ | there is a blog yes... | 14:19 |
| jhodapp_ | bobweavertv: http://inalogic.com/ | 14:20 |
| bobweavertv | thanks jhodapp | 14:21 |
| jhodapp_ | np | 14:21 |
| jhodapp_ | have fun | 14:21 |
| bobweavertv | Oh I am ! | 14:21 |
| jhodapp_ | good deal | 14:21 |
| bobweavertv | I love learning new programing langs | 14:21 |
| smartboyhw | jhodapp_: Really, bobweaver and I wanna join https://launchpad.net/~ubuntutv-dev-team | 14:21 |
| smartboyhw | I will also | 14:22 |
| smartboyhw | learn the new language | 14:22 |
| bobweavertv | smartboyhw, plz dont speek for me | 14:22 |
| jhodapp_ | smartboyhw, what new language? | 14:22 |
| smartboyhw | The NUX | 14:22 |
| jhodapp_ | it's a library, not a language | 14:22 |
| smartboyhw | OK | 14:22 |
| jhodapp_ | and joining the ubuntu-tv-dev-team will not give you anything you don't already have today | 14:23 |
| smartboyhw | Hmm! | 14:23 |
| smartboyhw | Excuse me, I can't set the key mentioned in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Contributing, they say there was no such key | 14:26 |
| smartboyhw | help! | 14:28 |
| bobweaver | what do you mean there is no such key more details please | 14:28 |
| bobweaver | << is a expert on the Unity 2d | 14:28 |
| smartboyhw | I used the instructions there in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Contributing to set form-factor key | 14:29 |
| smartboyhw | The terminal said "No such key 'form-factor'" | 14:29 |
| bobweaver | ok lets see you home dir please | 14:29 |
| bobweaver | ls ~ | pastebinit | 14:29 |
| smartboyhw | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1164527 | 14:30 |
| smartboyhw | It does have ubuntu-tv in the home dir | 14:31 |
| bobweavertv | smartboyhw, you where in your home dir when you where setting the gsettings ? | 14:32 |
| smartboyhw | Oh damn it, I'm not | 14:32 |
| smartboyhw | OK | 14:32 |
| smartboyhw | Thanks bobweavertv | 14:32 |
| bobweavertv | np | 14:33 |
| bobweavertv | yeah you are setting it from where your pwd is at | 14:33 |
| bobweavertv | all that matters about that is that you are using the xml data that is there in ~/ubuntu-tv/data/ | 14:34 |
| smartboyhw | THanks | 14:37 |
| smartboyhw | Actually, how do I know if I'm running Unity-2d or unity? | 14:38 |
| bobweavertv | use ps aux | 14:40 |
| bobweavertv | ps aux | grep [u]nity | 14:41 |
| smartboyhw | Yes, I got it running!!! | 14:41 |
| jhodapp_ | smartboyhw, also, if you don't have any drop shadows, it's unity-2d | 14:42 |
| smartboyhw | OK, anyway successfully compiled the source code, got it running!!!! | 14:42 |
| bobweavertv | smartboyhw, now install qtcreator and do it again using the tools that qt creator provides | 14:42 |
| smartboyhw | Wait, how do I close it? | 14:43 |
| bobweavertv | I still do not know why there is terminal commands on that page Oo or -opengl as it is called in the code | 14:43 |
| bobweavertv | change back to the terminal and press ctrl+c smartboyhw | 14:43 |
| smartboyhw | OK, then sudo apt-get install qtcreator? | 14:44 |
| bobweavertv | that would be correct | 14:44 |
| smartboyhw | Thanks | 14:44 |
| bobweavertv | after installed open it and go to file-->open project then go to ~/ubuntu-tv/ and pick the CMakeList.txt file | 14:45 |
| smartboyhw | Wait, I haven't finished install | 14:46 |
| smartboyhw | bobweavertv: Followed the instructions, then? | 14:47 |
| bobweavertv | what do you see ? | 14:47 |
| bobweavertv | should be asking where you want to build | 14:48 |
| smartboyhw | I see a cmake wizard | 14:48 |
| bobweavertv | good | 14:48 |
| smartboyhw | It doesn't allow me to change dir | 14:48 |
| smartboyhw | So only next | 14:48 |
| bobweavertv | correct | 14:48 |
| smartboyhw | So should I add arguments? | 14:48 |
| bobweavertv | nope | 14:49 |
| smartboyhw | So I run cmake? | 14:49 |
| bobweavertv | correct | 14:49 |
| smartboyhw | Completed, then? | 14:49 |
| bobweavertv | file --> openproject ~/ubuntu-tv/shell/ shell.project | 14:50 |
| bobweavertv | this will open the qml front end | 14:50 |
| smartboyhw | Then? | 14:51 |
| bobweavertv | right click on Unity-2d in the bar on the left and make it the active project | 14:51 |
| smartboyhw | It is the active one, it is in bold | 14:52 |
| bobweavertv | then press the green play button on the left | 14:52 |
| smartboyhw | Did! | 14:52 |
| bobweavertv | sit back well it compiles | 14:52 |
| smartboyhw | Compiled. | 14:52 |
| bobweavertv | good | 14:53 |
| smartboyhw | Then? | 14:53 |
| bobweavertv | above the green play button there is something that looks like a monitor | 14:53 |
| smartboyhw | Uh huh | 14:53 |
| bobweavertv | set that to launch the unity shell \ | 14:53 |
| smartboyhw | Uh huh | 14:54 |
| bobweavertv | press the green play button again | 14:54 |
| smartboyhw | I think I got wrong in the shell part | 14:55 |
| bobweavertv | ok | 14:55 |
| smartboyhw | You mean shell.qmlproject? | 14:55 |
| bobweavertv | above the green play button | 14:55 |
| bobweavertv | see the thing tha looks like a monitor | 14:56 |
| smartboyhw | No, I mean in open project | 14:56 |
| bobweavertv | I will make video | 14:56 |
| bobweavertv | brb | 14:56 |
| smartboyhw | brb | 14:56 |
| bobweavertv | smartboyhw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tEknHznw78 | 15:30 |
| smartboyhw | bobweavertv: I am in Windows 8, don't forget it has errors:) | 15:31 |
| smartboyhw | on watching YouTube | 15:31 |
| bobweavertv | so you are on doz 8 but you are building ubuntu tv ? | 15:32 |
| smartboyhw | using VM, mate | 15:32 |
| smartboyhw | I do all testing there | 15:32 |
| bobweavertv | then you can watch on the vm? | 15:32 |
| smartboyhw | sure | 15:33 |
| bobweavertv | smartboyhw, just to show you that it is easy in the long run this was me 3 months ago | 15:39 |
| smartboyhw | OH | 15:39 |
| bobweavertv | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q1rWMnXTYw&feature=plcp | 15:39 |
| smartboyhw | bobweavertv: Stop giving YouTube links while I'm in Windows:) | 15:39 |
| bobweavertv | I use that as a reminder that I am powerful | 15:40 |
| smartboyhw | :) | 15:40 |
| bobweavertv | and three months from know I will now how too really use nux and glib and all that jazz :) | 15:42 |
| tgm4883 | yay I can finally get back to developing stuff! | 18:54 |
| tgm4883 | jhodapp_, are you available for a little extra time for our meeting today? I'd like to rewrite portions of the current status section | 19:46 |
| tgm4883 | Saviq, ping? | 19:47 |
| jhodapp_ | tgm4883, sure, Saviq has th e day off | 19:47 |
| tgm4883 | jhodapp, ah ok | 19:47 |
| tgm4883 | I was going to ping him last night and forgot | 19:47 |
| tgm4883 | jhodapp_, I'm ready whenever you are | 19:47 |
| jhodapp_ | I'll be ready in about 15 mins | 19:47 |
| tgm4883 | ok | 19:48 |
| bobweavertv | dont forget to put that unity standalone is kinda working :P | 19:48 |
| tgm4883 | bobweavertv, does this link work for you https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1416/ | 19:52 |
| tgm4883 | IDK if that is only good for me or not | 19:53 |
| bobweavertv | good stuff ^^ | 19:53 |
| tgm4883 | ok | 19:54 |
| bobweavertv | tgm4883, congrats on getting it passed | 19:56 |
| tgm4883 | bobweavertv, getting what passed? | 19:57 |
| tgm4883 | the app is still pending review | 19:58 |
| bobweavertv | oh sorry then good luck | 19:58 |
| bobweavertv | How to get frustrated >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgqusPUCl9k&feature=plcp | 21:53 |
| tgm4883 | bobweavertv, ping | 22:35 |
| bobweavertv | yo | 22:36 |
| tgm4883 | bobweavertv, did you ever send me the changes to the dbus path you had to make on the mythtv scope? | 22:38 |
| bobweavertv | no that was just for the old ubuntu-tv | 22:39 |
| tgm4883 | ok | 22:39 |
| bobweavertv | i will install to 12.10 and add to virtual unity | 22:39 |
| bobweavertv | I finaly got it going | 22:39 |
| tgm4883 | looks like it might need changed for 12.10 as well | 22:39 |
| bobweavertv | ah | 22:39 |
| bobweavertv | thanks | 22:39 |
| bobweavertv | yeah what a $%^&*( it was to get this standalone to run in a sandbox env | 22:40 |
| bobweavertv | I should have Unity 3d looking liker and acting like unity 2d tv in a weeks time ' | 22:41 |
| bobweavertv | tgm4883, if you are adding previews it is all under /unity-core/moviepreview.cpp would be one | 23:04 |
| bobweavertv | but looks like allt eh code is under shared or core | 23:05 |
| bobweavertv | nothing that fancy under dash | 23:05 |
| tgm4883 | bobweavertv, haven't looked at that yet, still getting the scope to show up under videos in 12.10 | 23:06 |
| bobweavertv | cool when you get that far give me a ping and I will help test and also help make preview | 23:06 |
| bobweavertv | if you like that is | 23:06 |
| bobweavertv | tgm4883, you know that you do not have to install Unity 3d on to machine in order to use ? | 23:11 |
| bobweavertv | http://imagebin.org/225770 | 23:11 |
| bobweavertv | but fair warning it is a pain | 23:11 |
| bobweavertv | but tgm4883 inthorey if you are using the lens "video" and your scope is just attaching then it should 100% work with previews allready at least that is how I am reading the code for this angle | 23:14 |
| tgm4883 | bobweavertv, well it's got to know what to show though | 23:15 |
| bobweavertv | if it shows in dash then it shows in pannel | 23:15 |
| bobweavertv | sorry previews | 23:15 |
| bobweavertv | meaning that it uses the icons that are already in place | 23:16 |
| bobweavertv | like if you are using backend for gathering metadata and is shows picture for unity dash then it will also show in preview | 23:17 |
| bobweavertv | backend = myth | 23:17 |
| tgm4883 | bobweavertv, the issue is I haven't touched the scope in so long, I don't recall how to get it attached to the lens | 23:17 |
| tgm4883 | which seems to be something that has changed | 23:17 |
| bobweavertv | I see that there is a fail safe like if not this try this | 23:17 |
| bobweavertv | in the daemon | 23:18 |
| * tgm4883 goes back to reading docs | 23:18 | |
| bobweavertv | the first couple of lines | 23:18 |
| bobweavertv | of the scope | 23:18 |
| bobweavertv | right after class Daemon | 23:18 |
| tgm4883 | [Scope] | 23:18 |
| tgm4883 | DBusName=net.launchpad.scope.mythtv | 23:18 |
| tgm4883 | DBusPath=/net/launchpad/scope/mythtv | 23:18 |
| bobweavertv | correct | 23:18 |
| bobweavertv | then in scope.scope | 23:18 |
| tgm4883 | that is in mythtv.scope | 23:19 |
| tgm4883 | in /usr/share/unity/lenses/video/ | 23:19 |
| bobweavertv | the uinty reads auto then | 23:19 |
| bobweavertv | because it is in the unity file hyracry | 23:19 |
| bobweavertv | maening because scope is in videos folder lens knows to scan there | 23:20 |
| tgm4883 | right | 23:20 |
| tgm4883 | which is what I expect | 23:20 |
| tgm4883 | but it's still not showing up as a source in the videos lens | 23:20 |
| bobweavertv | huh killed the lens and restarted > | 23:20 |
| bobweavertv | ?* | 23:20 |
| tgm4883 | hmm, not the lens | 23:20 |
| bobweavertv | yeah you have to kill the video lens | 23:21 |
| bobweavertv | then you can start it again from | 23:21 |
| tgm4883 | is there a way to do that without logging out and in? | 23:21 |
| tgm4883 | IIRC there didn't use to be | 23:21 |
| bobweavertv | /usr/lib/unity-lens-video | 23:21 |
| bobweavertv | yeah | 23:21 |
| bobweavertv | unity --replace | 23:21 |
| bobweavertv | but you do not need to do that | 23:22 |
| bobweavertv | you can kill lens and scope say ps aux | grep unity-lens-video then kill the pid | 23:22 |
| bobweavertv | then go to the /usr/lib/unity-lens-video then run ./unity-lens-video-daemon | 23:23 |
| bobweavertv | because you killed and did not open lens you can restart like that | 23:23 |
| bobweavertv | that way you acan also debug the video lens for when it connects to the scope | 23:23 |
| tgm4883 | bobweavertv, Progress! | 23:29 |
| tgm4883 | I had switched the dbus path, but had forgotten about the .scope file, then I switched the scope file, but didn't restart the video lens | 23:30 |
| tgm4883 | now, all is working again | 23:30 |
| bobweavertv | sweet | 23:30 |
| bobweavertv | sessions file also I take it ? | 23:30 |
| tgm4883 | nah, just the scope and .scope file | 23:31 |
| tgm4883 | then restarted, because I did the unity --replace thing and my netbook didn't like that so much | 23:32 |
| bobweavertv | yeah that can happen there are 2 thing to do when I am writing lens and scopes make sure that lens is running in terminal so I can debug the crap out of it and the other is to do just what you did with dbus | 23:34 |
| bobweavertv | but I cryed to david callie until he told me his secrets | 23:35 |
| tgm4883 | yea that dude is pretty talented | 23:36 |
| bobweavertv | maybe when you get chance you can help me out with a myth troubles that I am having will not connect to backend host says the hostname is wrong I have tried ip and also FQDN | 23:36 |
| bobweavertv | brb session restart | 23:37 |
| bobweavertv | er exit code 130 time to play the mythtv frontend pop up game :) | 23:41 |
| tgm4883 | heh | 23:42 |
| tgm4883 | bobweavertv, have you had a working remote frontend before? | 23:45 |
| tgm4883 | bobweavertv, can you pastebin /etc/mysql/conf.d/mythtv.cnf | 23:46 |
| bobweavertv | I have not before | 23:48 |
| bobweavertv | sure from backend correct I take it | 23:48 |
| tgm4883 | yea | 23:49 |
| bobweavertv | I take it that I have to bind the ip ? | 23:49 |
| bobweavertv | paste.ubuntu.com/1165363 | 23:50 |
| tgm4883 | bobweavertv, uncomment that | 23:50 |
| tgm4883 | then restart mysql and the backend | 23:50 |
| tgm4883 | uncomment line 2 | 23:51 |
| bobweavertv | should I add my ip (it is not static) or just un-comment ? | 23:51 |
| bobweavertv | thanks tgm4883 | 23:51 |
| tgm4883 | just uncomment | 23:52 |
| tgm4883 | although you shouldn't use a non-static IP address on a mythtv backend | 23:52 |
| tgm4883 | (unless you are using a reserved DHCP IP address) | 23:52 |
| bobweavertv | cool I will set something up | 23:53 |
| bobweavertv | but I restarted the services | 23:53 |
| tgm4883 | ok it should work now then | 23:55 |
| bobweavertv | yup | 23:57 |
| bobweavertv | having troubles connecting to the back end but I am going to re-install frontend | 23:57 |
| bobweavertv | thanks a ton tgm4883 | 23:57 |
| tgm4883 | bobweavertv, you probably have to go into mythtv-setup and set the IP address of the backend to the actual IP | 23:59 |
| bobweavertv | brb | 23:59 |
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