| smartboyhw | knome: Are you here? | 09:35 |
|---|---|---|
| ochosi | hey smartboyhw | 09:35 |
| ochosi | (i'm not knome though) | 09:35 |
| smartboyhw | ochosi: Hey | 09:35 |
| ochosi | just wanted to ask you 'bout lightdm greeter quickly | 09:36 |
| ochosi | there were discussions with folks from lubuntu on cooperating on the greeter and its design | 09:36 |
| ochosi | one guy created a wiki page with a few of the specifications | 09:36 |
| ochosi | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/frankbooth/lightdm-gtk-greeter | 09:36 |
| smartboyhw | ochosi: What do you mean? | 09:36 |
| smartboyhw | OK, looking at it now | 09:37 |
| ochosi | there are a few things i like about it, but others i rather dislike | 09:37 |
| smartboyhw | Ha, good sketch | 09:37 |
| ochosi | anyway, the main question was when approximately you would have time to work on it | 09:37 |
| ochosi | just to know when mockups etc should be in palce | 09:37 |
| ochosi | place | 09:37 |
| smartboyhw | OK. | 09:38 |
| ochosi | to get a plan, since UI freeze is pretty soon | 09:41 |
| smartboyhw | ochosi: Is it in a weel? | 09:41 |
| ochosi | and whatever we can get out the door before makes our lives easier | 09:41 |
| smartboyhw | *week | 09:41 |
| ochosi | yeah, approx | 09:41 |
| ochosi | i think thursday | 09:41 |
| ochosi | (off the top of my head) | 09:42 |
| smartboyhw | Hmm....That's a disaster. | 09:42 |
| ochosi | heh | 09:42 |
| ochosi | no worries | 09:42 |
| ochosi | we can file exceptions | 09:42 |
| smartboyhw | ochosi: :) | 09:42 |
| ochosi | what seems realistic for you | 09:42 |
| smartboyhw | ochosi: What do you mean? | 09:42 |
| ochosi | well i'm not sure what you discussed with mr_pouit, but i assumed you would work on implementing changes to the lightdm-gtk-greeter | 09:43 |
| smartboyhw | ochosi: :) | 09:44 |
| ochosi | soo? | 09:48 |
| smartboyhw | I think I'll work on it:) | 09:48 |
| ochosi | mkay | 09:48 |
| ochosi | timeframe? :) | 09:48 |
| Unit193 | mr_pouit: Put package too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Quantal/SettingsManagerApps | 09:50 |
| smartboyhw | ochosi: Hi, I'm back | 09:52 |
| ochosi | smartboyhw: okies | 09:53 |
| ochosi | actually i have to leave in 4mins or so | 09:53 |
| smartboyhw | :) | 09:53 |
| ochosi | so, what would be a realistic timeframe/plan for you? | 09:54 |
| ochosi | (or is it too early to say because you haven't looked at the code) | 09:54 |
| smartboyhw | Hmm, I'm getting the source code first:) | 09:54 |
| ochosi | sure sure | 09:55 |
| ochosi | not sure what you've worked with, but most requests will involve tinkering with the .ui file (aka gtkbuilder aka glade-successor) | 09:55 |
| smartboyhw | :) | 09:55 |
| ochosi | e.g. moving the computer-name from the login-box to the top panel | 09:56 |
| smartboyhw | OK | 09:57 |
| ochosi | ok, gotta go now | 09:58 |
| smartboyhw | Bye | 09:59 |
| knome | pleia2, i bolded those sections/subpages that i consider "checked out" | 12:48 |
| ochosi | knome: i'm considering to skip "Find unnecessary icons and remove" | 13:12 |
| ochosi | it's really the hardest part of iconing, to find unused ones | 13:12 |
| ochosi | you never know what icons are in use by what obscure app... | 13:12 |
| knome | yeah, feel free to mark that as POSTPONED | 13:12 |
| smartboyhw | Yo ochosi: How to edit the .ui file? | 13:12 |
| ochosi | unless we decide to just trim down the icon-theme to a more minimal state | 13:13 |
| ochosi | smartboyhw: install glade or with a text-editor | 13:13 |
| smartboyhw | OK | 13:13 |
| smartboyhw | ochosi: Working on it now:) | 13:18 |
| ochosi | smartboyhw: ok, good luck :) | 13:18 |
| smartboyhw | :) | 13:20 |
| smartboyhw | knome: If you are here, I want to tell you a fact: The 12.10 ubiquity in Xubuntu, it sucks... | 13:49 |
| knome | smartboyhw, justify | 13:49 |
| ochosi | it will get better :) | 13:49 |
| ochosi | right now it's a lot of black on black | 13:49 |
| smartboyhw | ochosi: I agree | 13:49 |
| ochosi | because greybird wasn't working right i think | 13:50 |
| knome | okay. in that case it doesn't "suck", it has a bug | 13:50 |
| smartboyhw | It;s full of black:( | 13:50 |
| smartboyhw | Well, it looks it sucks. Sorry for using a nonsense word, it did look like that.. | 13:51 |
| knome | one of the best qualities when filing bugs or problems is to know how to describe the problem | 13:51 |
| knome | "X isn't working" or "X sucks" is as helpful as nothing | 13:52 |
| smartboyhw | Sorry: So should I file a bug on Launchpad? | 13:52 |
| knome | probably not, since it's known, and people are working on it | 13:52 |
| smartboyhw | I apologise | 13:52 |
| smartboyhw | :) | 13:52 |
| knome | np, just trying to not waste anybody's time | 13:52 |
| elfy | talking of which - how to describe this one ... parole opens like this here http://imgur.com/8xTg1 | 13:54 |
| smartboyhw | Hi I am back. Ochosi, you still here? | 14:07 |
| knome | smartboyhw, is there a problem? | 14:07 |
| smartboyhw | I want to find ochosi. | 14:07 |
| knome | for what reason? | 14:08 |
| smartboyhw | knome: BTW, status report: Testing a Quantal build of Xubuntu now | 14:08 |
| knome | okay | 14:08 |
| smartboyhw | Anyway, I recalled he has left, Find | 14:08 |
| smartboyhw | *Fine | 14:08 |
| bluesabre | elfy, what's wrong with parole? That image looks spot-on. | 14:09 |
| elfy | really? | 14:09 |
| elfy | never used to look like that | 14:09 |
| bluesabre | Yeah, that's the new parole | 14:10 |
| bluesabre | 0.3.x | 14:10 |
| bluesabre | :) | 14:10 |
| elfy | oh wow LOL | 14:10 |
| elfy | I thought it was some graphic card glitch :) | 14:10 |
| bluesabre | lol | 14:10 |
| bluesabre | I think knome made that awesome background | 14:10 |
| bluesabre | or ochosi | 14:11 |
| bluesabre | One of those two | 14:11 |
| knome | i did | 14:11 |
| elfy | I almost reported a bug :) | 14:11 |
| elfy | this morning - then thought I'd wait till I asked someone how to describe it - glad I did | 14:12 |
| bluesabre | Glad I caught you | 14:12 |
| bluesabre | :D | 14:12 |
| elfy | lol | 14:12 |
| elfy | knome: now I know it's supposed to look like it - it's ok | 14:12 |
| knome | ;) | 14:13 |
| knome | we thought that was a cool idea | 14:13 |
| smartboyhw | OK, I need to add a bug to the ISO QA Tracker: VM does not reboot after installation:( | 14:13 |
| elfy | missed that meeting :) | 14:14 |
| knome | heh, that was at #shimmer i think | 14:14 |
| elfy | anyway - me wanders off again now - thanks for catching that bluesabre :) | 14:15 |
| elfy | cya all | 14:15 |
| knome | see you | 14:15 |
| smartboyhw | knome: Reported a pass for the Quantal Daily Build amd64 (but with a VM reboot bug) | 14:27 |
| knome | smartboyhw, ok, thanks. but please just report, no need to specifically tell me you did. | 14:27 |
| smartboyhw | :) | 14:28 |
| knome | pleia2, morning? :) | 20:15 |
| knome | mr_pouit, micahg: can you drop synaptic off of our seed? ta | 20:17 |
| pleia2 | knome: hello | 23:20 |
| knome | hai | 23:21 |
| knome | you have a few mins? | 23:21 |
| pleia2 | sure | 23:23 |
| knome | great! | 23:23 |
| knome | so | 23:23 |
| knome | * Remove (or archive) xubuntu-website, rename xubuntu-website-wordpress to replace | 23:23 |
| knome | thoughts? | 23:23 |
| knome | should we just do that? | 23:23 |
| pleia2 | I don't know precisely how to go about it, the never-delete-anything part of me sort of wants to keep the code around even though it's for drupal5 ;) | 23:24 |
| pleia2 | but I don't know how we could do that, if we could | 23:24 |
| knome | if we'd archive it, how would you like to go about it? | 23:24 |
| knome | new branch under the other website code? | 23:24 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 23:24 |
| knome | ok | 23:25 |
| knome | i suppose we can do that if we ask LP admins nicely enough | 23:25 |
| pleia2 | so pull it down, delete the project, move the other, and push it up as a new branch? | 23:25 |
| knome | yeah | 23:25 |
| * pleia2 nods | 23:25 | |
| knome | ok, good, i'll look at that at the beginning of next week | 23:25 |
| knome | then | 23:25 |
| knome | * Review ~xubuntu-docs (Is it technically required? Which access/permissions does it have since it's a subteam of ~ubuntu-doc?) | 23:25 |
| pleia2 | thanks | 23:25 |
| pleia2 | that one I don't know | 23:25 |
| knome | me neither | 23:25 |
| knome | do you know somebody who does? | 23:26 |
| knome | i tried shouting at #ubuntu-docs earlier, but no response | 23:26 |
| pleia2 | would also be worth figuring out exactly what we need to do to get a couple xubuntu folks access to upload our docbook stuff once it's done | 23:26 |
| pleia2 | I can ask on the list | 23:26 |
| pleia2 | phillw is good about replying to me | 23:26 |
| knome | though i think i have a better idea now who are the people we should accept to the team, even if that team had some access | 23:26 |
| * pleia2 nods | 23:27 | |
| knome | if you ask a bit more about it, let's get back to that when you've had replies | 23:28 |
| knome | another one: | 23:28 |
| knome | [lyz] Cleanup and review community wiki: INPROGRESS | 23:28 |
| knome | should we do that now? | 23:28 |
| pleia2 | I was working through it last night, have some comments, let me dig up | 23:29 |
| knome | got an email from elfy for improvements on making the xorg/help page better | 23:30 |
| knome | tbe, the forums part | 23:30 |
| pleia2 | oh yes, I saw that, that would be great | 23:30 |
| knome | i'll push the changes soon | 23:31 |
| pleia2 | I've edited the forums section a couple of times based on random feedback from people, more coherent feedback from a FC member would be win \o/ | 23:31 |
| knome | hehe | 23:31 |
| pleia2 | right, so I think we should mark everything for deletion (maybe english "Installing" can just link to Ubuntu installing docs | 23:31 |
| pleia2 | except https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompizConfiguration/Cube/And/Effects/Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu/Kubuntu/Edubuntu | 23:32 |
| pleia2 | which we should test | 23:32 |
| knome | there was some discussion about that already | 23:32 |
| knome | but i can't remember which channel | 23:32 |
| pleia2 | and we should talk about what to do with the XubuntuPanels page | 23:32 |
| knome | probably -offtopic | 23:32 |
| pleia2 | yeah, I said I'd look a bit deeper to make sure it's what we really wanted | 23:32 |
| pleia2 | I think XubuntuPanels is actually useful, and we would benefit from a community wiki of tips as people find them (so, not move to website) | 23:33 |
| knome | hmph. | 23:34 |
| knome | xubuntupanels was created for a factiod | 23:34 |
| knome | !panels | 23:34 |
| ubottu | To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel » | 23:34 |
| knome | !panels-#xubuntu | 23:34 |
| ubottu | Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ | 23:34 |
| knome | that | 23:34 |
| knome | it's not a "community-written" page | 23:34 |
| pleia2 | yeah, well that's good | 23:34 |
| pleia2 | ah, but it could be! | 23:34 |
| knome | that's to say i don't have much hopes of having many of those | 23:34 |
| pleia2 | well at least I know it exists now ;) I can help fix it too | 23:35 |
| knome | and either our rewritten offline documentation of the app-specific docs should make community-docs extinct ;) | 23:35 |
| pleia2 | I don't love the idea of just removing them all because we can, I like to have a few around so people see they can make more if they want | 23:36 |
| knome | do you know of the processes in the community wiki? | 23:36 |
| pleia2 | then maybe we can pull more into official docs | 23:36 |
| knome | would it be ok to just delete, not propose for deletion | 23:36 |
| pleia2 | some, only admins can delete pages for instance so they have a whole tagging system | 23:36 |
| knome | aha | 23:36 |
| pleia2 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tag | 23:37 |
| knome | ok, do we know who the admins are? | 23:37 |
| knome | so, leave XubuntuPanels and the reference on Compiz | 23:38 |
| knome | and propose everything else for deletion? | 23:38 |
| pleia2 | yeah, that's my assessment | 23:39 |
| pleia2 | there are a few wiki admins, you can email -doc list if you want them immediately attended to after tagging them | 23:39 |
| pleia2 | cprofitt, phillw | 23:39 |
| knome | okay | 23:39 |
| knome | i'm okay with those actions | 23:39 |
| knome | will you proceed with them? | 23:39 |
| pleia2 | alright cool, I'll get that done today | 23:39 |
| knome | great :) | 23:40 |
| knome | [lyz] Define target marketing audience: TODO | 23:40 |
| knome | what about that? :) | 23:40 |
| pleia2 | I can finish that today too, I actually did it once and then the wiki didn't save my edits and I have been too upset for a month to redo it :) | 23:41 |
| knome | aww | 23:41 |
| knome | new wallpaper before UIF | 23:43 |
| knome | bleh | 23:43 |
| knome | :) | 23:43 |
| pleia2 | :D | 23:44 |
| knome | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-flavor-xubuntu.html | 23:44 |
| knome | burndown looks better though | 23:44 |
| knome | we've been keeping the reds below the mainline | 23:44 |
| pleia2 | :) | 23:44 |
| pleia2 | gold stars all around! | 23:44 |
| knome | hehe | 23:45 |
| knome | so, is there something else we can make happen today? :P | 23:47 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 23:48 |
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