[00:00] <noctiphile> ok, after going to prompt it says root filesystem check failed, but I get the shell ok
[00:00] <noctiphile> yes, I have a 2nd pc
[00:00] <phunyguy> sounds like a dead HDD..
[00:01] <phunyguy> I had one go, shell still worked, but got filesystem errors.
[00:01] <BarkingFish> ok.  So fsck on / is failing - my guess is your hard drive is shot.
[00:01] <noctiphile> dual boots to Windows ok
[00:01] <phunyguy> shell is running in RAM
[00:01] <BarkingFish> noctiphile, how many hard disks do you have in the machine?
[00:02] <noctiphile> and I can access files in home or whatever.  it appears to be mounted ro
[00:02] <noctiphile> one hd
[00:02] <phunyguy> btw, a hard drive can still go bad and work most of the time.
[00:02] <BarkingFish> yeah, root is normally done like that as an option - errors=remount-ro I believe.
[00:02] <phunyguy> get a nice big scratch from the head smashing into the platter
[00:03] <phunyguy> was it dropped?
[00:03] <phunyguy> ...be honest...
[00:03] <noctiphile> no, just sitting on the desk...
[00:03] <BarkingFish> Do you have an ISO copy of Kubuntu at all?
[00:04] <phunyguy> recent earthquake?
[00:04] <noctiphile> an old copy somewhere...
[00:04] <noctiphile> nope, phuny
[00:04] <BarkingFish> The only thing I can think of is that you might have to perform a reinstall.
[00:04] <noctiphile> based on what I just saw in a forum, I think some installation got corrupted from the update done last, but I don't know what to do about it.
[00:05] <phunyguy> Kubuntu has a repair install feature, no?
[00:05] <BarkingFish> that makes me weary then - I haven't updated for a while, so I'll be wise to watch this.
[00:05] <noctiphile> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1507558
[00:05] <BarkingFish> phunyguy, there is a safe mode type thingy in grub, I'm sure of it - recovery mode.
[00:06] <BarkingFish> But I don't think it will let you fsck and repair root - you need to umount root first, and it won't let you do anything once you unmount root :)
[00:06] <noctiphile> my wife is the one who ran the update.  She thinks it was from 10.04 to 12.04 LTS, but I can't confirm.  Grub still lists 10.04 as the last version.
[00:06] <TheLordOfTime> noctiphile:  it wouldnt auto upgrade to 12.04
[00:07] <TheLordOfTime> at least not that i'm aware
[00:07] <BarkingFish> no, TheLordOfTime, you're right.
[00:07] <TheLordOfTime> thought so
[00:07] <TheLordOfTime> that'd still need do-release-upgrade -d or similar command for Kubuntu, no?
[00:07]  * TheLordOfTime memorized Ubuntu's release notes, not Kubuntu's
[00:07] <unheeding> what is the best  desktop environment?
[00:08] <TheLordOfTime> !best | unheeding
[00:08] <unheeding> heh
[00:08] <unheeding> bestbot
[00:09] <BarkingFish> TheLordOfTime, we normally use sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[00:09] <TheLordOfTime> BarkingFish:  to do release upgrades?
[00:09] <TheLordOfTime> 10.04 -> 12.04?
[00:09] <TheLordOfTime> you'd use apt-get upgrade for that?
[00:09] <TheLordOfTime> now, you're breaking the laws of apt-get...
[00:09] <BarkingFish> no, sorry  - sudo apt-get release-upgrade
[00:10]  * BarkingFish is tired
[00:10] <noctiphile> well, anyway, I can't confirm it was the release upgrade, or some other package update
[00:11] <noctiphile> is there a way I can check to see if something failed to install?
[00:12] <BarkingFish> well if you're half way through an upgrade, and it's not finished, and you're broken, I suspect you're going to have to reinstall.
[00:13] <noctiphile> she said whatever it was finished, so I'm assuming it finished with errors
[00:13] <BarkingFish> I'd go to Ubuntu's website, download a full ISO of 12.04, burn it, and install it.
[00:14] <noctiphile> ok, one last thing.  Can I remount the / partition being used as rw?
[00:15] <BarkingFish> you should be able to.  what is the dev address of /
[00:15] <BarkingFish> you can find out by just typing mount in the terminal
[00:15] <noctiphile> /dev/sda5
[00:16] <BarkingFish> ok - so in the terminal, just type mount  -t  ext2  /dev/sda5   /
[00:16] <BarkingFish> that's assuming your root partition is ext2 of course
[00:17] <noctiphile> it say already mounted
[00:18] <noctiphile> ("or busy")
[00:19] <BarkingFish> ok, we'll try for a remount using the full argument
[00:19] <BarkingFish> type: mount -t ext2 /dev/sda5 / -o rw
[00:21] <noctiphile> same message
[00:21] <BarkingFish> :/
[00:22] <noctiphile> how do I verify if it is currently ro or rw?
[00:22] <noctiphile> oh, I could just try to create a file couldn't I?  doh
[00:23] <BarkingFish> yeah, that would work
[00:23] <noctiphile> yeah, can't "touch" anything
[00:23] <noctiphile> it's ro
[00:24] <BarkingFish> I think your only option here is to completely reinstall kubuntu, I'm afraid.
[00:24] <BarkingFish> It sounds to me like root is corrupt, and you ain't gonna get in there to fix it.  You could try recovery mode as a last resort though
[00:25] <BarkingFish> Do you get grub's selection menu pop up when you boot?
[00:25] <noctiphile> yes!
[00:26] <BarkingFish> l,
[00:27] <BarkingFish> *ok, when you reboot, select the recovery mode option in grub, and try to get to a recovery menu - there is a fix option in there, I'm sure - but as I said earlier, i don't think you can fsck root with it
[00:27] <noctiphile> the recovery boot option had the same problem
[00:28] <BarkingFish> yeah, I think you're up the creek a la no paddle I'm afraid then
[00:28] <noctiphile> lol.  okay.  Thank you very much for giving it a shot.
[00:28] <BarkingFish> Do you have anything on windows which can burn an ISO, like Nero SmartStart?
[00:29] <noctiphile> I can put one on a USB drive
[00:29] <BarkingFish> that would be ok then, do one to a USB stick, and install it when you get in.
[00:29] <BarkingFish> Do you have anything on your disks which is important?
[00:29] <noctiphile> that's probably what I'll do
[00:30] <BarkingFish> Because if you reinstall, you're likely to lose whatever you have on there unless you can access whichever parts of the disk you need to, and back them up to a DVD RW or another USB Stick
[00:30] <noctiphile> yeah, I'll have to copy over some stuff first
[00:30] <noctiphile> good thinking
[00:31] <BarkingFish> yep.  OK then, as long as you're ok on what to do, and how, I think it's gonna be best for you to go ahead and do the reinstall. I'm just sorry your root has dropped out.  It happens sometimes, I've lost 3 installs in the past (not Kubuntu) to root corruption and hd failures
[00:34] <noctiphile> I guess it's just a consequence of using a PC
[00:35] <BarkingFish> not always, noctiphile - it can be a number of factors, mine is the fact primarily that I mostly use salvaged equipment to build my PCs, never had a professionally built one with new parts :)
[00:35] <BarkingFish> None of my PCs have cost above $50 to build
[00:38] <Obsidian1723-2> barking how do you build them that cheaply?
[00:39] <BarkingFish> Recycling yard about 3 miles from my house.
[00:39] <BarkingFish> They sell everything off dirt cheap - the less they have to get rid of, the better it is for them :)
[00:40] <BarkingFish> it means they don't pay as much to dispose of all of our garbage :D
[00:40] <Obsidian1723-2> ah
[00:40] <Miles> kilometres
[00:41] <Obsidian1723-2> Yeah, my last brand new PC was in 2005 until I bought one this year, otherwise I usually ran refurb stuff.
[00:41] <Obsidian1723-2> but this new one is worth it. Not that bad of price I paid for it.
[00:41] <BarkingFish> Miles, I use miles.   I wouldn't know a kilometre if you poured one into a basin and shoved it in my pants :P
[00:42] <Miles> On the other hand kilometres doesnt ping me
[00:42] <BarkingFish> if you don't wanna get pinged by unnecessary stuff, change your nick :)
[00:43] <BarkingFish> we have a guy in another channel i'm in called  here  - everytime we type that word, he gets pinged, and he gets annoyed :)
[00:43] <Miles> it's my name
[00:43] <szal> and if you don't wanna get pinged by the evil ops, I suggest you move this conversation to -offtopic ;)
[00:44] <BarkingFish> szal - i was merely pointing something out. if you don't want to get unnecessarily pinged, don't pick a common word as a nick :)
[00:46] <szal> BarkingFish: I was primarily hinting at the PC recycling topic ;)
[00:46] <BarkingFish> ah, ok
[00:46] <Miles> My mum picked it
[01:38] <Linkmaster> I'm planning on making a server with RAID w/ ZFS filesystem for my mom to house her professional pictures, and was going to put Ubuntu Server on it, but I was reading about ZFS, and it says its not part of native Linux? Can I get a regular GParted disk, and set it up that way, or will Linux not natively install inside of ZFS ?
[01:39] <MikeFair> I'd like to connect to an XMPP server MUC, what clients are recommended for that in Kubuntu?
[01:41] <MikeFair> Linkmaster: unless you know about initrd images and kernel modules, and the boot process and mounting root filesystems, I'd suggest making multiple partitions where 1 partition is a straight native install (say 1G  just be safe) and then mount a /data volume as ZFS
[01:41] <MikeFair> or better yet, buy a separate boot drive
[01:42] <MikeFair> put it on a USB flash disk or something
[01:42] <MikeFair> then have the USB OS mount the drives as data volumes
[01:42] <Linkmaster> So, e.g., get a 50gb SSD or something to put the native Ubuntu Server, and have it use the ZFS partitioned drives?
[01:42] <MikeFair> Once you get it working, the just take a backup snapshot of the USB key
[01:43] <MikeFair> Linkmaster: I wouldn't waste the money on a real SSD like that, a 4G usb key
[01:43] <MikeFair> Linkmaster: Then make two of them once it's working
[01:43]  * Linkmaster would end up buying an 8 or 16gig at most
[01:44] <MikeFair> Linkmaster: ok, that's fine, the point is "the server" is small, "the data" is what matters inthis application
[01:45] <MikeFair> Linkmaster: The hardware for this should small, a RasberryPi even
[01:45] <Linkmaster> Mhm, so, putting that aside, since the main question *is* the data, what do you recommend? I'm considering getting my xyz number of drives, and setting them up in some form of RAID(once I figure out the best for it...), and partioning them with ZFS to prevent data corruption as best as possible
[01:45] <MikeFair> Linkmaster: It's for "storage of data" not "processing of data" right?
[01:45] <Linkmaster> Mostly storage, but there *will* be processing, since she'll be accessing it via a samba file share thing from her computers
[01:47] <MikeFair> Linkmaster: Yeah for purposes of this application the Samba processing is minimal, I'm talking things like automatically creating thumbnails of various sizes, auto-adding watermarks, face recognition, OCR, that kind of thing
[01:47] <Linkmaster> She'd probably be doing that on her host computer, the file itself would just be stored on the server
[01:48] <MikeFair> Linkmaster: I personally find RAID adds a lot of ongoing complexity for not a whole lot of benefit.  I personally would just recomment doing a periodic rsync to a second drive
[01:48] <MikeFair> Linkmaster: Or some other kind of backup process
[01:49] <Linkmaster> So I take it building a server with 8gigs of RAM, an i5-2310, an RNX-250PC2, and several 1 or 2 TB HD's is slightly overkill?
[01:49] <MikeFair> Linkmaster: Or get something in hardware that hides the RAID level away from the OS
[01:49] <MikeFair> Linkmaster: hehe - just a bit ;)
[01:49] <Linkmaster> Thats what the ZFS was for, I'd let it handle the RAID for itself
[01:50] <Linkmaster> She wants the server to be fast..so, thats what I assumed would be good for 'fast' without having to sacrifice too much money for
[01:50] <MikeFair> Linkmaster: Yes, it'd be a great way to get dirty with ZFS
[01:50] <MikeFair> Linkmaster: FAST = SSD
[01:50] <MikeFair> but this isn't exactly Kubuntu related anymore :)
[01:50] <unheeding> oh my god COMPWIZ
[01:51] <unheeding> I turned them all on
[01:51] <Linkmaster> mhm, but she needs several *TB*'s of information, and then lets go to offtopic
[01:51] <unheeding> EYE CANDY EVERYWHERE
[01:56] <Jozin> Is there anything better than Wine?
[01:56] <Jozin> I tried to get it to run Guitar Pro and it keeps crashing on me
[02:21] <skreech_> Jozin: Better?
[03:25] <mn2010> Hello All
[04:11] <D-coy> o7
[04:16] <unheeding> oh my I have compwiz on its so awesome
[04:21] <D-coy> compiz?. .. D:
[04:27] <[1]nezumi> howdy is someone here who could give me a hint about dual boot Kubuntu/Win7
[04:27] <[1]nezumi> appreciate a little help as I am linux-handicapped ;)
[04:29] <Daskreech> !win
[04:29] <Daskreech> !dualboot ?
[04:29] <Daskreech> :-p
[04:29] <Daskreech> !dualboot
[04:29] <[1]nezumi> thx "bot"
[04:30] <Daskreech> [1]nezumi: I think that might help but if you want to ask something further poke me
[04:30] <em> Daskreech: whatchya doin?
[04:30] <Daskreech> Hi em
[04:31] <Daskreech> Umm
[04:31] <Daskreech> Catching up with the world
[04:31] <[1]nezumi> I have really short two questions that you may know answer for straight away
[04:32] <[1]nezumi> but thanks for links as well
[04:33] <Daskreech> [1]nezumi: Sure shoot
[04:34] <Daskreech> em: what's happening in your world?
[04:34] <[1]nezumi> because of work I have to keep win and lin separated as much as possible, I cant allow that if I screw up linux (that probably will happen :D) it will affect starting windows. I have all separate drive for linux - but question is if those systems are somehow connected by dual boot ar even if I screw linux up completely or want to try other distro I can do that without worrying about affecting win?
[04:36] <unheeding> [1]nezumi: I've never had a problem with GRUB
[04:38] <[1]nezumi> you know what happens when I make a mess on linux and want to start windows? It will just load up? I am very scared of screwing this up because I depend on that windows at the moment
[04:42] <unheeding> i'd say go for it
[04:43] <unheeding> when i have issues with linux (and I didn't this time, at all!) I'm still able to boot Windows
[04:49] <Daskreech> [1]nezumi: Well you have a few back up escape routes
[04:50] <Daskreech> [1]nezumi: I really doubt that you would be able to screw it up badly enough in the first few weeks bad enough to have boot issues
[04:51] <Daskreech> [1]nezumi: If you'd like i can explain somewhat how it works if you like technical explanations or I can just nod and assure you that you should be able to boot windows at absolute worst case in 15 minutes
[04:51] <[1]nezumi> All I want is to run Krita and Mypaint smoothly but also to get bit deeper into linux - with time
[04:52] <[1]nezumi> I would like to have idea what to do when this dual boot part is screwed :D Thx for your help buddy - all I heard about linux community is that is not helping lol
[04:52] <[1]nezumi> And I like what I already saw on Kubuntu - even if that was only live cd boot
[04:54] <Daskreech> [1]nezumi: Well that's your number one ticket back to working land. If you screw up something so bad that Linux won't boot just load up the live CD and come in here and it should be fixed within about10 minutes
[04:54] <em> [1]nezumi: no a boot issue because of something you do in linux is not likely unless you purposely mess around with GRUB - in any event if your windows partition is so important for work you should set up some backup for that anyway.
[04:55] <Daskreech> If you somehow screw something bad enough that not even that can fix it (which I haven't seen in many years now) then a windows CD will give you access to windows but lock you out of Linux temporarily
[04:55] <Daskreech>  again a live CD should fix that
[04:55] <[1]nezumi> cool - I am running windows for years withour reinstalling it at all - I know how to take care of it but on linux I feel like going to Mars a bit
[04:56] <Daskreech> GRUB (The GRan Unified Bootloader) can boot near anything that exists and it's pretty far out of your daily running around
[04:56] <Daskreech>  You have to really be going out of your way to interfere with it as it exists in it's own little realm
[04:56] <Daskreech> and as I said even then a live CD and 10 minutes should fix it
[04:57] <Daskreech> Krita is great btw
[04:57] <[1]nezumi> if linux and windows are on separate drives - where Grub is located?
[04:57] <[1]nezumi> Yeah I love it even on Windows
[04:57] <Daskreech> [1]nezumi: Mars is kinda coolright now. Go Curiousity!
[04:57] <[1]nezumi> curiosity is pretty much what brings me to it :D
[04:57] <[1]nezumi> but curiosty killed a cat also...
[05:01] <Daskreech> [1]nezumi: and the internet loves kittens
[05:01] <Daskreech>  so we aren't going to let that happen
[05:01] <Daskreech> [1]nezumi: It's a boot loader so it's on the main drive that boots first
[05:01] <[1]nezumi> sorry to bother you but want to clarify
[05:02] <dj_segfault> Hi.  Is there a way to get Kubuntu to start up in text mode, and start/stop X later at will?  Someone told me I could choose "command line" from the login screen, but I didn't see that option.
[05:05] <[1]nezumi> I have win7 on my main drive. Can I install Kubuntu on separate drive but keep boot loader on main one? And I guess I could set so windows loads by default? Promise those are last on my newbie questions ;) FOR TODAY  ;)
[05:05] <Daskreech> [1]nezumi: Yes
[05:06] <Daskreech> [1]nezumi: that's correct
[05:12] <[1]nezumi> thx a LOT buddy!
[05:13] <[1]nezumi> hope this week I am going linux ;)
[05:13] <[1]nezumi> still backuping things
[05:14] <[1]nezumi> later! again thank you
[05:16] <Daskreech> [1]nezumi: Sure. Come here if you have any questions
[05:16] <Daskreech> dj_segfault: What are the options that you see?
[05:17] <dj_segfault> I'm not at that machine right now, but from what I remember, it was like kubuntu, kubuntu safe mode, kubuntu plasma, kubuntu plasma safe mode
[05:29] <em> anyone have any idea why kalarm does not play any alarms for me?
[05:31] <Daskreech> It's afraid of being hit?
[05:32] <Daskreech> dj_segfault: kubuntu safemode should give you a submenu you can choosecommand line from. As another option you can disable kdm from your services on startup
[05:32] <Daskreech>  !upstart
[05:33] <dj_segfault> Daskreech: Thanks. I'll try that.
[05:33] <em> Daskreech: im talking about kalarm in kubuntu
[05:34] <Daskreech> em: I kno :)
[05:45] <hateball> em: By play, do you mean they are silent audio-wise, or do they not pop up at all?
[05:54] <Phiscribe> https://play.google.com/store/books has a free section also
[05:54] <Phiscribe> mt
[07:05] <em> hateball: i dont know if it pops up. I mean there is no audio. Im not sure what popping up would entail
[07:06] <utente> ciao a tutti
[07:06] <utente> !list
[07:06] <hateball> em: iirc, by default it only pops up a window to notify you. I dont recall if it plays any audio by default
[07:06] <em> hateball: lol an alarm clock that wakes you up by popping up?
[07:07] <em> hateball: there is a place in it for 'making an audio alarm" and it asks for a file. I put that in there and then after one minute when i should hear some alarm, I hear nothing.
[07:07] <hateball> em: well probably more people will set alarms to notify them of things when they're actively working with their computer, rather than using it as a wakeup alarm :p
[07:07] <hateball> em: I see
[07:08] <tonino> ciao a tutti
[07:08] <tonino> !list
[07:08] <hateball> em: let me try to reproduce
[07:08] <hateball> !it | tonino
[07:17] <hateball> em: I just created a new "audio alarm", pointed it to /usr/share/sounds/KDE-Im-Phone-Ring.ogg and it played as expected
[07:18] <hateball> em: I did  not adjust any settings regarding volume or so
[07:18] <hateball> em: if you launch kalarm from a terminal, you should see output when it runs the alarm
[07:18] <em> hateball: yeah i dont know what's wrong.
[07:21] <em> hateball: i just quit it and restarted it and now the audio is working.
[07:23] <hateball> em: Well that's an easy fix at least :D
[07:24] <em> i set this to be my wake up alarm --- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFPwm0e_K98
[07:26] <em> well just the first two minutes of that whole opus.
[10:08] <tonino> ciao a tutti
[10:09] <tonino> !list
[10:24] <Anubis> hi there. can anyone tell me a good free dyn dns service ?
[11:49] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[14:28] <bbeck> When I came in this morning, my hard drive was completely full.  It turned out the xsession-errors was about 350GB.  I've been using Kubuntu for a long time, and have never encountered this.  Does anyone know if there should be a cleanup mechanism that for whatever reason isn't working?
[14:47] <dbc254> hoping to catch someone at work with an answer. Kmail doesn't send deleted items to the trash. It just deletes!
[14:50] <Guest11215> I do have a serious issue. When booting to LiveCD environment desktop, I can use everything (free radeon drivers too, which give me gaming power for assault cube fluidly at fixed 60fps - HD6850) but after installation, it boots into a blank screen. I see background light on screen is on, but only see a very grey-blue like colored screen without any pointers and other desktop objects :/
[15:21] <Mamarok> Guest11215: what desktop object do you expect?
[15:22] <Mamarok> you should have a panel
[15:22] <Peace-> Guest11215: are you there ?
[15:22] <Peace-> Mamarok: hola mama
[15:22] <Peace-> rock :P
[15:22] <Mamarok> Peace-: please, I already told you, don't call me like that!
[15:23] <Mamarok> not funny :(
[15:23] <Peace-> Mamarok: infact i remembered and i added rock :O
[15:23] <Mamarok> well, tab completion and type my nick in full or not at all
[15:23] <Peace-> ... come on
[15:24] <Mamarok> because rock is equally wrong
[15:25] <Mamarok> it has nothing to do with either mama or rock, I already told you so
[15:25] <Peace-> oh i noted now
[15:25] <Mamarok> OK
[15:26] <Peace-> it's rok and not rock
[15:27] <Mamarok> it is Mamarok, period, nothing else, so please respect that. mangling other people's names or nicks is impolite
[15:27] <Mamarok> so it is not rok either
[15:28] <Peace-> yes sir
[15:30] <Peace-> Mamarok: but let me say that this kind of discussion is ridiculous in my eyes
[15:30] <Peace-> anyway it' snot support
[15:31] <Mamarok> just respect it in the future.
[17:04] <Wizard_> Yo!
[17:11] <monkeyjuice> hey there Wizard
[17:12] <Wizard> Hi, monkeyjuice.
[17:12] <Wizard> Trying to get used to KDE - once again.
[17:12] <monkeyjuice> were ya been?
[17:13] <Wizard> monkeyjuice: Here and there :)
[17:14] <Wizard> I quit IRCing for some time.
[17:14] <monkeyjuice> oh and what desktop you been using
[17:17] <Wizard> monkeyjuice: XFCE, mostly.
[17:18] <monkeyjuice> ah i c   ive not used it  gnome to kde and stayed with kde
[17:20] <Wizard> :)
[17:21] <Wizard> What's the name of Koffice nowadays?
[17:22] <monkeyjuice> libreoffice
[17:22] <Wizard> Huh?
[17:22] <Wizard> Ah! Calligra!
[17:22] <monkeyjuice> well im still one 11.10 not sure what 12.04 is should be the same
[17:23] <monkeyjuice> still on ( as in using) 11.10
[17:26] <Wizard> Is it still being updated?
[17:26] <monkeyjuice> 11.10 ?  yes
[17:27] <Wizard> :)
[17:27] <monkeyjuice> is that what you were asking?
[17:28] <Wizard> Yes.
[17:28] <monkeyjuice> what are you using
[17:28] <Wizard> If it gets updates it's OK.
[17:28] <Wizard> 12.04
[17:29] <Wizard> I made a fresh install ;P
[17:29] <monkeyjuice> i need to
[17:30] <Wizard> You need to what?
[17:31] <monkeyjuice> do a fresh install of 12.04   upgrade
[17:34] <monkeyjuice> well im off for a bit l8r
[17:43] <killown> http://bpaste.net/show/ZJkw3HXwnIM83GlQqD9s/ I am trying to disable emulate3buttons from kde but seems it ignores the xorg option
[17:44] <killown> I am trying it a long time, seems no one knows how to fix this
[17:46] <kbroulik> killown: did you try changing that "no" to "false" ?
[17:47] <killown> kbroulik, yes, also removing this option too
[17:48] <killown> kbroulik, the strange is, gnome-shell and ubuntu unity disable the mouse3buttons emulation, only kde persist to keep it enabled
[17:51] <killown> Option "Emulate3Buttons" "boolean"
[17:51] <killown> Enable/disable the emulation of the third (middle) mouse button for mice which only have two physical buttons. The third button is emulated by pressing both buttons simultaneously. Default: off
[17:51] <killown> default is off so if I remove it kde should not enable this option
[18:12] <Lynoure> Since couple of days ago, my incoming video feeds flicker
[18:14] <Lynoure> heavily... and even through other windows
[18:19] <Lynoure> it's quite bizarre
[19:09] <abuusaamah> hello
[19:12] <clarion_admin> Can someone please tell me how to lock the widgets and or desktop on my guest account so that no one can move them. I need it to be password protected or some kind of sudo command.
[19:12] <abuusaamah_> how do i find a list of channels
[19:14] <abuusaamah_> anybody?
[19:14] <unheeding> what client?
[19:14] <BluesKaj>  /list in the server text
[19:15] <abuusaamah_> do i type this in a terminal
[19:15] <unheeding> abuusaamah_:  http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/list-channels.html
[19:15] <abuusaamah_> sorry first day noob
[19:16] <BluesKaj> abuusaamah_: open the server page , type /list in the textbox
[19:17] <abuusaamah_> ok
[19:17] <unheeding> choose Windows -> Channel list
[19:21] <ahoneybun> hey people
[19:23] <apparle> ahoneybun: hi
[19:23] <ahoneybun> apparle: whats up?
[19:24] <apparle> ahoneybun: this is not exactly a general chatting forum, so we will have to stick to kubuntu. But, I'm good
[19:25] <ahoneybun> apparle: I know, just maybe general talk will get people feel comfortable to talk about computer issues with kubuntu
[19:25] <apparle> clementine is not honoring global keyboard shortcuts, is there any setting to be done
[19:26] <apparle> and are there any VPN gurus here, I need some help setting up my corporate VPN.
[19:28] <ahoneybun> apparle: not sure about neither, sorry
[19:31] <andrewx> WHATS the best advice for installing 'mplayer' in Kubuntu 10.x LTS?
[19:31] <apparle> !karmic
[19:32] <bbeck_> Does anyone know if KDE Telepathy will be updated from 0.4 to 0.5 through backports?
[19:32] <apparle> !lucid
[19:32] <apparle> bbeck_: you've better off checking in #kubuntu-dev
[19:32] <bbeck_> apparle: thanks
[19:33] <apparle> andrewx: any particular reason why you are not installing mplayer from repositories
[19:33] <apparle> ?
[19:33] <ahoneybun> bbeck_: I have 0.4 with backports
[19:34] <ahoneybun> says telepathy ui 0.4
[19:34] <bbeck_> ahoneybun: Yeah that's what I've got too, but .5 came out recently and I was wondering if I should wait for it to come down through backports, or install it myself.
[19:35] <ahoneybun> bbeck_: might come down at one point, I'm not sure
[19:35] <andrewx> It requires deps it said it wouldn't install...
[19:35] <andrewx> do I have to edit apt files first?
[19:35] <apparle> andrewx: can you pastebin the output of apt
[19:37] <apparle> bbeck_: ahoneybun: How good is telepathy?
[19:38] <apparle> I've been using Kopete for quite sometime now, and I think it is pretty complete as such
[19:38] <bbeck_> apparle: I think for the most part it is very good.  Still not as polished as Kopete, but certainly getting there.
[19:38] <ahoneybun> apparle: its decent replacement for kopete, but it does need work, its nice to have a framework for networking
[19:39] <apparle> bbeck_: what would be the major plus for it according to you, and what are the major features missing in it?
[19:39] <apparle> ahoneybun: ^
[19:39] <apparle> of course compared to kopete
[19:39] <ahoneybun> apparle: am I right?
[19:40] <apparle> ahoneybun: actually I don't know, I've not tried telepathy yet
[19:40] <ahoneybun> apparle: it has a widget for the desktop that acts like the messager in GNOME Shell 3.4
[19:40] <ahoneybun> apparle: its good to have a framework though
[19:40] <bbeck_> bbeck_: The biggest plus is the integration with the desktop, there are plenty of plasmoids that make chatting very nice.  Also the log viewer is nicer.  The only real negative I have is a bug that has been fixed in .5 regrarding AIM accounts.
[19:41] <ahoneybun> bbeck_: guess thats why you want .05
[19:41] <apparle> ahoneybun: haven't given gnome a try. Yeah, the framework would be quite good to have
[19:41] <bbeck_> lol, yup
[19:41] <apparle> bbeck_: did you check with kubuntu-dev
[19:41] <apparle> what did they say
[19:42] <bbeck_> lol, actually I opened the channel, but I don't see anyone there.
[19:43] <apparle> bbeck_: sorry it's #kubuntu-devel
[19:44] <ahoneybun> bbeck_: I would love desktop integation like GNOME Shell has
[19:48] <wcbsal> does anyone know a good remote desktop client, I've tried vnc, very confusing
[19:49] <TheLordOfTime> wcbsal:  "client" or "server"?
[19:49] <TheLordOfTime> for clarification :)
[19:49] <wcbsal> I use crossloop for windows, but want one for ubuntu that will work on a windows box
[19:49] <wcbsal> uhh i can download and use
[19:50] <wcbsal> so maybe ......client not sure if i got my terms right
[19:52] <ahoneybun> client is the control and server is the master
[19:53] <wcbsal> ok well I want to use my linux box to access my windows when Im at work, so would I need both?
[19:53] <wcbsal> must I dl program on BOTH machines like crossloop?
[19:53] <ahoneybun> wcbsal: could use logmein, web-based so no OS conflict
[19:54] <wcbsal> yes but limited offer and used it already
[19:54] <ahoneybun> wcbsal: did not know if you did
[19:54] <wcbsal> like 2 years ago
[19:54] <wcbsal> it worked good, but they want u 2 buy as usual
[19:55] <ahoneybun> wcbsal: yea
[19:55] <ahoneybun> wcbsal: I do not know of a piece of software to use
[19:55] <wcbsal> i tried using remote desk top (RDP) but nver wrked
[19:56] <wcbsal> looked in sftware cntr but nothing that was actually good
[19:57] <Daskreech> bbeck_: Akonadi?
[19:58] <bbeck_> Daskreech: ?
[19:58] <Daskreech> bbeck_: 350 GB xsession file
[19:58] <bbeck_> Daskreech: yeah it seemed like it was mostly Akonadi messages.
[19:59] <Daskreech> bbeck_: yeah It's a mishmash of akonadi and nepomuk talking to each other. What version of kmail/akonadi do you have?
[19:59] <Daskreech> Far as I know that was patched for KDE 4.9
[19:59] <bbeck_> I have Kmail 4.9.
[20:00] <Daskreech> Lynoure: Updated the kernel?
[21:34] <stiltzkin> Hey I have a quick question for you guys. I'm following this VNC over SSH tutorial, and I apparently need to set up a session manager. My question is, can I substitute kdm for "gnome-session" or do I need some other package? Thanks! http://blog.cheapvps.co.uk/index.php/2011/03/29/how-to-setup-vnc-over-ssh-on-ubuntu-server/
[21:53] <Lynoure> Daskreech: seems forcing the reinstall for the binary only display drivers helped
[22:46] <Epicsalad> Houdy, could anyone be so kind to give me a little tech support? documentation/forums has been a no go.
[22:47] <SIR_Taco> Epicsalad: if you prop a steel post under your tech... it should support it pretty well
[22:49] <SIR_Taco> Epicsalad: what's your question?
[22:50] <Epicsalad> three issues
[22:50] <Epicsalad> first off I get a black screen after login
[22:51] <Epicsalad> second and third my trackpad and wlan stopped working randomly with no change.
[22:52] <SIR_Taco> Epicsalad: for #1: you mean after loging into KDE? No selecting from the boot menu? # 2 and 3 it's a laptop I would assume? which one? and you didn't do an upgrade inbetween?
[22:54] <Epicsalad> it was a fresh install worked for a few hours and a few reboots. The screen goes black when I try to log into the desktop enviroment. and the laptop is a toshiba satelite.
[22:56] <Epicsalad> synaptiks is causeing the trackpad issue I think but that is the least of my worries as now it just plain dosen't work.
[22:57] <SIR_Taco> Epicsalad: can you log into 'recovery' mode?
[22:58] <Epicsalad> trying
[22:58] <Epicsalad> yes I can
[22:59] <skreech_> Epicsalad: do you ahve a mouse when you login?
[22:59] <Epicsalad> yes
[23:00] <Epicsalad> AND the trackpad works
[23:00] <Epicsalad> but it didn't before the black screen started
[23:01] <SIR_Taco> Epicsalad: are you in KDE? or on the command line?
[23:02] <Epicsalad> I can log into the command line the black screen happens when I log into KDE
[23:05] <SIR_Taco> Epicsalad: what if you type "grep 'Synaptics TouchPad' /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[23:06] <SIR_Taco> Epicsalad: also... do you know what video card you have on the laptop?
[23:06] <Epicsalad> I did but I forget let me look it up
[23:07] <Epicsalad> ok I got the log
[23:08] <SIR_Taco> Epicsalad: are there errors?
[23:08] <Epicsalad> dosen't look like it no.
[23:09] <SIR_Taco> hwo about "grep 'EE' /var/log/Xorg.0.log" ?
[23:12] <Epicsalad> yes
[23:12] <Epicsalad> xmm failed to open cmmqs connection
[23:12] <Epicsalad> firegl_setsuspendresumestate FAILED -9
[23:13] <SIR_Taco> Epicsalad: are you on Kubuntu/Ubuntu 11.04?
[23:13] <Epicsalad> yes
[23:15] <Epicsalad> thanks for the help guys I am just going to scrap it and go back to good ol debian
[23:15] <Epicsalad> thanks for the help!
[23:15] <SIR_Taco> Patience is no longer a virtue I guess
[23:18] <SIR_Taco> for anyone interested... this seems to be the fix for Epicsalad's problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1761593.html
[23:19] <SIR_Taco> or just updating/installing the latest version of Kubuntu...