=== erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === n0ts_off is now known as n0ts === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond === n0ts is now known as n0ts_off === n0ts_off is now known as n0ts === n0ts is now known as n0ts_off === n0ts_off is now known as n0ts [03:47] Is there a way I can install ltsp WITHOUT Unity as the default kit? Can I choose which desktop enviroment? === n0ts is now known as n0ts_off [04:08] If I've originally installed a package via a ppa, then it's later added to the official ubuntu distro, is there anything I need to do to avoid conflicts between the two? [04:39] hi [04:40] anyone around? [04:45] hotswaphdd, it's better to just ask your question and wait === n0ts_off is now known as n0ts === n0ts is now known as n0ts_off === n0ts_off is now known as n0ts === n0ts is now known as n0ts_off [08:01] Hello I am completely new to ubuntu server. what text editors are there? i saw the command vi and nano? [08:03] ":q!CR quit, discarding changes" how do i type :q!CR?? [08:03] in vi [08:18] sliddjur: Press ESC first, then :q! [08:18] CR means "enter" === cpg is now known as cpg|away [10:29] New bug: #1010485 in tomcat7 (main) "tomcat7 is not owner of the directory /usr/share/tomcat7" [Undecided,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1010485 [10:29] New bug: #1017292 in mysql-5.5 (main) "package mysql-server-5.5 5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017292 [10:30] New bug: #1017200 in mysql-5.5 (main) "package mysql-server-5.5 5.5.24-0ubuntu0.12.04.1 failed to install/upgrade: el subproceso instalado el script post-installation devolvió el código de salida de error 1" [Undecided,Expired] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1017200 [11:51] New bug: #1041829 in bacula (main) "package bacula-director-mysql 5.2.5-0ubuntu6.1 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1041829 [12:37] Somewhere on my vps something keeps on sending e-mails to postmaster@vps1.domain.com. How can I find out what script is doing this? I'm using sSMTP with Sendgrid.com. [12:37] I've set MAILTO="" inside crontab, but this was of no help. [12:37] And sSMTP does not use /etc/aliases or /root/.forward [12:38] Any suggestions very welcome, as my reputation on Sendgrid is dropping and the e-mails send to that address keep on bouncing.. :( [13:14] hello all [13:21] Hello koolhead17 [13:23] hi koolhead17 [13:23] hi koopa58 :P [13:24] :) [13:40] koopa58: pastebin an example message with full headers? [14:00] maxb: I'm not sure what message is being sent.. I only see in sendgrid that it is sent to an address that does not work and thus bounces.. [14:01] this is why it's better to use a real MTA [14:01] proper logging and diagnostics, ability to filter things out [14:01] I do know this: http://serverfault.com/questions/421336/prevent-postmasterdomain-com-bounces-with-ssmtp-and-sendgrid [14:03] Hope it is of any help, or anyone that might know where I can find more information.. [14:04] you'll probably have better luck elsewhere, as postfix and exim are the ubuntu-supported MTAs [14:05] qman__: Ah, but I need courier or dovecot with those as well or not? [14:05] no [14:06] courier and dovecot provide pop and imap [14:06] if you don't need those, don't install them [14:07] Hmm.. can I use postfix like sSMTP so that all mail is handled via Sendgrid, and does Postfix then log more information? [14:08] I don't know anything about sendgrid, but postfix can be configured to use a smarthost if that's how you're doing it [14:08] and it can be configured with any number of additional filters, like anti-spam and antivirus [14:08] it's also one of the most widely used MTAs, so online documentation is very good [14:10] I need something that is easy to setup :) and I only need to send e-mails. Also I've learned that I need to be able to retrieve local mails the system might send.. [14:11] Disabling courier would be dangerous? [14:11] it doesn't get much easier than postfix [14:11] apt-get install postfix, answer a few questions in debconf [14:11] courier is not needed at all [14:12] system mail is delivered locally, and can be retrieved using local mail clients [14:12] Hmm.. someone said to me: "You need local mail delivery - just disabling Courier compromises the functionality / security your system - you need to replace it with a local MDA such as deliver / procmail" [14:12] Do you know what they mean? [14:13] partly correct in that you still need local mail delivery [14:14] but removing software doesn't compromise security [14:15] Aha okay, I also found out about the `mail` program, I could use that to retrieve local mail am I right? I have never seen anything come up in there so :) [14:15] yes [14:15] ssmtp probably doesn't do local mail delivery, so if you continued to do that you'd need procmail or similar [14:15] Ah thanks for clearing that up :) so `mail` could handle the local mail [14:15] but postfix can do it all [14:15] Oh okay [14:16] you can optionally use procmail with postfix, too [14:16] And procmail is like `mail` a client to retrieve mail? [14:17] no [14:17] it's a delivery agent, for local mail [14:17] you still need a mail client like 'mail' to read it [14:17] Okay, would I need procmail or is it only for filtering and such? [14:18] Considering what I have setup in /etc/aliases and ~/.forward === Seveaz is now known as Seveas [14:20] not strictly necessary, just optional [14:23] Okay, thanks :) I'll try out postfix.. hope I can catch the program that is sending to that address.. I assume postfix also would log in /var/log/mail.* ? [14:25] yes [14:25] it doesn't log the full content of the messages by default but you can turn it on [14:25] but it does log when and where it's sending them out of the box [14:26] Ah okay, great! Thanks, I'll try it out [14:52] Getting some more info with Postfix now.. but it still seems to use the address root@vps that does not exist.. http://pastebin.com/xiN1rX43 any ideas? [14:58] It seems like there are 2 emails being sent [18:03] Why are there two LXC templates for Ubuntu, "ubuntu" and "ubuntu-cloud"? What distinguishes them? [18:06] ubuntu builds the template from scratch using debootstrap, ubuntu-cloud downloads a pre-built cloud image from the internet [18:07] When should I prefer one LXC template over the other? For example, is ubuntu-cloud primarily intended for use with OpenStack? [18:10] ubuntu-cloud is going to offer you a behaviour identical to the ubuntu cloud AMI that you'd run in EC2 or other cloud providers [18:10] however it requires downloading the pre-built image, so if you already have a local mirror, it won't be able to use it [18:11] also, the image might not be fully up to date, so you may need to apply updates afterwards [18:11] the lxc-ubuntu template instead builds it locally for you, so if you have a mirror, it'll use it as the package source and it'll be perfectly up to date as it'll be building the template the first time you want to use it [18:12] stgraber: Thanks for the explanation. [18:12] I also see that lxc-ubuntu lets me share my user account and home directory between the host and container(s). That looks quite handy. [18:13] yeah, lxc-ubuntu has a few more options than the lxc-ubuntu-cloud template [18:14] So I'll use lxc-ubuntu-cloud if I want to test something that I intend to deploy to EC2 using the Ubuntu AMI [18:14] yep, that'd be the best template to use for that case indeed === cpg|away is now known as cpg === cpg is now known as cpg|away === cpg|away is now known as cpg === ejv_ is now known as ejv [21:07] New bug: #1041950 in samba (main) "package smbclient 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: short read on buffer copy for backend dpkg-deb during `./usr/bin/smbcacls'" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1041950 === cpg is now known as cpg|away === cpg|away is now known as cpg [22:22] New bug: #1041966 in lm-sensors (main) "package libsensors4 1:3.3.1-2ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: conffile './etc/sensors.d/.placeholder' is not in sync with other instances of the same package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1041966 === bitmonk_ is now known as bitmonk [23:56] New bug: #1041980 in exim4 (main) "package exim4-config 4.76-3ubuntu3 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1041980