[00:22] <shadeslayer> !testers
[00:22] <ubottu> Testing help needed in #kubuntu-devel ping Riddell, yofel, soee, Tm_T, shadeslayer, BluesKaj, James147, em
[00:22] <shadeslayer> KDE Telepathy needs testing : https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly
[02:07] <ScottK> shadeslayer: Re quassel: go for it.
[03:01] <shadeslayer> ScottK: will upload today then 
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[07:20] <shadeslayer> so, did anyone test ktp?
[07:20] <shadeslayer> can I move it to the ktp ppa for even wider testing? Yes? No?
[08:32] <shadeslayer> agateau: oh btw, those black bars that we talked about in the ktp-call-ui? that's because ktp-call-ui scales the recieved video to correct dimensions
[08:32] <shadeslayer> unfourtunately the code that's supposed to tell clients the dimensions of the video is not implmented in telepathy yet
[09:09] <jussi> have they implemented passwords for jabber chatrooms yet? :/
[09:10] <jussi> shadeslayer: ^^
[09:10] <shadeslayer> I .... don't know 
[09:10] <shadeslayer> if I recall correctly from the release notes, nope
[09:12] <shadeslayer> ok nope
[09:12] <shadeslayer> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=288502
[09:12] <ubottu> KDE bug 288502 in general "Cannot connect to password protected Jabber conferences." [Normal,New]
[09:13] <shadeslayer> I could try and work on this ... maybe for 0.7 or sth
[09:32] <jussi> shadeslayer: that would be very appreciated. If you do that, I will use ktp on a regular basis (daily) and report bugs. :D
[09:32] <jussi> (then I can stop using kopete which crashes after every unsuspend...)
[09:32] <shadeslayer> haha :D
[09:33] <Riddell> morning
[09:33] <Riddell> what did I miss?
[09:34] <jussi> Riddell: shadeslayer promised to fix ktp for me :D
[09:35] <jussi> :P
[09:36] <shadeslayer> sure, as soon as I can figure out how to implement it :P
[09:37] <shadeslayer> Riddell: not much except a new ktp release and missing 12.04 images :)
[09:39] <Riddell> shadeslayer: thanks for handling those
[09:40] <shadeslayer> no problem, though now we need a release exception for ktp 0.5
[09:40] <Riddell> file a bug and a member of the release team can review quick enough
[09:42] <shadeslayer> that's on my todo once a couple of people confirm that the upgrade works for them
[09:42] <Riddell> shadeslayer: where's the PPA now?
[09:43] <shadeslayer> https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/nightly
[09:44] <jussi> shadeslayer: re: implementation, just have a look what kopete does and do the opposite :P 
[09:45] <shadeslayer> heh, but kopete doesn't use telepathy ;)
[09:45] <shadeslayer> so its going to be a bit different
[09:51] <Riddell> I would have thought telepathy would do passwords the same for all protocols
[09:52] <Riddell> isn't that the point of telepathy that it takes care of the details and the UI just needs to do mostly one thing for all of them?
[10:51] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ping?
[11:34] <ingwa> Hi
[11:34] <ingwa> I was chatting a bit with Riddell about Calligra in ubuntu and kubuntu...
[11:34] <ingwa> And he said there is a certain bureaucracy in getting it into ubuntu proper with updates and stuff.
[11:35] <ingwa> ScottK: Your name was mentioned as "a nice kubuntu guy doing work for KDE SC". :)
[11:35] <ingwa> Would it be possible for you to add Calligra to the KDE general mix?
[11:36] <Riddell> last seen at 3 in the morning, he might not be around yet :)
[11:37] <ScottK> Not sure what you mean by add it.
[11:37] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I fell asleep at my desk .... >.<
[11:38] <ingwa> ScottK: Also packaging calligra updates
[11:39] <ScottK> Due to $WORK my time has been limited recently, so I'm really not in a position to volunteer to do more than I am now.
[11:40] <ScottK> Also, Calligra isn't particularly usable for me, so it's not something I'd likely be highly motivated about.
[11:40] <Riddell> shadeslayer: telepathy upgrades and works nice
[11:40] <shadeslayer> note to self: don't look at regex after lunch
[11:40] <ingwa> ScottK: ok, I see
[11:42] <ingwa> ScottK: thanks
[12:10] <shadeslayer> so bug 950749 looks like a issue in ubuntu's software center
[12:10] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 950749 in meta-kde-telepathy (Ubuntu) "kde4 softwarecenter.db.update: ktp-send-file.desktop' could not be read correctly" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/950749
[12:16] <Riddell> shadeslayer: well it's whatever makes app-install-data not reading the file
[12:16] <Riddell> but no idea why, it looks fine
[12:18] <Riddell> shadeslayer: I guess install software-centre and watch for the "Updating software catalog...this may take a moment." notice
[12:18] <shadeslayer> yeah, will do
[12:26] <apachelogger> Riddell, shadeslayer: did you run desktop-file-validate on it?
[12:26] <shadeslayer> nope
[12:29] <Riddell> no error, probably an old bug
[12:29] <shadeslayer> yeah, looks fine for 0.5
[12:31] <shadeslayer> seems legit enough, has 3 dupes
[12:37] <Riddell> shadeslayer: but fairly old no?
[12:38] <shadeslayer> Conf: ACER one with Kubuntu Precise 12.04 Beta 1 updated dayly and including KDE 4.8.1
[12:38] <shadeslayer> yes
[12:39] <shadeslayer> maybe it was even fixed with 0.4.0
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[13:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde-telepathy/+bug/1042226
[13:08] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1042226 in meta-kde-telepathy (Ubuntu) "FFe: KDE Telepathy 0.5.0" [Undecided,New]
[13:09] <shadeslayer> haven't subscribed release team just yet
[13:37] <Riddell> shadeslayer: can you add testers and a link to upstream's changelog?
[13:37] <shadeslayer> testers?
[13:38] <shadeslayer> Upstream changelog hasn't been publically released yet :(
[13:38] <Riddell> shadeslayer: or get anyone who's tested it to comment
[13:39] <shadeslayer> will do
[13:39] <Riddell> shadeslayer: anything on the kde-telepathy mailing list about what's new in it?
[13:40] <shadeslayer> not really
[13:40] <shadeslayer> just says that 0.5 was released
[13:40] <shadeslayer> there is a small changelog
[13:40] <shadeslayer> but it's on notes.kde.org and private
[13:40] <shadeslayer> which is why I've linked to the bugs closed
[13:44] <Riddell> a private changelog seens curious, can you ask for permission to copy and paste it into the ug
[13:44] <Riddell> bug
[13:45] <shadeslayer> it's actually supposed to go on the dot
[13:46] <shadeslayer> so they used a private etherpad to jot down notes
[13:46] <shadeslayer> dot story was submitted and someone just needs to post it to dot.kde.org
[13:50] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://i.imgur.com/8AUJN.png
[13:51] <shadeslayer> couple of files were missing in ktp-text-ui, fixed them up
[13:52] <Riddell> shadeslayer: talking to yourself again? :)
[13:52] <shadeslayer> lol
[13:52] <shadeslayer> I even call myself at times
[14:19] <debfx> ScottK: are you going to push KDE 4.8.5 to -proposed now that 12.04.1 has been released?
[14:34] <Riddell> shadeslayer: published http://dot.kde.org/2012/08/27/5th-release-kde-telepathy-instant-messaging-suite
[14:35] <shadeslayer> awesum
[14:37] <shadeslayer> added changelog, just needs someone who has tested the release to comment now
[14:37] <shadeslayer> /hint/
[14:59] <ScottK> debfx: We should.  We need to see where we are on the ibus stuff first and it's also better if it's not me that does it since if I don't upload it, I can accept it for ubuntu-sru.
[15:39] <mparillo> This weekend, I noticed there was some discussion over the DVD, but is it safe to add a news item about 12.04.1?
[15:47] <Riddell> mparillo: does the download page need updated?
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[15:52] <Riddell> no doesn't look likeit
[15:52] <Riddell> mparillo: yes go ahead with a news story
[15:52] <mparillo> Riddell: The big download button, mirror links, bit torrent links, and alternate CD links look good. 
[15:53] <mparillo> Riddell: The DVD Links (both regular and Bit Torrent) still are at 12.04
[15:54] <mparillo> Riddell: The ARM is also still at 12.04, but Mac seems to point to 12.04.1
[15:55] <mparillo> Riddell: Last, The MD5 sums appear current.
[15:57] <Riddell> mparillo: yep that sounds right
[16:00] <mparillo> Riddell: So I go to https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/news/user and sign in. Do I then clone? I assume it will ask me for a story to clone?
[16:01] <mparillo> Riddell: Or do I go to create content at https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/node/add and pick news?
[16:04] <shadeslayer> the latter I believe
[16:13] <debfx> shadeslayer: do you know anyone who can push stuff to telepathy-qt?
[16:13] <debfx> it would be good to get https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46241 committed
[16:13] <ubottu> Freedesktop bug 46241 in tp-qt "telepathy-qt4-farsight: undefined references" [Normal,New]
[16:14] <mparillo> Yikes: I think the [publish|promote to production] process is automagic! http://www.kubuntu.org/news/lts-update-12041-released 
[16:14] <shadeslayer> debfx: sure
[16:17] <debfx> thanks
[16:17] <shadeslayer> you'll have to wait for him to reply on the bugzilla though ;)
[16:19] <debfx> ScottK: ok, so what's the plan to verify the ibus stuff?
[16:20] <mikhas> oh, ibus
[16:20] <mikhas> who's responsible for that in Kubuntu?
[16:22] <ScottK> debfx: IIRC we got some it works/it doesn't replies on kubuntu-devel, but I don't recall where we were for sure.
[16:23] <shadeslayer> someone who was very excited about it on the ML
[16:26] <debfx> hm, I haven't been following the ibus discussion
[16:27] <debfx> mikhas: no one, that's the problem
[16:27] <debfx> we need someone who actually uses input methods
[16:28] <mikhas> well, I do, but not ibus =p
[16:37] <Riddell> mparillo: did you get it?
[16:38] <Riddell> ah yes there it is, lovely, thanks
[16:38] <mparillo> Riddell: Thanks to the tip from shadeslayer, yes. 
[16:39] <mparillo> Riddell: And you are most welcome. This is a whole lot easier than the bzr thing, but pretty scary.
[17:03] <shadeslayer> debfx: merged upstream
[17:03] <shadeslayer> thanks :)
[17:05] <shadeslayer> oh oh oh
[17:05] <shadeslayer> buyvm will have new stock
[17:05] <shadeslayer> anyone who wants cheap VPS's? :P
[17:18] <shadeslayer> bah, drf attributed the patch to me >.>
[17:19] <debfx> yay :)
[17:57] <dantti_laptop> Riddell: can you please reply aacid last email on  k-c-d?
[18:01] <Riddell> mm?
[18:02] <Riddell> oh I see
[18:03] <dantti_laptop> Riddell: he questions what the current maintainer of printer-applet thinks about  it being replaced
[18:08] <Riddell> voila
[18:09] <dantti_laptop> thanks :)
[19:27] <Riddell> mparillo: fancy replying to an e-mail saying why we don't have translations on the kubuntu website?
[19:28] <mparillo> Riddell: I have been trying to clean up the Launchpad bugs (some of them are very old), but I suppose the bottom line is if you see a need, please jump in and help, right?
[19:29] <Riddell> mparillo: yep, you're doing great
[19:29] <Riddell> mparillo: what's your e-mail?
[19:31] <mparillo> Funny you should ask. I originally created my launchpad ID with a company e-mail, and I changed the mail preferences to go to maparillo@gmail.com, which goes great, but my Launchpad identifier is still my old company e-mail.
[19:32] <Riddell> bounced, you can say that it would take a lot of effort to have coordinated translations and we don't have the person powre
[19:32] <Riddell> power
[19:33] <Riddell> mparillo: if you get annoyed by sysadmins not picking up the new theme you can ask in #canonical-sysadmin about the progress on rt #20296
[19:34] <Riddell> but probably best in UK work timezone
[19:35] <mparillo> I try to be low maintenance, but when I get ambitious, I think the next step on that front is to update the screenshots to show the default s/w.
[19:35] <Riddell> yes that would be great
[19:38] <mparillo> Riddell: As an alternative, could I suggest he starts with http://www.kubuntu.org/support/italiano There are a couple of bugs that the language pages go nowhere (not exactly true, as the German one does, but mostly true as I believe all the others are empty).
[19:40] <Riddell> mparillo: top idea
[19:42] <mparillo> Riddell: I will make the suggestion, but it might have to wait until tomorrow. Day job and all that.
[19:42] <Riddell> no rush
[19:44] <bbeck_> Does anyone know if KDE Telepathy will be updated from 0.4 to 0.5 through backports?
[19:46] <Riddell> bbeck_: shadeslayer packaged that and he'll be asleep so I don't know if it's in his plans
[19:46] <bbeck_> Riddell: thanks.  I'm really looking forward to it.
[19:48] <jussi> bbeck_: Im pretty sure shadeslayer put it into a PPA recently, if you are interested in testing it.
[19:49] <bbeck_> jussi: thanks, i'll look it up.
[20:05] <jussi> !info calligra quantal
[20:05] <ubottu> calligra (source: calligra): integrated work applications suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.4.0-0ubuntu2 (quantal), package size 8 kB, installed size 66 kB
[20:07] <yofel> hm, that's wrong, quantal has 1:2.5.0-0ubuntu1
[20:07] <jussi> oh guess ubottu hasnt run apt-get update recently
[20:47] <jussi> !info calligra quantal
[20:47] <ubottu> calligra (source: calligra): extensive productivity and creative suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.5.0-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 8 kB, installed size 71 kB
[20:47] <jussi> yofel: ^^
[20:54] <yofel> :D
[23:22] <ryanakca> Riddell: D'you know if we ever got internationalisation setup in Drupal for www.kubuntu.org? I received an email offering to translate the website to Italian.