[06:05] * Kilos Waves good morning [06:18] hi [06:40] hi Squirm roryy [06:54] leaving jhb today [06:54] bleh [06:54] sup [06:55] lo Symmetria [06:55] anyone here any good with gimp/photoshop/whatever :) [07:01] not me [07:40] heh [07:40] Im trying to write an innovation document, what a pain :) [07:40] actually very difficult to write a document to propose vague ideas and to quantify their benefits and their costs when they are all things no one has done before :p [07:50] lol every day i learn something new [07:53] http://www.freetechbooks.com/gimp-user-s-manual-t10.html [07:55] hehe I just suck at anything graphical [07:55] Symmetria, ^^ [07:55] :P I need a logo for my business cards hehe [07:55] lol [07:55] and for documents [07:56] i just use gimp to scale and crop photos [10:03] hi psydroid [10:03] you here all on your lonesome [10:04] hi Kilos [10:04] yeah [10:04] but I'm never really alone [10:04] are you using unity [10:04] hehe [10:05] I'm in too many channels [10:05] ah [10:05] no, I don't use it [10:05] ah [10:05] I have kubuntu 12.04 installed [10:05] im actually getting used to it slowly [10:05] and ubuntu 10.04 [10:05] the fly and pro will love that [10:06] it's not that bad, but I don't think it's for people like me [10:07] I would probably use the gnome fallback option on ubuntu 12.04, if I installed it [10:07] but the GUI makes sense on tablets [10:07] gnome2 was easier and faster i think [10:08] good morning [10:08] afternoon actually [10:08] i tried the fallback, it not exactly the same [10:08] Maaz: coffee on [10:08] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [10:08] preferences isnt in the top panel [10:08] ho charlvn [10:08] Maaz, coffee please [10:08] Kilos: Yessir [10:09] good afternoon charlvn [10:09] hi psydroid [10:09] oh oh ! me too [10:09] hi nuvolari [10:09] Maaz: coffee please [10:09] nuvolari: Righto [10:09] howdy charlvn! [10:09] it's not the same, but at least more functional to me [10:09] hi oom Kilos and psydroid [10:09] just found an advanced unity customize book [10:10] hi nuvolari [10:10] hi nuvolari [10:10] Maaz, unity customize [10:10] http://ubuntuone.com/4hBTr1gcwxorEcCRd2cgnW [10:10] oom Kilos, just go xfce on ubuntu [10:10] what you mean just go? [10:10] just use that if you're unhappy with unity [10:11] more like gnome 2 than gnome 3 or unity [10:11] no man im getting used to it [10:11] oh [10:11] :P [10:11] I thought you were complaining about it [10:11] xfce hasnt got bottom panel right? [10:12] Coffee's ready for charlvn, Kilos and nuvolari! [10:12] Maaz, ty [10:12] You are welcome Kilos [10:12] Maaz: thanks [10:12] charlvn: Okay :-) [10:12] ok rain has cleared up so i'm about to jump on my bike [10:12] ttyl all [10:13] later dont fall off [10:13] watch for wet patches where oil has gathered [10:13] as in stops and robots etc [10:14] thank you Maaz [10:14] Maaz: thank you [10:14] nuvolari: Sure [10:14] Maaz: botsnack [10:14] Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well [10:45] hrm [10:45] man, amazon irritates me [10:45] there is SO much stuff I would buy instead of pirating if it would just let me [10:45] but nooooo Im in south africa, cant buy mp3s [10:51] howdy all [10:53] Maaz what is a botsnack? [10:53] magespawn: I'm afraid I have no idea [10:53] Maaz what do bots eat? [10:53] magespawn: Not a clue, sorry [10:53] howdy magespawn [10:53] hey nuvolari [10:53] lol, text I suppose [10:54] bits and bytes [10:54] * Cantide feeds Maaz some noodles [10:55] magespawn, haha :) [10:55] howdy Cantide :> [10:55] then do they nibble four bits at a time? '-' [10:55] hi nuvolari :) [10:55] wow, I've been overwhelmed by tiredness [10:55] I'll go for touchdown now now [10:56] haha [10:56] good luck :p [11:08] hi magespawn [11:08] hi Cantide [11:09] hello : [11:09] :) [11:10] hey Kilos === smile4 is now known as smile4ever === Cantide is now known as CanStudy [14:24] hmm talkative bunch arent we [14:35] * Symmetria is trying to wrap his mind around ipsec vpns [14:38] nuvolari, dis Kilo se sus, eks gekonfuse [14:39] hrm [14:39] Kilos: hi tannie, hoekom? :P [14:40] I managed to get all my internet traffic to my house via my vpn point encrypted [14:40] het dogter se LG 500 en is so ver as *111# en moet nou bevel gee vir no4 maar hetti 'n keypad om op te tik ni [14:40] <131073 ESP:3des/sha1 6d4560a0 553/ unlim - root 500 xxx.xx.xxx.xx [14:40] >131073 ESP:3des/sha1 c236ce68 553/ unlim - root 500 xxx.xx.xxx.xx [14:41] wheeee [14:51] * Symmetria just bought a bunch of games :) [14:51] lol, I dont mind buying games when they are reasonably priced [14:52] C&C 3 = R75, lol [15:03] when did C&C3 come out? [15:03] 2 -3 years ago? [15:04] errr... i didn't like it [15:05] yeah 2 or 3 years ago [15:05] *shrug* I still enjoy it [15:05] to each their own :) [16:07] * superfly has bought a few games like that [16:08] good evening [16:08] C&C? [16:09] Command & Conquer? [16:12] Kilos: eks gekonfuse [16:12] hoekom inetpro [16:13] you talking out of context [16:13] about? [16:13] about a daughter and a LG500 [16:13] you tell me I dont read [16:14] but perhaps it's me who didn't follow previous conversations [16:14] Kilos: hi tannie, hoekom? :P [16:14] you have seen me do I look like a tannie [16:14] was my sister and nuvo [16:14] :-) [16:14] hehe [16:15] ai [16:17] her daughter handed in her lg because it wasnt charging. then she left to work in namibia for a month or so and lg delivered the fone to my sis and it still dont charge [16:17] so she was trying to transfer the airtime to her daughter but is totally lost on that touch screen thing [16:18] yikes [16:18] ok, now things are starting to make sense :-) [16:18] and she gave her daughter her nokia to take with so they got mxit contact [16:18] but cant buy voda airtime there [16:19] eish! [16:19] im just the one with access to you guys that know things but made her do her own typing [16:20] shoulda done a nick change i suppose [16:20] sorry [16:20] Kilos: no stress [16:20] I just couldn't understand the encrypted message [16:21] lol [16:22] * inetpro wbb [16:22] k [16:56] hi all :) [16:56] I have a question [16:56] evening y'all [16:57] How to translate this in Afrikaans? Question language [16:57] Is that Vraag taal? [16:57] :p [16:57] smile: in what context? [16:58] direct translation that right [16:58] "Question language:" or "Question language?" [16:58] nuvolari: Well it's a program for teaching words :) [16:59] nuvolari: "Question language:" [16:59] smile: yeah, then that's perfect [16:59] bevraag taal [16:59] Kilos: sure? :) [16:59] hi smile magespawn nuvolari [16:59] howdy oom Kilos [16:59] hey Kilos [16:59] what are you actually asking [17:00] questioning what language is being used or what [17:00] smile: oom Kilos' version would be for the 2nd form [17:00] Kilos: A teaching program asks which language to ask questions in [17:00] :p [17:00] nuvolari: so yours is better? :p [17:00] as in 'question [the] language' [17:00] smile: not better, correct :P [17:00] Okay! :D [17:01] (according to the context) :> [17:01] oh you wanted it in english [17:01] yes nuvo has it [17:01] question the language of choice [17:01] nuvolari: so, Answer language: becomes Antwoord taal: or Antwoordtaal? :) [17:01] reply [17:02] smile: 2 words [17:02] nuvolari: ok :) [17:02] smile: is it for kids or grownups? [17:02] because I would prase it a little bit differently [17:03] "Taal om in te antwoord" [17:03] nuvolari: for 11-24 ;) [17:03] phrase [17:03] ack [17:03] thank you magespawn [17:03] :P [17:03] nuvolari: so, it doesn't matter. I would like to stay as closely as possible to the English version :p [17:03] only checking if you pay attention [17:04] np, no worries [17:04] lol [17:04] not taal van keuse nuvolari [17:04] or keuse van taal [17:04] sjoe i go lie down [17:04] bye :) [17:04] @ Kilos [17:04] toods smile [17:05] nuvolari: I think Hint in English just stays Hint in Afrikaans? :) [17:05] Kilos: goodbye, see ya :) [17:05] skimp [17:05] later Kklos [17:05] huh [17:05] Kilos [17:05] no man [17:05] smile: leidraad [17:05] i was running from the language thing [17:05] lol [17:06] nuvolari: or aanwysing / tip ? [17:06] not easy to just change 2 words without know where they gonna be used [17:06] It's a hint for an unknown word :) [17:06] Like @ hang man [17:06] smile: aanwysing is more like direction [17:07] nuvolari: ok :) I think tip is the most accurate, don't you think? [17:07] but tip is not afrikaans? [17:07] leidraad would be the clearest description :P [17:07] thats what the wife says too [17:08] nuvolari: really not? :o [17:09] smile: tip in afrikaans would be like tipping over [17:09] nuvolari: I see :D [17:09] nuvolari: are you bored of me asking questions ;) or can I ask some more [17:09] :p [17:09] go on we are all learning [17:10] indeed [17:10] is this a questioaire you are vertaling [17:10] if the others don't mind [17:10] i don't [17:10] Kilos: yeah, a part of an app ;) [17:10] Sort becomes Sorteer, right? :) [17:10] correct [17:10] correct [17:10] ok so its like language---- [17:11] and you enter your choice there? [17:11] you should watch Noot-vir-Noot :P [17:11] yo Banlam you came to life [17:11] yes i did [17:12] Ask foreign - known => Vraag vreemde - bekende [17:12] hrr. is it possible to have the same photo's in multiple albums on picasa? [17:12] ? :) [17:12] nuvolari: Not sure, but I think it's impossible [17:12] smile, what does that mean? [17:12] ask foreign? [17:12] yes it is nuvolari [17:12] They mean: ask words from the foreign language or ask words from the known language [17:13] magespawn: really? [17:13] i would add taal to vreemde and bekende [17:13] smile: ah, then rather "vraag van vreemde of bekende" [17:13] smile, would be "Vra vreemd" [17:13] or the whole sentence [17:13] Vra van vreemde of bekende ? :) [17:13] i think you have to do it on the local machine [17:14] smile, no like nuvolari [17:14] i was getting confused [17:14] Banlam: ok :) [17:14] magespawn: eek, using the picasa app? [17:14] on the web you can you just upload to two albums [17:15] long time since i used it [17:15] * nuvolari is actually trying to save on uploads :P [17:15] is that problem? [17:15] ahh okay then [17:16] I pretty much want duplicates, or for the images to show up in 2 places [17:16] like tagging [17:16] but I don't know how to retrieve tagged photo's in google+ [17:16] I don't think it's possible [17:17] not sure I will have look in the morning [17:17] ag, I'm just going to extract the photo's to a different album [17:17] can't do harm [17:18] hehe just had a memory from dunno when [17:19] oh! there's copy :> [17:19] the guy said i can speak all languages except greek [17:19] Kilos? [17:19] magespawn: found the copy option! [17:19] ahh thought there was one [17:19] ask him say this in a language and hed say thats greek to me [17:21] Unnamed = naamloos ? :D [17:22] smile: unnamed what? [17:22] it might sound stupid but I need a context as it might have different meanings/translations :P [17:22] Not sure :P [17:22] ^^ [17:23] hmm ok, ya, naamloos will have to do [17:23] I submitted that [17:23] :p [17:23] it's located in words.py [17:24] watter program? [17:25] Kerbero: OpenTeacher :) [17:25] www.openteacher.org [17:26] o interessant [17:26] Ja :) [17:27] sheesh, it's hard work to sort through photo's after an outing [17:27] it is ;) [17:32] !help [17:32] Maaz: help [17:32] smile: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff. [17:32] Ask me "help me with ..." for more details. [17:32] Maaz: help me with looking things up [17:32] smile: I use the following features for looking things up: apt-file, aptitude, bash, bible, dict, distance, dns, factoid, feeds, fml, fortune, google, help, imdb, lastfm, lotto, mac, man, microblog, mlia, oeis, ports, rfc, seen, tfln, tinyurl, tld, translate, tvshow, unicode, weather and youtube [17:32] Ask me "how do I use ..." for more details. [17:32] Maaz: how do I use google [17:32] smile: Retrieves results from Google and Google Calculator. You can use it like this: [17:32] google[.] [for] [17:32] googlefight [for] and [17:32] gcalc [17:32] gdefine [17:32] Maaz: google don't make me think [17:32] smile: "Amazon.com: Don't Make Me Think: A Common Sense Approach to ..." http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Make-Me-Think-Usability/dp/0321344758 :: "Don't Make Me Think! A Common Sense Approach to Web Usability ..." http://www.amazon.com/Think-Common-Sense-Approach-Usability/dp/0789723107 :: "Advanced Common Sense - Don't Make Me Think" http://www.sensible.com/dmmt.html :: "Advanced Common Sense - Steve Krug's Web site" http://www.sensible.com/ :: [17:35] lol [17:42] wb roryy [17:42] kbmonkey, ping [18:04] evening [18:07] hi there [18:09] smile: ping [18:10] inetpro: ping! :p [18:10] you should ask these language related questions at #zaf [18:10] Okay, thanks ;) [18:10] the channel has not been busy lately but the guys from translate.org.za hang out there [18:11] they are the experts when it comes to translations [18:12] smile, ^^ [18:13] experts [18:13] ;) [18:13] I like that ^^ [18:13] Just a bit more :D [18:13] they shouldnt um er dunno lemme thing [18:13] hehe [18:13] hmm... [18:13] All language-skilled people should join that channel! now! Come to #zaf :) [18:13] think [18:14] hehe [18:14] ^^ [18:14] smile: in fact those guys have built some fancy tools to assist in translating stuffs [18:15] like pootle [18:15] theres near no one there [18:15] inetpro: cool :) [18:16] Kilos: eh [18:17] Kilos: 2 operators and 6 users - no one ? [18:17] Kilos: 2 operators and 6 users = no one ? [18:17] lol im one of them and you [18:19] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=7tUxrwYrwqo&NR=1 <- Kilos, like it? :) [18:19] no man i dont do the tube [18:20] :( [18:20] it's called mutual attraction [18:20] with a lot of funky rhythm :) [18:24] smile: Tools to help you make your software local http://translate.sourceforge.net/wiki/ [18:25] It's not my software :) [18:25] but, I'll give it a look [18:25] :p [18:25] I guess that's DokuWiki [18:26] And the icon proves I'm right [18:26] :) [18:33] bye :) [18:34] smile: totsiens [18:34] magespawn, where you find a boere meisie in natal [18:34] toods smile [18:34] kip cool [18:34] good night! :D [18:34] inetpro: totsiens :) [18:35] Kilos: does he use Ubuntu? [18:35] inetpro, who? [18:35] Kilos: smil [18:35] smile* [18:35] he has tried them all using smexy or something now [18:36] ahh [18:36] not a unity fan [18:36] looks like i will end up here the only one on unity [18:36] because another translation too I have seen is called virtaal [18:36] aptitude show virtaal [18:36] ja dis reg [18:37] tool* [18:38] didnt you tell me bout it 2 or 3 years ago as well [18:38] could be [18:38] Kilos she is not from Natal [18:38] lol [18:38] a valie [18:39] Klerksdorp NW [18:39] ah there be some kif chicks here in the highveld [18:39] was lekker lifesaving in toti [18:40] I am from JHB [18:40] lol [18:40] they all go there on holiday [18:40] how did you end up in hluhluwe [18:41] and none can swim as well as the natal girls so need lots of life saving [18:41] ya i loved it [18:41] field guiding in the game reserve [18:41] first thing i had to give up when i got serious with ians mom [18:41]