| Darxus | It looks like the gtk source package has a really horrible way of communicating it has noticed you built it with some additional functions in its output libraries and therefore is failing to build. | 00:13 |
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| desrt | Darxus: you mean that we have tests to ensure that we don't mistakenly leak new public symbols? | 00:32 |
| desrt | Darxus: you might have to convince the rest of the world that this is a 'horrible' thing before we consider getting rid of it... | 00:32 |
| Darxus | desrt: No, I mean it took me forever to figure out what it was complaining about. When I was already aware that "success" would be marked by an error about new symbols. | 00:34 |
| Darxus | I understand the need for that check, I'm happy it happens. | 00:34 |
| Darxus | Last time I did this, I could fix it with "cp -a debian/libgtk-3-0/DEBIAN/symbols debian/libgtk-3-0.symbols"... debian/libgtk-3-0/DEBIAN/symbols doesn't exist now. | 00:42 |
| desrt | Darxus: it's worth mentioning that gtk itself has this check builtin upstream | 00:50 |
| Darxus | Great. It still would be nice if it was clearer what the build error was. By possibly putting "error" somewhere near the error. | 00:51 |
| Darxus | How do I update the abi so it'll build? | 00:51 |
| jbicha | Darxus: debian/libgtk-3-0.symbols still exists | 00:53 |
| desrt | Darxus: you could also just disable the symbols check entirely | 00:53 |
| Darxus | jibel: Yes, but debian/libgtk-3-0/DEBIAN/symbols doesn't. | 00:54 |
| jbicha | why would that exist? | 00:54 |
| desrt | jbicha: good evening | 00:54 |
| jbicha | oh you mean in the build directory | 00:54 |
| Darxus | jbicha: Only because it did in the past, it was the updated list of exported symbols, and I was able to just copy it over the list it was checking against. | 00:55 |
| jbicha | Darxus: in debian/rules you could change DEB_DH_MAKESHLIBS_ARGS to -c0 or -c1 to make the build not fail when new symbols are added | 00:58 |
| jbicha | desrt: howdy | 00:58 |
| jbicha | desrt: have you tried gnome-packagekit recently? I think it works well enough now | 00:59 |
| desrt | no | 00:59 |
| desrt | i'm living a pure unity existence lately | 00:59 |
| desrt | and trying not to kill myself.... | 01:00 |
| Darxus | jbicha: Huh, thanks. What's the difference between -c0 and -c1? | 01:00 |
| jbicha | -c1 will still fail if symbols disappear; man dpkg-gensymbols explains more | 01:02 |
| Darxus | Cool, thanks. | 01:02 |
| jbicha | desrt: how's the dogfood? ;) | 01:02 |
| Darxus | I'd like to properly update the symbols, because I'd like to get this into the official quantal repos. | 01:03 |
| Darxus | Is there a separate exported symbol test in the upstream gtk stuff (which shouldn't be throwing an error for adding --enable-wayland backend), and in the debian packaging stuff? | 01:05 |
| Darxus | jbicha: With both instances of -c4 changed to -c0 in debian/rules I still got the same failure from abicheck.sh. | 01:14 |
| Darxus | DEB_DH_MAKESHLIBS_ARGS_$(SHARED_PKG) += -V --add-udeb=$(UDEB_PKG) -- -c0 | 01:15 |
| Darxus | DEB_DH_MAKESHLIBS_ARGS_libgail-3-0 += -V -- -c0 | 01:15 |
| jbicha | I don't think I've ever built GTK, you could definitely get more help on Monday if you're still having problems then | 01:16 |
| jbicha | does building the wayland support cause any regressions? | 01:16 |
| jbicha | I remember you wanted to get that in last cycle; I'm surprised you didn't push for it earlier this cycle | 01:17 |
| Darxus | jbicha: I've never stopped pushing... I just never get any responses. | 01:17 |
| jbicha | well we could have got away with just doing it at the very beginning of a cycle | 01:18 |
| Darxus | I keep getting freaking excuses why it's not the right time. | 01:19 |
| Darxus | https://launchpad.net/bugs/954352 It's all there. | 01:19 |
| ubot2` | Ubuntu bug 954352 in gtk+3.0 "Enable wayland backend" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 01:19 |
| jbicha | I think it would require a Feature Freeze Exception now | 01:19 |
| Darxus | "Quantal work has not started for that long but gtk 3.5 is being prepared for upload (in fact it's ready for a bit but some theming changes mean that unico needs to be updated, the current version segfaults with the new gtk), it should go in quantal next week " - seb128, 2012-06-05: | 01:20 |
| Darxus | I had a ppa up with the change three months ago. | 01:20 |
| jbicha | right, June or July would have been fabulous | 01:21 |
| Darxus | Great. | 01:21 |
| jbicha | anyway, the buildlog should tell you what symbols you need to add to the .symbols file | 01:22 |
| Darxus | Thanks, so I just add them to... gdk/gdk.symbols ? Does it need to be in order? | 01:24 |
| Darxus | To answer your other question, I believe there were no regressions. (I needed to look up a segfault problem, but that was only related to running things through weston.. there's a bug open against the overlay scrollbar thing for it) | 01:25 |
| Darxus | And yes, I do have the list of changes in the output. | 01:25 |
| jbicha | alphabetical order is a good idea | 01:26 |
| jbicha | for debian/libgtk-3-0.symbols, leave out the -0ubuntu1 stuff, 3.5.12 is all you need | 01:27 |
| Darxus | Ah, yeah, I think I'm hitting a different abi check than that one.... | 01:28 |
| Darxus | Upstream gdk/gdk.symbols. | 01:28 |
| Darxus | I bet after adding the symbols to that file, I'll get the old familiar check failure I had been getting last time, and can just copy over that file. | 01:29 |
| Darxus | Yup, okay, everything makes sense now. | 01:37 |
| Darxus | desrt was right, there's a bug in gtk's abi checking. | 01:37 |
| Darxus | 08:13PM < Darxus> It looks like the gtk source package has a really horrible way of communicating it has noticed you built it with some additional functions in its output libraries and therefore is failing to build. | 01:37 |
| Darxus | ^ That was wrong, debian's abi checking / building is nice and clear about what the problem is. | 01:37 |
| Darxus | I apologize for my lack of faith :P | 01:41 |
| Darxus | desrt: Thanks a lot for your help, I don't want to think about how long it would've taken me to figure this out on my own. | 01:45 |
| Darxus | Woot, I have .debs. | 01:52 |
| Darxus | dpkg-source: error: aborting due to unexpected upstream changes, see /tmp/gtk+3.0_3.5.12-0ubuntu3+wayland0.diff.T1qCj3 | 01:57 |
| Darxus | Hahah... I need to do that abi fix thing via quilt, right. Grr. | 01:57 |
| Darxus | dpkg-source: error: unwanted binary file: debian/install/shared/usr/share/gtk-3.0/demo/gtk-logo-rgb.gif | 02:16 |
| Darxus | dpkg-source: error: unwanted binary file: debian/install/shared/usr/share/gtk-3.0/demo/gnome-gmush.png | 02:16 |
| Darxus | dpkg-source: error: unwanted binary file: debian/install/shared/usr/share/gtk-3.0/demo/apple-red.png | 02:16 |
| Darxus | WTF? | 02:16 |
| Darxus | dpkg-source: error: detected 818 unwanted binary files (add them in debian/source/include-binaries to allow their inclusion). | 02:16 |
| Darxus | Ah, I think I accidentally built binary packages in that directory. | 02:20 |
| Darxus | Hmm, nope, cleaned that up and still getting this error. | 02:23 |
| Darxus | Ah, I wanted to be running "debuild -S", not "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -S". | 02:25 |
| jbicha | man I wish the gsettings Unity/Compiz rewrite had landed sooner, I guess I should have went looking for it myself in trunk | 02:32 |
| jbicha | I'm trying to understand what is the point of /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.compiz.gnomecompat.gschema.xml | 02:33 |
| jbicha | I mean compiz gconf had something similar that was broken but I don't think it's still needed | 02:36 |
| smspilla|z | desrt: gtk-window-decorator | 02:36 |
| smspilla|z | desrt: I'll be landing the thing to port it to gsettings soonish | 02:36 |
| smspilla|z | jbicha: the point of that schema is to provide integration points with the gnome options | 02:37 |
| smspilla|z | that's all | 02:37 |
| jbicha | smspilla|z: but why can't you just use the already existing gnome schemas? | 02:38 |
| smspilla|z | jbicha: we're not using gsettings directly | 02:38 |
| jbicha | what are you using? | 02:39 |
| smspilla|z | jbicha: compizconfig | 02:39 |
| smspilla|z | which has a gsettings *backend* | 02:39 |
| smspilla|z | the thing is that compizconfig doesn't work based on the schemas themselves | 02:39 |
| smspilla|z | but rather what the plugins say the options /are/ | 02:39 |
| jbicha | aren't all of the other backends unmaintained? | 02:39 |
| smspilla|z | jbicha: no, they aren't | 02:39 |
| smspilla|z | jbicha: switching to gsettings direclty would be a huge and very complicated move | 02:40 |
| jbicha | it just seems wrong to me, there should only be one place to change the "Run command" keyboard shortcut | 02:40 |
| smspilla|z | jbicha: there is only one place | 02:40 |
| smspilla|z | jbicha: the gsettings backend has integration code, so it just updates both at the same time | 02:40 |
| smspilla|z | or rather | 02:41 |
| smspilla|z | it ignores the compiz key and looks at the gnome key instead | 02:41 |
| smspilla|z | jbicha: think of it this way: I just took what we used to do with gconf, and rewrote it to use gsettings instead | 02:42 |
| smspilla|z | I didn't do anything else | 02:42 |
| jbicha | right | 02:42 |
| jbicha | anyway, I'm trying to figure out how to get Ctrl+Alt+T working by default | 02:42 |
| smspilla|z | jbicha: ah, now I think that option no longer has a gnome integration point, let me check | 02:43 |
| jbicha | right, GNOME dropped the explicit key in 3.4; we need to add it back somehow | 02:43 |
| smspilla|z | jbicha: org.compiz.integrated.gschema.xml | 02:45 |
| smspilla|z | command-terminal | 02:45 |
| smspilla|z | and uh | 02:45 |
| smspilla|z | <key type="as" name="run-command-terminal"> | 02:45 |
| smspilla|z | <default>["Disabled"]</default> | 02:45 |
| smspilla|z | </key> | 02:45 |
| smspilla|z | jbicha: all of the gnome options that were dropped are now in org.compiz.integratd | 02:45 |
| smspilla|z | (org.compiz.integrated) | 02:45 |
| smspilla|z | which is only exists because g-c-c needs schemas that have paths | 02:46 |
| smspilla|z | (compiz schemas are pathless because we need to support multiple profiles for gnome-classic and unity) | 02:46 |
| jbicha | smspilla|z: why are two terminal commands in that file? | 02:51 |
| smspilla|z | jbicha: there aren't ? | 02:54 |
| smspilla|z | <key type="s" name="command-terminal"> | 02:54 |
| smspilla|z | <default>""</default> | 02:54 |
| smspilla|z | </key> | 02:54 |
| smspilla|z | ^ command for the terminal | 02:54 |
| smspilla|z | <key type="as" name="run-command-terminal"> | 02:54 |
| smspilla|z | <default>["Disabled"]</default> | 02:54 |
| smspilla|z | </key> | 02:54 |
| smspilla|z | ^ | 02:54 |
| smspilla|z | keybinding to run that command | 02:55 |
| smspilla|z | I probably should have included a <summary> section but I didn't have time to tbh | 02:55 |
| jbicha | which is the keybinding and what does the other one do? | 02:55 |
| smspilla|z | "run-command-terminal" <- the keybinding | 02:56 |
| smspilla|z | "command-terminal" <- the actual terminal command (eg gnome-terminal) | 02:56 |
| jbicha | why is panel-run-dialog in there? it's a gnome setting (Alt+F2) | 02:57 |
| Darxus | GTK+ + Wayland PPA for Quantal is working: https://launchpad.net/~darxus/+archive/wayland-gtk-quantal | 03:35 |
| smspilla|z | jbicha: is it? I didn't find an integrated key for it | 04:39 |
| Darxus | Qt5 didn't make Quantal? | 04:39 |
| Darxus | Oh, do they even have a stable release out yet? | 04:40 |
| smspilla|z | jibel: ah, you're right. I'll propose a merge to get rid of those two then. Thanks | 04:40 |
| Darxus | Yeah, beta release was planned this month. Nevermind. | 04:40 |
| jbicha | smspilla|z: yes, in org.gnome.desktop.wm.keybindings | 04:45 |
| jbicha | there's a panel-main-menu also but System Settings > Keyboard uses the description "Show the activities overview" for it, which means GNOME just uses it as a duplicate of Super | 04:46 |
| jbicha | there are several screenshot keyboard shortcuts in org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.media-keys | 04:48 |
| smspilla|z | jbicha: okay thanks | 04:57 |
| smspilla|z | jbicha: thanks for the advice | 05:03 |
| smspilla|z | I'll propose a merge soonish tomorrow | 05:04 |
| LLStarks | ricotz. jbicha, are you aware of the following gnome-control-center crasher? go into User Accounts and try to change your full name. | 06:30 |
| LLStarks | pango flips out | 06:31 |
| jbicha | LLStarks: that's pretty cool, please file a bug for it :) | 06:35 |
| LLStarks | will do | 06:36 |
| LLStarks | jbicha, pango_font_description_set_size error is a pango or gnome-control-center bug? | 06:37 |
| jbicha | it may be pango since System Settings worked in Precise but go ahead and mark it as affecting both | 06:40 |
| LLStarks | it's pretty nasty since it usually crashes the window manager too | 06:42 |
| LLStarks | hmm, not the manager, but decorations. if manager crashes, i usually can't interact with windows anymore | 06:44 |
| jbicha | yeah, nice catch | 06:45 |
| LLStarks | jbicha, sorry got disconnected. bug 1041756 filed. | 06:54 |
| ubot2` | Launchpad bug 1041756 in gnome-control-center "gnome-control-center crashes when trying to change full name in User Accounts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1041756 | 06:54 |
| desrt | jbicha: i don't like dogfood :p | 15:05 |
| dupondje | Hmz, if I copy a file in file-roller, and then want to paste it in Nautilus, that doesn't work | 15:20 |
| dupondje | 'Paste' is grayed out | 15:20 |
| dupondje | by design or a bug? | 15:20 |
| jbicha | dupondje: I've seen Paste grayed out quite a bit, but many times clicking it still works | 15:25 |
| dupondje | then thats surely a bug :) | 15:27 |
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