| ochosi | micahg: i'm pessimistic about "soonish", but we'll see.. | 08:08 |
|---|---|---|
| ochosi | bbl | 08:16 |
| mr_pouit | knome: I supposed someone had been working on that blueprint and could give me .desktop files =] | 10:25 |
| mr_pouit | indicator-application-gtk2 : Depends: indicator-application (= 0.5.0-0ubuntu1) but 12.10.0-0ubuntu2 is to be installed | 10:26 |
| mr_pouit | indicator-sound-gtk2 : Depends: indicator-sound (= 12.10.0-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installed | 10:26 |
| mr_pouit | micahg: ^ dailies fail to build, I guess that's why gilir dropped the indicators | 10:26 |
| ochosi | knome: i see you finished the testcase yesterday. well done | 11:06 |
| knome | Unit193, can you send mr_pouit the .desktop files? :] | 11:51 |
| knome | got a reply from the guy running the linux-classes with xubuntu. he says they're excited about xubuntu and will happily cooperate | 13:17 |
| knome | pleia2, ^ | 13:17 |
| knome | bluesabre, hey! | 13:18 |
| bluesabre | Hiya knome! | 13:18 |
| knome | bluesabre, PM ok? :) | 13:19 |
| smartboyhw | knome: Eventually, is there only you to test the upgrade?:) | 13:19 |
| smartboyhw | I mean 12.04.1 | 13:19 |
| bluesabre | PM..? | 13:19 |
| knome | smartboyhw, yes, i did all the tests, and there was one test done by somebody else | 13:19 |
| bluesabre | (private message?) | 13:19 |
| knome | bluesabre, private message, /q | 13:19 |
| smartboyhw | :) | 13:20 |
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| smartboyhw | o/ genii-around | 13:32 |
| knome | bluesabre, motion carried :) | 13:33 |
| knome | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2012-August/008382.html | 13:33 |
| * genii-around makes more coffee | 13:33 | |
| smartboyhw | knome: :) | 13:33 |
| bluesabre | Yay! | 13:33 |
| smartboyhw | Congrats bluesabre:) | 13:33 |
| knome | mr_pouit, next thing is to get him some push rights to the xubuntu-set... :) | 13:33 |
| smartboyhw | Just got the e-mail:) | 13:33 |
| GridCube | Congrats bluesabre :D | 13:34 |
| knome | bluesabre, i'm suggesting you'll apply for a ubuntu membership :) | 13:37 |
| knome | err, suggesting you to | 13:37 |
| smartboyhw | bluesabre: Yay, give me your wiki and I'm write a testimonial for you:) | 13:37 |
| knome | bluesabre, that should be a trivial task now... | 13:37 |
| bluesabre | knome: How do I apply for ubuntu membership? | 13:38 |
| knome | bluesabre, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership | 13:38 |
| bluesabre | Cool | 13:38 |
| bluesabre | I'll do that now :) | 13:38 |
| knome | bluesabre, basically, you write a wiki page of what you've done, ask for a few testimonials and go to a membership board meeting | 13:38 |
| knome | bluesabre, if they approve you, you get a ubuntu member IRC cloak as well as a "lpnick@ubuntu.com" email address | 13:39 |
| smartboyhw | bluesabre: You do have a wiki page? | 13:39 |
| bluesabre | Doesn't sound too painful. | 13:39 |
| knome | bluesabre, and, well, +1 for applying for sponsorship for UDS and all that stuff... :) | 13:39 |
| bluesabre | I don't have a wiki page yet. | 13:39 |
| smartboyhw | bluesabre: I'm not a member, and I do have one:) | 13:39 |
| bluesabre | Or if I do, I didn't make it :) | 13:39 |
| knome | bluesabre, lol :) | 13:40 |
| GridCube | i dont have an ubuntu membership :( | 13:43 |
| knome | GridCube, go get one tiger. | 13:43 |
| knome | :) | 13:43 |
| smartboyhw | GridCube: Get one:) | 13:43 |
| smartboyhw | I'll wait till Dec to get one, I'm new:) | 13:43 |
| GridCube | :P but i havent done much to ubuntu besides bother people on -devel channels | 13:45 |
| knome | GridCube, giving user support counts too | 13:45 |
| GridCube | :D that i do do | 13:45 |
| smartboyhw | GridCube: :D | 13:46 |
| knome | GridCube, and testing. | 13:46 |
| knome | GridCube, and bug triage-related stuff | 13:46 |
| knome | GridCube, and creating a FAQ | 13:46 |
| smartboyhw | GridCube, and documentation | 13:47 |
| GridCube | :P | 13:47 |
| GridCube | no, i didnt do documentation | 13:47 |
| smartboyhw | GridCube: That's enough to gain you a membership:) | 13:47 |
| GridCube | :D awesome | 13:47 |
| smartboyhw | :D | 13:47 |
| knome | GridCube, you can now, we're rewriting ;) | 13:47 |
| GridCube | i already have a wiki page tho :P | 13:47 |
| smartboyhw | knome: Can I have your wiki page? | 13:47 |
| knome | "have my wiki page" ?:P | 13:48 |
| knome | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PasiLallinaho/ | 13:48 |
| knome | and my page for running for the XPL https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PasiLallinaho/XPL | 13:48 |
| smartboyhw | What's XPL? | 13:49 |
| knome | xubuntu project lead | 13:49 |
| smartboyhw | Ah. | 13:49 |
| smartboyhw | Ow man, when will Ubuntu 11.10 finish install/ | 13:50 |
| smartboyhw | knome: How long did astraljava did testing and QA for Xubuntu? Just want to know:) | 13:52 |
| knome | smartboyhw, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2012-June/008242.html and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2012-June/008247.html officially, but he was active before that, and that's why he was made the QA lead | 13:56 |
| smartboyhw | Wow. | 13:57 |
| knome | wow what | 13:57 |
| smartboyhw | knome: Wow on astraljava and your work:) | 13:57 |
| knome | thanks | 13:58 |
| bluesabre | Here's my wiki page now. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeanDavis | 14:04 |
| smartboyhw | That's quick:) | 14:05 |
| knome | i'll take the first lock. | 14:05 |
| smartboyhw | knome: You mean look? | 14:06 |
| knome | no, lock. | 14:06 |
| knome | i'm editing the page, and you can't. that's a lock. | 14:06 |
| smartboyhw | Oh | 14:06 |
| smartboyhw | BTW, added a testimonial already:) | 14:06 |
| bluesabre | Thanks smartboyhw | 14:07 |
| knome | smartboyhw, did you know that testimonials for these kind of things are usually given by senior community members to the junior members, or those applying to be one? | 14:14 |
| smartboyhw | :) | 14:14 |
| smartboyhw | Kidding: Someone write ME a testimonial:) | 14:15 |
| knome | smartboyhw, continue contributing to testing as you've done now, and i will some day. | 14:15 |
| smartboyhw | Thanks | 14:15 |
| elfy | anyone know what the state of the docs is at the moment - don't want to start duplicating effort | 14:32 |
| knome | state? :) | 14:32 |
| smartboyhw | Status. | 14:32 |
| knome | smartboyhw, i know | 14:32 |
| knome | elfy, in what sense? | 14:32 |
| knome | elfy, i believe people working with it are constantly sending their updates to the wiki, so it should be as it looks like :) | 14:33 |
| elfy | knome: :) in the - which one's are in need of work - has there been any sort of record kept about what's been done | 14:33 |
| knome | the wiki serves us that | 14:33 |
| elfy | ok - so it's still - look and fix as you see things | 14:33 |
| knome | yes, it will be that until we convert to docbook | 14:33 |
| elfy | okey doke | 14:33 |
| knome | and we will let you know once we do | 14:34 |
| knome | (not planned yet) | 14:34 |
| elfy | I don't want to start doing things someone else is half way through basically | 14:34 |
| knome | if you know about the internet stuff (how to connect/troubleshoot different ways), that would be good to get in shape | 14:34 |
| knome | eg. the "Internet and Networks" section under "Quick guide to default applications" | 14:35 |
| knome | (which is a bit weird place, but we can fix that later) | 14:35 |
| elfy | yea - I am not good at that stuff - I've never really had a need - but I will look at existing and see what I can do then | 14:35 |
| knome | ah, in that case probably look at something else | 14:35 |
| knome | this needs to be correct, since this documentation might be everything somebody has, because he can't connect to internet | 14:35 |
| knome | even i am not confident enough to go poking, yet | 14:36 |
| elfy | ok - 2 minutes and I will have a look at the new wiki stuff and come back | 14:36 |
| knome | sure | 14:36 |
| elfy | knome - I'll take section 8, check section 11 and make a start on section 12 | 14:39 |
| knome | elfy, awesome | 14:40 |
| elfy | now - suspending/hibernating for instance - hibernate is disabled - so do we assume that the manual should ONLY deal with default setup | 14:40 |
| knome | elfy, if you want, you can add a short notification at the start of those pages | 14:40 |
| elfy | yea - that makes sense | 14:40 |
| knome | elfy, yeah. and i just looked at that page too; i don't know if it makes sense to basically say "if you have problems, file a bug or restart the computer" | 14:41 |
| elfy | lol | 14:41 |
| knome | so consider dropping that.. :P | 14:42 |
| elfy | :) | 14:42 |
| elfy | ok - so I have my little list of jobs then ... I assume that waht you are aiming at is not so much information someone would just think - what? I'm new - what does that mean? and enough to get them working and able to dig further elsewhere if they want | 14:43 |
| knome | yes | 14:43 |
| elfy | excellent | 14:43 |
| knome | we should link to applications' own docs as much as possible | 14:43 |
| knome | no reason to duplicate information and make our maintaining burden bigger | 14:44 |
| elfy | yep | 14:44 |
| knome | i'm hoping it is realistically possible to update the docs every release after this rewrite | 14:45 |
| elfy | yea - I would suggest that if that is the plan - then a doc somewhere with the index - so people can put name against things | 14:46 |
| knome | well | 14:46 |
| knome | updating the docs every release after the rewrite should be such an easy thing that one person is able to do that | 14:46 |
| elfy | knome: if this set of docs is well written then 6 month release should be a piece of cake | 14:46 |
| elfy | yea - just got there :) | 14:47 |
| knome | exactly | 14:47 |
| knome | being relatively short helps too | 14:47 |
| elfy | yep | 14:47 |
| knome | doesn't look too big task either | 14:47 |
| smartboyhw | unless you got a big change:) | 14:47 |
| knome | smartboyhw, yes, but even then there isn't much to rewrite. | 14:48 |
| elfy | yea - big pile makes it easier to think - tomorrow perhaps, don't have the time now | 14:48 |
| elfy | talking of which - at some point one of the xubuntu.org pages could do with a little fiddle - who's best person to talk to about that? | 14:48 |
| knome | smartboyhw, think about rewriting one page of the changed feature versus rewriting 10 pages of the changed feature | 14:49 |
| knome | elfy, tell me which page | 14:49 |
| knome | elfy, i am, or pleia2 | 14:49 |
| elfy | http://xubuntu.org/help/ | 14:49 |
| smartboyhw | knome: :) | 14:49 |
| knome | elfy, yeah, do you mean just to include the offline docs, or something else too? | 14:49 |
| elfy | online forums etc the forum bit knome - at the moment says "mention in your post that you are using Xubuntu." can be amended | 14:50 |
| elfy | tell them to use the Tag system - there are xfce and Xubuntu tags available | 14:50 |
| knome | elfy, would you be willing to do the rewrite part? if yes, just send me email with the new text and i'll update | 14:51 |
| elfy | ok - I will do that and e-maill you it | 14:51 |
| elfy | right - I shall get on with something now then | 14:52 |
| knome | e thanks :) | 14:52 |
| knome | +lfy, | 14:52 |
| elfy | welcome k | 14:52 |
| elfy | nome | 14:52 |
| knome | ;) | 14:52 |
| elfy | :) | 14:52 |
| knome | meh, i promised my wife to get out of the house today | 14:53 |
| elfy | best get a move on then lol | 14:53 |
| knome | haha | 14:53 |
| knome | soon... | 14:54 |
| knome | she's at work, so no schedule :P just promised to go out... ;) | 14:54 |
| elfy | :) I have just delivered little one to her mum - have whole weekend of peace | 14:54 |
| knome | could take the garbage out and go for a walk | 14:54 |
| knome | congrats | 14:54 |
| * knome slept almost until 15 | 14:55 | |
| knome | have been awake for about three hours now :P | 14:55 |
| elfy | blimey - I've had a mad couple of days tbh - not sure where I was at all | 14:55 |
| knome | haha | 14:55 |
| smartboyhw | knome: Is astraljava on holiday these days? | 15:13 |
| knome | smartboyhw, no, i'm sure he's working like a mad | 15:14 |
| smartboyhw | knome: OK, wanted to ask him about a upgrade testcase in 12.10 for Ubuntu Studio:) | 15:14 |
| knome | good luck in getting a hold of him | 15:14 |
| smartboyhw | knome: Am I wrong, or are you a Testcase Admin? | 15:14 |
| knome | i am | 15:14 |
| smartboyhw | I am just two days ago:) | 15:15 |
| knome | bluesabre, you probably want to mention menulibre and any postponed projects for Q too in your wiki page | 15:19 |
| sj | Hi, I just joined the xubuntu-devel mailing list and had a quick look through the launchpad bug list, I was wondering if there's a wiki page to get started fixing bugs | 15:21 |
| sj | Or if anyone would like to mentor me | 15:22 |
| smartboyhw | You mean http://xubuntu.org/contribute/development/? | 15:22 |
| knome | sj, you might want to hang around at this channel for a while to get a grasp how the community works :) | 15:22 |
| knome | sj, there's no specific list of bugs the xubuntu team works on, but any package with xubuntu or xfce in their name are a good start | 15:23 |
| sj | knome yeah certainly. smartboyhw, I've read all the related pages from there. | 15:23 |
| sj | knome: ok, thanks | 15:23 |
| smartboyhw | knome: Been looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Leaders I thought of one thing: Isn't elfy the doc lead? | 15:23 |
| knome | smartboyhw, nope, the page is current | 15:24 |
| smartboyhw | But there's no doc lead there... | 15:24 |
| knome | smartboyhw, that's true | 15:24 |
| smartboyhw | Now I'm confused?? | 15:25 |
| knome | the whole community just takes care of that | 15:25 |
| bluesabre | knome, Yeah, I'm going to add MenuLibre and the other things :) | 15:26 |
| smartboyhw | Oh | 15:26 |
| knome | bluesabre, is the music on the menulibre video yours? | 15:27 |
| bluesabre | knome, no, it's using YouTube's audio swap with CC-A music I believe | 15:27 |
| knome | bluesabre, mmhmm :) nice choice though | 15:28 |
| bluesabre | Usually I find CC-SA music on my own and add it, but I was lazy that day :D | 15:28 |
| bluesabre | Thanks | 15:28 |
| elfy | smartboyhw: I am nothing to do with xubuntu - other than hanging about and helping where and when I can | 15:41 |
| smartboyhw | :) | 15:41 |
| knome | jjfrv8, read your comments on the strategy document yesterday and most of them are applied as is to strategydoc.knome.fi | 15:52 |
| knome | jjfrv8, they were really helpful, thanks! | 15:52 |
| jjfrv8 | Great. Glad I could contribute something. Thanks. | 15:53 |
| knome | of course. looking forward to your contributions to the docs if you are still up to it :) | 15:54 |
| jjfrv8 | Yup. I'm still plugging away as we speak. | 15:54 |
| knome | great | 15:55 |
| micahg | mr_pouit: re dailies, yeah, lubuntu had the same issue, seems to me that those dependencies should be >= rather than = or something's fishy there | 15:58 |
| micahg | \o/ alternates not oversized and desktop images down to 717/733 | 16:12 |
| knome | yay | 16:12 |
| knome | but they are wondering if it's a bug :P | 16:12 |
| Unit193 | knome: Sure I could, anything other than the plain Xfce tag? I haven't seen categories in the settings manager. >_> | 18:41 |
| Unit193 | Oh, and I'm going to be "social" this evening, so won't be on. | 18:41 |
| knome | Unit193, can you elaborate with mr_pouit? he'll let you know what he needs, if anything. :) | 18:50 |
| Unit193 | He's scary. :3 But alrighty. When is that needed in at the latest? | 18:51 |
| knome | UIF | 18:55 |
| knome | wait, ubuntu is going to drop alternative? | 19:11 |
| holstein | interesting... | 19:12 |
| knome | or alternate | 19:12 |
| knome | :P | 19:12 |
| knome | yeah. | 19:12 |
| Unit193 | What? Well that's not good. | 19:17 |
| holstein | seems like there would be community support for one.. maybe just one minimal "netinstall" kind of alternate iso | 19:22 |
| knome | well there is the minimal cd already! | 19:24 |
| knome | !minimal | 19:24 |
| ubottu | The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 19:24 |
| * pleia2 frowns at the wiki | 19:48 | |
| pleia2 | no worky | 19:48 |
| knome | meh | 19:48 |
| knome | how's the about page? | 19:48 |
| pleia2 | http://princessleia.com/temp/about-xubuntu.txt | 19:49 |
| pleia2 | that's what I would have put in the wiki ;) | 19:50 |
| pleia2 | it merges the three, I think I got all the main points | 19:50 |
| knome | why wiki? | 19:50 |
| knome | why not the website | 19:50 |
| knome | and remove the wikipage | 19:50 |
| knome | wasn't that our idea anyway | 19:50 |
| knome | silly girl | 19:50 |
| pleia2 | I am putting it on the wiki for review and edits | 19:50 |
| pleia2 | eventually the canonical one will be xubuntu.org/about | 19:50 |
| pleia2 | still drafting though :) | 19:50 |
| knome | oh, the *canonical* one | 19:51 |
| * knome giggles | 19:51 | |
| pleia2 | littlt c | 19:51 |
| pleia2 | little too | 19:51 |
| knome | i didn't know they were writing their own version too | 19:51 |
| knome | yeah yeah | 19:51 |
| knome | :P | 19:51 |
| knome | i'm a bit against listing the application "categories" | 19:53 |
| pleia2 | where? | 19:53 |
| knome | "...desktop offering that includes a variety of useful applications for every day use." | 19:53 |
| knome | last paragraph, second sentence | 19:53 |
| pleia2 | ah | 19:53 |
| pleia2 | ok, can refresh | 19:54 |
| knome | another one i'm thinking is if we want to mention Unity | 19:54 |
| pleia2 | also need to sort out pronouns, I think sometimes it's written as if we-the-project-members are writing it, and sometimes it's a bit more removed | 19:54 |
| pleia2 | "Xubuntu is" "We provide" | 19:55 |
| pleia2 | I'm leaning toward "Xubuntu is" "Xubuntu provides" | 19:55 |
| knome | "...operating system. Xubuntu uses the Xfce DE and comes with a defaul set of..." | 19:55 |
| knome | -typos | 19:55 |
| knome | meh | 19:56 |
| knome | http://www.typewith.me/p/x_about | 19:56 |
| pleia2 | :) | 19:56 |
| knome | marking links with _link text_ for better readability | 19:57 |
| pleia2 | k | 19:57 |
| knome | are we repeating ourselves? | 19:58 |
| pleia2 | in the last paragraph? | 19:58 |
| knome | see the blue dots | 19:58 |
| pleia2 | there | 19:59 |
| knome | yeah bot | 19:59 |
| knome | but | 19:59 |
| pleia2 | oh that | 19:59 |
| knome | read the first <p> | 19:59 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 19:59 |
| knome | familiar/conservative? | 20:04 |
| pleia2 | familiar is too vague (familar to what?) | 20:04 |
| knome | heh | 20:05 |
| knome | conservative isn't without problems either | 20:05 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 20:05 |
| pleia2 | I think what we're trying to communicate easy, not hard to learn | 20:06 |
| knome | eh, tautology | 20:06 |
| knome | "immediately ready to use" | 20:06 |
| knome | wait, what? | 20:07 |
| knome | :D | 20:07 |
| pleia2 | ready to use | 20:07 |
| pleia2 | that's good | 20:07 |
| knome | that's meh | 20:07 |
| knome | :D | 20:07 |
| knome | we use that in the sentence before | 20:07 |
| pleia2 | wait, we say ready to use just before that | 20:07 |
| knome | yeah | 20:07 |
| knome | we said "immediately ready to use" | 20:07 |
| knome | :P | 20:07 |
| pleia2 | there | 20:07 |
| knome | i'd say elegant, but | 20:08 |
| knome | ;) | 20:08 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 20:08 |
| knome | what about simple/straightforward? | 20:08 |
| pleia2 | oh right, what do we say in strat doc | 20:08 |
| pleia2 | yeah, straightforward | 20:08 |
| knome | we need to change that too | 20:08 |
| Sysi | put intuitive somewhere so we can start telling people how we're not copying os x because of unity | 20:08 |
| knome | :P | 20:08 |
| knome | i'm not sure if that belongs to the about page :P | 20:09 |
| pleia2 | i hate inuitive | 20:09 |
| pleia2 | if you read the unity list, you quickly learn that it means nothing :) | 20:09 |
| pleia2 | (also, don't read the unity list if you have better things to do, like watching tv) | 20:10 |
| GridCube | or picking your nose | 20:11 |
| knome | pleia2, ha! it just struck me | 20:11 |
| knome | pleia2, read the mission statement and the target page at strategy document | 20:11 |
| knome | whenever you hit "elegant", think "straightforward" | 20:12 |
| pleia2 | straightforward and ease of use are very similar | 20:12 |
| knome | yes | 20:12 |
| knome | but by straightforward, i mean: keeps out of the way | 20:13 |
| pleia2 | I think by elegant we were meaning we think it's pretty | 20:13 |
| pleia2 | or similarly nice | 20:13 |
| knome | that too, partly | 20:13 |
| knome | but polished is there too | 20:13 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 20:13 |
| knome | i'll fix that | 20:13 |
| pleia2 | like, we're saying it's easy and not yucky to look at | 20:13 |
| pleia2 | (not 2nd choice for refugees :)) | 20:14 |
| knome | " This is why Xubuntu should be easy to use and have an elegant appearance that doesn't get in the way. " | 20:14 |
| knome | in that, just remove 'elegant' | 20:14 |
| knome | works? | 20:14 |
| pleia2 | I dunno, I'm in the "I like elegant" camp :) | 20:15 |
| pleia2 | I think it communicates what I want it to say | 20:15 |
| knome | that's under " Focus 1: Usability " | 20:15 |
| knome | maybe we can remove it there | 20:15 |
| pleia2 | fair enough | 20:15 |
| knome | i like elegance too | 20:15 |
| knome | the several nuances its telling are the reason why i picked it | 20:16 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 20:16 |
| knome | http://strategydoc.knome.fi/target/ | 20:18 |
| pleia2 | good | 20:19 |
| knome | " It is important for us to provide a polished and unified product that is ready for our users. " | 20:19 |
| knome | does that sentence suck a bit? | 20:19 |
| pleia2 | nah | 20:19 |
| knome | ok. | 20:19 |
| knome | ...ready for end-users ? | 20:20 |
| knome | dunno. | 20:20 |
| knome | we say so in the mission statement | 20:20 |
| knome | Xubuntu delivers a polished and unified product ready for end-users. | 20:20 |
| knome | ^MS | 20:20 |
| pleia2 | sure | 20:20 |
| knome | with these changes, i'm ready to go public. | 20:21 |
| pleia2 | \o/ | 20:21 |
| mr_pouit | Unit193: xfce4-settings-manager 4.10 has categories | 20:38 |
| mr_pouit | Personal/Hw/System, like you wrote on the wiki page | 20:39 |
| mr_pouit | Unit193: just add the .desktop filename for each item, that's good enough for me :P | 20:40 |
| mr_pouit | knome: anyway, that's related to the topic "do we want to drop the submenu and put everything in xfce4-settings-manager?" :) | 20:42 |
| knome | :) | 20:42 |
| Unit193 | mr_pouit: I'll remove the compiz one and add all the ones I have in info, sound cool? (I don't have compiz, or a couple others as they were ideas, but I may find them) | 20:43 |
| knome | mr_pouit, the new SD is public ;) | 20:44 |
| mr_pouit | yep, thanks (I only need the filename to add it to the settings manager, e.g. users.desktop :>) | 20:44 |
| mr_pouit | knome: SD, as in Steve Dodier? :P | 20:44 |
| * mr_pouit runs | 20:44 | |
| knome | haha | 20:44 |
| knome | i wish i could make new steves | 20:45 |
| knome | ;) | 20:45 |
| === lool- is now known as lool | ||
| === SkippersBoss_ is now known as skippersboss | ||
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