[00:08] <Jak_Atackka> Okay, apparently I can fix the missing device.map problem with the command grub-mkdevicemap, but every time I try to run it the command isn't found
[00:33] <SIR_Taco> Jak_Atackka: which version of grub do you have?
[00:57] <Jak_Atackka> Grub 2
[00:58] <SIR_Taco> Jak_Atackka: what does 'grub-setup --version' say?
[00:59] <Jak_Atackka> Just a sec
[01:00] <Jak_Atackka> grub-setup: command not found
[01:01] <sahko> hi, is kate still the default text editor in kubuntu?
[01:02] <SIR_Taco> Jak_Atackka: Are you sure you have Grub2 installed? 'sudo apt-get install grub2'
[01:02] <SIR_Taco> sahko: yes
[01:02] <sahko> is there any reason its not kwrite?
[01:03] <Jak_Atackka> SIR_Taco: Yep.
[01:04] <SIR_Taco> sahko: because kwrite can apply formatting... which for regular text files (like configuration files, code files, etc.) doesn't work
[01:05] <sahko> im not sure what you mean. kwrite uses katepart
[01:06] <sahko> kubuntu doesnt primarily target coders does it?
[01:07] <SIR_Taco> sahko: when you say text editor... do you mean word processor?
[01:08] <sahko> no i mean a notepad replacement for my mom. not a notepad++ replacement for her
[01:09] <SIR_Taco> Jak_Atackka: what about: 'grub --version' ?
[01:09] <Jak_Atackka> command not found
[01:10] <sahko> SIR_Taco: kate is part of the sdk module for a reason. its for programmers, kwrite is in base for a reason. its for everyone
[01:10] <Jak_Atackka> However, when I install it, it says that it's downloading grub-efi-x86_64-2.00-1
[01:11] <Trent> Hello, i'm having difficulties. I'm trying to make Kubuntu run faster, and I installed a package called "kde-low-fat-settings" but i'm not sure it's working.
[01:11] <SIR_Taco> sahko: Kate is a basic 'notepad' like program with highlighting for some programming languages/usages... Kwrite is more along the lines of being a replacement for MS Word
[01:11] <Trent> Also which is the best session to use? Xubuntu or Xfce?
[01:12] <SIR_Taco> Jak_Atackka: that's hopeful
[01:12] <sahko> SIR_Taco: ms word = calligra words. are you kidding me?
[01:13] <SIR_Taco> anyway..... if you want a notepad replacement in KDE, kate is the stock replacement.
[01:13] <sahko> SIR_Taco: http://userbase.kde.org/Kate vs. http://userbase.kde.org/KWrite
[01:14] <sahko> SIR_Taco: its not. thats my point
[01:14] <sahko> its too advanced and when you first start it it looks weird to people
[01:15] <Trent> Anyone help?
[01:15] <SIR_Taco> sahko: you can turn off most of the advanced stuff
[01:16] <Jak_Atackka> I've been trying to install Arch Linux for 6 days, and not once have I been able to boot it. I'm giving up and trying a different Linux distro
[01:16] <SIR_Taco> Trent: I've never heard of that package... if you want a light weight desktop, you can remove kubuntu-desktop and install lubuntu-desktop from the command line
[01:16] <SIR_Taco> or xubuntu-desktop
[01:17] <Trent> SIR_Taco, I have xubuntu-desktop.
[01:17] <Trent> I believe I do, when I go to login I have "xfce session or kubuntu session"
[01:17] <SIR_Taco> Trent: then what are you trying to accomplish exactly?
[01:18] <Trent> I'm following this guide here.
[01:18] <Trent> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1889034
[01:18] <Trent> I can't find the System Settings/Application Apperance
[01:19] <sahko> meh
[01:20] <SIR_Taco> another happy customer I suppose
[01:21] <Trent> SIR_Taco, it appears my version of Kubuntu doesn't have KDE installed?
[01:21] <Trent> I went into the package manager and typed in "kde-desktop" and it didn't find anything.
[01:21] <SIR_Taco> Trent: that's why you can't follow that thread... it's for KDE
[01:22] <Trent> Why doesn't Kubuntu come with KDE installed O______O
[01:22] <SIR_Taco> Trent: kubuntu-desktop is the package
[01:22] <Trent> Oh! :P
[01:22] <SIR_Taco> only remove it if you don't wish to use KDE
[01:24] <Trent> SIR_Taco, I want to be able to use that tutorial. So I need to install the package "kde-plasma-desktop"?
[01:24] <SIR_Taco> Trent: likely before you login you can select either Xfce or KDE
[01:25] <Trent> SIR_Taco, whenever I login I have the option of Xubuntu or Xfce not KDE
[01:25] <SIR_Taco> if you haven't removed KDE from your Kubuntu install
[01:25] <Trent> I don't believe I have =\
[01:25] <Trent> I have so much trouble with Linux I swear X(
[01:26] <SIR_Taco> haha
[01:26] <SIR_Taco> Trent: what are you trying to accomplish though?
[01:27] <Trent> Make my crappy laptop faster :P
[01:27] <Trent> And it sppears KDE desktop resembles Windows a bit more so it'd make it more user friendly for me.
[01:27] <killer> hi....how do i reduce memory consumption in kde .......i have disabled desktop effects but still by default kde uses 550 MB of ram
[01:28] <Trent> killer, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1889034
[01:28] <Trent> Try that?
[01:29] <SIR_Taco> Trent: give me a minute to run through the thread you provided and I'll let you know what will apply to your current install
[01:29] <Trent> SIR_Taco, i'm going to install the KDE-plasma-desktop and try that :)
[01:30] <SIR_Taco> Trent: it's going to be worse than what you have on your 'old' laptop I would guess
[01:30] <Trent> Even after I "tweak" it?
[01:30] <Trent> Using that tutorial ofc.
[01:31] <SIR_Taco> Xfce is a good DE for older hardware. I doubt, tweaking the current KDE will give you better performance
[01:32] <Trent> Oh :(
[01:32] <SIR_Taco> Trent: of the list, with Xfce installed... #3 is a possibility.... but it could also make your system unstable (likely not, but possibly)
[01:32] <Trent> QUICK question SIR_Taco , isn't "Kubuntu" SUPPOSE to come with KDE installed?
[01:32] <SIR_Taco> Trent: yes
[01:33] <SIR_Taco> killer: how much ram do you have on your system?
[01:33] <Trent> SIR_Taco, any idea WHY it doesn't have KDE installed then? O_O
[01:34] <SIR_Taco> Trent: it should... do you know what you use to login? KDM?
[01:34] <Trent> You mean whenever I type in my password?
[01:35] <killer> SIR_Taco : 1.8 Gb of ram
[01:38] <SIR_Taco> Trent: yes, when you type your password. Is there a pull-down menu or something like that where it probably says "XFce" and can you select another desktop environment from there like "KDE" or "Plasma-Desktop"?
[01:38] <Trent> SIR_Taco, yes but it only shoes Xfce & Xubuntu
[01:39] <SIR_Taco> killer: If it isn't using all of your RAM, you shouldn't notice any performance problems. And just because it's reserving X amount of RAM, doesn't mean it's using it all
[01:40] <SIR_Taco> Trent: where you type your password?
[01:40] <Trent> Yes
[01:42] <killer> SIR_Taco : but why does my system gui's freeze after 4-5 minutes ...
[01:44] <SIR_Taco> Trent: if you type "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" in a terminal (like konsole) does it say you can install it or is it already installed?
[01:45] <Trent> SIR_Taco, i'm currently installing the package "kde-plasma-desktop"
[01:46] <SIR_Taco> killer: good question. When the gui freezes, can you switch to a terminal? like: CTRL-ALT-F1 ?
[01:48] <pepperjack> ive had some problems with nepomuk indexing and taking up all my cpu... so i disabled indexing.  you sure it's compeltely frozen? it never comes back?
[01:48] <Trent> I'm going to go, and finish this install
[01:49] <SIR_Taco> Trent: good luck, let us know how it goes
[01:49] <Trent> Thank you for your help SIR_Taco I think later tonight i'll just download the newest version of Kubuntu and see if it fixs it.
[01:49] <Trent> I'm on 11.03
[01:49] <Trent> 11.04*
[01:49] <SIR_Taco> Trent: 12.04 is the current
[01:50] <Trent> SIR_Taco, I think I got a bad install
[01:51] <pepperjack> anyone here tried chakra and compared it to kubuntu?  ive tried their livecd and it looks ok but the fact they forked from arch makes me nervous
[01:51] <pepperjack> kubuntu i know I'll have packages for stuff...
[01:53] <SIR_Taco> pepperjack: no, sorry... I was reading about it the other day and it didn't seem like a bad idea
[02:04] <pemm78> hello
[02:04] <SIR_Taco> hello pemm78
[02:05] <pemm78> como va?
[02:06] <pemm78> SIR_Taco de donde eres?
[02:08] <SIR_Taco> I really need to remember the language ! commands around here
[02:12] <SIR_Taco> can I have a beer now?
[02:39] <SIR_Taco> I must say that this channel is less active than a few years ago... I would like to think that is because there's less problems with Kubuntu
[03:23] <shadeslayer> SIR_Taco: heh, likewise :)
[03:26] <SIR_Taco> shadeslayer: I'm sure it's the case :)
[03:27] <shadeslayer> :)
[04:57] <unheeding> in input devices, my touchpad is listed as not having a right mouse button
[04:58] <unheeding> but under Windows, it does have a right mouse button
[04:58] <unheeding> is there a way to fix this?
[05:17] <a2f> Hi, having a problem with KDE where the windows pull apart randomly as if it were GNOME3 and I had moved my mouse to the upper-left corner of the screen. Anyone seen this behavior? How can I disable it?
[05:36] <killer_> how do i enable touchpad click in kde
[05:37] <unheeding> how is babby formed
[07:56] <[1]nezumi> Hello
[07:57] <[1]nezumi> Anyone could give ma a little help on kubuntu live cd? Just a short question really
[08:01] <[1]nezumi> anyone? I know noobies are bit annoying but.. dont really know where to ask and google shows me threads from years back
[08:03] <azbarcea> [1]nezumi: what's the problem?
[08:05] <[1]nezumi> I guess I just found a solution but didnt tested it yet - live cd is getting stuck basically
[08:06] <[1]nezumi> it loads up that Install/Memtest/Check CD screen
[08:06] <[1]nezumi> then I choose start and it loads up for a while and then just stops on black screen that flashes periodically
[08:07] <[1]nezumi> Thats latest kubuntu 64 bits
[08:08] <[1]nezumi> since I have never tried linux for real I am running circles and googling here and there
[08:09] <[1]nezumi> supposedly adding 'b43.blacklist=yes' to the boot options may help
[08:09] <[1]nezumi> well... whatever that does - let me tried it
[08:11] <[1]nezumi> *try .. if will not then I will surely bug you all again ;)
[08:30] <trent> Hello, can someone tell me why whenever I go to drag my Skype icon to my desktop it shows it as a "configuration file" instead?
[09:14] <rooneyai> hi  all
[10:14] <user> what this
[10:14] <user> hallo
[10:14] <user> every bodythere
[11:14] <peter1> I cannot activate my third Monitor under Linux Mint 13 Mate. Who can help me. I prefer german language because my English is not so good
[11:15] <markit> hi, I've downloade the 12.04.1 iso 32 bit desktop, but is 703MB, and my cd are of 702... is it a problem of the brand of my cd (TDK) or this image is TOO big to be burned into normal CD?
[11:16] <markit> or there is a tip I'm not aware of? (using k3b to burn, of course ;))
[11:25] <shadeslayer> peter1: please ask in the Mint support channel
[11:25] <shadeslayer> wherever that is ....
[11:25] <shadeslayer> markit: hm ... I don't think we can help it if the CD is 1 MB too small
[11:27] <afief> Are the repositories down or something? trying to install something get's stuck on "connecting to archive.ubuntu.com
[11:38] <shadeslayer> afief: works fine for me : 64 bytes from danava.canonical.com (91.189.92.190): icmp_req=1 ttl=52 time=262 ms
[11:46] <markit> mm  64 bit is 702MB, I think they did some mistake in packaging/preparing the 32 bit iso
[11:47] <AtoxHybrid> hiya, for some reason white (and very light grey) fonts in google chrome look very fuzzy since today. Black and pretty much every other color is fine. anybody knows what caused this and how to fix it?
[11:47] <AtoxHybrid> kubuntu 12.04 btw
[11:54] <shadeslayer> markit: or maybe the libs on the 32 bit ISO are a wee bit bigger ;)
[12:19] <markit> shadeslayer: I've no idea,but without a warning a lot of people will be lost/upset
[12:19] <markit> and sure they want to have an image that you can fit in a cd
[12:20] <markit> I'll have a look if I have some cd of different brand and how it behaves
[12:20] <shadeslayer> I will try and figure out what can be done tomorrow :)
[12:29] <pamaverk> Hi! I can translate the website www.kubuntu.org in Italian if you want. Are you interested?
[12:42] <shadeslayer> pamaverk: could you email the Kubuntu Devel team?
[12:42] <shadeslayer> pamaverk: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
[12:48] <BluesKaj> HI all
[13:09] <markit> shadeslayer: yes, please do :)
[13:40] <|ludste|> selbe Frage wie im #kubuntu; wie bekomm ich die Meldung "Distributionsaktualisierung verfügbar precise 12.04.1  ..." weg?
[13:42] <subz3r0> gnome ftw! :D
[13:44] <|ludste|> mmh, gnome ftw was heist das?
[13:45] <tsimpson> !de
[13:46] <subz3r0> for the win
[13:46] <|ludste|> ok
[13:48] <|ludste|> I was not shure, that this is the internatiom channel, byp
[14:33] <Roey> hello
[14:34] <Roey> anyone here using a Wacom tablet?  I have this issue in building the driver:  http://pastebin.com/MMxHtJE8
[15:00] <bobweaver> Is there a Kubuntu dev channel ?
[15:00] <DarthFrog> #kubuntu-devel
[15:00] <bobweaver> thanks Darkwing
[15:00] <bobweaver> er tab compleation
[15:01] <bobweaver> DarthFrog, *
[15:01] <DarthFrog> You're welcome.
[15:02] <bobweaver> I think that I am going to be a great person to have in your all's corner
[15:02] <bobweaver> I am a bamf qt/qml dev
[15:02] <DarthFrog> Well, I'm sure the devs will welcome someone who can contribute.
[15:03] <bobweaver> some of my qt/qml work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMgQpS8F6_o
[15:04] <sithlord48> bobweaver:  you should look in to helping kde that will benifit more people then just kubuntu users.
[15:05] <bobweaver> yeah where do I go for that ?
[15:05] <sithlord48> iirc kde-dev or www.kde.org should point you in the right direction
[15:05] <bobweaver> are all kde user star wars fans :)
[15:05] <bobweaver> thanks sithlord48
[15:05] <sithlord48> no just the cool ones :P
[15:05] <bobweaver> :D
[15:05] <DarthFrog> Isn't everyone? :-)
[15:06] <bobweaver> cool stuff all
[15:06] <sithlord48> you can make qml widgets  for use on the plasma desktop ..
[15:06] <sithlord48> i need to learn qml i can do qt w/ c++ just fine
[15:08]  * bobweaver breaks out qtcreator and says I'm back baby sorry I left you 
[15:18] <bobweaver> Am I building the right thing ?  Build files have been written to: /home/ME/Desktop/kde-workspace-4.9.0-build
[15:20] <bobweaver> yeah this is the right thing
[15:24] <bobweaver> Wait kde can handle glsl ! this is Flippen Awesome !!
[15:36] <bobweaver> I guess the first thing that I am going to do is to make another declaritve view like desktop notepad but this will be tv  or a small standalone kde shell
[16:13] <bobweaver> Yeah here we go  http://imagebin.org/225930
[19:06] <apparle> wassup guys
[19:07] <unheeding> just KDE-ing it up
[19:07] <apparle> guys, is there any issue with Kopete not connecting to gtalk?
[19:07] <apparle> I remember it working 2 versions back
[19:28] <phunyguy> apparle: works fine for me.
[19:29] <apparle> phunyguy: 12.04 right
[19:29] <apparle> ?
[19:29] <phunyguy> apparle: just set it up as Jabber
[19:29] <phunyguy> yeah
[19:29] <apparle> what are the server settings you are using
[19:29] <apparle> I ticked, all three and then put server as talk.google.com and port as 5223
[19:30] <phunyguy> connection tab?
[19:30] <phunyguy> only thing I have checked is Allow plain text
[19:30] <phunyguy> and merge all messages
[19:30] <phunyguy> (which doesnt matter)
[19:31] <apparle> It just started working after the update I did
[19:31] <apparle> :)
[19:31] <phunyguy> sweet.
[19:31] <apparle> I guess it was some problem specific to a version
[19:33] <jmut> hi. I cannot access with smb:\\myip the windows 7 share folder. anyone else having such problem. I didn't need such access for quite a while but I assume problem in some distro upgrade?
[20:00] <apparle> how to enable automatic metacontact creation in kopete
[20:29] <andrewx> Anyone aware of that annoying behavior in Dolphin, like after copying files, message @ bottom reads "successfully copied", is there any way to CLEAR OUT that message, so you can see how many files you have, etc?
[20:43] <andrewx> anyone? hello? this thing on? :-)
[20:44] <SeH> andrewx :)
[20:46] <andrewx> Be nice to know if there were a way to clear messages that appear bottom of Dolphin (10.x & above of Kubuntu)
[21:13] <aguitel> i installed kubuntu but in the boot appears stranges lines ,is this normal ?
[21:14] <BarkingFish> aguitel, where in the boot?
[21:14] <BarkingFish> on the selection of what you want to load, or in somewhere else during it?
[21:14] <aguitel> BarkingFish, later when i choose kubuntu in grub
[21:15] <BarkingFish> so what do you mean by strange lines?
[21:15] <BarkingFish> do they go across the screen, or block what you want to see, or what?
[21:15] <aguitel> vertical lines whites and blacks
[21:16] <aguitel> across the screen
[21:16] <BarkingFish> that sounds like the graphics mode is wrong then.  Unfortunately, I don't know how to correct that.
[21:16] <BarkingFish> hold on one moment, I will look at something for you.
[21:16] <aguitel> ok
[21:19] <BarkingFish> i will be back in a minute :)
[21:19] <aguitel> ok
[21:22] <HAMKoot> aguitel, that is a common issue, changing videomode. after these lines, kubuntu does appear right?
[21:22] <aguitel> HAMKoot, ,i am using nvidia ,how change videomode?
[21:23] <BarkingFish> HAMKoot, I was thinking of switching aguitel down to a text only boot, rather than a graphic one with splash - I did it myself, but can't recall how :)
[21:23] <HAMKoot> no, those lines appear on booting Kubuntu. does the screen turn right to inlog/desktop ?
[21:24] <aguitel> HAMKoot, ,yes
[21:24] <Lynoure> Seems in last couple of days my webcams stopped working right
[21:25] <Lynoure> So image in cheese flickers, and in skype I either see the other person or they see me
[21:25] <HAMKoot> here too, using closed source nvidia driver didn't solve it. i read a lot about this glitch.
[21:25] <Lynoure> and this happens both with my Logitech webcam and the HP build-in one.
[21:28] <aguitel> anyway to install amsn ?
[21:44] <Lynoure> If someone gets ideas for my problem, could you please pm me? I'm off to sleep and those messages get stashed in a more readable way than hours of channel scroll
[22:02] <jimi_> After using HDMI out, the only options I have for my video card are 800x600 and 1024x780... i used to have a lot more than this...
[22:39] <BarkingFish> Anyone free please? I need some help. Not sure what went wrong - I was just looking at a picture on imgur.com, when my display corrupted, and my whole xsession died - couldn't even get to a terminal.  I had to reboot to kick the machine back into life.
[22:48] <BarkingFish> I've checked all my logs over with the system log viewer, xsession, dmesg / kernel messages, xorg logs, the lot, can't see anything wrong whatsoever. Could it possibly be hardware failure on my graphics device?
[22:50] <Avihay> BarkingFish: you need to supply more info. anyway, take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key, you'd want Alt+PrintScreen+{s,u,b}, it will tell the kernel (if it's still alive) to sinc, unmount the drives and reboot the computer, that way your log files have a good chance of having the issue written to them before the reboot
[22:50] <BarkingFish> Avihay, that was how I rebooted - I went through REISUB to get restarted
[22:51] <BarkingFish> but my log files show no record of anything going wrong. All I have is "Information", no warnings or errors
[22:51] <BarkingFish> If it will help, I can link you to the picture that caused this.  Nobody else seems to have had this problem, it's up on imgur, and linked from reddit.com
[22:52] <Avihay> are you sure you went over the previous logs and not the current logs? (sounds like you are using ksyslog )
[22:52] <BarkingFish> http://imgur.com/DMcLl is the picture that caused it.
[22:52] <BarkingFish> And yes, I went over everything.
[22:53] <Avihay> well, I bet it has nothing to do with the specific picture, and you can open it freely, I can tell you you ain't missing much though
[22:55] <BarkingFish> Yeah, i saw it briefly, Avihay - it was while I was looking at it that the display corrupted
[22:56] <BarkingFish> the only entry I have in my log is from right before I had to reboot, and this is in the SystemLog
[22:56] <BarkingFish> 26/08/2012 23:30:12	Hunter96-Watchman90	kdm[993]	X server for display :0 terminated unexpectedly
[22:56] <BarkingFish> yet the xserver log doesn't mention it at all
[22:58] <Avihay> well, you should have started with that, I guess, pastebin your logs around, maybe someone will spot something you didn't. maybe xorg crashed, and restarted with a new log file and you should have looked at xorg.2 too
[22:59] <dbc254> kmail deletes instead of sending to trash. Is this fixed yet?
[23:02] <BarkingFish> dbc254, it doesn't here. If I click "move to Wastebin" at the top, it moves to the wastebin.
[23:02] <BarkingFish> What version of kmail / kde are you using and on what version of kubuntu?
[23:03] <dbc254> 12.04 Kunbuntu AMD64
[23:03] <dbc254> kmail? latest-n-greatest I thought. . .
[23:03] <dbc254> 4.8.4 on Kmail
[23:03] <BarkingFish> ok
[23:05] <dbc254> older version didn't do that. Hit delete and it would put selected items in "trash"
[23:05] <dbc254> have to be REAL careful now, as delete means GONE!
[23:06] <BarkingFish> not for me, again - if I click on a mail, and press my delete button on my keyboard, it goes to the trashcan
[23:07] <BarkingFish> i have no idea what could be wrong your end :)  the only difference between us is I'm on an i386 install, and you're on a 64 bit install
[23:12] <dbc254> think a reinstall is worth a shot?
[23:12] <BarkingFish> I wouldn't like to say - maybe you could reinstall kmail, which I think is part of a larger package of stuff.
[23:13] <BarkingFish> It's possible something's busted, but I couldn't rightly say what.
[23:13] <BarkingFish> I'll be back in a few moments, gotta go get some fresh air.
[23:32] <noctiphile> Can anybody help with a disk recognition problem after an update was done?
[23:37] <BarkingFish> noctiphile, sure - i can try.
[23:37] <BarkingFish> what is the problem you're having?
[23:38] <noctiphile> Thanks.  at the beginning of loading after booting, it says "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present."  Then there are options to wait, skip mounting, or go to a root prompt.
[23:41] <BarkingFish> one mo phone call
[23:53] <BarkingFish> sorry about that
[23:53] <BarkingFish> Right - so you have the three options, which one have you been doing up to now?
[23:55] <BarkingFish> noctiphile ^^
[23:55] <noctiphile> I tried all three.
[23:55] <noctiphile> skipping leads to other problems
[23:56] <BarkingFish> ok, what happens if you skip?
[23:56] <noctiphile> same message, but /tmp instead of /
[23:56] <BarkingFish> hm.
[23:56] <BarkingFish> what happens if you wait?
[23:57] <noctiphile> and says "Skipping / at user request"
[23:57] <noctiphile> nothing
[23:57] <BarkingFish> and if you try to drop to a root prompt?
[23:57] <noctiphile> it goes to prompt ok
[23:57] <BarkingFish> right.  If you can get into a root prompt, I can certainly help you :)
[23:58] <BarkingFish> one sec.
[23:58] <noctiphile> ok, let me get there.  I might have to reboot.
[23:58] <BarkingFish> what are you using at the moment? do you have a second PC?