| knome | äsch, need to sleep | 00:09 |
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| knome | see you tomorrow! | 00:09 |
| pleia2 | night :) | 00:10 |
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| pleia2 | ok, pages tagged and mail sent to ubuntu-doc list about access to xubuntu-doc: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2012-August/016793.html | 01:26 |
| micahg | knome: if software center meets our needs, sure | 02:32 |
| Unit193 | I'd say app-install-data, usc, and depends would free up more room. :---D | 02:39 |
| micahg | Unit193: yeah, but that leaves us without the ability to purchase apps | 02:46 |
| Unit193 | That it would. | 02:47 |
| micahg | knome: mr_pouit: synaptic removal done (should give us at least 2.3MB) | 06:44 |
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| knome | micahg, that and apt-get for advanced stuff. also, synaptic is phasing out anyway. | 09:21 |
| smartboyhw | ochosi: ping | 14:13 |
| knome | http://www.typewith.me/p/x-q-beta-uif-prepping | 14:34 |
| ochosi | knome: mind if i add more theme-stuff to this list? | 14:35 |
| knome | ochosi, not at all | 14:35 |
| smartboyhw | ochosi: ping | 14:35 |
| knome | ochosi, especially feel free to describe the specific items | 14:35 |
| knome | ochosi, this is a list of everything that should be done by UIF !! | 14:35 |
| knome | (except the xfce 4.10-item, which would be good to have for beta) | 14:36 |
| knome | ochosi, we should probably review the lightdm-theme workitems | 14:36 |
| ochosi | smartboyhw: hi | 14:36 |
| knome | ochosi, since those aren't official work items, i'll group them there | 14:38 |
| ochosi | k, why not | 14:39 |
| smartboyhw | Sorry, ochosi, a bit wrong of XChat. | 14:39 |
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| pleia2 | ok, writing marketing target audience for real now | 16:46 |
| pleia2 | also, I figured something out | 16:46 |
| knome | ok? | 16:46 |
| pleia2 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#Xubuntu_Prior_to_10.10 | 16:46 |
| knome | yeah | 16:47 |
| knome | that was known | 16:47 |
| knome | but not tagged | 16:47 |
| knome | ;) | 16:47 |
| pleia2 | the images themselves are tagged CategoryXubuntu - but ack, prior to 10.10? | 16:47 |
| pleia2 | should we do something about this? | 16:47 |
| pleia2 | do we still have a burner by default? | 16:48 |
| knome | xfburn | 16:48 |
| knome | but we should delete that section | 16:48 |
| knome | for sure.. | 16:48 |
| pleia2 | should we update it to ues xfburn? | 16:48 |
| knome | we probably need to write on that to the documentation as well | 16:49 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 16:49 |
| knome | maybe create a workitem and update the wiki later, since there's no rush for it for UIF... | 16:49 |
| pleia2 | ok | 16:49 |
| knome | pleia2, http://www.typewith.me/p/x-q-beta-uif-prepping | 16:51 |
| knome | we need to get those done by thu | 16:52 |
| knome | :] | 16:52 |
| * pleia2 nods | 16:55 | |
| pleia2 | I emailed the doc list about who all has rights to upload to xubuntu-doc, but it went off in the wiki direction | 16:55 |
| pleia2 | hopefully someone who knows something will notice and answer my first question ;) | 16:55 |
| knome | yes, i noticed that mail | 16:56 |
| pleia2 | and I've now set up redirection to Installation for all three install docs (english, spanish and german) | 16:56 |
| pleia2 | so all left to do is fix up BurningIsoHowto and the Compiz page | 16:57 |
| knome | sweet | 16:57 |
| pleia2 | oh, and on the website I'll update the /tour screenshots today | 16:57 |
| knome | shiny | 16:57 |
| ochosi | maybe it'd make sense to look at the /tour and ubiquity at the same time? | 16:58 |
| pleia2 | what about ubiquity? | 16:58 |
| ochosi | we need to update the slideshow | 16:58 |
| knome | pleia2, we're going to update the installer slideshow | 16:58 |
| ochosi | with Q screenshots and all | 16:58 |
| pleia2 | ah, right | 16:58 |
| ochosi | but we can also discuss whether we want new/other slides | 16:58 |
| knome | sure | 16:59 |
| pleia2 | I was planning on just using -P screenshots for /tour | 16:59 |
| knome | i started looking at the slideshow today | 16:59 |
| ochosi | but then we're kinda behind with the screenshots in a month... | 16:59 |
| pleia2 | yeah, but I wasn't sure our Q ones would be perfect yet :) | 16:59 |
| knome | we can probably get away with updating after UIF quite easily; everybody always does that | 16:59 |
| knome | (re: slideshow) | 16:59 |
| pleia2 | but now I'm giving myself too much work because I was planning on doing some iso testing along with -Q screenshots too ;) better get to it | 17:00 |
| knome | heh | 17:01 |
| knome | mr_pouit, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1041892 | 17:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1041892 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Update terminalrc" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 17:03 |
| knome | ochosi, do you expect to get a lot of reports of missing icons/do you have time to fix before UIF (re: elem-xfce) | 17:04 |
| knome | rethink https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-q-xubuntu-elementary-xfce after answering | 17:04 |
| ochosi | knome: well i hope not :} | 17:07 |
| knome | ok, in that case, can we "DONE" most of those? | 17:07 |
| knome | at least "report" | 17:07 |
| knome | and what about "implement" | 17:07 |
| knome | is that the same as bug #1006416 | 17:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1006416 in xubuntu-artwork (Ubuntu) "Add missing icons to elementary-xfce" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1006416 | 17:07 |
| knome | schuss | 17:22 |
| ochosi | yeah | 17:23 |
| ochosi | that's practically the same | 17:23 |
| knome | ok | 17:24 |
| knome | äsch, tb in albatross fails | 17:26 |
| knome | :] | 17:26 |
| knome | or maybe it's some weird thing here | 17:27 |
| knome | hmm | 17:27 |
| knome | ochosi, see your inbox | 17:27 |
| ochosi | knome: do you have an in-action screenshot as well? | 17:30 |
| knome | nope, i didn't test it | 17:30 |
| * knome hides | 17:30 | |
| ochosi | sry, i'm busy with fixing bluebird right now | 17:31 |
| knome | np, try it when you can | 17:32 |
| ochosi | send me a screenshot when you can :} | 17:32 |
| knome | i don't personally use those launcher panels, so i don't have a strong opinion | 17:32 |
| ochosi | me neither | 17:32 |
| knome | wha's the def height? | 17:32 |
| ochosi | 48 i think | 17:33 |
| ochosi | odd, it seems it's 46 | 17:33 |
| ochosi | in my vm | 17:33 |
| ochosi | we should double-check with lionel | 17:33 |
| knome | http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/quantal_blueprints/launcherpanel.png | 17:34 |
| knome | i don't know why the img repeats oddly | 17:34 |
| ochosi | yeah, just wanted to point that out | 17:35 |
| knome | (look at "notes" | 17:35 |
| knome | it's the exact same image with mods | 17:35 |
| ochosi | doesn't look bad | 17:35 |
| ochosi | but i think now the launchers need more padding | 17:35 |
| knome | me too | 17:35 |
| ochosi | otherwise they look crammed onto it too much | 17:35 |
| knome | are we proposing this change to be a default? | 17:36 |
| ochosi | the panel-bg? | 17:36 |
| knome | y | 17:36 |
| ochosi | originally the idea was to have a bg so that the launcherpanel would also work without compositing | 17:36 |
| knome | mm-hmm | 17:36 |
| ochosi | (that was when astraljava was still exploring switching compositing on/off by default) | 17:36 |
| ochosi | but i think it makes sense to use the bg image anyway | 17:36 |
| knome | but if that isn't enabled by default, how can we make sure that image is proposed by default :] | 17:36 |
| knome | (the answer is: probably no way) | 17:37 |
| knome | but i don't want to add padding to other panels | 17:38 |
| ochosi | ? | 17:38 |
| knome | if we add padding for that panel, doesn't it mean the other panel gets padding too | 17:38 |
| knome | 20:35 ochosi: but i think now the launchers need more padding | 17:38 |
| knome | or do you mean just launchers? | 17:38 |
| knome | i'm not sure if i want that either... | 17:38 |
| knome | :) | 17:38 |
| ochosi | just launchers ofc | 17:38 |
| knome | bbl | 17:42 |
| ochosi | knome: it would help to reduce the top-border of the bg-image for the launcher-panel | 17:54 |
| pleia2 | oh dear, my touchpad isn't working in this 12.10 daily | 18:22 |
| Sysi | at all? check if synaptics isn't loaded or it's just disabled | 18:25 |
| pleia2 | at all, plugged in a usb mouse and that isn't working either (usually does) | 18:26 |
| pleia2 | no modules including "syn" loaded | 18:27 |
| pleia2 | xinput list isn't showing it | 18:28 |
| ochosi | odd | 18:40 |
| ochosi | i have a mouse-problem with my mouse in vbox | 18:40 |
| ochosi | no scrollwheel | 18:40 |
| pleia2 | ochosi: should there still be color mismatch issues in menus in the daily builds? | 18:41 |
| ochosi | pleia2: what theme? | 18:42 |
| pleia2 | default | 18:42 |
| ochosi | i'm afraid you'd have to test the theme/s from git to be able to tell | 18:42 |
| pleia2 | ah ok | 18:42 |
| ochosi | i'm using an updated quantal box | 18:42 |
| ochosi | no color-mismatch here | 18:42 |
| pleia2 | was just wondering if it had been released to the images | 18:42 |
| ochosi | i think not yet | 18:44 |
| knome | ochosi, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/quantal_blueprints/greybird-tb-compose.png | 18:44 |
| knome | ochosi, is that expected? the main tb window has black icons | 18:44 |
| ochosi | i'm not touching tb again | 18:44 |
| ochosi | this is not related to our theme at all | 18:44 |
| knome | ochosi, see http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/quantal_blueprints/greybird-tb-main.png | 18:45 |
| ochosi | yeah, we had icon-issues with tb before | 18:45 |
| ochosi | i changed nothing that is relevant in the gtk theme | 18:45 |
| ochosi | so something must be wrong with tb | 18:45 |
| ochosi | (again) | 18:45 |
| knome | :| | 18:46 |
| SkippersBoss | Guys: Why is xfburn - in 12.10 - listed in both Accesoires and Multimedia ?? | 18:47 |
| knome | SkippersBoss, because it is added to both categories | 18:49 |
| ochosi | ok, i think i only have to fix the resize-grip and the radio/checkbuttons in bluebird, then it's usable again in 12.10 | 18:49 |
| knome | good | 18:50 |
| knome | our prepping list looks quite good actually, i have to say | 18:50 |
| knome | much better than i thought it would look today | 18:50 |
| knome | woot, our completion bar is green! | 18:51 |
| pleia2 | so, synaptics module won't load, but in ubuntu 12.04 it's not loaded either and works fine, but it shows up in xinput too | 18:53 |
| pleia2 | (the module doesn't exist in either place) | 18:54 |
| pleia2 | xinput in 12.04 does show it as SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad | 18:54 |
| Sysi | evdev might be used instead of synaptics | 18:55 |
| knome | micahg, http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/quantal_blueprints/greybird-tb-compose.png and http://temp.knome.fi/xubuntu/quantal_blueprints/greybird-tb-main.png - any idea why the icons aren't black on both TB windows? | 18:55 |
| Sysi | xorg and udev can also be broken | 18:55 |
| knome | pleia2, shiny wiki edit | 18:56 |
| pleia2 | well, /lib/modules is broken :\ after booting up this new install I have /lib/modules/3.5.0-1 but my kernel is -6 | 18:57 |
| pleia2 | so modprobe and everything complains | 18:57 |
| ochosi | meh, unico-engine is becoming more and more useless :( | 18:57 |
| pleia2 | Sysi: I don't have synaptics or evdev modules (is evdev a module?) | 18:58 |
| Sysi | pleia2: you could check what 12.04 uses with lspci -k | 18:59 |
| pleia2 | I looked through that but I couldn't find anything looking obviously like a touchpad | 19:03 |
| pleia2 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1168595/ | 19:04 |
| pleia2 | clearly it just works with magic | 19:04 |
| pleia2 | hm, touchpad works ok in the 12.10 livecd | 19:12 |
| pleia2 | from 8/22 though, my installed version is from 8/26 | 19:13 |
| knome | pleia2, around? | 20:04 |
| pleia2 | mhmm | 20:05 |
| knome | good! | 20:05 |
| pleia2 | yay, last thing on marketing blueprint is the pamphlet/handout items \o/ | 20:22 |
| knome | pleia2, what's the plan with docs anyway? | 20:32 |
| pleia2 | well hopefully someone on the ubuntu-doc list will reply | 20:35 |
| pleia2 | so we can actually get our changes into the package | 20:35 |
| knome | when have you planned the converting to docbook? | 20:35 |
| pleia2 | what's all this "you" stuff :) | 20:35 |
| pleia2 | I am swamped with other things :( | 20:35 |
| knome | i thought you had an idea since you told stuff needs to be ready in a week ;) | 20:35 |
| knome | if you haven't got one, np | 20:36 |
| pleia2 | lol | 20:36 |
| pleia2 | we need a for real docs lead | 20:36 |
| knome | yes. | 20:36 |
| knome | i'm worried about the docs look | 20:37 |
| knome | if we get that in before UIF... wonderful | 20:37 |
| knome | then we have again time until sep 20 for magic | 20:37 |
| pleia2 | so, the alt image is doing installs that end up with the 3.0.5-1 kernel | 20:37 |
| pleia2 | desktop gets you 3.0.5-11 | 20:37 |
| pleia2 | and lightdm theme is different | 20:38 |
| knome | hmm.. | 20:38 |
| knome | could this have something to do with ubuntu dropping alt? | 20:38 |
| pleia2 | not a clue | 20:38 |
| knome | me neither | 20:38 |
| pleia2 | I'll try to find time to do this on some VMs later this week | 20:39 |
| knome | ok, good | 20:39 |
| ochosi | wow, that sounds odd | 20:39 |
| ochosi | why would the kernel be different | 20:39 |
| knome | wait... | 20:39 |
| knome | there was some discussion about newer kernel breaking proprietary nvidia drivers | 20:39 |
| knome | that's maybe why you are held back? | 20:39 |
| knome | or sth | 20:40 |
| pleia2 | when I boot up after alt, it also tells me I need like 500 updates | 20:40 |
| knome | haha | 20:40 |
| pleia2 | so I am suspecting something is quite wrong | 20:40 |
| knome | probably yes | 20:40 |
| knome | from what date is the alt? :P | 20:40 |
| pleia2 | today | 20:40 |
| knome | no, but really? :P | 20:40 |
| pleia2 | desktop is from 4 days ago (last time it created one) | 20:40 |
| knome | hmm | 20:40 |
| ochosi | well yeah, definitely doesn't sound like a problem that's on our side | 20:41 |
| pleia2 | oh | 20:41 |
| pleia2 | ok yeah, don't listen to me | 20:41 |
| knome | haha | 20:41 |
| pleia2 | I burned the old i386 image instead of the 64 \o/ | 20:41 |
| pleia2 | sorry :) | 20:41 |
| knome | why would we listen our marketing lead? | 20:41 |
| pleia2 | clearly I just have fluff-for-brains | 20:42 |
| pleia2 | ok, let's do this again, but with the right iso :) | 20:42 |
| knome | don't say typewith.me is dying again | 20:43 |
| knome | we really need somebody from the docs team to help us | 20:48 |
| knome | do we know anybody from the team that's bribable? | 20:49 |
| knome | hmm, i had lunch at UDS-J with one of the doc committers | 20:50 |
| knome | :P | 20:50 |
| ochosi | i met j1mc in vienna a while ago, but i think we lost him to gnome | 20:52 |
| knome | probably | 20:52 |
| knome | he might be able to help us though, if somebody got a hold of him | 20:53 |
| knome | i have his mobile #, but i don't think that's the right way to approach | 20:53 |
| ochosi | heh | 20:55 |
| ochosi | maybe not | 20:55 |
| ochosi | i'm "friends" with him on g+ | 20:55 |
| ochosi | i can get in touch with him | 20:56 |
| ochosi | but i need a specific question/reason | 20:56 |
| knome | like "can you mentor us in ubuntu docs related questions?" | 20:56 |
| ochosi | ok, will try that | 21:00 |
| knome | ok, thanks | 21:00 |
| ochosi | np | 21:01 |
| ochosi | ok, contacted him | 21:13 |
| knome | good | 21:14 |
| pleia2 | bug 1041955 was pretty amusing | 21:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1041955 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Thunar opens for all disks if manually partitioning" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1041955 | 21:22 |
| * pleia2 screen-full-of-thunar | 21:22 | |
| knome | o.O | 21:22 |
| ochosi | lol | 21:22 |
| pleia2 | and the alt is failing at the moment :( dependency issues | 21:23 |
| knome | meh | 21:27 |
| pleia2 | made bug 1041959 for it | 21:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1041959 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu 12.10 Alternate Installer fails with indicator-application-gk2 dependencies" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1041959 | 21:36 |
| pleia2 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#Xubuntu \o/ | 21:48 |
| knome | heh | 21:48 |
| ochosi | congrats pleia2 | 21:48 |
| ochosi | seems the screeners are a bit older :) | 21:49 |
| pleia2 | those are 12.04, should be fine | 21:50 |
| knome | weird xfwm then. | 21:50 |
| ochosi | ah right :) | 21:50 |
| ochosi | yup | 21:50 |
| pleia2 | oh right, I should have switched to the default theme | 21:50 |
| ochosi | and funny font :) | 21:50 |
| knome | yeah... :D | 21:50 |
| pleia2 | well the instructions are fixed anyway ;) I'll get proper screenshots | 21:51 |
| knome | meh, the pad is playing games on me | 21:51 |
| ochosi | pleia2: hehe, no worries ;) | 21:51 |
| knome | pleia2, awwh, now you have to burn another CD! | 21:51 |
| * knome giggles and hides | 21:51 | |
| pleia2 | don't actually have to burn it! | 21:51 |
| knome | gotcha | 21:51 |
| knome | oh great pad | 21:52 |
| knome | let me work! | 21:52 |
| pleia2 | it keeps disconnecting me, I gave up | 21:52 |
| knome | fsst | 21:53 |
| knome | http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-flavor-xubuntu.html | 21:54 |
| knome | look at that | 21:54 |
| knome | the green bar touches the mainline | 21:54 |
| ochosi | impossible! :p | 21:54 |
| knome | now if i only got the pad working, i could mark one more thing as DONE | 21:55 |
| knome | and oh so little "blocked" stuff | 21:56 |
| ochosi | heh | 21:56 |
| knome | COME OOOON | 22:00 |
| pleia2 | ok, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto#Xubuntu is better now | 22:07 |
| knome | good | 22:07 |
| knome | hmm | 22:07 |
| knome | i wrote "good" somewhere and pressed enter | 22:07 |
| knome | :P | 22:07 |
| pleia2 | haha | 22:07 |
| * pleia2 works on /tour screenshots | 22:07 | |
| ochosi | ok, i think that bluebird should be usable now | 22:07 |
| ochosi | bugs banished for now | 22:08 |
| ochosi | time to fix the lightdm-theming | 22:08 |
| knome | gooood | 22:10 |
| knome | pleia2, i reviewed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Development/ReleaseProcess | 22:12 |
| pleia2 | ochosi: should these look this way? http://princessleia.com/temp/apps_0-q.png | 22:16 |
| pleia2 | additional sheets in gnumeric, much black in abiword | 22:16 |
| knome | gnumeric probably yes, abiword not | 22:16 |
| ochosi | abiword is a known issue upstream | 22:16 |
| knome | that's a gtk3 bug | 22:16 |
| knome | oh, abiword bug | 22:16 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit knows about it | 22:16 |
| * knome ducks under the table | 22:16 | |
| ochosi | i submitted a bugreport one release ago upstream | 22:16 |
| pleia2 | I suppose this is the trouble with taking screenshots from -q right now :) | 22:16 |
| knome | pleia2, leave abiword out :)) | 22:17 |
| ochosi | they managed fixing it upstream last week (!) | 22:17 |
| knome | ochosi, woot? | 22:17 |
| ochosi | mr_pouit is looking into importing the fix for us | 22:17 |
| ochosi | that's all i can say for now | 22:17 |
| ochosi | gnumeric uses special widgets, it's really a bitch with themes... | 22:17 |
| ochosi | special widgets == custom widgets | 22:17 |
| knome | ochosi, watch the language or... | 22:18 |
| knome | ;) | 22:18 |
| pleia2 | maybe I'll just take them from precise for now | 22:18 |
| knome | YAY PAD IS WORKING | 22:19 |
| ochosi | ok, i think lightdm theming is starting to wor | 22:31 |
| ochosi | k | 22:31 |
| knome | pleia2, http://typewith.me/p/x-devel-rewrite | 22:38 |
| knome | pleia2, feel free to review and fix errors | 22:38 |
| knome | ochosi too, if you have time | 22:38 |
| ochosi | knome: sry, busy with this: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-08272012-124230am.php | 22:42 |
| knome | heh :) | 22:42 |
| knome | np | 22:43 |
| knome | pleia2, this is the last page of the website review! | 22:43 |
| knome | ochosi, it already looks quite nice :) | 22:43 |
| knome | ochosi, not optimal, but better than most | 22:43 |
| ochosi | this is just the beginning | 22:45 |
| knome | yeah, i know | 22:45 |
| knome | i was just trying to make you feel needed | 22:45 |
| knome | :) | 22:45 |
| pleia2 | ok, http://xubuntu.org/tour/ is done :) | 22:45 |
| knome | \o/ | 22:45 |
| * knome feels like there is nothing this team can't achieve | 22:46 | |
| knome | [lyz] Cleanup and review community wiki: INPROGRESS | 22:46 |
| knome | isn't that DONE? | 22:46 |
| ochosi | heh | 22:46 |
| knome | :) | 22:46 |
| knome | except maybe one thing | 22:47 |
| knome | START TO WORK ON TIME | 22:47 |
| knome | :] | 22:47 |
| pleia2 | knome: once I test and fix the compiz instructions | 22:47 |
| knome | oki | 22:47 |
| pleia2 | I need to get some food right now, I r teh hungry | 22:47 |
| knome | you are meh hungry | 22:47 |
| knome | at least from the knome POV | 22:47 |
| knome | :) | 22:47 |
| knome | i'll stay up for a bit longer | 22:48 |
| knome | how long will you stuff food into your mouth? | 22:48 |
| pleia2 | like 20 minutes :P | 22:49 |
| knome | hehe | 22:49 |
| knome | fair enough | 22:49 |
| * knome will do something for like 20 | 22:50 | |
| knome | brb | 22:50 |
| ochosi | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-08272012-125227am.php | 22:52 |
| ochosi | almost done ^ | 22:52 |
| knome | :) | 22:55 |
| knome | shiny | 22:55 |
| ochosi | i think i'll make the login-button look special somehow | 22:56 |
| knome | mm | 22:58 |
| drc | maybe make the text lighter (as the Session/English buttons are)? | 22:59 |
| ochosi | drc: yeah, that's just a bug | 23:00 |
| drc | Sorry | 23:01 |
| ochosi | np :) | 23:01 |
| ochosi | anyway, i hope the stupid "cancel" button can go away | 23:01 |
| ochosi | it's utterly useless | 23:01 |
| drc | well, if the cancel button goes away, then the login button doesn't need to standout, does it? | 23:03 |
| knome | ochosi, what about making it blue? | 23:03 |
| knome | ochosi, like you did with the default buttons | 23:04 |
| ochosi | yeah, was also considering green tbh | 23:04 |
| knome | GREEN? | 23:04 |
| knome | :) | 23:04 |
| ochosi | heh | 23:04 |
| ochosi | yeh | 23:04 |
| ochosi | mostly for fun :) | 23:04 |
| knome | hah | 23:05 |
| ochosi | but also because i'm curious | 23:05 |
| ochosi | anyway, think i'll push what i have pretty soon | 23:06 |
| knome | :) | 23:06 |
| pleia2 | knome: are we merging QA and Development mages? | 23:09 |
| pleia2 | pages | 23:09 |
| pleia2 | oh, it's just fixing bugs in this pad | 23:09 |
| knome | yup | 23:10 |
| knome | pleia2, nahhhhh | 23:13 |
| knome | pleia2, that's been said at http://xubuntu.org/contribute/ | 23:13 |
| pleia2 | the join devel list one? | 23:14 |
| knome | yeah | 23:14 |
| pleia2 | ok | 23:15 |
| knome | trying to keep that as generic as possible, and the subpages as specific as possible to not duplicate information | 23:15 |
| ochosi | seems like transparency isn't working here: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-08272012-011703am.php | 23:17 |
| ochosi | otherwise we could make a nice rounded box | 23:17 |
| knome | ochosi, heh. funky. :) | 23:17 |
| pleia2 | ok, I think this looks good | 23:17 |
| knome | great | 23:17 |
| knome | i'll update the website then! | 23:17 |
| pleia2 | I _some links_ | 23:17 |
| knome | i noticed, will take care of those | 23:18 |
| pleia2 | thanks | 23:18 |
| pleia2 | what they should link to are on the current /development | 23:18 |
| knome | yeah | 23:18 |
| pleia2 | SkippersBoss: thanks for working on the docs today! | 23:19 |
| SkippersBoss | no need to thank me | 23:20 |
| SkippersBoss | doing it in between other stuff | 23:20 |
| pleia2 | :) | 23:21 |
| SkippersBoss | sorry have to say gnite to some one | 23:22 |
| knome | pleia2, \o/ http://xubuntu.org/contribute/development/ | 23:22 |
| pleia2 | :D | 23:22 |
| pleia2 | time for me to update the blueprint? :D | 23:23 |
| knome | if you want to do that | 23:23 |
| pleia2 | yeah yeah I want to do it | 23:23 |
| knome | hehe | 23:23 |
| knome | go ahead | 23:23 |
| pleia2 | \o/ | 23:23 |
| knome | i can't desribe how much and how long this has bugged me | 23:23 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 23:24 |
| knome | now if we could get micahg and/or mr_pouit look at it... | 23:24 |
| SkippersBoss | some ones very happy or m i misreading something here | 23:25 |
| knome | SkippersBoss, we are happy. the website content review is finally done | 23:26 |
| knome | after what, nearly a year? more? | 23:26 |
| knome | pleia2, bug #967878 - ideas? :) | 23:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 967878 in Xubuntu Website "Xubuntu website has no "Contact us" -page" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/967878 | 23:27 |
| ochosi | i still have to implement the hover styles, but i think other than that we're good to go on lightdm | 23:31 |
| knome | shiny :) | 23:33 |
| pleia2 | knome: I am not sure on that | 23:34 |
| knome | me neither | 23:34 |
| knome | fortunately there's no deadline on that! :) | 23:34 |
| pleia2 | :) | 23:34 |
| pleia2 | I'll think about it | 23:34 |
| ochosi | seems like the lightdm-gtk-greeter doesn't support transparency in its current state... | 23:34 |
| ochosi | otherwise a lot more things would be possible | 23:34 |
| knome | ochosi, i see. though the sharp corners aren't too ugly either | 23:35 |
| ochosi | yeah true | 23:35 |
| ochosi | still, it'd be nice to use some shadows and transparency | 23:36 |
| ochosi | anyway, will ask mr_pouit about that after he tests the theming | 23:36 |
| knome | sure. | 23:36 |
| ochosi | also not 100% sure why the hover-states are not getting applied | 23:37 |
| knome | pleia2, apparently, they want us to stop using "derivative" in favor of "flavor" | 23:38 |
| knome | i fixed those on our website | 23:39 |
| pleia2 | yeah, flavor is the appropriate term | 23:39 |
| pleia2 | thanks | 23:39 |
| knome | np | 23:39 |
| knome | there was fortunately only two | 23:39 |
| pleia2 | :) | 23:39 |
| knome | is there a non-breaking-dash? | 23:40 |
| ochosi | hehe: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-08272012-014117am.php | 23:41 |
| knome | great! ‑ | 23:41 |
| knome | ouch! | 23:41 |
| knome | wait | 23:42 |
| knome | there's one "Derivatives" on our footer | 23:42 |
| ochosi | knome: this would be the style we use everywhere else: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-08272012-014248am.php | 23:43 |
| ochosi | knome: doesn't work too well imo | 23:43 |
| knome | agreed | 23:43 |
| knome | make it darker | 23:43 |
| ochosi | exactly | 23:43 |
| knome | like something 50% between that and the bg | 23:43 |
| ochosi | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-08272012-014709am.php | 23:47 |
| knome | looks good to me | 23:47 |
| ochosi | yeah, i think it's pretty ok | 23:47 |
| knome | at least for a one-night-fix | 23:47 |
| ochosi | knome: why did you postpone uploading the lightdm changes? | 23:52 |
| knome | because isn't that simply upgrading shimmer-themes? | 23:52 |
| knome | or am i mistaken | 23:53 |
| knome | s/upgrading/updating/ | 23:53 |
| ochosi | i guess it is | 23:53 |
| knome | mhm | 23:53 |
| knome | added that to the prep pad | 23:54 |
| ochosi | ok, just one more thing to fix, then i'm done for now | 23:54 |
| knome | hehe, yeah | 23:55 |
| ochosi | stupid menubar at the top doesn't behave as i want | 23:55 |
| knome | i was thinking the same.... | 23:55 |
| knome | well, not "one more", but more like "it's quite likely it for today" | 23:55 |
| knome | :D | 23:55 |
| ochosi | but i'm afraid it might not even be possible to fix that one | 23:55 |
| ochosi | i would love to have the two menuitems change their bg-color on mouse-over | 23:56 |
| ochosi | like the indicators | 23:56 |
| ochosi | in our panel | 23:56 |
| knome | mmh | 23:56 |
| ochosi | but i think i can only change the clicked-state | 23:56 |
| knome | :) | 23:56 |
| knome | that's not too bad | 23:56 |
| ochosi | yeah, could be worse :) | 23:56 |
| knome | they are relatively rarely used | 23:56 |
| ochosi | at least the other items are working as expected now | 23:56 |
| knome | at least here, and anywhere i know xubuntu being used :P | 23:56 |
| ochosi | even the hover states | 23:56 |
| knome | :) | 23:56 |
| ochosi | i still think the green login-button would've looked funky :) | 23:57 |
| knome | well not the #0f0 green at least! | 23:57 |
| ochosi | btw, i'm considering giving the loginbutton more xpadding | 23:57 |
| ochosi | what do you think? | 23:57 |
| knome | worksforme | 23:57 |
| ochosi | since it's the most important button there... | 23:57 |
| knome | yeah | 23:57 |
| * knome is waiting for s.u.c to update one more time ;) | 23:58 | |
| knome | my story stops here - let's be clear... | 23:59 |
| knome | :) | 23:59 |
| knome | np: Faithless / Mass Destruction (Single mix) | 23:59 |
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