[02:09] <rick_h_> snap-l_: https://github.com/jdunck/python-unicodecsv
[02:13] <rick_h_> then there's scitesy
[02:14] <scitesy> yes I'm here.
[02:15] <rick_h_> causing trouble
[02:15] <rick_h_> how goes?
[02:15] <scitesy> it goes well.  and you?
[02:16] <rick_h_> if this script runs through I'll say good :)
[02:33] <snap-l_> rick_h_: nice
[12:48] <snap-l_> Good morning
[12:48] <rick_h_> morning
[13:24] <brousch> yes
[13:24] <brousch> BarCampGR tonight! Who's coming?
[13:26] <rick_h_> party...but not coming
[13:27] <nullspace> cousin's wedding tomorrow so I'm not
[13:27] <brousch> 170 registrations
[13:28] <nullspace> when are we going to get a local barcamp?
[13:28] <rick_h_> last day to submit talks to 1devday
[13:30] <brousch> nullspace: When you get off your butt and organize it ;)
[15:30] <shakes808> Good day fellas
[15:31] <rick_h_> party
[15:41] <jrwren> party party.
[15:41] <jrwren> 5.25hrs until MLG Raleigh
[15:43] <snap-l_> Is that the french version of Magic The Gathering? (Majique le Gatheringeee)
[15:43] <shakes808> snap-l +1
[15:43] <shakes808> lol
[15:44] <snap-l_> Major League Gaming? Are you shitting me?
[15:45] <snap-l_> http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/home
[15:45] <snap-l_> Pardon me while I contain my excitement
[15:45] <snap-l_> Nope, that's gas.
[16:04] <rick_h_> woot! http://us4.campaign-archive1.com/?u=9735795484d2e4c204da82a29&id=5f0305a119
[16:04] <snap-l_> bookie (github.com)
[16:04] <snap-l_> Bookie is a Python based open source version of the original bookmarking site delicious. Try it out.
[16:04] <snap-l_> Very cool!
[16:06] <jrwren> i'm a starcraft2 junkie
[16:06] <jrwren> i can't wait to watch!
[16:06] <jrwren> 5 hrs!!!
[16:07] <snap-l_> I'd rather spork my nuts
[16:13] <rick_h_> whoa, real time traffic is picking up
[16:16] <greg-g> jrwren: did you see the Planetary Annihilation kickstarter?
[16:17] <jrwren> oh, that game, I think i did
[16:19] <greg-g> jrwren: did you play Total Annihilation?
[16:19] <greg-g> that and MechWarrior were my two favorite games growing up
[16:19] <jrwren> i did not.
[16:19] <jrwren> i'm not a gamer.
[16:19] <jrwren> i only play starcraft2
[16:25] <greg-g> me neither anymore, but in high school I was
[16:26] <greg-g> which is why I haven't paid the $20 for the (linux supported) game and poster on KS
[16:34] <jrwren> trying to buy a house, realized i'm too poor, so no kickstarter for me in a while
[16:46] <greg-g> wait, the "I exercise AND save money" jrwren can't afford a house?
[16:46] <greg-g> that is potentially a poor joke, ignore if so
[16:46]  * greg-g had the impression jrwren was doing pretty well
[16:47] <rick_h_> http://ubuntuone.com/5C3EGSj1CiS4b4YLCfMiNR
[16:48] <greg-g> :)
[16:49] <snap-l_> ;)
[17:03] <jrwren> greg-g: i want a nice house in ann arbor, i'm the only income in our home, so its doable, just not easy.
[17:03] <shakes808> jrwren: I know a realtor if you need one.
[17:04] <jrwren> i have got one.
[17:04] <jrwren> who do you know?
[17:06] <shakes808> Her name is Maria and she had her own business but then the market went to shit so she is working for ?Keller Williams?
[17:06] <jrwren> ah, cool.
[17:09] <brousch> jrwren: Why move to AA?
[17:12] <jrwren> because its portland but smaller.
[17:13] <jrwren> honestly: mostly because of the general values of its citizens.
[17:13] <jrwren> i'm tired of living in a city where a majority of citizens think highly of walmart.
[17:14] <snap-l> so you're looking to s/walmart/whole foods/g ? ;)
[17:14] <jrwren> right
[17:19] <greg-g> haha
[17:19]  * greg-g is more of a fan of Trader Joe's
[17:19] <greg-g> cheaper and still good quality
[17:20] <greg-g> without all the energizing crytals
[17:20] <greg-g> jrwren: and yeah, totally understand that. I wish I could move back to A2 with my current (non-profit, mind you) SF salary
[17:22] <jrwren> i hear that. the houses we are looking at would be multimillion dollar homes in the bay area.
[17:23] <jrwren> trader joes is great if you don't want produce. given we buy primarily produce, adn no meat, and little dairy, TJs is not for us.
[17:23] <jrwren> I do like TJ's Peanut Butter.
[17:25] <greg-g> ahh, yeah, with our current diet (which sound similar to yours) we mostly just spend about $100 at the farmers market and we're good
[17:26] <greg-g> that's one thing I would miss, its true, the farmers' markets out here are awesome
[17:26] <snap-l> Meijer: It's like a Farmer's Market, but not.
[18:10] <shakes808> snap-l: Do you know if any C# 4.5 books are available? I see one that comes out the 29th and another that comes out Feb '13.
[18:11] <brousch> jrwren is the resident C#er
[18:12] <shakes808> Thank you brousch. Question redirected to you, jrwren. Any good books available for 4.5?
[18:14] <snap-l> Yeah, I know nothing of C#, except it comes after C, and just before D
[18:15] <snap-l> and is somethimes referred to as Db
[18:19] <Blazeix> if you need to learn basic C# before then you can be perfectly fine reading a C# 4 book.
[18:19] <Blazeix> net 4
[18:20] <Blazeix> the newest version adds some nice asynchronous constructs
[18:20] <Blazeix> but the basic way you develop it hasn't really changed
[18:21] <jrwren> shakes808: there is not much new to 4.5, what are you looking for.
[18:22] <jrwren> greg-g: farmers markets here are great, but its a short season, i immagine it is longer there.
[18:23] <greg-g> jrwren: multiple seasons really
[18:27] <shakes808> Firm I am with is going to move to be a .NET shop and I would assume that they are going to be porting to the newest frameworks.
[18:28] <shakes808> But I will see what I have in my collection when I get home and poke around with some 4.0 if I have it.
[18:28] <shakes808> Any good recommendations for 4.0?
[18:36] <Blazeix> do you have any experience with the platform at all?
[18:37] <Blazeix> I guess i'd recommend just playing around with MVC4 (it's free, along with the IDE)
[18:37] <shakes808> A little bit.
[18:37] <Blazeix> make sure you're using LINQ, lambdas, etc. if you follow online guides you'll be fine.
[18:38] <shakes808> Gotcha
[18:39] <shakes808> Thank you for the direction
[18:51] <Blazeix> so is the company going from Scheme to .NET? That's an interesting transformation.
[18:54] <snap-l> Sounds like a company that hired Paul Graham to consult. ;)
[18:58] <PainBank> anyone use Apache Thrift yet?
[19:13] <shakes808> Blazeix: Currently everything seems to be frankenstiened together with multiple languages. They are going to be refactoring everything to consolidate it
[20:26] <snap-l> http://metalinjection.fm has my show running currently
[20:26] <rick_h_> woot!
[20:26] <snap-l> You can hear some of my promos as well
[20:26] <greg-g> snap-l is popular!
[20:27] <snap-l> greg-g: You might like a few of them
[20:27] <greg-g> snap-l: cool, will tune in in a second, on a call
[20:27] <snap-l> np
[20:35] <snap-l> http://www.jwz.org/blog/2012/08/this-12-foot-tall-humpty-hump-head-needs-a-home-wonders-if-youre-ticklish/
[21:18] <snap-l> programming, in a nutshell:
[21:18] <snap-l> hate hate hate hate hate oh, it worked
[21:43] <rick_h_> snap-l: about sums it up