[00:06] <vangelas> Firefox 14 (64 bit) will not play flash videos on sites such bbc and youtube. Flash plugin is installed but it seems firefox cannot read it. Any ideas?
[02:00]  * CompyTheInsane drops off a box of 100 pies
[03:19] <Samizdat> I've been have very sketchy wireless with 12.04.  It seems fine for a bit, then drops to nothing.  I've tried a few different solutions, but nothing seems to stick.
[03:20] <holstein> Samizdat: feel free and share some failed solutions so we dont repeat the issue.. i would suggest trying the windows driver with ndisgtk
[03:21] <Samizdat> Well, I've tried using opendns
[03:21] <holstein> Samizdat: cool.. opendns will have nothing to do with your wireless
[03:21] <Samizdat> This fix seemed to work for a bit, then died: http://www.hitxp.com/articles/software/ubuntu-fix-slow-wireless-internet-connection-speed-upgrading-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[03:21] <Samizdat> Well, I keep a connection, but can't resolve dns.
[03:22] <Samizdat> What's the window's driver fix?
[03:22] <holstein> Samizdat: you can try the windows driver, though i dont think we are talking abou the same thing
[03:22] <lagreca> hi, folks! nautilus won't show thumbnails. What can I do to fix it?
[03:22] <holstein> what you are describing sounds unrelated to the computer
[03:23] <lagreca> I've already installed thumbnailers.
[03:24] <Samizdat> I went through it all with my provider.  I set a windows pc next to my linux  and the pc gets great speeds.
[03:24] <holstein> Samizdat: cool.. what about the router?
[03:24] <Samizdat> I've cycled it a few times.
[03:24] <holstein> Samizdat: i would try with a live CD.. where have you changed the DNS settings?
[03:24] <holstein> Samizdat: what browsers have you tried?
[03:24] <Samizdat> Chrome, firefox.
[03:24] <holstein> Samizdat: how does it work hard wired?
[03:25] <Samizdat> Haven't tried that one yet.
[03:25] <holstein> Samizdat: i would remove the wifi driver from the equation
[03:25] <Samizdat> Sounds good.
[03:25] <holstein> Samizdat: plug it in.. confirm that that is even the issue
[03:25] <Samizdat> You gonna be around for a bit?
[03:25] <Samizdat> :)
[03:25] <holstein> then you should undo what you have tried so far, because i dont think this is going to have anything to do with the wifi
[03:26] <holstein> Samizdat: i would try as a different user.. i would look at how you have specified the DNS settings.. i would try ping tests.. i would try with a live CD
[03:26] <Samizdat> Will do.
[03:26] <holstein> Samizdat: i'll be here for a bit.. i can only offer trouble shooting advice for you
[03:27] <Samizdat> I appreciate it.
[03:27] <Samizdat> It just seems strange I'm getting such a slow signal.  No signal, I can understand.  I did a fresh install yesterday and had the same problem.
[03:28] <holstein> lagreca: this work? http://askubuntu.com/questions/134210/show-me-only-picture-thumbnails
[03:32] <lagreca> holstein: I'll try it. thanks
[04:20] <Samizdat> You about holstein?
[04:20] <holstein> yu
[04:21] <Samizdat> Well, I tried all the different things.  I had a great connection wired.
[04:21] <Samizdat> Bad connetion wireless off the live cd.
[04:21] <holstein> interesting.. still, you dont need to mess about with DNS settings
[04:21] <holstein> the issue is isolated in some way to wifi
[04:22] <holstein> Samizdat: i would try the windows wireless driver.. start trying any other wifi drivers really
[04:22] <Samizdat> I had a strong connect right next to the router, wireless.  Stayed with me for bit when  I went upstairs, then faded.
[04:22] <holstein> Samizdat: i assume you have used that wifi device in windows? and it was fine?
[04:22] <Samizdat> Yeah.
[04:22] <holstein> i would want to confirm its not hardware
[04:22] <Samizdat> Oh wait, the one in this computer?
[04:23] <holstein> Samizdat: the one in the machine that you are saying the wifi is bad in
[04:23] <Samizdat> No, never even booted it into windows.
[04:23] <Samizdat> Went straight to ubuntu.
[04:23] <holstein> Samizdat: OK.. that would be a good test... confirm that the wifi card is not broken
[04:23] <Samizdat> Might just be a bad antenna.
[04:24] <holstein> yup.. and you'll be fooling about with drivers and DNS settings and breaking and reinstalling for weeks ;)
[04:24] <Samizdat> And I would need to install windows?
[04:24] <holstein> Samizdat: nah... you'll just need to confirm that in whatever way you feel you need to
[04:24] <holstein> thats one way
[04:25] <Samizdat> Hmm, maybe I'll try some different drivers.
[04:26] <Samizdat> What was that one you rec'd, holstein?
[04:27] <holstein> Samizdat: whatever windows driver is recommended using ndiswrapper... ndisgtk
[04:28] <Samizdat> Will google about.  Thanks for the help.
[04:28] <holstein> sure... anytime
[04:28] <Samizdat> Should I take this into the main channel?  I've never used the ubuntu irc.
[04:29] <Samizdat> Don't know what's proper on here.
[04:29] <holstein> Samizdat: you can.. but thats something you need to know.. is the hardware good
[04:29] <holstein> i dont think anyone will debate that is not a waste of time
[04:29] <Samizdat> Hmm.  It's just strange it's kinda bad. :/
[04:29] <holstein> and i could argue anything else is a waste of time til you know the hardware is tested and good
[04:30] <Samizdat> Google driver wi-fi, linux hp model #?
[04:30] <holstein> Samizdat: that is exactly the kind of behavior i would expect from ban internet, which is what i suggested earlier.. and i would imagine if the hardware were bad as well
[04:32] <holstein> Samizdat: if it were me, i would not believe it til i had the OS and driver from the manufacturer, and the thing didnt work.. and then id still test it some other ways
[04:32] <holstein> id googe the #'s on it.. the output of lspci.. whats on the actual chip inside the thing...
[04:33] <holstein> whatever it takes... there a reason why computer techs charge for this work
[04:34] <Samizdat> Yeah, it's a pain in the ass.
[04:34] <holstein> id want to see it come out of the box, and *not* work.. then id know the hardware is bad
[04:35] <holstein> troubleshooting is all about reducing variables.. and right now, you got too many.. you dont know the OS, the driver support, nor the hardware
[04:35] <holstein> its all a big variable
[04:36] <holstein> any one of a bunch of things can be wrong... i have money on the wifi card, though you can open a terminal and run "lscpi" and output that to pastebin and ill look around
[04:37] <holstein> Samizdat: in a terminal.. thats "lspci"
[04:37] <holstein> i have a typo above
[04:38] <holstein> !paste | Samizdat
[04:38] <ubot2`> Samizdat: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[04:39] <Samizdat> One sec
[04:41] <Samizdat> http://pastebin.com/pvu63X7b
[04:41] <Samizdat> Oh wait, did you need ubuntu's pastebin?
[04:41] <Samizdat> holstein:
[04:43] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/106568/my-wireless-has-suddenly-became-disabled-by-hardware-switch-bios-rfkill-fnf8
[04:43] <holstein> suggests doing a reset
[04:44] <Samizdat> I'm on HP's site, they list a few different wifi drivers for linux they host.
[04:44] <Samizdat> http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=5060882&prodTypeId=321957&prodSeriesId=5060880&swLang=13&taskId=135&swEnvOID=2020
[04:44] <holstein> this looks hopeful http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1873537
[04:45] <holstein> Samizdat: you can try them.. trying drivers is a good troubleshooting step
[04:48] <Samizdat> Look at this one: http://www.laptopndriver.com/acer/fix-hp-probook-4530s-wireless-lan-wifi-ubuntu.html
[04:48] <Samizdat> Think this might be a winner.
[04:51] <holstein> Samizdat: did you install an additional driver?
[04:51] <holstein> anyways... this is usually what i do when i first get a machine.. i have a stack of parts laying around though, and im not afraid to swap out some hardware thats more easily supported
[04:52] <holstein> anyways... good luck Samizdat ! ...im sure you'll get it sorted.... try the main #ubuntu channel if its dead in here... i gotta crash.. cheers!
[04:53] <Samizdat> nn, thanks.
[10:02] <DocStrangeLove> Okay I'm a total noob to Linux (just installed Ubuntu 12.04 a week ago), and I need some serious help on a number of issues... is there anyone here who can help?
[10:02] <DocStrangeLove> 1st issue: I finally got my Samba network up and functional, but when editing my fstab to make the hard drive mount during boot I somehow changed permissions and now I can't write to it any longer
[10:03] <DocStrangeLove> (can still read, and I think execute too)
[10:04] <DocStrangeLove> I had restarted once with a line in fstab which included the switch umask=002
[10:05] <DocStrangeLove> i've sinced deleted the umask (replaced with "defaults") but it's still not writeable, do I just need to do chmod from the terminal once?
[10:05] <DocStrangeLove> or do I need to modify fstab again?
[10:29] <DocStrangeLove> Sorry, accidentally closed window
[10:29] <DocStrangeLove> anyone here to lend help to a Linux-noob?
[10:51] <DocStrangeLove> I edited my fstab file and lost permissions to write to a hard drive, now I can't seem to get them back
[10:51] <DocStrangeLove> can anyone help me?
[11:36] <vangelas> I installed firefox 14.0.1 manually as well as the latest flash plugin, but firefox cannot 'see' the plugins. Any ideas?