[13:02] <smartboyhw> YO bobweaver
[13:05] <bobweaver> hey smartboyhw  how are you today ?
[13:06] <smartboyhw> Good
[13:07] <smartboyhw> Actually, bobweaver, have you actually planned the date and time of the first Ubuntu TV meeting?
[13:07] <bobweaver> glad to hear that I am also good and got unity standalone running
[13:07] <bobweaver> 'nothing yet
[13:07] <smartboyhw> bobweaver: :)
[13:07] <bobweaver> need to talk to other that dont know what thwy are talking about
[13:07] <smartboyhw> Got caught away by Xubuntu 12.04.1 Alternates testing yesterday. DISTRESS call from knome:)
[13:07] <bobweaver> Nice
[13:08] <bobweaver> well
[13:09] <bobweaver> so all this time that I was Crying about unity and QT there has been work on unity for form-factor tv this whole time
[13:09] <smartboyhw> :)
[13:09] <bobweaver> just no one told me where to look
[13:09] <smartboyhw> bobweaver: I'm sorry:(
[13:09] <bobweaver> I had to find it my self by reverse engineering . So I will also treat people the way they treat me .
[13:10] <smartboyhw> bobweaver: You mean badly?
[13:10] <bobweaver> Seems like that is nhow thing *Roll* around here
[13:11] <smartboyhw> bobweaver: :_)
[13:11] <bobweaver> meaning no I am not going to treat anyone badly
[13:11] <bobweaver> but I do think that there needs to be a kick in the ass for some
[13:12] <smartboyhw> bobweaver: I agree:O
[13:12] <bobweaver> meaning they either need to go $h1-|- or get of the pot
[13:12] <smartboyhw> What's $h1-1- mean?
[13:12] <smartboyhw> You can PM me the meaning by PM:)
[13:12] <bobweaver> IDK
[13:13] <bobweaver> it was a thing like when you are furstrated and you can not do anything so you stomp on the keys ;)
[13:13] <smartboyhw> ;)
[13:13] <bobweaver> like swearing but not
[13:13] <smartboyhw> LOL
[13:14] <bobweaver> gsettings SET com.canonical.unity.form-factor TV
[13:15] <smartboyhw> Oh.
[13:15] <smartboyhw> o/ jhodapp_
[13:15] <jhodapp_> good morning
[13:15] <smartboyhw> I'm going to build Ubuntu TV in 12.10. How to do it?
[13:16] <jhodapp_> not sure that it will completely build
[13:16] <jhodapp_> haven't tried it myself on 12.10 (the demo code that is)
[13:16] <smartboyhw> Hmm, bobweaver teach me:)
[13:16] <bobweaver> where is the data dir ? do you know jhodapp
[13:17] <jhodapp_> bobweaver, in what context?
[13:17] <bobweaver> gsettings SET com.canonical.unity.form-factor TV
[13:17] <bobweaver> for unity 3d
[13:17] <bobweaver> 6.2
[13:17] <smartboyhw> Anyway, I'm building it in 11.10 now:)
[13:18] <jhodapp_> smartboyhw, yes, it will work in 11.10
[13:18] <jhodapp_> bobweaver, I'm not sure
[13:18] <smartboyhw> OK, I'm doing it now, downloading 11.10
[13:18] <bobweaver> that is a good idea smartboyhw
[13:20] <smartboyhw> bobweaver: Thanks
[13:22] <smartboyhw> It's good to use torrents. 11.10 download finishing in 5 minutes:)
[13:24] <smartboyhw> Er, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntutv-dev-team is restricted???:(
[14:07] <bobweaver> jhodapp,  do you know NUX ? if so where did you or how did you learn it ?
[14:08] <smartboyhw> bobweaver: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntutv-dev-team is restricted???
[14:08] <smartboyhw> Also, compiling the code now:)
[14:09] <bobweaver> Not sure am I on that team ?
[14:09] <bobweaver> is that what you are asking ? if so then IDTS
[14:09] <smartboyhw> bobweeaver: Strange, since you're not in it.
[14:10] <bobweaver> I am not a Ubuntu Developer smartboyhw
[14:10] <bobweaver> but I would like to be ASP
[14:11] <smartboyhw> I want to be too:)
[14:14] <jhodapp_> bobweaver, I've experimented with Nux
[14:14] <jhodapp_> I wouldn't say that I "know" Nux
[14:14] <smartboyhw> Building the code now:)
[14:14] <jhodapp_> I got help from the person who originally created Nux, he's a Canonical employee
[14:14] <smartboyhw> jhoadapp_: Wow
[14:15] <bobweavertv> just from learning the unity.dev.com ? or RE
[14:15] <bobweavertv> jhodapp,  ^^
[14:15] <jhodapp_> RE?
[14:16] <bobweavertv> sorry about the different host I am trying to get the new formfactor running and lets just say that
[14:16] <bobweavertv> Reverce Engenering
[14:16] <bobweavertv> er spelling
[14:16] <jhodapp_> from the header files for Nux
[14:16] <smartboyhw> Oh
[14:16] <jhodapp_> the source is quite readable
[14:17] <jhodapp_> bobweavertv, btw if you want to ask some questions of Jay (the original author of Nux), he's on #ubuntu-unity on freenode (irc name jaytaoko)
[14:17] <bobweavertv> yeah but things like NUX:: draw how to know if you need :: or :; or syntax stuff like that
[14:17] <jhodapp_> those types of question I asked Jay for help
[14:17] <bobweavertv> thansk I have offered a free laptop there to anyone that can really teach me NUX
[14:18] <jhodapp_> bobweavertv: he's the man, though he's a busy man so you'll need some patience with him
[14:18] <bobweavertv> thanks for the tip jhodapp  that is what I am looking for ! I figure that there has to be some sorta blog or something that I have missed
[14:19] <jhodapp_> there is a blog yes...
[14:20] <jhodapp_> bobweavertv: http://inalogic.com/
[14:21] <bobweavertv> thanks jhodapp
[14:21] <jhodapp_> np
[14:21] <jhodapp_> have fun
[14:21] <bobweavertv> Oh I am !
[14:21] <jhodapp_> good deal
[14:21] <bobweavertv> I love learning new programing langs
[14:21] <smartboyhw> jhodapp_: Really, bobweaver and I wanna join https://launchpad.net/~ubuntutv-dev-team
[14:22] <smartboyhw> I will also
[14:22] <smartboyhw> learn the new language
[14:22] <bobweavertv> smartboyhw,  plz dont speek for me
[14:22] <jhodapp_> smartboyhw, what new language?
[14:22] <smartboyhw> The NUX
[14:22] <jhodapp_> it's a library, not a language
[14:22] <smartboyhw> OK
[14:23] <jhodapp_> and joining the ubuntu-tv-dev-team will not give you anything you don't already have today
[14:23] <smartboyhw> Hmm!
[14:26] <smartboyhw> Excuse me, I can't set the key mentioned in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Contributing, they say there was no such key
[14:28] <smartboyhw> help!
[14:28] <bobweaver> what do you mean there is no such key more details please
[14:28] <bobweaver> << is a expert on the Unity 2d
[14:29] <smartboyhw> I used the instructions there in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Contributing to set form-factor key
[14:29] <smartboyhw> The terminal said "No such key 'form-factor'"
[14:29] <bobweaver> ok lets see you home dir please
[14:29] <bobweaver> ls ~ | pastebinit
[14:30] <smartboyhw> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1164527
[14:31] <smartboyhw> It does have ubuntu-tv in the home dir
[14:32] <bobweavertv> smartboyhw,  you where in your home dir when you where setting the gsettings ?
[14:32] <smartboyhw> Oh damn it, I'm not
[14:32] <smartboyhw> OK
[14:32] <smartboyhw> Thanks bobweavertv
[14:33] <bobweavertv> np
[14:33] <bobweavertv> yeah you are setting it from where your pwd is at
[14:34] <bobweavertv> all that matters about that is that you are using the xml data that is there in ~/ubuntu-tv/data/
[14:37] <smartboyhw> THanks
[14:38] <smartboyhw> Actually, how do I know if I'm running Unity-2d or unity?
[14:40] <bobweavertv> use ps aux
[14:41] <bobweavertv> ps aux | grep [u]nity
[14:41] <smartboyhw> Yes, I got it running!!!
[14:42] <jhodapp_> smartboyhw, also, if you don't have any drop shadows, it's unity-2d
[14:42] <smartboyhw> OK, anyway successfully compiled the source code, got it running!!!!
[14:42] <bobweavertv> smartboyhw,  now install qtcreator and do it again using the tools that qt creator provides
[14:43] <smartboyhw> Wait, how do I close it?
[14:43] <bobweavertv> I still do not know why there is terminal commands on that page Oo or -opengl as it is called in the code
[14:43] <bobweavertv> change back to the terminal and press ctrl+c smartboyhw
[14:44] <smartboyhw> OK, then sudo apt-get install qtcreator?
[14:44] <bobweavertv> that would be correct
[14:44] <smartboyhw> Thanks
[14:45] <bobweavertv> after installed open it and go to file-->open project    then go to ~/ubuntu-tv/  and pick the CMakeList.txt file
[14:46] <smartboyhw> Wait, I haven't finished install
[14:47] <smartboyhw> bobweavertv: Followed the instructions, then?
[14:47] <bobweavertv> what do you see ?
[14:48] <bobweavertv> should be asking where you want to build
[14:48] <smartboyhw> I see a cmake wizard
[14:48] <bobweavertv> good
[14:48] <smartboyhw> It doesn't allow me to change dir
[14:48] <smartboyhw> So only next
[14:48] <bobweavertv> correct
[14:48] <smartboyhw> So should I add arguments?
[14:49] <bobweavertv> nope
[14:49] <smartboyhw> So I run cmake?
[14:49] <bobweavertv> correct
[14:49] <smartboyhw> Completed, then?
[14:50] <bobweavertv> file --> openproject   ~/ubuntu-tv/shell/   shell.project
[14:50] <bobweavertv> this will open  the qml front end
[14:51] <smartboyhw> Then?
[14:51] <bobweavertv> right click on Unity-2d in the bar on the left and make it the active project
[14:52] <smartboyhw> It is the active one, it is in bold
[14:52] <bobweavertv> then press the green play button on the left
[14:52] <smartboyhw> Did!
[14:52] <bobweavertv> sit back well it compiles
[14:52] <smartboyhw> Compiled.
[14:53] <bobweavertv> good
[14:53] <smartboyhw> Then?
[14:53] <bobweavertv> above the green play button there is something that looks like a monitor
[14:53] <smartboyhw> Uh huh
[14:53] <bobweavertv> set that to launch the unity shell \
[14:54] <smartboyhw> Uh huh
[14:54] <bobweavertv> press the green play button again
[14:55] <smartboyhw> I think I got wrong in the shell part
[14:55] <bobweavertv> ok
[14:55] <smartboyhw> You mean shell.qmlproject?
[14:55] <bobweavertv> above the green play button
[14:56] <bobweavertv> see the thing tha looks like a monitor
[14:56] <smartboyhw> No, I mean in open project
[14:56] <bobweavertv> I will make video
[14:56] <bobweavertv> brb
[14:56] <smartboyhw> brb
[15:30] <bobweavertv>  smartboyhw  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tEknHznw78
[15:31] <smartboyhw> bobweavertv: I am in Windows 8, don't forget it has errors:)
[15:31] <smartboyhw> on watching YouTube
[15:32] <bobweavertv> so you are on doz 8 but you are building ubuntu tv ?
[15:32] <smartboyhw> using VM, mate
[15:32] <smartboyhw> I do all testing there
[15:32] <bobweavertv> then you can watch on the vm?
[15:33] <smartboyhw> sure
[15:39] <bobweavertv> smartboyhw,  just to show you that it is easy in the long run this was me 3 months ago
[15:39] <smartboyhw> OH
[15:39] <bobweavertv> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q1rWMnXTYw&feature=plcp
[15:39] <smartboyhw> bobweavertv: Stop giving YouTube links while I'm in Windows:)
[15:40] <bobweavertv> I use that as a reminder that I am powerful
[15:40] <smartboyhw> :)
[15:42] <bobweavertv> and three months from know I will now how too really use nux and glib and all that jazz :)
[18:54] <tgm4883> yay I can finally get back to developing stuff!
[19:46] <tgm4883> jhodapp_, are you available for a little extra time for our meeting today? I'd like to rewrite portions of the current status section
[19:47] <tgm4883> Saviq, ping?
[19:47] <jhodapp_> tgm4883, sure, Saviq has th e day off
[19:47] <tgm4883> jhodapp, ah ok
[19:47] <tgm4883> I was going to ping him last night and forgot
[19:47] <tgm4883> jhodapp_, I'm ready whenever you are
[19:47] <jhodapp_> I'll be ready in about 15 mins
[19:48] <tgm4883> ok
[19:48] <bobweavertv> dont forget to put that unity standalone is kinda working :P
[19:52] <tgm4883> bobweavertv, does this link work for you https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1416/
[19:53] <tgm4883> IDK if that is only good for me or not
[19:53] <bobweavertv> good stuff ^^
[19:54] <tgm4883> ok
[19:56] <bobweavertv> tgm4883,  congrats on getting it passed
[19:57] <tgm4883> bobweavertv, getting what passed?
[19:58] <tgm4883> the app is still pending review
[19:58] <bobweavertv> oh sorry then good luck
[21:53] <bobweavertv> How to get frustrated >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgqusPUCl9k&feature=plcp
[22:35] <tgm4883> bobweavertv, ping
[22:36] <bobweavertv> yo
[22:38] <tgm4883> bobweavertv, did you ever send me the changes to the dbus path you had to make on the mythtv scope?
[22:39] <bobweavertv> no that was just for the old ubuntu-tv
[22:39] <tgm4883> ok
[22:39] <bobweavertv> i will install to 12.10 and add to virtual unity
[22:39] <bobweavertv> I finaly got it going
[22:39] <tgm4883> looks like it might need changed for 12.10 as well
[22:39] <bobweavertv> ah
[22:39] <bobweavertv> thanks
[22:40] <bobweavertv> yeah what a $%^&*( it was to get this standalone to run in a sandbox env
[22:41] <bobweavertv> I should have Unity 3d looking liker and acting like unity 2d tv in a weeks time '
[23:04] <bobweavertv> tgm4883,  if you are adding previews it is all under /unity-core/moviepreview.cpp would be one
[23:05] <bobweavertv> but looks like allt eh code is under shared or core
[23:05] <bobweavertv> nothing that fancy under dash
[23:06] <tgm4883> bobweavertv, haven't looked at that yet, still getting the scope to show up under videos in 12.10
[23:06] <bobweavertv> cool when you get that far give me a ping and I will help test and also help make preview
[23:06] <bobweavertv> if you like that is
[23:11] <bobweavertv> tgm4883, you know that you do not have to install Unity 3d on to machine in order to use ?
[23:11] <bobweavertv> http://imagebin.org/225770
[23:11] <bobweavertv> but fair warning it is a pain
[23:14] <bobweavertv> but tgm4883  inthorey if you are using the lens "video" and your scope is just attaching then it should 100% work with previews allready at least that is how I am reading the code for this angle
[23:15] <tgm4883> bobweavertv, well it's got to know what to show though
[23:15] <bobweavertv> if it shows in dash then it shows in pannel
[23:15] <bobweavertv> sorry previews
[23:16] <bobweavertv> meaning that it uses the icons that are already in place
[23:17] <bobweavertv> like if you are using backend for gathering metadata and is shows picture for unity dash then it will also show in preview
[23:17] <bobweavertv> backend = myth
[23:17] <tgm4883> bobweavertv, the issue is I haven't touched the scope in so long, I don't recall how to get it attached to the lens
[23:17] <tgm4883> which seems to be something that has changed
[23:17] <bobweavertv> I see that there is a fail safe like if not this try this
[23:18] <bobweavertv> in the daemon
[23:18]  * tgm4883 goes back to reading docs
[23:18] <bobweavertv> the first couple of lines
[23:18] <bobweavertv> of the scope
[23:18] <bobweavertv> right after class Daemon
[23:18] <tgm4883> [Scope]
[23:18] <tgm4883> DBusName=net.launchpad.scope.mythtv
[23:18] <tgm4883> DBusPath=/net/launchpad/scope/mythtv
[23:18] <bobweavertv> correct
[23:18] <bobweavertv> then in scope.scope
[23:19] <tgm4883> that is in mythtv.scope
[23:19] <tgm4883> in /usr/share/unity/lenses/video/
[23:19] <bobweavertv> the uinty reads auto then
[23:19] <bobweavertv> because it is in the unity file hyracry
[23:20] <bobweavertv> maening because scope is in videos folder lens knows to scan there
[23:20] <tgm4883> right
[23:20] <tgm4883> which is what I expect
[23:20] <tgm4883> but it's still not showing up as a source in the videos lens
[23:20] <bobweavertv> huh killed the lens and restarted >
[23:20] <bobweavertv> ?*
[23:20] <tgm4883> hmm, not the lens
[23:21] <bobweavertv> yeah you have to kill the video lens
[23:21] <bobweavertv> then you can start it again from
[23:21] <tgm4883> is there a way to do that without logging out and in?
[23:21] <tgm4883> IIRC there didn't use to be
[23:21] <bobweavertv>  /usr/lib/unity-lens-video
[23:21] <bobweavertv> yeah
[23:21] <bobweavertv> unity --replace
[23:22] <bobweavertv> but you do not need to do that
[23:22] <bobweavertv> you can kill lens and scope say ps aux | grep unity-lens-video    then kill the pid
[23:23] <bobweavertv> then go to the /usr/lib/unity-lens-video then run ./unity-lens-video-daemon
[23:23] <bobweavertv> because you killed and did not open lens you can restart like that
[23:23] <bobweavertv> that way you acan also debug the video lens for when it connects to the scope
[23:29] <tgm4883> bobweavertv, Progress!
[23:30] <tgm4883> I had switched the dbus path, but had forgotten about the .scope file, then I switched the scope file, but didn't restart the video lens
[23:30] <tgm4883> now, all is working again
[23:30] <bobweavertv> sweet
[23:30] <bobweavertv> sessions file also I take it ?
[23:31] <tgm4883> nah, just the scope and .scope file
[23:32] <tgm4883> then restarted, because I did the unity --replace thing and my netbook didn't like that so much
[23:34] <bobweavertv> yeah that can happen there are 2 thing to do when I am writing lens and scopes make sure that lens is running in terminal so I can debug the crap out of it and the other is to do just what you did with dbus
[23:35] <bobweavertv> but I cryed to david callie until he told me his secrets
[23:36] <tgm4883> yea that dude is pretty talented
[23:36] <bobweavertv> maybe when you get chance you can help me out with a myth troubles that I am having will not connect to backend host says the hostname is wrong I have tried ip and also FQDN
[23:37] <bobweavertv> brb session restart
[23:41] <bobweavertv> er exit code 130 time to play the mythtv frontend pop up game :)
[23:42] <tgm4883> heh
[23:45] <tgm4883> bobweavertv, have you had a working remote frontend before?
[23:46] <tgm4883> bobweavertv, can you pastebin /etc/mysql/conf.d/mythtv.cnf
[23:48] <bobweavertv> I have not before
[23:48] <bobweavertv> sure from backend correct I take it
[23:49] <tgm4883> yea
[23:49] <bobweavertv> I take it that I have to bind the ip ?
[23:50] <bobweavertv> paste.ubuntu.com/1165363
[23:50] <tgm4883> bobweavertv, uncomment that
[23:50] <tgm4883> then restart mysql and the backend
[23:51] <tgm4883> uncomment line 2
[23:51] <bobweavertv> should I add my ip (it is not static) or just un-comment ?
[23:51] <bobweavertv> thanks tgm4883
[23:52] <tgm4883> just uncomment
[23:52] <tgm4883> although you shouldn't use a non-static IP address on a mythtv backend
[23:52] <tgm4883> (unless you are using a reserved DHCP IP address)
[23:53] <bobweavertv> cool I will set something up
[23:53] <bobweavertv> but I restarted the services
[23:55] <tgm4883> ok it should work now then
[23:57] <bobweavertv> yup
[23:57] <bobweavertv> having troubles connecting to the back end but I am going to re-install frontend
[23:57] <bobweavertv> thanks a ton tgm4883
[23:59] <tgm4883> bobweavertv, you probably have to go into mythtv-setup and set the IP address of the backend to the actual IP
[23:59] <bobweavertv> brb