[09:35] knome: Are you here? [09:35] hey smartboyhw [09:35] (i'm not knome though) [09:35] ochosi: Hey [09:36] just wanted to ask you 'bout lightdm greeter quickly [09:36] there were discussions with folks from lubuntu on cooperating on the greeter and its design [09:36] one guy created a wiki page with a few of the specifications [09:36] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/frankbooth/lightdm-gtk-greeter [09:36] ochosi: What do you mean? [09:37] OK, looking at it now [09:37] there are a few things i like about it, but others i rather dislike [09:37] Ha, good sketch [09:37] anyway, the main question was when approximately you would have time to work on it [09:37] just to know when mockups etc should be in palce [09:37] place [09:38] OK. [09:41] to get a plan, since UI freeze is pretty soon [09:41] ochosi: Is it in a weel? [09:41] and whatever we can get out the door before makes our lives easier [09:41] *week [09:41] yeah, approx [09:41] i think thursday [09:42] (off the top of my head) [09:42] Hmm....That's a disaster. [09:42] heh [09:42] no worries [09:42] we can file exceptions [09:42] ochosi: :) [09:42] what seems realistic for you [09:42] ochosi: What do you mean? [09:43] well i'm not sure what you discussed with mr_pouit, but i assumed you would work on implementing changes to the lightdm-gtk-greeter [09:44] ochosi: :) [09:48] soo? [09:48] I think I'll work on it:) [09:48] mkay [09:48] timeframe? :) [09:50] mr_pouit: Put package too https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Quantal/SettingsManagerApps [09:52] ochosi: Hi, I'm back [09:53] smartboyhw: okies [09:53] actually i have to leave in 4mins or so [09:53] :) [09:54] so, what would be a realistic timeframe/plan for you? [09:54] (or is it too early to say because you haven't looked at the code) [09:54] Hmm, I'm getting the source code first:) [09:55] sure sure [09:55] not sure what you've worked with, but most requests will involve tinkering with the .ui file (aka gtkbuilder aka glade-successor) [09:55] :) [09:56] e.g. moving the computer-name from the login-box to the top panel [09:57] OK [09:58] ok, gotta go now [09:59] Bye [12:48] pleia2, i bolded those sections/subpages that i consider "checked out" [13:12] knome: i'm considering to skip "Find unnecessary icons and remove" [13:12] it's really the hardest part of iconing, to find unused ones [13:12] you never know what icons are in use by what obscure app... [13:12] yeah, feel free to mark that as POSTPONED [13:12] Yo ochosi: How to edit the .ui file? [13:13] unless we decide to just trim down the icon-theme to a more minimal state [13:13] smartboyhw: install glade or with a text-editor [13:13] OK [13:18] ochosi: Working on it now:) [13:18] smartboyhw: ok, good luck :) [13:20] :) [13:49] knome: If you are here, I want to tell you a fact: The 12.10 ubiquity in Xubuntu, it sucks... [13:49] smartboyhw, justify [13:49] it will get better :) [13:49] right now it's a lot of black on black [13:49] ochosi: I agree [13:50] because greybird wasn't working right i think [13:50] okay. in that case it doesn't "suck", it has a bug [13:50] It;s full of black:( [13:51] Well, it looks it sucks. Sorry for using a nonsense word, it did look like that.. [13:51] one of the best qualities when filing bugs or problems is to know how to describe the problem [13:52] "X isn't working" or "X sucks" is as helpful as nothing [13:52] Sorry: So should I file a bug on Launchpad? [13:52] probably not, since it's known, and people are working on it [13:52] I apologise [13:52] :) [13:52] np, just trying to not waste anybody's time [13:54] talking of which - how to describe this one ... parole opens like this here http://imgur.com/8xTg1 [14:07] Hi I am back. Ochosi, you still here? [14:07] smartboyhw, is there a problem? [14:07] I want to find ochosi. [14:08] for what reason? [14:08] knome: BTW, status report: Testing a Quantal build of Xubuntu now [14:08] okay [14:08] Anyway, I recalled he has left, Find [14:08] *Fine [14:09] elfy, what's wrong with parole? That image looks spot-on. [14:09] really? [14:09] never used to look like that [14:10] Yeah, that's the new parole [14:10] 0.3.x [14:10] :) [14:10] oh wow LOL [14:10] I thought it was some graphic card glitch :) [14:10] lol [14:10] I think knome made that awesome background [14:11] or ochosi [14:11] One of those two [14:11] i did [14:11] I almost reported a bug :) [14:12] this morning - then thought I'd wait till I asked someone how to describe it - glad I did [14:12] Glad I caught you [14:12] :D [14:12] lol [14:12] knome: now I know it's supposed to look like it - it's ok [14:13] ;) [14:13] we thought that was a cool idea [14:13] OK, I need to add a bug to the ISO QA Tracker: VM does not reboot after installation:( [14:14] missed that meeting :) [14:14] heh, that was at #shimmer i think [14:15] anyway - me wanders off again now - thanks for catching that bluesabre :) [14:15] cya all [14:15] see you [14:27] knome: Reported a pass for the Quantal Daily Build amd64 (but with a VM reboot bug) [14:27] smartboyhw, ok, thanks. but please just report, no need to specifically tell me you did. [14:28] :) [20:15] pleia2, morning? :) [20:17] mr_pouit, micahg: can you drop synaptic off of our seed? ta [23:20] knome: hello [23:21] hai [23:21] you have a few mins? [23:23] sure [23:23] great! [23:23] so [23:23] * Remove (or archive) xubuntu-website, rename xubuntu-website-wordpress to replace [23:23] thoughts? [23:23] should we just do that? [23:24] I don't know precisely how to go about it, the never-delete-anything part of me sort of wants to keep the code around even though it's for drupal5 ;) [23:24] but I don't know how we could do that, if we could [23:24] if we'd archive it, how would you like to go about it? [23:24] new branch under the other website code? [23:24] yeah [23:25] ok [23:25] i suppose we can do that if we ask LP admins nicely enough [23:25] so pull it down, delete the project, move the other, and push it up as a new branch? [23:25] yeah [23:25] * pleia2 nods [23:25] ok, good, i'll look at that at the beginning of next week [23:25] then [23:25] * Review ~xubuntu-docs (Is it technically required? Which access/permissions does it have since it's a subteam of ~ubuntu-doc?) [23:25] thanks [23:25] that one I don't know [23:25] me neither [23:26] do you know somebody who does? [23:26] i tried shouting at #ubuntu-docs earlier, but no response [23:26] would also be worth figuring out exactly what we need to do to get a couple xubuntu folks access to upload our docbook stuff once it's done [23:26] I can ask on the list [23:26] phillw is good about replying to me [23:26] though i think i have a better idea now who are the people we should accept to the team, even if that team had some access [23:27] * pleia2 nods [23:28] if you ask a bit more about it, let's get back to that when you've had replies [23:28] another one: [23:28] [lyz] Cleanup and review community wiki: INPROGRESS [23:28] should we do that now? [23:29] I was working through it last night, have some comments, let me dig up [23:30] got an email from elfy for improvements on making the xorg/help page better [23:30] tbe, the forums part [23:30] oh yes, I saw that, that would be great [23:31] i'll push the changes soon [23:31] I've edited the forums section a couple of times based on random feedback from people, more coherent feedback from a FC member would be win \o/ [23:31] hehe [23:31] right, so I think we should mark everything for deletion (maybe english "Installing" can just link to Ubuntu installing docs [23:32] except https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompizConfiguration/Cube/And/Effects/Ubuntu/Xubuntu/Lubuntu/Kubuntu/Edubuntu [23:32] which we should test [23:32] there was some discussion about that already [23:32] but i can't remember which channel [23:32] and we should talk about what to do with the XubuntuPanels page [23:32] probably -offtopic [23:32] yeah, I said I'd look a bit deeper to make sure it's what we really wanted [23:33] I think XubuntuPanels is actually useful, and we would benefit from a community wiki of tips as people find them (so, not move to website) [23:34] hmph. [23:34] xubuntupanels was created for a factiod [23:34] !panels [23:34] To reset the GNOME panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel » [23:34] !panels-#xubuntu [23:34] Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [23:34] that [23:34] it's not a "community-written" page [23:34] yeah, well that's good [23:34] ah, but it could be! [23:34] that's to say i don't have much hopes of having many of those [23:35] well at least I know it exists now ;) I can help fix it too [23:35] and either our rewritten offline documentation of the app-specific docs should make community-docs extinct ;) [23:36] I don't love the idea of just removing them all because we can, I like to have a few around so people see they can make more if they want [23:36] do you know of the processes in the community wiki? [23:36] then maybe we can pull more into official docs [23:36] would it be ok to just delete, not propose for deletion [23:36] some, only admins can delete pages for instance so they have a whole tagging system [23:36] aha [23:37] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tag [23:37] ok, do we know who the admins are? [23:38] so, leave XubuntuPanels and the reference on Compiz [23:38] and propose everything else for deletion? [23:39] yeah, that's my assessment [23:39] there are a few wiki admins, you can email -doc list if you want them immediately attended to after tagging them [23:39] cprofitt, phillw [23:39] okay [23:39] i'm okay with those actions [23:39] will you proceed with them? [23:39] alright cool, I'll get that done today [23:40] great :) [23:40] [lyz] Define target marketing audience: TODO [23:40] what about that? :) [23:41] I can finish that today too, I actually did it once and then the wiki didn't save my edits and I have been too upset for a month to redo it :) [23:41] aww [23:43] new wallpaper before UIF [23:43] bleh [23:43] :) [23:44] :D [23:44] http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-flavor-xubuntu.html [23:44] burndown looks better though [23:44] we've been keeping the reds below the mainline [23:44] :) [23:44] gold stars all around! [23:45] hehe [23:47] so, is there something else we can make happen today? :P [23:48] hehe