[00:56] aaahhhhooowwwww [05:32] hi superfly and others [05:44] morning all [05:46] hi magespawn === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [06:17] hi Trixar_za [06:19] Hey Kilos [07:01] hi psydroid [07:05] hey Kilos [07:14] hi Kilos [07:14] hi magespawn [07:43] hi psydroid [07:55] morning Kilos and magespawn and psydroid [07:56] morning superfly === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [08:26] did anybody say anything more about the ubuntu hour? [08:32] other than being excited to do it? no [08:32] anyone else got in a few days early on Simfy? [08:50] well if ppl want let me know I am in Durban currently [08:51] hrm [08:52] morning [08:53] goeiemore [08:53] the rain is bad for my tv stream over wifi [08:53] hi Kerbero Symmetria [08:55] whew [08:55] lol, so, this french dude who was at afpif with me [08:55] lekker summers day [08:55] says he's going on a tour of the lion park today [08:55] lol [08:55] so I told him to never forget, he's supposed to eat the pussy not let the pussy eat him :p [08:55] kruger is guees? [08:55] LOL! [08:55] *i guess [08:56] umm I dunno, some tour he booked that goes to soweto and then some lion park near joburg [08:56] o ok [08:56] from where is the french dude [08:57] we also have some french visitors around there atm going to visit kruger and then come to stellenbosch for a workshop [08:57] good morning [08:57] Maaz: coffee on [08:57] * Maaz starts grinding coffee [08:57] hi charlvn [08:58] Maaz, coffee please [08:58] Kilos: Sure [08:58] heh he was from jaguar networks [08:58] hi Kilos [08:58] I have to say, afpif was an awesome, awesome conference [08:58] and I also have to say, heh, if you wanna see IT and network innovation, keep an eye on UFS going forward :) [08:59] ok [09:01] Coffee's ready for charlvn and Kilos! [09:01] Maaz: thanks [09:01] charlvn: Sure [09:01] Maaz, ty [09:01] You are welcome Kilos [09:31] hi oom Kilos [09:31] nuvolari: By the way, magespawn on freenode told me "tell nuvolari what is happening tomrrow?" 13 hours, 42 minutes and 44 seconds ago [09:31] oi [09:31] hello oom Kilos [09:31] missed that [09:32] we're at gateway having an ubuntu hour [09:32] hi there kbmonkey you ok laddy [09:32] the first one in a freaking long time [09:32] lo nuvolari [09:33] well done lads dont forget a few pics hey [09:33] nuvolari, you dropped magespawn [09:33] we're trying to create a vpn concentrator at UFS that will allow staff or students to get a specific type of router, its pre-configured, so when he plugs it in, it authenticates, logs into the university, and gets a block of space routed to it so he can have proper ip space to his house, including ipv6 and multicast routing [09:33] naughty boy [09:34] yes Kilos, how is the koffie? :-) [09:34] lol [09:34] Maaz, coffee on [09:34] * Maaz washes some mugs [09:35] Maaz, coffee for all [09:35] Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already [09:35] maaz should bring some pots out and just put them on the table [09:36] and bring the rusks [09:36] lol [09:36] Maaz, with rusks [09:36] There is a packet of Ouma's in the cupboard Kilos help yourself [09:36] * Kilos shares rusks with the guys [09:38] Maaz, get more oumas [09:38] Ok Kilos I'll send someone to get a trolley full [09:38] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [09:38] Maaz, danke [09:38] Bitteschön [09:40] agg no Kilos it was only a maybe anyway. [09:40] ah ok magespawn [09:40] woulda been good though [09:40] but I am still in Durban so [09:41] try make a turn there [09:42] kick nuvolari s butt for being so scarce [09:43] whoi [09:43] hehe [09:47] like magic [09:56] nuvolari i am getting something to eat then i am on my way out of durbs [10:00] magespawn: so are you coming around? [10:00] We'll be here forr a while [10:00] *for [10:00] if it is cool [10:00] leaving durbs now [10:01] where? [10:01] Gloria Joans Cofees [10:01] close to the wavehouse [10:01] Ballito? [10:02] Gateway [10:02] sorry [10:02] :P [10:02] no worries just leaving springfield park now. [10:08] lo [10:17] hello ubuntu-za :-) [10:23] hello kbmonkey [10:28] nuvolari, what you guys doing [10:28] ? [10:35] hi Kilos, we are sitting with pc's talking geek Xd [10:42] I'm finally certified in something [10:49] talk geek to me kbmonkey [10:50] nuvolari, helped me do the keyring thing but i didnt save the how to [10:50] what Squirm ? [10:50] Kilos: I passwd my exam I did yesterday [10:50] passed [10:51] well done Squirm now for the next one [10:51] congrats [10:59] I am a Red Hat Certified System Administrator [11:00] Kilos I made it here [11:05] yay magespawn kick him [11:06] great news Squirm === bodhi64 is now known as smile [11:15] Hi all :) [12:02] just leaving an ubuntu lunch hour with nuvolari and kbmonkey [12:11] * Symmetria configures his new dsl router [12:11] heh [12:11] this could take me a while [12:11] my new "dsl router" is sooooo much more than a dsl router, lol, got an srx 210 [12:11] <3 [12:12] lol actually gonna get some sleep before I attempt that [12:35] just left an ubuntu (lunch) hour with kbmonkey and nuvolari, nice to meet ppl face to face, tks guys === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za [12:36] go safe magespawn [12:50] just had an interesting convo, he said that most programmers end up in the bankng sector [12:51] hi Trixar_za zeref [12:51] Hi Kilos [12:52] Hi Kilos [13:10] hi Trixar_za, zeref, magespawn & Kilos [13:12] hi smile [13:13] Hi smile [13:13] :) [13:14] hi smile [13:23] hi Cantide [13:23] hello '-' [13:33] hi Kilos :) how are you doing? [13:33] ok ty smile and you [13:34] Kilos: I'm fine :) Working hard on my father's website [13:34] good lad [13:36] ^^ [13:37] the old website used some javascript [13:37] so the code is sometimes very messy [13:42] French sucks. Certainly with their accents in HTML code :| [13:50] lol === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [14:09] good afternoon [14:09] hi smile, Kilos [14:09] lo charlvn [14:10] hi charlvn did you wake up so early? ;) [14:10] Kilos: I used find & replace ^^ [14:16] smile: hahaha, it's summer, there's no time for sleeping out in the morning! [14:20] charlvn: Well I mean you :) you just started talking. Have you slept the whole morning? [14:28] smile: my first message was at 10:57 today :) [14:29] i am enjoying the best of the weather while it still lasts [14:29] in two months it starts getting colder [14:31] charlvn: I see ;) I wasn't here then, I think [14:31] but cold in SA is never really cold [14:32] cold in Belgium, that's cold [14:38] so who's up for rAge? [14:38] smile: it can fall below freezing in za but i have never seen it fall below -5 or so [14:38] Squirm: what is that? [14:39] charlvn: it's been about -10 by me in kzn a few times this winter [14:39] * Squirm eyes charlvn [14:39] charlvn: what :o that's crazy warm [14:39] rAge will again feature the sleep-depriving three day NAG LAN @ rAge event brought to you by Corex. This is a wired melting pot of adrenalin-filled gaming in the form of a 53-hour BYOC (Bring Your Own Computer) LAN. [14:39] The NAG LAN @ rAge is the biggest gaming LAN in South Africa, with 2,460 gamers connected to the same network for a weekend of pure gaming. The entire event translates into a gaming fanatic’s ultimate experience. [14:39] lot of days under freezing temperature here in winter. [14:40] and smile [14:40] -10 is bloody cold [14:41] yeah Squirm our skins arent so thick [14:41] dunno how charlvn manages [14:42] squirm, well yeah, that begins ;) [14:43] here it can fall under -10 also :) cold wind from the north makes it rapidly cold [14:43] oh, dont get me wrong, it can get colder there [14:44] but you have houses equipped to deal with it [14:47] Squirm: Okay, I see :) So winter isn't much different from here, except for the (average) warmer climate [15:26] Squirm: ok but that is unusual though? [15:27] charlvn: for Mooi River in winter? Not really :/ [15:27] but it only happens a few times in about a space of a month [15:27] Squirm: hmmm is that inland? in the north cape or so? [15:27] i can imagine it in the desert, not along the coast [15:27] kind of, central kzn [15:27] i used to live along the coast so i never got that [15:27] ok well that could be yeah [15:28] no desert at all [15:28] it really does depend on where you live [15:28] in gaborone it also got extremely cold during the winter nights [15:28] but that's because it's in the middle of the desert [15:30] mooiriver is a terrible place in winter [15:30] even snowed closed there this year [15:31] charlvn, its about 15oks inland from durban [15:31] maybe bit more . i dont remember [15:31] oks? [15:32] it's about 100/150km inland from Durbs [16:21] howdy all [16:34] yo magespawn you home? [16:47] kbmonkey, you still online laddy? [16:47] thats good [16:47] gonna rain [16:48] my new appartment actually has double glass and artifical window frames [16:48] it has an a+ rating for energy efficiency [16:48] i think in the winter we have it warmer in europe than you people in south africa [16:49] i need very little gas to keep the inside at a 20 degrees [16:49] yeah like limeyland double glazed windows and underfloor heating [16:49] the door is the same [16:49] limeyland? [16:49] amazing how double glazing keeps cold out [16:49] england [16:49] double glazing? [16:50] double glass on windows [16:50] oh i guess that's what they call it in english [16:50] in dutch we call it "dubbelglas" [16:50] the empty space in between helps keep cold out [16:51] ah [16:51] but lets heat from the sun in lekker [16:51] yup Kilos just had dinner with the family [16:51] underfloor heating is bad though [16:51] it causes fires [16:51] you cant test it at night. feel the inside one then feel the outside one [16:51] i have never seen it in the netherlands [16:52] ah [16:52] yeah i know, the inside feels warm [16:52] you can easily see which windows are double glass and which aren't [16:52] because the insides of the other windows get full of water [16:52] the water that condenses from the air [16:52] not dangerous if built into cement topping on concrete floor [16:52] ah maybe, i have never seen it [16:53] is everything wood there [16:53] here we just use a normal central heating system [16:53] no i also have a cement floor [16:53] cement doesnt burn [16:54] but that uses electricity no? [16:54] yes [16:54] that's expensive relative to gas [16:54] ah [16:54] gas not used much in za [16:54] the gas burns and heats the water, the steam goes through pipes to the radiators throughout the house [16:54] stoves geysers everything electric [16:55] ah yeah i have never seen gas through the wall in south africa [16:55] only electricity and water [16:55] gas you have to buy in bottles [16:55] you see gas bottles a lot on the outside of restaurants [16:55] yes you get it here but not many houses use it [16:55] but they have to get them refilled manually [16:56] electricity was always cheap till last few years [16:56] ah i see [16:56] but gas is very expensive here [16:56] we have a lot of natural gas in europe, some of it comes from russia but we also get a lot from the north sea [16:56] ah [16:56] i don't know why because mosgas used to pump a lot of gas from underneath the ocean [16:57] but then they just convert it to petrolium products [16:57] they don't pump it around into many houses, i think [16:57] but if gas is expensive there is no point [16:57] you can rather use electricity [16:57] some people i know used to work for mosgas in the ict section [16:58] but they got paid practically nothing, something like 5.000 rand per month [16:58] for a programmer to earn that little, it's quite strange [16:58] you would think people like mosgas (or petrosa or whatever it is called now) could at least pay people better [16:58] ya [16:59] there is a serious problem with employment in the more remote parts of south africa [16:59] there are so many people desperate for work, people do specialist work and get paid practically nothing [16:59] that is not good [16:59] i grew up in one of the fairly remote parts myself, i had to start traveling to make money [17:02] the funny thing is you always read in the news about black people having trouble with work [17:02] but this is white people we are talking about [17:06] charlvn if you think 5000 is little you should what they pay qualified field guides. [17:07] magespawn: please tell [17:25] Maaz: coffee [17:25] smile: *blink* [17:25] :) [17:25] Maaz: tea [17:25] smile: tea is a brew made from a tea bush from ceylon [17:25] ^^ [17:25] Maaz: help [17:25] smile: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff. [17:25] Ask me "help me with ..." for more details. [17:27] Maaz: help me with love [17:27] smile: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features. [17:27] haha ^^ [17:27] yeah guys pay is poor here in za [17:28] sorry charlvn got distracted by family [17:28] peeps dont believe if you pay peanuts you get monkeys [17:28] Kilos: what does gerieflik mean? [17:28] comfy i think [17:28] great lovely [17:29] somewhere in there [17:29] pleasant [17:29] also everbody in sa has problems with work [17:29] comfy is right according to the wife [17:29] yeah 50 mil after 1 mil jobs [17:30] there is enough jobs and other oppotunities here [17:30] magespawn, she be a clever chick hey? [17:30] that s whi i married her [17:30] why [17:30] lol [17:31] :> howdy magespawn, oom kilos, smile [17:31] so you dont have to think [17:31] just not enought education [17:31] lo nuvolari [17:31] Kilos: okay [17:31] hey nuvopari [17:31] brb :) [17:31] glad to see you arrived safely magespawn! [17:31] typo gremlins running riot tonight [17:31] hehe [17:31] ty nuvolari [17:32] yes smile you use it as in i am comfortable in this chair ty [17:33] ek is gerieflik in die stoel ankie [17:33] dankie [17:33] magespawn: if you ever do panorama shots, and want to stitch multiple pics together, hugin.sourceforge.net is your friend [17:33] I tried to stitch manually before... spent over an hour and the result looked like, well, junk. [17:33] i will check it out. [17:33] hugin does it with the click of 3 buttons in less than 4 minutes [17:34] it does. i did get some software for the phone that does it quite well. [17:36] nuvolari, does hugin work in ubuntu? [17:38] its a .tar [17:44] brb dog has broken a water pipe [17:44] ai [17:45] musta been very thirsty [17:50] * digigram_ is not really here... [17:51] Kilos if you untar the file, maybe you can use Make to install it... [17:51] * digigram_ you did not see me [17:51] lol [17:51] i dunno how to do that [17:52] untar is extract? [17:52] why are you trying to install something from source? [17:52] i google for hugin superfly [17:52] googled [17:53] Kilos: did you try searching the repositories first? [17:53] for ubuntu but it wants to first install that getdeb thing i already have [17:53] oops [17:55] ty superfly its in synaptic [17:55] my lifesaver the fly [17:56] heh, damn, the software firmware upgrade for my dsl router is 140meg big [17:57] Symmetria: what type of dsl router is that?! [17:58] aw , coulda even asked aptitude to get it [17:58] * Kilos bangs head against wall [17:58] sounds like a dsl router with a built-in NAS or something [17:58] heh charlvn a juniper srx 210 [17:58] its... not exactly a normal dsl router :) hehehe [17:58] maybe one of these so-called "cloud" devices with a built-in vpn or something for remote access [17:59] ok lemme google [17:59] its basically a juniper firewall that has dsl capabilities [17:59] ah this one? http://www.juniper.net/as/en/products-services/security/srx-series/srx210/ [17:59] yeah [18:00] ah i see it has a usb port for a 3g connection as failover? [18:00] yeah [18:00] runnig Junos OS 10.4.r1 lemme loook it up [18:01] heh Im upgrading to version 12 actually :) that page is outta date [18:01] some wifi routers can double as a nas but that mostly is for home use [18:01] this looks much more like it was aimed at corporate use [18:02] heh a home dsl router with bgp support ±' [18:02] hmmm, i seem to have a problem with my keyboard layout, sorry [18:02] wanted to do a smily face and ended up with that weird ±' [18:02] hehehe yeah you wont find these in most homes [18:02] they are a little... price prohibitive [18:04] (translation: the thing costs 10 grand) [18:04] interesting, i see junos is based on freebsd [18:04] but they apparently coming out with a 110 [18:04] that will be a LOT cheaper [18:04] heh yeah, all juniper products run junos and its all bsd based [18:05] its bsd based to the point where you can install a junos package on a freebsd box, reboot it, and it comes up as a software router [18:05] thats a fully functional juniper [18:05] just without the hardware offloads [18:05] wow it even has Multiprotocol Label Switching support [18:05] brb rebooting for new software [18:06] very interesting [18:07] bbl dinner [18:07] enjoy [18:10] oom Kilos, yeah, it works :> [18:10] cross-platform from what I've read [18:10] usually when I mention something to work, it's ubuntu by default :P [18:11] I don't have anything else to test on hehe [18:12] oom Kilos, you must come join us for the next Ubuntu Hour :P [18:12] ai i would love to nuvolari [18:13] but you guys are far and i got sheep to look after and food to cook [18:13] hmm, that's a bit of a problem. How can we fix that? [18:13] nuvolari, what works?? [18:13] hugin [18:14] but why do you want to use hugin oom Kilos+ [18:14] *? [18:14] kill the sheep, starve the family and pay the busfare [18:14] hehe [18:14] Kilos: we can help with the last one [18:14] i got lotsa pics i can play with [18:14] back [18:14] heh [18:14] there we go [18:14] some from early 1900's [18:14] Kilos: but is it pics of panorama's? [18:14] wb Symmetria [18:15] does it matter? [18:15] Kilos: yeah, hugin is only to stitch panorama shots [18:15] whats a panorama anyway [18:15] :P multiple shots of a scene to cover a greater area than what a single shot is capable of capturing [18:16] pic of someone with the world as a background [18:16] heh charlvn: [18:16] JUNOS aalston-dsl 12.1R3.5 JUNOS 12.1R3.5 #0: 2012-08-09 07:05:23 UTC builder@greteth:/volume/build/junos/12.1/release/12.1R3.5/obj-octeon/junos/bsd/kernels/JSRXNLE/kernel octeon [18:16] does that look familiar :) [18:16] oh my that sucks [18:16] more to the point: [18:16]