[08:03] <carsten_g> Good morning together
[08:24] <CarstenG> Good morning again
[09:21] <CarstenG> Hi thorwil and sagaci
[09:21] <sagaci> hi CarstenG
[09:42] <thorwil> aloha
[18:01] <CarstenG> hi patrick
[18:01] <CarstenG> hi noran
[18:02] <noran> hi
[18:09] <noran> hi everybody
[18:25] <patrickdickey> Hi everyone.
[18:29] <CarstenG> hi
[18:48] <CarstenG> Hi John
[18:50] <c7p> hello !
[18:58] <CarstenG> hi Hannie
[18:58] <hannie> hey CarstenG
[18:59]  * godbyk curses xindy/makeglossaries..
[18:59] <hannie> hello ajmontag
[18:59] <ajmontag> hello
[18:59] <hannie> hi godbyk
[18:59] <godbyk> Hello, hannie. Good to have you back!
[18:59] <hannie> thanks, I am a bit unprepared. Hope you do not mind
[19:00] <CarstenG> Hi mike
[19:00] <Guest91492> Hello
[19:00] <hannie> mike = mikeR?
[19:01] <Guest91492> Yes
[19:01] <hannie> welcome to the club
[19:02] <hannie> godbyk, will c7p attend?
[19:03] <CarstenG> John is already here :-)
[19:03] <hannie> oops
[19:03] <c7p> hello
[19:03] <c7p> just a bit busy but i can attend :D
[19:03] <godbyk> Are we waiting for anyone else or shall we get started?
[19:04] <hannie> let's start
[19:04] <godbyk> c7p: Is there an agenda for this meeting?
[19:04] <CarstenG> Hi moez
[19:04] <moez> hi
[19:04] <c7p> nope
[19:04] <c7p> just we'll meet each other and answer any questions
[19:04] <c7p> then we can talk for anything bothers us :D
[19:04] <hannie> godbyk, perhaps we can begin by asking new contributors to introduce themselves?
[19:05] <godbyk> #startmeeting
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[19:05] <godbyk> #topic Introductions
[19:05] <c7p> first say hello if you attend the meeting :)
[19:05] <godbyk> Welcome, everyone, to the Ubuntu Manual project!
[19:05] <hannie> hello
[19:05] <CarstenG> hello
[19:05] <Guest91492> Hello
[19:06] <moez> hello
[19:08] <godbyk> Thanks for coming, everyone!
[19:08] <ajmontag> hello
[19:08] <godbyk> As you probably know by now, the Ubuntu Manual Project works on the Ubuntu manual _Getting Started with Ubuntu_.
[19:08] <godbyk> We publish a new manual every six months (ostensibly).
[19:09] <hannie> hey CrustyBarnacle
[19:09] <godbyk> We have a number of authors, editors, translators, and others who work on the manual.
[19:09] <godbyk> Without your help, the manual wouldn't exist!
[19:09] <CrustyBarnacle> Howdy Hannie!
[19:09] <CarstenG> Welcome back nautu
[19:10] <nautu> hi
[19:10] <godbyk> In this meeting, we'll meet some of our new team members.
[19:10] <godbyk> And those of us who have been here for a while can help answer any questions.
[19:10] <CrustyBarnacle> Howdy godbyk
[19:10] <godbyk> Hello, CrustyBarnacle.
[19:11] <godbyk> Who here is new?
[19:12] <Guest91492> I'm new
[19:12] <moez> me too
[19:13] <godbyk> Great! Thanks for coming, Guest91492 and moez.
[19:13] <godbyk> Would you like to introduce yourselves?  What is your background and what parts of the manual are you working on?
[19:14]  * patrickdickey always late to the party...  Hello everyone. :D
[19:14] <hannie> hi patrickdickey
[19:15] <Guest91492> Sure. My name is Mike Romard. I've been an Ubuntu user off and on for about 6 years. I've been working as a technical writer for about two years, and this project would be good for me to give back to the community. I'll be working on the "Getting Online" section.
[19:15]  * CarstenG hopes you slept well, Patrick :-)
[19:15] <patrickdickey> For about 3 or 4 hours. ;-)
[19:15]  * patrickdickey is going to nap before work.
[19:16] <c7p> nice to meet you mike
[19:16] <patrickdickey> Nice to meet you Mike.
[19:16] <godbyk> Thanks, Mike. We're glad to have you!
[19:16] <Guest91492> Nice to meet you all as well.
[19:16] <godbyk> moez?
[19:17] <moez> i'm Moez Bouhlel, and ubuntu user since last year. and, i'm not editor but just begin by translating en-fr. but, i'm looking for helping to reporting bugs and may working on any section in future
[19:17] <patrickdickey> Nice to meet you also Moez.
[19:17] <c7p> nice !
[19:17] <nautu> I'm Nora, I have been using Ubuntu since 2010, I decided to become a translator
[19:17] <godbyk> Thanks for your help, Moez!
[19:18] <moez> :)
[19:18] <CarstenG> Great Nora, translation is always good. :-)
[19:18] <CarstenG> Which language do you use?
[19:18] <nautu> Spanish
[19:18] <patrickdickey> Hi Nora. Nice to meet you too.
[19:19] <nautu> nice to meet you all too
[19:19] <godbyk> Hi, Nora. Spanish is one of our most-requested translations. So if we get the manual translated into Spanish, you'll make a lot of people happy!
[19:19] <hannie> welcome nautu
[19:19] <godbyk> Why don't we have some of our returning team members introduce themselves as well.
[19:20] <godbyk> That way our newer members will have an idea of who to go to for help if they encounter problems or have questions.
[19:21] <nautu> I have one person who really needs the translation
[19:21] <patrickdickey> I'm Patrick Dickey, and I've been an Ubuntu user off and on for about 4 years (completely switched over about 2 years ago). I've been helping with the project for about two or three versions now, and am mainly doing the Advanced Topics section.
[19:21] <godbyk> c7p, CarstenG, CrustyBarnacle, hannie, patrickdickey, thorwil.. c'mon, jump in here.
[19:21] <hannie> ok, I will say something about myself
[19:22] <hannie> I am a translator (en-nl) and I work for the manual as an author/editor too
[19:22] <godbyk> My name is Kevin Godby. I started with the project at the beginning of 2010 and initially worked on the book design and LaTeX code. So if anyone has any LaTeX questions or problems, I'm the guy to pester. :)
[19:22]  * patrickdickey ^^^^  And we've been pestering him a lot this weekend.
[19:22] <CrustyBarnacle> Mario "CrustyBarnacle" - Editor/Author "Installing", and Author on some parts of "Troubleshooting". Technical Writer in a previous career. I frequently pester Godbyk on LaTex code questions.
[19:23] <ajmontag> Hello all, I am a returning member of the team. Last release I worked on the Ubuntu One section. This release I will continue to maintain that, while also working on the instant messaging section. I have been using Ubuntu for about 2 years now. I am an undergraduate student studying Computer Engineering in the US.
[19:24] <ajmontag> godbyk is the one who convinced me to join the team :P
[19:24] <CarstenG> Ok, my name is Carsten, come from Germany. I use Linux since 2003 and Ubuntu since 7.10? I do some german translation, have some experience with LaTeX , too, and try for this release the job as screenshot editor.
[19:25] <patrickdickey> ajmontag, are you studying at Iowa State also?
[19:25] <godbyk> #topic Q&A
[19:25] <godbyk> At this point, I'll open it up for questions.
[19:26] <c7p> Hello, my name is John, i'm using Ubuntu since 7.10. I started working on the project as a Greek translator. Now i'm the autor coordinator trying to ensure that everthing goes right during authoring phase. I do also whatever is neccessary for the project
[19:26] <godbyk> If you have any questions about the project, your role, or anything else, feel free to ask.
[19:27] <ajmontag> yes, I study at Iowa State. I work with Kevin irl.
[19:27] <CrustyBarnacle> During last cycle, we had looked at redoing the Troubleshooting chapter.... Is this the time to look into that?
[19:27] <patrickdickey> Has Canonical released the beta 1 yet? I've got the alpha image downloaded, but haven't had a chance to check lately.
[19:27] <hannie> I want to add that c7p and I are the coordinators for authors/editors/translators
[19:28] <patrickdickey> I'm just down the road from both you and godbyk, ajmontag. I'm in the Quad Cities area (Muscatine).
[19:28] <c7p> patrickdickey: here is the release schedule https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseSchedule
[19:29] <nautu> how soon do you think the spanish can be released?
[19:29] <c7p> nautu: it depends to 2 factors.
[19:29] <nautu> can you figure out a possible date?
[19:29] <CarstenG> When you are ready with translation, Nora
[19:29] <CarstenG> :-)
[19:30] <CarstenG> And captured all schreenshots
[19:30] <nautu> I have already started
[19:30] <c7p> 1st by when your translation is 100% completed
[19:30] <godbyk> I've added the manual project's 12.10 milestones to Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/quantal
[19:30] <c7p> 2nd by when the Spanish editor, you can be that one if there is nobody in charge, will put the finishing touches
[19:31] <CarstenG> The publishing of translated versions depends only on the local team, there is no fixed dead line.
[19:31] <nautu> thing is im using launpad.net to translate
[19:32] <hannie> most translation teams prefer to translate only the LTS versions
[19:32] <nautu> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/precise/+pots/ubuntu-manual/es/+translate?field.alternative_language-empty-marker=1&memo=80&show=untranslated&start=80
[19:32] <CarstenG> Yes, that’s the normal way
[19:32] <CrustyBarnacle> Schedule looks good to me. Do we still need Screenshot editor/s ?
[19:33] <patrickdickey> I would say the more the merrier (Screenshot editors).
[19:33] <nautu> Is LTS latest?
[19:33] <hannie> CarstenG, is there another screenshot editor, apart from you?
[19:33]  * patrickdickey needs to sit down in the next two days and get his virtual machine configured for Quantal.
[19:34] <hannie> nautu, precise pangoline 12.04, yes
[19:34] <CarstenG> Well, I think, John wanted to try it
[19:34] <CarstenG> After he got his VM to work.
[19:34] <CarstenG> :-)
[19:35] <c7p> nope :D, i did some screenshots in the previous release
[19:35] <CarstenG> Sorry, I mean Patrick
[19:35] <CarstenG> :-)
[19:35] <c7p> i don't think i'll have even more time to spare on the project
[19:35] <c7p> no problem :)
[19:35] <patrickdickey> I'll get mine set up by Tuesday, and take a couple of screenshots. Then I'll send them to either Carsten or c7p to make sure they look right.
[19:36] <hannie> ah, ok, so you and Patrick will do it. that would be marvellous.
[19:36] <patrickdickey> Yep. If CrustyBarnacle wants to help out, that would be great too.
[19:37] <CrustyBarnacle> Can do :-) - Just let me know what chapters/sections you need me to work on.
[19:37] <CarstenG> H TonyP
[19:37] <CarstenG> Hi :-)
[19:37] <patrickdickey> Hey TonyP.
[19:38] <TonyP> Hi  all, sorry I'm a bit late
[19:38] <hannie> TonyP, old or new?
[19:38] <patrickdickey> So it looks like this weekend is the UserInterfaceFreeze/Beta1 deadline. So we should definitely be able to start everything then (if we haven't already).
[19:38] <patrickdickey> this coming *
[19:41] <c7p> are there any other questions on this topic ?
[19:42] <hannie> not me
[19:42] <patrickdickey> I'm good too.
[19:43] <CrustyBarnacle> Done
[19:43] <c7p> we can either adjourn the meeting or talk for any other topic you want
[19:45] <patrickdickey> natu, TonyP, moez, do you have any other questions?
[19:45] <nautu> no
[19:45] <TonyP> Not at the moment, thanks
[19:45] <hannie> I have to go, guys, I will read the minutes later
[19:46] <patrickdickey> Bye hannie. Nice to meet you also (since I don't think we've chatted per se).
[19:46] <CarstenG> Ok, see you Hannie, good night.
[19:46] <c7p> see you hannie
[19:46] <hannie> bye all
[19:46] <Guest91492> Bye, hannie
[19:46] <c7p> nobody talks so i guess we are finished
[19:47] <nautu> bye all
[19:47] <patrickdickey> I'll be hanging around for a bit, if anyone has any questions.
[19:47] <c7p> thank you all for coming especially the freshmen !
[19:47] <patrickdickey> Adios natu.
[19:47] <moez> i have an question, in this page ( https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/precise-e2/+pots/ubuntu-manual/fr/+translate?show=untranslated&memo=1370&start=1370 ) i don't find "sava& continue" button and no "First • Previous • Next • Last" links on top. who have any idea?
[19:47] <nautu> chau is more argentine
[19:47] <CarstenG> See you Nora, good luck with the translation.
[19:47] <ajmontag> bye all
[19:47] <nautu> ta
[19:48] <Guest91492> Bye all. It was nice to meet you.
[19:49] <CarstenG> Moez, scroll to the right
[19:49] <nautu> the save ... at the bottom
[19:49] <c7p> moez: does this work https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/precise-e2/+pots/ubuntu-manual/fr/+translate?start=0&batch=10&show=untranslated&field.alternative_language=&field.alternative_language-empty-marker=1&old_show=all ?
[19:49] <nautu> on your right
[19:49] <patrickdickey> moez, are they at the bottom? That's where I see them.
[19:49] <CarstenG> There is a loooong translator hint that enlages the screen
[19:49] <CrustyBarnacle> nautu: Hasta la vista
[19:49] <godbyk> #endmeeting
[19:49] <meetingology> Meeting ended Sun Aug 26 19:49:36 2012 UTC.
[19:49] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-manual/2012/ubuntu-manual.2012-08-26-19.05.moin.txt
[19:49] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-manual/2012/ubuntu-manual.2012-08-26-19.05.html
[19:50] <nautu> hasta la vista baby ;)
[19:50] <nautu> moez is right i cant see the save and continue button
[19:50] <patrickdickey> I only see it on the bottom, when I scroll all the way to the right.
[19:50] <moez> c7p: i have this problem only with this page not others
[19:51]  * patrickdickey is thinking it's because there's a really long string, and the page has a set width to it.
[19:51] <godbyk> moez: It looks like it's in reviewer mode instead of translator mode.
[19:51] <godbyk> At the top of the page, do you see 'Reviewer mode' in green text?
[19:51] <godbyk> Click the 'What's this?' link to get more info about it.
[19:52] <c7p> i think godbyk is right
[19:52] <CarstenG> Moez, the problem is string 1810, there is a long string without linebreak, see https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/precise-e2/+pots/ubuntu-manual/fr/1810/+translate
[19:52] <godbyk> (All of that is just a guess on my part.  Other guesses: You may need to be a member of the French translation team to translate that text.)
[19:52] <c7p> i got to go, thank you all for coming see you !
[19:53] <godbyk> c7p: Thanks!
[19:53] <godbyk> moez: Ah, yes. CarstenG is correct.
[19:53] <CarstenG> See you John
[19:53] <godbyk> moez: If you scroll all the way to the right, you can see the Save & Continue button at the bottom of the page.
[19:53] <godbyk> Good catch, CarstenG!
[19:54] <moez> godbyk: yeh true, thanks
[19:54] <CarstenG> Looks like a big in Launchpad?
[19:54] <CarstenG> a BUG, I mean :-)
[19:54] <godbyk> CarstenG: Yeah.. something they should fix.
[19:54] <godbyk> The comment to the translators doesn't wrap, apparently.
[19:55] <godbyk> I just finished pushing precise-e2 changes to the quantal branch.
[19:55] <godbyk> I hope I didn't overwrite anyone's quantal changes.
[19:56] <nautu> well see you all soon have a nice Sunday, adieu ;)
[19:57] <moez> bye :)
[19:58] <CarstenG> ok, I will have a look for a bug report for that wrap issue in the next days.
[19:59] <CarstenG> Well, on quantal are only you, hannie and me working until now. :-)
[20:16] <patrickdickey> godbyk the warning on the Author's page looks good. I'll copy it over to the new site in the morning.
[20:16] <godbyk> patrickdickey: 'kay. thanks!
[20:16] <patrickdickey> I'm off for a bit. Have a great night everyone. :)
[20:40] <um-test> hello
[20:56] <CarstenG> Ok, see you. Good night.