=== chihchun-afk is now known as chihchun === Guest83481 is now known as jussi === chihchun is now known as chihchun-afk === LjL^ is now known as LjL [13:02] YO bobweaver [13:05] hey smartboyhw how are you today ? [13:06] Good [13:07] Actually, bobweaver, have you actually planned the date and time of the first Ubuntu TV meeting? [13:07] glad to hear that I am also good and got unity standalone running [13:07] 'nothing yet [13:07] bobweaver: :) [13:07] need to talk to other that dont know what thwy are talking about [13:07] Got caught away by Xubuntu 12.04.1 Alternates testing yesterday. DISTRESS call from knome:) [13:07] Nice [13:08] well [13:09] so all this time that I was Crying about unity and QT there has been work on unity for form-factor tv this whole time [13:09] :) [13:09] just no one told me where to look [13:09] bobweaver: I'm sorry:( [13:09] I had to find it my self by reverse engineering . So I will also treat people the way they treat me . [13:10] bobweaver: You mean badly? [13:10] Seems like that is nhow thing *Roll* around here [13:11] bobweaver: :_) [13:11] meaning no I am not going to treat anyone badly [13:11] but I do think that there needs to be a kick in the ass for some [13:12] bobweaver: I agree:O [13:12] meaning they either need to go $h1-|- or get of the pot [13:12] What's $h1-1- mean? [13:12] You can PM me the meaning by PM:) [13:12] IDK [13:13] it was a thing like when you are furstrated and you can not do anything so you stomp on the keys ;) [13:13] ;) [13:13] like swearing but not [13:13] LOL [13:14] gsettings SET com.canonical.unity.form-factor TV [13:15] Oh. [13:15] o/ jhodapp_ [13:15] good morning [13:15] I'm going to build Ubuntu TV in 12.10. How to do it? [13:16] not sure that it will completely build [13:16] haven't tried it myself on 12.10 (the demo code that is) [13:16] Hmm, bobweaver teach me:) [13:16] where is the data dir ? do you know jhodapp [13:17] bobweaver, in what context? [13:17] gsettings SET com.canonical.unity.form-factor TV [13:17] for unity 3d [13:17] 6.2 [13:17] Anyway, I'm building it in 11.10 now:) [13:18] smartboyhw, yes, it will work in 11.10 [13:18] bobweaver, I'm not sure [13:18] OK, I'm doing it now, downloading 11.10 [13:18] that is a good idea smartboyhw [13:20] bobweaver: Thanks [13:22] It's good to use torrents. 11.10 download finishing in 5 minutes:) [13:24] Er, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntutv-dev-team is restricted???:( [14:07] jhodapp, do you know NUX ? if so where did you or how did you learn it ? [14:08] bobweaver: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntutv-dev-team is restricted??? [14:08] Also, compiling the code now:) [14:09] Not sure am I on that team ? [14:09] is that what you are asking ? if so then IDTS [14:09] bobweeaver: Strange, since you're not in it. [14:10] I am not a Ubuntu Developer smartboyhw [14:10] but I would like to be ASP [14:11] I want to be too:) [14:14] bobweaver, I've experimented with Nux [14:14] I wouldn't say that I "know" Nux [14:14] Building the code now:) [14:14] I got help from the person who originally created Nux, he's a Canonical employee [14:14] jhoadapp_: Wow [14:15] just from learning the unity.dev.com ? or RE [14:15] jhodapp, ^^ [14:15] RE? [14:16] sorry about the different host I am trying to get the new formfactor running and lets just say that [14:16] Reverce Engenering [14:16] er spelling [14:16] from the header files for Nux [14:16] Oh [14:16] the source is quite readable [14:17] bobweavertv, btw if you want to ask some questions of Jay (the original author of Nux), he's on #ubuntu-unity on freenode (irc name jaytaoko) [14:17] yeah but things like NUX:: draw how to know if you need :: or :; or syntax stuff like that [14:17] those types of question I asked Jay for help [14:17] thansk I have offered a free laptop there to anyone that can really teach me NUX [14:18] bobweavertv: he's the man, though he's a busy man so you'll need some patience with him [14:18] thanks for the tip jhodapp that is what I am looking for ! I figure that there has to be some sorta blog or something that I have missed [14:19] there is a blog yes... [14:20] bobweavertv: http://inalogic.com/ [14:21] thanks jhodapp [14:21] np [14:21] have fun [14:21] Oh I am ! [14:21] good deal [14:21] I love learning new programing langs [14:21] jhodapp_: Really, bobweaver and I wanna join https://launchpad.net/~ubuntutv-dev-team [14:22] I will also [14:22] learn the new language [14:22] smartboyhw, plz dont speek for me [14:22] smartboyhw, what new language? [14:22] The NUX [14:22] it's a library, not a language [14:22] OK [14:23] and joining the ubuntu-tv-dev-team will not give you anything you don't already have today [14:23] Hmm! [14:26] Excuse me, I can't set the key mentioned in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Contributing, they say there was no such key [14:28] help! [14:28] what do you mean there is no such key more details please [14:28] << is a expert on the Unity 2d [14:29] I used the instructions there in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTV/Contributing to set form-factor key [14:29] The terminal said "No such key 'form-factor'" [14:29] ok lets see you home dir please [14:29] ls ~ | pastebinit [14:30] http://paste.ubuntu.com/1164527 [14:31] It does have ubuntu-tv in the home dir [14:32] smartboyhw, you where in your home dir when you where setting the gsettings ? [14:32] Oh damn it, I'm not [14:32] OK [14:32] Thanks bobweavertv [14:33] np [14:33] yeah you are setting it from where your pwd is at [14:34] all that matters about that is that you are using the xml data that is there in ~/ubuntu-tv/data/ [14:37] THanks [14:38] Actually, how do I know if I'm running Unity-2d or unity? [14:40] use ps aux [14:41] ps aux | grep [u]nity [14:41] Yes, I got it running!!! [14:42] smartboyhw, also, if you don't have any drop shadows, it's unity-2d [14:42] OK, anyway successfully compiled the source code, got it running!!!! [14:42] smartboyhw, now install qtcreator and do it again using the tools that qt creator provides [14:43] Wait, how do I close it? [14:43] I still do not know why there is terminal commands on that page Oo or -opengl as it is called in the code [14:43] change back to the terminal and press ctrl+c smartboyhw [14:44] OK, then sudo apt-get install qtcreator? [14:44] that would be correct [14:44] Thanks [14:45] after installed open it and go to file-->open project then go to ~/ubuntu-tv/ and pick the CMakeList.txt file [14:46] Wait, I haven't finished install [14:47] bobweavertv: Followed the instructions, then? [14:47] what do you see ? [14:48] should be asking where you want to build [14:48] I see a cmake wizard [14:48] good [14:48] It doesn't allow me to change dir [14:48] So only next [14:48] correct [14:48] So should I add arguments? [14:49] nope [14:49] So I run cmake? [14:49] correct [14:49] Completed, then? [14:50] file --> openproject ~/ubuntu-tv/shell/ shell.project [14:50] this will open the qml front end [14:51] Then? [14:51] right click on Unity-2d in the bar on the left and make it the active project [14:52] It is the active one, it is in bold [14:52] then press the green play button on the left [14:52] Did! [14:52] sit back well it compiles [14:52] Compiled. [14:53] good [14:53] Then? [14:53] above the green play button there is something that looks like a monitor [14:53] Uh huh [14:53] set that to launch the unity shell \ [14:54] Uh huh [14:54] press the green play button again [14:55] I think I got wrong in the shell part [14:55] ok [14:55] You mean shell.qmlproject? [14:55] above the green play button [14:56] see the thing tha looks like a monitor [14:56] No, I mean in open project [14:56] I will make video [14:56] brb [14:56] brb [15:30] smartboyhw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tEknHznw78 [15:31] bobweavertv: I am in Windows 8, don't forget it has errors:) [15:31] on watching YouTube [15:32] so you are on doz 8 but you are building ubuntu tv ? [15:32] using VM, mate [15:32] I do all testing there [15:32] then you can watch on the vm? [15:33] sure [15:39] smartboyhw, just to show you that it is easy in the long run this was me 3 months ago [15:39] OH [15:39] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_q1rWMnXTYw&feature=plcp [15:39] bobweavertv: Stop giving YouTube links while I'm in Windows:) [15:40] I use that as a reminder that I am powerful [15:40] :) [15:42] and three months from know I will now how too really use nux and glib and all that jazz :) [18:54] yay I can finally get back to developing stuff! [19:46] jhodapp_, are you available for a little extra time for our meeting today? I'd like to rewrite portions of the current status section [19:47] Saviq, ping? [19:47] tgm4883, sure, Saviq has th e day off [19:47] jhodapp, ah ok [19:47] I was going to ping him last night and forgot [19:47] jhodapp_, I'm ready whenever you are [19:47] I'll be ready in about 15 mins [19:48] ok [19:48] dont forget to put that unity standalone is kinda working :P [19:52] bobweavertv, does this link work for you https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/apps/1416/ [19:53] IDK if that is only good for me or not [19:53] good stuff ^^ [19:54] ok [19:56] tgm4883, congrats on getting it passed [19:57] bobweavertv, getting what passed? [19:58] the app is still pending review [19:58] oh sorry then good luck [21:53] How to get frustrated >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgqusPUCl9k&feature=plcp [22:35] bobweavertv, ping [22:36] yo [22:38] bobweavertv, did you ever send me the changes to the dbus path you had to make on the mythtv scope? [22:39] no that was just for the old ubuntu-tv [22:39] ok [22:39] i will install to 12.10 and add to virtual unity [22:39] I finaly got it going [22:39] looks like it might need changed for 12.10 as well [22:39] ah [22:39] thanks [22:40] yeah what a $%^&*( it was to get this standalone to run in a sandbox env [22:41] I should have Unity 3d looking liker and acting like unity 2d tv in a weeks time ' [23:04] tgm4883, if you are adding previews it is all under /unity-core/moviepreview.cpp would be one [23:05] but looks like allt eh code is under shared or core [23:05] nothing that fancy under dash [23:06] bobweavertv, haven't looked at that yet, still getting the scope to show up under videos in 12.10 [23:06] cool when you get that far give me a ping and I will help test and also help make preview [23:06] if you like that is [23:11] tgm4883, you know that you do not have to install Unity 3d on to machine in order to use ? [23:11] http://imagebin.org/225770 [23:11] but fair warning it is a pain [23:14] but tgm4883 inthorey if you are using the lens "video" and your scope is just attaching then it should 100% work with previews allready at least that is how I am reading the code for this angle [23:15] bobweavertv, well it's got to know what to show though [23:15] if it shows in dash then it shows in pannel [23:15] sorry previews [23:16] meaning that it uses the icons that are already in place [23:17] like if you are using backend for gathering metadata and is shows picture for unity dash then it will also show in preview [23:17] backend = myth [23:17] bobweavertv, the issue is I haven't touched the scope in so long, I don't recall how to get it attached to the lens [23:17] which seems to be something that has changed [23:17] I see that there is a fail safe like if not this try this [23:18] in the daemon [23:18] * tgm4883 goes back to reading docs [23:18] the first couple of lines [23:18] of the scope [23:18] right after class Daemon [23:18] [Scope] [23:18] DBusName=net.launchpad.scope.mythtv [23:18] DBusPath=/net/launchpad/scope/mythtv [23:18] correct [23:18] then in scope.scope [23:19] that is in mythtv.scope [23:19] in /usr/share/unity/lenses/video/ [23:19] the uinty reads auto then [23:19] because it is in the unity file hyracry [23:20] maening because scope is in videos folder lens knows to scan there [23:20] right [23:20] which is what I expect [23:20] but it's still not showing up as a source in the videos lens [23:20] huh killed the lens and restarted > [23:20] ?* [23:20] hmm, not the lens [23:21] yeah you have to kill the video lens [23:21] then you can start it again from [23:21] is there a way to do that without logging out and in? [23:21] IIRC there didn't use to be [23:21] /usr/lib/unity-lens-video [23:21] yeah [23:21] unity --replace [23:22] but you do not need to do that [23:22] you can kill lens and scope say ps aux | grep unity-lens-video then kill the pid [23:23] then go to the /usr/lib/unity-lens-video then run ./unity-lens-video-daemon [23:23] because you killed and did not open lens you can restart like that [23:23] that way you acan also debug the video lens for when it connects to the scope [23:29] bobweavertv, Progress! [23:30] I had switched the dbus path, but had forgotten about the .scope file, then I switched the scope file, but didn't restart the video lens [23:30] now, all is working again [23:30] sweet [23:30] sessions file also I take it ? [23:31] nah, just the scope and .scope file [23:32] then restarted, because I did the unity --replace thing and my netbook didn't like that so much [23:34] yeah that can happen there are 2 thing to do when I am writing lens and scopes make sure that lens is running in terminal so I can debug the crap out of it and the other is to do just what you did with dbus [23:35] but I cryed to david callie until he told me his secrets [23:36] yea that dude is pretty talented [23:36] maybe when you get chance you can help me out with a myth troubles that I am having will not connect to backend host says the hostname is wrong I have tried ip and also FQDN [23:37] brb session restart [23:41] er exit code 130 time to play the mythtv frontend pop up game :) [23:42] heh [23:45] bobweavertv, have you had a working remote frontend before? [23:46] bobweavertv, can you pastebin /etc/mysql/conf.d/mythtv.cnf [23:48] I have not before [23:48] sure from backend correct I take it [23:49] yea [23:49] I take it that I have to bind the ip ? [23:50] paste.ubuntu.com/1165363 [23:50] bobweavertv, uncomment that [23:50] then restart mysql and the backend [23:51] uncomment line 2 [23:51] should I add my ip (it is not static) or just un-comment ? [23:51] thanks tgm4883 [23:52] just uncomment [23:52] although you shouldn't use a non-static IP address on a mythtv backend [23:52] (unless you are using a reserved DHCP IP address) [23:53] cool I will set something up [23:53] but I restarted the services [23:55] ok it should work now then [23:57] yup [23:57] having troubles connecting to the back end but I am going to re-install frontend [23:57] thanks a ton tgm4883 [23:59] bobweavertv, you probably have to go into mythtv-setup and set the IP address of the backend to the actual IP [23:59] brb