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Starnno one?00:06
melodie_yes00:07
Starnyes to what?00:07
melodie_yes I am here00:07
melodie_I read you post00:07
melodie_you want to autologin right ?00:07
Starnyes.. and after that i am going to setup cronjob to automatically start two programs (but i believe i can do that00:08
melodie_Starn, and I suppose it is a different question ?00:09
melodie_Starn, not easy to see what you conf file looks like. can you paste it's content to http://pastebin.com and bring the link here ?00:10
Starnyes00:16
Starnsorry i had to answer my door.. and i know how to do cronjobs so there shouldn't be any questions in that area.. just this one. taking screen shot of terminal.00:16
Starnwhat's screenshot key "prtscn" isn't working.  than again i am remoted in atm..00:17
Starnhttp://pastebin.com/2igF34Rs    sorry you said pastbin i'm running mentally slow today00:19
melodie_Starn, try it this way : http://pastebin.com/zqv39R1u00:38
melodie_Starn, I didn't see at once you had answered00:38
Starnit's ok.. also the 5 is 5 seconds correct?00:39
melodie_Starn, once done restart lightdm:00:39
melodie_sudo service lightdm restart00:39
melodie_Starn, i think so, at least you can try it as "5" for 5 seconds00:40
Starnalright was checking 'cause this machine has no monitor and i'm remoted into it.. and don't have money for one and don't want to disconnect from this.. so before i reboot computer to try i am making my remote software auto start.00:41
Starnfile saved restarting lightdm00:42
melodie_ok00:42
melodie_I have looked at the doc in the french ubuntu-fr.org, this is where I found the information. I had to compare your file with mine though to get it all00:43
Starnoh alright..  oh o.. be right back gotta plug this monitor in to it and turn remote service back on... :\00:44
melodie_ok00:44
Starnmelodie_ i got it all working now :) thanks!! it automatically logs in and my remote software starts automatically as well. the actual server stuff i have doesn't start automatically, but i'm not to worried about that for only time machine is going off is by me remotely rebooting it or power going off and  i'm almost always home. i'm only aiming for 80-90% uptime not a 99% uptime.01:10
melodie_good !01:11
melodie_Starn, I am happy to know that it works.01:12
Starnmelodie_: the autologin part was my biggest issue haha. now everything functions the way i want.. you're the best! in away this computer is linked to the server feels kinda like running a VM but with dedicated hardware and is oddly able to view youtube without display lag.. sweet.01:12
melodie_the doc was ok too. :D01:13
melodie_the wiki fr for ubuntu is quite good and complete01:13
Starni looked at the english docs and did as they said but clearly that didn't work. thanks for being able to read french :)01:14
melodie_Starn, if you want to join one day, we have built a forum with people talking english and some talking french. You might like it, it's the Linux Village. You can visit it here : http://www.linuxvillage.net01:14
melodie_for now I was struggling with xubuntu and ubuntu-builder, wanted to make a slightly different version of xubuntu, but no success for now01:16
melodie_here is what I wanted to get :01:16
melodie_http://meets.free.fr/debian/images/xubuntu-brown.png01:16
melodie_but here is what I really got after remixing:01:16
melodie_http://meets.free.fr/debian/images/xubuntu-spin.png01:17
melodie_really not a success. :s01:17
melodie_I'll try again with another tool.01:17
Starnthat looks more advanced than i am. i am more of a network and remote admin stuff kinda guy.01:17
melodie_great, I am not keen in network and remote admin01:18
melodie_Starn, if you decide to visit the linux village forum and want to join some day you are welcome01:19
Starnbut i wouldn't mind my desktop looking like what you're trying to get. looks like how i wanted ubuntu 12.04 or what even the release version number is.. i didn't want unity.01:19
melodie_:)01:19
Starnmelodie_ i shall actually probably sign up today01:19
melodie_you can take the configuration files and use them if you want; they are here:01:19
melodie_http://meets.free.fr/debian/Xubuntu-Brown.tar.xz01:19
melodie_Starn, you sign up whenever you wish, the forum is opened01:20
Starnthanks. also i'm in #xubuntu-offtopic . if you'd like to talk in there seeing how we're kinda going off topic in here.01:20
melodie_I'll try again with another tool within a few days. I know of at least 2 other ones01:20
melodie_ok Starn01:20
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Stella4449Wondering if there's a bootable xubuntu version to use to install from a flash drive onto my HP Mini. Yes?02:09
Starnthere is a way to install from flash it's rather easy02:10
Stella4449Can you tell me how?02:11
Starnhttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows  i know that is ubuntu's site but you do exact same thing with Xubuntu.. just use the universal usb installer. if you have Xubuntu ISO already than good if not it can download it for you.02:12
Starnwell this is if you're already on windows.. atm.02:13
Stella4449Well, I'm using my Windows laptop now but the Mini has a Mac OS and I don't have admin privilege.02:13
Stella4449I'm downloading xubuntu now onto my laptop02:14
Starnuse windows to download and do needed things for the flash drive than boot into usb on your mini?02:14
Starni don't know much about mac.02:14
Stella4449Me neither.02:14
Starnhttp://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx02:14
Starnthat's to make the usb drive on mac.. let me find how to install02:15
Starnnever mind i guess you just interset usb boot into usb and do as you would with PC?02:15
Stella4449I'll make it on the pc laptop, then boot it with the Mini. Mac will be wiped out.02:15
Starnare you sure you want to wipe out mac?02:16
Stella4449That first link you gave me will work just fine. Thanks a bunch.  Yes. I have no way to get admin permissions. Tried all kinds of hacks. Bought the Mini for $15 at a garage sale.02:16
StarnStella4449 oh nice. well i'm glade i was helpful i hope. and which mac mini is it??02:17
Stella4449Mini 100002:17
Stella4449Older one.02:17
Stella4449Thanks again!02:18
Starnyou're welcome. and what is the specs?? 'cause i am seeing this thing run for more than my PC cost still02:18
Stella4449I know they're expensive. Hold a sec, I'll let you know02:20
Stella4449Well, I'll have to figure out how to check the specs on the notebook itself. On Amazon it says there's a whole bunch of RAM and hard drive space and it costs about $20002:23
Stella4449My daughter has one running XP and I think she paid at least that for it.02:23
Starnwow they was $599 that's sad. no wonder apple is now considered richest company they over price everything haha anyways got way offtopic..  but i must say good find. can you link me to the specs?02:23
Stella4449So, $15 for the notebook, had to order power cord $20-$25 and battery $30.  great find!02:24
Stella4449Yeah, hold on02:24
Stella4449http://www.amazon.com/HP-Notebook-Processor-Brightview-Infinity/dp/B001JTA59C02:24
Starnoh it's the hp mini. my ex had a netbook with those specs. it's actually decent for a netbook considering it ran WoW at 15fps.02:25
Stella4449That's cool.02:26
Starnvery good find sir. wish you luck at getting xubuntu on there if you run into any issues be sure to come back here02:26
Stella4449I sure will. (But I'm a ma'am ;-) )02:26
Starnohh! sorry!02:26
Stella4449S'okay. I know who I am.   You've really helped a lot.. Thanks again.02:27
Starnguess that makes sense (seeing as name is stella)02:27
Stella4449:-)02:27
Stella4449Back in the early IRC days I used to get the Marlon Brando Stellllaaaaa!!!! all the time.02:28
Stella4449I'll let you know how it comes out.02:28
bob__hello03:16
bob__it's dead in here03:17
holsteinbob__: its not a social channel.. check out the topic and try the OT channel or one of the more OT ubuntu channels for chat03:18
bob__hehehe03:19
xubuntu031After burning it to a CD, I tried booting from the CD and got the message:  This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: pae  Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU.08:21
aeternum_solusoh wow. haven't seen a CPU _without_ pae in a long time!08:23
Sysixubuntu031: sounds like main-ubuntu, xubuntu doesn't have pae by default08:23
Sysi12.10 will have it and there isn't really way out of it, except upgrading from 12.0408:24
Sysi12.04 is LTS so it's good for a while too08:25
shpngldhope all of u r doin well...xub crew09:15
shpngldcan some1 give me advice how to easily find any hardware problems 11.04-_11.10)09:16
shpngldex.: my wlan is workin...but in very very low performance09:17
shpngldnever had so slow Inet09:17
aeternum_solusthat's likely not from xubuntu, that's probably from your environment09:17
shpngld(already restarted the router..few times)09:17
aeternum_solushow many walls between your client and the WAP?09:18
shpngld2 and a half09:18
shpngldhes downstairs09:18
aeternum_soluswhat are you using? b, g or n?09:18
shpngldI dont know...Broadcom wlan  431809:19
shpngldold one w/ tricky install09:19
aeternum_solusoh. that's probably where your problem lies09:19
shpngldpci09:19
aeternum_solusyou're probably on b09:19
shpnglda day b4 all was ok..good speeds (well normal..)09:20
shpngldnow im upgradin online09:20
shpngldand.....60k/s09:20
aeternum_solusmight not be xubuntu that's slow.. it could be the server from which you are downloading09:20
* shpngld facepalmin since 14:00 pm yesterday09:20
shpngldUpdate manager09:20
aeternum_solusping 8.8.8.8 and see if you get any packet loss and what the latency is like09:21
Sysibroadcom drivers are prettybad09:21
shpngldaeternum_solus,  I will do it now09:21
SysiI'd try 12.04 and possibly proprietary driver09:21
Sysi!broadcom09:21
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx09:21
shpngldaeternum_solus,  well...ping it just now09:22
shpngldtime is above 200ms09:23
shpngld..to 1500ms09:23
aeternum_solusnow ping your gateway09:23
aeternum_solusand get the same info09:23
shpngldhow can i do it09:23
aeternum_solusyou don't know your gateway?09:23
* shpngld hardcore noob buuut enthusiastic 109:23
shpngldnever needed to do it09:24
aeternum_solusdo ifconfig and see what your ip address is... gateway is normally .1 on the end of the address instead of waht you have09:24
shpngldok...tryin now09:24
shpngldOMFG..which line i have to follow?!!09:25
aeternum_solusthe one that says inet addr:09:25
Sysiaeternum_solus: for me gateway has usually been .254 but I'd just check with traceroute09:26
aeternum_solusoh. forgot about traceroute ^_^09:26
shpngld64 bytes from 192.168.1.76: icmp_req=2 ttl=64 time=0.030 ms09:27
shpngld64 bytes from 192.168.1.76: icmp_req=3 ttl=64 time=0.025 ms09:27
shpngld64 bytes from 192.168.1.76: icmp_req=4 ttl=64 time=0.028 ms09:27
shpngld64 bytes from 192.168.1.76: icmp_req=5 ttl=64 time=0.030 ms09:27
shpngld64 bytes from 192.168.1.76: icmp_req09:27
shpngldnot to flood09:27
aeternum_solussee, it's not your wireless, it's your internet connection09:27
knome!pastebin | shpngld09:27
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aeternum_soluswait09:27
aeternum_solusthat's your IP09:28
Sysiaeternum_solus: you tell that by he pinging localhost? :P09:28
shpngldaeternum_solus,  its weird cuz its been OK for 2 months09:28
shpngldI mean stable09:28
aeternum_solusSysi: yeah, just noticed that's not his gateway09:28
* shpngld failed09:28
Sysishpngld: run traceroute google.fi, first line should have IP of your gateway, ping it09:28
Sysieasiest would be trying wireless from windows on same machine09:29
shpngldtraceroute6 www.google.fi09:30
shpngldconnect: Network is unreachable09:30
aeternum_solusnot traceroute09:30
aeternum_solus609:30
aeternum_solusjust traceroute09:30
shpngldSysi,  I have a winxp PC nexto me it OK09:30
Sysishpngld: it's slightly different if device if different09:30
shpngldI dont have it installed09:30
Sysi12:21  <Sysi> broadcom drivers are pretty bad <Sysi> I'd try 12.04 and possibly proprietary driver09:31
shpngldSysi,  10x 4 the advice but my pc is quite old09:32
shpngldweak u can say09:32
shpngldIm upd to 11.10 now so i cant install ttraceroute09:32
SysiI'd make clean installation of 12.04, updates cause problems too09:33
Sysihoping your laptop's antenna is okay09:33
Sysiwhat does free -m say? for Mem, total09:34
Sysiaka, how much ram do you got?09:35
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rxr_Hi,  my laptop screen is much brighter with windows booted than with xubuntu booted, (power cord connected in both cases, and i've set the "keyboard screen settings" to maximum. Are there any config files etc where I can "increase" the brightness in xubuntu?13:07
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saschakbrxr_ Have you tried the acpi_backlight=vendor kernel parameter? GRUB_CMDLINE_   ... LINUX="acpi_backlight=vendor"  in file /etc/default/grub13:29
saschakbrxr_ otherwise, xrandr might be a help to you ... xrandr --screen VGA1 --brightness 10013:31
holsteinrxr_: i found a line to add from the forums for one of my machines, though it doesnt need it with the latest kernels13:34
holsteinrxr_: i would look for an "additional" driver for the graphics... i would try searching around in the forums... i would consider thinking of it as a powersaving mode and just tolerate it13:35
holsteinOH, and i see the post from saschakb ...that looks like the kind of thing that worked for me13:36
itai_michaelsonhi, i want to add <super + D> to keyboard shortcuts to show desktop , but it seems that this shortcuts already runs a search within a windows, i dont need that . but when i go to  setting >window manager>keyboard - <super> + D is not there. Where can i find it ?13:46
holsteinitai_michaelson: you added the shortcut you like there, and its not doing what you asked?13:49
itai_michaelsonholstein, no , even before i added <super > + D would open this search window .13:50
holsteinmaybe theres a xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts.xml13:50
Sysiitai_michaelson: in some app or all of them?13:51
holsteini would just poke around in ~/.config in the xfce related directories.. i would do it in a "test" user if i were worried about breaking something13:51
itai_michaelsonSysi, some apps13:52
Sysicould be their own shortcut13:52
holsteinmight be on a per-app basis. thats going to be trickier i would imagine13:52
itai_michaelsonSysi, well, it happens in the actual window for "keyboard" in settings>windows amanager13:53
saschakbThe keyboard shortcuts are in ~/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts.xml - if you search for them ...13:54
itai_michaelsonsaschakb, thanks' , i'll have  a look13:54
saschakbitai_michaelson, you're welcome13:54
itai_michaelsonstrange : <property name="<Super>d" type="string" value="show_desktop_key"/>13:57
itai_michaelsonit looks like it should show desktop by default13:57
saschakbitai_michaelson, if you have open programs, itshows you the naked desktop background or switches back to the view you had before13:59
itai_michaelsonsaschakb, except it doesnt. in xchat it does nothing, in firefox nothing, in thunar it runs a search , in settings it runs a search14:00
pimperleI get lots of Gtk-WARNING **: Theme parsing error:s when running gtk3 applications under xubuntu, and changing the gtk theme does not help (or i have yet to find a working theme). can i fix this or disable the gtk engine from displaying the errors?14:01
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giordanosalve a tutti/e ho da chiedervi una cosa, siccome ad un mio amico interesserebbe usare xubuntu ma per ragioni di grafica si adatta ad windows mi ha chiesto di vedere se si può fare perché lui non è stato capace mi potreste dare una mano? grazie15:21
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David-Ano problem15:26
hjbehlinghi is there a place where I can set the system-wide "open with" (mime types) in Xubuntu?16:43
klymerobonjour16:43
GridCubehjbehling, there sure is16:44
hjbehlingGridCube: i think i found it, is it /usr/share/applications/defaults.list? I'm trying to lock down the "open with" on a large number of computers irrespective of user16:45
klymeroil y a des francais dan la salle ?16:45
knome!fr | klymero16:45
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GridCube!f...16:46
knomeGridCube, :)16:46
GridCubebeat me16:46
GridCubeknome, im sure i saw a question regarding "0pen with" menus somewhere lately, in the mail lists i guess16:47
knomeprobably16:48
David-Ahjbehling: lock down? you cannot lock down a general desktop environment, there are to many ways to access files and programs.16:48
GridCubeyep, this was it, https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-users/2012-August/004479.html16:48
GridCubehjbehling, ^16:48
hjbehlingDavid-A: lock down is the wrong term,  what i mean is set defaults based on a profile that i can easily distribute16:49
hjbehlingmy users are unlikely to want to change anything16:49
knomehjbehling, i don't think disallowing users to do changes is possible16:50
David-Aok, that sounds like a really good idea16:50
knomewell, you can probably make them not have permissions to change the files, but the menu will still appear16:50
hjbehlingGridCube: Thanks! this is what I was looking for16:51
hjbehlingknome: sorry, I was being very imprecise. I don't need to lock the preferences, but I do need to set some defaults16:52
knomemm-hmm:) then the link GridCube pasted is definitely the right way16:52
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hjbehlinghow do i set the network proxy in xubuntu 12.04?17:38
hjbehlinggot it, nm17:49
danВсем доброй ночи. Есть русскоговорящие?18:24
Sysi!ru18:25
ubottuПожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.18:25
xubuntu544hello.18:46
xubuntu544bye18:47
knomexubuntu544, hullo and see you.18:49
dominic_hi, does anyone know of a grooveshark client that has offline compatibility?19:33
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wirelesslesshello all! Im runnin xubuntu 11.10 with wireless wlan (b43)...Under recovery mode w/ console I have Inet aceess,,in normal mode I dont,,,I do connect to the local Net but there is almost no transfer..what can i do to fix it?20:36
wirelesslessdo any1 have an adviced?20:39
v1adimirdepends what was changed for it to stop working?.. btw., why not use 12.04.1 that just came out the other day20:42
FounderOf420what do you mean by no transfer? low speeds?20:42
wirelesslessFounderOf420: yes almost no transfer20:43
wirelesslessvladimir: it works in recovery mode (console) but not in normal20:44
wirelesslessit connects very very haRD TO THE ROUTER20:44
wirelesslessright now Im upgr to 12.04 under recovery console mode w/o any problems w/nice speed20:45
wirelesslesswhat can i do?20:45
v1adimirwirelessless: upgrading to 12.04? 12.04.1 has been released20:45
wirelesslesswell Im a lil behind all that20:46
* wirelessless noob20:46
wirelesslessmy pc is not very good20:46
wirelesslessold 120:46
v1adimirmaybe you could check if your ruter is on automatic DHCP?20:46
v1adimir*router20:46
FounderOf420connects very hard to router? you mean it takes a long time?20:47
wirelesslessI think it is...at least on this PC (winV) its DHCP auto20:47
wirelesslessyes..under normal mode20:47
wirelesslessxfce session20:47
wirelesslessnow in console mode is just awesome but w/o GUI20:48
v1adimiris the router connected via USB or regularly?20:48
wirelesslessregularly i guess...i dont have acess to it sadly20:49
v1adimir:/ but ok probably means that it's the OS20:49
wirelesslessI think so....I dont know what to do20:49
wirelesslessifconfig list the device20:50
wirelesslesswlan0...20:50
wirelesslessit just dont workin normal mode20:50
v1adimiryea wireless can be a b!tch sometimes :f20:50
wirelesslessin 11.04 it worked fine20:51
wirelesslessand now too...but in rec console20:51
wirelesslessin failsafe GUI it doesnt work..in browser20:51
wirelesslessDNS fail20:51
wirelesslessany advice?20:52
v1adimirsudo lspci -nn | grep Ethernet or sudo lspci -nn | grep Network lists your wireless?20:56
wirelesslessv1adimir:  yes its wireless20:58
wirelesslessI cant open new terminal cuz of the updates runnin now21:00
v1adimirI meant just to see if it's the correct drivers maybe21:03
v1adimirif it's IDd correctly21:03
wirelesslessI cantr open new terminal...sasdly gotta wait...21:04
v1adimirwirelessless: from the panel, Connection Information, does it show all the IPs?21:04
wirelesslessyes21:04
v1adimirip address and default route is correct for your router?21:04
wirelesslessI think so21:05
v1adimirheh ok21:05
wirelesslessIm upgr now w nice progress b ut in rec mode21:05
wirelesslessthe wlan is installed and works fine (as before) but only in rec mode21:06
FounderOf420did it just randomly break or has it always been that way21:14
wirelesslessFounderOf420: randomly i can say21:14
wirelesslessit worked just fine b421:14
wirelesslessI have to w8 15min more to finish the updae so I can do the commands from Vlad21:16
FounderOf420i feel like i've had this same issue in the past but a different distro21:16
FounderOf420solution was to delete the folder /home/<user>/.gconf/apps/nm-applet21:17
FounderOf420thus removing its config file. then my connection started working again21:17
v1adimiroh before that, when you can run the console, try sudo lshw -C Network to see if the driver is your b43 wireless one21:17
v1adimir*that's claiming the connection21:17
wirelesslessthanks guys , I want to do it immediately..but there r updaes runnin now21:18
wirelesslessI will do it but have to w821:18
wirelesslessIm sure the drv is the correct one b4321:19
wirelesslessbcm431821:19
wirelesslessthats the model21:19
v1adimircool just check if it says driver=your b43 one or maybe there's a conflict there21:19
wirelesslessI made a mistake startin the updates now21:20
v1adimirupdate might fix it xD21:20
FounderOf420indeed21:20
wirelesslessI am not sure..but im doin it cuz everybody says Upgarde to 12.0421:20
wirelesslesscmoooooooooooooooooooon Upgarde........21:21
v1adimir:)21:22
wirelesslessI have wondered which is the device drv so i can delete aqnd reinstall...21:22
wirelesslessdeleted few dirs in firmware21:23
wirelessless..no sucess21:23
wirelesslessI havent patched the b43 fw cutter may b this is problem21:25
wirelesslessused it to install thye firmware21:25
v1adimirbefore you lose patience with 12.04, check in session and startup, application autostart for the Blueman Applet (on and off)21:25
wirelesslesswhat i have to do w it?21:25
wirelesslessthe applet21:26
v1adimirnot sure if it does, just sayin' :$21:26
wirelesslessgee im stuck w the upgrade cant do anything21:26
wirelessless100k/s21:27
wirelesslesspff21:27
wirelesslessso when upgrade finishes i will start in xfce session  and check startup first Vladimir?21:27
v1adimirwhy not xubuntu session?..21:28
v1adimirxfce is there, but it's not default21:28
wirelesslessok xubuntu then21:28
v1adimiryea if it gives you trouble, gave me grief by crashing all the time on this box21:29
wirelessless20min more to w821:29
wirelesslessim dumb..why did i startit...21:29
v1adimirheh :f21:30
wirelesslesscmoooooooooooon21:30
v1adimirI think I can upgrade in 20, bb21:30
wirelesslessawesome its almost anhour here21:31
wirelesslessim gettin mad here...gotta get some brew....21:33
wirelesslessat least  got some beers...phew12 min left21:42
wirelesslessI m havin hard time w xubuntu but will never everr get back to windows21:43
wirelesslessits so much better as performsance and im not a gamer (well rarely ...some ol;d school stuff)21:44
wirelesslessIm tryin to find some version or lookalike of UFO/XCOM/Civilization game21:45
wirelesslessbut with no web access on the pc is pain in the a££21:45
knomewirelessless, please watch the language as this is a family-friendly channel. thanks! :)21:45
wirelesslessknome:  Im sorry bout it21:46
knomeno problem21:46
wirelesslessforgot that here r younger ppl21:46
wirelesslessknome:  do u have a recccomendation for a software do diagnose my system to find problems/prevent them?21:47
knomedepends on what kind of problems you are referring to21:47
wirelesslessthere r a loto of weird msgs when shuttin down the pc21:47
knomeif your pc works well, you can ignore them21:48
wirelesslesswell it worked until yesterday just fine.....21:48
wirelesslessdo i need an antivirus/firewall?21:49
knomewirelessless, if you don't have a hardware firewall, i suggest you to install firestarter21:57
knomewirelessless, to be sure about viruses (which are next to extinct on linux), you can use clamav21:58
wirelesslessknome: I dunno about Hardwarre firewall 1st time hear bout it, but ill check 4 firestarter21:58
knomewirelessless, or gufw for firewall21:58
wirelessless3min to go..21:59
wirelesslessdeff wil check..but i need the net access first21:59
knomejust use common sense whenever something asks your password21:59
knome"do i really need to insert this"21:59
wirelesslessyes i do try21:59
wirelesslessI am not messing too much w software22:00
wirelesslessdeff will check the firewall u told me22:01
wirelessless..ok so the upgrade is almost finished..i will reset and eneter xubuntu session22:02
wirelesslessknome: what is PAM library?22:06
wirelesslessServices to restart for PAM libray upgarde?22:07
wirelessless:cron atd:22:07
knomejust answer yes22:07
wirelesslessok....22:08
wirelessless..wow so much stuff goin on22:08
wirelessless.....woah..neverendin lines of unppackin and stufff22:14
wirelessless"core temperature above threshold" ?!?!?22:14
knomewirelessless, sounds like the pc is running hot. have you cleaned it? :)22:15
wirelesslesswell...A little22:15
wirelesslessI have to turn on the other ventailation22:15
wirelesslessits open from 1 side22:16
knomehmm, it's not "ventilation"22:17
knomei'd imagine it might even run cooler if you put the both "walls" in place22:17
knomethat way the air should go around better22:17
wirelesslessknome:   u r right bout this22:18
knomethough if it doesn't, maybe consider buying another fan to push the air out22:18
wirelesslessthe display on the MB says 2.022:18
wirelessless..or its 2022:18
knome2.0 or 20 what?22:18
knomedoesn't sound like temperatures "above thresold"22:19
wirelesslessthere is a small display on the MB that have some digits22:19
wirelesslessI turned on some other Propeller22:19
wirelesslesslol22:19
wirelesslessits sounds like its gonna lift off22:20
wirelesslessthis PC is quite diff 4 me... aditional fans and stuff22:20
knomehmm, right. maybe refer to it's manual :)22:21
knome*its22:21
wirelesslessknome:  i have to find it first22:21
wirelesslessits a present from a friend22:21
knomeor just look for the motherboard model, and find it from the internet22:22
knomemost manuals are online22:22
wirelesslesshis old pc22:23
wirelesslesswith diff colred LEDS inside22:23
wirelesslessyes I will..b4 closin the case22:29
wirelesslessi just want to run thew web acces and then..22:29
wirelesslessquite long is this upgarde takin..22:29
knomeare you upgrading from 10.04 or 11.10 ?22:29
wirelessless11.1022:31
wirelesslessstill waiting....22:32
wirelesslessI ve been mistaken,,,it is upgarded from 11.04 to 11.1022:35
wirelesslessfail on me22:35
knomeokay22:38
knomei suggest you to upgrade to 12.04 too, if you have time22:38
knomeif you don't have any data you want to save and can burn a CD or use a usb disk, you could also install 12.04 directly with no upgrades22:39
knomethough you've been waiting for quiet a long, so maybe better to upgrade if that works22:39
wirelesslessI will upgarde now22:47
knome:)22:47
wirelesslesstryin to enter recovery mode.......22:47
wirelesslesssomething is wrong again22:48
knomesounds like tricky hardware22:48
wirelesslessyes22:49
wirelesslessomg22:49
knomeif you can, maybe burning a 12.04 CD and trying the live CD would be good, if you constantly have problems with the upgraded system22:49
wirelesslessI have usb drive only..no empty cd22:50
wirelesslesscan i do it this way?22:50
knomewirelessless, yes, you're able to use a usb drive too22:56
wirelesslessknome: Im downloadin from http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/xubuntu/releases/12.04/release/22:58
knomewirelessless, yup, that works22:59
wirelesslessdesktop i 386 iso23:00
wirelesslessknome: I just copy the iso to the usb?23:00
knomethat's a safe choice, unless you have >4GB mem23:00
wirelesslessi dont have23:01
knomewirelessless, no, you will need to "burn" it23:01
knomelet me find you a tutorial23:01
wirelesslessI couldnt manage to eneter recovery mode...got in root shell directly23:01
knomehttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick23:02
knomethat page should cover all possible cases to create a bootable usb stick23:02
wirelesslessknome:  awesome thanks23:03
knomenp23:03
wirelesslessknome: Im doin the usb now with lil23:10
wirelesslessthe tricky part will be with the bios options to start up from USb23:11
knomethat's relatively easy; just be confident in what you are doing, and do what you need to :)23:11
wirelesslessu r right but the bios is quite diff than the others i used b423:12
knomeyou will get used to it really quickly23:12
wirelesslessI really need to23:13
wirelessless92%23:13
wirelesslessextractin virtual box23:15
wirelesslessthis is gonna be a challenge23:15
wirelesslessok23:21
wirelesslessknome:23:21
wirelesslessI booted from usb23:22
wirelesslessdiff landscape now23:22
knomeyup, i assume you seleted "try xubuntu" ?23:23
wirelesslessno23:23
wirelesslessit just started23:23
wirelesslessthere was a human siluetted and keyboard23:23
wirelesslessbottom of screen23:23
wirelesslessaaa23:24
wirelesslessi see that23:24
wirelesslessTry or install?23:24
wirelesslessnow i got to thye screen23:24
wirelesslessmayb i should try or directlyinstall?23:25
GridCubetry it first23:27
wirelesslessI am in23:27
wirelesslessno web access23:27
wirelesslessmonitor is reckognised23:28
knomeat least some progress then?23:28
wirelesslessyes23:28
wirelesslessadditional drivers is empty23:28
knomedo you know which wifi card it is?23:29
wirelesslessyes broadcom 431823:30
wirelesslessb4323:30
wirelesslessi havet o install it manually23:30
knomehttp://askubuntu.com/questions/150929/no-firmware-found-for-broadcom-wireless-card-bcm4318-on-dell-latitude-d61023:31
wirelesslesswhich is that function key23:35
knomei suppose the poster refers to a function key to enable/disable wireless on laptops23:36
knomeif you are on a desktop, don't worry about that23:36
wirelesslesswell in my case I have to d/l fwcutter A?23:36
wirelesslessAND FIRMWARE?23:37
wirelesslessoops23:37
wirelesslesssorry 4 CAPS23:37
knome"sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-installer"23:39
knomeyou still need to install both23:39
wirelesslessI dont have web access23:40
wirelesslessI have to d/l manually right23:40
knomeyes, you'll need to get those manually23:44
knomebut those are the packages you will need (and their dependencies, if any)23:44
wirelesslesssadly I dont have other USB to transfer them23:45
wirelesslesscan i just install 1204 and then use the usb23:45
knomeyes, definitely23:45
wirelesslessknomw i will chose to delete 11 10 and reinstall?23:48
wirelesslessUpgarde is not available23:48
wirelesslessneed some help with partitioning23:49
knomewirelessless, yes, just delete 11.10 if you don't have any data to save. also, if you don't have any data, you can simply use the whole disk, as is the default23:51
wirelesslessok- the wholoe disk23:52
wirelesslessok...installin now23:53
knomegood luck23:53
wirelesslessknome:  thanks a lot for ur help......23:54
knomeno problem23:54
knomehope you get it working23:54
unheedingi get it23:54
unheedingknome, like KDE + gnome23:54
wirelesslessknome:  hopefully23:54
knomeunheeding, nope, it's no reference to any computer-related thing.23:54
unheedingoh come on23:55
wirelesslessits like a gnome on K ;-)23:55
knomei used gnome a few years and kde a few days, but no, it's neither of those, and i had this nick years before diving into linux23:55

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