[00:00] <phax> Hello.
[00:00] <pooltable> help with yahoo get smaller on news page help? on all three browers
[00:01] <ickefes> when i connect to my second computer (windows, using samba(?)), I have to open every ogg/mp3/etc file to plat them. I would like to drag a folder to my player so that the computer can play the whole album but that is not possible. I have to transfer them to my computer first and I wonder if it is possible to solve this?
[00:02] <Jak_Atackka> dynesh: I honestly don't know. Ask around, or ask Google.
[00:02] <silverarrow> is anyone using Gnash?
[00:02] <Jak_Atackka> dynesh: I know routers pretty well, but not how to configure the network on the computer itself
[00:02] <dynesh> Jak_Atackka : thanks anyway :) got some work to do :) signing off
[00:03] <wan26> dynesh, might be good to back up files then just reinstall if no solution works
[00:03] <sku11knight> Hi guys. Trying to recover a javascript file that I rm'ed. Any tips or software that I might be able to use?
[00:03] <dynesh> Jak_Atackka : do u think, router has any say in this issue? is there any specific setting i might have to alter for ths?
[00:04] <l1t> I'm trying to apt-get remove --perge rar  flashplugin-installer   and  ttf-mscorefonts-installer  .  I get the error this is not installed. Eventhough they are and I can see them all when I do dpkg -l      Any ideas?
[00:04] <zykotick9> !undelete | sku11knight
[00:04] <Jak_Atackka> dynesh: I doubt it. If your phone wasn't connecting, then maybe, but since it can I highly doubt that the problem is the router
[00:04] <Mikness> IlikeMoose, thoughts?
[00:05] <dynesh> Jal_Atackka : thats fine then...thanks bud..c ya..signing off
[00:05] <ickefes> anyone?
[00:05] <sku11knight> zykotick9 I've been playing around with scalpel, but i'm unsure if it'll recover a .js file. There isn't a .js commented out line.
[00:05] <zykotick9> l1t: FYI dpkg -l will list things you have removed.  do you say "ii" beside each?  FYI #2 "sudo apt-get purge foo" will work...
[00:06] <IlikeMoose> Mikness: sorry, i have no idea, i'm still looking on google for an answer however
[00:06] <zykotick9> sku11knight: sorry, i've never used scalpel before, so i have no idea.  best of luck.
[00:06] <Mikness> IlikeMoose, hey, np. Thanks for looking!
[00:06] <dynesh> wan26: reinstall??? oh man, im screwed then!
[00:07] <wan26> that's just a drastic action i take personally if no solutions work
[00:08] <l1t> zykotick9: nope it says rc.
[00:08] <dynesh> wan26: i've did enough of googling...i hope that ll be my only solution too...bad luck!
[00:08] <zykotick9> l1t: thus you already removed it, but there are still config files... you could re-add it/them, then purge if you wished...
[00:09] <vangelas> Firefox 14 (64 bit) will not play flash videos on sites such bbc and youtube. Flash plugin is installed but it seems firefox cannot read it. Any ideas?
[00:09] <Mikness> IlikeMoose, here's the error I get when trying to 'refresh' Error retrieving ATA SMART data: helper failed with exit code 1: Failed to check if disk /dev/sdb is awake: Operation not supported
[00:09] <Mikness> IlikeMoose, Is it because it's a Windows partition?
[00:10] <l1t> zykotick9: oh wow lol ok thanks ><
[00:13] <IlikeMoose> Mikness: sorry, i can't find anything, /dev/sdb you said is a SSD right?
[00:13] <thufir_> jrib: I think that I got it working.  is postfix installed correctly, or are there errors or problems with this install?  http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/260993
[00:14] <Mikness> IlikeMoose, Yeah, set up as 64GB NTFS. I think because I used Wubi to set up Ubuntu within Windows 7 I need to use chkdsk on Windows to do the check. Problem is, last time I did that it cleared out my Ubunutu
[00:15] <jrib> thufir_: looks ok
[00:15] <Mikness> IlikeMoose, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/guide-to-using-check-disk-in-windows-vista/
[00:15] <silverarrow> anyone on powerpc?
[00:15] <pooltable> help with yahoo get smaller on news page help? on all three browers
[00:15] <silverarrow> three pooltable ?
[00:16] <pooltable> fire fox opera and google
[00:16] <thufir_> jrib: thanks for all the help :)
[00:16] <silverarrow> oh, yes
[00:16] <jrib> thufir_: no problem
[00:16] <silverarrow> the best ones
[00:17] <IlikeMoose> Mikness: did you have automatically fix file system errors checked the last time you ran it?
[00:17] <silverarrow> well, there are some nice alternatives like midori
[00:17] <Mikness> IlikeMoose, i think so
[00:17] <pooltable> how do i fix it?
[00:17]  * silverarrow googles moos
[00:18] <IlikeMoose> Mikness: i'd say uncheck that, leave the other option checked, and if it wipes out again which i don't think it should install ubuntu on the drive without using wubi, install ubuntu on the drive next to it.
[00:19] <Mikness> IlikeMoose, thanks. "install ubuntu on the drive next to it"?
[00:19] <zykotick9> i'd recommend using VirtualBox over WUBI, if you want to keep the "VM" for any amount of time.
[00:20] <zykotick9> i native install, is obviously greatly prefered over any VM solution...  just to be clear ;)
[00:21] <IlikeMoose> when you boot from the ubuntu cdrom or whatever you're using choose the installation option to install ubuntu along with windows, it should be the first option closest to the top.
[00:21] <Mikness> IlikeMoose, k, I'll give that a shot instead, then. Thanks again for the help!
[00:30] <compdoc> anyone use infiniband cards?
[00:30] <pooltable> yahoo not working how to fix ??
[00:32] <sku11knight> How would I find a zip file with the end of central directory signature?
[00:37] <ki4ro_> .
[00:38] <silverarrow> is there a reason to stay away from Ubuntu because of Unity?
[00:38] <ki4ro_> Just installed the newest SMUXI...seems to work just fine
[00:38] <wan26> No silverarrow
[00:38] <silverarrow> I  mean, is it possible to get back to regular gnome?
[00:39] <silverarrow> I keep reading it all the time on blogs, "hate unity, hate ubuntu",
[00:39] <wan26> You can use it alongside unity
[00:39] <wan26> selecting it before login
[00:40] <Novux> hello?
[00:40] <wan26> i hated it too, but i like it now lol
[00:40] <silverarrow> wan26, so it is a bit on the cumbersome side?
[00:40] <wan26> It's pretty slick tbh, i use the scroll mouse for the panel, press the windows key for the hud lol
[00:41] <wan26> or alt for a command
[00:41] <wan26> it can speed things up
[00:42] <silverarrow> I might try it then
[00:42] <silverarrow> I am in lubuntu now
[00:42] <wan26> I'm hoping to try that on another machine
[00:43] <wan26> to see what it's like
[00:43] <silverarrow> yeah, it`s nice, mostly for low specs I suppose
[00:43] <silverarrow> and powerpc
[00:43] <wan26> nice
[00:43] <silverarrow> which is low specs with added weirdness
[00:43] <silverarrow> lol
[00:44] <wan26> i was about to say, i dont know anyone with a powerpc lol
[00:44] <silverarrow> hardly anyone keeps them alive it seems
[00:44] <wan26> kudos
[00:44] <silverarrow> mine was a hand-me-down
[00:44] <silverarrow> it is nice to write on, silent, cool
[00:45] <wan26> obedient
[00:45] <silverarrow> though flash and similar is a pain
[00:46] <wan26> i can imagine
[00:48] <Novux> hey guys
[00:48] <Novux> is there any place where i can learn bash and commands and stuff?
[00:49] <jrib> !cli | Novux
[00:49] <jrib> Novux: #bash is very helpful too
[00:50] <wan26> ubuntu pocket guide, files ystem hierarchy standard, and what ubottu said
[00:50] <Novux> whats the difference between the two?
[00:53] <stevo871> hi room
[00:53] <Novux> hi
[00:53] <stevo871> I have just unstalled Ubuntu and I am having a nightmare with it ;(
[00:53] <stevo871> *:(
[00:53] <ki4ro_> .
[00:54] <stevo871> I keep losing my keyboard and mouse soon after getting onto Ubuntu, the keybaord will keep repeating the last letter it registered
[00:57] <aroman> how can I mount an HFS+ partition in Ubuntu?
[00:58] <aroman> `mount -t hfsplus -o rw,force` tells me `mount: warning: /media/Win/ seems to be mounted read-only.`
[00:59] <foobArrr> aroman: journaling has to be disabled, if you want to mount hfs+ rw.
[00:59] <aroman> ah
[00:59] <stevo871> I want to mount a hard drive but I cant get anywhere near that far because my keyboard and mouse drop out, any ideas?
[01:00] <LarsN> where do I configure system wide ulimits on 12.04
[01:01] <LarsN> I want to allow apache ~ 512 MaxClients but it errors if i set the value beyond 256 with a "ulimit: error setting limit (operatin not permitted)" error
[01:01] <aroman> foobArrr: how can I temporarily disable journaling?
[01:01] <aroman> i just need to transfer some stuff from ext4 -> hfs+
[01:01] <aroman> then I'll turn it back on
[01:02] <foobArrr> aroman: from ubuntu? don't think that's possible. otherwise on os x: diskutil disableJournal /Volumes/TheVolumeName
[01:02] <aroman> yeah from OS X. I'm virtualizing Ubuntu
[01:03] <con-man> my audio skips every few mins and goes out of synch since installing 12.04 anyone know why?
[01:03] <con-man> this happens with videos, youtube, mp3s played via banshee etc
[01:04] <te> con-man: more-than-likely video drivers
[01:04] <GeekAdmin> Is there a channel operator or administrator available by chance? I want to add an Ubuntu web chat on my site but wanted to see if its okay to do.
[01:04] <con-man> te, even with just emmm peeee threees?
[01:04] <te> hummmm... nope
[01:05] <aroman> foobArrr: thanks. crazy how it's so trivial to disable journaling. i guess intuitively i'd think you'd need a reformat
[01:05] <LarsN> con-man: I'd be happy to blame pulse audio, but I really don't have any evidence, or proof of that.  (I'm just a hater.)
[01:05] <LarsN> con-man: I have seen what you're experiencing before.  I don't know why it happens though, never put any time into it.
[01:05] <con-man> LarsN, is there a solution?
[01:06] <LarsN> I never looked for one.
[01:06] <con-man> you just put up with it?
[01:06] <LarsN> don't do a lot of audio, so yes.
[01:06] <stevo871> nobody got any clues with my issue? I cannot find anything helpful online
[01:07] <Daekdroom> Does anyone know what is the Launchpad page that tells the state of each Ubuntu repository mirror?
[01:07] <con-man> LarsN, you are the only person I know who doesn't use their speakers
[01:07] <nobriel> join #asterisk
[01:07] <LarsN> heh
[01:07] <LarsN> sorry
[01:08] <trism> Daekdroom: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[01:08] <Daekdroom> trism, thank you
[01:08] <con-man> it's crippling for me
[01:08] <wjtaylor> can someone tell me what gcc wants when it complains there's no rule for a directory? What's the rule for and how do I give it one?
[01:09] <genjix> All Your Base Are Belong To Us
[01:09] <con-man> jesus farking christo it's twice a minute at least
[01:09] <genjix> i like booooobs
[01:10] <en1gma> i installed ubuntu 12.04.1 amd 64 desktop and installed all the packages i have all settings correct like i like. if i want to make a live dvd of my current system is there a guide or an app that will work
[01:10] <con-man> genjix, me too, but what is the relevance?
[01:10] <wan26> brasereo?
[01:10] <wan26> -e
[01:15] <sysd0wn> Anyone have luck using their android phone as a bluetooth GPS device?
[01:15] <randomDude> aroman: is mounting your macosx drive in your virtualmachine going to be the only way you can get data to the virtualmachine (me thinks not since i know of at least five other ways)
[01:15] <Trent> Hello, i'm having trouble I have Kubuntu installed but i'm not sure if it's running the KDE desktop?
[01:16] <aroman> randomDude: it's not, but I don't have access to a machine with USB3 running linux on it
[01:16] <aroman> this is actually a very nice solution
[01:17] <randomDude> aroman: you can't use scp?
[01:17] <aroman> O.o for 750GB?
[01:17] <randomDude> why not?
[01:17] <aroman> well, it'd be way slower
[01:17] <randomDude> but safer
[01:17] <aroman> how safer?
[01:17] <LarsN> aroman: you can do daemon based rsync (ie non SSH)
[01:18] <genjix> all your bae are belong to us
[01:18] <randomDude> !ot > genjix
[01:20] <ki4ro> .
[01:20] <aroman> LarsN: the bottleneck is the transmission medium
[01:20] <dymk> Hi, I was wondering how to go about symlinking a directory in my home folder to another folder (lets call it /home/anon_ftp). I thought that this would work: $~: ls -s ~/AnonFiles /home/anon_ftp/AnonFiles, but I'm getting an access denied error
[01:20] <aroman> USB3 > wifi
[01:20] <dymk> The server I'm using is vsftpd
[01:22] <dymk> I've also tried to chown ugo+rx ~/AnonDownloads, but that still won't allow the anon user to access that folder (and stuff inside it)
[01:30] <matts45acp> can someone here help me format a flashdrive in ubuntu
[01:31] <foobArrr> I'm using a USB KVM switch, one of the connected PCs runs Ubuntu. Sometimes when I switch to the Ubuntu PC, keyboard and mouse don't respond and dmesg is flooded with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1167055/    any ideas?
[01:32] <WeThePeople> genjix, MEEE TOOO
[01:32] <Leon_Cloud_> ciao ^_^
[01:35] <con-man> how do I ditch pulse audio? what's the alternatives?
[01:36] <[deXter]> con-man, ALSA
[01:36] <matts45acp> can someone here help me format a flashdrive in ubuntu
[01:36] <con-man> that is what I have used in the past
[01:36] <con-man> how do I ditch pulse and go with ALSA
[01:36] <[deXter]> Just uninstall pulse and that should do it
[01:36] <[deXter]> matts45acp, Use GParted
[01:37] <matts45acp> dexter i have gparted but dont see any usb there
[01:37] <matts45acp> or i dont know what im doing
[01:37] <abimael> Can i send files with gpg?
[01:37] <[deXter]> matts45acp, On the top-right corner there will be a drop-down list box
[01:37] <con-man> [deXter], how do I Tell what I have now?
[01:37] <[deXter]> you can select the USB from there
[01:37] <con-man> I assumed pulse audio I may be wrong
[01:38] <matts45acp> dexter, its not in there
[01:38] <biohazrd> anyone know if there will be issues with lvm and raid 1 on to 80 GB drives that have different geometry?
[01:38] <[deXter]> matts45acp, You mean it doesn't show up in the list of devices in the top-right drop-down listbox ?
[01:38] <matts45acp> dexter, no
[01:38] <drag0nius2> is there something special i need to do to make ubuntu server's ports visible in wan?
[01:38] <biohazrd> *two..
[01:38] <[deXter]> matts45acp, Is the drive mounted?
[01:39] <ByteEater> Hi, all! I have a VPS and I'd like to install a minimum of packages necessary to run a Mono application with GUI and have it displayed remotely on a Windows machine (with VNC or preferably NX). How do you suggest to approach this?
[01:39] <[deXter]> biohazrd, If it's software RAID then no
[01:39] <biohazrd> thx DexterF
[01:39] <ByteEater> it's Ubuntu 11.10
[01:39] <biohazrd> deXter
[01:39] <matts45acp> dexter, i guess i can see it in the files folders
[01:40] <abimael> Anyone, can I send files with gpg or is it just encryption used for documents and email?
[01:40] <matts45acp> dexter, i got it now
[01:41] <matts45acp> dexter, what format do i format it to
[01:41] <[deXter]> matts45acp, fat32,
[01:41] <biohazrd> if you want to confuse yourself daily run different linux distros on your devices at home
[01:41] <[deXter]> ^ That's what I do. :P
[01:41] <biohazrd> im nuts tho
[01:42] <matts45acp> dexter, ok i dunno how to format it
[01:42] <drag0nius2> so
[01:42] <biohazrd> gentoo, CentOS and Unbuntu-server... Debian on NAS
[01:42] <drag0nius2> is there something special i need to set up to open localhost ports to outside lan?
[01:42] <wjtaylor> what does subdirs=foo do in a make statement. It's not in the man pages
[01:42] <Yiq> how do i make a new ssh key?
[01:43] <[deXter]> matts45acp, So once you have selected your USB drive and can see the partitions in the main window of GParted, go to Device -> Create Partition Table
[01:43] <matts45acp> dexter, do i have to unmount to format
[01:43] <[deXter]> matts45acp, Yeah you can do that from GParted
[01:43] <biohazrd> matts45acp, yes
[01:44] <[deXter]> if you unmount from nautlius then it may not be visible in GParted anymore
[01:44] <`DjM4X> hey, i want to buy a game for a friend as a gift.. it's from the ubuntu app directory. is there any way to buy it as a gift and send it to him directly? link: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/bastion/
[01:45] <roothorick> I just now discovered that my laptop's screen has an overwhelming yellow tint, even in what's supposed to be solid red/green/blue. Is there any way to adjust this out? brightness/contrast/gamma don't affect it
[01:47] <compdoc> roothorick, doesnt sound good
[01:47] <Yiq> how do i make a new ssh key?
[01:48] <compdoc> anyone use infiniband cards?
[01:48] <[deXter]> Yiq, ssh-keygen
[01:48] <`DjM4X> hey, i want to buy a game for a friend as a gift.. it's from the ubuntu app directory. is there any way to buy it as a gift and send it to him directly? link: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/bastion/
[01:55] <drag0nius2> how to allow external access to the port?
[01:55] <drag0nius2> in ubuntu
[01:55] <rodarima> any app like dropbox but in p2p for ubuntu? exists?
[01:56] <MonkeyDust> rodarima  dropbox is not p2p, it's online storage
[01:56] <rodarima> im looking for f2f
[01:56] <dymk> Alright, so I've gotten to where I can break out of the CHRoot jail with FTP
[01:56] <rodarima> like WASTE
[01:57] <dymk> with mount --bind
[01:57] <dymk> How do I allow anon users to read the files themselves though
[01:57] <drag0nius2> i've glassfish and ts3 running on my ubuntu server, but they're not accessible from external ip
[01:58] <TJ-> drag0nius2: configure the public router with port-forwarding rules for the ports
[01:59] <rodarima> and don't access inside your own LAN
[01:59] <drag0nius2> tcpdump shows packets incoming
[02:00] <drag0nius2> so i guess port forwarding works at all
[02:00] <TJ-> drag0nius2: Have you got firewall rules on the server opened too?
[02:01] <drag0nius2> i didn't set up anything
[02:01] <drag0nius2> there might be some by default
[02:02] <TJ-> drag0nius2: If you're analysing the interface with tcpdump, presumably you can see if the server is replying
[02:02] <TJ-> drag0nius2: if you're doing the tcpdump on the server itself, and not seeing any reply packets then you've obviously got some configuration wrong
[02:03] <drag0nius2> there is local comp on left of >
[02:03] <drag0nius2> and external ip on the right
[02:03] <drag0nius2> for ts3
[02:03] <drag0nius2> and no other packets
[02:04] <TJ-> drag0nius2: Are you trying to do a loop-back from inside your own network? that won't work. You need to test from outside the network
[02:04] <drag0nius2> you have ts3 maybe? xD
[02:05] <TJ-> what is ts3?
[02:05] <drag0nius2> teamspeak 3
[02:05] <TJ-> drag0nius2: no
[02:05] <drag0nius2> guess you dont then ;d
[02:05] <TJ-> drag0nius2: If it's not open-source... !
[02:06] <drag0nius2> bah, how to find packets i actually want in that tcpdump
[02:06] <drag0nius2> theres mass stuff going on whole time
[02:06] <TJ-> drag0nius2: set a filter based on destination port
[02:06] <drag0nius2> how to use multiple ports?
[02:07] <TJ-> drag0nius2: such as "tcp and port 5678" or "udp and port 5678" or "tcp and host 1.2.3.4"
[02:07] <sku11knight> Blech. Does anyone have any experience recovering data after you rm it? I just stupidly rm'ed a .js file and am now having problems retrieving it
[02:08] <TJ-> sku11knight: Does any program/process still have the file open?
[02:08] <sku11knight> nope > <
[02:08] <sku11knight> i checked for swp's and everythin
[02:08] <TJ-> sku11knight: then probably not
[02:08] <sku11knight> TJ- my chances of recovering it are nil?
[02:08] <TJ-> sku11knight: If it's a .js (Javascript) could it be cached by a browser?
[02:09] <sku11knight> i checked
[02:09] <sku11knight> and no luck
[02:09] <TJ-> sku11knight: You could always take the disk offline and use testdisk/photorec on it
[02:09] <sku11knight>  i tried foremost but it just got every file that i didn't want : P
[02:10] <sku11knight> i also have the same file in a .zip that i deleted
[02:10] <TJ-> What is the preoccupation with deleting things in these days of massive disks!? :p
[02:10] <sku11knight> i am an idiot.
[02:11] <TJ-> sku11knight: were you working on the file with a text editor?
[02:11] <sku11knight> vi
[02:11] <sku11knight> so yes
[02:11] <TJ-> sku11knight: Because they usually create a backup with a ~ on the end
[02:12] <TJ-> Though vi doesn't by default, I don't think
[02:15] <Balthazar> Does anyone here use dolphin-emu with AMD? Need some help optimizing with A8-3850.
[02:17] <drag0nius2> im out of ideas
[02:17] <TJ-> Drag0nir:  have you tested from outside the network?
[02:17] <TJ-> oops
[02:18] <drag0nius2> drag0nius.dyndns.org:8080/d3calc2/
[02:18] <drag0nius2> try that
[02:18] <drag0nius2> it works?
[02:19] <TJ-> drag0nius2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1167384/
[02:20] <drag0nius2> hmm guess now just server stopped working xd
[02:21] <ByteEater> what do I need to install on Ubuntu 11.10 on VPS which has no Xorg Sever in order to connect via NX?
[02:22] <drag0nius2> lol
[02:22] <drag0nius2> why wouldnt it work on loopback
[02:23] <TJ-> drag0nius2: The question is, why *would* it work?
[02:23] <drag0nius2> why would not it work if i try from inside lan
[02:23] <silverarrow> I lost sound when installing/unistalling lightspark flash player
[02:23] <silverarrow> what can I do?
[02:24] <silverarrow> I have opened alsamixer but settings seem to be fine
[02:24] <TJ-> drag0nius2: Because the network stack cannot do what you are trying to do
[02:24] <drag0nius2> it worked when i used router as router xd
[02:24] <nycsd>  hello NoFace
[02:24] <nycsd> hello
[02:25] <nycsd> hi
[02:25] <drag0nius2> but doesnt work when i've ubuntu server in the middle
[02:25] <bazhang> nycsd, ubuntu support question?
[02:26] <TJ-> drag0nius2: The you need to configure the server for masquerading  and forwarding
[02:27] <drag0nius2> i think it has masquerading
[02:27] <drag0nius2> i rember setting up sth like that when configured dhcp
[02:28] <rocky> hello guys
[02:28] <asdasvqbe> Hola
[02:29] <asdasvqbe> Hello
[02:29] <asdasvqbe> :P
[02:29] <asdasvqbe> Hi?
[02:29] <wan26> hi.
[02:30] <rocky> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04, have problem with Ubuntu sleep, when it wakes up-goes to black screen, the error says drm:radeom_ib_schedule error radeon couldn't schedule IB!, does anyone knows this?
[02:30] <asdasvqbe> Any hacking tool for ubuntu?
[02:30] <asdasvqbe> ¿? :)
[02:30] <bazhang> asdasvqbe, no
[02:30] <silverarrow> any idea why sound disappears?
[02:31] <asdasvqbe> Idiots -_-
[02:31] <silverarrow> ...---...
[02:31] <asdasvqbe> I'M SPANISH! PEOPLE SPEAK SPANISH!!!
[02:31] <asdasvqbe> xD
[02:31] <mrgrins> xD
[02:31] <King_Cobra> what i miss..
[02:31] <bazhang> asdasvqbe, any actual ubuntu support question?
[02:31] <rodarima> holaa!
[02:31] <asdasvqbe> XD! Speak!!!
[02:31] <asdasvqbe> Hola!!!
[02:31] <silverarrow> si si, no comprende
[02:31] <FloodBot1> asdasvqbe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:31] <asdasvqbe> Como estas?
[02:31] <rocky> and 2nd error is drm:radeon_cs_ioctl error failed to schedule ib!
[02:31] <TJ-> rocky: see bug #586243
[02:32] <rodarima> bien jaja
[02:32] <King_Cobra> brb
[02:32] <wan26> adios
[02:33] <rodarima> dormir es un buen comienzo
[02:34] <bazhang> !es | rodarima
[02:35] <sku11knight> hey guys how would i mv a bunch of directories that all start with the same thing but end in something different? kinda like mv directory-*
[02:35] <enix> i am trying to convert a dmg to img, i get to last step and get an error, i looked up how to fix that, but the fix errors
[02:36] <enix> using instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManageDiscImages#DMG%20Images
[02:36] <TJ-> sku11knight: "mv /path/to/somedirnames* /path/to/destination/"
[02:36] <sku11knight> thanks tj-
[02:37] <rocky> TJ-, seems like there is no solution to this bug  /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf
[02:37] <rocky> TJ-, sorry i meant to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/586243
[02:37] <TJ-> rocky: I saw some comments that using a more recent kernel solves it too
[02:38] <rocky> TJ-, it points to this link http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/, i'm not sure how to install kernel
[02:38] <coldpizza72i> Im trying to unmount a hdd but it says its busy
[02:38] <mertcanekiz> Hi can I ask a question?
[02:38] <rocky> unless there is easy sudo apt-get command
[02:38] <TJ-> rocky: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[02:40] <zykotick9> !ask | mertcanekiz
[02:40] <rocky> TJ-, how do i check my current kernel installed, i see latest is 3.6.0-999 generic avaiable out there
[02:42] <silverarrow> anyone clever with sound issues, I lost sound
[02:42] <py_can> I'm getting the error "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb,
[02:42] <py_can>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[02:42] <py_can> "  when i add my secondary HDD to /etc/fstab
[02:42] <py_can> oops
[02:42] <TJ-> rocky: Use v3.5  ... v3.6 is still in development and may contain bugs. I run v3.5 here and it is faster at many things than the stock 3.2 in Precise.
[02:42] <FloodBot1> py_can: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:42] <zykotick9> !paste > py_can
[02:42] <mertcanekiz> I've tried to install Ubuntu directly from hard drive. I've managed to enter livecd installation. It was normal until the installation started. It said cannot unmount /cdrom so I unmounted it manually. Then ubiquity crashed. I had formatted the partition where previous Ubuntu was installed so now my question is, is GRUB uninstalled when I formatted that partition? If so, how can I install it back. Because I'm scared to reboot now
[02:42] <rocky> TJ-, thanks for the advise
[02:42] <mertcanekiz> bootloaderless pc
[02:42] <zykotick9> py_can: sdb is a drive, you probably want a partition sdb1 for example (but sometimes not)
[02:43] <TJ-> py_can: That's probably because you're referring to the name of the host device (/dev/sdb) instead of one of its partitions (/dev/sdb1 for example)
[02:43] <zykotick9> TJ-: lol ;)
[02:43] <py_can> zykotick9: it comes from an older ubuntu installation. TJ-, fdisk -l doesnt show me that /dev/sdb1
[02:43] <TJ-> zykotick9: are we twins? :p
[02:43] <py_can> TJ-, wait it does
[02:43] <TJ-> py_can: I'm waiting :)
[02:43] <py_can> TJ-: ^_^
[02:44] <mertcanekiz> can anybody answer please?
[02:44] <py_can> TJ-, ok, that worked :P
[02:44] <py_can> thx zykotick9 TJ-
[02:45] <pepperjack> mertcanekiz: have you already re-installed to the same partition you formatted?
[02:46] <mertcanekiz> I've tried, but it crashes, so now I plan to try another version or another distro, but I fear I won't be able to boot
[02:46] <rocky> TJ-, i have amd64 machine, so i will go only 2 files then a) linux-headers-3.5.2-030502-generic_3.5.2-030502.201208151151_amd64.deb b) linux-headers-3.5.2-030502_3.5.2-030502.201208151151_all.deb, do i need 	linux-image-3.5.2-030502-generic_3.5.2-030502.201208151151_amd64.deb & linux-image-extra-3.5.2-030502-generic_3.5.2-030502.201208151151_amd64.deb	?
[02:46] <pepperjack> mertcanekiz: well grub will still be there but it's set to boot using files on that partition so you'll get grub but wont be able to boot.  if you have a usb stick or can burn a livecd you and easily still boot them to reinstall
[02:47] <pepperjack> mertcanekiz: basically the bootloader is there (grub) but theres nothing for it to load
[02:47] <TJ-> rocky: You need the headers amd64, headers all, image amd64 and image-extra amd64
[02:47] <Hetep> hello, am recieving a really weird error after a power outage, where the DNS server is not available, though logging into IRC is capable
[02:48] <rocky> TJ-, is there any order of installation or the way you listed?
[02:48] <zykotick9> mertcanekiz: (don't reply to me) but i think boot-repair or something might help.  or the old school way chroot from a live cd, THEN install grub (FYI the chroot requires MULTIPLE mounting for grub to install correctly - so it's not an easy suggestion, but i'm unfamiliar with boot repair or whaterver it's called).
[02:48] <mertcanekiz> pepperjack: I have a grub entry that boots into a livecd installation that's on a partition on my harddrive. So since I don't delete the partition that the livecd is on, I can reboot?
[02:49] <rocky> TJ-, installing
[02:49] <TJ-> mertcanekiz: not necessarily. If you formatted the partition that contained the GRUB modules and menu, then no
[02:49] <King_Cobra> is the good Dr. in today?
[02:50] <pepperjack> mertcanekiz: yeah I'm sure grub2 requires those files in /boot it doesnt load everything it needs to the mbr
[02:50] <zykotick9> pepperjack: +1
[02:50] <rocky> TJ-, rocky@rocky-laptop:~/Downloads$ sudo dpkg -i linux-headers-3.5.2-030502-generic_3.5.2-030502.201208151151_amd64.deb
[02:50] <rocky> [sudo] password for rocky:
[02:50] <rocky> Selecting previously unselected package linux-headers-3.5.2-030502-generic.
[02:50] <rocky> (Reading database ... 333656 files and directories currently installed.)
[02:50] <rocky> Unpacking linux-headers-3.5.2-030502-generic (from linux-headers-3.5.2-030502-generic_3.5.2-030502.201208151151_amd64.deb) ...
[02:50] <rocky> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-headers-3.5.2-030502-generic:
[02:50] <FloodBot1> rocky: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:50] <rocky>  linux-headers-3.5.2-030502-generic depends on linux-headers-3.5.2-030502; however:
[02:50] <rocky>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:50] <rocky> Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:50] <rocky>  linux-headers-3.5.2-030502-generic
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin > rocky
[02:51] <TJ-> mertcanekiz: It goes BIOS > sector 0 (MBR) > sectors 1-2000ish > (hd0,?)/boot/grub/*
[02:51] <mertcanekiz> yeah I did format it while trying to do a fresh install. Now how do I re-install grub?
[02:52] <rocky> TJ-, i got this error message http://paste.ubuntu.com/1167410/
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> mertcanekiz, you can reload grub with a live cd does the one you have set up in a partition boot?
[02:52] <TJ-> rocky: You'll need to install them all at the same time.... put all the .deb names on the command line to dpkg -i
[02:52] <rocky> TJ-, got you
[02:52] <mertcanekiz> Yeah I'm currently writing from that Live CD
[02:52] <enix> i am trying to convert a dmg to img, i get to last step and get an error, i looked up how to fix that, but the fix errors
[02:52] <enix> using instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManageDiscImages#DMG%20Images
[02:53] <TJ-> mertcanekiz: if you've got that live environment operable you could even do a complete install using debootstrap and a chroot
[02:53] <zykotick9> TJ-: too bad dpkg doesn't order the debs properly, as it lacks dependency checking :(  mass, dpkg -i tend to fail on a regular basis...
[02:53] <Illusionbear> Hello everyone
[02:53] <TJ-> zykotick9: I've never had an issue with using dpkg
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> mertcanekiz, If you can read these instructions for a chroot and understand them you should be set if nothing else is wrong, it defaults to the chroot  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#ChRoot
[02:54] <mertcanekiz> Ok I will look into debootstrap, thanks. I hope I can get this to work
[02:54] <zykotick9> TJ-: i'm tempted to use !wfm ;)  plus manual DEBs won't be updated properly, and updates to the system can break them...
[02:54] <pepperjack> mertcanekiz: good argument for a separate /boot partition next time I guess :)
[02:54] <TJ-> zykotick9: There are no updates to the mainline kernel packages
[02:55] <wilee-nilee> pepperjack, hardly
[02:55] <mertcanekiz> Absolutely :D
[02:55] <rocky> I'm trying to understand the use of TTY to me, i read this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=833765 doesn't helps much
[02:55] <Umo111> Where would I look to intercept/deny/modify packets in ubuntu the same way a firewall would?
[02:55] <TJ-> Even better argument to use LVM
[02:56] <zykotick9> pepperjack: separate /boot makes almost no sense these days... (SOME specific use cases i suppose, but it's origional purpose was due to partition size limitations for lilo probably... these days they typically complicate matters)
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> knowing what you doing is the best argument\
[02:56] <rocky> TJ-, I'm trying to understand the use of TTY to me, i read this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=833765 doesn't helps much
[02:56] <Illusionbear> I've been experiencing rather distressing system crashes with my ubuntu since yesterday, friday 24th.  My system will shut down at seemingly random times and if i dont force the computer to turn off the system repeatedly restarts without managing to stay up.  I have to force a shutdown and wait a couple of minuites before turning it back on without hassle.  Is this something others are experiencing?  I started up this time in
[02:56] <TJ-> Umo111: the kernel netfilters layer... controlled by iptables, ip route, and other tools
[02:56] <Illusionbear>  an eaerlier distro and so far so good.
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> +1 zykotick9
[02:58] <TJ-> rocky: this might help you visualise it http://www.linusakesson.net/programming/tty/index.php
[02:58] <Umo111> TJ-: Thanks
[02:58] <rocky> TJ-, reading
[02:58] <TJ-> illusion: I'd be checking the log files in /var/log/ ... particularly /var/log/kern.log and /var/log/syslog
[02:59] <Illusionbear> TJ - TY
[03:05] <devrat> INFO
[03:06] <mertcanekiz> http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap     -----     so here it says mkdir /sid-root etc etc. Since I'm in a LiveCD and I don't have enough space at /
[03:07] <mertcanekiz> can I do it elsewhere?
[03:07] <enix> i have a mount -t hfsplus error wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0
[03:08] <TJ-> mertcanekiz: What you do is this: "mkdir /target" then mount the empty freshly formatted HDD file system there "mount /dev/sdaX /target"
[03:09] <mertcanekiz> oh okay, I get it now
[03:13] <cainus> Hey all... I'm trying to add a second display, and it seems to be detected by the display panel, but it never shows any video whatsoever... anyone have a clue for me?
[03:13] <AndAy> and you've told it to extend onto that display? or clone, or whatever you need, that is...
[03:13] <cainus> yeah
[03:14] <AndAy> what card do you have? nvidia?
[03:14] <cainus> I even made it primary once, and made my other display secondary
[03:14] <AndAy> and still nothing, oh wow...
[03:14] <cainus> not sure about the card... how do I probe?
[03:15] <TJ-> cainus: "lspci -nn | grep VGA"
[03:15] <AndAy> ah, thank you, TJ
[03:15] <cainus> NVIDIA Corporation MCP78S [GeForce 8200] Memory Controller
[03:15] <cainus>  VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200] [10de:0849] (rev a2)
[03:16] <TJ-> cainus: Are you using the nvidia proprietary drivers ?
[03:17] <cainus> not that I know of
[03:17] <cainus> I assume those are an explicit install?
[03:18] <TJ-> cainus: "lspci -vvnn -d 10de:0849 | grep "driver in use""
[03:18] <zebra> anyone have any experience with the Alfa AWUS036NHR?
[03:18] <cainus> Kernel driver in use: nouveau
[03:18] <TJ-> cainus: OK, that helps us
[03:19] <cainus> I'll assume you're not being sarcastic :)
[03:19] <mertcanekiz> I get "error informing kernel about modifications to partition" in gparted. I guess I have to reboot to fix that, but I can't reboot. Is there any way to fix that without reboot?
[03:19] <TJ-> cainus: I was hacking the nouveau code earlier; I'll check what the support is for the C77
[03:19] <cainus> TJ- awesome... thanks
[03:19] <TJ-> mertcanekiz: Yes - use "sudo part-probe /dev/sdaX"
[03:21] <py_can> 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot() ubuntu server
[03:21] <mertcanekiz> TJ- Thanks that worked. It was partprobe, not part-probe but I figured it out :D
[03:22] <GoldStandard> Does anyone have any possible solutions for getting unsupported canon printers working with Ubuntu?  I've tried a bunch of "solutions" online but none of them work since they are old solutions and have dependencies that no longer exist or were renamed.  If I can get my printer working with Ubuntu then I won't have to use Windows again! :D
[03:23] <zebra> I'm trying to get my alfa awus 036NHR installed alongside the ath5k running internal card
[03:24] <lagreca> hi folks! nautilus won't show thumbnails, even though I've already installed thumbnailers. What can I do to fix it?
[03:24] <GoldStandard> If anyone answered my question in the few moments I was away just let me know
[03:25] <TJ-> cainus: That device has the NVAA chipset revision in it. From what I can see even the most recent nouveau driver has patchy limited support for it, and requires firmware blobs for that too. You might find it better to install the nvidia-current proprietary package which will give you full 3D acceleration, and you can use the "Nvidia X Settings" control panel to configure Twinview multiple screens
[03:26] <cainus> TJ-: okay...worth a shot... where do I get that?
[03:26] <trism> lagreca: delete ~/.thumbnails/fail/ (you often need to restart your session as well after installing thumbnailers)
[03:26] <TJ-> cainus: Are you using Precise 12.04 ?
[03:26] <mint> hello
[03:27] <lagreca> trism: I tried it, but it didn't work.
[03:27] <trism> lagreca: tried which, both?
[03:27] <fleischwolf> hello everyone - i need a device that i can write raw audio input into and get the output through my speakers. which one is it?
[03:27] <TJ-> cainus: press the power icon top-right then choose System Settings >  Hardware > Additional Drivers
[03:27] <lagreca> trism: I tried it previously.
[03:28] <cainus> TJ: yeah precise
[03:28] <lagreca> trism: deleting the fail folder and restarting
[03:28] <trism> lagreca: which thumbnailer?
[03:28] <lagreca> trim: and reinstalling the thumbnailers
[03:28] <lagreca> trim: ffmpegthumbnailer and mplayerthumbnailer
[03:28] <cainus> TJ: activate "version-current" ?
[03:29] <lidar> hello everyone
[03:29] <cainus> TJ: there's a "version current-updates" too
[03:29] <TJ-> cainus: Look for "Nvidia accelerated graphics driver (post-release updates)"
[03:30] <GoldStandard> anyone have any experience with Turboprint for Linux
[03:30] <GoldStandard> ?
[03:30] <cainus> TJ-: yeah got that...activating...
[03:30] <lidar> GoldStandard, that sounds fast !! how does it do?
[03:30] <AndAy> heh...
[03:30] <trism> lagreca: where did you install them from, maybe they aren't updated properly, the argument format changed slightly in 11.10 or 12.04
[03:31] <GoldStandard> lidar it's a compatibility program for printers that do not have linux drivers
[03:31] <TJ-> cainus: Once you've restart you won't be able to use the standard 'Display' applet to configure the displays, you'll have to use the Dash to start "Nvidia X Settings"
[03:31] <lidar> i have hp printers all plug and play
[03:31] <trism> lagreca: check /usr/share/thumbnailers/
[03:31] <GoldStandard> lidar Canon PIXMA ... no linux drivers for some
[03:32] <lidar> yeah lexmark too i have a lexmark all in one that wont work
[03:32] <lagreca> trism: i'll do it.
[03:32] <cainus> TJ-:  it failed:   http://pastebin.com/BpjmxP4f
[03:33] <TUplink> i have a bash script that runs in a loop to output some system stats to a LCD. how can i get this to start at boot? i added it to rc.local but it just freezes boot.
[03:33] <TUplink> the script runs fine from a terminal
[03:34] <lidar> TUplink, did you background the script ? in rc.local put script& ..
[03:34] <lagreca> trism: I can see 4 text files each one for a different thumbnailer
[03:34] <TJ-> cainus: You need to update the package lists; there's a newer version in the archive. do "sudo apt-get update"
[03:34] <lagreca> trism: including totem.thumbnailer
[03:35] <TUplink> lidar: just do this /etc/run/LCD& ?
[03:35] <trism> lagreca: see if any of them use %u, I think it changed to %i
[03:35] <lidar> TUplink, yeah that should fix you up so long as LCD is the script
[03:35] <TUplink> im gonna try it
[03:36] <TUplink> lidar: thanks for the help ./rc.local returns me to the shell thats going to fix it
[03:37] <lidar> TUplink, no problem
[03:37] <TUplink> lidar: can you do that with any command? the & will background it
[03:37] <cainus> TJ- alright... updating... :)  thanks for the help
[03:38] <neooO> guyz i need lil help to install kvm hypervisor any links
[03:38] <lidar> TUplink, yeah \
[03:38] <TJ-> neooO: It's already installed
[03:38] <neooO> i am getting permission denied error
[03:38] <neooO>  unable to connect to '/var/run/libvirt/libvirt-sock', libvirtd may need to be started: Permission denied
[03:39] <trism> lagreca: hmm, maybe that doesn't really matter, which thumbnailers are in /usr/share/thumbnailers/ ? I seem to already have three by default, maybe you just need to write a .thumbnailer file for ffmpeg and mplayer
[03:39] <lidar> TUplink, are you familiar with screen ?
[03:40] <lagreca> trism: yes, they use %u
[03:40] <TJ-> neooO: Try this: "sudo service libvirt-bin start"
[03:40] <lagreca> trism: then I'll write a thumbnailer file for ffmpeg
[03:40] <trism> lagreca: I notice totem still uses %u so that must be okay
[03:40] <neooO> i will try after it can i use graphical mode also?
[03:40] <trism> lagreca: I changed my zip thumbnailer to %i for some reason, been a while since I messed with it
[03:41] <lagreca> trism: I'll write a .thumbnailer for ffmpeg and see what happens
[03:42] <TJ-> neooO: It should be started in runlevels 2-5 unless you've changed the system configuration
[03:42] <lagreca> trism: thanks
[03:42] <trism> lagreca: alright, good luck
[03:42] <crackerjackz> how do i get a root shell from the live cd/
[03:42] <TJ-> neooO: Check /etc/default/libvirt-bin
[03:42] <crackerjackz> when i type su or sudo it ask for a password
[03:42] <lidar> crackerjackz, type sudo su
[03:43] <crackerjackz> lidar: thank you
[03:43] <TJ-> crackerjackz: the password is empty if I recall correctly
[03:43] <neooO> Tj , i tried. it is already running :s
[03:43] <TJ-> neooO: OK, try restarting it "sudo service libvirt-bin restart"
[03:43] <crackerjackz> TJ-: nah empty password doesn't work
[03:43] <crackerjackz> TJ-:  lidar is right you have to type sudo su
[03:43] <GoldStandard> will the turboprint ppd files work without turboprint installed?
[03:44] <lidar> GoldStandard, your questions answers itself
[03:44] <TJ-> neooO: Are you using "Virtual Machine Manager" to control the  KVM guests?
[03:44] <neooO> TJ libvirt-bin not present in /etc/default directory
[03:44] <neooO> yea
[03:44] <GoldStandard> lidar how so?
[03:44] <TJ-> neooO: It should be. Are you using Precise?
[03:45] <neooO> virtual machine manager
[03:45] <lidar> GoldStandard, does a coffee ground make coffee without a coffee maker ?
[03:45] <TJ-> neooO: Looks like you've changed the configuration at some point, you'll need to reinstall: "sudo apt-get --reinstall install libvirt-bin"
[03:45] <TUplink> Thanks all its always a Pleasure
[03:46] <neooO> okay
[03:46] <neooO> i will try
[03:46] <GoldStandard> lidar but i tried installing the printer using only the turboprint-created ppd file and it worked
[03:46] <neooO> :)
[03:46] <lidar> a ppd is a file containing information .. about printing .. it needs something to read it ;)
[03:46] <neooO> ty bro
[03:46] <FloodBot1> neooO: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:46] <neooO> k
[03:46] <GoldStandard> lidar so if I uninstall turboprint it won't work anymore?
[03:47] <crackerjackz> i think i fixed the hard disk
[03:48] <lidar> GoldStandard, ive never used turbo print but im 99% anything that is removed will no longer funtion optimally
[03:48] <lidar> crackerjackz, what was wrong no grub ?
[03:49] <crackerjackz> lidar: nah grub worked... the kernel wouldn't boot but i fixed the hard disk errors with fsck
[03:49] <crackerjackz> imma go ahead and install a different OS on here as well
[03:49] <GoldStandard> lidar :/ you're right
[03:50] <lidar> crackerjackz, like ubuntu ?
[03:50] <lidar> GoldStandard, ty third time tonight ;)
[03:50] <crackerjackz> lidar: as a matter of fact i am putting ubuntu on there for him
[03:51] <crackerjackz> lidar: i was gonna go with gentoo but since he doesn't know much about linux i figure ubuntu would be a good start
[03:51] <crackerjackz> hes already used mint so he is familiar with debian at least
[03:51] <lidar> you mean gentoo still exists :O
[03:53] <OneUp03> I'm having some trouble with courier-imap and wondering if anyone is knowledgeable about it.
[03:53] <lidar> could always  do a lfs system if its for learning ...
[03:56] <wibbit2> I'm trying to use aircrack and it keeps changing the channel to -1... how do I view a list of connection managers installed on ubuntu?
[03:56] <AndAy> airmon will list the conflicting PIDs
[03:57] <wibbit2> 22:54:17  wlan1 is on channel -1, but the AP uses channel 6
[03:57] <wibbit2> Something is changing it back to -1
[04:00] <wibbit2> can i use iwconfig to set it to a fixed channel?
[04:01] <wibbit2> sudo iwconfig wlan1 channel 6 ???
[04:01] <lidar> wibbit2, airmon-ng start wlan1 it will list PIDs/programs that conflict
[04:02] <wibbit2> 00:02:28  wlan1 is on channel -1, but the AP uses channel 6
[04:02] <wibbit2> alright thanks
[04:03] <lidar> wibbit2, just kill -9 PID of what it sees
[04:04] <wibbit2> 1057	avahi-daemon 1058	avahi-daemon 1654	wpa_supplicant 9119	NetworkManager 9136	dhclient Process with PID 9136 (dhclient) is running on interface eth1
[04:04] <crackerjackz> i love you all - been getting help on freenode for years thank you all... much love from roanoke virginia
[04:04] <wibbit2> im guessing kill off networkmanager
[04:04] <wibbit2> any others appear to be setting it to channel -1?
[04:04] <lidar> wibbit2 kill all of them
[04:04] <wibbit2> alright thanks
[04:07] <wibbit2> that failed they all just all reloaded
[04:07] <lidar> those dirty buggers
[04:08] <lidar> might be able to use the init scripts to kill them /etc/init.d/scrept stop
[04:09] <lidar> could do it the angry way .. apt-get remove .. but it would be hard to get back online
[04:17] <sam_> hey how can i restore ubuntu 12.04 to factory default. without reinstalling it. I want all the softwares and other things gone
[04:17] <viewer> i was trying to change my grub menu order with grub-customizer and ended up getting stuck at a grub shell, even when I plug in my installer thumdrive.  how can i...hook it back up...?
[04:18] <lidar> viewer, boot from thumbdrive and use boot repair
[04:18] <wilee-nilee> viewer, Do you know how to reload grub to the mbr?
[04:18] <lidar> sam_, you probably just need to make a new user account
[04:19] <sam_> is it possible to make a thumb drive in a small partition in my pc. I mean like recovery partition for ubuntu
[04:19] <lidar> sam_, try out unetbootin
[04:19] <mahapatrasworoop> hello all :)
[04:20] <sam_> ok thanks lindar
[04:20] <lidar> sam_, i beleive it can install the .iso image to a harddrive ..
[04:20] <lidar> sam_, in your case to a partition on the harddrive
[04:20] <viewer> wilee-nilee, , not manually, i did try booting the thumbdrive but it went to the same prompt and just lists and extra hd in ls
[04:20] <mahapatrasworoop> lidar, unetbootin only allows for making a bootable USB disk
[04:20] <mahapatrasworoop> i think :P
[04:21] <sam_> so how can ichoose between windows recovery partition and ubuntu partion . I use alt+F12 re install windows
[04:21] <lidar> mahapatrasworoop, yeah could possibly use it to make the usb stick .. then use dd to copy that to a partititon
[04:21] <sam_> should i use the same for ubuntu
[04:22] <viewer> i cant even get a list of commands because when i type help it scrolls them all up, and I cant use |more or |less
[04:22] <lidar> sam_, do you want to keep windows ?
[04:22] <wilee-nilee> viewer, This was from the boot from menu outside of the bios?
[04:22] <mahapatrasworoop> it would ask to format that drive.. sam_, possible loss of data
[04:22] <sam_> yep I need my win7
[04:22] <sam_> for auto cad
[04:23] <mahapatrasworoop> install ubuntu and use w7 on vbox?
[04:23] <mahapatrasworoop> autocad can also be installed on a linux PC
[04:23] <mahapatrasworoop> using Wine
[04:23] <lidar> p
[04:23] <viewer> "outside" of the bios?  it comes right after the the bios screen shows at boot
[04:24] <sam_> really I never knew wine is that strong to install such a complex software on it!!
[04:24] <mahapatrasworoop> it wasn't
[04:24] <mahapatrasworoop> but now  it can :)
[04:24] <lidar> sam_, use virtualbox ..
[04:24] <mahapatrasworoop> virtualbox is your best option..
[04:24] <eric> whats going on
[04:24] <sam_> ok lidar . im installing vbox
[04:25] <mahapatrasworoop> do you want to dual-boot sam_?
[04:25] <sam_> I have dual boot
[04:25] <mahapatrasworoop> u just need a recovery for Ubuntu?
[04:25] <lidar> sam_, you dont have too .. i dual boot it works well /sda1 recovery sda2 is some 100mb acer thing sda3 is windows7 .. then a logical partion /sda4 and /swap for ubuntu
[04:25] <Guest61087> yall try out my irc server 173.185.246.81 port 6667
[04:25] <sam_> yep maha
[04:26] <mahapatrasworoop> hello Guest61087
[04:26] <viewer> wilee-nilee, oh i misread you, yes it takes me to this grub prompt no matter which one i directly choose to boot from at the bios screen
[04:26] <Guest61087> whats up
[04:26] <mahapatrasworoop> what is the server for? IRC chat on topic?
[04:26] <crimsonmane> Guest61087: what is the purpose of your IRC server?
[04:26] <mahapatrasworoop> sam_ then first try lidar's method of unetbootin
[04:26] <lidar> Guest61087, is there free porn or food involved ?
[04:26] <mahapatrasworoop> then use VB
[04:26] <Guest61087> I installed it as a beer and wine irc
[04:26] <mahapatrasworoop> Lidar, LOL
[04:27] <sam_> how much swap is good i got 6gig
[04:27] <sam_> ok maha
[04:27] <mahapatrasworoop> 4 is more than enuf i suppose
[04:27] <crimsonmane> Guest61087: i see no reason to use your server if my objective is met on this one.
[04:27] <Guest61087> thats ok
[04:27] <mahapatrasworoop> i hv been running on 4gigs since 2 yrs
[04:28] <sam_> thanks lidar and maha Im leaving
[04:28] <mahapatrasworoop> k :)
[04:28] <mahapatrasworoop> bye
[04:29] <lidar> Guest61087, it says server load is too heavy .. did your irc just call me fat ?
[04:29] <Guest61087> I don't think so
[04:30] <Guest61087> humm, I wounder why it would have to much load, I'm the only one on it
[04:31] <lidar> just you and me in #beer
[04:32] <ananzaa> Is any way to install ubuntu from livecd without using ubiquity??
[04:32] <ananzaa> Is there*
[04:32] <mahapatrasworoop> ananzaa u cn boot from your livecd
[04:34] <crimsonmane> ananzaa: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[04:35] <ananzaa> I'm already in live cd. Thing is I formatted my linux partition and grub was on it too so now I don't have a bootloader installed so I can't reboot. Ubiquity crashes so I'm looking for an alternative.
[04:35] <ananzaa> @crimsonmane I don't have a bootloader so I can't reboot
[04:35] <crimsonmane> ananzaa: what?
[04:35] <mahapatrasworoop> @ananza which live cd do you have
[04:36] <ananzaa> ubuntu 10.04
[04:36] <crimsonmane> ananzaa: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[04:36] <crimsonmane> dummy
[04:36] <ananzaa> crimsonmane: I can't reboot so how is alternative cd going to help me?
[04:37] <crimsonmane> ananzaa: you're confused as to what your problem is.
[04:37] <lidar> crimsonmane, thats an understatement
[04:37] <mahapatrasworoop> crimsonmane: let handle the problem cooly bro :)
[04:38] <crimsonmane> Rule Number 1 When Asking For Help: Admit you don't know.
[04:38] <mahapatrasworoop> ananza u can reboot using your reset button on desktop or the powerbutton on the laptop
[04:38] <david__>  hello all. Is synaptic installed in Ubuntu 12.04 by deafault ?
[04:38] <mahapatrasworoop> hello david_
[04:38] <mahapatrasworoop> no it is not installed
[04:38] <mahapatrasworoop> type sudo apt-get install synaptic
[04:38] <mahapatrasworoop> in terminal
[04:38] <david__> crazy lol. yea no problem
[04:38] <david__> thanks
[04:38] <mahapatrasworoop> wlcm
[04:39] <rich_> hello
[04:39] <ananzaa> ok I might be a noob to linux/unix but I'm not that noob to not know how to restart. The problem is I uninstalled GRUB, so when I reboot I'll probably have an operating system not found error or something
[04:39] <mahapatrasworoop> no u won;t
[04:39] <mahapatrasworoop> just boot from your live cd
[04:40] <mahapatrasworoop> using BIOS menu select boot from DVD/CD Drive
[04:40] <mahapatrasworoop> u will boot into your live cd
[04:40] <mahapatrasworoop> then install from there
[04:40] <ananzaa> My CD-Rom is broken so I'm booting from harddrive
[04:40] <rich_> how do i know what version of ubuntu i am using? 12.04 or 12.04.1
[04:42] <rich_> how do i know what version of ubuntu i am using? 12.04 or 12.04.1?
[04:42] <phax> Hi guys, how do I troubleshoot the gdm service not starting properly. Everytime I boot on F8 there kubuntu logo is showing with the image changing as if it will move to a next screen but it is stuck there. And I start gdm from a shell session with service gdm start. Can you please advise how to go about fixing this.
[04:42] <WeThePeople> rich_ 'lsb_release -a'
[04:42] <Tynach> Hello, world! I'm having an odd issue with my laptop.
[04:42] <rich_> thank you wethepeople
[04:43] <Tynach> I recently installed KDE, but I wanted to keep LightDM as the default display manager. However, no matter what I do, it keeps using KDM.
[04:43] <Tynach> I have tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[04:43] <Tynach> And the same with lightdm.
[04:43] <Tynach> And both right after each other.
[04:43] <Tynach> But nothing's working.
[04:43] <WeThePeople> np
[04:43] <Tynach> Every time I boot up, it uses KDM.
[04:43] <a_Grey_Hat> nautilus
[04:43] <a_Grey_Hat> Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyInvalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyInvalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyInvalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keyCould not parse arguments: Cannot open display:
[04:44] <mahapatrasworoop> ananza reply to the pvt msg
[04:44] <a_Grey_Hat> via ssh -X
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> a_Grey_Hat: i got same on opening firefox on sux
[04:44] <rich_> has anyone got itunes to work on ubuntu? lol
[04:45] <wan26> A while ago with wine, but got rid of wine
[04:45] <lotuspsychje> a_Grey_Hat:i dont think its an error
[04:45] <a_Grey_Hat> i used to be able to connect when i was useing ubuntu to ubuntu or mac to ubuntu, but im on arch now and this is the error i get
[04:45] <Tynach> lotuspsychje, looks like an error to me. Especially with "Cannot open display". But I don't know how to debug that. I've SSH -X'd a few times, but never had problems.
[04:45] <WeThePeople> anybody know of a cool lookin terminal emulator
[04:46] <a_Grey_Hat> WeThePeople terminator, boayo or somthing like that
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> a_Grey_Hat: do you ssh to another user maybe?
[04:46] <a_Grey_Hat> im root to root
[04:46] <a_Grey_Hat> or user name to username
[04:47] <a_Grey_Hat> they both do that error
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> !info sux | a_Grey_Hat
[04:47] <a_Grey_Hat> its my local server im connecting to
[04:48] <david__> hey just installed chromium under synaptic and notice bad integration with the close, minimize and maximize window buttons
[04:48] <OmegaPex> exit
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> a_Grey_Hat: i think its like an X limit for security or something, i got same warnings on sux
[04:48] <matts45acp> can someone here tell me if a firewall in ubuntu is necessary when using something like a hotels wifi?
[04:48] <david__> since chromium has its own buttons and when I full screen i also get the ubuntu buttons as well
[04:49] <Tynach> a_Grey_Hat, I will say you should probably ask the Arch Linux guys. Also, their wiki is one of the most well documented wikis out there; I go to it for a lot of things, even though I've never used Arch.
[04:49] <Tynach> But does anyone have any ideas about my kdm/lightdm issue?
[04:50] <a_Grey_Hat> Tynach lotuspsychje   dudes i installed sux on arch and then ssh -X logged in then ran gedit an its working
[04:50] <a_Grey_Hat> i guess it was something fishing
[04:50] <a_Grey_Hat> lol
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> Tynach: did you enable auto login?
[04:50] <Tynach> lotuspsychje, no, I always type my password to log in.
[04:51] <Tynach> For a good reason too.
[04:51] <Tynach> But it keeps booting up with the KDM login screen.
[04:51] <Tynach> But I want it to use LightDM.
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> Tynach:did you install unity?
[04:51] <Tynach> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm/kdm doesn't work.
[04:51] <Tynach> lotuspsychje, Unity was there by default.
[04:51] <Tynach> KDE is what I installed.
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> ic
[04:52] <Tynach> I'm looking through the rc.d folders, and don't see EITHER of them being used or triggered :/
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> Tynach: i had same on lubuntu-desktop, so i had to logout and choose back autologin unity
[04:52] <lidar> Tynach, apt-get remove kdm
[04:53] <Tynach> lidar, removing KDM is a bit extreme, but I suppose I could do that. lotuspsychje, that doesn't even make sense.
[04:54] <T_H_X> Tynach: maybe check out X11/default-display-manager
[04:54] <T_H_X> not 100% sure
[04:54] <lidar> matts45acp, do you have services running ?
[04:54] <T_H_X> in /etc
[04:55] <Tynach> T_H_X, cating default-display-manager gives "/usr/sbin/lightdm".
[04:55] <T_H_X> change it to /path/to/kdm
[04:55] <T_H_X> dontknow if it will work
[04:55] <Tynach> T_H_X, I don't want KDM to be default.
[04:56] <T_H_X> ok
[04:56] <lidar> that would suck
[04:56] <Tynach> KDM is what is running, but I want LightDM to run.
[04:56] <T_H_X> awww
[04:56] <Tynach> All indications show that LightDM should run at boot, but it's not.
[04:56] <daedaluz> Tynach when you install any window manager it should ask you which you want?
[04:56] <T_H_X> do you have /etc/init/lightdm.conf  or kdm.conf
[04:57] <Random832> How can I troubleshoot it continuing to boot to the old version of the kernel even when I uninstalled it?
[04:57] <Tynach> daedaluz, yeah, I know, and I've tried the reconfigure command.
[04:57] <Random832> I can't see the boot menu due to some monitor mode thing, and setting grub to console mode didn't fix anything
[04:58] <matts45acp> lidar, what do you mean services
[04:58] <T_H_X> Tynach: also check in /etc/init.d/kdm
[04:58] <Tynach> T_H_X, you mean /etc/init.d/kdm or lightdm? Yeah, I have both. I'm not sure what folder Ubuntu uses for the init scripts to be called depending on runtime; I don't know much about managing Upstart.
[04:58] <Random832> can someone help me with this?
[04:58] <Samizdat> I'm having serious issues with my wifi card, was wondering if it could be driver related.  Is converting an .rpm to .deb and trying that a bad idea?
[04:58] <rich_> hey guys... i seen someone using some sorta skin/effect for the terminal window... where when resizing the terminal window..the edges bounce back and forth like a spring.....  anyone know what skin/effect that is??
[04:58] <lidar> matts45acp, webserver file share vnc anything like that ?
[04:58] <Random832> rich_: just on the terminal window, not on all the windows?
[04:58] <matts45acp> no
[04:59] <lidar> rich_, compiz
[04:59] <matts45acp> lidar, no
[04:59] <T_H_X> Tynach: try update-rc.d -f kdm remove
[04:59] <rich_> i dunno.. i just seen it on the terminal window
[04:59] <gnomefreak> rich_: compiz settings IIRC
[04:59] <matts45acp> lidar, ill just be using a browser and basic stuff nothing major
[04:59] <lidar> matts45acp, there is very minimal toworry about
[04:59] <rich_> ok thank you.. i will look into that...i am extremely new to ubuntu and linux... dont know how to install skins/effects yet...lol
[05:00] <matts45acp> lidar, what about accesing my bank account on the website and stuff?
[05:00] <gnomefreak> not sdo much as install as opposded to changing options
[05:00] <Tynach> T_H_X, I remember there was a utility to view the runtime configuration (like a graphical update-rc.d), do you remember what it's called?
[05:00] <Samizdat> IS there a better way to find a wifi driver than converting a suse linux one?
[05:00] <T_H_X> Tynach: no
[05:00] <Tynach> The laptop is rebooting by the way.
[05:00] <Samizdat> The manu. offers those.
[05:00] <lidar> matts45acp, thats all way safer no problems there
[05:01] <T_H_X> Tynach; try it, you can add it back with update-rc.d kdm defaults
[05:01] <Tynach> adfasdfasdf
[05:01] <Tynach> It's still using KDM!
[05:01] <Tynach> Even after that!
[05:01] <lidar> Tynach, apt-get remove is looking better and better i bet :P
[05:01] <matts45acp> lidar, ok well what would i even need a firewall for in ubuntu anyway?
[05:01] <T_H_X> Tynach: is there a /etc/init.d/kdm.conf  .?
[05:01] <WeThePeople> rich_, system, preferences, appearance
[05:02] <lidar> matts45acp, no default kernel repsonse is disconnect
[05:02] <T_H_X> Tynach: i meant, is there a /etc/init/kdm.conf  .?
[05:02] <rich_> thank you WeThePeople... looking at it now
[05:02] <paulus68> At startup I get the following error message "The disk drive for /media/applications is not ready yet or not present Continue to wait press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery how do I solve this?
[05:02] <Tynach> T_H_X, yes.
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> isnt lightdm with unity, so removing kde would boot lightdm again?
[05:03] <T_H_X> Tynach: move it out of there
[05:03] <daedaluz> lotuspsychje: nope, even xubuntu uses lightdm
[05:03] <lidar> matts45acp, firewalls are mostly used for access control .. for instance you could make it so nobody in china could connect to your computer
[05:03] <WeThePeople> rich_, what version of ubuntu do you use
[05:04] <rich_> 12.04.1
[05:04] <matts45acp> lidar, well i dont want anyone in my computer at anytime so do you think ill need one?
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> daedaluz:ok
[05:04] <daedaluz> paulus68: it's external? what format?
[05:04] <Tynach> T_H_X, rebooting again after moving the file.
[05:04] <T_H_X> Tynach: roger roger
[05:04] <lidar> matts45acp, nope probably not
[05:04] <paulus68> daedaluz: it's an internal drive linux formatted
[05:05] <lidar> matts45acp, try out some security tools for fun .. nmap ect. ect.
[05:05] <paulus68> daedaluz: not my /root drive
[05:05] <Tynach> T_H_X, it is STILL using KDM!
[05:05] <matts45acp> lidar, ok cool, now what about windows would i need a firewall if using that on public wifi?
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> !info snort | matts45acp
[05:05] <Tynach> This doesn't make ANY sense.
[05:06] <T_H_X> Tynach: im out of ideas, id have to google now
[05:06] <lidar> matts45acp, i wouldnt suggest using windows on a secure network let alone a public one
[05:06] <a_Grey_Hat> Tynach lotuspsychje   dudes i installed sux on arch. THAT FIXED IT!
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> Tynach:wich would boot if you remove kde you think?
[05:06] <paulus68> daedaluz: If I skip the server is booting up correctly without the drive mounted ofcourse
[05:06] <a_Grey_Hat> Tynach lotuspsychje thanks
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> a_Grey_Hat:cool that its fixxed mate
[05:07] <matts45acp> lidar, ok so as long as im using ubuntu i should be good right?
[05:07] <a_Grey_Hat> i got to run sux first but that works for me
[05:07] <lidar> matts45acp, yes .. but if you open some scam scam site from an email and type your password in .. same result no matter what os you use
[05:07] <Tynach> lotuspsychje, it doesn't matter if KDE is installed. It's KDM. I'm going to try removing KDM. That'll either fix it, or make the computer unbootable.
[05:07] <daedaluz> paulus68: start by checking it is setup correctly in /etc/fstab
[05:08] <thenumb3rguy> hi
[05:08] <lidar> Tynach, worse case login then type startx :P
[05:08] <pyrrhic_> hey guys
[05:08] <thenumb3rguy> how to get postfix work with SASL-auth?
[05:08] <Tynach> Ok, it's rebooting again. Lets see how this goes.
[05:08] <Tynach> lidar, yeah, I know :P
[05:08] <paulus68> daedaluz: already did and I don't see any problems there was booting correctly previously but had a power cutt off since then I have that problem
[05:08] <lidar> Tynach, you can alwasy execute the lightdm from rc.local if all else fails
[05:09] <pyrrhic_> Anyone have experience with executable shell files? I need some help.
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> Tynach:what about a lightdm restart?
[05:09] <lidar> pyrrhic_, chmod +x foo.sh ?
[05:09] <pyrrhic_> Not like that lidar.. I know how to make it executable. I'm confused in actual code.
[05:09] <thenumb3rguy> I need some help getting postfix working with thunderbird and also smtp server with ssl auth
[05:09] <paulus68> daedaluz: drive is still available  in bios
[05:10] <wan26> that sets the perms to make it so
[05:10] <pyrrhic_> I'm trying to install League of Legends on 12.04 and a piece of the script from wineHQ is confusing me
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | pyrrhic_
[05:10] <jagginess> !wine
[05:10] <Tynach> ... Ok. It's still coming up with a KDM looking screen. Is this some sort of KDE-themed LightDM skin I didn't know I installed?
[05:10] <lidar> pyrrhic_,  no games here we are all about serious things !!!
[05:10] <pyrrhic_> Lol.
[05:10] <daedaluz> paulus68: so it's a hadware failure. can't read the disk at all? it's done for. obviously it is still visible, tho.
[05:11] <wan26> !info gufw
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> paulus68: are you using pysdm?
[05:11] <thenumb3rguy> I need some help getting postfix working with thunderbird and also smtp server with ssl auth
[05:11] <paulus68> lotuspsychje: not that I am aware off
[05:11] <lidar> thenumb3rguy, may i suggest trying out webmin ?
[05:11] <paulus68> lotuspsychje: it's on a 12.04 server
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> paulus68: i had issues on fstab with pysdm, ntfs-3g fixxed it for me
[05:12] <daedaluz> Tynach: run ps -A|grep lightdm
[05:12] <Mikness> So, my SSD is going to pot and I'd like to duplicate my OS setup on a spare HDD before sending it off to the manufacturer. I've got 12.04 imbedded in a Windows 7 NTFS (through Wubi). How can I go about this?
[05:12] <mahapatrasworoop> david_ did u try Google Chrome ( not chromium )
[05:12] <systemd0wn> Attempting to install 12.04.1 amd64 alternative but it keeps failing on software install
[05:12] <pyrrhic_> lotuspsychje: Can you pm me?
[05:13] <Tynach> daedaluz, two processes show up with that command.
[05:13] <paulus68> lotuspsychje: should I try manual recovery?
[05:13] <Tynach> So lightdm is running.
[05:13] <daedaluz> Tynach: run ps -A|grep kdm
[05:13] <Tynach> THat's what I just did.
[05:13] <Tynach> Oh.
[05:13] <Tynach> KDM.
[05:13] <Tynach> Yeah, nothing there.
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> pyrrhic_:im not really game expert, try to see if your game is on playonlinux
[05:13] <Tynach> So KDM is not running. It's a KDE theme for LightDM.
[05:13] <Tynach> I do not remember installing one :s
[05:13] <daedaluz> Tynach: yuo it's kdm-themed ightdm you are running, so all well in kingdom
[05:13] <T_H_X> lol
[05:13] <pyrrhic_> It is, but I have problems there as well. I don't want to flood the IRC or I'd just post the lines of code.
[05:14] <lidar> pyrrhic_, use pastebin
[05:14] <Tynach> daedaluz, T_H_X, thanks for your help... Now I have to figure out how to use the original Ubuntu theme (loved it, prefer it).
[05:14] <wan26> Mikness have you tried clonezilla
[05:14] <daedaluz> Tynach: something in /usr/share I think
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> paulus68:you could pastebin etc/fstab in pastebin in channel
[05:15] <Mikness> wan26, no, what's that?
[05:15] <wan26> Clones partitions or drives
[05:15] <lidar> Mikness, just use dd
[05:15] <Tynach> daedaluz, just googled, nope, it's in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[05:15] <Mikness> lidar, dd?
[05:16] <Tynach> And yep, it was set to the KDE greeter.
[05:16] <lidar> !info dd Mikness
[05:16] <wan26> yeah thats a better option
[05:16] <Tynach> Switched back to Unity greeter.
[05:16] <lidar> !info dd
[05:16] <Tynach> Rebooting to test.
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> lidar: man dd
[05:16] <Mikness> haha, k
[05:16] <lidar> ubotto fails!
[05:16] <Mikness> !dd
[05:17] <pyrrhic_> lotus: http://pastebin.com/vVJA8cgz
[05:17] <wan26> ubotto is in a mood
[05:17] <wan26> u
[05:17] <Mikness> lidar, can you explain how dd operates?
[05:17] <Tynach> daedaluz, T_H_X, it works now! Thanks for your help, and I'm sorry I was so misinformed about what was causing the problem.
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> Mikness: man dd in terminal
[05:18] <Mikness> lotuspsychje, yeah, it's not giving me too much to go on there.
[05:18] <lidar> pyrrhic_, the $scriptwd is a variable it probaly assighned as full path up above somewhere
[05:18] <paulus68> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.ca/2198140
[05:19] <a2f> Hi, having a problem with KDE where the windows pull apart randomly as if it were GNOME3 and I had moved my mouse to the upper-left corner of the screen. Anyone seen this behavior? How can I disable it?
[05:19] <systemd0wn> Question,
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> paulus68:you got ntfs drives on there?
[05:19] <systemd0wn> Is it just me or is the alt cd still broken?
[05:20] <T_H_X> dd if=/dev/sdx? | gzip > disk-backup.dd.gz
[05:20] <pyrrhic_> lidar, I posted the original article's link in that pastebin and the part i'm confused on is highlighted in yellow. I'm just unsure what it means.
[05:20] <paulus68> lotuspsychje: no
[05:20] <pyrrhic_> Also. I don't know how to "Whisper" on IRC. So please inform me if you don't mind sharing. #IRC Newb
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> paulus68: all ext4?
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> nvm
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> paulus68: try testdisk to check all your drives mate, maybe one got broke?
[05:21] <lidar> pyrrhic_, why dont you try crossover ?
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | paulus68
[05:21] <Mikness> T_H_X, is that just to create a backup file?
[05:22] <lidar> pyrrhic_, i have always had way more success with it playing games
[05:22] <T_H_X> Mikness: yes, it will create a compressed dump of you disk /dev/sda or whatever disk you want backed up
[05:24] <biohazrd> is there a quick way in aptitude to select recommended packages?
[05:24] <Mikness> T_H_X, thanks, but I'm looking to duplicate my drive so I can actually use it as an os, not just a backup
[05:24] <T_H_X> Mikness: put the disk you want to backup in another ubuntu pc. unmount the drives you want to backup first before you run dd
[05:25] <jagginess> biohazard, maybe
[05:25] <jagginess> (check the manpage)
[05:25] <biohazrd> been readind and googlin' all day. my eyes are bleending
[05:25] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:25] <jagginess> man aptitutde (rtfm!:)
[05:26] <jagginess> !aptitude
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> biohazrd:any packages you lookin for?
[05:26] <biohazrd> i forget what they were now.. it was for an update and it recommend 2 additionals on top of the 48 that i updated
[05:26] <pyrrhic_> Crossover? Because it costs?
[05:26] <jagginess> often more junk gets installed you'll never use anyways, i never have auto-selection if it were possible with recommends
[05:26] <T_H_X> Mikness:to restore it later, do the same thing but run, zcat disk-backup.dd.gz | dd of=/dev/sdc  or wherever the disk is to be restored to
[05:27] <lidar> pyrrhic_, try it free for a month
[05:27] <biohazrd> i doubt i would find what i want in the man pages anyhow.. its more to do with the user interface and how to use it.
[05:27] <Mikness> T_H_X, will that work regardless of the OS? It's just byte for byte, right?
[05:28] <T_H_X> Mikness: yes
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> i got this corrupt mouse pointer every cold boot on precise, any clue to fix?
[05:28] <pyrrhic_> lidar, it's a 7-day trial. Anywho. My main problem is not understanding the code. Would you mind taking a look into that?
[05:28] <Mikness> Thanks, T_H_X , lidar wan26 . I'll give it a shot
[05:28] <lidar> lotuspsychje, thats interesting problem
[05:28] <T_H_X> Mikness: just make sure the disk you restore to is exact same size or larger
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> lidar:i got it on few systems with ati cards, square mouse pointer
[05:29] <Mikness> T_H_X, can do. I'm going from 64GB to 750GB. I can resize partitions after?
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> lidar: a reboot makes it go away again
[05:29] <paulus68> lotuspsychje: how to use testdisk if the system didn't mount the drive to start with?
[05:30] <lidar> what about unloading and reloading the module lotuspsychje
[05:30] <lidar> the graphics one
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> lidar: ati card driver module restart?
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> lidar: ok i could try
[05:30] <paulus68> lotuspsychje: or do I startup and use testdisk in recovery mode?
[05:30] <T_H_X> Mikness: yes, should be able to resize
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> paulus68:did you try if it sees the partition?
[05:32] <lidar> lotuspsychje, what about just logging out and backin so x server restarts does that fix it or its a complete reboot that does it
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> lidar:didnt check the logout, just know every morning on cold boot it happens
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> lidar:oh it happens before login screen
[05:35] <lidar> lotuspsychje i would still try restarting x without a reboot .. if it that fixes it the problem would be higher level with the xserver .. if the logging out ect. and the box stays i would lean towards the kernel module
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> lidar: what the command to restart x
[05:36] <paulus68> lotuspsychje: it doesn't see the partition in order to boot up the server I needed to skip mounting the drive with problems
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> paulus68:maybe you should try a bootcdrom then to check hd's and enable smart in bios, check drive boot if hd shows..etc
[05:38] <lidar> hmm /etcinit.d/gdm restart used to work not sure how much the init scripts have changed recently
[05:38] <pyrrhic_> GC_DONT_GC=1 $WINEXE $scriptWD/LeagueofLegends.exe <--- What does the $WINEXE part and $scriptWD mean??!?!?!
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> lidar:isnt it lightdm restart?
[05:39] <T_H_X> pyrrhic_: WINEXE=  defines that  .. somewhere in your script
[05:39] <pyrrhic_> lotus, sudo service gdm restart.
[05:40] <pyrrhic_> T_H_X, can you review this script and figure out what I need to change... http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19141 ??
[05:40] <lidar> pyrrhic_, they are variables assigned furthur above somewhere there will be a line SCRIPTWD=/path/to/program/file.exe
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx fellas
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> im out
[05:40] <lidar> lotuspsychje, yeah could be ive out of the game for a few years :))
[05:40] <pyrrhic_> lidar, Unity still uses gnome. So it's gdm.
[05:41] <pyrrhic_> But I remember that used to work. :D
[05:42] <lidar> i remeber back in the day having to write xconfigs by hand
[05:42] <lidar>  disabled the silly guis logins so i could see error messages lol
[05:42] <T_H_X> pyrrhic_: you want to change it so its like   WINEXE=/usr/bin/wine
[05:43] <jagginess> aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh my god.. look at that it says WINEXE.. That's despicable..
[05:43] <pyrrhic_> How do you send messages like so, T_H_X ? Your name is yellow lol
[05:43] <jagginess> disgusting
[05:43] <pyrrhic_> Yes. I'm sure it's quite awful. I'm just trying to play my game though jag. =[
[05:43] <lidar> pyrrhic_,  because he typed your name ?
[05:43] <pyrrhic_> I'm such a failsauce noob at IRC. Lol I thought it was a PM.
[05:44] <T_H_X> pyrrhic_: im using your name with a colon, so your irc client highlights the message
[05:44] <pyrrhic_> Or a "Whisper"
[05:44] <T_H_X> i cant type gooder on thiss eeepc keyboard, i need some hand shrinkage
[05:44] <lidar> xchat private chats are in a diffrent tab
[05:45] <lidar> pyrrhic_, i just molested you  to check what your chatting witrh
[05:45] <pyrrhic_> Lolz
[05:45] <jnott> (ubuntu 64 bit_ does '/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lopts' imply that i need a 32 bit autogen / libopts
[05:46] <pyrrhic_> T_H_X: I understand what your saying... but I'm thinking either this script is written terribly. Or I'm just a super scrub at unix-based OS.
[05:48] <schiv> hi
[05:48] <schiv> how do i create a shortcut
[05:48] <T_H_X> pyrrhic_: that script is automated, you dont need to modify it, just run it
[05:48] <lidar> schiv, ln
[05:48] <schiv> lidar: that is a command
[05:48] <lidar> schiv, correct !
[05:48] <schiv> i do not want a command
[05:49] <Nullifi3d> ln makes a link to a file/folder
[05:49] <schiv> whatever
[05:49] <T_H_X> pyrrhic_: copy paste the script to a file and chmod +x thefie , the do ./thefile
[05:49] <Nullifi3d> which is basically a shortcut
[05:49] <schiv> i want to use ubuntu because i thought it was all graphical
[05:49] <Nullifi3d> ln is just one solution
[05:49] <schiv> i always had respect for it for being noob friendly
[05:49] <schiv> but now it is totally not noob friendly
[05:49] <lidar> schiv, there are like 5 ways of doing eveything
[05:50] <schiv> yes, ok then, what is the graphical way of creating a shortcut?
[05:50] <pyrrhic_> T_H_X: I ran it and it made another script. I ran the second one and it just stops.
[05:50] <T_H_X> schiv: just right click the icon and drag it
[05:50] <schiv> it gets copied
[05:50] <schiv> not linked
[05:50] <T_H_X> schiv: hold down shift or alt
[05:50] <T_H_X> or ctrl
[05:51] <T_H_X> cant remember which one, and i dont use a gui :(
[05:51] <lidar> gui's are for people that can multitask .. nobody here can handle them
[05:51] <killer_> how do i enable touchpad clicking in kde
[05:51] <schiv> oh god
[05:51] <T_H_X> i got ubuntu running in vbox on win7
[05:52] <lidar> schiv, have you tried alternative desktops ? lxde and xfce are very nice :P
[05:52] <schiv> lidar: that is not the point
[05:52] <schiv> the point is i cannot create a shortcut
[05:52] <schiv> what the hell is wrong with ubuntu these days?
[05:52] <wan26> right click it then choose make link lol
[05:52] <lidar> schiv, what kind of shortcut are you creating ?
[05:52] <schiv> i just want a symbolic link
[05:53] <schiv> to a folder
[05:53] <lidar> ln -s destination source
[05:53] <schiv> like i said, no commands
[05:53] <schiv> i want my mother to do that
[05:53] <schiv> i expected ubuntu would be perfect
[05:53] <pyrrhic_> T_H_X:  I ran the script, and it created another. Then I ran the second one and nothing happened. Ideas?
[05:53] <wan26> you can right click the folder and choose make link
[05:54] <T_H_X> schiv: left click and drag the icon and hold ctl shift or alt
[05:54] <T_H_X> some combo of that
[05:54] <lidar> does your mother know what you want of her schiv ?
[05:54] <T_H_X> left goof the muse buttin while holding the key
[05:54] <T_H_X> frack this keyboard. geeez
[05:54] <Mikness> T_H_X, partway through i get this: gzip: stdout: File too large
[05:54] <lidar> i think typing a comman is faster
[05:55] <schiv> forget it..one more chance
[05:55] <lidar> Mikness, thats a filesystem limitation or .. out of disk space
[05:55] <schiv> how do i drop to a virtual console?
[05:55] <schiv> i.e. init 3
[05:55] <schiv> or more precisely, telinit 3
[05:56] <Mikness> T_H_X, could I just do "dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda"
[05:56] <lidar> schiv, alt control f3 at same time
[05:56] <schiv> i want to kill the damn X server
[05:56] <schiv> not switch to a vt
[05:56] <Mikness> T_H_X, plenty of disk space. It's a 64GB drive...
[05:56] <schiv> i.e. the alt to telinit 3 for upstart
[05:56] <T_H_X> Mikness : are you copying it to an NTFS or FAT32 drive?
[05:56] <lidar> schiv, hat to be pedantic but that is easier to do from the console
[05:57] <schiv> lidar: alt control f3 switches to the third vt. i just want to "drop", i.e drop from the current runlevel to lower one
[05:58] <lidar> schiv, swith there login sudo telinit 3
[05:58] <schiv> lidar: sudo telinit 3 does not appear to work
[05:58] <schiv> lidar: the command is accepted but i am still here
[05:58] <Mikness> T_H_X, the .gz was going from a 64GB NTFS to a 1TB FAT system, but it's ultimately going to a 750G ext4 (which can be reformatted)
[05:58] <lidar> try telinit 6
[05:58] <Mikness> T_H_X, does that make sense?
[05:59] <schiv> lidar: doesn't upstart have its own way to deal with this stuff rather than runlevels?
[05:59] <T_H_X> Mikness: FAT has a 2GB file limit (i think) format it as ntfs
[05:59] <lidar> schiv, i dunno you want from soemthing simple like making a link to switching runlevels .. not sure how they are related
[05:59] <schiv> not related at all
[06:00] <schiv> just 2 things i was in need of
[06:00] <T_H_X> Mikness: 4 GB
[06:00] <lidar> schiv, while your in the vt you could always use ln to make your link
[06:01] <T_H_X> Mikness: NTFS = 16 TB MAX
[06:02] <T_H_X> Mikness: if you have pleanty of space, dont worry about using gzip, it will be heaps quicker
[06:02] <Mikness> T_H_X, i can't format the drive where I'm saving the .gz
[06:02] <T_H_X> Mikness: ok, pipe it though rar maybe
[06:02] <Mikness> T_H_X, great. So would the command look like what I posted before?
[06:02] <schiv> lidar: of course. it just appeared to me that things must be simpler in GUI in these popular GUI distributions.
[06:03] <Mikness> T_H_X, "dd if=/dev/sdb | rar | of=/dev/sda"?
[06:03] <schiv> but apparently making shortcuts outside of home where you have no permission to write but have permission to read is still not a possibility
[06:03] <lidar> schiv, the gui was created so that porn could be enjoyed on *nix .. its just now migrating toother uses
[06:04] <schiv> holy crap then it is not for my mum. she cannot know i have porn.
[06:04] <lidar> encrypt your ~/ fool !!
[06:05] <jagginess> !ops schiv
[06:05] <jagginess> that's enough schiv.. you're disturbing peaceful talk
[06:05] <schiv> you are correct
[06:05] <ekw> in grub.cfg, where it says set root='(hd0, msdos1)', what does msdos1 mean?
[06:06] <schiv> a rather funny experience with ubuntu
[06:06] <jagginess> ekw, dosmbr partition style table..
[06:06] <jagginess> ekw, if it was gpt, it would say gpt..
[06:06] <jagginess> ekw, msdos1 (the first partition table indicated from a dosmbr partition styled table)
[06:06] <ekw> in the legacy grub, what would it be?  e.g. (hd0, ?)
[06:06] <jagginess> ekw, i dont think grub1 understand gpt
[06:07] <jagginess> ekw, that's why msdos and gpt would show up respective for either a dosmbr or gpt partition table drive
[06:07] <pilgrim> list
[06:07] <jagginess> ekw, (for grub2)
[06:08] <ekw> jagginess: if i wanted to convert (hd0, msdos1) in grub2 to grub1-speak, what would it be?  does that make sense to even ask?
[06:08] <jagginess> ekw, grub1 understand dosmbr.. but no need to um downgrade
[06:08] <lidar_> wb me
[06:08] <Pyrrhic> wb :P
[06:09] <lidar_> gotta love high quality hotel internet conenctions!
[06:09] <ekw> jagginess: I want to make an equivalent menu.lst from the grub.cfg, because I want to run ubuntu under xen.  and some config tools in xen only understands menu.lst from grub1
[06:09] <jagginess> ekw, just use the "grub2"-- if another distro is installed on your machine that doesnt use grub2 that's fine, just get back grub2, and run update-grub2 (which updates grub.cfg, scans drive-- and a new boot entry can be added to that new OS)
[06:10] <ekw> jagginess: namely, pygrub
[06:10] <Pyrrhic> I really wish I knew more about scripting..
[06:11] <[deXter]> Pyrrhic, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scripting_language
[06:11] <LarsN> Pyrrhic: scripting is overrated, just type faster ;)
[06:11]  * LarsN kids
[06:11] <[deXter]> There you go, now you know more. Wish granted!
[06:11] <lidar_> Pyrrhic, /exec -o uptime
[06:11] <lidar_> omg someone logged in as root \:O
[06:12] <sidvee> Not sure whether I should be making this query here or not but allow me. I started using linux with ubuntu 2 months back. I just tried linux mint. When I apt-get there it connected to ubuntu repos. Is it something normal? Doesn't linux mint has its own repos?
[06:12]  * LarsN can't remember the last time he was root.
[06:12] <jagginess> !mint
[06:12] <jagginess> ^ (sorry wrong channel)
[06:12] <King_Cobra> wish i had a philly cheese steak hogie....can you grant my wish?
[06:12] <sidvee> jagginess: Sorry! :(
[06:12] <lidar_> sounds like they are too cheap to run there own mirrors
[06:13] <jagginess> I've seen many cheap distros come and go, and I bet mint is one of them (sorry for you mint users, but this is my true feelings about it)
[06:13] <Pyrrhic> The troll is in session.
[06:13] <Pyrrhic> I'm using Ubuntu, trying to get League of Retards working.
[06:13] <sun> hi all
[06:13] <Pyrrhic> Legends*
[06:14] <jagginess> Pyrrhic, the white house?
[06:14] <Pyrrhic> :3
[06:14] <lidar_> oi cant belevie the rpm distros are still around it amazes me they exist
[06:14] <jagginess> Pyrrhic, thought you were saying you were trying to get politicians to start adopting linux
[06:15] <chinmaya_n> I 've two connections. One lan which does not have internet but connects systems and another on wifi for internet connectivity. My ubuntu is trying to get internet from the lan conection rather than the wifi! So, i could not use my internet :( helpme to tel ubuntu to use wifi
[06:16] <Pyrrhic> Jagginess, can you assist me sir?
[06:16] <jagginess> chinmaya_n, pull the ethernet cord
[06:16] <Mikness> T_H_X, sorry, logged. I'm still somewhat of a noob. Is that what you meant by 'piping it through rar'?
[06:16] <jagginess> Pyrrhic, "League of Retards" .. I can't help much with that
[06:17] <jagginess> choose wise words..
[06:17] <lidar_> Mikness, | <--is a pipe
[06:17] <Pyrrhic> "League of Legends"
[06:17] <jagginess> Pyrrhic, is this wine? I never liked wine.. (I think it sux)
[06:17] <Pyrrhic> Yes. :(
[06:17] <Mikness> lidar_, yep, know that. I was wondering what T_H_X meant by piping dd through rar
[06:17] <Pyrrhic> jagginess, I just need to change a few things in a script and it will be going smoothly.
[06:18] <Walther> Mikness: what is your goal? piping dd through rar is a command line task and might be overly complicated
[06:18] <King_Cobra> does this mean i dont get my philly cheese steak?
[06:18] <lidar_> Mikness, dd blah | rar> outfile.rar
[06:18] <thelionroars> !status
[06:18] <Walther> lidar_: mind you, dd is a dangerous tool for someone who has little knowledge
[06:19] <jagginess> Walther, yuppy ! XD
[06:19] <Walther> Mikness: so, what is your current problem
[06:19] <Walther> I will give you instructions to an easier and possibly safer way if I can
[06:19] <lidar_> Walther, he has been training for like 2 hours on it now
[06:19] <Mikness> ...
[06:19] <Pyrrhic> jagginess, mind if I PM you?
[06:19] <jagginess> Mikness, he was just trying to confuse you. You never heard of dd, you shouldn't use it.
[06:19] <jagginess> Pyrrhic, #wine
[06:20] <Walther> Mikness: I know this might be frustrating. But some people on this channel do things their way, and it is perfectly fine, but for a beginner, other ways can be easier/better/safer
[06:20] <Mikness> need to duplicate my current drive
[06:21] <jagginess> Mikness, that is never easy..
[06:21] <Walther> Do you need it duplicated onto another drive, or just a backup archive file like .rar or .zip?
[06:21] <jagginess> Mikness, best bet is not to touch the source, and check out clonezilla.org
[06:22] <jagginess> (as meaning, not altering the source while cloning, but just reading the source is fine)
[06:22] <chinmaya_n> Can some one tel me how for the previous question i asked! (My irc just got quit accidentally)
[06:22] <Mikness> lidar_, it'd probably not take 2 hours if someone just explained things upfront instead of sending me to a man page that doesn't have much info
[06:22] <wan26> lol
[06:23] <lidar_> Mikness, you did fine .. your problem was the file system limitations
[06:23] <Blue1> Mikness: just popped in - for a physical copy -- use dd for a logical copy rsync
[06:23] <jagginess> Mikness, cloning a drive is never easy.. so it can't be explained quickly
[06:24] <Mikness> so, I'm dual-booting Win7/12.04 on a (possibly) shot 64GB SSD. Want to duplicate it on a 750GB HDD.
[06:24] <jagginess> Mikness, this stuff is often more trial and error than you think.. so it's very risky if you're not careful
[06:24] <Mikness> alright
[06:24] <Blue1> milkshake_: what jagginess said
[06:24] <lidar_> Mikness tried copying creating a 20gig file on a fat32 drive
[06:24] <jagginess> Mikness, adding MSWin in the mix makes it even more difficult.. MsWin uses "protection" schemes to defend illegal copies of itself..
[06:24] <sam_> oh man i changed my admin user to standard user by mistake now i can use sudo command :( somebody help me
[06:25] <Mikness> right
[06:25] <Mikness> thanks
[06:25] <sam_> *cant use sudo anymore
[06:25] <Walther> Another question, Mikness could you make a folder called backup on the big hdd, open the ssd and just plain copy the files?
[06:25] <Blue1> sam_: just a sec
[06:25] <Pyrrhic> jagginess, seriously can you help me please?
[06:25] <Walther> If the SSD still *works* even to the extent you can read its contents, you could try
[06:25] <Walther> Sometimes the simplest solution can be eficient
[06:26] <Blue1> sam_: http://pkill-9.com/how-to-easily-do-sudo-in-debian/
[06:26] <Mikness> I've got all my files backed up, so I'm good there. I'd just like to run off of something while the SSD heads back to the manufacutrer
[06:26] <T_H_X> Mikness: something like....   dd if=/dev/sdb | gzip | split -b 1900m - disk-dump.dd.gz_
[06:27] <lidar_> sam_, you might have to use single user mode to password root .. then fix it
[06:27] <King_Cobra> sam?
[06:27] <sam_> how  to log in to single user
[06:27] <Mikness> T_H_X, send that to my backup drive?
[06:27] <Blue1> lidar_: if so is just broke, my recipe should work -- if not then yup single user init 1 iirc is single user
[06:28] <jagginess> Mikness, better to just install things from scratch.. mswin uses something for the "trim" function of ssd drives.. and so does linux-- the SSD drive would be more organized than if you did a flat byte-to-byte copy from a non-ssd drive
[06:28] <T_H_X> Mikness: yes .. dd if=/dev/sdb | gzip | split -b 1900m - /media/mounted-fat/disk-dump.dd.gz_
[06:29] <Mikness> jagginess, k, I see what you're saying
[06:29] <lidar_> that drive wont usable so to speak it will just be a backup
[06:29] <jagginess> Mikness, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIM
[06:29] <T_H_X> Mikness: it'll make a unch of 1900mb files like, disk-dump.dd.gz_aaa , disk-dump.dd.gz_aab .. and so on
[06:29] <lidar_> Mikness, maybe purchasing an external harddrive would be benificial
[06:30] <Blue1> :-)
[06:30] <Mikness> lidar_, yep, got one
[06:30] <IlikeMoose> Mikness: is your SSD hosed?
[06:31] <Mikness> IlikeMoose, I'm not sure. Every test I run doesn't show anything broke. So I figured if I could recreate my filesystems on a spare HD and nothing f'd up, then it's probably gone
[06:31] <jagginess> Mikness, ssd is meant for speed, so you may not get the optimal result, and you'd be safer if you started from scratch with the drive
[06:31] <sam_> I cant log in to single user mode
[06:31] <sam_> hey lindar
[06:31] <ebolla> ubuntu 12.04.  Screen froze on a youtube video.  I pressed CTRL-ALT-F1 and now it is stuck with shell logon.  IE no GUI.  How can I bring back the GUI?
[06:31] <Mikness> lidar_, thanks for the idea, but I'm just looking to use one of my spare HD's for a short while
[06:32] <lidar_> ebolla, alt control f7
[06:32] <ebolla> lidar: Thank you
[06:32] <jagginess> Mikness, funny, i thought you were trying to clone a mechanical HD to SSD, now it sounds vice-versa
[06:32] <lidar_> sam_, is lindar the same as lidar ?
[06:32] <Mikness> jagginess, k, I'd like to try T_H_X 's idea, but I'm not sure
[06:32] <sam_> yep sorry
[06:32] <Mikness> jagginess, doesn't sound like I'll break anything,
[06:33] <Mikness> jagginess, yep, that's the idea. SSD to HD.
[06:33] <lidar_> Mikness, T_H_X has given you good advice .. but that data wont be accessable
[06:33] <ebolla> lidar_:  That didn't bring up the GUI.  Just the startup info
[06:33] <lidar_> ebolla, try f8
[06:33] <Mikness> lidar_, why not? because it's gzip'd?
[06:33] <jagginess> lidar_, actually it would be.. there's a way to mount an image's partition table with losetup
[06:33] <jagginess> (oh ya it's split)
[06:33] <lidar_> jagginess, with it all split into 2 gig files
[06:34] <lidar_> *not
[06:34] <ebolla> lidar_:  kk will try it soon as the system is back up.  For some reason it failed to load the driver for the raid controller /sigh
[06:34] <jagginess> he can always dump it into 1 massive file uncompressed if he wants to
[06:34] <jagginess> lol
[06:34] <Mikness> jagginess, so you're suggesting I should just install from disk?
[06:34] <T_H_X> not on FAT
[06:34] <jagginess> cat /dev/<SSD>  >  ~/mybackupssd.img
[06:35] <lidar_> he must have an extensive porn collection to be working this hard to back it up
[06:35] <Mikness> jagginess, I've got the room for it, but as T_H_X said, my FAT system won't allow it
[06:35] <Mikness> hahahah!
[06:35] <jagginess> fat32 no, it has 4gig limitations for files
[06:35] <lidar_> id be like screw it i can download it again
[06:35] <T_H_X> yea 4giggety
[06:35] <Walther> Mikness: I would somewhat agree with the others - if you have your data backed up, you should do a clean install later
[06:35]  * jagginess uses RAID1 at minimum for any of his desktops
[06:36] <ebolla> lidar_:  Not sure what happened but that second reboot brought back the gui as well
[06:36] <lidar_> ebolla, if your x server doesnt run then that wont get help you .. you will need to login at the shell and then startx
[06:36] <Mikness> I just don't want to try to re-set all of my settings for my OSs. It's been a b**** getting them the way I like 'em
[06:36] <Walther> Mikness: to bit-perfect copy a system is never easy, and especially if you split the files, think about how hard it will be to recover those files :P
[06:36] <jagginess> Mikness, did you try making a new user?
[06:36] <ebolla> jagginess: I prefer R0 for desktops since they don't hold anything on them.
[06:36] <Mikness> Walther, I think I'm leaning that way
[06:36] <ebolla> lidar_:  do I just type startx to restart the gui?
[06:37] <Mikness> jagginess, what would that do?
[06:37] <T_H_X> easy if you know how
[06:37] <jagginess> Mikness, maybe it's your gnome settings/unity (there's alot of breakage if you try to tinker with lightdm or unity or advanced desktop settings)
[06:37] <lidar_> ebolla, if you login the shell .. you can startx to start the desktop .. or startx -- :2 to start a second one
[06:37] <Mikness> jagginess, I'm getting freezing when using this one drive.
[06:37] <ebolla> lidar_:  So just type startx correct?  or sudo startx?
[06:38] <jagginess> Mikness, with only the same user?
[06:38] <lidar_> just startx
[06:38] <Pyrrhic> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19141
[06:38] <Pyrrhic>    # if you have the web-based installer (about 2MiB), use this
[06:38] <Pyrrhic>     GC_DONT_GC=1 $WINEXE $scriptWD/LeagueofLegends.exe
[06:38] <Pyrrhic>     # if you are not using the web-based installer comment the previous line.
[06:38] <jagginess> Mikness, freezing is common if you tinker (trust me I use 12.04)
[06:38] <ebolla> lidar_:  alright thank you.  I appreciate it.  You happen to have any experience with Highpoint RocketRaid controllers?
[06:38] <Pyrrhic> What do I need to change for the GC_DONT_GC and $WINEXE stuff?
[06:38] <jagginess> Mikness, if you create a brand new user, see if you get freezes
[06:38] <lidar_> no sure dont
[06:38] <Mikness> jagginess, I figured if I was able to mimic the system on another drive and I still had errors, it was the system and not the drive, and I wouldn't have to send it in
[06:38] <ebolla> lidar_: kk ty
[06:39] <lidar_> Pyrrhic, a # is how you comment a line out ..
[06:39] <Mikness> jagginess, I'm getting freezing in Windows 7, too
[06:39] <pheonixman> hi guys, i am facing a problem with my USB drive. Using Gparted i formated my USB to FAT32, after formatting it Ubuntu 10.10 does not mount it. If i try to mount it manually it mounts but i am not able to create any new folder (in short i loose all permission), i dont know whats happening here, if anyone can help me out
[06:39] <Pyrrhic> lidar_: I know that. I know I need to change values.. but don't know what's relative.
[06:39] <lidar_> Pyrrhic, if a # is at the front of a line the interpator just skips that line
[06:39] <Walther> pheonixman: Do you have any files on it?
[06:39] <jagginess> Mikness, that doesnt sound good
[06:39] <Pyrrhic> lidar_:Yes I understand that.
[06:39] <pheonixman> Walther, nope
[06:40] <pheonixman> empty USB thumb drive
[06:40] <Walther> pheonixman: okay, then there's an easy way :)
[06:40] <Walther> pheonixman: open up Startup disk creator
[06:40] <pheonixman> ok
[06:40] <jagginess> Mikness, you should check in "dmesg<enter>" and see if there's any resets (or past logs in either linux/and ahem *cough winbloze)
[06:40] <Walther> pheonixman: in the bottom there should be your drive visible
[06:40] <Mikness> jagginess, yeah, changing users would only determine if it's an Ubuntu thing
[06:40] <pheonixman> ok
[06:40] <Walther> pheonixman: ...and there's the option to erase it
[06:40] <lidar_> change the GC_DONT_GC=1 to a 0 1 is true 0 is false and try that
[06:40] <pheonixman> ok
[06:41] <Walther> pheonixman: startup disk creator is pretty reliable when it comes to formatting, I'm not sure why
[06:41] <Walther> pheonixman: but that should work
[06:41] <pheonixman> Walther, i will try and let u know..wait for 5 mins
[06:41] <Mikness> jagginess, wowza. What am I looking for here?
[06:41] <jagginess> Mikness, when a device is poorly connected in linux it would say "reset" of a particular drive's connection.. (i got this once in the past, and plugged in more snuggly a loose cable)
[06:42] <Mikness> jagginess, cables are fine. When I freeze there's a ton of I/O errors
[06:42] <jagginess> Mikness, does it say 'reset' ? (dmesg)
[06:42] <pheonixman> Walther, Erase disk is giving me error "org.freedesktop.UDisks.Error.Inhibited: Daemon is inhibited"
[06:42] <lidar_> Mikness, dmesg | grep -i reset
[06:43] <Walther> pheonixman: ...huh
[06:43] <Walther> I have no idea what is going on
[06:43] <jagginess> Mikness, there's past logs, /var/logs/syslog*.log
[06:43] <T_H_X> Mikness: you might want to skip gzipping it, i think the split will break gunzip or zcat when trying to recover
[06:43] <pheonixman> Walther, me too..have wasted a day trying to figure it out
[06:43] <Walther> pheonixman: which version of Ubuntu are you runnning?
[06:43] <Pyrrhic> lidar_: Is there a screen sharing program that works well on ubuntu and whatever distro you're on?
[06:44] <lidar_> Pyrrhic, vnc
[06:44] <pheonixman> Walther, 10.10
[06:44] <Walther> pheonixman: you might want to consider upgrading - there might be some unfixed bugs around
[06:44] <Pyrrhic> lidar_: how would i set one up
[06:44] <T_H_X> Mikness: you wuould need to rejoin them all as 1 file before dd the file.. if its compressed
[06:44] <lidar_> Pyrrhic, i think there is some sort of desktop share thing built in .. i havent used it for long while
[06:45] <pheonixman> Walther, the USB was getting detected properly until i formatted it using GParted.
[06:45] <Walther> pheonixman: you could always try formatting it again with gparted
[06:45] <Pyrrhic> lidar_: I'm sorry if I'm annoying you. just wanting to figure this out.
[06:45] <pheonixman> Walther, USB is 8GB Sandisk Blade Cruzer
[06:45] <pheonixman> Walther, tried that too
[06:45] <Walther> pheonixman: create a new partition table on it
[06:46] <Walther> pheonixman: there's an option for it in gparted, upper left corner iirc
[06:46] <pheonixman> Walther, how to do that?
[06:46] <lidar_> Pyrrhic, its all good i havent been on irc for like 4 years i have alot of cathing up to do !
[06:46] <Walther> it should be a nice big button
[06:46] <Walther> it lets you start from the beginning
[06:46] <Walther> as in, beginning of the drive format :P
[06:46] <Walther> creates all the important files again
[06:46] <Walther> well "files", not technically, but, yeah
[06:47] <jagginess> lidar_, I've actually been speaking to your wife for 4 years, and have gone way beyond irc :)
[06:47] <T_H_X> Mikness: dd if=/dev/sdx | split -b 3900m - /media/mounted-fat/disk-dump.dd_
[06:47] <jagginess> jk
[06:47] <Mikness> jagginess, not sure on the 'reset': http://paste.ubuntu.com/1167583/
[06:47] <lidar_> no wonder she has been so happy last few years thanks :D
[06:48] <jagginess> what? lol
[06:48] <Mikness> jagginess, that was for 'dmesg'
[06:49] <jagginess> Mikness, maybe it's possible to use rsyslog, or something of a system log to send over the "network" :/
[06:49] <Pyrrhic> lidar_: Setting up a VNC server right now if you don't mind helping.
[06:49] <Mikness> T_H_X, did you cut off the end of your message? is the .gz missing?
[06:49] <jagginess> Mikness, (provided you know how to set it up and have a second machine receiving the log)
[06:49] <jagginess> Mikness, or it's possible it was able to capture it on past logs in /var/logs/syslog*?
[06:49] <lidar_> Mikness, tail -f /var/log/syslog in a xterm it will scroll the messages as they happen
[06:49] <Mikness> jagginess, bash: cd: /var/logs: No such file or directory
[06:50] <T_H_X> Mikness: for fname in /media/mounted-fat/disk-dump.dd_*; do cat $fname; done | dd of=/dev/sdx
[06:50] <pheonixman> Walther, "Gparted->Device->Create New Partition Table" right
[06:50] <jagginess> Mikness, there ought to be rotations of syslog somewhere in /var/log..
[06:50] <pheonixman> i created that
[06:50] <pheonixman> after that i formatted to FAT32
[06:50] <Mikness> thanks guys, I'm tryin' to keep up :)
[06:50] <Walther> pheonixman: nice.
[06:51] <Walther> pheonixman: then apply all actions and see what happens
[06:51] <pheonixman> and then i went to Startup created Disk
[06:51] <Walther> you don't need that
[06:51] <pheonixman> and said Earse disk
[06:51] <jagginess> Mikness, but what ssd drive is this (unfortunately hw makers are lazy and provide .exe only diag tools)
[06:51] <Mikness> jagginess, I've got syslog, syslog.1, then syslog.2.gz-7.gz
[06:51] <pheonixman> this time it didn't throw any error
[06:51] <Walther> pheonixman: nice, should work
[06:51] <Mikness> jagginess, don't have a second machine
[06:51] <jagginess> Mikness, maybe syslog.1, btw..
[06:52] <cristian_c> Hi
[06:52] <jagginess> Mikness, what model is it?
[06:52] <pheonixman> but, when i connected the usb drive by first removing it from the slot and then inserting it again, the its not getting mounted
[06:52]  * jagginess has seen firmware updates for harddrives
[06:52] <Mikness> lidar_, thanks!
[06:52]  * jagginess -- (ssd too)
[06:53] <pheonixman> Walther, manually its getting mounted
[06:53] <lidar_> firmware updates almost always do soemthing awesome
[06:53] <T_H_X> i thought my ssd was dying, but its just crap
[06:53] <pheonixman> Walther, but i am not able to create any folder on it
[06:53] <Mikness> jagginess, finally caught up! It's a Crucial M4SSD2.5
[06:53] <pheonixman> Walther, actually i need to create Startup disk on it
[06:53] <Walther> pheonixman: no
[06:53] <T_H_X> did an alignment check and all that jazz
[06:53] <Walther> pheonixman: or do you?
[06:54] <pheonixman> Walther, sorry i didn't get u
[06:54] <Walther> pheonixman: as in, do you actually need a startup disk?
[06:54] <cristian_c> I've installed easy-deb with virtualenv. If I try to look for applications installed in the virtual environment (with the yolk -l command), I don't find easy-deb in  the output list. But instead, I find some applications that I've not installed inside the virtual environment, but outside
[06:54] <Walther> pheonixman: if you don't, you don't have to do that
[06:54] <cristian_c> How is it possibile?
[06:54] <pheonixman> Walther, i need to create a start up disk
[06:54] <pheonixman> on my usb drive
[06:54] <Walther> pheonixman: ah, then try using the startup disk creator
[06:54] <pheonixman> yeah..i am trying it
[06:55] <cristian_c> Do ypu know something about?
[06:55] <pheonixman> but it gives me error
[06:55] <cristian_c> *you
[06:55] <Walther> what kind of error?
[06:55] <pheonixman> wait i will tell u the excat error
[06:55] <jagginess> Mikness, couple months ago a new firmware update was released for your drive ( http://www.crucial.com/help/ssd/index.aspx?source=web )
[06:56] <Mikness> jagginess, sigh. Thanks!
[06:56] <lidar_> look at jagginess go he might of just fixed it
[06:56] <Mikness> I'm about 70% sure he did...
[06:56] <Mikness> what version?
[06:56] <Fudge> hi, ssh'd to a friends laptop with 12.04 on it, have to alsactl init to load the intel hda driver, is there  a kernel module i can put in/etc/modules to laod on boot?
[06:56] <jagginess> Mikness, 000f
[06:56] <Mikness> <pounds head against keyboard>
[06:56] <jagginess> Mikness, "Improved throughput stability under extremely heavy workloads.", "Improved data protection in the event of unexpected, asynchronous power loss."
[06:56] <lidar_> Fudge, put that command in rc.local
[06:56] <pheonixman> Walther, "An uncaught exception was raised:
[06:56] <pheonixman> [Errno 13] Permission denied: '/media/dhiraj/boot'"
[06:57] <Mikness> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ9wNT21c_s
[06:57] <larrylamsy> I wonder will Ubuntu stop to use Unity as its desktop manager one day.
[06:57] <T_H_X> lol
[06:57] <Fudge> lidar_  yep i know that is one option thanks
[06:57] <jagginess> Mikness, if your drive model matches compatibility for the upgrade, then the upgrade is likely to fix it.. the release notes say there are issues sounding what you're describing
[06:58] <lidar_> larrylamsy, i think not touchscreens are gonna be everywhere .. unity is the thing to have
[06:58] <Mikness> Wow, thanks everybody!
[06:58] <Walther> !offtopic
[06:59] <Mikness> jagginess, I think I'll check out that update, and try T_H_X's idea if that doesn't work
[06:59] <lidar_> Fuchs, modules.conf perhaps ?
[06:59] <Mikness> I've been looking at doing this thing backwards the whole time
[06:59] <Pyrrhic> lidar_: pm me?
[06:59] <larrylamsy> lidar, I have checked distrowatch quite often, I found that Unity is comparatively ugly.
[06:59] <Walther> 'nyway, time for some healthy breakfast porridge
[07:00] <Walther> larrylamsy: lidar_: this is a support channel
[07:00] <Walther> please head to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:00] <pheonixman> Walther, are u looking into the error?
[07:00] <Walther> there are plenty of other people as well
[07:00] <Mikness> jagginess, how can I tell my current firmware?
[07:00] <larrylamsy> I do support Ubuntu. Believe me. I just.....
[07:00] <Walther> pheonixman: uncaught exception is a basic crash
[07:01] <Walther> I have no idea what happens, someone else should continue
[07:01] <Walther> I have to go now, basic needs, breakfast :)
[07:01] <jagginess> Mikness, that's cool the upgrade is an .iso you burn to a cd, and guess what it uses ISOLINUX
[07:02] <jagginess> Mikness, glad to start seeing less M$ on these sort of things hehe
[07:02] <pheonixman> Walther, thanks for ur time :)
[07:02] <jasonz> unable to enter details on an application form in libre office  says its read only
[07:02] <Fudge> lidar_  yep /etc/modules but im not sure if its a module i have to load, acl270 is the sound card
[07:02] <pheonixman> any other ubuntu guru there to help?
[07:03] <jagginess> pheonixman, mandela
[07:03] <pheonixman> jagginess, what does mandela mean?
[07:03] <jagginess> pheonixman, true, he is a guru (ubuntu guru), see the picture-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_philosophy :)
[07:04] <holycow> hi.  does anyone know how to get pulseaudio to normalize all sound output globally/
[07:04] <holycow> ?
[07:04] <pheonixman> jagginess, so does he come in irc..?
[07:04] <jagginess> pheonixman, he's a real ubuntu guru :)
[07:04] <pheonixman> ;)
[07:04] <holycow> web based content is getting notoriusly noisy, its hard to browse and not get your hearing blown out.
[07:04] <jagginess> oh you meant ubuntu the linux distro duh! hahah
[07:04] <pheonixman> jagginess, wanna try my problem?
[07:05] <jagginess> !ask
[07:05] <reasearcher123> how can I make video chat/conference for FREE using some facility in Ubuntu?
[07:05] <pheonixman>  i am facing a problem with my USB drive. Using Gparted i formated my USB to FAT32, after formatting it Ubuntu 10.10 does not mount it. If i try to mount it manually it mounts but i am not able to create any new folder (in short i loose all permission), i dont know whats happening here, if anyone can help me out
[07:06] <holycow> reasearcher123: you cannot.  use google conferencing for free instead
[07:06] <Walther> Also, pheonixman's goal is to create a startupdisk
[07:06] <pheonixman> Walther, thanks
[07:06] <jagginess> reasearcher123, dunno what you mean just in ubuntu, but anything on linux-- asterisk is there available (not sure about the video aspect though).. However, if you want something amazing, and cool to check out i'd check out flashchat123 (though its commercial, i believe its freely available for sometime)
[07:07] <Walther> reasearcher123: ...skype?
[07:07] <jagginess> pheonixman, fdisk -l <enter>
[07:07] <arbitraryuser> I upgraded my ubuntu that was running Ancient Armadillo to Precise and it's not happy. SickBeard and SAB are running super slow (~2 minutes to render a page etc), but the CPU, IO and RAM seem fine. Does anyone have any ideas on where to start looking for clues?
[07:07] <jagginess> pheonixman, do you see your usb drive with that command ^? (use sudo as nec)
[07:07] <reasearcher123> jagginess: I want to make a video conference with a friend abroad
[07:07] <pheonixman> jagginess, yup
[07:08] <pheonixman> i will post it
[07:08] <pheonixman> wait
[07:08] <jagginess> reasearcher123, flashchat123 seems the easiest to setup, it's simply extract and run.. (but not sure if its actually a 30 day limit)
[07:08] <Walther> arbitraryuser: did you upgrade or do a clean install?
[07:08] <arbitraryuser> Walther: upgrade.
[07:08] <Walther> oh god I think that's a new record :D
[07:08] <reasearcher123> jagginess: ok.lemme try
[07:08] <jagginess> reasearcher123, there's also something called red5, or anything using it is flash video chat capable..
[07:08] <arbitraryuser> Walther: Because I have so many things already installed/configured.
[07:08] <pheonixman> jagginess, http://pastebin.com/AZ7KG0ii
[07:09] <Walther> arbitraryuser: yeah, sure
[07:09] <arbitraryuser> s/Ancient Armadillo/Ubuntu Circa 4 years ago.
[07:09] <jagginess> pheonixman, maybe it wants a "disk identifier", it says 0000.. I think you zeroed out your drive before..
[07:10] <cristian_c> An other question
[07:10] <Walther> arbitraryuser: So what  are those programs you're using? rendering...?
[07:10] <jagginess> pheonixman, you'll probably have to make one.. but i never was in this position
[07:10] <arbitraryuser> Walther: They're both python web apps.
[07:10] <Walther> arbitraryuser: are you facing slowness issues with anything else?
[07:10] <pheonixman> jagginess, what does that mean, would u mind explaining me?
[07:10] <Walther> arbitraryuser: it might be an issue with just those apps as well
[07:10] <arbitraryuser> used for downloading, err, ubuntu distros and stuff ;)
[07:11] <Matan> hi, I have problem with Rhythmbox and Unity integration in u12.04, I can't use buttons from volume menu and I can't see covers, someone know how fix that bug?
[07:11] <jagginess> pheonixman, are you able to mount it manually in console?
[07:11] <jagginess> pheonixman, "Disk identifier: 0x00000000" << not sure if this a reason why..
[07:11] <pheonixman> jagginess, yeah, once i have mounted it, it doesn't not allow me to do anything on it
[07:11] <pheonixman> i mean cant even create a new folder
[07:11] <jagginess> pheonixman, oh
[07:11] <pheonixman> using nautilus
[07:11] <reasearcher123> jagginess: how to install flashchat on linux
[07:12] <ActionParsnip> pheonixman: what file system is the partition using?
[07:12] <jagginess> pheonixman, make sure the "read-only" toggle isn't set on the card.. (they can be very small little switches on the physical card)
[07:13] <pheonixman> ActionParsnip, FAT32
[07:13] <pheonixman> jagginess, i dont see any switches on the thumb drive
[07:13] <ActionParsnip> pheonixman: have you checked the partition health?
[07:13] <pheonixman> ActionParsnip, how to do that?
[07:13] <cristian_c> I'm using lostirc and I would like to change the irc quit message. I've found a file, inside the lostirc hidden folder of my Home, called events.conf, which contains some lines and particularly these: quit = 15-- 00%116 has quit 15(09%215)   quit2 = 15-- 00%116 has quit. But I don't think it is the right file. What can I do to solve this problem?
[07:14] <jagginess> reasearcher123, you only setup the flashchat123 server.. there should be a readme inthere.. i won't elaborate because it's a commercial product :/ (but the clients connect to an http:// page, nothing to setup for all the clients--- they'll use video cameras via flash)
[07:14] <pheonixman> jagginess, also i would like to tell u that, USB was working file till i formatted it using GParted.
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> Phoebus: you can use chkdsk in windows, or fsck.vfat in linux
[07:14] <holycow> anyone know how to get pulse audio to normalize all audio output?
[07:14] <reasearcher123> ok.thansk
[07:14] <ActionParsnip> pheonixman: ^
[07:14] <jagginess> reasearcher123, http://<ip>:35555 something like this , i forget the port# exactly (you can use netstat -plutn to find out)
[07:15] <pheonixman> ActionParsnip, will run it and let u know
[07:16] <jagginess> pheonixman, sounds crappy
[07:16] <abdelghani> i was about to install iso via terminal and it was saying:Unable to locate package fronty-rg
[07:16] <jagginess> pheonixman, have you done a reboot?
[07:16] <pheonixman> dhiraj@guru:~$ sudo fsck.vfat /dev/sdb1
[07:16] <pheonixman> dosfsck 3.0.9, 31 Jan 2010, FAT32, LFN
[07:16] <pheonixman> /dev/sdb1: 0 files, 1/1964495 clusters
[07:16] <pheonixman> jagginess, yup
[07:16] <ActionParsnip> abdelghani: does the file pass MD5 test?
[07:16] <jagginess> pheonixman, maybe something in dbus' history is thinking that device is already mounted somewhere
[07:17] <jagginess> pheonixman, try mount without ever logging onto the desktop
[07:17] <pheonixman> jagginess, but i am able to mount using bash
[07:17] <pheonixman> ActionParsnip, ^
[07:17] <abdelghani> ActionParsnip: no test was carried out
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> pheonixman: if you manually mount, is it writable?
[07:18] <pheonixman> jagginess, http://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?58035-Installing-a-distro-on-a-USB-flash-drive
[07:18] <ActionParsnip> abdelghani: I think you should
[07:18] <pheonixman> jagginess, can u get anything from this
[07:18] <pheonixman> ActionParsnip, through nautilus NO, but through bash YES
[07:19] <jagginess> pheonixman, ok so once you login to the desktop, you can't use bash to mount anymore, but you can use bash to mount it before doing any desktop logon
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> pheonixman: if you add an entry in /etc/fstab using the UUID, it will mount as you set in the file
[07:19] <jagginess> pheonixman, sounds like something is $%^ in the gnome desktop
[07:19] <abdelghani> ActionParsnip: how I can do that?
[07:19] <jagginess> ActionParsnip, not practical, it's a usb..
[07:20] <pheonixman> jagginess, have not tried to mount before doing desktop logon
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> abdelghani: the place you downloaded the file from wil have the hash of the correct file, you can then use the md5sum command to generate the hash of the file you have, and compare
[07:20] <jagginess> "<pheonixman> jagginess, but i am able to mount using bash"
[07:20] <ActionParsnip> jagginess: why not, if its only this one having the issue...
[07:21] <pheonixman> jagginess, yeah but after logging into GDM
[07:21] <sabyasachi> is it possible to install ubuntu on imac?
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> jagginess: and the UUID is unique to the device
[07:21] <pheonixman> and then using Bash
[07:21] <ActionParsnip> sabyasachi: yes
[07:21] <jagginess> pheonixman, it would mount in either case..
[07:21] <pheonixman> jagginess, ok
[07:21] <paulus68> At startup I get the following error message "The disk drive for /media/applications is not ready yet or not present Continue to wait press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery how do I solve this?
[07:21] <jagginess> pheonixman, something to do with gvfs potentially
[07:22] <Joe1> is there anyway to vchange my kerel to 64 bit
[07:22] <Joe1> ubuntu is being really slow for me
[07:22] <jagginess> pheonixman, try making a "disk identifier" for that disk
[07:22] <jagginess> pheonixman, as i said twice, maybe three times by now :/
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: you need the option:  noboot    (i believe) to tell it to not mount at boot and hold up the system
[07:22] <jagginess> (sorry, but try that)
[07:22] <pheonixman> ActionParsnip, jagginess: one more thing i observed, usually in every drive there is some unallocated space, but in my case (USB) after formatting it, it dosen't show any unallocated space
[07:22] <Joe1> is there a way to find out what is slowing ubuntu down?
[07:22] <sabyasachi> ActionParsnip: is the installation procedure different from normal pc?
[07:22] <Matan> hi, I have problem with Rhythmbox and Unity integration in u12.04, I can't use buttons from volume menu and I can't see covers, someone know how fix that bug?
[07:22] <Joe1> it was being ok now its being really slow
[07:22] <ActionParsnip> pheonixman: any particular reason you are using Fat32, isit for a camera etc?
[07:23] <pheonixman> jagginess, ok i will try..but i need to figure out how to do it
[07:23] <IncendiaryPyro> Gah, anyone able to help me with setting up mpd? Whenever typing 'mpd' into Terminal, I keep getting "Failed to bind to '[::]:6600': Address already in use"
[07:23] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ca/2198140 fstab
[07:23] <pheonixman> ActionParsnip, yeah need to create Startup Disk
[07:23] <Joe1> can  anyone help me
[07:23] <pheonixman> jagginess, in the mean time did u get anything from the link..that i posted?
[07:23] <ActionParsnip> pheonixman: do you mean for Ubuntu to install with, format it ext2
[07:23] <sabyasachi> ActionParsnip: or is there any other problem
[07:24] <pheonixman> ActionParsnip, live disk for Ubuntu
[07:24] <pheonixman> can i create it on USB drive formated in ext2?
[07:24] <ActionParsnip> pheonixman: format it ext2 and it'll be ok
[07:25] <pheonixman> really?
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> pheonixman: sure, you can format it to ext4 if you want
[07:25] <ActionParsnip> pheonixman: why would you not be able to?
[07:25] <pheonixman> ActionParsnip, ok..will try and let u know
[07:25] <Joe1> can ubuntu get virus?
[07:26] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: it's the /media/application that causes the problem
[07:26] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: add the option: noboot    to the line which is causeing the issue
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> !virus | Joe1
[07:27] <Joe1> ok
[07:27] <Joe1> well my system is being really slow
[07:27] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: at the end of that line? or at some place particular?
[07:27] <Joe1> im transfering my files to a different drive now would the drive being almost full cause it to slow down
[07:28] <Joe1> the files are transfering really slowly too
[07:28] <Joe1> the whole system is being sluggish
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: change:   errors=remount-ro  to: errors=remount-ro,noboot
[07:28] <Joe1> is there anyway to switch it to 64 bit?
[07:28] <Joe1> i only had a 32 bit cd
[07:28] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: instead of trying to guess, try researching using the web
[07:28] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: ok
[07:29] <ActionParsnip> Joe1: you will need the 64bit CD and a reinstall
[07:29] <Joe1> hmm i have no cds =/
[07:29] <lidar_> usb stick ?
[07:30] <ActionParsnip> Joe1: SD card?
[07:30] <Joe1> i have a 1 Gb flash drive?
[07:31] <ActionParsnip> Joe1: the install ISO is 700Mb, so its enough
[07:32] <Joe1> ok where can i get the right  one?
[07:33] <sabyasachi> anyone using ubuntu on an imac?
[07:34] <Joe1> will the 64 bit one work better?
[07:34] <Joe1> 32 bit seems slow
[07:34] <mertcanekiz> when I try to enter chroot it doesn't change prefix and I'm still at root@ubuntu. Why is this?
[07:35] <Joe1> is it normal for it to be slow or is something configured wrong?
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> Joe1: not necessarily, worth a try. It wil use your full CPU at the very least
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> Joe1: tried Unity2D session?
[07:35] <Joe1> no
[07:35] <Joe1> think it will wor k better?
[07:35] <ActionParsnip> Joe1: it doesn't use compiz, so probably yes
[07:36] <Joe1> seems like all the sudden the whole system slowed down
[07:36] <Joe1> would haveing 7 GB left on the disk cause it to slow down?
[07:36] <Joe1> im transfering the files to a different hd
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> Joe1: hw big is the drive?
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> *how
[07:36] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: getting now the notification mountall Disconnected from Plymouth??
[07:36] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: hmm, ok rollback the change
[07:37] <Joe1> 160GB  10,000RPm raptor
[07:37] <Joe1> Veloci raptor
[07:37] <Joe1> so it should be fast but idk
[07:37] <Pyrrhic> im gay
[07:37] <Joe1> cool
[07:37] <ActionParsnip> Joe1: you could remove old kernels to free space, also run bleachbit as user and root to free more space (have as many apps closed as possible)
[07:38] <mertcanekiz> when I try to enter chroot it doesn't change prefix and I'm still at root@ubuntu. Why is this?
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> mertcanekiz: you can su to your user if you want
[07:39] <Joe1> yea even movies are playin slow
[07:39] <ActionParsnip> Joe1: did you try unity2d
[07:39] <Joe1> no im gonna
[07:39] <Joe1> right now
[07:41] <mertcanekiz> ActionParsnip: I've already did that. I type chroot /sid_root /bin/bash but I can't enter chroot.
[07:41] <bekks> mertcanekiz: Dont mix up commands of chroot and schroot.
[07:41] <Matan> hi, I have problem with Rhythmbox and Unity integration in u12.04, I can't use buttons from volume menu and I can't see covers, someone know how to fix that bug?
[07:42] <Joe1> trying that bleachbit first
[07:42] <bekks> mertcanekiz: A valid chroot comand would be: chroot /mnt/here/is/my/chroot /bint/bash
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> mertcanekiz: this is how I do it: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[07:42] <ActionParsnip> Matan: do the buttons show in the sound menu, or are they missing?
[07:42] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: did that now I get the following skipping profile in /etc/apparmor/ and finally gets back with the same plymouth error
[07:43] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: well all we did was add an option then remove it...
[07:43] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: had to enter to get out of this message to get to my logon screen
[07:43] <mertcanekiz> bekks: but my chroot is at /sid_root. I was following along this: http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap . Should I do this another way?
[07:44] <Matan> ActionParsnip: they are in volume/music menu but they are doesn't work like not activated
[07:44] <bekks> mertcanekiz: I'd follow the link ActionParsnip posted.
[07:44] <ActionParsnip> mertcanekiz: are you using debian?
[07:44] <mertcanekiz> Okay I'll look at that
[07:45] <ActionParsnip> Matan: if you make a fresh ubuntu user and log in, is it ok?
[07:45] <mertcanekiz> I'm at an ubuntu live cd
[07:45] <Pyrrhic> anyone familiar with wine and ubuntu
[07:45] <bekks> Pyrrhic: Why?
[07:45] <Pyrrhic> bekks: trying to get an app to install and it won't.
[07:46] <Matan> ActionParsnip: i saw that problem in older version 11.04
[07:46] <pheonixman> ActionParsnip, same error
[07:46] <Mboone> I'm trying to install an app and I can't get it to work. Software center won't let me click install and I can't figure out how to install it via terminal
[07:47] <auronandace> !appdb | Pyrrhic
[07:47] <synthetix> Mboone, go back to the Windows :)
[07:47] <Pyrrhic> auronandace: It's not  because I'm afraid to read. I'm just stuck on a script.
[07:48] <Mboone>  Synthetix: well aren't you the biggest help ever
[07:48] <Pyrrhic> Mboone: sudo apt-get *APPNAME*
[07:48] <synthetix> iif ud like to get the right answer u need to have the right question
[07:49] <synthetix> with some details
[07:49] <Pyrrhic> synthetix: Do you have TeamViewer?
[07:49] <pheonixman>  i am facing a problem with my USB drive. Using Gparted i formated my USB to FAT32, after formatting it Ubuntu 10.10 does not mount it. If i try to mount it manually it mounts but i am not able to create any new folder (in short i loose all permission), i dont know whats happening here, if anyone can help me out
[07:49] <synthetix> Pyrrhic, i don't need it
[07:50] <bekks> pheonixman: 10.10 isnt supported anymore.
[07:50] <Pyrrhic> Synthetic: I realize that. Are you just here to troll?
[07:50] <pheonixman> bekks...well that should be the problem
[07:50] <bekks> pheonixman: Besides that, 10.10 was able to use FAT32 usb drives.
[07:51] <pheonixman> bekks: so now it doesn't?
[07:51] <Mboone> Synthetix: I ran sudo get-apt and I get back invalid operation. Should I have the package in a certain folder or does that not mater?
[07:51] <bekks> pheonixman: Now, 10.10 isnt supported anymore. So no one will try to solve that problem on 10.10 anymore :)
[07:52] <Pyrrhic> It doesn't matter, Mboone. You need to specify the name of it after apt-get
[07:52] <Pyrrhic> It's apt-get, not get-apt
[07:53] <Pyrrhic> #winehq
[07:53] <Mboone> Pyrrhic: I did do apt-get sorry. I entered the package name exactly as it shows, both with and without .deb to no avail
[07:53] <Pyrrhic> what package?
[07:54] <Mboone>  Pyrrhic: easytether_0.7.3-1_i386.deb
[07:55] <Pyrrhic> Mboone: what version of ubuntu/
[07:55] <Mboone> Pyrrhic: 12.04 Lts
[07:56] <killer_> hi
[07:56] <killer_> hi
[07:56] <Pyrrhic> Mboone:  cd to the folder it's in ; then run
[07:56] <Pyrrhic> Mboone: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[07:56] <killer_> how do i protect myself against netcut attack
[07:57] <synthetix> killer_, u can use netuncut tools
[07:58] <Mboone> Pyrrhic: was told cannot access archive: no such file or directory
[07:58] <killer_> any ubuntu related tool
[07:59] <Walther> Is it possible to set bluetooth off by default?
[07:59] <Walther> it is on every time i log in / reboot
[07:59] <Pyrrhic> you have to go into the folder it's in via terminal.
[08:00] <Mboone> How would I do that. It's in the download folder inside the home folder
[08:01] <Pyrrhic> open a new terminal
[08:01] <Pyrrhic> cd Downloads (Capital D is necessary)
[08:01] <Walther> Mboone: cd /home/your_user_name/Downloads
[08:01] <Walther> Or that
[08:01] <synthetix> guys
[08:01] <aasu> hi how come  i play radio on ubuntu
[08:01] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: is there a way to retrieve the data on that drive or is it completly lost? I also get an error that there is a mismatch on the fabricants name
[08:01] <synthetix> u r wasting ur times
[08:02] <synthetix> :)
[08:02] <synthetix> he is not gonna get that
[08:02] <Mboone>  Ok then I run apt-get?
[08:02] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: your backups will save any data, you can always manually mount it
[08:02] <aasu> i wanna play radio on ubuntu what i m suppose to download
[08:02] <aasu> i wanna play radio on ubuntu what i m suppose to download
[08:03] <aasu> i wanna play radio on ubuntu what i m suppose to download
[08:03] <dwakar> aasu: radiotray
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Walther: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1582551
[08:03] <Pyrrhic> No, Mboone.
[08:03] <aasu> its not working
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> aasu: there is a radio lens you can use
[08:03] <Pyrrhic> Mboone: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[08:03] <Mboone> Pyrrhic: ok
[08:03] <Pyrrhic> :)
[08:04] <gogeta> aasu: iheartradio works on everything
[08:04] <Pyrrhic> Walther: Do you know much about wine?
[08:04] <Walther> Pyrrhic: some
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> Pyrrhic: in what way?
[08:04] <dwakar> aasu: what radiotray is not working? which ubuntu?
[08:04] <aasu> where i m getting this i heart radio
[08:04] <Pyrrhic> Trying to run League of Legends on Ubuntu. Stuck in a coding script.
[08:04] <Walther> Pyrrhic: pastebin it
[08:05] <gogeta> aasu: there website
[08:05] <Pyrrhic> Walther: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19141
[08:05] <Mboone> Pyrrhic: I got it installed, thanks for your help
[08:06] <Pyrrhic> Walther: If you read on down, there's a bit about 64-bit as well. I have both on this hard drive. Currently on 32
[08:06] <Pyrrhic> Mboone: No problem. Glad to help. :D
[08:06] <Joe1> so how do i put this usb to boot from USB
[08:06] <Joe1> iso rather
[08:07] <Pyrrhic> @Joel Burn the .iso as a CD Image.
[08:07] <Joe1> with what app
[08:07] <Pyrrhic> Imgburn works for CD's
[08:07] <Joe1> is there one ubuntu has by defailt
[08:07] <Joe1> ok
[08:07] <Pyrrhic> Yes.
[08:07] <Pyrrhic> There's one built into ubuntu
[08:08] <dwakar> Joe1: ubuntu live usb creator
[08:08] <Walther> Pyrrhic: So, do you have the web installer or full?
[08:09] <Pyrrhic> The web. But I can't get it to run.
[08:09] <Joe1> dwaker isnt that for windows
[08:09] <gogeta> ill have to take that back it seems to not play on linux
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Joe1: or use unetbootin, both are fine
[08:09] <dwakar> usb-creator-gtk at the terminal
[08:09] <Walther> Pyrrhic: hm, no idea, sorry
[08:09] <Joe1> o ya i forgot about unetbootin
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Pyrrhic: did you check the appdb for compatibility?
[08:09] <Joe1> i installed that too
[08:09] <Pyrrhic> ActionParsnip: Yes.
[08:10] <Pyrrhic> Rating: Gold
[08:10] <gogeta> tuneinradio seems to work
[08:10] <Walther> Pyrrhic: There's a comment on the bottom, "NOTE: These instructions work for almost any distro EXCEPT for Ubuntu 12.04 64bit. If you are unlucky and have that painful OS, scroll a little down and follow the Ubuntu-specific guide :) "
[08:10] <Walther> I don't necessarily agree with 12.04 being painful, but it might cause issues to your WINE
[08:11] <Pyrrhic> Walther: Yes I know. I'm trying to get this going on x86 Ubuntu. I also have a 64-bit installation. But I don't know how to patch.
[08:11] <Walther> Pyrrhic: anyway, sorry, can't help
[08:11] <Pyrrhic> Walther: Thanks for your time anyway. =]
[08:12] <dwakar> gogeta: radiotray works fine on my ubuntu 12.04
[08:12] <gogeta> dwakar: nice never tryed it
[08:12] <Pyrrhic> ActionParsnip: Any ideas?
[08:14] <kingfarvito> horribly fuzzy display. Tried changing resolution any ideas?
[08:14] <kingfarvito> http://tinypic.com/r/160evph/6
[08:14] <kingfarvito> there is screen cap
[08:14] <kingfarvito> happened suddenly out of the blue
[08:14] <gogeta> dwakar: is teather to phone on edge chatting hear and listing to radio lol
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Pyrrhic: i'd ask in #winehq
[08:14] <dwakar> gogeta: huh
[08:15] <Pyrrhic> ActionParsnip: I'm trying to, but it's dead. No one is replying.
[08:15] <gogeta> dwakar: relly slow internet worse then dialup at times
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> kingfarvito: what video chip? what make and model system?
[08:16] <kingfarvito> its a dell inspiron 1440
[08:16] <kingfarvito> no idea on the video, just what ever on board stuff
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> kingfarvito: why was that detail not in the initial question?
[08:17] <kingfarvito> I assumed it was an software issue not a hardware issue
[08:18] <gogeta> kingfarvito: could be but does it do it on windows or even the bios screen
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> kingfarvito: yes but we need to know teh hardware so we can look at the driver (software) setting
[08:19] <kingfarvito> no idea gogeta, it just started
[08:19] <AndrewX192> Is it possible to shrink the unity dock icons smaller than 32px? (I can't see everything I have open, even at 1080px height)
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> kingfarvito: can you run:  lspci | grep -i vga; lsb_release -sc     what is output please?
[08:19] <gogeta> kingfarvito: well if it does it outside linux its proly hardware
[08:19] <kingfarvito> woah, it just stopped
[08:19] <gogeta> kingfarvito: hardware
[08:20] <kingfarvito> lovely
[08:20] <gogeta> kingfarvito: is it a lcd
[08:20] <kingfarvito> guess that makes it time for a new comp?
[08:20] <gogeta> kingfarvito: its not as bad as it sounds its probly just a bad lcd controler
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> kingfarvito: check the dry connection on the screen
[08:21] <gogeta> kingfarvito: 10$ repair
[08:21] <kingfarvito> dry connection?
[08:21] <dial-a-monkey> Hey all - Just wondering if anyone has a good reason why my 12.04 changed local LANG and LANGUAGE to Chinese?  I'm naturally security pananoid
[08:21] <gogeta> kingfarvito: and normaly just under the bezel and 1 screw
[08:22] <kingfarvito> good to know
[08:22] <giumatfra> ciaooooooooooooooo
[08:22] <gogeta> kingfarvito: check the connection there it may be loose
[08:22] <giumatfra> !list
[08:22] <kingfarvito> also if it still matters ActionParsnip "00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)
[08:22] <dial-a-monkey> - Im not running Tripwire
[08:22] <kingfarvito> precise
[08:22] <kingfarvito> " was the out put
[08:23] <gogeta> kingfarvito: most lcd death is that 10$ controler but most people just buy a new laptop or monoter
[08:23] <kingfarvito> I see
[08:24] <gogeta> kingfarvito: got a few nice free laptops that way
[08:24] <kingfarvito> I've been looking into a new comp anyway. this thing is falling apart
[08:24] <Joe1> 2d does work better
[08:24] <Joe1> why is that
[08:24] <ActionParsnip> Joe1: it doesn't use 3D accelleration to make the useless pretty stuff on the desktop
[08:24] <Joe1> ok
[08:24] <gogeta> kingfarvito: and even saved a few frends from buying a new laptop they didnt need
[08:24] <paulus68> ActionParsnip:The thing is it's known in the bios but under lshw it's not so I wont be able to mount it right?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: does it show in:  sudo fdisk -l
[08:26] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: negative
[08:26] <abdelghani> delicious
[08:26] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: if you boot to ubuntu live cd, is it accessible?
[08:27] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: don't know will have to check that
[08:28] <gogeta> kingfarvito: look up the lenovo y580 its a pretty epic laptop priced under 900$
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> i got rid of the square mouse pointer install precise 12.04.1 clean, tnx to all
[08:28] <Joe1> will file trasnfers and things be faster with 64 bit
[08:28] <Joe1> or does that not really matter
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> Joe1: won't really affect it
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> Joe1: I suggest you research what 64bit actually is
[08:29] <Wizard> Joe1: But apps will take more RAM ;P
[08:29] <Joe1> i know what it is i just thought maybe that speeds up the processing
[08:29] <Joe1> 32 bit sees all my ram tho so i guess i dotn really need it
[08:29] <nicelyToasted> Joe1: it probably wouldnt be worth a reinstall
[08:29] <Wizard> Definitely.
[08:30] <Wizard> Good morning, BTW :)
[08:30] <nicelyToasted> good morning
[08:30] <Joe1> yea
[08:30] <nicelyToasted> afternoon
[08:30] <Joe1> i think i wanna use osx again
[08:30] <Joe1> lol
[08:30] <nicelyToasted> noooo!!
[08:30] <Joe1> soon as i figure out how to get it back on my comp i was useing lion
[08:30] <gogeta> Joe1: apple will bring death squads for that
[08:31] <ActionParsnip> Joe1: its great for CPU intensive stuff like audio and videeo transforms and SQL servers etc
[08:31] <Wizard> I smell a Hitchhiker.
[08:32] <Joe1> idk i thought osx worked pretty good
[08:32] <Wizard> And Ubuntu doesn't? :(
[08:32] <Joe1> kinda
[08:32] <trent> Hello, can someone tell me why whenever I drag my Skype icon to my desktop. It shows up as a configuration file instead?
[08:32] <Joe1> its not really working all that well for me
[08:33] <gogeta> Wizard: lol only ubuntu without unity
[08:34] <trent> I think Ubuntu hates me.
[08:34] <gogeta> trent: it hates us all equily
[08:35] <trent> Why can't it just work? On the website it seems so easy to use. xD
[08:35] <gogeta> trent: whats broke
[08:35] <trent> My Skype icon shows up as a configuration file and not the Skype icon? :(
[08:35] <gogeta> trent: its easy to use with lxde or xfce or mate lol
[08:36] <gogeta> trent: i think you need to enable desktop icons
[08:36] <trent> I got them enabled gogeta firefox icon shows up
[08:36] <lotuspsychje> whats a popular first person shooter online for ubuntu?
[08:36] <trent> Call of Duty?
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> trent: run the app, then lock it to the unity panel
[08:36] <gogeta> trent: sounds like something with skype then the easy way is make a icon to run the skype command then add the correct pic
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: urban terror
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: the penumbra series is well worth the mony
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: nexuiz
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:tnx lemme take a look :p
[08:37] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: playdeb has urban terror
[08:37] <Wizard> trent: Check if the file ends with .desktop.
[08:38] <trent> Wizard, it just shows Skype nothing else.
[08:39] <Wizard> So try renaming it to Skype.desktop
[08:39] <trent> I got it, I think it was just a small glitch.
[08:39] <trent> What is this LXDE though?
[08:39] <gogeta> trent: my way work for anything icon trmnel command skype
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:tnx for the playdeb site, looks cool
[08:39] <Wizard> trent: Desktop environment, personally I consider is as crap.
[08:40] <Joe1> wish i could switch the kernel without a reinstall
[08:40] <Joe1> lol
[08:40] <Joe1> u can on osx
[08:40] <gogeta> Wizard: dont confuse unity as a desktop envirment
[08:40] <Wizard> trent: So now you have your skype icon?
[08:40] <Wizard> gogeta: Unity is a compiz plugin, in fact.
[08:40] <gogeta> Wizard: its a touch screen envirment
[08:40] <Wizard> ROTFLMAO.
[08:40] <Joe1> i want a theme like suse linux has
[08:41] <Wizard> gogeta: I have a touchscreen in my netbook, Unity sucks on touchscreen.
[08:41] <trent> Wizard, I do have my Skype icon :)
[08:41] <zlati> hi
[08:41] <gogeta> Wizard: never said it was a goiod one
[08:41] <Wizard> It has many elements showing up on mouse hover, try to hover on a touchscreen.
[08:41] <Joe1> is suse linux any good
[08:41] <Joe1> ?
[08:41] <Joe1> isnt that debian too
[08:41] <gogeta> Joe1: no suse is rpm based
[08:41] <Wizard> Joe1: Not a good place for such questions.
[08:42] <Joe1> why not? its a general question
[08:42] <gogeta> Joe1: or redhat
[08:42] <ryan_> hello, i cant access windows 8 file system from ubuntu. any solutions?
[08:42] <Joe1> im useing ubuntu
[08:42] <Joe1> lol
[08:42] <nicelyToasted> Joe1: its a personal choice. better to ask in ##linux
[08:42] <Joe1> best place to ask the question actually ill never learn about it if i dotn ask and everyone here knows what i wanna know
[08:42] <Joe1> lol
[08:42] <Wizard> Heh.
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> ryan_: you trying to browse a windows 8 usb device?
[08:43] <gogeta> Joe1: lubuntu xubuntu are all geat
[08:43] <Joe1> never tried those
[08:43] <Joe1> ive tried kubuntu i think
[08:43] <gogeta> Joe1: lxde and xfce
[08:44] <trent> gogeta, is lxde any good?
[08:44] <Joe1> are they just different GUi
[08:44] <zlati> guys i have a question.... right now im using centos to host my websites and wanna migrate on ubuntu, what about it ? wich you recommend normal or server ?
[08:44] <Joe1> or wat
[08:44] <gogeta> trent: its a simple desktop
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> trent:for lower systems they run fine
[08:44] <gogeta> lotuspsychje: for any system
[08:44] <trent> looks like i'm going to install that then. :)
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> !server | zlati
[08:44] <ryan_> lotuspsychje: i could browse through windows 7 but i cant ever since i installed windows 8
[08:44] <trent> Does it have a "wireless connection" icon?
[08:45] <Joe1> where can i get lxde it looks nice
[08:45] <zlati> lotuspsychje: it is stable ?
[08:45] <trent> Joel "sudo apt-get install lxde-desktop"
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> gogeta: for high end systems i rather use unity
[08:45] <bekks> Joe1: You can just install lxde
[08:45] <gogeta> trent: unlike ubuntu and gnome microsoft they are not trying to change the desktop
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> zlati:very stable
[08:45] <gogeta> Joe1: yep all those envirments are in the repos
[08:46] <Joe1> ooo
[08:46] <trent> gogeta, does LXDE have a wireless desktop icon? If not how do I connect to my wireless? I can't figure it out without being on Xfce
[08:46] <Wizard> gogeta: Sorry to say that, but you sound kinda childish :)
[08:46] <gogeta> trent: yes its on the bottem right corner
[08:47] <trent> gogeta, thank you i'm going to go install that. :)
[08:47] <gogeta> trent: next to the messages
[08:47] <ryan_> lotuspsychje
[08:47] <trent> gogeta, before I go. On my KDE desktop I can't find the network icon? I don't know how to connect to my wireless netowkr.
[08:47] <gogeta> trent: well you can try them on your install just fine and still have unity
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> ryan_:can you provide us with more details...what excaclty you got as error etc..
[08:48] <gogeta> trent: same its bottem right corner its a odd looking icon like a straght line
[08:48] <trent> gogeta, I honestly couldn't find it. xD
[08:48] <wan26> ah
[08:48] <gogeta> trent: you have to dubble click it then it opnens the networking config
[08:48] <Joe1> how do i use the lxde once its installed?
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> ryan_:you got ntfs installed?
[08:49] <Joe1> log out an use that selection menu i use for the 3d 2d switch?
[08:49] <gogeta> Joe1: at login slect envirment then lxde
[08:49] <trent> gogeta, thank you for your help. I'm going off to bed. Goodnight. :)
[08:50] <gogeta> trent: i think for the newer login screen its the little gear icon
[08:50] <ryan_> lotuspsychje -:Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 14: Windows is hibernated, refused to mount.
[08:50] <ryan_> Failed to mount '/dev/sda2': Operation not permitted
[08:50] <ryan_> The NTFS partition is hibernated. Please resume and shutdown Windows
[08:50] <ryan_> properly, or mount the volume read-only with the 'ro' mount option, or
[08:50] <ryan_> mount the volume read-write with the 'remove_hiberfile' mount option.
[08:50] <ryan_> For example type on the command line:
[08:50] <FloodBot1> ryan_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:50] <Joe1> cool
[08:51] <Joe1> lxde is way better
[08:51] <gogeta> Joe1: guess  you found it
[08:51] <Joe1> i keep getting a system error
[08:51] <Joe1> since b4 the theme change
[08:51] <svip> I am having a problem with the Icedtea plugin; I upgraded it recently and now it doesn't work.  Essentially, the area where the applet should start, it just stays white.
[08:51] <Joe1> somethign witha nautalis package
[08:51] <svip> Nothing is saying that it isn't working, however.
[08:51] <Joe1> nautilus crashed with SIGBRT in raise
[08:52] <gogeta> Joe1: could be a waring not a error
[08:52] <Joe1> it asks me to send it in
[08:52] <Joe1> like a error report
[08:52] <gogeta> Joe1: odd enough
[08:53] <Joe1> this lxde interface is definatly more easy to use
[08:53] <gogeta> Joe1: could be trying to load the old theme and not likeing its not there
[08:53] <gogeta> Joe1: :)
[08:54] <gogeta> Joe1: lxde and xfce at least to me and most older users are great alts
[08:55] <gogeta> Joe1: its like everyone thinks the start menu is some sort of eveil now
[08:55] <Joe1> i like it
[08:55] <Joe1> i dontl ike the new unity crap
[08:55] <Joe1> i like how it use to look
[08:56] <gogeta> Joe1: well thats always the good thing abught linux is the choice
[08:57] <Wizard> gogeta: People usually like Unity.
[08:57] <gogeta> Wizard: people who dont knoe better
[08:57] <ryan_> why do i get this error message   Unable to mount 86 GB File system
[08:58] <gogeta> ryan_: well thats not good is it a windows drive
[08:58] <Ascavasaion> I am using Lubuntu, the little notification that pops up when Internet connections are made, songs chance, etc. has disapeared.  HOw do I get back.
[08:58] <bekks> ryan_: What are you trying exactly, from where do you get that error, and which Ubuntu are you using?
[08:59] <funky1> hi all, i just installed ubuntu 12.04 64 bit desktop version, i have a Zotac GeForce GT 610 PCI video card that is attached via hdmi cable to a 55 inch TV, when I watch HD videos, the video stutters any ideas what i can do?
[09:00] <ryan_> bekks_: am using 12.04 LTS and i always get that message any time i try to acess that drive is actually my c: for windows 8
[09:00] <gogeta> Ascavasaion: its not in the add remove applet list
[09:01] <Wizard> gogeta: Dunno, I use GNU/Linux for few years and personally I think Gnome shell and Unity are tight steps.
[09:02] <Wizard> At least "Linux" gained it's own design, look and feel and so.
[09:02] <Ascavasaion> gogeta: I do not see that option.
[09:02] <Wizard> It is distinct.
[09:02] <gogeta> Ascavasaion: right click the task bar add remove panel items slect add and network manager should be there
[09:02] <compdoc> whats the advantage of using a UTC clock rather than local? is it simply to do with daylight savings time?
[09:02] <Wizard> compdoc: When you travel :P
[09:03] <Ascavasaion> gogeta: No, not the network monager monitor thingie... I mean a little window pops up... notifications.
[09:03] <ryan_> gogetta_: yeah is a windows drive, windows 8 to be precise
[09:03] <Wizard> compdoc: You than just switch timezone and it works.
[09:03] <Wizard> ;P
[09:03] <compdoc> it wont be traveling
[09:03] <gogeta> ryan_: boot windows 8 let chkdsk run t should work after assuming its still ntfs
[09:04] <Wizard> compdoc: Than it is up to you, but this is traditional unix setup ;P
[09:04] <bekks> ryan_: What exactly are you doing to "access the drive"?
[09:04] <Pyrrhic> Anyone available to help me with a scripting issue with WINE? I have TeamViewer.
[09:05] <bekks> Pyrrhic: State the actual issue you are having please.
[09:05] <funky1> ryan_: have you ever mounted successfully the drive in ubuntu?
[09:05] <ryan_> bekks_: i mean trying to browse(open) it
[09:05] <bekks> ryan_: Then open a terminal and type dmesg to see whats in the kernel ring buffer.
[09:05] <gogeta> Ascavasaion: i think its called desktop pager
[09:06] <gogeta> Ascavasaion: or wnckpager
[09:06] <Ascavasaion> gogeta: I sorted it out... apt-get install notification-daemon and then you just run notification-properties and voila!
[09:07] <gogeta> Ascavasaion: or its a app :)
[09:07] <Pyrrhic> bekks: The script is skipping the local setup file.
[09:07] <ryan_> funky1_: yeah but only when i was using windows 8
[09:07] <Ascavasaion> gogeta: :)  thanks for trying though.  Much appreciated.
[09:07] <phibxr> funky1: There are a lot of things you could check. Start with making sure that the correct refresh rate has been set for your TV. For my setup, it defaults to 24Hz, which makes both screens incredibly jerky.
[09:07] <gogeta> phibxr: a hdtv should display just like a monoter
[09:08] <bekks> Pyrrhic: What does that mean? Something like "the script doesnt execute the wine setup file" or something?
[09:08] <funky1> ryan_: is it a company laptop or so, could there be some encryption on the drive? what does dmesg outpus show?
[09:08] <phibxr> gogeta: Mine sure doesn't, under Ubuntu. It reports its capabilities fine to Windows and OS X, but under Ubuntu it's detected as a projector with 24Hz. After setting it up manually, it works fine though. I blame it on the Catalyst drivers for Ubuntu.
[09:09] <funky1> phibxr: i suppose those settings are in the xorg.conf?
[09:09] <gogeta> phibxr: my tv has vga and hdmi so even my older cards have no issue strange guess becouse its a newer tv
[09:09] <Pyrrhic> bekks: Link to the script http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=19141
[09:10] <Fira> Hi ! Using an intel chipset, and from  what i read the xorg video drivers package includes 3 drivers. Can i hotswap between them, or otherwise toogle which ones X use ?
[09:10] <phibxr> funky1: Setting them up there is a good start, but you also have to configure it in Catalyst if you're running the proprietary AMD-drivers. The open source drivers detects it just fine though.
[09:10] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I'm on Ubuntu 32-bit atm. I also have a 64-bit installation of 12.04 LTS /// I'd be royally pleased if I could get either working.
[09:10] <bekks> Pyrrhic: And whats the actual problem then? What exactly happens and what do you expect?
[09:10] <Fira> Trying to get something to work, but it's crashing with current driver...
[09:10] <phibxr> funky1: The Catalyst drivers for Linux have always been a bit dodgy. :)
[09:10] <funky1> not amd nvidia
[09:11] <funky1> first tried free dirvers, but had the problem there, installed l8test prop. drivers, still same problem..
[09:11] <phibxr> funky1: Sorry, I mixed you and gogeta up. For NVIDIA it's only xorg.conf, yes. :)
[09:11] <phibxr> funky1: Might as well check the NVIDIA configuration utility though.
[09:11] <Andres_chile> why youtube is so slow in xubuntu??
[09:11] <gogeta> Andres_chile: old machine?
[09:11] <Andres_chile> not so much
[09:12] <Pyrrhic> bekks: It doesn't run the setup file I have.
[09:12] <Andres_chile> in windows works well
[09:12] <gogeta> Andres_chile: slow video card
[09:12] <ryan_> funky1_: no is my personal laptop, dmesg's output is quit complecated, dont understand it
[09:12] <Andres_chile> and i made the change to xubuntu
[09:12] <bekks> Pyrrhic: So which file exactly do you have...?
[09:12] <funky1> phibxr: ok thx will play around a little and see what happens
[09:12] <funky1> ryan_: try another mount, do dmesg and post outcome on pastebin
[09:12] <Pyrrhic> LeagueofLegends.exe
[09:12] <Pyrrhic> from the website
[09:13] <funky1> and give us the link of course :)
[09:13] <gogeta> Andres_chile: xbuntu with compiz on will try to use  the video card and on oder cards it an be slow
[09:13] <bekks> Pyrrhic: Have you edited the script as being told in the instructions?
[09:13] <gogeta> Andres_chile: turning off ompiz and using 2d should speed it along
[09:13] <Andres_chile> how can i do it? im new in xubuntu
[09:13] <Andres_chile> i dont know the commands
[09:13] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I have. Commented out the online installation. It still skips it. I'm thinking I've done something wrong.
[09:14] <funky1> ryan_: btw are you trying to mount via command line or just pluging in the drive into the USB port?
[09:14] <Fira> Actually, i'm using a chipset that is supposed to work with i915 but XOrg under Ubuntu loads me i810 instead. Is this normal :( ?
[09:14] <gogeta> Andres_chile: in the settings menu i think its marked window effects
[09:14] <ryan_> funky1_: sorry am a lil new here so whats pastebin
[09:14] <funky1> pastebin.ca
[09:14] <funky1> is a website
[09:14] <bekks> Pyrrhic: COmmenting out the online installation is not enough.
[09:14] <funky1> where you can copy paste stuff
[09:15] <bekks> Pyrrhic: You have to modify the path to that setup file in a way that it points to the file you have.
[09:15] <funky1> ah i see there is also paste.ubuntu.com that you can use
[09:15] <Pyrrhic> bekks: what do i need to change? Please assist.
[09:15] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I don't have very much scripting knowledge.
[09:15] <jbermudes> What does it mean if grub2 can't see my ubuntu partition but a liveCD fdisk -l shows it?
[09:15] <bekks> Pyrrhic: The lines to edit are hilighted in yellow.
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> Fira: blacklist the i810 driver
[09:16] <ryan_> funky1_: no, am using dual boot so is the same hard disk
[09:17] <funky1> ah ok
[09:17] <funky1> see here, http://askubuntu.com/questions/128577/cant-mount-ntfs-partition could be u have the same issue then
[09:17] <gogeta> luftikuss: dialup ftw
[09:17] <Andres_chile> i cant find compiz in menu, theres a command to disable it?
[09:17] <bekks> ryan_: Did you paste the output of dmesg yet?
[09:17] <Pyrrhic> bekks: How do I point to the directory? Just put the full path of the file after $WINEXE ?
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> Andres_chile: just log in to the Unity2D session
[09:18] <Andres_chile> ok ill try it
[09:18] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: hes in xfce
[09:18] <ryan_> bekks_: can i past it here
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: ahhhh
[09:18] <funky1> ryan_: paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[09:19] <bekks> Pyrrhic: Just read the comments in the yellow section.
[09:19] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: been a wile sense i used it but they do have a compiz off option its under look and feel i think
[09:20] <Pyrrhic> bekks:    # if you have the web-based installer (about 2MiB), use this      GC_DONT_GC=1 $WINEXE $scriptWD/LeagueofLegends.exe    # if you are not using the web-based installer comment the previous line.
[09:20] <Pyrrhic> bekks: The GC_DONT_GC=1 $WINEXE $scriptWD/LeagueofLegends.exe is what confuses me
[09:21] <bekks> Pyrrhic: We dont know which installer you have - you have to know it.
[09:21] <gogeta> Pyrrhic: whont playonlinux have all the settings he needs
[09:21] <bekks> gogeta: But playonlinux does not have the installer he needs.
[09:22] <gogeta> bekks: it shoulld have settings for the installer as well
[09:22] <bekks> gogeta: Settings, correct. But not the installer itself.
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: didn't know it was even installed by default..
[09:23] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I have the non-web-based
[09:23] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I just don't know what I need to do to point the script to it. Edit what line?
[09:23] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: yea it has compiz i always turned it off but now im in the lxde camp not even installed
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: same, good times
[09:24] <abdelghani> ActionParsnip: are you a developer?
[09:24] <gogeta> abdelghani: lol
[09:25] <bekks> Pyrrhic: First, decide which type of installer you have. Then read the comments. One line is for the online installer, the other one for the offline installer.
[09:25] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I have the offline
[09:25] <Pyrrhic> bekks: My question is... if I don't change that line will it automatically search for it and find it wherever it is on my computer..
[09:25] <bekks> Pyrrhic: Then edit the line thats described to be responsible for the offline installer.
[09:26] <Pyrrhic> bekks: or do I need to put in a full file path
[09:26] <bekks> No, it will not do some automagic.
[09:26] <Pyrrhic> lol
[09:26] <Pyrrhic> bekks: Where does the full path go... that's all I'm trying to ask.
[09:26] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: you catch that are you a dev lol
[09:26] <ryan_> funky1_: i just pated the output of dmesg in pastebin
[09:26] <bekks> Pyrrhic: To the setup file you have. Where you saved it to.
[09:26] <abdelghani> gogeta: what about you?
[09:26] <funky1> ryan_: give link please
[09:27] <gogeta> abdelghani: i i have been known to code
[09:27] <Pyrrhic> GC_DONT_GC=1 $WINEXE  ----------- Directly AFTER $WINEXE ?
[09:27] <Yerushalmi> Hey folks. Since about a week ago, my computer has been randomly deciding to disconnect from wifi, and I can't reconnect to my network or any other one until I restart. Can someone help me with this?
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: not a dev :)
[09:27] <ryan_> funky1_:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1167733/plain/
[09:27] <abdelghani> gogeta: please clarify
[09:27] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: i knoe lol
[09:28] <Pyrrhic> bekks: GC_DONT_GC=1 $WINEXE --> *HERE* ??? I tried that and it doesn't work.
[09:29] <gogeta> abdelghani: i did this a few years back when netbooks and linux where not so frendly http://liliputing.com/2009/04/pupeee-linux-42-is-fast-simple-and-built-for-eee-pc-netbooks.html
[09:29] <blackshirt> what are you doing guys'?
[09:29] <bekks> Pyrrhic: "doesnt work" is not an useful error message. What did you enter exactly, and what happened - exactly?
[09:29] <bekks> Pyrrhic: Use a pastebin for providing what you've done and what happened please.
[09:29] <gogeta> abdelghani: mostly patches
[09:30] <Pyrrhic> bekks: Do you have teamviewer or another screen-sharing program?
[09:30] <bekks> Pyrrhic: No.
[09:30] <Pyrrhic> bekks: Mind getting it?
[09:30] <profiler1982> is it possible to implement HUD in gnome-shell?
[09:31] <abdelghani> any one as a developer here?
[09:31] <bekks> Pyrrhic: Yes. :P Just provide the information requested. :)
[09:31] <funky1> ryan_: hm don't see anything out of the ordinary in there, what is the partition you want to mount called?
[09:31] <blackshirt> yes
[09:31] <bzzzz> :O
[09:31] <gogeta> abdelghani: you knoe thats not helping just tell the problem if someones knoes they might aswer
[09:31] <luftikuss> profiler1982: What do you mean by HUD?
[09:32] <bekks> ryan_: You just rebooted as can be seen. Now try to mount your disk again, and provide a new output of dmesg please.
[09:32] <Pyrrhic> Well after it runs, it closes. I don't know how to create a log. So if I showed you as it happens.. you'd be able to see.
[09:32] <bekks> luftikuss: "Heads Up Display".
[09:32] <W4sp> HUD = head up display
[09:32] <bekks> Pyrrhic: It does not create a log. I requested some other information.
[09:33] <profiler1982> hud option in unity
[09:33] <ryan_> funky1_:  this is the actual message i get   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1167745/plain/
[09:33] <abdelghani> gogeta: I will
[09:33] <Pyrrhic> bekks: What would you like to know? I missed your question. I'm sorry.
[09:33] <bekks> Pyrrhic: "doesnt work" is not an useful error message. What did you enter exactly, and what happened - exactly?
[09:33] <bekks> Pyrrhic: We need to know what you've edited in that single line.
[09:33] <gogeta> abdelghani: so far i get your having a hard time with linux
[09:33] <gogeta> abdelghani: or ubuntu
[09:33] <funky1> ryan_: ah ok, there you go, it says what the problem is
[09:34] <funky1> ryan_: do a reboot
[09:34] <bekks> ryan_: "Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 14: Windows is hibernated, refused to mount"
[09:34] <blackshirt> abdelghani, exactly,what do you want to know?
[09:34] <Pyrrhic> bekks: 1. Opened Terminal 2. Ran the script. 3. It created the second script as if it installed the program, but no program was installed.
[09:34] <bekks> ryan_: Whats unclear with that message? :)
[09:34] <gogeta> abdelghani: its starting to sound like english is not your primary language you are aware we have channels in every language
[09:34] <bekks> Pyrrhic: So you did NOT edit any lines in that script?
[09:34] <abdelghani> for document viewer will somebody work for make it opening on many tabs/
[09:34] <abdelghani> ?
[09:34] <bekks> Pyrrhic: If you did, we need to know WHAT you've done...
[09:35] <abdelghani> I don't know that
[09:35] <ryan_> funky1_:  i have tried several times but still wont work, however windows is not hibernated
[09:35] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I changed   GC_DONT_GC=1 $WINEXE $scriptWD/LeagueofLegends.exe
[09:35] <gogeta> abdelghani: what you speak then
[09:35] <Pyrrhic> bekks: to GC_DONT_GC=1 $WINEXE /home/pyrrhic/Downloads/LeagueofLegends.exe
[09:36] <bekks> Pyrrhic: And does that file exist?
[09:36] <abdelghani> arabic
[09:36] <Pyrrhic> Yes it does.
[09:36] <abdelghani> gogeta: Arabic
[09:36] <bekks> Pyrrhic: And are you using kde or gnome?
[09:36] <Pyrrhic> gnome
[09:36] <Pyrrhic> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[09:36] <bekks> Pyrrhic: Did you change something else in the script?
[09:36] <blackshirt> abdelghani, no matter arabics or not, you should understand, this channel not spesific to arabic languange
[09:37] <funky1> ryan_: boot up windows, open a command line and run "mount /f" also make sure you  switch off option of fast power on though windows might not be hibernated, the hibernation file might still be there which could cause the problem
[09:37] <ryan_> bekks_: my windows is not hibernated
[09:37] <gogeta> abdelghani: try #ubuntu-arabic
[09:37] <Pyrrhic> I changed the wine version to 1.5.11 at the top
[09:37] <wan26> pyrrhic, do you have the permissions set right on that file
[09:37] <Pyrrhic> Checked it in terminal
[09:37] <gogeta> !dz
[09:38] <bekks> Pyrrhic: And why didnt you read the WHOLE script to see another yellow hilight which tells you to change something when you are not using KDE?
[09:38] <gogeta> abdelghani: or #ubuntu-dz
[09:38] <Pyrrhic> I also changed those to gksu
[09:38] <enzo> hello
[09:39] <Pyrrhic> wan26: I'm pretty sure file permissions are fine.
[09:39] <bekks> Pyrrhic: Ok, I am out now. I asked you several time what you've changed to the script, obviously you never provided full information. I cant support you like that, sorry.
[09:39] <enzo> I've had a severe bug while upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04.1, error is: /usr/bin/perl: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/perl5/auto/Cwd/Cwd.so: undefined symbol: Perl_xs_apiversion_bootcheck, any idea ?
[09:39] <ryan_> funky1_:  k will try that and get back @ u
[09:40] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I'm really not trying to irritate you. I'm just new to Ubuntu. Let me make a list of changes for you in a pastebin.
[09:40] <abdelghani> blackshirt: sorry but i was not talking to you
[09:40] <blackshirt> ldconfig
[09:40] <abdelghani> gogeta: thank you very much
[09:41] <blackshirt> abdelghani, good if you understands..happy day
[09:41] <Pyrrhic> bekks: are you still here?
[09:46] <Yerushalmi> Hey folks. Since about a week ago, my computer has been randomly deciding to disconnect from wifi, and I can't reconnect to my network or any other one until I restart. Can someone help me with this?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: when it happens, run:  dmesg | tail     it may give clues
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: and what wifi chip do you use?
[09:47] <blackshirt> try to restart network-manager scripts guys?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: if you unload and reload the wifi chip, is it ok?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: the driver module, sorry
[09:48] <Pyrrhic> Someone please help me with a scripting error on 12.04 LTS involving WINE ?
[09:49] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Wow, lots of things at once. Okay, I'll wait for it to happen again and run that first suggestion. Let me check the second one...
[09:49] <Kartagis> hi
[09:49] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: The output is "Precise".
[09:50] <Kartagis> if I were to buy a dedicated server, can I just use SSH to install a VDS on it?
[09:51] <bekks> Kartagis: Whats a VDS?
[09:51] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I apologize for earlier. I created a pastebin with every change I've made. Do you mind looking once more?
[09:51] <Kartagis> virtual dedicated server
[09:51] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: I don't know what wifi chip I have, this computer is secondhand. I have a little switch on the right side to disable and reenable wifi, which I used to use to save battery, until this issue started, because now I'm no longer able to reenable wifi after it's been disabled without restarting.
[09:51] <Kartagis> bekks: ^
[09:52] <bekks> Kartagis: Which software are you trying to use for doing so?
[09:52] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: That latter problem, where I can't reenable wifi if I disable it, I had with 11.04 and 11.10 as well on my previous computer.
[09:52] <bekks> Pyrrhic: Why dont you finally pastebin all information you already have...?
[09:52] <Pyrrhic> bekks: http://pastebin.com/zuvVp4iv
[09:52] <Pyrrhic> bekks: there you go.
[09:53] <Pyrrhic> bekks: Line 7 should read Original.
[09:53] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: How would I unload and reload the driver module?
[09:56] <august64> hi guys
[09:56] <Pyrrhic> heya
[09:56] <bekks> Pyrrhic: So after running that script, did you do like being told at the end of the script?
[09:57] <august64> i succeeded to connect the internet using blueman but i cannot surf
[09:57] <gogeta> bekks: some script majic going on hear
[09:57] <august64> the connection is not working
[09:57] <gogeta> august64: that a cell modem?
[09:57] <august64> yes
[09:58] <gogeta> august64: not surfing?
[09:58] <Pyrrhic> Yes. I know what the setup looks like and it never runs.
[09:58] <august64> gogeta: no
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: run:  sudo lshw -C network      you will see the driver module, you can then use:  sudo modprobe -r module; sudo modprobe module
[09:58] <Pyrrhic> It just creates Play_LeagueOfLegends.sh on my Desktop.
[09:59] <bekks> Pyrrhic: And what does that script say at the end...?
[09:59] <bekks> "Use the Play_LeagueOfLegends.sh to start ..." :P
[09:59] <gogeta> august64: if other stuff works may be a dns issue
[09:59] <august64> i've set proper dial-up number, APN and also edited the /etc/resolv.conf file to match the isp nameserver
[10:00] <august64> gogeta: exactly
[10:00] <gogeta> august64: use google dns or something
[10:00] <ram007> looking for open source erp experts
[10:00] <gogeta> august64: or open dns see if that works
[10:00] <Pyrrhic> Run the executable script on my desktop.
[10:01] <august64> gogeta: i've tried opendns and it didnt work
[10:01] <gogeta> august64: you set the isp one?
[10:01] <gogeta> august64: cell modems can be a pain
[10:01] <august64> gogeta: i've tried both -  isp and opendns
[10:02] <gogeta> august64: is this a phone or just a modem
[10:02] <august64> cell modems ARE a pain
[10:02] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I run the executable that was placed on my desktop as instructed and nothing happens.
[10:02] <gogeta> august64: and if your trying to use a voice sim it will not work
[10:02] <august64> a gprs cellular phone
[10:02] <wan26> it may not be set as executable
[10:02] <august64> nokia5130
[10:02] <gogeta> august64: thats it thwen
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Pyrrhic: chmod +x ~/Desktop/Play_LeagueOfLegends.sh; ~/Desktop/Play_LeagueOfLegends.sh
[10:03] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: I have "driver=iwl3945 driverversion=3.2.0-29-generic" under "configuration", which one?
[10:03] <Pyrrhic> Yes. It's executable.
[10:03] <gogeta> august64: they block that mode on voice sims
[10:03] <Pyrrhic> It runs, but nothing happens because it isn't running the setup
[10:03] <gogeta> august64: you have to teather it via another methed usb or wifi
[10:03] <august64> gogeta: i can connect to it using cable
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: sudo modprobe -r iwl3945; sleep 2; sudo modprobe iwl3945
[10:03] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Got it.
[10:03] <gogeta> august64: yep thats how it works
[10:03] <august64> gogeta: it works on usb
[10:03] <gogeta> august64: and it will
[10:04] <august64> i need a working solution for bluetooth
[10:04] <gogeta> august64: its just how the sim card works you cant use a voice sim with that methed
[10:05] <bekks> Pyrrhic: Then take a look at that script...
[10:05] <gogeta> august64: its gonna be faster via usb or wifi anyways
[10:06] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I'm never seeing the emulation of the actual setup file in my Downloads folder running.
[10:06] <Pyrrhic> And I don't know why. Thats why I believe this isn't working.
[10:06] <bekks> Pyrrhic: Then take a look at that new script.
[10:06] <Pyrrhic> Want a pastebin of it?
[10:06] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Okay, that disconnected and reconnected me from the internet, but there was no output to the terminal. Should I be running those commands when my internet goes down, or were you giving me diagnostic instructions?
[10:07] <Pyrrhic> http://pastebin.com/Ts4CVd9m
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: yes, you will get no output as the command succeeded
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: when the connection drops, use that command
[10:08] <gogeta> august64: thats my setup right now i got my phone in the windows at work with a wifi link
[10:08] <gogeta> window
[10:08] <gogeta> august64: using foxfi
[10:08] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Okay, thanks, I hope it works!
[10:09] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: What do they actually do?
[10:09] <Pyrrhic> bekks: http://pastebin.com/Ts4CVd9m -- there's the pastebin of the second file. The paths within are created by wine after the install has been ran.
[10:09] <Pyrrhic> bekks: What doesn't make sense to me is, it's skipping them.
[10:10] <Kartagis> bekks: I don't know what to use
[10:10] <gogeta> lol he left before i could tell him if he just paid the devices via bluetooth networking should just strt working
[10:11] <bekks> Kartagis: ?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: reloads the driver, can make the wifi wake up
[10:12] <Kartagis> bekks: you asked me what software I intended to use
[10:12] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: lol wifi sleep ug
[10:12] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: what a pain
[10:12] <fidel> hi - as part of my desktop cleanup i was removing kdm/kde from my setup as well as removing the manual installed nvidia driver on 12.04/64bit. Later on i defined lightdm to be the default login-manager. if i reboot now i do get the following error. unable to launch "/usr/bin/startkde" X session --- "/usr/bin/startkde" not found; falling back to default session. i am wondering where is that error coming from? i assumes so far after defining lightdm as ...
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: gives the device time to power down and junk
[10:12] <fidel> ... default i shouldnt see such errors in the first place.
[10:12] <bekks> Kartagis: First, you have to know which software you want to use before installing it :)
[10:12] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: all is well untill it doesent power back up
[10:12] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: *nodnods* thanks so much. Whenever I come in here you're the one providing the answers :)
[10:13] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: i had a fan do that once
[10:13] <W4sp> fidel: ... please go ahead.
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> gogeta: user is having to reboot to fix, its worth a shot
[10:14] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: had to make a script to keep sending the power = 100% every 5 minuts or so
[10:14] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: or it would slowly spin down to 0
[10:15] <fidel> W4sp: what info might be interesting= my first goal so far is to prevent this startkde message / get rid of it. step 2 would be most likely to prevent falling into fallback-session
[10:16] <fidel> any idea where this "startkde" message might coming from? who triggers it at startup?
[10:16] <Pyrrhic> bekks: Any idea?
[10:16] <ryan_> hi
[10:16] <gogeta> fidel: its proly in rc.d
[10:17] <gogeta> fidel: thats where most start up commands go
[10:17] <W4sp> fidel: One thing would be to dpkg-recoonfigure and select lightdm from the menu. I guess you have done so? Second is to make sure you select the desired DE session in lightdm prior login.
[10:18] <abdelghani> gogeta: ?
[10:18] <gogeta> fidel: i must be getting old i forgot the remove command
[10:18] <ryan_> w4sp
[10:19] <funky1> ryan_:did it work?
[10:19] <W4sp> ryan_: Hi there. How're things at your end?
[10:19] <fidel> W4sp: i did define gdm/lightdm already via dpkg-reconfigure - no effect  still seeing the kde message.
[10:19] <fidel> gonna check rc.d now i guess
[10:19] <fidel> gogeta: np - gonna dig a while ;)
[10:19] <gogeta> fidel: it should be like kdm service remove or some junk
[10:20] <gogeta> fidel: i think that is the command lol
[10:20] <ryan_> no guys windows tells me command not recognized
[10:21] <gogeta> fidel: yep sudo service kdm remove
[10:21] <gogeta> fidel: that should stop kde from starting at bot
[10:21] <bekks> ryan_: Which command...? :)
[10:21] <abdelghani> gogeta: did you see that ubuntu-dz is empty
[10:21] <abdelghani> ?
[10:22] <gogeta> abdelghani: i saw a few people in there guess its early over there
[10:22] <soman> Hi all. Why I can't reate a symlink to folder: sudo ln -s /usr/lib/xi386-linux-gnu /usr/lib64? Terminal tells me that directory already exist... I do it to correctly build with gcc. Linker cannot find crti.o which is in lib64 folder. Ubuntu 12.04 32bit
[10:22] <ryan_> bekks_: mount /f
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> soman: what is the output of:   file /usr/lib64
[10:23] <abdelghani> gogeta: it's 11:22
[10:23] <soman> ActionParsnip: /usr/lib64: directory
[10:23] <bekks> ryan_: mount is not a valid windows commands. Expected behaviour.
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> soman: then that's why, you cannot make a link it the destination already exists
[10:23] <gogeta> abdelghani: yea sometimes non english channels can be empty
[10:23] <gogeta> abdelghani: it happons
[10:24] <ryan_> bekks_: i tried this too   /f
[10:24] <ryan_> bekks_: whats shd i do now
[10:24] <soman> ActionParsnip: is any way to make linker/compiler search libs in lib64 folder instead of i386-linux-gnu?
[10:24] <bekks> ryan_: mount is not a valid windows command.
[10:25] <W4sp> fidel: I understand that this is after you have logged in successfully? If so, check /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log. It tells you the command lightdm want's to run.
[10:25] <gordonjcp> ryan_: What exactly are you trying to do?
[10:25] <W4sp> fidel: Do you have Xsession in ~/ ?
[10:25] <gogeta> W4sp: it just sounded like the kdm serivce was trying to run as well removing it should fix that
[10:26] <abdelghani> gogeta: is my English very bad?
[10:26] <Pyrrhic> bekks: I suppose I'm on my own?
[10:26] <gogeta> abdelghani: havent got the question yet all you said you have a problem with ubuntu
[10:26] <W4sp> gogeta: I see.
[10:26] <gordonjcp> abdelghani: looks okay to me, from what I've seen...
[10:27] <W4sp> brb
[10:27] <gogeta> !ask | abdelghani
[10:27] <fidel> gogeta: no removing kdm wasnt working either. i guess is see the problem now clearer ;)
[10:27] <abdelghani> gogeta: for now I was asking the developer to make the document viewer opened on many tabs
[10:28] <gogeta> abdelghani: i tabbed viewer im shure one is avable
[10:28] <abdelghani> gogeta: ok thanks how I can upgrade it?
[10:29] <gogeta> abdelghani: gedit has many addons im shure tabs is one
[10:29] <fidel> gogeta: W4sp : after removing kdm & redefiniting lightdm to be default i forgot thst lightdm was formerly defined to do autologin ;). So situation now is as follows: system boots up - uses lightdm , does autologin - which is fine so far ...but still displays the startkde error message and therefor ends up in  FALLBACK SESSION
[10:30] <ryan_> gordonjcb_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1167745/plain/
[10:30] <gogeta> abdelghani: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/top-plugins-to-extend-and-make-gedit-a-more-useful-text-editor-linux/
[10:30] <abdelghani> the one I'm using  opened on one and I have open each file on a different window
[10:30] <fidel> gogeta: W4sp got it sorted out. thanks for the pointers ;)
[10:31] <abdelghani> gogeta: the one I'm using  opened on one and I have open each file on a different window
[10:31] <gogeta> abdelghani: look in you gedit plugins you should be able to check tabs extended it give you what your asking for
[10:31] <abdelghani> gogeta: I mean the PDF files
[10:31] <ryan_> w4sp_: what do u suggest i do now
[10:34] <Subhajit> How to install ubuntu 12.04 on an imac 21''? is it even possible?
[10:34] <gogeta> abdelghani: http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/04/qpdfview-pdf-reader-ubuntu-linux/
[10:34] <gogeta> abdelghani: thats what your looking for
[10:35] <ryan_> gordonjcb_: anytime i try to open c: from ubuntu i get this message http://paste.ubuntu.com/1167745/plain/
[10:35] <gogeta> abdelghani: it should be in the repod
[10:35] <gogeta> abdelghani: repos
[10:35] <abdelghani> I'm busy checking and I'll come back to you
[10:37] <Subhajit> How to install ubuntu 12.04 on an imac 21''? is it even possible?
[10:39] <ryan_> could this be a factor? i installed ubuntu before windows 8 and later recovered ubuntu grub
[10:40] <gogeta> ryan_: this seems to be a isue with windows 8
[10:40] <gogeta> ryan_: are they using winfs or something
[10:40] <gogeta> ryan_: in fact they are
[10:41] <gogeta> ryan_: windows 8 uses a new fs that mean linux support is 0 right now
[10:41] <gogeta> ryan_: its called protogon aka winfs
[10:42] <ryan_> gogeta_: k
[10:42] <blackshirt> what the benefits over ntfs?
[10:42] <gogeta> blackshirt: supposadly it cant be cruppted
[10:42] <blackshirt> corrupted?
[10:42] <gogeta> blackshirt: thats the clame
[10:43] <blackshirt> I think that was bullshit... Just a hoax
[10:43] <gogeta> blackshirt: i take that with a huge grain of salf
[10:43] <gogeta> blackshirt: yea lol
[10:43] <ryan_> gogeta_: but i can open it using slax
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> i'd give it about 2 years, then see how 'uncorruptable' it is
[10:44] <blackshirt> i have xfs linux over 5 years
[10:44] <EDawg878> How can I mute a specific application in a script?
[10:44] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: seems they have alot of names for it refs
[10:45] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: seems to apply to servers
[10:45] <blackshirt> yes, for marketing use lol
[10:45] <ryan_> gogeta_: what do i do then?
[10:45] <gogeta> ryan_: seems there still using ntfs but a new version
[10:46] <blackshirt> was apple win over samsung on that claim?
[10:46] <gogeta> ryan_: so it whont be long before linux supports that again
[10:47] <wan26> apple won, but there's an appeal
[10:47] <gogeta> ryan_: i guess people who did get it to mount had major issues
[10:47] <ryan_> gogeta_: k
[10:47] <gogeta> ryan_: sync all off and stuff
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> EDawg878: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+question/20153
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> EDawg878: i'd ask in #pulse
[10:48] <EDawg878> thanks
[10:48] <blackshirt> that would hurt linux communities?
[10:48] <gogeta> ryan_: the linux ntfs devs will have to work there magic and update to the new rev
[10:49] <ryan_> gogeta_: thanks for yr help bro
[10:49] <blackshirt> that would hurt linux communities wan26
[10:50] <ryan_> what does swap mean
[10:50] <gogeta> blackshirt: google is on the atack now so i have a felling this is all gonna go away
[10:50] <iceroot> !ot
[10:50] <blackshirt> googeta, likes a war
[10:50] <gogeta> fine fine  lol
[10:51] <Subhajit> is it possible to install ubuntu on a imac?
[10:51] <gogeta> ill be in that room
[10:51] <iceroot> !mac | Subhajit
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> Subhajit: yes, there is a PPC ISO you can use
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Subhajit: you will need flash alternatives like gnash / lighspark to get flash in the browser
[10:52] <wan26> im not sure, but i hope it doesnt affect the community in any way blackshirt
on intel?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Subhajit: then install the usual desktop OS, flash will be fine (while adobe support us)
actually i am planning to buy an imac. i have heard that linux does not work well under apple hardware. is it true?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> Subhajit: it can work, If you are just going to put Ubuntu on, why not save a heap of cash and buy a regular system rather than an overpriced mac?
i know.... but i want to use mac.... :) is there any other way to use it
[10:56] <xxx> d
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Subhajit: it'll work. imho you are wasting a lot of cash
[10:57] <ryan_> is swap important, can i just skip it
i'm confused
[10:57] <Subhajit> =D
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> Subhajit: if you buy a mac it will probably work, but you could spend half the price of a mac on something known to work well
[10:58] <MaMaD> Problem With Mount
[10:58] <Platypus-Man2k> I intend to buy a monitor with 2560 x 1440 res soon, and then if I like it, the plan is to get another one in dual screen mode, but I think I read somewhere about max resolution for Xorg not going that high (5120 x 1440), but can not find that when googling now... can anyone confirm or disprove my lousy memory?
[10:58] <MaMaD> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[10:58] <MaMaD> Unprivileged user can not mount NTFS block devices using the external FUSE
[10:58] <MaMaD> library. Either mount the volume as root, or rebuild NTFS-3G with integrated
[10:58] <MaMaD> FUSE support and make it setuid root. Please see more information at
[10:58] <MaMaD> http://tuxera.com/community/ntfs-3g-faq/#unprivileged
[10:58] <FloodBot1> MaMaD: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:58] <MaMaD> Sorry :)
[10:58] <sagaci> :)
what 'something'? are u talking about hackintosh?????????
[10:59] <wan26> floodbot is so polite :]
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> Subhajit: no, like an HP, or a Dell
[11:00] <sagaci> MaMaD, make sure you have ntfs-3g installed and then sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdaX /media/cooldrive
[11:01] <gordonjcp> Subhajit: it's mildly faffy to install Ubuntu on a Mac, but start googling for "refit"
[11:01] <Subhajit> ActionParsnip: yeah..that's true. I'm not sure yet. May buy a custom desktop
[11:01] <gordonjcp> Subhajit: if you already have a mac, great, but don't go out of your way to buy one unless you also want to use OSX
[11:03] <Subhajit> gordonjcp: i dont have a mac, neither have i used it. I do use ubuntu though(and love it BTW).What do u think, should i buy a desktop pc(assembled)?
[11:05] <W4sp> ryan_: I just came back - had a support call. Did you get your probelm solved?
[11:05] <Subhajit> gordonjcp:???
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Subhajit: depends on needs
[11:06] <ryan_> w4sp_: i was told is an issue with windows 8
[11:06] <W4sp> fidel: Sorry, I had a support call. Did you get your probelm solved?
[11:08] <W4sp> ryan_: OK. Thanks for letting me know. :-) There's #windows on FN.
[11:08] <ryan_> w4sp_: and ubuntu doesent support protogon aka winfs which unfortunately is what windows 8 uses
[11:10] <fidel> W4sp: yep - solved that issue. thanks for asking.
[11:11] <W4sp> fidel: That's great. :-)
[11:12] <ryan_> helooooo... does ubuntu have any software similar to pd proxy?
[11:14] <Platypus-Man2k> does anyone know the max resolution of Ubuntu with a multi-monitor setup?
[11:15] <W4sp> ryan_: Would tor or i2p do?
[11:16] <Zentaur> hello
[11:17] <Zentaur> I'm trying to improve ubuntu 12.04 in my netbook
[11:17] <devish> somehow the unity DE is broked in my system i am not able to login with ubuntu(actually its not in menu too)
[11:17] <devish> how could i get this back
[11:17] <Zentaur> I'm disabling some startup services that I won't use
[11:17] <Zentaur> can I disable Mount helper?
[11:18] <ryan_> w4sp_:
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Zentaur: also ADD this to /etc/sysctl.conf http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/sysctl
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Zentaur: also installing prefetch can help
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> sorry, preload
[11:20] <bobo123> sometimes when I start ubuntu it do a check of filesystems and that taked a while, what command is it running, and in what file is that command?
[11:20] <Zentaur> mm ok, i'll try prefetch
[11:20] <bobo123> I'm running ubuntu10.04
[11:20] <Zentaur> threre are soome services that I don't know if i must dissable
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Zentaur: prefetch isn't a package afaik, preload is
[11:21] <W4sp> bobo123: It's probably fsck. It normally runs when a partition is not flagged as clean.
[11:22] <bobo123> W4sp:  but if I run fsck manuall it is finished in 0 second, I want to run it completly just like it do during start sometimes
[11:22] <Zentaur> SSH and GPG keyrings, gsettings, gnome configuration daemon, files...
[11:23] <gordonjcp> Subhajit: if you're only going to run Ubuntu, just get a normal PC rather than a mac
[11:23] <gordonjcp> Subhajit: that said, I'm running it on a macbook, because I got one relatively cheaply
[11:23] <bobo123> There must be some when-starting-computer file that have the command with parameters it uses during start, right?
[11:24] <gordonjcp> bobo123: there's quite a lot of that
[11:24] <W4sp> bobo123: Unless you have RAID, that periodically can remove the clean flag there's no need to run fsck(8) manually.
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> bobo123: could do it in liveCD
[11:27] <ryan_> my ubuntu runs slow is there any way i ccan speed it up?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> ryan_: tried Unity2D session?
[11:27] <pritesh> need light weight GUI for my command line :(
[11:28] <gogeta> pritesh: err what
[11:28] <gogeta> pritesh: umm mc
[11:28] <gogeta> pritesh: gui ffor command line?
[11:29] <pritesh> gogeta means for my OS
[11:29] <gogeta> pritesh: you can go pretty extream and just use xinit
[11:29] <gogeta> pritesh: or lxde
[11:29] <ryan_> actionparsnip_: no
[11:29] <gogeta> pritesh: just how lite you wanna go lol
[11:30] <pritesh> gogeta i just installed command line ubuntu and now looking for light GUI because i have to finish every thing under 1.4 GB
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> ryan_: what video chip do you use?
[11:30] <gogeta> pritesh: what aboguht awsome window manager
[11:30] <pritesh> gogeta thinking to spend only 10-20 MB for GUI
[11:30] <gogeta> pritesh: thats relly light
[11:31] <EricJ> So I'm setting up a machine running 12.04 Server, and I'm trying to give my users permission to play sound. (For example, using `speaker-test`) Currently, only root can do that, normal users (even those in the "sound"-group) gets "permission denied" errors. Suggestions?
[11:31] <ryan_> actionparsnip_: how can i find out
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> ryan_: lspci | grep -i vga
[11:31] <jordy> Hi can somebody help with a ubuntu installation?
[11:31] <gogeta> pritesh: http://awesome.naquadah.org/
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> jordy: ask away
[11:31] <pritesh> gogeta checking
[11:31] <bobo123> ActionParsnip:  I have another install of ubuntu that I can check from
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> pritesh: gogeta: also flwm is super light
[11:32] <bobo123> gordonjcp:  please tell :-)
[11:32] <gogeta> pritesh: x itsself it probly going to be biger then 30mb
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> bobo123: as long as yu have access to the partition without it being mounted, or booted, it is fine
[11:32] <W4sp> !pm
[11:32] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: awsome is pretty mutch tabed based
[11:32] <bobo123> W4sp: no I don't do raid. but I have normal fat32-partitions that ubuntu sometimes like to check during start, I don't want that. I want to check them manually when I have time
[11:32] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: vno real gui to it
[11:33] <gogeta> ActionParsnip: no real
[11:33] <jordy> my problem is that i am using the standart ubuntu. but I have a ssd card usind raid what is causing problems by setting the partition
[11:33] <ryan_> k
[11:33] <afief> is ubuntu.com down? neither the website nor the respositories are working
[11:34] <wan26> i can access it
[11:34] <Platypus-Man2k> afief: it is up for me too http://www.isup.me/ubuntu.com
[11:34] <Platypus-Man2k> and I just wget a package just fine, but it used norwegian repos
[11:35] <ryan_> actionparsnip_: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[11:36] <W4sp> bobo123: I see. There are good reasons for any Unix-like system to do just that. To circumvent mechanism that serve integrity and consistency of file systems are beyond the scope of my consultancy and services. ;-) Ask the channel if they can help.
[11:36] <gordonjcp> bobo123: What exactly are you trying to do?
[11:37] <ryan_> actionparsnip_:
[11:37] <vangelas> I installed firefox 14.0.1 manually as well as the latest flash plugin, but firefox cannot 'see' the plugins. Any ideas why?
[11:38] <ryan_> !pm
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> ryan_: should be ok, try the 2D version though
[11:41] <ryan_> actionparsnip_: do i  do that from the logon sreen
[11:41] <bobo123> gordonjcp: so there is never a delay during start of the computer. but instead so I can do all those checks whenever I have time. during coffe break fr example. so no filesystems check during start, neither ext or fat32 or ntfs, but instead all those checks when I drink coffe
[11:43] <coellobranco> saludos
[11:45] <bobo123> I assume that lots of unix systems are modeled for computers that is never turned off - but this is not one of them. this is turned on when used, and then turned off again. but I still want to be able to manually do all the filesystem check when I feel like it (and that is not during start of the computer, rather before turn off sometimes)
[11:46] <HAMKoot> bobo123, fsck can only be used, when the disk is unmounted ( best way is at startup)
[11:47] <gianni_777> hi everybody
[11:47] <bobo123> HAMKoot: I have another ubuntu installed that I can ran the check of the normal ubuntus root filesystem it from though
[11:47] <pwqpol> After i close my laptop ubuntu is not loading at all.Any clues? Ubuntu 12.04, Lenovo g525
[11:49] <gianni_777> anyone may tell me how fix my flash plugin because i can't see any video on you tube or other devices flash...please!! thank yuo..
[11:49] <bobo123> but best would be to have it check the disk when you exit ubuntu, can it be made to do that? Ubuntu must unmount the partitions during exit I assume
[11:49] <gordonjcp> bobo123: no, they kind of need to be done on startup because the filesystems can't be mounted
[11:50] <gordonjcp> bobo123: it's only ever done every 30 boots or so, and you can adjust how often it happens
[11:50] <Zentaur> would you recomend me something more to improve the performance of the pangolin in my netbook?
[11:50] <gordonjcp> bobo123: an extra couple of minutes every six months or so isn't going to hurt
[11:50] <jbermudes> What does it mean when a partition can't be found by grub's ls but it's found by gparted on a liveCD?
[11:50] <gordonjcp> Zentaur: more memory
[11:50] <SwashBuckla> hey there, I'm trying to find out what ubuntu uses as it's DVD drive. It's not /dev/dvd, do you know what it is?
[11:51] <bobo123> gordonjcp:  but they are unmounted right before the system is powered down on exit, right? do it could be done then at every 30 turn off?
[11:51] <SwashBuckla> I'm using growisofs to burn an iso to dvd and need to know what the DVD device is to specify it at commandline. What directory is it under? It's not /dev/dvd2 or /dev/dvdrw2
[11:51] <gordonjcp> not really
[11:51] <gordonjcp> you'd need to shut down completely and reboot
[11:51] <gordonjcp> so you're back running off initrd
[11:52] <bobo123> gordonjcp:  I don't know how you use your computer but I certainly turn on the computer more than 30 times per 6 months !
[11:52] <SwashBuckla> any ideas?
[11:52] <gordonjcp> bobo123: why?
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> SwashBuckla: sudo lshw -C disk; sudo lshw -C drive
[11:53] <bobo123> gordonjcp:  it is turned on when used. then turned off again. why would I have it on when I don't use it?
[11:53] <krababbel> bobo123: can't you use hibernation?
[11:53] <bobo123> why would I ?
[11:53] <krababbel> ease of use
[11:53] <bobo123> no
[11:53] <gordonjcp> because it starts instantly and uses no power?
[11:53] <gordonjcp> all my PCs are in constant use, 24/7
[11:54] <bobo123> I want the computer so start clean, no old programs running.
[11:54] <gordonjcp> that makes no difference
[11:54] <bobo123> gordonjcp: why do you have your computers on when you are not using them???? that is really trange for something not a server
[11:54] <bobo123> *strange
[11:54] <gordonjcp> bobo123: because they *always* doing something
[11:55] <gordonjcp> there is never a point during the day when any of my PCs is idle
[11:55] <gordonjcp> *are
[11:55] <bobo123> well my computer don't do anything when I don't surf the web or play a game. I don't want it to do anything when I'm not in front of it.
[11:55] <gordonjcp> so hibernate it, or even suspend
[11:55] <ryan_> how do i get rid all the drop down list under network
[11:55] <gordonjcp> it works just as well on desktops as on laptops
[11:55] <AtoxHybrid> hiya, for some reason white (and very light grey) fonts in google chrome look very fuzzy since today. Black and pretty much every other color is fine. anybody knows what caused this and how to fix it? (ubuntu 12.04)
[11:56] <bobo123> that is not an option for me. I'm not interested in your computer use though,. I want to be able to do a complete check of all filesystem when I like it, ideally before power off if it can't be made when the os is running.
[11:57] <bobo123> that should be possible, right?
[11:57] <gianni_777> flash player..i can't see anything....you tube ..nothing anyone could help me? please..
[11:57] <SwashBuckla> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/Ab0aQe4u
[11:57] <SwashBuckla> ActionParsnip: there seems to be many devices aliases
[11:58] <Zentaur> gordonjcp, that's not a possibility. It has 2 gb. It's enough
[11:58] <gordonjcp> Zentaur: in which case, try one of the lighter DEs?
[11:58] <SwashBuckla> ActionParsnip: but using growisofs on any of them doesn't work, giving this output: http://pastebin.com/tKYMRYRU
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> SwashBuckla: then use:  /dev/cdrw2 if it is a CD ISO, and /dev/dvdrw2  if you are using a DVD ISO
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> SwashBuckla: you need to make an IS of the data
[11:59] <ryan_> any help please.... how can i delete all connections made by bluetooth under network list
[12:00] <yatta> installed gconf-editor and want to remove key 'visual' in app/totem/ but it appears unchanged why?
[12:00] <yatta> removed*
[12:00] <Zentaur> Ubuntu in generl has become very fat to run like Bolt
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Zentaur: then install Xubuntu, or Lubuntu
[12:01] <Zentaur> I tryied both and more systems
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Zentaur: if you install ubuntu minimal, then install slim and fluxbox you will have a super light OS at about 1.2Gb installed
[12:02] <ryan_> any help please.... how can i delete all connections made by bluetooth under network list
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Zentaur: lighter than most
[12:02] <yatta> when I run movie player type of visualization is still there I want it set to nothing
[12:02] <Zentaur> I'll gve it a try. Thanks
[12:02] <yatta> like it was
[12:03] <gianni_777> flash player...how to install .... ubunut 12.04 lts thanx
[12:03] <ryan_> actionparsnip_:
[12:03] <stevo871> Is anyone any good at recovering hard drive in Ubuntu?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> gianni_777: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: why not just use your backups..
[12:04] <stevo871> the hard drive was in a Synology Diskstation, I have installed ubuntu to try and recover the data (and also because I havent played about in linux for year)
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> gianni_777: can you give a pastebin of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> gianni_777: something like http://pastie.org will do
[12:06] <gianni_777> ActionParsnip...ok thank you
[12:08] <stevo871> it keeps telling me about a bad superblock, its currently looking for a secondary superblock
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: there are a few
[12:09] <stevo871> ActionParsnip: Its been looking for about 15 mins just drawing dots in the terminal screen
[12:10] <yatta> is there way to set Type of visualization: to nothing like it was?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: why don't you just restore data from backup?
[12:10] <yatta> in totem's movei player
[12:10] <yatta> movie*
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> yatta: if you rename the config folder for totem, is it ok after yuo rerun it?
[12:10] <stevo871> ActionParsnip: I dont think there is a backup
[12:11] <fidel> hi - ubuntu 12.04 with a passive nvidia card (9500) and 2 displays. according to 'Additional drivers' i am not using any special graphics driver which should mean i do run nouveau - right?. Wondering how to get my dual-display setup now working - as right now only 1 display is working. 'displays' shows also only 1 screen.
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: there is only a backup if you make one
[12:11] <yatta> lemme try
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: why did you not make a backup if the data is important to you?
[12:11] <stevo871> that was the whole idea of removing the drive, I purchased a larger drive to back the data up to
[12:12] <yatta> ActionParsnip, I don't have option to rename folder
[12:12] <stevo871> I presumed that by removing the drive I could plug it into my comptuer and copy the files across
[12:12] <pii3> hi im on ubuntu 64bit 10.04 LTS
[12:12] <pii3> im trying to connect to vpn server with pon
[12:12] <pii3> modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting padlock_sha
[12:12] <pii3> device not found !!!
[12:13] <pii3> Warning during boot: WARNING: Error inserting padlock_sha (/lib/modules/2.6.24/12-generic/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock-sha-.ko): No such device
[12:13] <gordonjcp> stevo871: did you write anything to the hard disk?
[12:14] <gordonjcp> stevo871: if it's in ext2/3/4 then there are alternate superblocks you can try using when you mount
[12:14] <pii3> http://pastebin.com/Eesx3Pkh
[12:14] <stevo871> not that I am aware of, on the discstation I clicked to eject the hard disk which I presumed would make it into a readable state
[12:14] <gordonjcp> stevo871: alternatively hit it with a wee bit of photorec or testdisk
[12:15] <yatta> ActionParsnip, I can unset key or edit it
[12:15] <stevo871> I have managed to get all the superblock numbers, I have tried about the first 4 but had no luck
[12:15] <savr> in light of the apple victory over the weekend will ubuntu be changing it's default app icons?
[12:15] <Basomis> How can I delay gnome-terminal? http://s13.postimage.org/4v9eq5wtz/2012_08_26_150955_1280x1024_scrot.png
[12:15] <gianni_777> ActionParsnip:...ok done
[12:15] <gordonjcp> stevo871: maybe it's been overwritten
[12:16] <stevo871> gordonjcp: I hope it hasnt :( i have tried the software you mentioned before and it was finding my files but there was no names or structure
[12:16] <pii3> anyhelp ?
[12:16] <gianni_777> ActionParsnip: ok done..
[12:17] <yatta> BTW that's fresh install of gconf-editor
[12:17] <yatta> if that matters
[12:17] <stevo871> I found this article - http://forum.synology.com/enu/viewtopic.php?f=160&t=51393 << however some of the commands dont work on my computer for some reason?
[12:18] <stevo871> when I do sudo mdadm --assemble --scan it says "no arrays found in config file or automatically", any thoughts?
[12:19] <pii3> plz
[12:19] <pii3> modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting padlock_sha
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> pii3: try:  sudo modprobe padlock_aha -vv
[12:20] <gordonjcp> stevo871: yeah, it doesn't work *that* well with ext format
[12:21] <stevo871> ah :( any thoughts of geting around this?
[12:21] <pii3> ActionParsnip, insmod /lib/modules/2.6.32-42-generic/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock-sha.ko
[12:21] <pii3> FATAL: Error inserting padlock_sha (/lib/modules/2.6.32-42-generic/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock-sha.ko): No such device
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> pii3: ok, see what that means
[12:22] <pii3> u mean i need to install somehting
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> pii3: using Lucid?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> pii3: thought about an update to Precise?
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:just clean installed 12.04.1 LTS it was fast as rocket install and everything works
[12:24] <pii3> ActionParsnip, im on 10.04 LTS
[12:24] <hddsata6gb> hi
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> pii3: take the advice of ActionParsnip, its really worth a clean install
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> hddsata6gb:hi, you got any issues mate?
[12:25] <grumbly> I am semi-new to ubuntu (linux as a whole, really) and I'm trying to tune my system by disabling some kernel modules...  I don't know where to look for which ones I can safely disable.
[12:25] <pii3> guys i cannot
[12:25] <pii3> i have some problem that most be on 10.04
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> grumbly: install ubuntu-tweak it does it all for you
[12:25] <pii3> plz help me to solve this :(
[12:26] <grumbly> lotuspsychje: it's not though... I don't know if it's because I am on Kubuntu or what...
[12:26] <pii3> it was okay on 10.04 x86 but this 64-bit installation has problem
[12:26] <yatta> I opened configure editor --> apps --> totem --> unset 'visual' key --> opened movie player --> edit --> preferences --> display and type of visualization is still same as before unsetting key
[12:26] <Wizard> grumbly: Only needed modules are being loaded.
[12:26] <Wizard> grumbly: Who suggested you to play with them?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> pii3: use the web and see what the error means when you used the modprobe command
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> grumbly: http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> pii3: I recommend you install Precise, it may help things
[12:27] <grumbly> Wizard: I need parport_pc and joydev?
[12:27] <stevo871> so I presume I will not be able to recover data off this hard drive then?
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> stevo871: install testdisk
[12:27] <Wizard> If your hardware has this - yes.
[12:27] <BoozeWooz> hello
[12:28] <Wizard> Hi BoozeWooz
[12:28] <grumbly> Wizard: It doesn't...
[12:28] <Wizard> grumbly: LOL.
[12:28] <BoozeWooz> :o how you do this red text?
[12:28] <hddsata6gb> stevo871,  theres always a way to get it working
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: you can maybe use foremost
[12:28] <grumbly> I mean, it doesn't have a joystick or parallel port...
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: you have learned the value of backups the hardest way possible
[12:28] <stevo871> lotuspsychje: how can I install that?
[12:28] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | stevo871
[12:29] <hddsata6gb> lol turth spoken
[12:29] <BoozeWooz> i want to build up a distro from the ground up, can someone tell me the difference between ubuntu and debian?
[12:29] <stevo871> ActionParsnip: Yes I have, next time will go out and but a spare external one
[12:29] <grumbly> Wizard: I guess I am asking for more information about specific modules
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> stevo871: after install open terminal and type photorec , the best recovery app ever for lost partitions
[12:29] <grumbly> such as their dependencies and depends
[12:29] <Wizard> I don't remember all modules by heart.
[12:29] <Wizard> :P
[12:29] <grumbly> Wizard: i wouldnt expect you to.
[12:30] <grumbly> :P
[12:30] <stevo871> lotus: where do I install it from though?
[12:30] <Wizard> grumbly: I think that disabling these modules will give you few megs of RAM free, so.. I'm not sure if this is worth doing.
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> stevo871: from terminal?
[12:31] <grumbly> Wizard: there are a few with 0's
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: install foremostin liveCD, it may help. You will need a writable storage t spit the data to
[12:32] <grumbly> also, Ubuntu tweak looks really weird, and has almost no options,
[12:33] <lotuspsychje> grumbly:you can cleanup your system with it
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> grumbly: its a 3rd party app, contact the developers
[12:33] <grumbly> lotuspsychje: I am aware.
[12:33] <stevo871> I cannot get it to install testdisk so I will try that foremostin live CD, will I be ok putting that on a pen drive?
[12:33] <Wizard> grumbly: Let's start from beginning, what is your goal?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: you can install foremost in the ubuntu live desktop
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: assuming you have web access
[12:33] <stevo871> yeah I think the web access is working
[12:34] <matiosiem5> guys, which package is responsible for showing music player info in volume icon menu ?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: cool
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> matiosiem5: run:  dpkg -l | grep indicator
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> matiosiem5: one will be sound based
[12:35] <stevo871> this would be so much easier if my mouse worked lol
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: got a USB mouse?
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> BoozeWooz: you like mullvad for ubuntu?
[12:35] <grumbly> Wizard: lol! ok.  I am on a learning expedition and a tweaking fest.  I have experience with freebsd and have been a USER using Ubuntu for ~2 years now.  I am essentially just trying to eek out as much performance as possible without compromising the usability and stability of this system (which is freshly installed)
[12:36] <williamherry> when will ubuntu read ~/.bashrc? I add some alias to ~/.bashrc, it is not available in gnome-terminal
[12:36] <stevo871> downloaded foremost, done sudo foremost, now it says its processing stdin ?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> grumbly: playing with /etc/sysctl.conf can help
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> grumbly: also installing preload can help
[12:37] <Wizard> grumbly: Ah..
[12:37] <grumbly> Wizard: I'm not expecting to be able to host a database server and load balance off my laptop, but I would like maybe to have a slightly snappier system
[12:37] <matiosiem5> ActionParsnip, yes I have indicator-sound and indicator-sound-gtk2 installed both but still no controls in volume tray icon
[12:37] <Wizard> Disabling modules is definitely not what you want :D
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> grumbly: if you install a lighter desktop than the default gnome it will be fster too :)
[12:37] <grumbly> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the advice!  I am a little beyond those already though
[12:38] <Wizard> I would start from disabling daemons run in background, grumbly
[12:38] <yatta> ActionParsnip, I renamed folder named totem which is in folder .gconf nothing really changed
[12:38] <hddsata6gb> lotuspsychje,  yesi do
[12:38] <grumbly> Wizard: where/how would I go about this?
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> hddsata6gb:do what?
[12:39] <grumbly> Wizard: I've been plunking around with BUM, but honestly, FreeBSD is SOOOOO different, I am not comfortable doing it alone
[12:39] <stevo871> how long should foremost be processing stdin for?
[12:39] <grumbly> Other than with BUM that is
[12:39] <yatta> I thought it would be easy
[12:39] <Wizard> grumbly: Dunno what's BUM, check update-rc.d command ;)
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> !info bum | Wizard
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: depends on the size of the partition, the amount of data and the complexity of the data etc
[12:40] <Wizard> Ah.
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> stevo871: usually its a long while
[12:40] <Wizard> So you've already played with it, grumbly
[12:40] <stevo871> ActionParsnip: Cheers, back in a bit then
[12:40] <grumbly> Wizard: yes
[12:40] <grumbly> lol
[12:40] <grumbly> Thanks ActionParsnip
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> grumbly: sudo sed -i .s/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g. /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop     and you will see ALL the startup apps in the startup application, rather than just the user ones
[12:41] <Wizard> grumbly: Besides, there is an old (very old) IT rule, optimise only if it runs slow.
[12:41] <hddsata6gb> i have a 3tb hdd and i want to dual boot it.. first i want to put xp on it but it doesnt see it in the install screen.. to drive shows up ,but it shows up in ubcd( ubcd.com) in gparted
[12:41] <Wizard> Have you ran your databases and so off your laptop and tested it's performance?
[12:42] <grumbly> Wizard: LOL! no... whatever databases I have installed (and Im not sure what they are yet) are only accessed locally.
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> hddsata6gb: XP may not have the SATA drivers in. I suggest you aSK IN ##WINDOWS FOR THAT
[12:43] <Wizard> Ah, so you're just beginning your journey on minefields of IT? :D
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> hddsata6gb: sorry for caps
[12:43] <zoktar> is there a 12.10 testing channel cant read the whole topic on simple client
[12:43] <Wizard> grumbly: ^
[12:43] <lotuspsychje> hddsata6gb:loose the windows and single install precise :p
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> hddsata6gb: when you do get windows install started, leave unpartitioned space for ubuntu to install to, this wil sidestep the need to resize partitions
[12:43] <grumbly> Wizard: essentially
[12:44] <grumbly> well, essentially with Linux
[12:44] <Wizard> grumbly: Want my advice? Screw optimisations, just play with stuff.
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> zoktar: /topic #ubuntu
[12:44] <Wizard> You probably won't be able to kill it's performance, really, grumbly.
[12:45] <zoktar> /topic #ubuntu
[12:45] <zoktar> bah
[12:45] <grumbly> Wizard: I was very able to kill performance on the last install I had...
[12:45] <tsimpson> zoktar: #ubuntu+1
[12:45] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: strange thing happens when booting into live cd drive is present, when booting back into system drive is available  again ****me is puzzled***
[12:45] <Wizard> grumbly: :D
[12:45] <grumbly> ActionParsnip: I ran that command and got this: sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: `.'
[12:46] <Wizard> By querying mysql? :)
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> paulus68: strange, i'd still fsck it. There is the ultimate boot cd too, it has the drive testers from the main drive manufacturers. You can test at a low level with those
[12:46] <hddsata6gb> lotuspsychje,  its a gui headach.. and my presious 10.04 the updates seemed cooked// as if someone wanted me to force me to a differnct distro..  cap are if ActionParsnip  and what do you mean?
[12:46] <Wizard> grumbly: What kind of database do you have? T-Mobile customers db ?
[12:46] <grumbly> Wizard: LOL! no... by confusing the crap out of libs
[12:46] <zoktar> thanks
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> hddsata6gb: precise is highly recommended to install clean mate
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> grumbly: sudo sed -i 's/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g' /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> grumbly: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-show-all-startup-applications-in-ubuntu-12-04-lts
[12:47] <grumbly> Wizard: I have no databases...  Well, I think I have one in Amarok
[12:47] <grumbly> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[12:47] <zoktar> also i cb
[12:48] <hddsata6gb> lotuspsychje,  i know.. ... every ubuntu distro suffers from the upgrade bug
[12:48] <BluesKaj> HI all
[12:48] <hddsata6gb> hi
[12:48] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: at this point malin g a backup of both drives and trying to find 2 new hd's there are 2 old hd's in there 1 of 30 gig and 1 of 60 gig it's about time I guess to upgrade those into 500 gig each :p
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> grumbly: lots of stuff you can hack out
[12:48] <paulus68> ActionParsnip: *making
[12:48] <zoktar> is there a mini.iso for 12.04.1 yet?
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> hddsata6gb: i lost xp for years, never going back neither
[12:49] <hddsata6gb> ActionParsnip,  grumbly  dont forget to stop by and buy a new shiny ax XDDD
[12:49] <grumbly> hddsata6gb: what?
[12:50] <railsraider> what is 0 * * * * for a cron tab means? disabled? run every minute?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> railsraider: runs every hour of every day at x o'clock
[12:50] <llutz> railsraider: every h+0minutes
[12:50]  * Wizard nods
[12:50] <railsraider> thanks llutz
[12:50] <grumbly> i'm not trying to hack the thing.  I'm just playing with it
[12:50] <hddsata6gb> its a joke grumbly .. think.. lots of stuff you can hack out ... grumbly  dont forget to stop by and buy a new shiny ax XDDD
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> grumbly: disabling bluetooth and stuff like taht is good if you don't use it
[12:51] <llutz> zoktar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> railsraider: if you have a desktop UI you can use gnome-schedule as a cron GUI, use:  gksudo gnome-schedule     to cron as root
[12:52] <grumbly> ActionParsnip: OK!  Still, I cant seem to figure out where the information on the modules actually is... is there a manpage or something I'm just not seeing?
[12:52] <hddsata6gb> lotuspsychje,  though i love linux and the want its set up much like p2p.. there are just a few thing i must have.. and thats family and less agrueing about what my computer does..
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> hddsata6gb:what alternatives you still need mate?
[12:53] <yatta> no gconf-editor doesn't solve the problem when you want to remove configuration of type of visualization in totem's move player...what should I do?
[12:54] <bohemian9485> NickServ identify f!R3cl@n#1rC
[12:54] <yatta> movie*
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> bohemian9485: time for a new pasword dude
[12:54] <SkippersBoss> lol
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> lol
[12:54] <Wizard> grumbly: You can browse linux source, each module has "readme" file with brief description.
[12:54] <grumbly> Wizard: AH! THANK YOU!
[12:55] <Sidewinder1> bohemian9485, What ActionParsnip said,.
[12:55] <Wizard> grumbly: Also, when you do make menuconfig, you can browse all kernel stuff and read help. It gives a nice overview.
[12:55] <Wizard> bohemian9485: Prepare to land on bash ;]
[12:56] <bohemian9485> Still getting use to irc on mobile
[12:56] <grumbly> Wizard: I will not be even pretending to recompile the kernel yet
[12:56] <Wizard> You don't have to.
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> is there a way to view own webcam tru terminal without package for it?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: so like an ascii representation?
[12:57] <Wizard> grumbly: menuconfig only prepares configuration, but you don't have to change anything.
[12:57] <Wizard> grumbly: Just look arround ;)
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip: no lol, i mean like raw webcam view after a terminal command
[12:57] <grumbly> Oh.  OK!  Thanks a bunch!
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: could launch cheese from terminal, it may show stuff
[12:58] <grumbly> ActionParsnip: that sed command doesn't seem to help me on Kubuntu
[12:58] <hddsata6gb> well i need xp to install for the neighbor.  and i need to to dual boot so i can have him worry less about the nes 1k $ + moster of a computer i built for him... if he nudes the os its ok i got a copy to install and linux...  but im not even sure where to start... my pc is acer aspire am1100-b1410a   and im not sure if the new hdd sata 3tb  will work.
[12:58] <hddsata6gb> look up uvc
[12:59] <hddsata6gb> lotuspsychje,
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> grumbly: should be the same, should then show all the apps in startup, not sure if kubuntu uses different shizzle
[12:59] <grumbly> ActionParsnip: no... I fatfingered
[12:59] <grumbly> sorry
[12:59] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | hddsata6gb
[13:00] <grumbly> Man, No joke, FBSD and Linux are just different enough to frustrate
[13:00] <wjtaylor> Driver kernel mod won't compile. It's from the debian repos. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1168000/
[13:00] <grumbly> Ok, thanks for all your help ActionParsnip and Wizard
[13:00] <Wizard> I didn't help much, grumbly.
[13:01] <grumbly> Wizard: you told me about the source tree (pointing is helping!)
[13:01] <Wizard> grumbly: But watch out with playing with linux.
[13:01] <grumbly> Thanks again!
[13:01] <grumbly> I will
[13:01] <Raydiation> can anyone recommend a musicplayer like banshee? banshee is crashing a lot recently
[13:01] <grumbly> (also, not a production system so not much of an issue)
[13:01] <Wizard> grumbly: You may become a geek and girls will avoid you :/
[13:01] <hddsata6gb> ActionParsnip,  is like a channel op.. but he does not get paid for it.. i would be lost about y samba... with out him
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> Raydiation:some swear by vlc
[13:02] <Raydiation> i got 50k songs
[13:02] <grumbly> Wizard: I have a girlfriend, tattoos of chemical formulae, and I drive a busted 92 ford explorer
[13:02] <grumbly> chicks love me :)
[13:02] <Wizard> Busted?
[13:02] <grumbly> Busted = barely safe to drive
[13:02] <Walther> !ot
[13:02] <lotuspsychje> lets keep it to ubuntu
[13:02] <Wizard> grumbly: /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:03] <pii3> REALLY no way to fix  padlock_sha padlock-sha.ko no such device
[13:03] <grumbly> Wizard: lol  I know.  I'm taking off now anyhow
[13:03] <wjtaylor> It's for debian, I just used the past bin.
[13:03] <Wizard> 92 Ford Explorer doesn't look that bad ;P
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: i fixxed the square mouse pointer by clean installing precise 12.04.1 mate
[13:04] <ThinkT510> !yay | lotuspsychje
[13:04] <lotuspsychje> lol
[13:05] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:seems like some systems take over grafix stuff on upgrade
[13:06] <gehuigert> could someone help me with some ubuntu trouble with the /etc/fstab file and permissions?
[13:06] <shtrb> anyone here using krdc and know how to access the \\\\tsclient\\ when connecting from a Lin box to windows ?
[13:06] <lotuspsychje> gehuigert:best use pastebin to channel here mate
[13:06] <hddsata6gb> im looking at dual booting doc and it gies me the command line.. could there be a app so i can just make so i can latter just put it on auto-run?
[13:06] <shtrb> *as in shares
[13:07] <SolarisBoy> shtrb: not using krdc but generally if it's enabled it's present in the windows network browser in explorer
[13:07] <SolarisBoy> it will look like a share called \\tsclient
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> hddsata6gb:autorun a dualboot?
[13:07] <gehuigert> what do you mean? i should ask my question on pastebin?
[13:07] <wjtaylor> Kernel mod from debian repos won't compile in squeeze
[13:07] <hddsata6gb> look at you firewall linux side will default to a "keep out policeys"
[13:07] <shtrb> SolarisBoy, the problem is that it acts like the lin box doesn't publish it
[13:07] <lotuspsychje> gehuigert:paste etc/fstab into pastebin and output in channel
[13:07] <wjtaylor> http://pastebin.com/q3svjBJj
[13:08] <SolarisBoy> shtrb: i used rdesktop and it has an option for sharing a folder in this manner
[13:08] <hddsata6gb> lotuspsychje,  not what i eant but thats an idea...
[13:08] <SolarisBoy> most of those other programs probably just wrap around it and it's arguments with varying ambiguity on how to use the args
[13:08] <shtrb> I'll check rdesktop
[13:09] <SolarisBoy> yep man page and look for share
[13:09] <lotuspsychje> hddsata6gb: just install xp and install ubuntu next to it after..its not that hard mate
[13:09] <gehuigert> my /etc/fstab: http://pastebin.com/nEGEezRb -- my problem
[13:09] <hddsata6gb> lotuspsychje,  on the linux side just written the pages of code to fix the common problem of  dualbooting..
[13:10] <SolarisBoy> gehuigert: that looks odd
[13:10] <gehuigert> my problem: i wanted to have my UUID blablabla as my /home folder, but since i did that, my desktop and other stuff or corrupted
[13:10] <hddsata6gb> lotuspsychje,  on the xp side it does not show up ... no drive shows..
[13:10] <gehuigert> (i commented the lines out again so i could ask this question lol)
[13:11] <yatta> I know it's not a big deal but can I set type of visualization to nothing in movie player 3.0.1 (I suppose it was)?
[13:11] <lotuspsychje> hddsata6gb:pm me for the windows part
[13:11] <SolarisBoy> gehuigert: what exactly is the issue?
[13:11] <tsimpson> gehuigert:  "/dev/sda3/home" is not correct, it'd just be "/dev/sda3"
[13:11] <mdtanos> is C a good programming language to start off learning programming ?
[13:12] <tsimpson> mdtanos: #ubuntu-offtopic may have an opinion on that
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> mdtanos: try ##programming
[13:12] <SolarisBoy> it actually is
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> I'd say pascal
[13:12] <SolarisBoy> smh
[13:12] <mdtanos> I hear python.. any input ?
[13:12] <mdtanos> heard*
[13:12] <SolarisBoy> ruby
[13:13] <gehuigert> SolarisBoy: my issue: when i use line13 and comment line14, all files in the new partition is root owned in filegroup root
[13:13] <gehuigert> and i cannot change them, so when I'm using apps, they do not have permissions
[13:13] <SolarisBoy> doesn't matter - i say c cause it general / lots of people still actively program and it,, and lost of the logic constructs used are used elsewhere
[13:13] <mdtanos> i see
[13:14] <SolarisBoy> gehuigert: if it's another block device that may be normal - look at man mount options
[13:14] <gehuigert> when i try to change them (sudo chown/chgrp -Rv username *), I get output that the files are changed by owner, but they do not (they remain root owned)
[13:14] <mdtanos> and what is a good start for algorithms/logic in general ?
[13:14] <mdtanos> C as well ?
[13:14] <tsimpson> mdtanos: please keep non support related discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:14] <mdtanos> sorry
[13:14] <wjtaylor> jeezus I need coffee... I'm posting to the wrong channel. Sorry
[13:14] <SolarisBoy> you probably need to _MOUNT_ it as that user rather than permission the folder - if applicable -- what type of File System is it anyway that your mounting with fuse as home?
[13:15] <gehuigert> what do you mean by type of file system? whether it's an internal/external hard drive?
[13:15] <opieng> I have some software that fails at max RAM load in Windows 7, is this problem likely to be avoided in Ubuntu? I think it might be the DEP mode in windows that cause the software to shutdown.
[13:15] <SolarisBoy> is it a ntfs or something?
[13:16] <SolarisBoy> or fat or something else? is what i mean by file system type..
[13:16] <gehuigert> how can i tell? it's probably ntfs but i dont know how to see it on ubuntu
[13:16] <SolarisBoy> you need to know that before you put it in fstab
[13:16] <SolarisBoy> and thats probably the issue as pemissions don't work the same on all FS types..
[13:16] <subz3r0> gehuigert, use gparted and check which filesystem it is.
[13:17] <SolarisBoy> or file -sL....
[13:17] <SolarisBoy> heh
[13:17] <gehuigert> but for gparted i need a live cd, and i'm using xubuntu rather than ubuntu so i'm not sure if that will work
[13:17] <subz3r0> why should gparted not work on xubuntu?
[13:17] <gehuigert> gparted can only be run from a live cd right?
[13:17] <SolarisBoy> no
[13:18] <SolarisBoy> it usually can only operate on disks from a live cd..
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> gehuigert: you can use it to manage USB storages etc
[13:18] <SolarisBoy> but it can open and show you fs types generally -- you can also try the "file" command
[13:18] <lotuspsychje> !ntfs | gehuigert
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> subz3r0: try running:  gksudo gparted
[13:18] <SolarisBoy> it's better to find out what type of FS it is than assume...
[13:19] <subz3r0> ActionParsnip? He needs to know which filesystem hes using... so I told him to use gparted and check it
[13:19] <SolarisBoy> 'sudo file -sL /dev/sda' <--this will work generally just replace the device name..
[13:20] <SolarisBoy> it will print the FS type if it's formatted or say something like data if not or if it's a random fs it has no idea about.. thats all
[13:21] <yatta> I am trying to achieve this --> movie player ubuntu 12.04 type of visualization not selected
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> subz3r0: ah, there inlys the issue :)
[13:21] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: My internet hiccupped a few minutes ago, and I ran "sudo modprobe -r iwl3945; sleep 2; sudo modprobe iwl3945" like you suggested - the first command removed Wireless entirely from my network options, and the last command didn't seem to do anything.
[13:21] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy, and what is when he has more than one parition? ;>
[13:22] <gehuigert> gparted is being installed, do i only need it to check whether my disk is ntfs or not?
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> Yerushalmi: try restarting the networking service
[13:22] <SolarisBoy> a volume with multiple partitions formatted with different fs?
[13:22] <SolarisBoy> is that normal?
[13:22] <SolarisBoy> other than on a SAN or something =(
[13:22] <subz3r0> im my case, yes it is.
[13:22] <subz3r0> Just asked, that he doesnt ran into nowhere =)
[13:22] <subz3r0> run
[13:22] <SolarisBoy> true i guess
[13:22] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: Well, I've already restarted the computer, which is how I'm talking to you now. How do I restart the networking service?
[13:23] <SolarisBoy> i guess a better statement is - better to know whats on the volume than the FS type then lol
[13:23] <subz3r0> i wont tell you ;)
[13:24] <gehuigert> while installing gparted, i get "W: Waited for dpkg --assert-multi-arch but it wasn't there - dpkgGo (10: No child processes)" (synaptic manager)
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> gehuigert: installing what?
[13:24] <gehuigert> gparted
[13:24] <SolarisBoy> subz3r0: theres always this sudo file -sL /dev/sda* ...lol
[13:24] <SolarisBoy> and also file will tell about the partitions it finds i just confirmed
[13:25] <subz3r0> gehuigert, you can use the command of SolarisBoy too. but you have to select the correct parition number like sda1 or sda2 etc...
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> gehuigert: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[13:26] <gehuigert> ActionParsnip: precise
[13:26] <gehuigert> and subz3r0: /dev/sda3: x86 boot sector, code offset 0x52, OEM-ID "NTFS    ", sectors/cluster 8, reserved sectors 0, Media descriptor 0xf8, heads 255, hidden sectors 502810624, dos < 4.0 BootSector (0x80
[13:26] <subz3r0> gehuigert, ok, so what u want to do exactly? Coze I just joined the channel and didnt read the rest...
[13:27] <SolarisBoy> so its ntfs you should probably mount it with ntfs-3g driver
[13:27] <subz3r0> its ntfs btw..
[13:27] <SolarisBoy> and use the options to mount as your user
[13:27] <tsimpson> don't use NTFS in /home
[13:27] <subz3r0> SolarisBoy, so tell him how to do that :)
[13:27] <tsimpson> you'll have buckets of fail
[13:27] <SolarisBoy> sure i was just getting over to my box where its mounted as such
[13:27] <SolarisBoy> but tsimpson is very right
[13:27] <SolarisBoy> you shouldn't use NTFS as home your perms will be all blown to heck
[13:27] <gehuigert> subz3r0: My /home was automatically installed inside the installation partition, I want my /home on another partition, and my fstab file is here (http://pastebin.com/nEGEezRb), but all these files are root owned
[13:28] <n8w> awk 'END { PRINT NR }' data.csv doesnt print anythin, but wc -l data.csv gives the count...can anyone see whats wrong?
[13:28] <subz3r0> ofc, ntfs isnt made for a linux system, neither for the ~/
[13:28] <SolarisBoy> m8: $NR
[13:28] <SolarisBoy> Number of Rows is a variable to awk so prefix it with $
[13:28] <SolarisBoy> and lower case print..
[13:29] <m8> SolarisB1y, :O
[13:29] <SolarisBoy> gehuigert: with ntfs IF you want to mount it (shouldn't as home) there is a user= option you can pass in the fstab
[13:29] <SolarisBoy> it's not exactly that give me a sec..
[13:29] <n8w> SolarisBoy<-- nope,doesnt make any difference
[13:29] <subz3r0> gehuigert, please be so kind and give us some more information. Like how many paritions do you have on this disk, on which partition is /boot, /home etc...
[13:30] <SolarisBoy> n8w: one sec let me try.. it still looks off actually
[13:30] <gehuigert> SolarisBoy, my disk gets automatically mounted as /host, I should just create a symbolic link ?
[13:30] <SolarisBoy> gehuigert: one second
[13:31] <catphish> how do you install 32-bit development libraries on 64-bit systems?
[13:31] <SolarisBoy> n8w: you said it's csv? are you looking to -F',' first?
[13:31] <gehuigert> subz3r0: I have 3 partitions, 1 for windows vista, then 1 with the installation files and then the last 1 I wanted to have my /home inside
[13:31] <n8w> SolarisBoy<-- in another script i hve got this: numoflines=`awk 'END { print NR }' res.csv` n it works ok
[13:31] <SolarisBoy> news to me then =)
[13:31] <subz3r0> gehuigert, so the complete ubuntu is in partition 2(sda2) and sda3 is free?
[13:32] <n8w> SolarisBoy<-- i have tried -F but nothin
[13:32] <gehuigert> yea
[13:32] <SolarisBoy> n8w: can you pasty the file and command your running?
[13:32] <subz3r0> gehuigert, why not using gparted and tell him increase the space from sda3?
[13:32] <SolarisBoy> and lower case print..
[13:33] <subz3r0> i meant increase sda2 from sda3
[13:33] <SolarisBoy> grr - my mouse is very sensitive sorry it rolled up in history
[13:33] <SolarisBoy> http://linux.die.net/man/8/mount.ntfs-3g gehuigert
[13:34] <gehuigert> subz3ro, because I heard /home should rather be on another partition when you want to install ubuntu again in the future
[13:34] <caddoo> I want to make a folder writable to only the user 'apache'
[13:34] <caddoo> how can I do this
[13:34] <n8w> SolarisBoy<-- awk 'END { PRINT NR }' data.csv --doesnt work.... wc -l data.csv --doesn work
[13:34] <gehuigert> solarisboy whant should i do with this ntfs-3g ?
[13:35] <SolarisBoy> gehuigert: its the driver you would use to mount the drive/partition with properly and you would use the uid/gid= options to set the user and group upon mount
[13:35] <subz3r0> gehuigert, that is true, but you dont have to do it. The best thing would be you would have different paritions for everything. like sda2 for /boot, sda3 for /, sda4 for /home... sda5 for /swap
[13:35] <SolarisBoy> IF you wanted to mount an ntfs-3g as home that is
[13:35] <ThinkT510> catphish: add :i386 on the end
[13:35] <subz3r0> gehuigert, but ofc you can backup your home in your case too
[13:35] <SolarisBoy> n8w: i'd like to see atleast a sample of whats in data csv
[13:36] <n8w> SolarisBoy<-- sure,w8 a sec
[13:36] <SolarisBoy> k
[13:36] <catphish> ThinkT510: thanks, i'm compiling on a T510 as it happens
[13:36] <ThinkT510> catphish: cool
[13:36] <gehuigert> SolarisBoy: so basically I install it and run it once with the correct options and it should be okay at all times in future?
[13:37] <SolarisBoy> something like that gehuigert . it runs via fstab, it's a driver which controls the FS and how the system manipulates the same
[13:37] <subz3r0> gehuigert, yes. next time when u want to install ubuntu, just backup your home before and install ubuntu in different partitions
[13:37] <n8w> SolarisBoy<-- http://pastebin.com/P0aZFqP4
[13:37] <caddoo> How do you make a folder writable for a specific user
[13:37] <SolarisBoy> so you tell fstab to use the driver moving forward and yes it's set and forget
[13:37] <subz3r0> gehuigert, it will be way easiert to backup anything then. but for now you can start over with this
[13:38] <SolarisBoy> caddoo: chown the folder to the user and group and chmod it to u+w i guess?
[13:38] <gehuigert> okay thanks a lot, I'll be trying this
[13:38] <subz3r0> gehuigert, its just less work for now. But ofc you can put your home now into sda3,too. depends on how much work you want to invest
[13:39] <user123132> chown www-data.www-data -R <folder> ,may be, try ls -hal /var/www
[13:39] <subz3r0> i would just increase the space of sda2 from sda3
[13:39] <subz3r0> or merge sda3 to sda2
[13:39] <Yerushalmi> ActionParsnip: How do I restart the networking service?
[13:39] <SolarisBoy> or that too if it's what you need =) im just speaking in reference to why your ntfs mount is root only.
[13:39] <n8w> SolarisBoy<-- ok, from within a script, this works: numoflines=`awk 'END { print NR }' data.csv`
[13:39] <n8w> echo $numoflines
[13:40] <catphish> ThinkT510: any idea why i can't install libssl1.0.0:i386 and libssl1.0.0:amd64 at the same time?
[13:40] <subz3r0> Yerushalmi, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[13:41] <subz3r0> restart/start/stop
[13:41] <Sidewinder1> gehuigert, I haven't been following, but IF you are going to shrink/expand an NTFS partition, make sure that you defragment it prior to any changes.
[13:41] <cfhowlett> catphish: cuz ***i386 is for 32 bit systems and ****64 is for 64 bit systems.
[13:41] <SolarisBoy> n8w: it works in and out for me as well
[13:41] <SolarisBoy> n8w: it's the print vs PRINT
[13:41] <catphish> cfhowlett: i know what they're for, i just don't know why i can't install both at the same time
[13:42] <SolarisBoy> apparently awk just blanks out on PRINT - but if you use the method_ print it works
[13:42] <catphish> oh, i think i need multilib
[13:42] <n8w> SolarisBoy<-- OMG:DDD....ye thats it...haha
[13:43] <n8w> SolarisBoy<-- stupid me,cheers m8
[13:43] <SolarisBoy> lol weird one - i guess awk is way more complicated that i ever cared to know about - i didn't even know prefixing the vars with $ was optional
[13:43] <cfhowlett> catphish: I would expect different dependencies.  Also, they're in entirely different repos, are they not?
[13:43] <SolarisBoy> heh
[13:43] <m8> n8w, :O
[13:44] <catphish> cfhowlett: no, they're both available in the repos on a 64 bit system
[13:46] <ThinkT510> !info ia32-libs-multiarch | catphish
[13:46] <ThinkT510> catphish: i think that might be what you need
[13:46] <pii3> Hi again
[13:47] <pii3> can anyone help me with thos LONG term service Ubuntu
[13:47] <pii3> and padlock sha
[13:47] <pii3> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:47] <pii3> :(
[13:47] <FloodBot1> pii3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:47] <BoozeWooz> hello! i would like to boot from SD card, but after booting completed to be continue from USB2 thumbdrive. is this possible?
[13:47] <catphish> pii3: please learn how to ask for help, people won't help you if you say !!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:47] <pii3> sorry
[13:48] <pii3> is there anyway to solve this problem
[13:48] <catphish> it's ok, just wanted to help you find help
[13:48] <subz3r0> BoozeWooz, so you want to boot from SD-Card and then want to do what with the usb-stick?
[13:48] <pii3> please ?
[13:48] <subz3r0> !details | pii3
[13:49] <pii3> ubottu, im trying to connect to my vpn server using pon
[13:49] <BoozeWooz> mm i have odroid-x. it MUST boot from SD-card theres no other option... but sdcard is slow. I have harddisk trough USB2. so i want like, only the most demanding parts to be loaded from SD. then rest eveything from USB2
[13:49] <jeremy5189> Hello, is there any program that can show the RGB of the current mouse position?
[13:49] <galique> Hi,  I would like to use freecade on ubuntu 11.04, but each time I try to launch freecad I have "freecad: /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.15' not found (required by /usr/lib/libCoin.so.60)" However /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 is here! What is the missing .deb package please?
[13:49] <pii3> im trying to connect to my vpn server using pon i set everything for this program but now when i $pon vpn
[13:49] <Wizard> jeremy5189: gcolor2.
[13:49] <pii3> i have
[13:50] <pii3> kernel: [ 2171.523147] padlock: VIA PadLock Hash Engine not detected.
[13:50] <pii3> FATAL: Error inserting padlock_sha (/lib/modules/2.6.32-42-generic/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock-sha.ko): No such device
[13:50] <Wizard> galique: probably something like libstdc++5
[13:50] <subz3r0> pii3, do you read what others write?
[13:50] <pii3> its not possible for me to reinstall new version of ubuntu i have to fix this one Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS 64-Bit
[13:50] <subz3r0> !paste | pii3
[13:51] <catphish> ia32-libs-multiarch seems to be installing all my libs for i386 which is ideal :)
[13:51] <galique> Wizard: but libstdc++5 is too hold! I have albready libstdc++6
[13:51] <BoozeWooz> hmpf.. anyone help? boot from SD, but rest of OS from usb2??
[13:51] <pii3> subz3r0, what u mean ? but no one answer me :(
[13:51] <pii3> i still have a problem
[13:51] <zykotick9> galique: are you on 64bit OS, trying a 32bit binary?  (use "uname -m" to see your bitness, and "file /path/to/freead_executable" will show if it's a 32bit program)
[13:51] <Wizard> galique: I bet they can co-exist.
[13:52] <pii3> on launchpad there is an entry for this bug but no fix
[13:52] <Wizard> galique: And as far as I know, gcc3.x means stdc++5
[13:52] <subz3r0> pii3, you have to follow the rules... and you have to explain exactly what you did and where the problem is
[13:52] <pii3> i did
[13:52] <pii3> do u read my messages
[13:52] <opieng> I have some software that fails at max RAM load in Windows 7, is this problem likely to be avoided in Ubuntu? I think it might be the DEP mode in windows that cause the software to shutdown.
[13:52] <galique> zykotick9: I am on 64 bit system and I only run 64 bit binary
[13:53] <galique> Wizard: http://pastebin.com/b831G72h
[13:53] <pii3> im on ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS 64-Bit , im trying to connect to my vpn server with $pon, but i cannot ! when i less /var/log/syslog
[13:53] <pii3> i have this FATAL error
[13:53] <galique> gcc3.x mean stdc++6 and it stop at GLIBCXX_3.4.14
[13:53] <pii3> modprobe: FATAL: Error inserting padlock_sha (/lib/modules/2.6.32-42-generic/kernel/drivers/crypto/padlock-sha.ko): No such device
[13:54] <cfhowlett> opieng: you mean running windows programs in wine?  If it fails in native windows, don't see how an emulator is going to improve matters...
[13:54] <pii3> subz3r0, do you need more info ?
[13:54] <opieng> cfhowlett, no in full boot windows 7
[13:54] <subz3r0> pii3, youre talking about different things. first you want to fix this isse, then you want to reinstall a newer version of ubuntu?!
[13:54] <ScKBunny> http://secura.e-sim.org/lan.2341/
[13:54] <ScKBunny> http://secura.e-sim.org/lan.2341/
[13:54] <ScKBunny> http://secura.e-sim.org/lan.2341/
[13:54] <FloodBot1> ScKBunny: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:55] <subz3r0> pii3, and you give one information after the next... why not give all essential informations in one hit?
[13:55] <pii3> subz3r0, some told me cannot fix this problem just need to install latest version
[13:55] <ScKBunny> http://secura.e-sim.org/lan.2341/
[13:55] <cfhowlett> opieng: so how do you hope to run this program in ubuntu?
[13:55] <subz3r0> pii3, so why not upgrading when this issue cant be fixed?
[13:55] <ScKBunny> http://secura.e-sim.org/lan.2341/
[13:55] <DJones> ScKBunny: Stop spamming
[13:55] <pii3> subz3r0, really there is no fix for this , even if this is LTS ?
[13:56] <opieng> cfhowlett, the program can run in Ubuntu
[13:56] <cipherboy> Can somebody point me to an article on bridging? Can't seem to do it correctly today, need to set up link to home network via a desktop with two ethernet cards and another desktop, having both with internet connection in the end.
[13:57] <subz3r0> pii3, why should be there a fix, just because its a LTS? i dont get it. if there's a bug, theres a bug.
[13:57] <opieng> cfhowlett, what happens is this... in windows I run the analysis.... when the analysis hits max RAM capacity it shuts down with Error code 5. This error code has something to do with DEP. Windows thinks something doggy is going on so shuts down the application.
[13:57] <ScKBunny> what's up
[13:57] <galique> Wizard: libstdc++5_3.3.6-25_amd64.deb was albready here
[13:57] <galique> so where can I find GLIBCXX_3.4.15 please?
[13:58] <pii3> u said there is a bug and the only solution is to install newer , i said if it is still under support there should be one solution ?
[13:58] <pii3> no ?
[13:58] <cfhowlett> opieng: over my head.  that said, if it'll run in ubuntu, then run the test and find out if you get better results.
[13:59] <opieng> ok thanks, cfhowlett
[13:59] <cfhowlett> opieng: best of luck
[13:59] <subz3r0> pii3, no i did not say that. you said that, i just repeated it.
[13:59] <pii3> plz help me
[14:00] <subz3r0> pii3, you said its a bug, and there is no fix.
[14:00] <catphish> i'm still not sure i've got my head around the multiarch thing, i've installed ia32-libs-multiarch but there are plenty of libs not present
[14:00] <opieng> thanks, oh, by the way... does anyone have Ubuntu installed via Wubi? Currently have windows on my SSD and wanted to install Ubuntu on my HDD, but not sure if I should go through Wubi or proper install?
[14:00] <subz3r0> opieng, skip wubi...
[14:01] <user123132> how about rmmod padlock_sha, and try again ?
[14:01] <opieng> subz3r0, yes I heard there was some disadvantages to it. But I am worried messing with the windows boot system?
[14:02] <vibhav> How does one get gedit to auto-indent his code?
[14:02] <cfhowlett> opieng: wubi is an ubuntu TESTING environment.  it is NOT a permanent installation solution.  So sayeth the wubi developers.  If you're not sure you want a full fledged ubuntu install, consider virtualbox.  Otherwise, dual boot.
[14:02] <galique> where can I find the package GLIBCXX_3.4.15 for my 64 bits system please?
[14:02] <subz3r0> opieng, just do not let grub overwrite the win bootloader
[14:02] <Monkey> hello everybody! can anyone please help me get rid of this error:  error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:02] <cipherboy> Nobody?
[14:02] <Monkey> I am using Ubuntu 12.04
[14:02] <ThinkT510> opieng: avoid wubi
[14:02] <BoozeWooz> bah
[14:03] <opieng> subz3r0, how do I stop the grub overwriting the bootloader?
[14:03] <subz3r0> Monkey, try this: http://mwsite.net/2010/12/23/fix-error-while-loading-shared-libraries-libstdc-libc6-2-2-so-3-cannot-open-shared-object-file-no-such-file-or-directory/
[14:03] <subz3r0> opieng, while the installation you will be asked for where to put grub on
[14:04] <cfhowlett> opieng: even if ubuntu overwrites the windows bootloader, you can repair it with the windows install disk.  (you'll lose the ubuntu boot, of course...)
[14:04] <Monkey> thanks subz3r0. Will try in now.
[14:04] <DJones> cipherboy: I've not done bridging myself, but this link may help you get started http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man5/bridge-utils-interfaces.5.html (for 12.04)
[14:04] <cipherboy> DJones: thanks, will take a look
[14:04] <opieng> subz3r0, where should i put the grub? Is there any realiable guide on this?
[14:05] <cfhowlett> !dualboot|opieng:
[14:05] <subz3r0> opieng, there are hundreds of tutorials out there. just use your favourite search engine and search for ubuntu dualboot windows 7, or similar to this
[14:06] <subz3r0> opieng, also check youtube.com. there are some nice tuts
[14:06] <opieng> brilliant, thanks everyone
[14:08] <GlennS> hey, is this the right place to ask about apt-get packages on Ubuntu?
[14:08] <cfhowlett> GlennS: yes.  ask
[14:09] <Monkey> subz3r0: the link to the package says 404 Not Found.
[14:09] <GlennS> I've been having problems with quite a few of them just not working. In particular: none of solr-jetty, solr-tomcat or tomcat6 appear to actually listen on any ports out of the box.
[14:09] <GlennS> (using Ubuntu server 12.04)
[14:10] <Monkey> subz3r0: Ok found the package. Will install it now.
[14:10] <GlennS> wondering if this indicates something is wrong with my Ubuntu install (fresh install + whatever OVH put on there), or if it's normal for some packages to just not be working correctly?
[14:11] <ThinkT510> GlennS: ovh?
[14:12] <GlennS> yeah, they're my VPS hosting provider
[14:12] <bekks> GlennS: Expected behaviour for the listed daemons. You have to configure them before using them.
[14:12] <GlennS> I see
[14:13] <GlennS> thanks, I shall go and hunt down some docs I figure out what I need to do then
[14:13] <MrBoss> hello someone use headset logitech ?
[14:14] <Monkey> subz3r0: Thanks for your great help sir. It worked. Thanks again.
[14:14] <krababbel> Is there any recent howto for pulseaudio? It can't find any cards. Do you have to add your user to the audio group?
[14:15] <cfhowlett> MrBoss: yeah i do logitech headset
[14:15] <subz3r0> Monkey, you're welcome
[14:16] <BoozeWooz> i need to boot from SD, but rest of OS from usb2?? how i do this?!?
[14:17] <MrBoss> cfhowlett i see g35
[14:17] <Ris1> /msg chanserv help
[14:17] <MrBoss> do you have a problem with use headset Logitech cfhowlett?
[14:17] <datapolitical> anyone in here familar with dropbox and ubuntu server?
[14:18] <datapolitical> i want to install dropbox on my server and use selective sync
[14:18] <subz3r0> BoozeWooz, well. just install ubuntu on the SD, just /boot the rest then on the usb-stick
[14:18] <cfhowlett> MrBoss: mostly none.  for some reason, audacity scrambles the audio during recording, but I'm not sure that's not a 64 bit issue.  Didn't happen when I ran 32 bit ubuntu.
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> datapolitical: I've installed it without X, its a faff but can be done
[14:20] <datapolitical> faff?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> datapolitical: lots of effort
[14:20] <cipherboy> second question, occasionally I boot a computer (nvidia drivers) without a display plugged in. When I open up gnome-control-center to change the display resolution upon plugging in a monitor, it only gives me the minimum display resolution, nothing higher (600 something by 400 something).  How would you go about fixing this other than rebooting?
[14:20] <datapolitical> perhaps you can give me a suggestion
[14:20] <cipherboy> (reason why I don't have a display plugged in is I generally use it as a server)
[14:20] <datapolitical> I'm using Jekyll to blog
[14:21] <datapolitical> and i'm trying to figure out a not insane way to upload posts from an iOS device
[14:21] <datapolitical> which means I have access to dropbox
[14:21] <MrBoss> cfhowlett thanks :D
[14:21] <pheonixman> i am facing a problem with my USB drive. Using Gparted i formated my USB to FAT32, after formatting it Ubuntu 10.10 does not mount it. If i try to mount it manually it mounts but i am not able to create any new folder (in short i loose all permission), i dont know whats happening here, if anyone can help me out
[14:22] <cfhowlett> MrBoss: good luck, have fun
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> datapolitical: sec, i made a bug a bit ago. it shows the procedure.
[14:22] <ThinkT510> pheonixman: 10.10 is no longer supported
[14:22] <cipherboy> datapolitical: what do you gain from jekyll? why not wordpress, joomla, drupal, etc, if you want to do blogging?
[14:23] <datapolitical> a bug?
[14:23] <cipherboy> datapolitical: jailbroken idevice?
[14:23] <datapolitical> no
[14:23] <datapolitical> and i don't need one, if I had a standalone mac it would be easy
[14:23] <datapolitical> if I had a server with lots of capacity it would be easy
[14:23] <MrBoss> cfhowlett what's your headset model?
[14:23] <datapolitical> (just sync the folder in dropbox with my drafts to the _post folder)
[14:23] <datapolitical> simple enough
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> datapolitical: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm/+bug/696302   it will have changed now , but the idea is there
[14:24] <cfhowlett> MrBoss: don't have it with me to look at, sorry.  Purchases in 2011 if that helps
[14:24] <cfhowlett> datapolitical: ubuntuone?
[14:24] <duanyabin> my WxGeometrie  is always   bad  ,i   don`t konw  the reason
[14:24] <datapolitical> ubuntuone?
[14:24] <lolololololololo> how to when lock screen is on log incorrect password(s)?
[14:24] <datapolitical> cypherone static web pages
[14:25] <datapolitical> and posts written in markdown and stored as text files that are rendered into shiny
[14:25] <cipherboy> datapolitical: you said you used it to blog? Quote: I'm using Jekyll to blog
[14:26] <datapolitical> yes
[14:26] <systemd0wn> Question, trying to use alt cd but failing. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/976509 Anyone know a workaround?
[14:27] <cipherboy> datapolitical: Not familiar with Jekyll, but does it take a body of a post and add stuff to the top and bottom similiar to what server side includes would do?
[14:27] <cipherboy> datapolitical: except it generates a static file.
[14:27] <ThinkT510> systemd0wn: are you using the beta 2 cd?
[14:27] <datapolitical> exactly, it's web-server independent
[14:27] <flrns> why are some file extensions (e.g. mp3) not shown by default in nautilus?
[14:28] <systemd0wn> ThinkT510, no. Using the latest as of last night.
[14:28] <datapolitical> so there's no apache config required to make it work
[14:28] <flrns> and how to change that, the settings dialog is pretty small..
[14:28] <datapolitical> it's just serving up rendered HTML
[14:28] <datapolitical> like if i'd built my blog by hand 10 years ago
[14:28] <Monkey> Please help. sudo command is not asking for password. Eg: sudo apt-get update
[14:28] <flrns> monkey: did you enter it before in the same terminal window?
[14:29] <cipherboy> datapolitical: so no online control panel similar to the wordpress to manage these files?
[14:29] <bekks> Monkey: How long ago did you enter the password using sudo? Less than 15 minutes?
[14:29] <cipherboy> Monkey: sudo -k?
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> flrns: file extensions don't mean much
[14:29] <cipherboy> Monkey: `sudo -k` is the command, did you try that?
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> flrns: you can set to show them, most users don't want to see extensions, just like in Windows
[14:29] <flrns> ActionParsnip: well, i want. ;) do you know where i find that setting=
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> flrns: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[14:30] <cipherboy> datapolitical: do you compile it for lack of a better word into a html file on your own system or on the server?
[14:30] <Monkey> Right now I am in root. But I tried sudo while logged in as OtherUser. I tried it several times but it didn't asked for password.
[14:30] <flrns> precise.
[14:33] <Monkey> flrns: When  I tried sudo for the first time, it didn't asked for password. Then I closed the terminal and retried in a new one. Still no password was asked for.
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> flrns: have you looked around in Edit -> Preferences   in nautilus?
[14:33] <flrns> ActionParsnip: yep, cant find it there
[14:33] <unless> Hello guys!
[14:34] <randyz> is this where we get help for mint 13?
[14:34] <Monkey> bekks: I just entered the password at the time of login.
[14:34] <unless> Could someone help me figure out how do I reduce the launcher size at Ubuntu 12.04 please?
[14:34] <ThinkT510> !mint | randyz
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> flrns: try searching dconf for the word nautilus
[14:35] <opieng> why is the 32bit recommend over the 64bit?
[14:35] <ThinkT510> opieng: because it works on both
[14:35] <flrns> ActionParsnip: so i need to install a new programm just to change that setting? Oo
[14:35] <bekks> opieng: Because there is 32bit hardware out there - still.
[14:36] <kingjames> webapps safe to use in precise?
[14:36] <unless> Please?
[14:36] <randyz> sorry i just clicked xchat and it came here. you think it would take you to mint help. sorry again
[14:36] <opieng> sorry I don't understand? what do you mean works on both? I have 64bit hardware, which should I install?
[14:36] <systemd0wn> No one has the alt cd working?
[14:37] <DJones> unless: You shoudl be able to install "myunity" via synaptic/software centre, from memory, that has an option to change the size of the icons in the unity bar
[14:37] <Monkey> cipherboy: sudo -k shows nothing in root session. I think I'll have to switch to OtherUser.
[14:37] <ThinkT510> opieng: 64bit hardware will run 32 and 64bit, 32bit hardware can only run 32
[14:37] <ThinkT510> opieng: if you have 64bit then you may aswell use 64bit
[14:38] <unless> DJones, but if I am not mistaken in there were a option on the System Settings menu to ajust the launcher size at Ubuntu 12.04, no?
[14:38] <opieng> oh ok, I thought it might have something to do with community software support or something?
[14:38] <ThinkT510> Monkey: is this a desktop install?
[14:38] <Monkey> I need to configure my OtherUser account such that it always prompts for password while running sudo command. Please help.
[14:38] <tiziano> era glaciale
[14:39] <compdoc> what package to use to create an iso from a cd?
[14:39] <opieng> Also when installing dual boot with windows (windows installed first), what is the Swap space for? Is this required?
[14:39] <Monkey> ThinkT510: Yes its a desktop install.
[14:39] <DJones> unless: Its not something I used, so I can't say
[14:39] <ThinkT510> Monkey: root login is disabled by default, why are you logged in s root?
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> flrns: yes, the application and the init command to start/stop command
[14:40] <py_can> My vsftpd is not working. I can't connect to it externally...
[14:40] <py_can> I'm suspecting my /etc/hosts is configured badly?
[14:40] <flrns> ActionParsnip: :/ too bad. i gotta switch to another distro soon i feel
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> py_can: can you telnet to the socket from another PC? Can clients ping the server
[14:40] <flrns> ActionParsnip: dont want to have to install special tools just to see file extensions..
[14:40] <ThinkT510> opieng: swap is neccessary for hibernation or suspend
[14:41] <py_can> ActionParsnip: I can connect to it internally
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> flrns: why do you need file extensions
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> py_can: so only outside your LAN is the issue?
[14:41] <py_can> ActionParsnip: i have forwarded ports on my router just fine. The vsftpd just responds with an unroutable address for external clients
[14:41] <opieng> ThinkT510, how much should I allocate to it?
[14:41] <ThinkT510> opieng: its often recommended to have a swap partition though not strictly required
[14:41] <py_can> ActionParsnip: correct
[14:41] <Monkey> ThinkT510: I found a tutorial on google about visudo that mentioned that I need to be logged in as root in order to configure in visudo.
[14:41] <ThinkT510> opieng: at least as much as your ram
[14:41] <Monkey> visudo
[14:41] <flrns> ActionParsnip: no real need. but why do you need a graphical file manager? ;)
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> py_can: thought about using sftp instead, it is default enabled with openssh-server and is secure
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> flrns: I don't ;), too slow
[14:42] <opieng> oh.. I have 16GB RAM... so thats 16GB for swap :)
[14:42] <py_can> ActionParsnip: Yes, I am aware. I personally use winscp to connect trough ssh. But my noob friends need to use FTP
[14:42] <flrns> ActionParsnip: hehe. why do you use ubuntu then? :P
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> flrns: could try a different file manager, there is more than nautilus you know
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> flrns: cosits easy and i'm lazy
[14:42] <beboj> after connecting usb mouse my touchpad seems to be not working at all any help???
[14:42] <Monkey> ThinkT510: This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.
[14:42] <ThinkT510> Monkey: then you listened to a bad tutorial
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> flrns: i actually use a whole bunch of distros
[14:43] <flrns> ActionParsnip:  i see
[14:43] <ThinkT510> Monkey: visudo is something you run as your user (not root)
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> flrns: have you tried pcmanfm?
[14:43] <Monkey> ThinkT510: Any help would be appreciated.
[14:43] <lidar> opieng, you make my 6 gigs of ram feel inadequate
[14:43] <unless> How come the launcher icon size option doesn't appear at my Appearence  menu System Settings?
[14:44] <opieng> lidar, its required for numerical analysis
[14:44] <opieng> lidar, for everything else, its more than required
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> lidar: we manage some medical PCs here with 256Gb RAM..its a beast
[14:44] <sda> hi all, i have a samsung 700z3a. According to powertop 1.97 the "stuff" use more energy is: Audio codec hwC0D3: Intel and  Audio codec hwC0D0: Realtek. I would try to disable both. I know i will not be able to hear anything but maybe i can save some energy. I think the  "Audio codec hwC0D3: Intel" is the audio from HDMI, something I don't use so it can be turn off all the time. Can you help me? thanks!
[14:44] <Monkey> ThinkT510: But when I run visudo, it says: This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.
[14:45] <Nexmanus> Monkey: "sudo" is run as a user, "visudo" must be run with root priviliges
[14:45] <lidar> wb me
[14:46] <py_can> ActionParsnip: Any idea about my ftp problem?
[14:46] <py_can> ActionParsnip: Server sent passive reply with unroutable address. Using server address instead.
[14:46] <py_can> and then it crashes
[14:46] <py_can> or times out
[14:46] <unless> how come???
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> py_can: try:  ftp -vv user@server    from external, see what happens, also check ftp logs
[14:46] <unless> how come launcher icon size doesn't  appear??
[14:46] <py_can> ActionParsnip: this message "Server sent passive reply with unroutable address. Using server address instead.
[14:46] <py_can> " is when i try it from the internet
[14:46] <systemd0wn> Question, Has anyone used the alternative cd lately?
[14:47] <gordonjcp> systemd0wn: that's not a very good question
[14:47] <gordonjcp> !ask | systemd0wn
[14:47] <cfhowlett> systemd0wn: yes.
[14:48] <Monkey> Nexmanus: My problem is, when I login as OtherUser, the sudo command never prompts for password. I need to configure it so that it asks for password whenever the sudo command is executed.
[14:48] <flrns> ActionParsnip: yeah, another file manager seems to be the best way :)
[14:48] <systemd0wn> cfhowlett, did you have to work around this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/976509
[14:48] <lidar> systemd0wn, i used it a few weeks ago it worked fine
[14:48] <cfhowlett> systemd0wn: didn't encounter that issue
[14:48] <grumpy> Good Morning - For some reason my avi sound when playing movies starting cutting in and out does anyone have any idea how to trouble shoot and fix this issue?
[14:49] <systemd0wn> hrm... Mine fails every time on the "select and install software" portion
[14:49] <cfhowlett> systemd0wn: silly to ask, but you DID hashcheck the iso?
[14:50] <systemd0wn> cfhowlett, No... I should have. I will real quick but that seems unlikely.
[14:50] <lidar> grumpy, what cpu / ram i only ever had that problem on slow computers
[14:51] <grumpy> i7 950 24 gigs of ram
[14:52] <jrib> grumpy: time to upgrade definitely
[14:52] <grumpy> I went a little bit over board on ram when building my computer
[14:52] <lidar> grumpy, yeah wow how do you even get on irc with that!
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> grumpy: its cheap, amy as well max the bord out
[14:53] <tech1> 9TB ram
[14:53] <jrib> grumpy: does it happen with other players?  For example mplayer and vlc
[14:53]  * cfhowlett Sweet MERCY what the heck does one do with 9TB of RAM?
[14:53] <grumpy> it happens with vlc, mplayer and totem
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> grumpy: try different output methods in vlc
[14:54] <lidar> grumpy, all file types or only a certain one ?
[14:54] <grumpy> all other formats play well
[14:54] <jrib> grumpy: also, you should rule out the file itself
[14:54] <systemd0wn> cfhowlett, ya the hash is fine.
[14:55] <cfhowlett> systemd0wn: roger that.
[14:56] <systemd0wn> Well If I can't get the alt cd to work is there a way to do full disk encryption from the reg desktop cd?
[14:56] <gordonjcp> grumpy: 24G of RAM?
[14:56] <gordonjcp> grumpy: that's nearly enough to play minecraft!
[14:56] <lidar> systemd0wn, why are you using a beta iso ?
[14:56] <systemd0wn> lidar, I'm not.
[14:56] <flrns> ActionParsnip: i think i tried pacmanfm once.. not sure
[14:56] <grumpy> let  me check if it plays in my virtual machine I'll test it in both ubuntu and windows
[14:56] <systemd0wn> I'm using 12.04.1 alt amd64
[14:56] <flrns> ActionParsnip: will have a look
[14:57] <lidar> the pastebin you posted linked to a beta iso
[14:58] <lidar> http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-amd64.iso should be the one your using
[14:58] <lidar> i meant the launchpad bug
[14:58] <systemd0wn> lidar, the bug was found on the beta2 and hasn't been fixed.
[14:58] <systemd0wn> lidar, yes, that is the one I'm using.
[14:59] <ThinkT510> lidar: lower down in the bug report someone is having the same problem with 12.04.1
[14:59] <subz3r0> systemd0wn, what is not working?
[14:59] <Walther> Powertop shows a discharge rate of 22W on my laptop, which is just silly. I already put all tunables on.
[15:00] <systemd0wn> subz3r0, installing the 12.04.1-alt-amd64. Failes on "Select and install software"
[15:00] <Walther> Are there any ways to further improve power consumption / are devs going ot work on this?
[15:00] <Walther> I used to get >4h battery life on this laptop
[15:00] <Walther> now I can manage 2:30
[15:00] <subz3r0> systemd0wn, did you make a integrity check? md5sum bla.iso?
[15:00] <unless> Hello folks!
[15:00] <systemd0wn> did check md5. it's good.
[15:00] <Walther> Powertop also reports usage 100% for Audio codec: Nvidia and Audio codec: Realtek
[15:01] <systemd0wn> subz3r0, syslog shows "xserver-xorg-video-radeon" is not installable
[15:01] <unless> Sorry, I got disconnected. I was asking about Launcher icon option aren't showing at my Appearence System Settings menu, any ideas please?
[15:01] <subz3r0> systemd0wn, coze i had a similiar problem during the installation. I tried to install from ubs-stick. but the used program for the usbstick made a mistake
[15:02] <subz3r0> systemd0wn, from dvd/cd or usbstick? if usb-stick use unetbootin
[15:02] <systemd0wn> subz3r0, I'll re-make and give it a shot. I'll try anything at this point.
[15:02] <vokevybez> i try to run mugen 1 via wine it brings up this http://pastebin.com/7VHv0PC1 can anyone help me fix this?
[15:02] <subz3r0> systemd0wn, so youre trying it from usb-stick?
[15:02] <systemd0wn> subz3r0, yes.
[15:02] <galicke> Hi, where can I find GLIBCXX_3.4.15 please?
[15:02] <galicke> sudo apt-get install GLIBCXX_3.4.15 => GLIBCXX_3.4.15 not found
[15:03] <opalepatrick> How can I revert system fonts back to out of the box unity 12.04 - since a couple of app crashes earlier, I seem to have a wider spaced font in apps like bluefish. Checked myunity and fonts are all ubuntu.
[15:03] <subz3r0> systemd0wn, used the build in usb-stick-maker of ubuntu?
[15:03] <lidar> vokevybez, you probably nee to create that fike manually \
[15:03] <opalepatrick> Same thing in this x-chat ugh
[15:03] <systemd0wn> subz3r0, used another app "Live linux usb creator" I've always used it.
[15:04] <vokevybez> lidar: i need to delete the one that is there and create my own?
[15:04] <subz3r0> systemd0wn, just try it with unetbootin. It took hours for me to figure out, that the build in usb--stick-maker was fu**** up
[15:05] <systemd0wn> subz3r0, thanks. I'm downloading it now.
[15:05] <subz3r0> systemd0wn, you're welcome
[15:05] <ThinkT510> subz3r0: no need for swearing, even if obfuscated
[15:05] <subz3r0> just let us know if it worked
[15:05] <lidar> vokevybez, sure try it
[15:05] <gordonjcp> actually with current ISOs you can just dd them to a USB stick
[15:05] <grumpy> I opened mythbuntu and it said that "Because this AVI file index is broken or missing, seeking will not work correctly" I'm not sure what that means...
[15:05] <subz3r0> ThinkT510, lol. ok ;D
[15:06] <vokevybez> lidar : okay I will
[15:06] <gordonjcp> grumpy: it means the AVI file is damaged
[15:06] <gordonjcp> grumpy: it may not have finished downloading completely
[15:06] <gordonjcp> grumpy: you can fake your way around it with mplayer --index (or --idx maybe)
[15:06] <DexterF> hi
[15:07] <Walther> So, any info on the power regression?
[15:07] <DexterF> I need the current 12.04 kernel's .config but don't have a 12.04 at hand - in which package would I find it?
[15:07] <gordonjcp> Walther: "power regression"?
[15:07] <Walther> battery life
[15:07] <gordonjcp> what about it?
[15:07] <Walther> powertop reports 22W even after switching all tunables on
[15:07] <vokevybez> lidar : it outputs the same error
[15:08] <Walther> I get 2:30 tops on this laptop, I used to get over 4h
[15:08] <gordonjcp> Walther: maybe your machine is drawing 22W
[15:08] <Walther> It most probably is, but it shouldn't.
[15:08] <lidar> vokevybez, that error is from the file note existing, not bieng where it is looking, or else permissions
[15:08] <Walther> I used to get almost twice the battery life out of this not too long ago
[15:08] <Walther> (no, this is not a case of a dead battery.)
[15:09] <gordonjcp> Walther: what has changed since then?
[15:09] <Walther> ubuntu version?
[15:09] <Walther> and all the updates
[15:09] <grumpy> Weird I was playing the movie the day before yesterday, me and my kid were watching it (Green Lantern Emerald Nights"). Thanks every one...
[15:09] <Walther> I'm talking about a difference between 10.04 and now or something
[15:10] <rejo_mangun> hi
[15:10] <Guest22244> sir , please someone help, trying to update 11.10 to 12.4 but cant see the upgdrade in update manager
[15:11] <Guest22244> sir , please someone help, trying to update 11.10 to 12.4 but cant see the upgdrade in update manager
[15:11] <Walther> Guest22244: try running update-manager -d
[15:11] <vokevybez> lidar: the file exists and its permissions are set so that anyone can read or write it
[15:11] <Guest22244> did that walther but still cant see it
[15:11] <lidar> !patience | Guest22244
[15:11] <vokevybez> lidar : the linux executable does not work either
[15:11] <Walther> Guest22244: sudo apt-get update
[15:12] <k1l_> Guest22244: what happens if you try "update-manager" with alt+f2
[15:12] <Walther> Guest22244: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:12] <lidar> vokevybez, path is wrong perhaps ?
[15:12] <bobweaver> Guest22244, you should be asking this question in #ubuntu+1
[15:12] <ThinkT510> !dist-upgrade | Walther
[15:12] <Guest22244> walther it just says that your system is upto date
[15:12] <vokevybez> lidar : where do i specify the path?
[15:13] <Walther> ThinkT510: I know that. I was just thinking that perhaps he should update his packages first.
[15:13] <Walther> Guest22244: then update-manager should work fine, that's odd
[15:13] <unless> Which app is used to edit Launcher icons size really?
[15:13] <bobweaver> woops my bad read that wrong :/
[15:13] <Walther> Guest22244: see system settings - software sources
[15:14] <Walther> Guest22244: is the check for updates set to "LTS only"
[15:14] <Walther> even if it were it should pull it as 12.04 is an LTS version, but you might want to set it to "any new version"
[15:14] <Walther> and see if it then allows you to upgrade to 12.04
[15:14] <k1l_> Walther: since 12.04.1 is out it would upgrade. i would demand the output of lsb_release and the apt-get output
[15:14] <DJones> unless: As I said earlier, myunity
[15:15] <Walther> k1l_: well you continue
[15:15] <unless> DJones, thank you a lot. :D
[15:15] <k1l_> Walther: gotta leave for family dinner, just meant to give a hint :)
[15:16] <Guest22244> no sir its fime
[15:16] <compdoc> 12.04.01 seems nice, and seems to have fixed several bugs
[15:16] <Guest22244> Walther , sir that looks fine.. is there any other way to upgrade
[15:16] <lidar> Guest22244, new install is always an option !
[15:17] <systemd0wn> subz3r0, haha! Used unetbootin, then when loaded i did a media integrity check and it failed.
[15:17] <galicke> strings /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6 | grep GLIBC me renvoie de GLIBCXX_3.4.1 à GLIBCXX_3.4.14 seulement
[15:17] <galicke> comment obtenir le seul paquet qui permet d'avoir GLIBCXX_3.4.15?
[15:17] <ThinkT510> !fr | galicke
[15:18] <lidar> systemd0wn, you sure the md5sum for that iso is good ?
[15:18] <Guest22244> :) i know lidar but i dont want to burn a dvd
[15:18] <lidar> Guest22244, USB stick install is all the rage now adays!
[15:18] <Guest22244> walther my apt-get update is also not behaving normally
[15:19] <Walther> hmm
[15:19] <quimoniz>  q1o4eRude7144
[15:19] <Walther> Guest22244: what does it say?
[15:19] <systemd0wn> subz3r0, compairing it against: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04.1/MD5SUMS yes it is.
[15:19] <Guest22244> a list of Hit and Igns but no progress there after
[15:19] <subz3r0> systemd0wn, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1963570
[15:19] <Walther> Guest22244: I have no idea what's happening there
[15:20] <lidar> Guest22244, did you manually add sources ?
[15:20] <systemd0wn> subz3r0, thanks I'll take a look
[15:21] <DHR> on 12.04, my automatically created /boot/grub/grub.cfg correctly contains menu entries for my Fedora partition's kernels too.  But if I run grub-mkconfig, the new configfile does not have those entries.  Any idea how to properly get an updated configfile with those entries?
[15:22] <lidar> DHR, could manually copy/paste them in ?
[15:23] <DexterF> nvm, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/configs/precise/
[15:23] <daninoz> hi, does anyone know an app to convert srt subtitles to idx/sub
[15:23] <jrib> DHR: hmm, why run grub-mkconfig?  What does it do exactly?  update-grub is what is recommended after making changes to /etc/default/grub
[15:25] <daninoz> In windows I found txt2vobsub, but I can't find an alternative in ubuntu
[15:26] <DHR> jrib: update-grub's manpage says it is just a grub-mkconfig wrapper that provides a "-o /boot/grub/grub.cfg".  That means that it should produce the same result BUT screw up my grub.cfg file while I'm just testing.
[15:27] <jrib> DHR: make a copy of grub.cfg and verify. Those entries should be coming from /etc/grub.d/* which I know get called when you run update-grub
[15:28] <root__> +i
[15:28] <Crawly> root__: Error: "i" is not a valid command.
[15:28] <root__> j
[15:28] <SomeGuy> !rootirc | root__
[15:29] <jrib> DHR: if the issue persists, then I guess you have to troubleshoot those scrits in /etc/grub.d/*
[15:30] <krababbel> why would xdm suddenly stop loading at boot? init script is there
[15:31] <DHR> lidar: of course I could manually paste them in.  But that surely isn't the proper way.  (1) it would get washed away every time an ubuntu update required updating grub.cfg (eg. a kernel update), (2) it would require me struggling every time Fedora updated its own grub configuration (eg. each time a new kernel is installed).
[15:32] <jrib> DHR: but, yes I just read the update-grub script and it's likely not to make a difference.  So check the scripts in /etc/grub.d/.  There's one there that checks for other linux installs
[15:34] <allb8ni> ciao a tutti
[15:34] <allb8ni> list!
[15:37] <daninoz> hi, does anyone know an app to convert srt subtitles to idx/sub
[15:39] <jrib> daninoz: subs in libsubtitles-perl
[15:40] <tdelam> no, not the right one
[15:40] <tdelam> woops
[15:42] <jrib> daninoz: I've never used it, but the description sounds promising anyway
[15:44] <geemee> Hi there. slightly OT. I have a bash script that I was to save as a PDF (yes that is correct) and for it to display correctly with syntax highlighting. It looks nice in sublime text but ST doesnt print or export as rtf. Any suggestions?
[15:44] <jrib> daninoz: a lot of suggestions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1360129
[15:46] <Roasted> I SSH into my server so much I want to create a keyboard shortcut for it calling a bash script. Only part I'm confused over is how would I get it to call on terminal, THEN issue "ssh me@server.ip" and have it press enter? I'd love to have a keyboard command to instantly bring up an SSH session to my server.
[15:47] <jrib> Roasted: gnome-terminal with -x or -e (try both and see what's the difference).  See « man gnome-terminal »
[15:48] <BluesKaj> Roasted:  you could set up a script to ssh at startup, perhaps or do an alias command in ~/.bashrc , that works from the command line
[15:48] <daninoz> jrib, thanks, but that is only for convert from idx/sub to srt. I need the other way: from srt to idx/sub
[15:49] <jrib> daninoz: ah
[15:50] <jrib> daninoz: if you google "srt2sub" there are some hits for a perl script.  I've never used it.  Are you sure none of the subtitle editors suggested in the forum thread can do this conversion?  Seems kind of surprising
[15:51] <jrib> daninoz: for example, that gaupol program looks fairly comprehensive
[15:55] <daninoz> jrib, that apps work with the sub format, but not with the idx/sub. sub is a text based file, while idx/sub is a graphic based file.
[15:57] <py_can> Can anyone help me with this VSFTPD problem? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2048341
[15:59] <BalthaTczar> someone has experience with mame here ?
[15:59] <dougl> BalthaTczar, a bit - dated tho
[16:00] <BalthaTczar> dougl, i am trying to figure out where to put the roms
[16:00] <BalthaTczar> dougl, also when i start it (have no roms installed at this point) i get a black screen, which is mame but i dont know how to return to the desktop
[16:00] <freyja_> join /#android
[16:01] <alii_> hello
[16:01] <dougl> BalthaTczar, from what I can recall you put them where you think you should on your system (in thier own dir) and point the frontend to the location...
[16:01] <opieng> Will ubuntu see all my 16GB RAM?
[16:01] <lidar> opieng, yes
[16:01] <Spiffing> opieng: sure, why not?
[16:01] <dougl> BalthaTczar, what are you using for a frontend?
[16:02] <opieng> Will it see it all by default I mean? Or would I need to make modifications for it to?
[16:02] <BalthaTczar> dougl, i just installed MAME
[16:02] <dougl> BalthaTczar, in 12.04?
[16:02] <lidar> py_can, disable passive ftp
[16:02] <Spiffing> opieng: as long as you use 64bit it will see it all
[16:02] <py_can> lidar: ok, sec
[16:02] <lidar> the restart the server
[16:02] <alii_> dear E-friends, tell me please - how can I download privat Chatbot
[16:02] <BalthaTczar> dougl, what do you mean by that ?
[16:03] <opieng> ok thanks lidar and Spiffing
[16:03] <dougl> BalthaTczar, you installed mame in ubuntu 12.04 with what method?
[16:03] <py_can> lidar: there is no passive configuration in my vsftpd.conf
[16:03] <BalthaTczar> sudo apt-get install mame
[16:03] <BalthaTczar> if i remember correctly
[16:04] <py_can> lidar: http://pastebin.com/5x330yg4 Here is my config
[16:04] <dougl> BalthaTczar, installing here...pm?
[16:04] <BalthaTczar> dougl sure
[16:04] <llutz> py_can: remove "listen_address" if you want to be access from WAN
[16:05] <llutz> accessed*
[16:05] <py_can> llutz: i did, did not work
[16:05] <py_can> llutz: i put it there just to see if it would work with that specified
[16:06] <py_can> llutz, lidar: I'm pretty sure there is something wrong with my /etc/hosts
[16:06] <synthetix> \list
[16:06]  * synthetix is boring
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> !info mame
[16:07] <Guest30375> hey, im using avant-window-navigator (awn) and even though i have been able to do this in the past, i cannot seem to find the 'no font' option- does anyone either know how to access this, or know the command value that i can enter upon starting the program?
[16:07] <lidar> py_can, add pasv_enable=no
[16:08] <py_can> lidar: looks like that worked. Now i'm getting 500 permission denied errors. Let's see what that's about..
[16:08] <lidar> py_can, hosts is not the problem .. it may be the issue on the remote side if your trying to connect to a hostname
[16:08] <py_can> lidar: i am using a hostname, yes
[16:08] <py_can> to connect to it
[16:08] <Spiffing> !hostname
[16:10] <lidar> py_can, if the hostname resolves to the proper ip address then the hosts file doesnt matter
[16:10] <py_can> lidar: ok
[16:11] <lidar> py_can, also your router might./should be blocking your connection unless you have a seperate connection on the outside for testing
[16:11] <py_can> No, I'm quite certain it's working correctly because SSH and apache work fine lidar
[16:12] <py_can> i'm just getting permission errors now ;)
[16:13] <Rasputin2> hey, im using avant-window-navigator (awn) and even though i have been able to do this in the past, i cannot seem to find the 'no font' option- does anyone either know how to access this, or know the command value that i can enter upon starting the program?
[16:13] <unless> brb
[16:14] <py_can> lidar: any clue? :D
[16:15] <py_can> i really have no idea what the problem is. I reinstalled ubuntu, vsftpd was working fine yesterday.
[16:15] <py_can> on my old install
[16:15] <py_can> with the same router settings
[16:16] <krababbel> why would xdm suddenly stop loading at boot? init script is there
[16:16] <Guest18580> krababbel: have you tried other display managers?
[16:17] <krababbel> Guest18580: yes, but I like this one, the others had other problems
[16:17] <oskar-> py_can:  what is the problem actually? i just came in...
[16:17] <krababbel> Guest49714: it worked, but after a reboot suddenly it won't start on its own, I can start it after i log into console
[16:17] <py_can> oskar-, External clients couldnt connect to my VSFTPD server. So I set pasv_enable=NO, and now it works. But after login in, the ftp server spews out a "500 Illegal PORT command." error and time out.
[16:18] <py_can> oskar-, locally it works fine
[16:18] <py_can> oskar-, it also gives me a "Command:	PASV - 550 Permission denied."
[16:18] <Guest49714> exit
[16:19] <W4sp> py_can: Your firewall prevents passive mode.
[16:19] <py_can> W4sp, firewall in my router or on my server?
[16:20] <W4sp> py_can: The command works fine but data port isn't allowed to open.
[16:20] <py_can> W4sp, so specify port 20 as a data port and open that up @ router?
[16:20] <W4sp> py_can: s/command/command port/
[16:21] <py_can> W4sp, I see. And this is due to iptables on my server.. or my router? open up 20 as a data port?
[16:22] <W4sp> py_can: You need to tell your fw that. If data port is fine for client let data port proceed to open. What is your firewall?
[16:22] <lidar> py_can, http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/network-internet/466059-vsftp-not-allowing-external-connections.html check this out
[16:22] <aguitel> i want to boot iso image stored in my hd ,how i do with unetbootin ?
[16:22] <Elvano> Is there a way to easily decrease the stress that Ubuntu exercises on my graphical card
[16:22] <W4sp> py_can: Sorry if you mentioned that already. I just popped in.
[16:22] <py_can> W4sp, I dont have a firewall. I have a fresh ubuntu server installation and a router with NAT im presuming
[16:22] <py_can> W4sp: Already glad someone is willing to help :)
[16:22] <oskar-> py_can:  afaik, loading the module "nf_conntrack_ftp" should help with this issue, on all firewalls in between...
[16:22] <py_can> lidar: thajnks
[16:23] <fellayaboy> clear
[16:23] <dedesigns57> does anyone here using chromium?
[16:23] <hwkiller-netbook> I do
[16:23] <lidar> py_can, scroll that down a bit heposted a solution
[16:23] <safinaskar> dedesigns57: i am using
[16:23] <py_can> lidar: ok!
[16:24] <dedesigns57> do you guys have two window function keys
[16:24] <dedesigns57> eg max min and close
[16:24] <wilee-nilee> aguitel, If you have a ubuntu install in the mix using grub you can add the ISO to the grub menu to boot.
[16:24] <py_can> lidar: but when I enable passive mode, I get the "server responded with a bad routable address"
[16:24] <dedesigns57> i have the one ubuntu puts on it plus another set right below it
[16:24] <py_can> lidar: the solution makes me enable passive, which i know doenst work
[16:25] <lidar> he enabled passive assighned the ports for it to use and then forwarded those ports from his router
[16:25] <dougl> BalthaTczar, I have "Gnome Video Arcade" running on my Kubuntu 12.04 install with nothing configured...
[16:25] <py_can> lidar: ok
[16:25] <aguitel> wilee-nilee, how do that
[16:25] <py_can> lidar: trying now
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> aguitel, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[16:25] <lidar> py_can, only need to assighn like 3 ports for testing
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> dedesigns57: which app has this?
[16:25] <dougl> Why does BalthaTczar not have the same packages available to him in Ubuntu as I do in Kubuntu?
[16:25] <BalthaTczar> dougl, ill check the software center
[16:26] <dedesigns57> chrome/ chromiuim
[16:26] <cosming>  I accidentaly formated a ext4 partition to swap; how could I recover?
[16:26] <lidar> dougl, diffrent sources for apt ?\
[16:26] <BalthaTczar> dougl, gnome video arcade is available in the software center
[16:26] <dougl> lidar, ok - thanks
[16:26] <BalthaTczar> dougl, that is a front end for mame ?
[16:26] <dedesigns57> it just seems like bad integration with the extra set of function keys on the top left of the window
[16:26] <dougl> BalthaTczar, you found it?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> dedesigns57: it'll do that if you don't have it maximized afaik
[16:27] <dougl> BalthaTczar, yes frontend you can configure and browse roms I believe...
[16:27] <dedesigns57> o so you get it too?
[16:27] <intuxicated> what is default archive manager in ubuntu ?
[16:27] <dedesigns57> when not maximized that is
[16:27] <xangua> intuxicated: nautilus
[16:27] <safinaskar> cosming: use some program for partition recovery
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> cosming, you had data you need on the partition?
[16:27] <dougl> BalthaTczar, if you found it lets go private so we dont do off topic in here
[16:27] <intuxicated> xangua, is it not filemanager ?
[16:27] <safinaskar> cosming: for example, "testdisk"
[16:27] <W4sp> It is -dial - +8816 followed by number.
[16:28] <ring0> intuxicated, file-roller
[16:28] <dedesigns57> Action is there a way to fix it or do you just live with it?
[16:28] <intuxicated> ring0, ty
[16:28] <ring0> intuxicated, yw
[16:28] <steven_> hello,every body
[16:28] <safinaskar> cosming: but note: testdisk recover one partition and deletes other :) so, make sure that you recover your partition but leave other unchanged
[16:28] <oskar-> cosming:  you could try to find out the positions of the ext4 superblock copies by "mkfs.ext4 -n", then try to repair it with that information. there are several howtos on the web...
[16:28] <steven_> i am  a fresh man
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> dedesigns57: you could report a bug, as far as I know it's a known issue
[16:29] <safinaskar> cosming: also try "acronis disk director". of course, this is not open-source world and not linux-world solution, but it works
[16:29] <dedesigns57> okay thanks
[16:31] <oskar-> cosming:  but before you try anything, you should make a complete backup of that volume with something like: dd if=/dev/sdXY of=/mnt/bigspace/mybackup bs=1M conv=notrunc
[16:33] <matts45acp> can someone help me see if my harddrive is functioning properly
[16:34] <lidar> matts45acp, your back again :O
[16:35] <matts45acp> lidar, sure am
[16:35] <matts45acp> lidar, back with more questions
[16:35] <fidel> matts45acp: the app 'Disk Utility' offers reading the samrt data
[16:35] <wilee-nilee> matts45acp, You can use the smart data function in the disk utility of the install or a live cd.
[16:35] <fidel> if that is what you are looking for
[16:36] <py_can> lidar: It works! Love you!
[16:37] <matts45acp> lidar, seems disk utility is installed how do i run it
[16:39] <oguz> anybody knows hot to change the BIOS settings from command line?
[16:39] <oguz> hot=how
[16:40] <compdoc> oguz, not sure thats a good idea, even if its possible
[16:40] <lidar> oguz, reboot press f2 f12 or whatever ... to access it
[16:40] <matts45acp> lidar, says i have a few bad sectors how do i fix that?
[16:40] <oguz> compdoc: i am trying to do a central BIOS update for thinclients
[16:41] <lidar> matts45acp, fsck
[16:41] <oguz> lidar: i am searching for thinclients
[16:41] <matts45acp> lidar, whats fsck and how do i get it?
[16:41] <krababbel> What package do I need to have basic gtk3 support? gtk3-engines seems not enough.
[16:41] <compdoc> matts45acp, if its has reallocated sectors, you need a new drive
[16:43] <trism> krababbel: are you compiling code? if so, libgtk-3-dev
[16:43] <Yerushalmi> I'm going crazy here. Every so often my computer randomly disconnects from the wifi, and I can't reconnect until I restart. Can anybody help me with this?
[16:43] <lidar> Yerushalmi, have an error message from syslog or dmesg ?
[16:44] <krababbel> trism: No, I have some glitch in gnome-system-monitor, because it wants gtk3. I installed a commandline system, so gtk3 seems missing
[16:44] <Yerushalmi> lidar: How do I find out?
[16:44] <DHR> matts45acp: fsck is a command-line tool.  What kind of bad sectors do you have?  SMART classifies them.
[16:44] <trism> krababbel: if an app in the repos needs gtk3, it will dep on it, so you shouldn't need to do anything special
[16:44] <jrib> krababbel: what glitch?
[16:45] <lidar> Yerushalmi, after it disconnects open a xterm and type dmesg
[16:45] <|Anthony|> how can i use nautilus search to find any file that contains the string "sant" regardless of case?
[16:45] <krababbel> jrib, trism: gnome-system-monitor falls back to gtk2, and there are black areas in the window.
[16:45] <DHR> There are sectors that have been relocated (OK if there are not too many; they've been dealt with).  There are sectors pending relocation -- not good, need action.
[16:45] <trism> krababbel: that seems more like a theming problem
[16:46] <krababbel> trism: I have no gtk.rc files here, so I am looking for a package which would generate them for me.
[16:46] <matts45acp> reallocated sector count is what it says
[16:46] <DHR> matts45acp: not relocated?
[16:46] <jrib> krababbel: my suggestion would be to create a fresh new user and see if the issue persists when you log in with the new user
[16:47] <matts45acp> dhr, no reallocated
[16:47] <RyuGuns> Where are man pages stored? /usr/local/man is empty.
[16:48] <DHR> matts45acp: oops, you are right.
[16:48] <DHR> matts45acp: not a problem unless there are too many OR the number is growing.
[16:48] <trism> RyuGuns: /usr/share/man/
[16:48] <matts45acp> dhr, says just 2
[16:48] <DHR> matts45acp: should be OK, but keep monitoring it to see if it grows.
[16:49] <RyuGuns> trism: Found it, thanks!
[16:49] <oskar-> matts45acp: i would simply exchange the drive, if you still have warranty...
[16:49] <DHR> matts45acp: when a sector shows a problem, the hard drive tries to recover the data, it allocates a new replacement sector, and stores the data there.
[16:50] <DHR> matts45acp: few manufacturers will let you exchange under warranty for a few reallocated sectors.
[16:50] <oskar-> my experience is the opposite of that...
[16:51] <Hann> Hii everyone. Sorry if I'm interrupting something. I just finished installing Ubuntu the other day, but found out I screwed up my Windows partition, I think. The C:/ drive is still there with all my data, but Windows won't start. =/ I've been looking around for help, I'm not sure what to do. I think it may have to do with the fact that the C drive isn't mounted, or maybe I deleted an important partition in the whole dual booting process... 
[16:51] <DHR> matts45acp: each manufacturer produces diagnostic software.  For an exchange, that software must declare the drive deffective.  And it won't for a few rallocated sectors.
[16:52] <DHR> matts45acp: if you kick up a fuss, a CSR might well OK and exchange.
[16:53] <|Anthony|> how can i use nautilus search to find any file that contains the string "sant" regardless of case?
[16:53] <wilee-nilee> Hann, did you remove the windows boot partition, and or use the ubuntu installer to resize windows?
[16:54] <trism> krababbel: if you aren't using gnome-settings-daemon, you might try: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/25084/gtk-theme-wont-apply-in-fluxbox (and make sure gnome-themes-standard is installed so you at least have one gtk3 theme available)
[16:54] <Yerushalmi> lidar: Output of dmesg is here: http://pastebin.com/bbrtVCm3
[16:54] <krababbel> trism: thanks a lot?
[16:54] <krababbel> !
[16:55] <asayafa> Guys , myt Ubuntu dont want speak with Windows 7 on LAN... wtf? Comunication with Windows XP /9x /MAC OS X is okay...
[16:55] <Hann> I used Gparted for partitioning. I deleted the smallest partition there was, which was 1 MB. :( When I did that, it also messed up another partition, which was 100 MB big (that one went from having a label, to unallocated space). I think those were the recovery partitions. But, my C drive is still there, with all my data.
[16:56] <krababbel> trism: although that package won't pull any gtk3 theme it seems. Won't I need at least an enginge, like gtk3-engines-unico? Is that what you meant by "theme"?
[16:56] <DHR> Hann: there are a lot of Windows boot failure modes.  Can you not get Ubuntu's grub to boot Windows (which Windows?  Which OEM?)
[16:56] <Hann> the C drive was a boot partition, but now it doesn't have the boot label anymore. I'm looking at the partitions now on gparted
[16:56] <|Anthony|> Hann, google ubuntu boot-repair
[16:56] <DHR> Hann: what's a boot label?  Do you mean "boot record"?
[16:56] <Hann> The grub shows Windows 7 loader...
[16:57] <Hann> the column that says "flags" in gparted. it says boot on the part that has ubuntu, but nothing for C
[16:57] <DHR> When Linux resizes a Win partition, things get broken (superstition, not science).
[16:57] <trism> krababbel: unico is the ubuntu theming engine, gnome-themes-standard has adwaita, the default gtk3 one
[16:58] <trism> krababbel: you can of course install gtk3-engines-unico and light-themes
[16:58] <krababbel> trism: thanks, aidawata is missing in the package description
[16:58] <DHR> Hann: the boot flag is obsolete.  Mostly ignored.  Bog standard MBR used to pay attention to it.
[16:59] <DHR> I don't think Win7 MBR or Grub MBR care about boot flag.
[16:59] <Hann> Oh, ok. I'm looking at boot-repair now.
[16:59] <lidar> Yerushalmi, its just tired trying to deep sleep all the time
[17:01] <lesshaste> what's the name of the fortran compiler?
[17:01] <bruno_> window 0
[17:01] <n8w> anyone runin ubuntu in virtual box?
[17:02] <n8w> or any other virtualization soft
[17:02] <Hann> I'm sad, lol. I finally got Ubuntu to work without wiping my computer. And then Guild Wars 2 comes out yesterday after five years of waiting. ;-;
[17:03] <lidar> n8w, yes at various times
[17:03] <DHR> lesshaste: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2039074
[17:03] <hector__> i`ve just installed ubuntu on my new laptop, it came with gtx 570m and i want the proprietaty video driver installed.. how do i know if it`s already installed or not?
[17:03] <n8w> lidar<-- i was just wonderin, does also takes u ages to do any kind of update?
[17:04] <DHR> hann: did you resize your windows partition?
[17:04] <lidar> Yerushalmi, google that "MAC is in deep sleep"  i bet there is a solution disabling the wake on lan or some sort of power mode in your card
[17:04] <n8w> lidar<-- it takes forever to even execute 120kb update(apt-get install )...setup: i7,6G ram
[17:05] <lidar> n8w, how much ram did you assighn it ?
[17:05] <Hann> no, i left that one alone. I resized the D drive, then made a new partition that i put ubuntu on
[17:05] <DHR> Hann: it is unlikely that Win (8?) is broken then.
[17:05] <wilee-nilee> Hann, The 200 mb was a boot partition
[17:06] <DHR> Hann: deleting recovery partitions is a bad idea
[17:06] <n8w> lidar<-- 2G
[17:06] <Hann> yeah, i know that now
[17:06] <Hann> i didn't know those were recovery partitions
[17:06] <etu`> Hey guys, I'm running an Ubuntu-server 10.04.1 LTS, I think. We run lighttpd and php (fcgi)... and last week, PHP started to leak memory, for no reason. We run the same code on another box and there's no probs... I get sms every 4 hour about it this entire weekend that free mem is low on the box...
[17:06] <Hann> i thought it was in the d drive
[17:06] <etu`> Any known probs around this?
[17:06] <opieng> I have 16GB RAM, do I really need to install ubuntu with 16GB of swap space? Not sure what to do?
[17:07] <hector__> i`ve just installed ubuntu on my new laptop, it came with gtx 570m and i want the proprietaty video driver installed.. how do i know if it`s already installed or not?
[17:07] <etu`> I want to sleep tonight, havent got my weekend yet... rly... and monday tomorrow.
[17:07] <jrib>  opieng if you want to be able to suspend to disk
[17:07] <dougl> BalthaTczar, you still here?
[17:07] <DHR> Hann: worst case, use your recovery DVDs and re-initialize your disk to factory fressh.
[17:07] <opieng> jrib, suspend to disk?
[17:07] <lidar> opieng, if your going to use suspend and sleep i think you need to have equal or more swap as your ram is
[17:07] <jrib> opieng: hibernate in windows
[17:08] <Hann> rebooting computer, hopefully boot-repair worked!
[17:08] <DHR> Hann: what happens when grub tries to chainload Windows?
[17:08] <Hann> chainload?
[17:08] <opieng> ahhh ok
[17:08] <lidar> hector__, lsmod will show what modules are bieng used
[17:08] <hector__> thank you lidar
[17:09] <DHR> Hann: from my grub.cfg: chainloader +1
[17:10] <hector__> i see nouveau loaded lidar , it`s the open-source driver not the proprietary one, right?
[17:11] <Hann> Still not sure what you mean... when I select windows from the grub, the windows logo shows up as if it's starting, then the screen goes black and the computer restarts. If i select windows again, it says start up was abnormal probably because of some hardware or software change then gives me a list of safemode start up options, but it still won't start.
[17:12] <lidar> hector__, that i am not sure of
[17:12] <wilee-nilee> Hann, Post the script that is generated on using that app, the http address
[17:12] <lidar> Hann, looks like your starting over!
[17:12] <etu`> lidar, hector__: the non-free is named "nvidia"
[17:13] <Hann> Sorry. What app are you talking about?
[17:13] <etu`> but does anyone know about any known mem-leaks in php in ubuntu 10.04 server LTS?
[17:13] <DHR> Hector__: look under System Settings: Hardware: Additional Drivers
[17:14] <DHR> Hann: the fact that it gives you those choices sounds hopeful.
[17:14] <DHR> Hann: will none of the choices work?  Do any of them sound useful?
[17:15] <Hann> Let me try. If it does, then I won't come back... If it doesn't, I'll be back soon. :P
[17:15] <lesshaste> DHR: thx
[17:17] <|Anthony|> i have a font installed and in use on my system, but i can't for the life of me find where it lives
[17:17] <|Anthony|> been trying to use nautilus search to find it, but i'm coming up empty
[17:17] <|Anthony|> suggestions?
[17:18] <jrib> |Anthony|: how did you install it?
[17:18] <DHR> |Anthony|: try the locate(1) command
[17:18] <lidar> |Anthony|, try locate fontname
[17:18] <|Anthony|> it was over a year ago...
[17:18] <|Anthony|> i kinda forget
[17:18] <jrib> |Anthony|: did you use the package manager or install it yourself?
[17:18] <|Anthony|> jrib, i installed it myself
[17:19] <jrib> |Anthony|: probably ~/.fonts/
[17:19] <hector__> DHR: thank you for the information, i`m going to check it right now.. just in case if it`s using the open-source driver can i just download the proprietary one and install it or it requires me to unistall the open-source one?
[17:19] <|Anthony|> lidar, locate "santana" turned up empty
[17:19] <DHR> Hector__: that tool is supposed to take care of all the details.
[17:19] <|Anthony|> jrib, gosh darnit
[17:20] <|Anthony|> it's right there
[17:20] <|Anthony|> now i feel dumb
[17:20] <|Anthony|> >.<
[17:20] <DHR> Hector__: you might need to unlock it.
[17:20] <Hann> Ooookay, so I tried to start windows in safe mode, and it started loading the drivers. It stopped and restarted when it got to system32/DRIVERS/CLASSPNP.SYS
[17:21] <hector__> DHR: got it, it says no proprietary drivers are in use in this system
[17:21] <jrib> Hann: out of context, that really doesn't seem to belong in this channel
[17:21] <Hann> Ah sorry, I'm trying to recover windows after dual booting ubuntu
[17:21] <sam___> hey . I installed ClamTK and now GUI Version is not enabled in clams windows why? do i need to enable it?
[17:21] <hector__> DHR: there`s no option to get one, so i am guessing i should just grab a copy of the latest driver from nvidia page itself and install it myself, right?
[17:22] <DHR> hector__: the tool does let you install if you unlock (which requires a password).  Do NOT download the driver by hand.
[17:23] <wobert_> hello
[17:23] <hector__> DHR: can you tell me how i am supposed to unlock it, it`s not asking me a password or anything
[17:23] <wobert_> first time here
[17:24] <wobert_> is there anyone who can help me solve my wireless connection? I am currently accesing internet with a cable, that is one of my issue with a recent upgrade
[17:25] <wobert_> also bash is not showing the promt, and firefox is not working :(
[17:25] <krababbel> trism: Sorry, GTK3 works, I had to create a .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini too. I would like to config GTK2 now also, can I just use the same content of the gtk3 config? The theme I have to change to a gtk2 theme of course.
[17:27] <rsajdok|android> T
[17:28] <Guest48761> siemka
[17:28] <wobert_> anyone can help me solve wireless issue, bash not showing prompt & firefox not opening?
[17:29] <harris> does anyone know a lot about hard drives
[17:29] <DHR> Hector__: to be honest, I don't know how to unlock it.  My machine has no proprietary drivers available.  You could try "sudo jockey-text"
[17:30] <DHR> harris: yes, surely
[17:30] <harris> dhr can we pm
[17:31] <dataholic> how do i check the version of the package?
[17:31] <dataholic> like in other unix pkg_info
[17:31] <DHR> wobert: you've got a lot of problems.  Do you think that they are related?
[17:31] <harris> DHR,  can we pm
[17:31] <DHR> harris: I didn't claim to know a lot about hard disks.  And I'm not interested in private conversations.
[17:32] <harris> who knows a lot about hard drives
[17:32] <DHR> harris: ask your question.  Those who know an answer might respond.
[17:32] <krababbel> trism: looks like more of a libreoffice-gtk3 issue, thanks again :)
[17:32] <wobert_> not really DHR, firefox issue happenned before my recent upgrade
[17:33] <harris> can you convert a 3.5 hard drive to 2.5
[17:33] <wobert_> wireless configuration was hard last time I had issues
[17:33] <wobert_> but I do not know how to solve the wireless issue with this latest ubuntu version
[17:33] <DHR> harris: mechanically?  Not likely if you want it to still function.
[17:33] <harris> wobert_,  clean install
[17:34] <harris> they make 2.5 to 3.5 adapters but i need it vice versa
[17:34] <wobert_> yesterday I discover that batch windos does not show the prompt , which is not excited
[17:34] <hector__> DHR: why i shouldnt try to install the driver myself?
[17:34] <harris> wobert_,  clean install
[17:34] <wobert_> clean install what?
[17:34] <mobhero> hi, what will be the 27 hard disk number-- eg /dev/sda, /dev/sdb ....... /dev/sdz after that ???? pls help me
[17:34] <DHR> wobert_: work on one at a time?  Easiest is probably bash problem
[17:34] <harris> reinstall ubuntu
[17:34] <py_can> How can I prevent users that use php on my server to look at the whole system trough "echo passthru($cmd)" ?
[17:35] <wobert_> DHR, what do you suggest me to do for the bash problem ?
[17:35] <DHR> hector__: going outside the packaging system (.deb) and distro is tricky and you don't seem to be on top of arcane parts of the system.
[17:36] <lidar> mobhero, is this homework ?
[17:36] <DHR> hector__: jockey is supposed to know how to do the tricky things, within ubuntu packaging universe.  If it doesn't know how, there may be a reason.
[17:36] <DHR> wobert_: what, in gory detail, is the bash problem
[17:37] <mobhero> lidar --- sorry i didn't get u...
[17:37] <wobert_> ctrl + alt + t =  terminal without a prompt to add text
[17:37] <lidar> mobhero, looks like your asking a school question
[17:38] <wobert_> that is the issue DHR
[17:38] <mobhero> lidar --- i want to know the answer for this lida...
[17:38] <wobert_> that been said, it is the black terminal (bash) without letting type anything since the prompt is not appearing
[17:38] <mobhero> lidar..
[17:39] <Yerushalmi> lidar: Wow, you have NO IDEA. Apparently every single person in the history of the world with the Intel 3945 wireless card has this problem. And apparently NOBODY knows how to fix it. I found one thread that /might/ have a solution... now I just have to wait and see if it crashes again...
[17:39] <DHR> Harris: if you have a slot for a 2.5" drive, then you are unlikely to have room for a 3.5: drive.  That is probably why adapters are not common, I guess.  Do you mean mechanical adapters or cables?  SATA or PATA?
[17:39] <DHR> Wobert: what about running "terminal"?
[17:39] <harris> idk i am going to find a broken computer and take out the hardrive
[17:40] <wobert_> DHR, same result
[17:41] <xiambax> Whats the powerpc ubuntu channel?
[17:41] <DHR> wobert: sounds as if some initialization file is busted. (~/.*).
[17:42] <wobert_> DHR, how can we check that?
[17:42] <DHR> wobert_: simple test: add a new user, log on as that new user, see if the new user has the same problem
[17:42] <wobert_> DHR, let me do that
[17:42] <lidar> Yerushalmi, yeah seems to be a bug for sure you might wanna check out some kernel lists also maybe someone there might have soemthing
[17:43] <lidar> Yerushalmi, its a kernel issue not a specific ubuntu issue it seems
[17:43] <Yerushalmi> lidar: *nods* Every ubuntu version since like 9 has had it, so I'd gathered.
[17:44] <wobert_> DHR, nice! the guest user terminal works !
[17:44] <bond_> are there any tools to remove sata passwords from hdds for linux?
[17:44] <DHR> Yerushalmi, lidar: wireless is an area where the lack of manufacturers' help holds back Linux.  Lots of variety, a modest number with problems.
[17:44] <Guest65782> whats going on room
[17:45] <DHR> wobert: what does /etc/passwd for your UID say (last field should list your shell).  Is it different from the new user?
[17:46] <lidar> DHR, yeah with push of linux in popularity i hope all the manufacturers dedicate more time / info to the kernel developers
[17:48] <DHR> wobert_: most likely . files to be a problem: .bash*
[17:48] <Yerushalmi> lidar: What I don't get is how this computer managed to avoid developing this problem in the year that I've had it, and what changed just now. But oh well... pray the fix I found actually works :)
[17:49] <wobert_> DHR, how can we fix it?
[17:50] <lidar> kernel version could be the key
[17:51] <py_can> How can I prevent users that use php on my server to look at the whole system trough "echo passthru($cmd)" ?
[17:51] <py_can> i guess this question doesnt belong here
[17:52] <crazySDman> Wow, seems http://ubuntu.com  has blocked my IP for hitting it often with lotta the same requests from my startup script. Help!
[17:52] <lidar> crazySDman, what kind of startup script ?
[17:54] <crazySDman> lidar: one I've made myself. I run a liveboot system, but I apt-get install a lot of stuff rather than make it off my drive. so once or twice a day my IP hits ubuntu.com with the same sorts of requests eg "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras build-essential ..."
[17:55] <lidar> crazySDman, thats kind of rude !
[17:55] <DHR> wobert_: choice (1) learn shell complexities and debug.  or (2) one at a time, replace your .bash* files with those from the new user until things work.
[17:55] <FlatPenny> Hi. I'm trying to convert a sequence of JPGs to a video, and nothing I've found has worked so far (convert, ffmpeg, mencoder). Any experts?
[17:55] <crazySDman> lidar: yeah, I guess so, but I imagine a lot of people running liveboot systems do the same...? At any rate, what should I do! :o
[17:55] <lidar> crazySDman, you should save the files and just update them once a week or so
[17:55] <octi> .
[17:55] <crazySDman> lidar: agreed
[17:56] <Aethrs> I just upgraded to 12.04, what package do I install to give me something other than unity?
[17:56] <crazySDman> lidar: I just haven't quite figured out how to do that yet, like with the prefix= for make & make install...
[17:56] <crazySDman> lidar: so instead of figuring it out, I've just been apt-get install'ing for quite a while :\
[17:56] <lidar> Aethrs, try out xfce of lxde
[17:56] <Aethrs> lidar- Is there just a gnome or something?
[17:56] <Aethrs> or kde?
[17:57] <ThinkT510> !notunity | Aethrs
[17:57] <lidar> Aethrs, sure .. try them all out use the one you like
[17:57] <wobert_> DHR , thanks for your help it will take alot of time from either of the two solutions
[17:58] <luftikuss> I wonder why Ubuntu 12.04.1 installs the package gnupg by default and not gnupg2.
[17:58] <Aethrs> Thanks ThinkT510 :)
[17:59] <crazySDman> lidar: is there anything I can do in the meantime to get unbanned so I can install enough stuff to figure out how to not have to go about apt-get installing everything? :)
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> aetaric: install gnome-panel, log off then select the new session
[18:03] <lidar> crazySDman, i dont know about an unban ... try using a difreent mirror perhaps
[18:03] <crazySDman> so instead of archive.ubuntu.org and security.ubuntu.org ... ?
[18:04] <savio> hey
[18:06] <trism> crazySDman: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors might help
[18:06] <crazySDman> ok thanks
[18:07] <fcanela> Hi! There is any way to make applications output sound both for headphones and aux?
[18:09] <luftikuss> fcanela: Try alsamixer.
[18:10] <louiemat> does anyone have ubuntu 12.10 installed - what do you think?
[18:10] <Signux> Hi! I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 (64-bit) as part of a dual-boot system. I haven't used Windows for months and I'd like to get rid of it. Is there any ways to remove windows without affecting on linux (  like bootloader ) and space up linux file system??????
[18:10] <fcanela> I looked, but as far as I could use it, it enables aux, but does not duplicate master output into auxiliar
[18:10] <luftikuss> louiemat: I know some persons who have. But for details, visit #ubuntu+1.
[18:12] <luftikuss> Signux: In this channel it is impolite so send more than one question marks in a row.
[18:13] <Signux> luftikuss : sorry..
[18:14] <xiambax> Well. I'm installing 12.04 on my iMac G4. See how this goes
[18:14] <py_can> and sending more dots in a row is impolite too
[18:14] <luftikuss> Signux: What do you mean by "to space up"? Say it in other words, please.
[18:15] <jtreminio> Hi all. I'm looking for the "Adding this PPA to your system" link but can't find it anywhere: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-config-lvm
[18:15] <luftikuss> !ppa
[18:16] <hector__> anyone know if commercial software from software center can be sent as gift? example: a game
[18:17] <Signux> luftikuss: I mean add the space to my Linux partitions
[18:17] <jtreminio> luftikuss, thanks, but I can't find the ppa: link for this particular software
[18:17] <xiambax> hector__: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/27128/
[18:18] <hector__> xiambax: thanks
[18:18] <trism> jtreminio: that is not a ppa, it is a page for the source package of software in the ubuntu repositories
[18:19] <trism> !info system-config-lvm | jtreminio
[18:23] <louiemat__> can anyone tell me the progression in becoming a code writer - what should you be able to picture in your mind to begin?
[18:24] <krababbel> louiemat__: the terminator
[18:25] <Signux> Is there any way to remove windows without affecting on linux  in dual-boot system
[18:25] <Signux> ?
[18:25] <louiemat__> ????
[18:25] <dan> Есть русскоговорящие?
[18:25] <krababbel> Signux: of course there is
[18:26] <amigamia> if you are using filezilla to go in to do a root activity, how can you login with ftp if there is no root account so to speak?
[18:26] <frankbro> Is ubuntu minimal cd comparable to debian's business card cd?
[18:27] <py_can> amigamia, use SCP to connect trough SSH instead of FTP to have FTP like abilities while being more secure
[18:27] <py_can> amigamia, if you're using windows: download winscp
[18:27] <amigamia> no i am using commodore os vision - ubuntu distro so it is linux
[18:28] <amigamia> scp?
[18:28] <amigamia> can i find that in software manager?
[18:28] <krababbel> frankbro: looks like netinst, compare sizes
[18:28] <daninoz> does anyone know an app to convert srt subtitles in idx/sub subtitles ?
[18:28] <K350> /c/c
[18:28] <py_can> amigamia: you'd have to ask someone here for an ubuntu equivalent
[18:28] <ThuGie> hi
[18:28] <amigamia> no it is ubuntu i just need to know if it is in the softwaremamager?
[18:28] <K350> can't connect to security.ubuntu.com for updating the source.list
[18:29] <ThuGie> so getting right to the problem :p
[18:29] <ThuGie> i got ubuntu 11.10 on a vps
[18:29] <py_can> amigamia: the program is called winscp under windows. I dont know what it is called on Ubuntu.
[18:29] <ThuGie> a app i use called zpanel needs crond but i cant find any info on installing it
[18:29] <ThuGie> i was told vixie-cron but the package is not found
[18:29] <amigamia> augh
[18:30] <amigamia> thanks
[18:30] <ThuGie> could you guys help me getting crond installed crontab seems to be ok though
[18:30] <py_can> amigamia: you can use "scp" from the commandline but i suggest getting a GUI
[18:30] <py_can> to which i dont know the name of
[18:30] <amigamia> so ftp is worthless under ubuntu then
[18:30] <amigamia> augh
[18:31] <py_can> amigamia: in many cases scp/sftp/lftp is better than ftp
[18:31] <amigamia> not if i am at home on a local server it isnt :)
[18:31] <Signux> krababbel: If i remove Windows Partition doesn't any damage to grub?
[18:31] <tieinv> scp  secure copy
[18:32] <py_can> amigamia: using FTP to do root activity is not recommended
[18:32] <py_can> =]
[18:32] <krababbel> Signux: you might need to do an update-grub after deleting the partition
[18:32] <ThuGie> anybody here able to help me ? :)
[18:33] <amigamia> i am at home and the server is directly across from me....py_can
[18:33] <luftikuss> Signux: As far as I know you can simply deinstall Windows using Winddows tools. Sometimes you'll need to deinstall Windows defender first. After having deinstalled Windows you should use any Ubuntu Live CD and invoke the GParted program to add the disk space to your existing Ubuntu partitions.
[18:33] <py_can> amigamia: Get a scp GUI and do your file maintanence trough SSH
[18:33] <luftikuss> -d
[18:33] <amigamia> lol py_can
[18:34] <aaron__> channel
[18:34] <Signux> krababbel: after update grub, my system booted without any bootloader?
[18:34] <aaron__> what is the help channel?
[18:35] <krababbel> Signux: I don't know
[18:35] <py_can> aaron__: you're in it
[18:35] <fidel> aaron__: this is an ubuntu help/suppoort channel? looking for other topics?
[18:35] <aaron__> thx py_can
[18:35] <krababbel> Signux: update-grub should remove windows from grub menu, that's all
[18:36] <amigamia> so how can i do root functions if i cant login as root via ftp?
[18:37] <fidel> amigamia: are you used to ssh & sudo?
[18:37] <aaron__> I'm trying to use my Netgear wireless adapter and can't get it to work.  I tried using ndisgtk but it is very complicated for a lameman like myself.  Could someone give me a shove in the right direction or a link to a good how to page?
[18:37] <fidel> amigamia: ssh from client to other client as normal user & then use sudo on the target pc to do jobs which might need administrative permissions
[18:37] <fidel> thats 1 usual way
[18:37] <Signux> krababbel:  ok, but it doesn't have any harm to load my ubuntu?
[18:37] <amigamia> i have a ssh session but i want to do a ftp session too
[18:38] <krababbel> Signux: no, that's what update-grub is good for, but I am no expert to tell you 100% what will happen. You won't delete ubuntu surely'
[18:39] <amigamia> i have a ssh session going but i need to ftp cause wget isnt going right so i wanted to ftp up the file but i now have to do a bunch of mv to get move it around when i should be able to jsut ftp it up as root
[18:39] <amigamia> is correct?
[18:39] <Signux> krababbel:  thank you  for your help ;-)
[18:39] <ThuGie> uhmz :)
[18:40] <ThuGie> so can any one of you help me installing crond on ubuntu 11.10 ? :)
[18:40] <ThuGie> i tried apt-get install vixie-cron but package not found.
[18:40] <SnapSnap> Does 12.04 support screen savers?
[18:40] <ThuGie> no clue what package i should use
[18:40] <ThuGie> used google but no real answer.
[18:42] <daninoz> does anyone know an app to convert srt subtitles in idx/sub subtitles ?
[18:42] <ZipZap> hi
[18:42] <llutz> ThuGie: have you tried to get zpanel working with default cron? what errors?
[18:42] <ZipZap> cannot mount my cdrom any more since /dev/scd0 seems gone. what can i do?
[18:42] <ThuGie> well when i first installed zpanel everything worked until i needed a module that needed cron
[18:42] <ThuGie> but it didnt work.
[18:42] <Signux> krababbel:  one more question,after i remove Win,  is there any way to add space to my current file system ( my home ) ?
[18:42] <ThuGie> i followed tutorial to fix it.
[18:42] <ThuGie> but it used crond
[18:42] <FloodBot1> ThuGie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:42] <ThuGie> yet crond isntalled installed
[18:43] <ThuGie> sorry didnt notice i was talking to fast.
[18:43] <ThuGie> isnt installed*
[18:43] <DJones> ThuGie: I just had a quick look and it suggested that ubuntu doesn't use crond, it uses cron instead
[18:43] <ThuGie> i see i did try to replace the crond command with cron.
[18:43] <Slart> SnapSnap: there are several screen savers for the desktop versions of ubuntu
[18:43] <llutz> ThuGie: *buntu comes with cron, so what errors do you get?
[18:43] <fidel> amigamia: get used to the secure solutions you have - using the insecure methods is not a clever way to go
[18:43] <ThuGie> but when i execute it, i get a white page with a php error
[18:43] <amigamia> sftp has been around forever and now it's not even useful anymore...
[18:43] <krababbel> Signux: yes, but it depends on the partition table. use gparted for that.
[18:43] <amigamia> for ubuntu anyway...
[18:43] <ThuGie> wasnt sure if it was because im using cron
[18:43] <amigamia> this sucks
[18:44] <fidel> and moving a file isnt that difficult either on cli - if it is for you - consider using an scp client as someone else suggest already
[18:44] <ThuGie> the error though doesnt point to anything cron related. so thought perhaps i should just install crond
[18:44] <ThuGie> but if i'm right it doesnt have anything to do with it ?
[18:44] <Balthazar> SnapSnap: Yes - try xscreensavers
[18:44] <amigamia> give me a suggestion fidel for scp client
[18:44] <amigamia> i shouldnt even have to go through all those steps should i?
[18:45] <ThuGie> well i guess i should just wait on the forum for a reply to the php error :)
[18:45] <fidel> amigamia: winscp for windows
[18:45] <ThuGie> i ofcourse made a full post with the errors and with what i tried.
[18:45] <llutz> ThuGie: how would we know if you don't give us any usefull details
[18:45] <amigamia> what if i dont use wine?
[18:45] <amigamia> so i have to now install wine?
[18:45] <fidel> nautilus or similar should come with support out of the box if you are on linux
[18:45] <ThuGie> llutz i could give you the tut i followed + the php error + the line
[18:45] <Boreeas> Is there a way to permanently disable a synaptics touchpad?
[18:45] <fidel> amigamia: no but fully mention what you are asking for ;)
[18:45] <aaron__> Will someone help me get my Netgear USB wireless adapter working?
[18:45] <amigamia> fidel haha
[18:45] <Signux> krababbel:  you mean, i can add 120GB(from my Windows) free space to my file system partition ( that have ubuntu )?
[18:45] <ThuGie> http://forums.zpanelcp.com/showthread.php?8398-Cron-not-working-guide-to-fix-didnt-help
[18:46] <subz3r0> !wifi > aaron__
[18:46] <ThuGie> hope this gives enough informastion llutz
[18:46] <krababbel> Signux: yes
[18:46] <llutz> ThuGie: 1. apache runs as userr/group "www-data" (*buntu, debian)
[18:46] <ZipZap> /dev/scd0 is missing, and i dont have any other scd*
[18:46] <ZipZap> how to make one?
[18:46] <Signux> krababbel:  merC, thank you ;-)
[18:46] <krababbel> Signux: you could pastebin 'sudo fdisk -l', so we can see what you need
[18:46] <amigamia> fidel if this requires net i am screwed....
[18:46] <krababbel> Signux: NP :)
[18:46] <aaron__> thx ubotty
[18:46] <fidel> amigamia: my personal tip is: get used to cli - it might look uncomfortable at beginning - but makes you pretty independable later on
[18:46] <ThuGie> llutz i did change that :)
[18:47] <aaron__> thx ubottu
[18:47] <ThuGie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1168551/ < if you dont want to visit the forums
[18:47] <fidel> amigamia: requires net?
[18:47] <ThuGie> llutz the pastie should tell you what i tried to get it to work.
[18:47] <llutz> ThuGie: have you seen thishttp://planet.zpanelcp.com/doku.php?id=zpanel_6:articles:installation:debian_installation_script
[18:47] <ThuGie> all command in the end worked but it ends up in a php error also included
[18:47] <llutz> ThuGie: have you seen this http://planet.zpanelcp.com/doku.php?id=zpanel_6:articles:installation:debian_installation_script
[18:47] <amigamia> i dont knwo i will find out Fidel
[18:48] <ThuGie> llutz give me a second.
[18:48] <ThuGie> ah i used a script specialy modded for ubuntu
[18:48] <ThuGie> its about the same script but small changes to make it work fully on unbuntu
[18:48] <ThuGie> except it seems cron wasnt fully fixed :p
[18:49] <ThuGie> forum itself doesnt help me with that except 1 post followed that ended up with a php error.
[18:49] <amigamia> this is amazing. i am right across from the server and i have to go thru all this to do what i could have done with sftp if ubuntu didnt restrict root ftp. augh.
[18:49] <ThuGie> so it might just be the script and cron itself working correctly.
[18:49] <beboj> Hi i have built-in modem 3g Wireless 5620 EVDO-HSPA Mobile Broadband Mini-Card  and it dosent work , any suggestion how to fix it ?
[18:50] <ThuGie> but k the cron i will wait for forum.
[18:50] <ThuGie> so for another module i need it seems atd
[18:51] <ThuGie> command i should execute is /etc/init.d/atd restart
[18:51] <jimi_> What files are used for auth? I setup ldap a while back .... and i no longer want to auth against it locally...
[18:51] <ThuGie> no atd found though
[18:51] <llutz> !info at | ThuGie
[18:51] <ThuGie> so instead atd just use at ?
[18:52] <llutz> ThuGie: /usr/sbin/atd comes with package "at"
[18:52] <ThuGie> at also doesnt exist as service.
[18:52] <llutz> ThuGie: do you even read what i wrote?
[18:53] <ThuGie> so i asume the package 11.10 that the vps hosting provides doesnt include it.
[18:53] <ThuGie> let me reread.
[18:53] <ThuGie> installing package at :p
[18:53] <ThuGie> sorry :D
[18:53] <jimi_> ah, its /etc/nsswitch.conf
[18:53] <ThuGie> working fine now thanks
[18:54] <amigamia> ok i have winscp loaded and i am connected to the server however how do i identify myself as root? cause it's just the same ole thing...
[18:54] <ThuGie> llutz really thanks a lot, for the time you spend to explain basic stuff to me :(
[18:55] <ThuGie> and point me out that i should reread stuff you wrote :p
[18:55] <llutz> amigamia: you don't since the root-account is disabled by default
[18:55] <ZipZap> the answer to my question was, that the device is now sr0, you suckers
[18:55] <amigamia> well how can i transfer to the var/www/xxx/ folder without the permissions?
[18:55] <huslat> i'm kinda new to ubuntu and i'd like to know more about it; i'm looking for a way to download the .iso file and install it alongside windows without the need to re-partition or format any drives; Help!
[18:55] <aaron__> I was reading a manual that said I have to black list "echo -e "blacklist bcm43xx\nblacklist b43\nblacklist b43legacy\nblacklist ssb" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist".  How do I undo this?
[18:56] <unless> How do I install portMaps at Ubuntu 12.04?
[18:56] <amigamia> so why did i bother installing winscp?
[18:57] <fidel> !info portmaps
[18:57] <zenos_> PPPOOONNNIIIEEEZZZ... sorry bout that
[18:57] <huslat> hello!?!
[18:57] <amigamia> i see i can enter commands but i can't su or anything to elevate my status
[18:57] <aaron__> Thanks for the help everyone, I'm out of time and will be back later to continue trouble shooting
[18:57] <fidel> amigamia: as mentioned above - get used to ssh and using sudo
[18:57] <fidel> thats the real deal/way to go
[18:58] <paperino> irc://irc.darksin.it/freespirits
[18:58] <krababbel> huslat: install virtualbox in windows and install a vm
[18:58] <amigamia> i know how to use it fidel but this isnt right and you know deep in your heart this isnt right.
[18:58] <huslat> how do i do that krababbel ?
[18:58] <luftikuss> I wonder why Ubuntu 12.04.1 installs the package gnupg by default and not gnupg2.
[18:58] <fidel> amigamia: then ssh in and use something like mc at the target if you think only guis rock. is that an option?
[18:58] <amigamia> so sftp is hsitory so i will inform filezilla that is the case
[18:58] <huslat> i'm a total beginner
[18:59] <brontosaurusrex> what would i use to forward my server sendmail to gmail sender?
[18:59] <beboj> Hi i have built-in modem 3g Wireless 5620 EVDO-HSPA Mobile Broadband Mini-Card  and it dosent work, not visible in lsusb or lspci
[18:59] <amigamia> fidel i just wanted to have the ease of use is all.
[18:59] <amigamia> my stars
[18:59] <fidel> amigamia: well i am out then ;) good luck
[18:59] <amigamia>  yeah ok senor castro :D
[19:00] <huslat> gtg; tnx;
[19:00] <amigamia> if i recall you can use root but it's not recommended.
[19:00] <wjtaylor> lsmod shows a module in use with 1. How do I find out what is using it?
[19:03] <unless> ubottu, ok, then?
[19:03] <SwashBuckla> a/wc
[19:04] <unless> ups, sorry :P
[19:04] <unless> fidel, I've hear about nfs-common, no?
[19:07] <troy_> bnghhggghnghnghng
[19:08] <W4sp> brontosaurusrex: You can use sendmail for it.
[19:09] <brontosaurusrex> W4sp, somebody told me there is something uber simple out there, but i forget what it was
[19:09] <llutz> brontosaurusrex: msmtp, ssmtp, nullmailer
[19:09] <brontosaurusrex> configuring sendmail will kill me
[19:09] <W4sp> brontosaurusrex: As you decided to use sendmail - you can use sendmail to do it.
[19:10] <W4sp> brontosaurusrex: Well, why did you decide to use sendmail makes me wonder.
[19:10] <brontosaurusrex> W4sp, sendmail will be uninstalled right now ...
[19:11] <W4sp> brontosaurusrex: Why do you ask for a solution with sendmail when you decided to uninstall it? Do you have a support question?
[19:11] <runtt21> test
[19:11] <SnapSnap> when I do "srm -r -v -z <directory name>" on a directory, sometimes the terminal will say "<file name> is not a regular file, rename/unlink only! Removed file <file name>." What would cause this?
[19:11] <brontosaurusrex> W4sp, i used wrong wording actually
[19:11] <W4sp> !test | runtt21
[19:12] <amigamia> can you add root to a user account? seems i have done that before?
[19:12] <runtt21> true and know i kno wyou can too
[19:12] <runtt21> thx
[19:13] <tank__> Hey, guys. I'm writing a quick shell script and I need some spaces in paths I'm using in a variable. How do I do that?
[19:13] <viewer> i screwed up my grub, and tried booting to a live thumdrive and chrooting and using update-grub, but it say "cannot run binary file"??  so I want to try boot-repair, but for some reason the live cd isn't loading the window manager, all i have is the background and the "install icon" so I dont know how to run it.  I had to install it with ctrl+alt+f1 terminal.  any thoughts on how to run boot-repair without a window manager?
[19:13] <W4sp> brontosaurusrex: You can install other MTAs such as postfix, which is very easy to setup. Also, see fetchmail to actually get the email to your box. I assume you do this for a road warrior?
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> tank__  better ask in #bash
[19:14] <amigamia> ahh sudo passwd root
[19:14] <tank__> MonkeyDust, thanks!
[19:14] <brontosaurusrex> W4sp, test lamp enviroment
[19:17] <vaio> hi everybody
[19:19] <vaio> need some help with lid actions on ubuntu 10.04... laptop lid-close/open: suspend/hibernate doesn't work. can anyone help? thanks
[19:24] <savio> vaio, did you install acpi
[19:25] <vaio> installed ubuntu yesterday. fresh install
[19:25] <vaio> i suppose it should come with that... shouldn't it?
[19:26] <urbann> hi all
[19:26] <urbann> I don't know where to ask this question so I try here!
[19:26] <urbann> I am looking for some implementation of a text based desktop solution
[19:26] <HAMKoot> i assume you talk about a vaio, maybe you need vaio-power > https://launchpad.net/~vaiopower/+archive/ppa
[19:26] <savio> vaio, what is actully your problem
[19:26] <urbann> do you know if any exist?
[19:27] <vaio> hamkoot... i did install that. it's only used to enable/disable certain hardware... like wwan, lan, cd etc
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> urbann  a text based solution for what?
[19:28] <vaio> savio, i want my laptop to suspend when i close the lid. it's not happening
[19:28] <joubin> Is anyone else having issue installing ubuntu from their 12.04.1 that they provide on their site
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> !ask| joubin
[19:28] <vaio> sorry for being so crude...
[19:28] <luftikuss> I wonder why Ubuntu 12.04.1 installs the package gnupg by default and not gnupg2.
[19:29] <savio> vaio, can you check if you hace acpi installed?
[19:29] <urbann> MonkeyDust: I understand your confusion,   I don't know how to explain but will try
[19:29] <vaio> how do i do that savio?
[19:29] <savio> dpkg -l |grep acpi
[19:29] <kukulambar> hi i am using 12.04 can i upgrade to 12.10
[19:30] <nathan_> I installed 12.04 and removed Unity and installed Gnome3 now parts of Gnome are in an asian characterset that I can't read. Can someone help me get english back. Here's a screenshot http://i46.tinypic.com/15qu809.png
[19:30] <troy_> kukulambar: yes you could, but i would suggest you don't it is in alpha stage unless that is what you want to do is run into alot of bugs
[19:30] <ThinkT510> kukulambar: yes but it isnt released yet (not stable)
[19:30] <unless> what?
[19:30] <urbann> like in a normal OS you open one window to select a file and then open another window to past the file..
[19:30] <vaio> ii  acpi-support                          0.136.1                                           scripts for handling many ACPI events
[19:30] <vaio> ii  acpid                                 1.0.10-5ubuntu2.5                                 Advanced Configuration and Power Interface e
[19:31] <trijntje> nathan_: did you install any packages not in the default repositories or any PPA's?
[19:31] <nathan_> yeas gnome's PPA
[19:31] <urbann> I don¨t understand why we work like this, I looking for an implementation where you can just write move file x to destination y
[19:31] <dominic_> hi
[19:31] <kukulambar> ok, in that case i better wait until 12.10 is released
[19:31] <savio> which system do you using? vaio
[19:31] <trijntje> nathan_: that's not needed, gnome3 is in  the repository
[19:32] <ThinkT510> urbann: can't you just open a terminal?
[19:32] <vaio> savio, i should probably tell you now that if i press the "suspend" button at user menu, it works. so does hibernation
[19:32] <dominic_> does anybody know of a grooveshark client that supports offlining tracks witha subscription?
[19:32] <vaio> using ubuntu 10.04. vaio sz61vn
[19:32] <Daghdha> Hi. Is there a snmp logger built into ubuntu?
[19:32] <urbann> like in terminal but with help ! and a graphical interface you can see the files you work with...
[19:33] <savio> vaio, just for confirmation did you changed power option
[19:33] <trijntje> nathan_: I would try opening a terminal (ctrl + alt +  t), and then running gnome-language-selector  and set it to english
[19:33] <ThinkT510> !fish | urbann
[19:33] <ThinkT510> !info fish | urbann
[19:33] <savio> vaio, power preference
[19:34] <llutz> urbann: i don't really get what you want, but have you looked at "mc" (midnight-commander)? is this like what you're looking for?
[19:34] <Daghdha> Coz i don't see an app for it
[19:34] <urbann> ThinkT510: yes but then you lose all the benefits of a graphical interface
[19:34] <vaio> nope, not really savio. the first thing i tried when i installed ubuntu10.04, is close the lid and see if it worked... it didn't. all the options at the power pref. are/were as they should be.
[19:35] <savio> vaio, i think you should check that option
[19:35] <vaio> savio, i did check that option
[19:35] <ThinkT510> urbann: i don't fully understand what you want
[19:35] <vaio> it says: when i close laptop lid, option= suspend.
[19:35] <ThinkT510> urbann: is there a certain gui that is confusing you?
[19:36] <Daghdha> hew wants total commander. in linux
[19:36] <vaio> i tried to change and revert them back as they were, thinking it might be a glitch... but they do not work
[19:36] <urbann> I will check out the suggestions I got. wait..
[19:37] <vaio> the options are there, selected, everything looks absolutely fine; i close the laptop lid, and nothing happens.
[19:37] <nathan_> trijntje: I've done that but I can't seem to select english. Screenshot: http://i50.tinypic.com/s2gvbl.png
[19:37] <urbann> ThinkT510: No I just think the way we communicate with computers are strange and I'm looking for alternatives
[19:37] <vaio> i installed this version of ubuntu just for this. because i thought it would work. it just doesn't
[19:37] <trijntje> nathan_: yeah, you have to drag it up, the interface is not so nice
[19:38] <trijntje> drag the entry for English to the top, or try draging the chinese one down
[19:38] <ThinkT510> urbann: text input and mouse movement has been around for years, menus even longer, what are you looking for? touchscreen?
[19:39] <nathan_> trijntje: ah ok, i'm going to log out and back in. Thanks! Let's see how this does
[19:39] <dominic_> anyone know of a grooveshark client with offline support and linking to accounts?
[19:39] <dominic_> clementine is great, but no offline support
[19:41] <thor__> hi
[19:41] <thor__> guys I need some help
[19:42] <thor__> someone could help me?
[19:42] <nathan_> trijntje: that worked thanks so much
[19:42] <troy_> thor__: just ask
[19:42] <trijntje> nathan_: you're welcome, glad you got it sorted
[19:42] <pale3> madcows
[19:43] <thor__> thank you troy, i need to install psx emulator on ubuntu 12.04, but i can't
[19:43] <vaio> any ideas savio?
[19:43] <Troy^> thor__: never ask to ask. well that isn't really a question thor__ you have to be more specific lol
[19:45] <thor__> Troy ok, I tryed to install spx emulator whit a deb package, but it dos not runs
[19:45] <thor__> i need to know if is possible install psx on ubuntu 12.04
[19:45] <urbann> ThinkT510: I will not be able to describe what I been thinking about here,,, I will try to set up an demo in javascript
[19:45] <WeThePeople> thor__, is this it.. http://www.zophar.net/linux/psx/pcsx.html
[19:45] <N0is3> hello
[19:45] <ThinkT510> urbann: cool
[19:46] <urbann> Midnight Commander is something in the direction I am thinking, thanks
[19:46] <N0is3> i have a question
[19:46] <thor__> WeThePeople, thanks
[19:46] <WeThePeople> nois3, wazup
[19:46] <ThinkT510> urbann: a double-paned file manager?
[19:47] <N0is3> how to add program to autostart script?
[19:47] <N0is3> i mean where this script is
[19:47] <Troy^> ok thor__ did you download the Debian .rpm of the psx emulator
[19:47] <phax> Hi I am on Ubunto 10.0.4, default run level 2, but the gdm service does not start up, each time I login to the console session and use "service gdm start". How do I go about troubleshooting this ? I have an error in the boot.log: "start: Unknown job: S20gdm"
[19:48] <thor__> yes troy
[19:48] <phax> But there is a softlink under /etc/rc2.d/ for that
[19:48] <ThinkT510> !rpm | Troy^
[19:48] <WeThePeople> nois3, like a startup program?
[19:48] <N0is3> yes
[19:48] <urbann> ThinkT510: I want a command line tool with some intelligent autocomplete a graphical interface that show what you are doing and giving tips : )
[19:48] <WeThePeople> nois3, what distro you on
[19:48] <N0is3> 10.0.3
[19:48] <Troy^> ThinkT510: why did you send that to me lol
[19:48] <urbann> ThinkT510:  I will try to set up basic demo the coming days
[19:49] <urbann> Just looking for similar existing projects
[19:49] <ThinkT510> Troy^: you said a debian .rpm, rpms are not for debian
[19:50] <Jef91> So I am compiling some extra python 2.7 modules on Ubuntu 12.04 - by default they are installing themselves to /usr/share/pyshared - but they are not being found there. They are only working from /usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages any ideas why that might be?
[19:50] <Troy^> ThinkT510: right but they are built towards a certain distro at times.
[19:50] <WeThePeople> nois3, i dont know where the script is but you can goto "system, preferences, startup applications"
[19:50] <N0is3> well, i didn't mean that
[19:50] <N0is3> something like daemons
[19:51] <WeThePeople> nois3, what program>?
[19:51] <WeThePeople> you could right click and select "create launcher"
[19:52] <N0is3> my own program for connecting to the http server letting know system is on
[19:52] <N0is3> i heard something like /etc/init.d
[19:52] <N0is3> but this doesn't appear to work
[19:52] <WeThePeople> nois3, idl about that stuff
[19:52] <WeThePeople> idk
[19:52] <bttf> when i have just installed a package with aptitude, how can i find out where it has installed to?
[19:53] <N0is3> well, so thanks for trying to help anyway
[19:53] <bttf> i just dl'ed a documentation package and i have no idea where it is
[19:53] <gordonjcp> bttf: dpkg -L <name of package>
[19:53] <el_seano> bttf: dpkg -L $PACKAGE
[19:53] <gordonjcp> bttf: most likely /usr/share/doc/<whatever>
[19:53] <bttf> cool thanks
[19:53] <N0is3> ubuntu community is much more friendly than other distros communities :)
[19:53] <el_seano> heh, gordonjcp beating me to the punch.
[19:53] <WeThePeople> yes we are
[19:53] <gordonjcp> el_seano: that's because I'd just done it ten seconds before ;-)
[19:53] <gordonjcp> el_seano: it's awfy handy
[19:53] <el_seano> indeed
[19:54] <gordonjcp> dpkg -L <thing> is great for those "What the...?" moments when you can't quite work out why something doesn't appear to be showing up
[19:54] <SuperMiguel> any of you guys using the Sony media dock with linux??? (http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&partNumber=VGPPRZ20A/B)
[19:55] <thor__> guys exist an irc channel for ubuntu in spanish?
[19:55] <ThinkT510> !es | thor__
[19:57] <vaio> need some help with lid actions on ubuntu 10.04... laptop lid-close/open: suspend/hibernate doesn't work. can anyone help? thanks
[19:57] <ThinkT510> vaio: how much ram do you have?
[19:57] <thor__> ubottu en donde lo debo escribir?
[19:57] <vaio> 2gb
[19:57] <ThinkT510> vaio: and how much swap do you have?
[19:58] <vaio> 3GB
[19:58] <ThinkT510> vaio: ok, thought i'd try the simplest problem
[19:58] <vaio> savio, i should probably tell you now that if i press the "suspend" button at user menu, it works. so does hibernation
[19:59] <vaio> thinkt510... suspend and hibernate work when i press the button at user menu
[19:59] <vaio> lid actions are not recognized though
[20:00] <vaio> nothing happens when i close the lid... the screen remains on, indicator lights - all on... same as if lid were open
[20:00] <ThinkT510> vaio: and you have it set to suspend/hibernate in the power settings when you close the lid?
[20:00] <vaio> i have done that thinkt510
[20:00] <vaio> it's not happening though... :(
[20:00] <ThinkT510> vaio: well then i can't help you
[20:01] <vaio> thanks anyway...
[20:01] <vaio> by the way, i do not think that swap or ram size have anything to do with suspension
[20:01] <vaio> especially swap
[20:02] <xman> hola
[20:03] <ThinkT510> vaio: i think swap is for hibernation, suspension is to ram
[20:03] <vaio> yes thinkt510
[20:05] <vaio> it's giving me such a headache... it's now more than a week i'm trying to find a fix or workaround to this problem... growing desperate
[20:06] <ThinkT510> vaio: you're not using any special boot parameters are you?
[20:07] <`DjM4X> bleh, i'm pissed.. i did a scan for additional drivers with jockey and it didn't detect any proprietary driver to install with my gtx 670m and there's one in nvidia's site (304.37). ok, tried to install with with x-swat ppa and guess what, now i'm stuck with 640x480. anyone here sucessfully installed this fkn driver?
[20:07] <vaio> nope. all normal. i don't see how boot parameters could affect recognition of a lit button
[20:07] <vaio> lid*
[20:08] <ThinkT510> vaio: acpi
[20:08] <vaio> installed thinkt510
[20:08] <vaio> it's already there
[20:09] <ThinkT510> vaio: sorry, i meant acpi options can be set at boot, hence my question about boot parameters
[20:09] <BluesKaj> 'DjM4X , that's an experimental driver afaik , and not stable , you're probly better off just using the nouveau driver , or the 302 series
[20:10] <ThinkT510> vaio: if acpi was off then the lid action wouldn't be regestered/recognised
[20:10] <vaio> i see... but i haven't done anything fancy. just a fresh install.
[20:11] <`DjM4X> BluesKaj i had to go back to my desktop which runs windows just to try to find a solution for this, i'm going to be running trine 2 on the ubuntu laptop and as far as i know nouveau won't be good for that
[20:11] <ThinkT510> vaio: whats the output of: lsmod
[20:12] <`DjM4X> is there any other nvidia driver compatible with the gtx 670m that won't get me stuck like the 304.37?
[20:12] <BluesKaj> 'DjM4x , I think the 302.17 driver should work if you're on 12.04 ubuntu
[20:13] <`DjM4X> yes i am
[20:13] <gordonjcp> I like my nvidia card
[20:13] <psilo23> i like spotify
[20:13] <gordonjcp> annoying that flash gives crazy colours in amd64
[20:13] <psilo23> i dislike despotify for not working properly on 64bit ubuntu though
[20:13] <gordonjcp> one day, youtube will be *all* html5 and flash will go away
[20:14] <`DjM4X> i'm still using the 304.37 and stuck at 640x480, should i run sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-current nvidia-settings and then try the 302.17 from the nvidia's site or is it somewhere else BluesKaj ?
[20:14] <ThinkT510> gordonjcp: that couldn't happen fast enough
[20:14] <gordonjcp> ThinkT510: when it works it works well
[20:14] <`DjM4X> by the way, i'm on a 64bit system BluesKaj
[20:14] <vaio> pastebinit doesn't work on my laptop
[20:15] <`DjM4X> and 302.17 is for 32bit systems
[20:15] <doop> are there of users who have any interest in  wii and mame?
[20:15] <psilo23> any of you guys got despotify to work on 64bit ubuntu 12.04 ?
[20:15] <ThinkT510> vaio: copy and paste it to a paste site
[20:15] <BluesKaj> 'DjM4X. it should be default in additional/restricted drivers in jockey
[20:15] <vaio> where, though?
[20:15] <vaio> :lol:
[20:15] <ThinkT510> vaio: pastebin.com
[20:15] <`DjM4X> BluesKaj unfortunatelly when i scanned with jockey it found nothing
[20:16] <`DjM4X> weirdest thing ever
[20:16] <vaio> (and don't tell me to go back to school... please_ :lol:)
[20:16] <`DjM4X> that's why i had to try it myself, manually..
[20:16] <WeThePeople> vaio, or paste.ubuntu.com is way eaiser
[20:16] <BluesKaj> 'DjM4X , odd :p
[20:16] <`DjM4X> saddest part is that i got this laptop planning to run ubuntu from the beggin to play trine 2, now i can't get the graphics to work
[20:17] <`DjM4X> g8
[20:17] <BluesKaj> and it works on 64 bit systems , I used it on 12,10 for a while
[20:17] <WeThePeople> does purge override remove
[20:17] <vaio> thanks wethepeople
[20:17] <`DjM4X> BluesKaj you used it from the official site?
[20:17] <vaio> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1168703/
[20:18] <BluesKaj> 'DjM4X , or even the 295 driver should work on 12.04
[20:18] <BluesKaj> 'DjM4X , nope in jockey
[20:19] <`DjM4X> BluesKaj i'm wondering why jockey isnt detecting anything
[20:19] <`DjM4X> it's a gtx 670m ..
[20:19] <`DjM4X> it should detect something, this is weird
[20:20] <BluesKaj> 'DjM4X , have you updated and upgraded lately ?
[20:20] <carnau> I just installed ubuntu and grub can't load my os, it says "error: no such partition". If I do a "ls" on the grub-console, it returns the same. What can I do? I have 2 hdd with a simple LVM for the home directory.
[20:20] <wN> carnau: you probably have incorrect information ni the grub configuration.
[20:21] <ThinkT510> vaio: hmm, i can't see any reference to acpi in there
[20:21] <`DjM4X> BluesKaj i've installed the system today, at the time of setup i had no internet so i unchecked the 'install updates' but now i am home and i ran the update software
[20:21] <`DjM4X> it says there's nothing to update
[20:21] <`DjM4X> nothing to update, nothing in jockey
[20:21] <`DjM4X> lol..
[20:22] <BluesKaj> carnau , do you know which drive grub is installed on , go to that install and sudo update-grub
[20:22] <vaio> is it supposed to show there thinkt510?
[20:23] <ThinkT510> vaio: i guess it depends on your model, i use thinkpads so i have thinkpad_acpi listed in lsmod
[20:23] <BluesKaj> 'DjM4X , make sure you have the canonical partners and 3rd party repos enabled in your package manager
[20:23] <giustes> !list
[20:23] <vaio> vaio@vaio-laptop:~$ sudo apt-get install acpi-support
[20:23] <vaio> [sudo] password for vaio:
[20:23] <vaio> Reading package lists... Done
[20:23] <vaio> Building dependency tree
[20:23] <vaio> Reading state information... Done
[20:23] <FloodBot1> vaio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:23] <vaio> acpi-support is already the newest version.
[20:23] <carnau> wN, I started it with the CD, using the option "boot the first hard drive". I've re-installed grub in /dev/sda with no luc.
[20:23] <vaio> sorry floodbot1
[20:23] <Signux> Hi! I had Windows and Ubuntu on dual-boot, now i remove Win, but the Grub is still loading, how to boot ubuntu without loading grub?
[20:23] <vaio> i didn't realize... not intentional
[20:23] <carnau> update-grub says that it finds the os, but does it wrong
[20:24] <`DjM4X> BluesKaj i'm going to give it a fresh install
[20:24] <`DjM4X> might work
[20:24] <iceroot> Signux: you always boot ubuntu with grub
[20:24] <mohammad> hi
[20:24] <ThinkT510> vaio: maybe your equivilant is sony_laptop
[20:24] <mohammad> I need help a bit please.
[20:24] <iceroot> Signux: grub is the bootloader for ubuntu
[20:24] <gordonjcp> !ask | mohammad
[20:24] <shah`> Signux: do clean install
[20:25] <ThinkT510> vaio: i don't know enough to be of help sorry
[20:25] <vaio> equivalent to what? thinkt510
[20:25] <BluesKaj> 'DjM4X , try the enable repos approach first run sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:25] <Guest69887> I am using xchat, but it seems that there is no protection on it nor I can kickban someone for a certain reason or set whois on active.
[20:25] <Guest69887> Any irc client on ubuntu that has protection?
[20:25] <carnau> shah`, maybe he can set timeout to 0 instead of make a new install.
[20:25] <subz3r0> Guest69887, #xchat
[20:25] <gordonjcp> carnau: yeah
[20:25] <gordonjcp> Signux: you *always* have GRUB
[20:25] <drag0nius2> what is some nice tool to update DDNS?
[20:25] <vaio> well, thank you anyway bro... i appreciate it thinkt510
[20:25] <ThinkT510> vaio: maybe sony_laptop is your acpi module, like thinkpad_acpi is mine
[20:25] <shah`> carnau: thanks
[20:25] <gordonjcp> drag0nius2: hold that thought
[20:25] <gordonjcp> drag0nius2: I need to set that up myself
[20:26] <vaio> i do not know thinkt510
[20:26] <ThinkT510> vaio: yeah, neither do i
[20:26] <vaio> i do not think ubuntu ever includes modules for vaio laptops
[20:26] <Signux> iceroot: I mean load ubuntu directly, without show selection page ( grub ) because i have one OS, not more
[20:26] <drag0nius2> seems like my modem doesnt work with freedns.afraid.org
[20:26] <gordonjcp> Signux: you *always* have that
[20:26] <ThinkT510> vaio: that would be the kernel's job
[20:26] <gordonjcp> Signux: you can set the timeout to 0 but that's not always a good idea
[20:26] <vaio> i've seen assus, lenovo, ibm, hp, toshiba.. things like that, but never a vaio
[20:27] <luftikuss> Signux: You cannot have Ubuntu without Grub (in almost all circumstances you are anvisaging).
[20:27] <luftikuss> s/anvisaging/envisaging/
[20:28] <Signux> I mean load ubuntu directly, without show selection page ( grub ) because i have one OS, not more
[20:28] <thunkee> Signux: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Boot_Display_Behavior
[20:28] <luftikuss> Signux: You can hide the Grub screen image.
[20:29] <shah`> Signux: maybe this tuts can help u http://superuser.com/questions/148418/remove-windows-7-entry-from-grub
[20:29] <vaio> i;ve read somewhere that a certain kernel was working on this mode... any ideas how to install an older version of kernel? i cannot find it in the repositories
[20:29] <andrewx> Anyone aware of that annoying behavior in Dolphin, like after copying files, message @ bottom reads "successfully copied", is there any way to CLEAR OUT that message, so you can see how many files you have, etc?
[20:29] <babolatpdtp> hi all, im having issues getting the latest ubuntu iso onto my usb thumb drive (on mac os x lion). i followed the instructions here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx but step 8 ends with "The disk you inserted was not readable by this computer" when i restored the disk using this computer to FAT...
[20:30] <`DjM4X> BluesKaj what repos you told me to enable?
[20:30] <Signux> luftikuss: before i install win7, i have just ubuntu on my laptop, and never see grub page
[20:31] <shah`> Signux: maybe this tutorial can help u http://superuser.com/questions/148418/remove-windows-7-entry-from-grub
[20:31] <zykotick9> Signux: the option(s) you see are in /etc/default/grub
[20:31] <gordonjcp> drag0nius2: ddclient seems to work for me
[20:31] <luftikuss> Signux: My statement is true independent of your remark.
[20:32] <gordonjcp> Signux: I don't know how you installed it, then
[20:32] <gordonjcp> Signux: it always comes up with GRUB by default.  You *can* make it not show up, but that's a silly idea
[20:32] <babolatpdtp> sorry I got disconnected and don't know if this sent so sorry for the repeat: im having issues getting the latest ubuntu iso onto my usb thumb drive (on mac os x lion). i followed the instructions here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx but step 8 ends with "The disk you inserted was not readable by this computer" when i restored the disk using this computer to FAT...
[20:33] <drag0nius2> what would be some short update time but not too short?
[20:37] <lidar> hi
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> !mac > babolatpdtp did you read this?
[20:37] <lidar> !mac > lidar
[20:38] <lidar> heheh thts funny!
[20:38] <Jordan_U> gordonjcp: On Ubuntu the grub menu is hidden when Ubuntu is the only OS, you have to hold shift to see it.
[20:38] <gordonjcp> Jordan_U: not here it's not
[20:38] <gordonjcp> it always shows up
[20:38] <zykotick9> lidar: you might have just gotten these instruction in PM, but in case not - you can use "/msg ubottu foo" to search for things privately
[20:39] <babolatpdtp> MonkeyDust: i saw that but that's for running it on my mac. im just burning it to a USB to install on my server
[20:39] <gordonjcp> Jordan_U: stock install of Precise amd64
[20:39] <drag0nius2> what protocol to set for freedns?
[20:39] <lidar> one day ... im going to get around to editing grub so i dont have to arrow up/down so much
[20:39] <drag0nius2> theres no freedns protocol in ddclient
[20:39] <gordonjcp> drag0nius2: edit the config manually, set it to freedns
[20:40] <Jordan_U> gordonjcp: I don't know why it didn't happen for you, but that *is* the default for systems with only one OS (Ubuntu) installed.]
[20:40] <drag0nius2> yeah, but when i start ddclient it says its invalid
[20:40] <gordonjcp> drag0nius2: the dpkg config tool is completely useless
[20:40] <gordonjcp> drag0nius2: hm, don't know then
[20:40] <drag0nius2> WARNING:  file /etc/ddclient.conf, line 7: Invalid Value for keyword 'protocol' = 'freedns'
[20:40] <gordonjcp> is there any info on the freedns site to tell you what protocol it uses?
[20:40] <lidar> what bot powers ubottu ?
[20:40] <gordonjcp> Jordan_U: <shrug>
[20:41] <Signux> Jordan_U: thats right. I agree with you.
[20:41] <gordonjcp> Jordan_U: bigger things to worry about that that, tbh
[20:41] <gordonjcp> once every six months or so, I see a GRUB screen
[20:41] <gordonjcp> big wow
[20:42] <Dr_Willis> exit
[20:42] <viewer> my laptop is amazingly amazingly broken.  i broke grub and trying to fix it in boot-repair on a live disk it tells me to chroot and put some commands in to purge grub-common
[20:42] <viewer> but anything I do with apt-get gives me debconf: Perl may be unconfigured (warnings.pm did not return a true value at /usr/share/perl/5.14/carp.pm line 4
[20:43]  * zykotick9 misses the old grub2 wiki page, with the chroot instructions :(..
[20:43] <gordonjcp> grub2 is pretty horrible
[20:43] <viewer> and some comppilation faileds, all related to perl, reading database unrecoverable fatal error file list for package shotwell is mising final newline
[20:43] <gordonjcp> it's worse in just about every significant way than grub
[20:43] <lidar> oh the days of lilo manually editing it for kernels ect.
[20:44] <gordonjcp> lidar: there's got to be a better way of doing it
[20:45] <gordonjcp> we need to get rid of this legacy BIOS rubbish and move to EFI or UEFI
[20:45] <viewer> should I just give up and format ubuntu?
[20:45] <ThinkT510> !ot | gordonjcp
[20:46] <gordonjcp> viewer: it depends how much time you want to spend unborking it
[20:46] <Topol> Hello, Im having a problem configuring metasploit to my database
[20:46] <Topol> :I
[20:46] <gordonjcp> viewer: nuke and pave is the quick and easy route, but you will need to set up all your local state again
[20:46] <viewer> gordonjcp, ive been spending the time, but if I can't purge grub now because of a perl error (wtf) i dont know where else to go with it
[20:47] <gordonjcp> viewer: with a bit of luck you've formatted your drive with /home on a separate partition - I've no idea why that's not the default - so it won't be too much hassle ;-)
[20:47] <viewer> of course this is the one time that I didnt put /home/ on a seperate partition
[20:47] <viewer> but I really didnt have any files on ubuntu anyway
[20:47] <viewer> just all my packages manually added
[20:48] <viewer> and some prettying
[20:48] <viewer> i guess ill just do it and get it overwith
[20:48] <lidar> viewer, dont give up! its fixable
[20:49] <viewer> lidar, any suggestions?
[20:49] <viewer> so now I'm shaving yaks, trying to fix perl, to be able to use apt-get, to be able to use, boot-repair
[20:50] <viewer> and i cant uninstall perl, because of... a perl error!
[20:50] <lidar> viewer, chroot and just try using grub-install i think it is
[20:50] <PRabyte> viewer: there is a perl script that removes everything perl, dont recall the name, but perlmonks.org is a good place to start, the monestary has monks on stand by for such inquires,,, justa heads up
[20:50] <zykotick9> 4+~
[20:51] <PRabyte> viewer: just click the chat box thingy, read the instructions, and be patient, as they are monks and are very patient, but will respond
[20:52] <lidar> viewer, http://zeldor.biz/2010/12/install-grub-from-chroot/ first hit from google for chroot fix grub
[20:52] <Fuzzy_Wuzzy> hi guys, I'm afraid I'll need lots of help, but for starters, I can't access ubuntu.com, other websites work fine. Any ideas? On the newest ubuntu and using the included firefox.
[20:54] <tech1> i can access ubuntu.com
[20:54] <dragonfly> Can anybody help me ? Everything was fine until I realized that the cooling fan in my laptop was suddenly not working at all
[20:54] <tech1> did you try clearing your cookies/cache?
[20:54] <lidar> dragonfly, what kind of laptop is it ?
[20:55] <lidar> Fuzzy_Wuzzy, the website works fine for me \
[20:55] <dragonfly> It its toshiba satellite
[20:55] <viewer> ive just never seen a computer screwed up so bad in so many seeminly unrelated ways out of nowhere, did I mention I cant seem to execute any binary files? /sbin/reboot: cannot execute binary file
[20:55] <lidar> dragonfly, toss that plus model number plus linux/ubuntu in google
[20:55] <Fuzzy_Wuzzy> lidar: I know, and works fine for my friends too, justnot for me :S
[20:56] <dragonfly> Lidar, I have been googling from a couple of days now. Till now there is no working solution for me
[20:57] <Fuzzy_Wuzzy> filesystem.manifest? what's that?
[20:57] <drag0nius2> anyone know freedns patch for ddclient?
[20:57] <lidar> viewer, are you using a 32bit livecd and the install is 64bit or osemthing like that />
[20:57] <viewer> lidar, no, thats right off the ubuntu partition that was running fine yesterday
[20:58] <viewer> oh wel
[20:58] <viewer> this isn't worth the trouble
[20:58] <viewer> i didnt have any data on it yet
[20:58] <viewer> its just frustrating how IMPOSSIBLY bad its broken lol
[20:59] <lidar> only system i ever broke that bad gentoo .. like every other week lol!
[20:59] <thunkee> Fuzzy_Wuzzy: try a: host www.ubuntu.com in a terminal windows
[20:59] <viewer> heh
[21:00] <Fuzzy_Wuzzy> thunkee: spits back "ubuntu.com has address 91.189.90.41"
[21:00] <dragonfly> lidar, here is what exactly happen. I installed vmware player and on next reboot boot stuck at "starting apparmor profile" then I disabled a couple apparmor modules and it booted perfectly but fab was not running this time
[21:01] <thunkee> Fuzzy_Wuzzy: looks ok :)
[21:01] <Fuzzy_Wuzzy> thunkee: still can't access it via firefox though :S
[21:02] <lidar> Fuzzy_Wuzzy, try a diffrent browser ?
[21:03] <Fuzzy_Wuzzy> lidar: hmph, why didn't I think of that >.<
[21:03] <lidar> dragonfly, renable those profiles ?
[21:03] <ejv_> im downloading the new LTS imags, and on several computers I keep getting different md5sums, what's going on? :\
[21:03] <lidar> Fuzzy_Wuzzy, im hooked on opera right the minute
[21:04] <lidar> ejv_, download corrupted ?
[21:04] <ejv_> lidar: on several computers?
[21:05] <lidar> comparing to them selves or the pub;lished md5sum ?
[21:05] <dragonfly> lidar, that was the first thing I tried. But enabling them just didn't worked out. I am having a real hard time working at 92 degrees :(
[21:05] <ejv> seems pretty silly they'd all be different, the published md5sum
[21:05] <xperiamaniac> need help installling ubuntu 11.04 using wubi and iso
[21:05] <xperiamaniac> gettin a permission denied error
[21:05] <lidar> dragonfly, syslog have an error about it ?
[21:06] <dragonfly> No
[21:06] <k1l> xperiamaniac: wubi :/ and why 11.04? support is running out soon
[21:06] <dragonfly> There is nothing relevant
[21:06] <xperiamaniac> just wana see how it is
[21:06] <xperiamaniac> compared to 12
[21:06] <xperiamaniac> any help wud be appriciated :)
[21:06] <gordonjcp> xperiamaniac: buggy, slow
[21:07] <xperiamaniac> ???
[21:07] <k1l> xperiamaniac: then try the live-cd/-stick. but i prefer  real installation befor wubi.
[21:07] <xperiamaniac> i felt 12 is buggy and sow
[21:07] <lidar> xperiamaniac, stick with the new you will be happier person!
[21:07] <ejv> linux-headers-3.2.0-29_3.2.0-29.46_all.deb - "file failed md5 checksm verification"
[21:07] <xperiamaniac> 10 was awsome
[21:07] <gordonjcp> xperiamaniac: unity was a bit underdeveloped back then
[21:07] <ejv> ...
[21:07] <P3pp3R> !list
[21:08] <gordonjcp> 12 is somewhat memory-hungry but it performs pretty well in 1G
[21:08] <xperiamaniac> yes i do agree but just wanna see how it works with a 512 mb ram
[21:08] <dragonfly> lidar:  I uninstalled the vmware but even that didnt do anything helpful
[21:08] <xperiamaniac> :)
[21:08] <Fuzzy_Wuzzy> can't access ubuntu.com in midori either
[21:08] <gordonjcp> it helps to either disable 3D acceleration or use a decent card with hardware acceleration - ditching the crappy onboard Intel and going for NVidia made a big difference
[21:09] <gordonjcp> Fuzzy_Wuzzy: ... but you can look up the ip address?
[21:09] <Fuzzy_Wuzzy> yes
[21:09] <lidar> Fuzzy_Wuzzy, try just http://ip-address
[21:09] <thunkee> Fuzzy_Wuzzy: next give traceroute www.ubuntu.com a try
[21:10] <flyer3_> do people talk in tis channel
[21:10] <xperiamaniac> ny help guys?
[21:11] <opieng> hi all, please help! Need a quick answer, rebooting from windows to install Ubuntu 12.04 64bit from CD "Error "Prefix" not fixed"... then goes straight to the GNU GRUB Version 1.99-21ubuntu3.1 screen. I checked the disc for errors there are no errors, does anyone know if this error message has anything to do with Ubuntu?
[21:11] <Guest69887> How to open: ~/.xchat2/ ?
[21:11] <gordonjcp> xperiamaniac: 512MB, 11.04?
[21:11] <xperiamaniac> yup
[21:11] <xperiamaniac> you @ gordonjcp
[21:11] <k1l> !ot > flyer3_
[21:11] <xperiamaniac> yup*
[21:11] <Guest69887> How can I open this folder, ~/.xchat2/ ?
[21:11] <gordonjcp> xperiamaniac: it will be a painful and horrifying experience that will put you off computers for life
[21:12] <thunkee> Guest62958: make hidden files visible in your filemanager
[21:12] <xperiamaniac> how abt 10?
[21:12] <k1l> Guest69887: just open your home directory and press ctrl+h
[21:12] <Fuzzy_Wuzzy> traceroute www.ubuntu.com gives a bunch of adresses, then hops 16-30 are just * * *, and that's it :/
[21:13] <Guest69887> k1l i cant see the folder .xchat2
[21:13] <opieng> lidar, you might know the answer to my question, please see above, thanks
[21:13] <gordonjcp> Fuzzy_Wuzzy: sounds like your connection is hosed
[21:13] <k1l> Guest69887: because its hidden. press ctrl+h
[21:13] <thunkee> Fuzzy_Wuzzy: looks like your provider has a problem with www.ubuntu.com
[21:13] <xperiamaniac> :(
[21:13] <Guest69887> k1l i did that.
[21:13] <k1l> Guest69887: if its not there you might not have xchat :)
[21:14] <Guest69887> k1l i am using xchat right now lol
[21:14] <Fuzzy_Wuzzy> I'll boot into windows and try from there.
[21:14] <k1l> Guest69887: no. you use chatzilla :/
[21:14] <lidar> opieng, never saw that error does it give the option install boot live system ect from grub ?
[21:14] <Guest69887> On other client k1l
[21:15] <Guest69887> ah, found it k1l
[21:15] <eugene__> Hello. I am having a very strange situation with utf-9 encoding. What I am finally doing is this: Open a document in gedit, copy/paste into LibreWriter and save "encoded text" format. Repeat with another file. When I do diff 2 new files, I am getting all text different!
[21:15] <k1l> :/
[21:15] <eugene__> utf-8*
[21:15] <opieng> lidar, Yes, I can (a) try Ubuntu (b) Install Ubuntu (c) check for disc errors
[21:15] <opieng> I am at that screen now
[21:16] <eugene__> When I do diff into original files they are also shown all different but spaces! Though the text is almost identical
[21:16] <xperiamaniac> can anyone help me wid ubuntu 10 install within windows
[21:16] <lidar> opieng, pick try ubuntu does it work ?
[21:17] <lidar> xperiamaniac, just use virtualbox ?
[21:17] <opieng> lidar, trying that now..
[21:17] <xperiamaniac> virtual box?
[21:17] <xperiamaniac> i have virtual pc installed
[21:17] <gordonjcp> opieng: if you do "try ubuntu" you can still install once you get it up and running
[21:17] <xperiamaniac> but dat takes a lotta memory
[21:18] <lidar> xperiamaniac, yeah .. but easy to try it out
[21:18] <Fuzzy_Wuzzy> okay, so one more thing before I reboot - how do I close pidgin, and other programs that might act in such a sneaky way for that matter? I mean in a nice way, without having to use the console to find what's running and killing it through there.
[21:18] <xperiamaniac> yes but it dst work on virtual pc
[21:18] <dragonfly> lidar any help on my wireless card is treated as ethernet?
[21:19] <brian_> hey yLL
[21:19] <lolek> hello all
[21:19] <WeThePeople> fuzzy_wuzzy, system monitor
[21:19] <drag0nius2> whats some CLI network monitor?
[21:19] <lolek> i did little google research but cun't find answer, how can i import network settings which i exported from ubuntu 10.04 into 11.04 ?
[21:20] <UL1> Quick question about Totem 2.30.2 not playing DVD. Error is "Could not read from Resource".  I tried loading the extended codecs, rebooting, with no luck.
[21:20] <drag0nius2> dl/upload
[21:20] <WeThePeople> drag0nius2, wireshark
[21:20] <BarkingFish> evening guys, can someone remind me of where the documentation for grub2 is please? I have a guy  in #kubuntu experiencing video issues and I want to switch him to a text only boot :)
[21:20] <Fuzzy_Wuzzy> WeThePeople: cool, thanks. What about pidgin/empathy specifically? Killing it via system monitor is still a bit ugly for my taste ^^
[21:21] <BarkingFish> he is getting black and white alternating lines when he picks to boot kubuntu, rather than a video output
[21:21] <drag0nius2> but its in command line?
[21:21] <brontosaurusrex> UL1, vlc plays?
[21:21] <thunkee> BarkingFish: quick he could press ctrl+alt+F1
[21:21] <lidar> anonymous_, dcc chat ?
[21:21] <xperiamaniac> :(
[21:21] <WeThePeople> fuzzy_wuzzy, its either a left or right click over the icon in the panel and close it from there
[21:22] <WeThePeople> usually right
[21:22] <lidar> dragonfly, take output from lspci and throw it in google
[21:22] <BarkingFish> thunkee, i want to get him to edit his config, I know i switched to text only by disabling plymouth and setting a verbose boot, also took out the splash option
[21:22] <lidar> dragonfly, just the line about your wifi
[21:23] <opieng> xperiamaniac, I recommend a virtual machine if you have not used Ubuntu before and wanted to try it through windows.. as a new linux and Ubuntu new user it helped me a lot, just sharing my experience.
[21:23] <lolek> i did little google research but cun't find answer, how can i import network settings which i exported from ubuntu 10.04 into 11.04, cause there is no import option in network settings in ubuntu 11.04 ...;/
[21:23] <WeThePeople> drag0nius2, what specifically are yo looking for ina network monitor
[21:23] <UL1> Brontosaurusrex I'm loading it now. It wasn't installed.
[21:23] <drag0nius2> need to see upload/download on eth0
[21:24] <Fuzzy_Wuzzy> tried right-clicking on the pidgin icon in the sidebar thingy and selecting quit, but it keeps running in the background :(
[21:24] <xperiamaniac> thanks opieng :)
[21:24] <dragonfly> lidar, already tried that. Cant find anything helpful
[21:24] <xperiamaniac> but unable to install it on virtual machine
[21:24] <xperiamaniac> :(
[21:24] <drag0nius2> something like netlimiter
[21:24] <xperiamaniac> getting permission denied error :(
[21:24] <drag0nius2> show what program uses how much bandwidth
[21:24] <lidar> dragonfly, show me how lspci calls it
[21:25] <opieng> xperiamaniac, I found VMWare Player to be really good or VirtualBox, both are really good.. for me they were anyways
[21:25] <xperiamaniac> vmware says that insuf memory to isnatl
[21:25] <xperiamaniac> install*
[21:25] <dragonfly> Hang on, I am on another machine right now, in another room.
[21:25] <xperiamaniac> virtual box i havent tried
[21:26] <SolarisBoy> virtualbox is pretty cool
[21:26] <xperiamaniac> righet now i have removed all traces of ubuntu from reistry
[21:26] <xperiamaniac> now gona try insatlling again
[21:26] <lidar> xperiamaniac, why not just do a dual boot ?
[21:27] <opieng> lidar, Do you think that error message has anything to do with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1757213
[21:27] <UL1> Brontosaurusrex: VLC starts to load it and then drops out.
[21:27] <lolek> lidar: better don't offer this option to a guy who never tried linux... trust me
[21:27] <xperiamaniac> install from windows or booot from cd?
[21:27] <UL1> Brontosaurusrex: No error message with VLC either.
[21:27] <xperiamaniac> i am using the iso image
[21:27] <WeThePeople> drag0nius2, pyshaper
[21:27] <opieng> lidar, ubuntu seems to work ok from the "Try Ubuntu option"...
[21:28] <lidar> opieng, if it boots and runs fine then dont worry about it
[21:28] <WeThePeople> drag0nius2, http://freecode.com/projects/pyshaper
[21:28] <brontosaurusrex> UL1, perhaps a borken media then
[21:28] <UL1> Brontosaurusrex: The disk is a brand new store bought dvd, not a copy. (Plays in DVD player without errors.)
[21:29] <aguitel> anyway to install amsn in 12.04 ?
[21:29] <willwork4foo> I just discovered the weirdest fix ever. But it works. I was wondering why my VirtualBox VMs were freezing up all the time, and also why my sound output wasn't working when I put my laptop (Lenovo T420) into it's dock...
[21:29] <UL1> I'll blast the dvd with air and try another disk.
[21:29] <willwork4foo> The fix for BOTH problems in one go: append "options snd-hda-intel model=thinkpad" to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[21:29] <SolarisBoy> UL1: have you tried this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs ?
[21:29] <opieng> LiDar, Is it safe to install Ubuntu now from "Install Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS" from the Ubuntu desktop as gordonjcp suggested or would it be better to reboot and choose the option to install Ubuntu from the Grub menu?
[21:30] <brontosaurusrex> UL1, some new cactus protection stuff maybe, try some other dvd yes
[21:30] <UL1> SolarisBoy: Yes
[21:30] <SolarisBoy> k
[21:30] <UL1> ok, brb. thx brontosaurusrex and SolarisBoy. :)
[21:30] <WeThePeople> drag0nius2, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=99321
[21:30] <LiDar> opieng, yeah sure go ahead and install same result
[21:31] <SolarisBoy> your welcome UL1
[21:31] <opieng> LiDar, thanks! I hope this all goes well. Really looking forward to using Ubuntu more :)
[21:31] <LiDar> opieng, slower computers struggle running from livecd and installing .. if its running the livecd fine it should have no problem
[21:31] <brian_> im trying smuxi out
[21:31] <brian_> it kinda sux
[21:32] <brian_> xchat >
[21:32] <LiDar> what does smuxi do ?
[21:32] <brian_> its an irc client
[21:32] <LiDar> oh ok \
[21:32] <brian_> but idk if i like it
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> irssi <3
[21:33] <SolarisBoy> +1
[21:33] <Crawly> SolarisBoy: Error: "1" is not a valid command.
[21:33] <LiDar> screen + irssi
[21:33] <MrBoss> i'm have problem to install wine in ubuntu 12.04.1 x64
[21:33] <SolarisBoy> great combination
[21:33] <MonkeyDust> MrBoss  sudo apt-get install wine
[21:33] <opieng> lidar, just one last check... it is ok to install ubuntu on my HDD when Windows is already installed on my SSD?
[21:34] <LiDar> opieng, sure ... just make sure you dont format the wrong drive
[21:35] <LiDar> opieng, not that i have ever done that but ... it sure makes for a bit of panic realizing your porn collection is gone
[21:35] <lolek> hmmm ok, maybe a little different question: does someone knows where is the import network setting button in ubuntu 11.04 ?
[21:35] <opieng> I have partioned my HDD for installing Ubuntu.. 80GB for Ubuntu and 16GB for Swap (I have16GB RAM)
[21:36] <LiDar> opieng, your good then
[21:36] <lolek> sorrry
[21:36] <lolek> 11.10
[21:36] <opieng> LiDar, Thanks
[21:36] <LiDar> lolek, what kind of network settings are you importing ?
[21:36] <MonkeyDust> opieng  divide the 80GB further, create separate / and /home partitions
[21:37] <MonkeyDust> opieng  10GB for / and 70GB for /home -- or so
[21:37] <MrBoss> MonkeyDust, don't install,
[21:37] <krababbel> Why would xdm not start after boot? I have to 'sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start' manually.
[21:37] <opieng> MonkeyDust, any reason why, sorry I am new to ubuntu
[21:37] <lolek> LiDar:  did exported network setting from ubuntu 10.04 from my lappie, and want to import it to the second lappie with ubu 11.10 but i can't find import option in 11.10 which was visible next to export button in network manager configuration dialog in ubuntu 10.04
[21:37] <nannes> Hello, I have a non-support question
[21:38] <MonkeyDust> opieng  it's easier to upgrade or reinstall, you'll keep your personal docs
[21:38] <k1l> !ot > nannes
[21:38] <nannes>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:38] <LiDar> lolek, is it just a normal connection wouldnt it be simpler to just to set it up again quick ..
[21:38] <lolek> LiDar: ...vpn
[21:38] <indian555> hi I need help please PM me........I want to disable ICMP outgoing and incoming requests....
[21:39] <opieng> oh ok, I might need your input during the install I am doing at the moment :)
[21:39] <Help_Pidgin> Hello all
[21:39] <Help_Pidgin> I am having great difficulties with pidgin and need help
[21:40] <Help_Pidgin> I am running the 2.10 variant which as I understand is bugulant.
[21:40] <Help_Pidgin> as such I wish to install 2.7 or 2.9 or whatever is latest but Ubuntu just will not do it!
[21:40] <lolek> LiDar: it's vpn and trust me i don't want to do it again from scratch ... i did it well a year ago i don't remember all the stuff
[21:40] <Help_Pidgin> I tried to update the repositories (I think)
[21:40] <Help_Pidgin> but it has not worked
[21:40] <Help_Pidgin> can anyone please help me?
[21:40] <LiDar> Help_Pidgin, what version of ubuntu ?
[21:41] <Help_Pidgin> 12.04
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> !info pidgin
[21:41] <Help_Pidgin> 2.10 has bugs that are fixed in like 2.7 or 2.9 or that
[21:41] <MonkeyDust> Help_Pidgin  you can always report bugs in launchpad
[21:42] <Help_Pidgin> anyone familiarized with installing 2.7 or 2.9.x on 12.04?
[21:42] <LiDar> Help_Pidgin, 2.10 is newer than 2.7 so the bugs would be fixed in the 2.10 version
[21:42] <Help_Pidgin> excuse me, the bugs are fixed
[21:42] <lolek> LiDar: any ideas where that option "went" ?
[21:42] <Help_Pidgin> oh
[21:42] <LiDar> lolek, no idea
[21:42] <opieng> MonkeyDust, would it be better to do that parition when I am in Ubuntu or do it now in Windows?
[21:42] <Help_Pidgin> ok
[21:42] <lolek> :/
[21:42] <krababbel> Why would xdm not start after boot? I have to 'sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start' manually. Is there a log to see what happened?
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> opieng  wubi?
[21:42] <opieng> no dual boot
[21:42] <LiDar> lolek, is the backup file for the setting a xml file you can just open with a text editror ?
[21:42] <MonkeyDust> opieng  do it with the live cd or usb
[21:42] <lolek> LiDar: ok .. so maybe you know where network manager store it's network settings ?
[21:43] <lolek> LiDar: it's plain/text file.. probably they just did copy of the settings file.. but i don't know the location of network manager settings :)
[21:43] <LiDar> lolek, not specifically but start looking in /etc
[21:43] <opieng> MonkeyDust, during the Ubuntu installation?
[21:43] <lolek> LiDar: hmm isn't network manager user dependent ?
[21:43] <LiDar> opieng, the ubuntu installer will do it fine
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> opieng  are you now in the live session?
[21:43] <W4sp> krababbel: Does a different DM start or do you have console login after boot?
[21:44] <krababbel> W4sp: I have a console login.
[21:44] <opieng> MonkeyDust, Yes
[21:44] <opieng> Ok thanks.
[21:44] <LiDar> lolek, both i beleive there are system wide and user .. if user it would be ~/.network or soemthing
[21:45] <MonkeyDust> opieng  ok, good, then type sudo fdisk -l|pastebinit and paste the url here in the channel
[21:45] <lolek> LiDar: k
[21:45] <W4sp> krababbel: Does xdm come up when you start it manually?
[21:45] <krababbel> W4sp: after login, I can start xdm manually, and everything is OK, but I don't understand why xdm won't start by itself. I reinstalled it too laready
[21:45] <SuperMiguel> does ubuntu support usb 3.0?
[21:45] <krababbel> W4sp: yes, i can start it via init.d
[21:45] <krababbel> SuperMiguel: works for me
[21:46] <SuperMiguel> krababbel: how do i know if it is working??
[21:46] <lwizardl> hello
[21:46] <krababbel> SuperMiguel: I have an external HDD case, usb3
[21:46] <W4sp> krababbel: The standard usggestion would be dpkg_reconfigure xdm and then select xdm from the menu. I suppose you done that already.
[21:46] <utu-san> SuperMiguel: plugin a usb 3.0 dev
[21:46] <lwizardl> if i have a bunch of github.com links how do i clone them to my local hdd ?
[21:47] <LiDar> SuperMiguel, unplug the device and plug it back in .. then look at output from dmesg
[21:47] <LiDar> SuperMiguel, it will say usb2.0 device usb3.0 ect.
[21:47] <LiDar> krababbel, did you change your runlevel ?
[21:48] <sin_tax> can anyone tell me why whenever I attempt to login to my server as a certain user via SSH, the connection is immediately closed?
[21:48] <krababbel> W4sp: the dpkg thing, no, I never found easy documentation on that. I just tried reconfigure xdm, it said the links already existed.
[21:48] <LiDar> sin_tax, root is disabled default
[21:48] <MonkeyDust> !root > sin_tax
[21:48] <krababbel> LiDar: no, this is new install too, I did install a console only type, not the standard desktop
[21:49] <sin_tax> LiDar, I am trying to log in as a user I created; I can log into SSH as my 'main' account as well as via another account I created
[21:49] <LiDar> krababbel, do you want the desktop ? can just apt-get instal ubuntu-desktop i think is the metapackage
[21:49] <krababbel> LiDar: I had done a testinstall in virtualbox just before that, and it worked. AFter setup I installed xorg, xdm and i3 window manager.
[21:49] <ekw> Anybody else having trouble getting to ubuntu.com or just me?
[21:49] <W4sp> krababbel: I see. Try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xdm' and select xdm. One more thing... There's a bug in this. If possible select lightdm first to see if your X comes up at all.
[21:49] <krababbel> LiDar: I don't want that
[21:50] <krababbel> W4sp: that command says: System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/xdm already exist.
[21:50] <SuperMiguel> LiDar: [13348.624476] sd 12:0:0:0: [sdc] 2930210816 512-byte logical blocks: (1.50 TB/1.36 TiB)
[21:50] <SuperMiguel> [13348.624565] ses 12:0:0:1: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 13
[21:51] <LiDar> SuperMiguel, above or below that it should mention usb 2.0
[21:51] <krababbel> W4sp: ok, I will try lightdm too. In virtualbox I had weir issues with urxvt though, the colours and inputs were wrong, but maybe that was another thing.
[21:51] <krababbel> W4sp: I mean on my first test I had used lightdm
[21:51] <SuperMiguel>  LiDar scsi12 : usb-storage 3-2:1.0
[21:52] <Signux> I don't want to see grub menu, i have just one OS (ubuntu), but i have to see this menu. how to hide it?
[21:52] <krababbel> SuperMiguel: Maybe 'sudo lshw |grep USB' helps.
[21:52] <W4sp> krababbel: OK, See if /etc/init/plymouth-stop.conf starts with xdm as the bug in dpkg_configure goofs it up. :-(
[21:52] <LiDar> bye bbl
[21:53] <antoine__> bonjour
[21:53] <antoine__> hellow
[21:53] <krababbel> W4sp: How can I see if it starts with xdm?
[21:54] <antoine__> how can I creat a ftp server ?
[21:54] <antoine__> pllease
[21:54] <antoine__> please
[21:54] <jimi_> After using HDMI out, the only options I have for my video card are 800x600 and 1024x780... i used to have a lot more than this...
[21:55] <krababbel> antoine__: I found it easier to scp, do you really need an ftp server, or do you just want to copy files?
[21:55] <SuperMiguel> krababbel: that doesnt display anything usefull
[21:56] <sin_tax> I still don't know why this user can't SSH into my server... Here is the verbose SSH log: http://pastebin.com/aD14F93u  Anyone have a clue?  Password authentication is valid, I have no idea why the connection closes.
[21:56] <krababbel> SuperMiguel: maybe search through the output of 'sudo lshw' manually.
[21:57] <W4sp> krababbel: Did you try...? sudo vi /etc/init/plymouth-stop.conf . Between the pipes '|' xdm should come first, followed by lightdm and so on.
[21:57] <antoine__> infact I want to create a ftp server to share documents with my friends
[21:57] <krababbel> W4sp: after kdm, xdm is second, then lxdm, lightdm, ...
[21:58] <krababbel> W4sp: didn't see gdm is actually first, then kdm, xdm
[21:58] <antoine__> not to lodge a web site
[21:58] <ekelly> I am seeing two issues that I feel may be connected. One presents as a crash: "_usr_bin_Xorg.0.crash". This occurs on an account with administrative privileges. The other issue is a non-administrative user being logged out randomly (usually during google chrome usage, but this is 90% what the machine is used for so it may be coincidence). How should I go about characterising these issues so I can seek more help
[21:59] <W4sp> krababbel: Yes. The entire dpkg-reconfigre is goofed up. So, you now know that where to start.
[21:59] <crazySDman> Is there anyone I can get in touch with who blocks IPs for http://ubuntu.com , http://launchpad.net , & http://canonical.com ? :(
[21:59] <krababbel> W4sp: sorry, now I see it, xdm isn't there between the pipes
[21:59] <antoine__> I arrive to installe a pakadge withe a ftp server but I don't know how can conect mi on it
[22:00] <krababbel> W4sp: Thanks a lot
[22:00] <antoine__> sorry for my bad english but I'm french
[22:00] <W4sp> krababbel: It anyway should start a different DM if xdm isn't there. IT's another bug perhaps.
[22:00] <Dr_Willis> !fr | antoine__
[22:00] <antoine__> oki
[22:00] <krababbel> W4sp: xdm is my only login manager, do you mean that?
[22:01] <W4sp> krababbel: You must have lightdm somewhere. This is Ubuntu, isn't it?
[22:01] <krababbel> W4sp: this is a console install, not the usual desktop, there was no manager at all after setup :)
[22:01] <krababbel> W4sp: I used the alternate installer
[22:02] <W4sp> krababbel: So it's minimal installation, and on top you installed X11?
[22:02] <Super8> Ubuntu gnome support desktop widgets?
[22:02] <krababbel> W4sp: yes, I installed xorg, xdm and a window manager i3
[22:02] <Signux> I have Windows as dual-boot system, now i remove it and i have just Ubuntu as OS, but grub menu is still showing, How to hide grub menu?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> krababbel: nice
[22:03] <krababbel> ActionParsnip: :) It is, didn't know ubuntu allowed that through a different installer
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Signux: what about if you run:  sudo update-grub
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> krababbel: yes the mini installer is awesome
[22:04] <W4sp> krababbel: Hmmm. Do you have /etc/X11/default-display-manager with jist one line in it?
[22:04] <Super8> Guys?
[22:04] <Super8> Ubuntu gnome support desktop widgets?
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> Super8: I believe so
[22:04] <SuperMiguel> krababbel: http://pastebin.com/0NX6hzSZ
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> Super8:  theres some widgits you can get.. but i think the  idea of the widgit on the desktop is dieing out.
[22:04] <Dr_Willis> !info gdesklets
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> !info wxwidget
[22:04] <krababbel> W4sp: yes, it just says /usr/bin/xdm
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> Super8:  check out conky also. and gdesklets.
[22:05] <Super8> What is KDE Plasma Widget Plasmoids
[22:05] <Signux> ActionParsnip : I run it, but nothing happen
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> at one time the Opera and google widgits worked.
[22:05] <Dr_Willis> Super8:  those are for kde.. like it says..
[22:05] <Super8> Ah kde.
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Signux: did it show the kernels but not windows
[22:06] <Signux> ActionParsnip : yes
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> !find xdesklet
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> Signux: but grub still loads..?
[22:06] <brontosaurusrex> Super8, what kind of info would you need?
[22:07] <Signux> ActionParsnip : yes, grub still loads
[22:07] <Super8> brontosaurusrex, huh?
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> Signux: can you pastebin your /etc/default/grub   file please
[22:07] <krababbel> SuperMiguel: I am not 100% sure, but I would guess it works as usb3, because those controllers need different drivers than usb2. My controller also says 'xhci_hcd'. And in /var/log/ somewhere there are generated a lot of messages/errors about xhci_hcd too. This is a bug, which has been noticed for two weeks or so, should also go away soon hopefully, but it works for me alright.
[22:07] <brontosaurusrex> Super8, with conky for example, weather is pain, but cpu usage is easy ...
[22:08] <Super8> ill go for gdesklets for now.
[22:08] <Signux> ActionParsnip : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1168857/
[22:09] <krababbel> SuperMiguel: so I meant that without support for your usb3, you wouldn't see anything you connect to the usb3 ports in linux.
[22:09] <ekelly> What does the "!find" and "!info" do? I've used it as a means to do the last command with that word but never seen it used like this?
[22:10] <Kitty_> Hey guys, I'm looking for a good program to burn music CDs, having issues with K3b though. Any ideas?
[22:10] <SuperMiguel> krababbel: umm
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> Signux: I have: GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=true
[22:10] <lewis1711> what command is run when "media hot keys" are pressed? like pause, play on laptops. I thought it was XF86AudioNext but I don't have those
[22:11] <babyrodger> Banshee, Rhythmbox, and Brasero all burn cds.
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> Signux: and: GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0   is uncommented
[22:11] <lewis1711> I like brasero myself
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut | lewis1711
[22:11] <Kitty_> K, lemme try those lol
[22:11] <Signux> ActionParsnip : let me test
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> Kitty_: xfburn is pretty decent
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> Signux: here is mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1168864/
[22:13] <lewis1711> ActionParsnip: I am wanting to map keys to whatever commands they run manually in a stand alone windows manager. though that gives me something to go off
[22:14] <`DjM4X> been using internet on ubuntu all day long (wired) and i plugged it off my laptop to use it on my desktop, now the laptop internet won't work anymore and i havent changed anything. double checked wired connection information and it's all correct. any clue?
[22:15] <Kitty_> Awesome, it's working, thanks guys!
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> lewis1711: in the keyboard settings you can double click the action then press the key to set it
[22:16] <W4sp> krababbel: I can't tell really. I haven't a minimal with X11 installed (will do later tho).
[22:16] <lewis1711> what I need is what command is actually run when I press the keys, which keyboard settings seems to hide
[22:17] <vamp774> Dj:  you unplugged the cable from your laptop and put in in your desktop Im assuming you are implying when you put it back in the laptop the web doesnt work right?
[22:21] <Saiki> does anyone know how to fix "file not found" on 12.04 x64 (the file IS there, but I cannoy open it in a command line
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> Saiki: where is the file and where do you want it?
[22:22] <SuperMiguel> what can i use to test read and write speed of my external drive???
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> SuperMiguel: sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sdX
[22:23] <randomDude> tried to quit docky, noticed in htop it was using 745% cpu.... lol'd
[22:23] <joubin> Can anyone tell me if they are having issues installing ubuntu 12.4.1? keeps telling me that there are missing items and that the disk is damaged. However, Im using a flashdrive and ive tried it multiple times
[22:24] <gordonjcp> randomDude: I'm amazed how often "lighweight" apps run off screaming into the impossibly high CPU load end of things
[22:24] <randomDude> gordonjcp: docky is anything but lightweight.
[22:24] <SuperMiguel> ActionParsnip: 8358.25 MB/sec really?
[22:24] <gordonjcp> randomDude: well yeah
[22:24] <randomDude> gordonjcp: lightweight docks, tint2 holds that title.
[22:25] <krababbel> W4sp: thanks anyway, I hope, this did it, I edited plymouth-stop.conf
[22:25] <brontosaurusrex> randomDude, tint2 is not a dock like docky, its a config monster
[22:25] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: it's where it should be
[22:25] <vamp774> Joubin:  Maybe try burning another cd or the iso is corrupt
[22:26] <W4sp> krababbel: Very welcome. Just one question. Did you use mini.iso?
[22:26] <Saiki> ActionParsnip: I can open the file through a GUI, I cannoy open the file in command line
[22:26] <vamp774> I just installed 12.04 this morning and all went well
[22:26] <krababbel> W4sp: I used the alternate-installer.iso
[22:26] <d34d1ys1nz> Anyone know of a good firewall for ubuntu 11.04 - Firefox isn't loading websites
[22:27] <bhamrick> anyone have any advice for creating a new user on 12.04 via ssh? my new user is set up but my bash environment is strange, no tab complete or history and no directory context
[22:27] <W4sp> krababbel: I see. Thanks for the info. Did it come up after reboot?
[22:27] <Signux> ActionParsnip: Thank you, just because  GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 is commented, i log in ubuntu without grub ;)
[22:27] <joubin> vamp774 Ive downloaded the iso 4 times (the server edition). I have downloaded it using torrent and direct http. Ive also burned it to cds and made bootable flashdrives. all fail with the same perl missing and saying that the disk is damaged (even with USB)
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> Signux: yay
[22:28] <vamp774> 64 bit or 32?
[22:28] <bhamrick> added a user via useradd, created a password, created authorized_keys file in .ssh and set ownership and permissions
[22:28] <vamp774> the hard disk or the cd it thinks is messed up?
[22:29] <joubin> 64 with the http download and 32 with the torrent
[22:29] <crazySDman> I'm hoping someone can tell me who to contact about bans of IPs for ubuntu.com, launchpad.net, and canonical.com ?
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> bhamrick: copy .bashrc  and .profile  from /root to the user's home, and chown it to the new user. you'll need to uncomment the bottom few lines then run:  source ~/.bashrc    to load the new config
[22:29] <vamp774> I havent used the new server edition yet I still use like 11.10
[22:29] <Signux> ActionParsnip: for loading ubuntu, is something must be shown like ( Loading Ubuntu or something)
[22:29] <vamp774> thats bizzare
[22:29] <Signux> ?
[22:30] <joubin> yeah. What ive dne is downloaded the 11.10
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> Signux: if you use proprietary video drivers, you won't see plymouth
[22:30] <joubin> and ive been updating
[22:30] <vamp774> that will work but really backwards lol
[22:30] <vamp774> good idea
[22:30] <joubin> Thanks anyways @vamp774.
[22:31] <vamp774> Hey I tried
[22:31] <vamp774> Is that working though is it installing?
[22:31] <joubin> yeah. Im all the way up to 12.04 now. after doing the updates
[22:31] <Signux> ActionParsnip: i just see violet screen!!
[22:31] <joubin> I just wish I could have done a clean install :(
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> Signux: do you eventually get a login screen?
[22:32] <vamp774> lol.  Is it an older machine or newer?
[22:32] <bhamrick> ActionParsnip: I'm getting errors from bashrc, shopt: not found and /etc/bash_completion: [[: not found
[22:32] <ciao> addon
[22:32] <joubin> its the acer revo, bout it in 09. Im reinstalling because I just put a SSD in it
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> bhamrick: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[22:33] <vamp774> haha cool.  I've had nothing but trouble with my ssd.  awesome before it died
[22:33] <Signux> ActionParsnip: yes, at first, violet screen, after that i get login screen
[22:33] <vamp774> you boot in like 5 seconds
[22:33] <bhamrick> ActionParsnip: precise
[22:34] <joubin> @vamp774: I use to have this SSD in my macbook Pro. Sold it and got an air. So I thought I put it in my ubuntu. hopefully it doesnt die. Its just going to have the OS on it.
[22:34] <bhamrick> ActionParsnip: I copied them from the ubuntu user auto-created by AWS (this is an ec2 instance)
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> bhamrick: is the new user called shopt by any chance?
[22:35] <vamp774> nice thats what i did.  I got so tired of opening my case I just disconnected the SATA cable out the back lol w/out going near the mobo.  I basically forgot cable management :D
[22:35] <krababbel> W4sp: didn't try, I am doing something :)
[22:35] <cody_> what the apt get-install for java?
[22:35] <bhamrick> ActionParsnip: no it's my name
[22:35] <cody_> what is
[22:35] <d34d1ys1nz> I can't visit any websites or login to my router page but I can be on irc. Anyone have any suggestions?
[22:35] <joubin> nice. Liev and learn. Right?
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> bhamrick: did you copy the files from /root ?
[22:36] <vamp774> yep.  Eh it was a cheaper SSD
[22:36] <bhamrick> ActionParsnip: the ubuntu user is root, yeah, amazon renames it
[22:36] <bhamrick> ActionParsnip: guess I should find a bashrc for a non-root user?
[22:36] <vamp774> @d34dlyslnz:  Just use ufw
[22:36] <vamp774> sudo ufw enable
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> bhamrick: I can give you mine, so you don't have the nonesense in it.
[22:37] <bhamrick> ActionParsnip: that would be awesome, thanks
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> bhamrick: wget -O ~/.bashrc https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/bashrc; wget -O ~/.profile https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/profile; source ~/.bashrc
[22:39] <joubin> Alright, gotta reboot. Im out. Thanks @vamp774
[22:39] <vamp774> @joubin no problem  hope it all works out for ya
[22:41] <Cong> why doesn't empathy + hotmail work?
[22:41] <TheLordOfTime> hotmail's evil that way, Cong
[22:41] <TheLordOfTime> Cong: last i heard, they don't allow access via IMAP or POP3 unless you pay money
[22:41] <Cong> it's not evil, gmail is. they read your mail for you.
[22:42] <TheLordOfTime> that may have changed, but i havent heard of them changing policy (that's Microsoft for you)
[22:42] <TheLordOfTime> Cong:  exactly why I run my own mailserver.  Problem? :P
[22:42] <TheLordOfTime> no but seriously...
[22:42] <TheLordOfTime> Cong: i think Microsoft hasnt revoked their policies on hotmail and email clients.
[22:42] <Cong> so messing uses imap and pop3?
[22:42] <Cong> messaging*
[22:43] <TheLordOfTime> Cong:  i misunderstood, that's a different protocol i think
[22:43] <W4sp> krababbel: :-)
[22:43] <SolarisBoy> indeed
[22:43]  * TheLordOfTime forgot empathy for a sec
[22:43] <TheLordOfTime> actually...
[22:43] <TheLordOfTime> just tested on mine
[22:43] <Flannel> Cong, TheLordOfTime: If you have an old hotmail account (back when they did pop), you're grandfathered into POP.  Otherwise you'll have to use a scraper (there are a few in the repos) to emulate POP.
[22:43] <TheLordOfTime> i got on for 5 seconds and then was kicked
[22:43] <TheLordOfTime> Flannel:  what about IM?
[22:43] <TheLordOfTime> Flannel:  (Empathy doesnt maintain the connection)
[22:43] <Flannel> TheLordOfTime: IM?
[22:43] <TheLordOfTime> actually wait a second...
[22:43]  * TheLordOfTime might've seen something on that
[22:44] <opieng> Whao! Coming at your live from Ubuntu success dual boot install, thanks for your help everyone
[22:44] <W4sp> krababbel: Just my nosiness. Actually, I'm keen to know if it turns out well for you.
[22:44] <peterrus> is there some way to disable thumbnail generation on specific folders?
[22:44] <Flannel> Oh, MSN Messenger.  That's dependent on what stage the client is vs the server.  MS (and Yahoo, and AIM) will change their server protocols occassionally, and it breaks clients that aren't updated.
[22:44] <drag0nius2> if theres traffic on wlan0 to/from internet
[22:44] <drag0nius2> trhough eth0
[22:44] <drag0nius2> would eth0 show it?
[22:45] <krababbel> W4sp: I hope I am finished soon, didn't know moving around 500GB and doing a diff to be sure would take that long. My USB drive shutting down for some reason in the middle of that didn't help either. :)
[22:46] <Cong> it hasn't been fixed in like 4 years. LTS lasts 5 years right?
[22:46] <TheLordOfTime> Cong:  Flannel:  there's a significant number of "Incomplete" bug reports to the end that MSN Messenger isnt working on Empathy
[22:46] <krababbel> drag0nius2: if you capture with tcpdump in promiscous mode,the default, yes.
[22:46] <Jack_Smirnoff> !flash
[22:47] <hector> anyone here knows a reason that jockey would not detect drivers for gtx 670m?
[22:47] <W4sp> krababbel: What goes around, comes around. :-)
[22:48] <bhamrick> jesus christ, just realized why bashrc wasn't loading, apparently newly created users don't default to use bash
[22:49] <Cong> I say take out msn from empathy. That way no more complaints.
[22:49] <Saiki> does anyone know how to fix "file not found" on 12.04 x64 (the file IS there, and is where it should be, but I cannot open it in a command line)
[22:50] <drag0nius2> and how about bmon?
[22:51] <testi> How I can override the software-centers default to not install purchases on non-supported versions of Ubuntu?
[22:51] <Jack_Smirnoff> Saiki, does ls in term show it
[22:52] <testi> Is there a way to manually download the debian package?
[22:52] <hector> is jockey working on 12.04.1?
[22:52] <Saiki> Jack_Smirnoff: yes
[22:53] <Jack_Smirnoff> what command are you trying to run?
[22:53] <opieng> can anyone recommend any good software as a new Ubuntu user?
[22:53] <Saiki> Jack_Smirnoff: simple ./filename
[22:54] <WeThePeople> opieng, what do you want to do>
[22:54] <WeThePeople> ?
[22:54] <Jack_Smirnoff> Saiki, I would rename to something simple just to make sure I am not missing a cap or an i that looks like an l
[22:54] <opieng> Programming, engineering software, office work.
[22:55] <drag0nius2> is there some tool to limit wlan internet bandwith keeping wlan - lan part without limit?
[22:55] <WeThePeople> opieng, ever heard of the software center?
[22:55] <Jack_Smirnoff> Saiki, other than that check your permissions
[22:55] <WeThePeople> opieng, html editor "bluefish" css editor "cssed"
[22:56] <cody_> how do i get hamachi?
[22:56] <Saiki> Jack_Smirnoff: it's 4 letters
[22:56] <Saiki> Jack_Smirnoff: and it's 777
[22:57] <krababbel> drag0nius2: wondershaper
[22:57] <WeThePeople> opieng, their are some CAD programs in the SC
[22:57] <Jack_Smirnoff> Saiki, sounds like you covered the basics.. good luck
[22:57] <WeThePeople> opieng, even CNC
[22:57] <Saiki> Jack_Smirnoff: of course, I came because it's NOT the basics
[22:58] <WeThePeople> opieng, open office for office work
[23:00] <opieng> cool, thanks
[23:01] <Jack_Smirnoff> Saiki, if not in your user directory use sudo ./file
[23:01] <Saiki> Jack_Smirnoff: I use root and I cd to the file
[23:03] <Jack_Smirnoff> Saiki, then I am out of answers, I have not hung out here in years.  Just stopped in to look up a tutorial.  Best of luck.
[23:03] <LostMonk> question, if I have a 64 bit machine, is there any good reason to not use 64 bit ubuntu?
[23:03] <Jack_Smirnoff> LostMonk, yes, use 32 bit
[23:03] <LostMonk> that complely doesnt answer the question
[23:04] <Jack_Smirnoff> LostMonk, setup a partition of 32 and another for 64 if you want
[23:04] <Yans> Hello
[23:04] <Saiki> LostMonk: what are you planning to use it for?
[23:04] <Jack_Smirnoff> lost but 32 will give a new user fewer hurdles.
[23:05] <LostMonk> normal everyday stuff
[23:05] <Dr_Willis> LostMonk:  i always use 64bit on all 64bit hardware.. ive seen no reason not to.
[23:05] <Saiki> LostMonk: such as?
[23:05] <LostMonk> email, gimp, office
[23:05] <Saiki> Dr_Willis: I have seen reasons not to..
[23:05] <Saiki> LostMonk: how old is the pc?
[23:05] <Yans> Someone have maybe Integrated videa card, called S3 UniChrome Pro IGP
[23:05] <Yans> ?
[23:05] <LostMonk> its maybe a year old laptop
[23:06] <Saiki> LostMonk: how much ram?
[23:06] <LostMonk> 4gb
[23:06] <Dr_Willis> Yans:  with S3 - they are one of the most linux-hostile video chipsets out there.   There may be some guides on helping with it on askubuntu.com or the forums.
[23:06] <Yans> Via Unichrome
[23:06] <krababbel> LostMonk: use 64bit to use all RAM
[23:06] <Saiki> LostMonk: if you want my honest opinion, use 32bit, and the reason is 64bit is only truely benefitial above 4gb of ram
[23:06] <Yans> On chipset Km800n
[23:07] <LostMonk> aha
[23:07] <krababbel> :)
[23:07] <Saiki> krababbel: 32 bit uses 4gb
[23:07] <krababbel> I thought it was a bit lower
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> Ive noticed faster encoding times (by a few %) on 64bit vs 32bit. but that was on an older box.
[23:07] <Dr_Willis> with exactly 4gb. some may still be takey by various system hardware
[23:07] <Saiki> krababbel: maybe .25, but nothing that you'd miss
[23:08] <Yans> Becuase Ill try to install some dekstop like KDE, Xmce, Gnome, and always is something wrong and i see only a black screen.
[23:08] <Yans> (:
[23:08] <Dr_Willis> Yans:  SiS has very very poor linux support.
[23:08] <Saiki> Yans: XFCE you mean?
[23:09] <Jack_Smirnoff> LostMonk, I have 10 years with ubuntu and a few of those here as on op..  32 is a better choice and you will not notice any real performance issues.  To all those that read the logs and remember me..  take care
[23:09] <Yans> My wrong.
[23:09] <Jack_Smirnoff> adios
[23:09] <LostMonk> ok thanks
[23:09] <Yans> Yes XFCE
[23:12] <Nitsuga> Where's samba's per-user configuration file?
[23:12] <Dr_Willis> Nitsuga:  check /var/local i think
[23:13] <Nitsuga> nothing on /var/local, nor /var/spool/samba, /usr/lib/samba, etc
[23:13] <WeThePeople> lostmonk, if you have any problems just report back here :)
[23:14] <LostMonk> sure thing, thanks
[23:14] <SliTaz> <3 ubuntu eh
[23:14] <SliTaz> we need to see more linux/unix on store shelves
[23:14] <MonkeyDust> Nitsuga  better ask in #samba, i guess
[23:14] <SolarisBoy> i believe you define where it is
[23:14] <SolarisBoy> include = /home/%u/.smb.conf
[23:15] <WeThePeople> slitaz, where shall the profits go???
[23:15] <Nitsuga> SolarisB1y, that would be unimaginably unsecure.
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> SliTaz:  i recall seeing it on shelfs at stores... no one really cared to buy it that way
[23:15] <SolarisBoy> that was an example.
[23:15] <SolarisBoy> you dont have to put it there
[23:15] <Dr_Willis> always lovely when i saw a disrto that was 2 years old on a shelf at best buy...
[23:15] <Nitsuga> It seems you can add/modify them with $ net usershare
[23:16] <Saiki> so I take it no one can tell me why tht error is happening?
[23:16] <beata|lemur> Hiya. I'm trying to backport cups &c to lucid, using pbuilder and mini-dinstall. I'm having a problem with pbuilder not picking up on the local build repository. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1165746/ (pbuilder output) I'm going by the pbuilder howto on the wiki. Suggestions?
[23:16] <SolarisBoy> heh
[23:16] <Nitsuga> Where they are stored remains a mystery.
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> Saiki:  SiS  dosent support Linux very well.. thats why theres isues with that card.
[23:16] <MonkeyDust> Nitsuga  i'm sure the people in #samba can help you solve the mystery
[23:16] <Dr_Willis> !nomodeset | Saiki
[23:17] <Nitsuga> MonkeyDust, okay, I get it...
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> willis@SSDBuntu:/var/lib/samba/usershares$
[23:19] <Saiki> Dr_Willis: wrong person..
[23:19] <Dr_Willis> lim seems an odd place for usershare definitins...
[23:19] <Saiki> Dr_Willis > does anyone know how to fix "file not found" on 12.04 x64 (the file IS there, and is where it should be, but I cannot open it in a command line)
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> Saiki:  whats the exact file and how are you launching it.. and whats the exact error messages
[23:20] <LiDaR> wb me
[23:20] <Dr_Willis> wb me?
[23:21] <LiDaR> Dr_Willis, welcome back
[23:21] <Dr_Willis> welcoming yourself back? ......
[23:21] <Saiki> Dr_Willis: ./startup.sh: 14 ./startup.sh: ./logservice: not found
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> Saiki:  sounds like the script is running a scriot called logservice thats in the same directory.  check the script line 14
[23:22] <Saiki> that's 1 of 4 or 5. some work, some don't and all the files are there and do exist
[23:22] <Dr_Willis> running a script or binary..
[23:22] <Saiki> Dr_Willis: line 13 is a cd to logservice, I already check it
[23:23] <Saiki> checked*
[23:23] <Dr_Willis> so line 13 is 'cd ./logservice'
[23:23] <Saiki> cd /PWServer/logservice/ yes
[23:24] <Saiki> Dr_Willis: this error seems to only happen on x64 though
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> You sure the case of the files are correct?  that directory does exist?
[23:24] <hector> how do I check if my graphics card is running a Nouveau driver or a proprietary one?
[23:24] <LiDaR> hector, :O your still at it
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> hector:  try running the nvidia-settings tool
[23:24] <Saiki> Dr_Willis: 100% positive, I created the directories myself and moved the files as well
[23:24] <Dr_Willis> it ill tell you.
[23:25] <SolarisBoy> hector: lspci -vvv usually shows driver loaded also
[23:25] <Dr_Willis> Saiki:  script is using #!/bin/sh or bash?
[23:25] <hector> LiDaR, yes sir. I had to reinstall my whole system because the nvidia proprietary drivers messed up with the whole computer.
[23:25] <Saiki> sh
[23:25] <Saiki> I tried bash too, same problem
[23:25] <geirha> Saiki: if the line was cd /PWServer/logservice/, the error would not say it failed to find ./logservice
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> Saiki:  once ages ago.. i somehow managed to make some scripts that had extra cr/lfs on the end. I used some text editor that showed the line endings. (fte?)  and happened to notice them after about 3 hrs of scratching my head.. (yes its a long shot)
[23:26] <Saiki> geirha: line 13 is a cd
[23:26] <geirha> Saiki: More likely, it's trying to run a command named logservice, which happens to be a 32-bit elf binary
[23:26] <SolarisBoy> set -x
[23:26] <Dr_Willis> geirha:  my thoughts exactly.
[23:27] <hector> SolarisBoy, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation Device 1213 (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[23:27] <hector> this is the only thing NVIDIA thing there so far
[23:27] <MoTec> Anyone know why I can't scroll up in my bash shell when using PuTTY?  I can scroll up in irssi, but not bash.
[23:27] <geirha> Saiki: And the error says line 14...
[23:27] <SolarisBoy> hector: look at the text under it, there should be a line like 'Driver:'
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> MoTec:  try using screen, or byobu, or tmux with putty
[23:28] <Saiki> geirha: I know
[23:28] <geirha> MoTec: shift+page up/down doesn't scroll?
[23:28] <SolarisBoy> hector: for example mine says 'Kernel driver in use: i915' below the VGA section as im using an intel card
[23:28] <WeThePeople> motec, you have scrolling options in bash
[23:28] <hector> SolarisBoy, nope.. the text under it has something else, do you mind if i put it on pastebin?
[23:28] <MoTec> Dr_Willis: I am using screen.
[23:28] <SolarisBoy> hector: sure go ahead
[23:28] <Dr_Willis> a pastebin of the script would be handy.
[23:29] <MoTec> geirha: And no, shift pgup/down doesn't work in bash.. but it does here in irssi
[23:29] <geirha> MoTec: Ah, so the issue is with screen
[23:29] <MoTec> Hmm, oddly.. it'
[23:29] <Dr_Willis> http://www.samsarin.com/blog/2007/03/11/gnu-screen-working-with-the-scrollback-buffer/
[23:30] <SolarisBoy> CTRL+A + esc by default generally afaik
[23:30] <MoTec> it's pgup pgdn that works here in irssi, so it's irssi doing it..   shift+pgup/pgdn is broken.. I'll ready taht Dr_Willis
[23:30] <SolarisBoy> and up/down to navigate
[23:30] <geirha> MoTec: irssi's scrolling is not related to tty's scrolling
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> screen has more features then i will ever use..
[23:30] <hector> SolarisBoy, http://pastebin.com/GuJzS811
[23:30] <SolarisBoy> you may need to update your screen conf to get scrolling working
[23:30] <Dr_Willis> but i tend to use byobu these days.. and weechat
[23:30] <SolarisBoy> it's probably screen breaking things.
[23:30] <MoTec> geirha: yep, just noticed that.
[23:30] <MoTec> !byobu
[23:31] <SolarisBoy> hector: you have an intel onboard chip
[23:31] <MonkeyDust> !info byobu
[23:31] <SolarisBoy> hector: you will the line here 'Kernel driver in use: i915' thats the driver your using i915
[23:31] <hector> SolarisBoy, i guess i have an onboard from ivy bridge plus a gtx 670m
[23:31] <SolarisBoy> hector: yes you do
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> pg up/down dosent work by default in byou either
[23:32] <MoTec> Ah, definately a screen issue.. it works fine outside of screen.
[23:32] <Dr_Willis> shift pageup/down is scrolling my terminal scroll bars. :)
[23:32] <SolarisBoy> hector: oh i see now you have two
[23:32] <hector> SolarisBoy, sorry for being a faggot but do you have any clue of how to make my gtx 670m work? i`ve been trying all the day and the last time i tried to install a driver manually i messed up with the resolution and i had to reinstall my system. jockey dont show any proprietary driver to download.
[23:32] <SolarisBoy> the nvidia card is using nouveau
[23:33] <hector> i`ve bought this laptop just to play trine 2, and i don`t think it`s gonna run well with the nouveau drivers or using the onboard card
[23:33] <Dr_Willis> hector:  you got one of those dual video card laptops?
[23:33] <nausiicaa> hector , mind your vocabulary and being gay is not an insult
[23:33] <hector> Dr_Willis, i don`t know m8, it have an onboard and a dedicated one
[23:34] <hector> if you call it dual, then yes
[23:34] <hector> nausiicaa, soz
[23:34] <SolarisBoy> it certainly isn't an insult =(
[23:34] <furna> ciao
[23:34] <Dr_Willis> Theres that Optimus chipset thang.  that can cause a lot of issues.. i dont even own one so no ideas on how to get them going. other then to say check the bios and see if you can disable the intel card.
[23:35] <SolarisBoy> yep i agree with Dr_Willis
[23:35] <hector> Dr_Willis, are you sure this uses optimus technology? the site i bought the laptop says nothing about it
[23:35] <brasco^^> hi
[23:36] <MoTec> Ah, much better now.  Scrollback with PuTTY and Screen:  http://mike.stoppelman.com/2007/03/scrollback-with-putty-and-screen.html
[23:37] <hector> SolarisBoy and Dr_Willis, if it really uses optimus there`s a workround for it i guess (google says so) http://bumblebee-project.org/
[23:37] <MoTec> Just have to remember to use pgup/pgdn in irssi and shift-pgup/dn elsewhere.
[23:39] <hector> nvm. giving up lol
[23:39] <hector> thanks anyway
[23:39] <SolarisBoy> disable the intel and install the nvidia drivers
[23:40] <datruth> What app could I use to increase the sound of a mp3 file?
[23:40] <hector> SolarisBoy, i tried to do that earlier with the driver 304.37 which is the latest for gtx 670m
[23:40] <SolarisBoy> datruth: maybe ffmpeg
[23:40] <hector> it ended up messing with my resolution and i was able to use 640x480 only
[23:41] <SolarisBoy> weird @hector
[23:41] <datruth> SolarisBoy: could you give me an example?
[23:41] <hector> also, nvidia-settings kept saying some weird stuff about having to type nvidia something xorg-blabla as root whenever i opened it. i did and it still kept giving me the error
[23:42] <hector> BluesKaj, i`ve failed again trying to get the card to work D:
[23:42] <SolarisBoy> datruth: ffmpeg -i INPUT -ab 192k -vol 400 -y OUTPUT
[23:42] <krabador> how can i set unity to boot in default with a graphical environment?
[23:42] <datruth> hrmm let me give that a go
[23:43] <hector> SolarisBoy, how can i be sure that this card uses nvidia optimus technology?
[23:43] <SolarisBoy> datruth: you may want to do ffmpeg -i first. and see what the volume is now.
[23:43] <SolarisBoy> hector: no clue - i didn't know what optimus technology was until Dr_Willis stated it
[23:43] <Saiki> stupid dcs..
[23:43] <SolarisBoy> but even in that case.. check the vendor site and google is what i would do
[23:43] <SolarisBoy> eg - google if your model card/ laptop is using it.
[23:43] <hector> i did
[23:44] <danete> olaa
[23:44] <SolarisBoy> heh
[23:44] <hector> but unfortunately my model isnt used by many people perhaps
[23:44] <LiDaR> hector, ill trade you laptops
[23:44] <danete> I spanish
[23:44] <hector> LiDaR, hahaha. i should just go back to windows until there`s a fix
[23:44] <SolarisBoy> whats the model of the card/laptop?
[23:44] <hector> i didnt want to.. but..
[23:44] <danete> tus muertos
[23:45] <LiDaR> hector, dont chicken out now ! you have already invested your weekend
[23:45] <SolarisBoy> lol
[23:45] <hector> the laptop is a barebone from brazil, but its similar to a clevo one ill get you the model. the card is a gtx 670m 1,5gb
[23:45] <hector> LiDaR, true lol
[23:45] <BluesKaj> hector, lspci | grep VGA . this might list 2 GPUs . not sure
[23:46] <SolarisBoy> BluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/GuJzS811 his lspci output
[23:46] <hector> yes BluesKaj
[23:46] <SolarisBoy> he has 2 an intel and an nvidia
[23:46] <hector> it list two cards
[23:46] <LiDaR> multiple display adapters works fine most of the time ... just not for hector
[23:46] <SolarisBoy> lol i know right @ LiDaR
[23:46] <hector> LiDaR, might be a curse lol
[23:47] <hector> what kind of person buys a laptop with a good gfx card to play a linux game and then fail to install it properly
[23:47] <hector> LOL
[23:47] <SolarisBoy> hector: silly question - does the noveau driver work?
[23:47] <BluesKaj> hector , have you tried , bumblebee ?
[23:47] <hector> SolarisBoy, i dont`t know m8.. i don`t even know how to check it tbh
[23:47] <hector> BluesKaj, nope but google told me about it
[23:47] <SolarisBoy> uhh it was loaded... plug the cable from your monitor into the other card and see. =)
[23:48] <SolarisBoy> you said the nvidia driver didn't work but not noveau
[23:48] <hector> BluesKaj, the problem is that i dont really know if it uses optimus.. does it? i mean, my card?
[23:48] <Dr_Willis> The Whole Optimus chipset stuff has been a Huge headache...
[23:48] <LiDaR> myunity is great it should be part of default install
[23:48]  * hector rage.. lol
[23:49] <BluesKaj> hector,  optimus is theonly dual gpu configuration I'm aware of . there may be others
[23:49]  * SolarisBoy request permission to return back to active duty optimus prime
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> LiDaR:  theres a lot of stuff that should be part of a default install. ;)
[23:49] <Dr_Willis> BluesKaj:  i think Intel/ATI has a similer thang.
[23:50] <hector> BluesKaj, i can send you the laptop information and model if you want.. same for SolarisBoy
[23:50] <hector> or if you guys knew another method of gathering all the system info, i could do that too
[23:50] <SolarisBoy> dmidecode (sometimes) lspci, lshw, stuff like that
[23:51] <SolarisBoy> if the vendor is nice, they filled out the dmi info and such
[23:51] <BluesKaj> hector , not necessary , only suggestion I can think of is install bumblebee
[23:51] <hector> BluesKaj, do you think i was running in troubles after installing nvidia-current from x-swat due to the lack of bumblebee?
[23:52] <hector> because after installing it all i had was 640x480 available
[23:52] <hector> but yep, bumblebee wasnt installed
[23:52] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[23:53] <Dr_Willis> Bumblebee aims to provide support for NVIDIA Optimus laptops for GNU/Linux distributions. Using Bumblebee, you can use your NVIDIA card for rendering graphics which will be displayed using the Intel card.
[23:54] <hector> i`m afraid of installing nvidia-current from x-swat and then install bumblebee and get the low res only option and will prolly have to reinstall my system again
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> bumble homepage suggests it would work best  the x-swat drivers
[23:54] <hector> what a headache..
[23:54] <hector> lol
[23:54] <Dr_Willis> X-swat drivers should be removeable via the package manager system...
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> Since they are in a PPA.
[23:55] <Dr_Willis> http://bumblebee-project.org/install.html/
[23:55] <infinitux> Okay, so I go to create an audio cd in k3b and it says I don't have permission, so I run k3bsetup and set the permissions, and now I get a message about how it's unable to create cue sheet or something like that. why isn't k3b working?
[23:55] <hector> Dr_Willis, earlier i had a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 and then i had installed the x-swat nvidia-current. after doing that my resolution was stuck at 640x480 and when i tried to open nvidia-settings it gave me an error telling me to use a command called nvidia xorg-settings or something as root, i did but the error was still there.
[23:55] <abimael> Is it harmful to install METASPLOIT on your ubuntu system?
[23:56] <abimael> the same system you use on a daily basis
[23:56] <hector> this is what i am afraid of..
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> hector:   the intel-nvidia card needs bumblebee to work properly from what i am reading...
[23:56] <LiDaR> abimael, not unless you are using it on yourself
[23:56] <infinitux> this message may be a repeat - sorry if it is:
[23:57] <infinitux> Okay, so I go to create an audio cd in k3b and it says I don't have permission, so I run k3bsetup and set the permissions, and now I get a message about how it's unable to create cue sheet or something like that. why isn't k3b working?
[23:57] <abimael> LiDaR: ok thanks, cuz when i run Clamtk, all the metasploit files show up so i was just like stuck for a moment
[23:57] <krababbel> hector: I think that meant that you were not using the binary driver at that time
[23:57] <LiDaR> !patience > infinitux
[23:57] <hector> Dr_Willis, but we are not sure if my nvidia have optimus like we think
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> hector:  only time ive seen intel+nvidia on a laptop  mentioned here in the last year+ is with relateion to Bulblebee
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> and Optimus
[23:58] <hector> krababbel, i guess i should try to install the x-swat nvidia-current and then install the bumblebee right?
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> hector:  the install guides give the exact commands and order.
[23:58] <hector> Dr_Willis, so what do u think about doing what i mentioned above?
[23:58] <hector> hm
[23:58] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee#Installation
[23:58] <krababbel> hector: I don't have that system, but try the howtos
[23:59] <hector> Dr_Willis, gotta try.. time to fail again lol xD